Will the Harry Potter series on HBO Max be any good?
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There’s a very slight chance it will be if you can look past a few diversity swaps or inclusions. The sort of people who would destroy a male franchise that they don’t know anything about are the type who are genuinely passionate about this one. The casting of the main trio feels like the make or break for me
>a few diversity swaps or inclusions
>a few
Hermione will be black, and so will over half of the students and teachers at Hogwarts.
But I agree with you for the most part, I can cope with diversity swaps as long as the original trio remains the same. However, that’s very unlikely. Besides the already minuscule chances of a show having three white leads in current year, Hermione was already race swapped in the West End/Broadway play. People made a stink and Rowling defended it. It wasn’t even just once, they always cast a black actress to play her and it’s been going on for a few years.
As soon as someone suggests a black Hermoine, it’s going to happen because there’s nothing you could say to argue. I’m still leaning towards “the last of us” style casting, where she’s white but unusual looking.
That is not how this works anon. You give activists a foot and they will turn around and demand nothing less then a mile. There is zero chance the Hermione in this series is going to be anything other then the darkest skinned girl they can find. They will import her direct from Ghana if they have to.
I also just thought of this: how are they going to handle goblins and house elves? Ever since Rowling went TERF and nobody gave a shit, trannies have been on a mission to get her and Harry Potter cancelled by trying to convince people goblins and house elves are antisemitic and racist stereotypes.
Good question. I don’t really know, they might have to just roll with it but be careful about the slavery and israelite stuff
>Herminone is 100% going to be black
>Ron will still be a white guy, but will only be used for comedy relief and portrayed as utterly incompetent
>Harry will be a trans lesbian
>Voldemort will be orange
>>Ron will still be a white guy, but will only be used for comedy relief and portrayed as utterly incompetent
The movies already did this to be honest. I liked Ron in the books, I don't know why anyone would like movie Ron as a character.
While I agree that the movies already basically ruined Ron by shifting so much of his character over to Hermione. At the very least Harry was still allowed to remain a basically competent, white male character. Ron is going to stick out all the more in this new series due to him being the only white male lead.
I am 100% expecting at-least one scene of death eaters chanting something to the effect of "MAKE THE MAGICAL WORLD GREAT AGAIN"
>"MAKE THE MAGICAL WORLD GREAT AGAIN"
MAKE AZKABAN GREAT AGAIN
>AZKABAN
the prison?
yes. all Muggles must be rounded up and put in cag-I mean Azkaban.
Even in the books Ron becomes completely useless after book 3. He becomes a complete moron after that who always has the wrong opinion and needs to be saved and / or set straight by his pals and once in a while serves as exposition for world building when Rowling couldn’t reasonably get Hermione to do it.
Hermione becomes an infallible Deus ex machina girlboss by book 4 who’s never wrong and makes both Harry and Ron constantly look like morons. The only victories Harry gets are when he’s forced to act on his own and Mr. Magoos his way to a lucky victory.
>book 4 who’s never wrong
What about SPEW? Everyone laughed at her for that stupid shit.
Even the house elves hated her for it.
SPEW was a weird one admittedly but I do think we’re supposed to side with Hermione in that the house elves are basically indentured slaves, even if they claim they’re happy. There are several other allusions to the wizarding world being massively xenophobic towards sentient beings, not least muggles who even the most liberal wizards wants to keep them in complete ignorance of their world, despite the innumerable benefits they could bring.
will be orange
Kek.
You think death eaters will wear red cloaks?
Rowling is literally the one making all the decisions
>Rowling is literally the one making all the decisions
thats not what that says at ALL anon. She is one of many producers and she does not have creative control otherwise she would have stated that.
We can only wait and see. I'm willing to bet my left nut she is not gonna just hand over her IP to some committee to mishandle. She had enough authority to turn down Spielberg for chrissakes
have you not seen the last couple movies? She doesn't care about her IP anymore, she is rich as frick and is more like Lucas in her old age. Her IP should be protected from her own meddling.
She's rich as frick which is exactly why she isn't gonna bend over to some executives. If they try to take her creative freedom away she's gonna just back out. She doesn't need the money.
I doubt it. In the current climate of blackwashing every second character they will apply it to one of the main trio. And if past evidence is any indicator it's likely to be Hermione.
Also, they will inevitably inject current year politics into it in the most hamfisted way possible.
No, but it will run for two seasons and then get removed from the platform for the sake of a tax write-off.
>Will the Harry Potter series on HBO Max be any good?
The writers' strike is over, so no.
only if its animated in a decent, unique artstyle
If they genderswap Malfoy they can Black personfy the rest of the cast, i don't care
personally i would prefer a rich snooty pureblood princess Malfoy getting railed by tall mudblood genderbent Hermione
It feels pointless. The movies weren't perfect, but I really doubt they're gonna improve on them
What I think the people in charge of this series don't understand is how much of a cultural phenomenon specifically *waiting* for each Harry Potter book/film to come out was. I knew people who would go to bookstores at midnight to get the books when they came out. The final movie in its own right was such a big deal that they split it into two movies, a trend that was followed by like every blockbuster sequel from that point onwards for a year or two. I don't really see how you can ever recapture that, let alone with a series that is the third iteration of the same story with little changes.
Definitely, people waiting outside of barnes and nobles for special midnight releases of a BOOK will never happen again.
Also, this show could've been cool if it was a prequel about the mauraders and Tom Riddle. A redo of the books/movies seems unnecessary, even for diehard fans
The point (besides making money) is that a series, with an entire season dedicated to each book, allows them to be more faithful to the books. They don’t have to cut or change a bunch of material to make each book fit into a two and a half hour movie. But they’re probably going to race swap the characters and change or even remove problematic elements (such as goblins and house elves), so it’s kind of moot and you’re ultimately right.
I understand why it could theoretically work, I just highly doubt it will. And while the movies suffered from compression and inconsistent tone, the casting was iconic and the music was perfect and the set design of Hogwarts was pretty spot-on. I think they got enough right in "bringing the books to life" that a 2020s underlit muted-color-palette digital slopfest is gonna pale in comparison
And not to get political but I am almost 100% certain they're gonna shoehorn in a LOT of stuff about trannies to deliberately spite Rowling and distance themselves
Honestly just binge the audiobooks, they're kino
>they're gonna shoehorn in a LOT of stuff about trannies to deliberately spite Rowling
They cannot do that, Rowling is in charge of the estate.
I'd be shocked if they don't find a way
She has zero creative control (including veto power) over this new series. They learnt their lesson after she had control over the series of bombs that were the fantastic beast movies.
So yes, there will be a ton of troonys in this new series. And asking why they don't just use magic to change their sex or even look more like real women makes you an evil bigot.
>She has zero creative control (including veto power) over this new series.
source?
>why they don't just use magic to change their sex
Human transfiguration is rather complicated and is above what most people coulddo.
>magic potion that can regrow bones
>but growing a pp or vegana is difficult
STFU troon
It is not something that 'most people' would need to be able to do. Even if there was just one person who could cast such a spell in all of the UK, there would no longer be any magical troonys. Despite this, there is basically zero doubt that the new series is going to be full of them and there will never any discussion about actually changing their gender for real because that of all things is consider bigoted. Same reason why you can no longer talk about curing disabilities people have without being called a bigot.
You would need to set it at Hogwarts. But I think there is plenty of potential for fun Hogwarts adventures set in the 80s.
>, with an entire season dedicated to each book, allows them to be more faithful to the books
WoT fan here, I have some bad news for you anon.
That’s the theoretical point, I acknowledged they’re still going to change a bunch of stuff
The movies can absolutely be improved on. If you haven't read the books you miss out on the everyday life at Hogwarts, which was a huge part of the appeal of the series. And then there's the fact that each book basically qualifies as a mystery whodunnit because JK scatters clues in the background consistently. Kids can figure out that Ginny is the suspect in the second book even before Harry does. Same with the third book where Scabbers acts increasingly suspicious til the end.
Even the books can be tightened up, assuming they have competent writers. The time travel issues could be reworked into something more logical, as well as why Fred and George don’t care about why Ron sleeps with a dude named Peter Pettigrew by his side every night.
They could also get a little more creative and introduce Dumbledore’s darker side a little bit earlier so that they don’t treat him like wizard Jesus for the first six books and then lore dump everything about him and Grindelwald in the last one, and tighten up Snape’s back story so he actually comes out looking like a tragic hero at the end like intended instead of just a creepy simp who abuses a child because he hated his dad and dies not for any sort of remorse for his past actions or belief in a cause, but because he never stopped wanting to frick his mother.
The only way to improve them is to include gay sex scenes
considering the books and movies are bad, i'd say no
Its gonna be so pozzed and homosexual
Did the Fantastic Beasts movies scare them from doing anything new or original in the Harry Potter world? There could be some potential, but I'm exhausted just thinking about a full on reboot already.
>There could be some potential
There is, but the problem is too many cooks in the kitchen. As far as I remember, Rowling gets creative veto over anything and specifically for the Fantastic Beasts movies the execs were schyzophrenic over what they wanted. Rowling made a nice premise, but she's very inconsistent and shit with her lore. Any attempt to properly write a HP world will need extensive retcons.
Problem is, every major event from the early 20th century to modern times has already been covered so unless you go even more into the future to like Harry’s grandchildren, you risk getting too far from Harry Potter’s gimmick of old fashioned wizards living in the modern world.
I want it to be good but probably not. When's the last highly promoted show to deliver? Anymore it's the under the radar ones that land more often. The bigger the marketing budget the more it's pozzed.
I think it's an absolutely wild move. The franchise is perfect for a star wars style universe where you can explore it's lore through different mediums covering multiple eras and locations.
It's clear that's what they wanted to do, but have absolutely zero confidence in the brand and even though they experimented with a new trilogy and video game, everything was forced to be tied back to Hogwarts.
To do a reboot now while the ball has barely started rolling feels like they have given up completely. It's like if Disney decided to remake the first six star wars films after the ST flopped. Zero confidence in their own ideas or product.
>The franchise is perfect for a star wars style universe where you can explore it's lore through different mediums covering multiple eras and locations
I don’t really agree to be honest. I think what made people fall in love with the original books and movies is (1) the thought of learning you’re secretly a wizard and being whisked away to a cozy magic boarding school in a grand castle (2) the original characters and their friendship. Rowling herself said this is the reason she believes Harry Potter became so popular in an old interview. The lore was never anything particularly special.
The world really starts to fall apart once it gets outside of the British boarding school + magic scope.
If there is anything that the Harry Potter game from the start of the year demonstrated. The further you get away from Hogwarts proper, the worse everything gets. I mean, just look at the disaster of the Fantastic Beasts movies or the last few mainline books/movies for other examples of this. The truth is that the HP series is extremely shallow and just not equipped for anything beyond mysteries in and around Hogwarts.
The Fantastic Beasts movies could have just focused on you know, fantastic beasts. Just go copy some old european mythos/folklores. The scots and irish have plenty of cool critters. Easy monster movies crowd pleaser. You can even lean in on more horror based types with shit like Nuckelavee.
Nobody would have watched that
It'll just be like the early seasons of Supernatural and other kinds of monster of the week TV series.
Monster of the week shows have been out of style for over a decade. They were a 90s and 2000s fad. Supernatural itself morphed into a more storyline-based show, as did every other former monster of the week shows that made it into the 2010s.
Yes, but people aren’t going to watch an entire series of movies based on that premise. A big part of why the first movie was successful was just because it was the first taste of new content from one of the most popular and beloved franchises of all time since it had ended years prior. The plot of the first movie could have been about literally anything and it would still have been successful, that doesn’t mean people would tune in for an entire series of movies based on it.
>Monster of the week shows have been out of style for over a decade.
That shit is still popular in anime/manga. And face it, a lot of HP fans are into anime/manga as well.
Wasn't that basically the first one?
Pretty much. Rowling does well when writing about the character's interactions within the given setting, But when the series tries to go bigger scope, it starts to fall apart. And then there's all the nonsense 'trivia' she spouts like the wizarding world not having plumbing for ages.
I remember about 3 to 4 months ago maybe 6 months ago I made a comment saying they're going to remake Harry Potter and Harry Potter's going to either be a female or is going to be black it's the moment of truth bet you 20 bucks they're going to race swap him or gender swap
my money's on a race swap.
It’s just a “rumor” from a cosmopolitan article, but maybe they’re testing the waters
It'll just be "Remember Hedwig? Remember stairs? Remember British accents?" interspaced with the occasional "We're SO sorry that we're giving money to JK Rowling, have a trans character on us!"
moron
if you like blacks sure
test
This will most likely be the next Hermione
>mixed race to satisfy the twitter crowd, but still white enough somehow
>fizzy hair (like the description in the books)
She's established herself a niche as the "mixed race daughter" in recent movies like 65 and Dungeons and Dragons, so studios would be aware of her