Will they still be fricking each other after Krakoa ends? Did this three-way actually amount to anything? Do we know who got to frick who in the ass, Scott or Logan? Or did they swap? Or did Jean rail them both with TK dildos?
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They haven't fricked each other in years. Since the first Hellfire Gala. Scott and Jean moved from the Summers House on the moon to the treehouse in NYC and stopped living in sin. That's why Percy wrote the hot tub scene into X-Force. He wanted Wolverine to finally frick Jean on panel while he had the chance.
Anon muties are always living in sin. Krakoa is literally godless, they forbade all human religions remember?
No they didn't and I bet you can't find a page and panel saying this
They had a practicing Catholic on thier ruling council, dingus
>practicing
The weak-kneed b***hboy that drove himself to drink when he realized how degenerate everybody was, then made his own mutant-centric religion that was some knockoff feelgood hippie BS?
>Krakoa is literally godless, they forbade all human religions remember?
Do these left wing writers realize what hate filled communists their utopian mutant society makes them seem like?
Did they imply that maybe the mind controlling island was evil and the X-men turned into villains?
Genuinely asking. I hadn't read Marvel in years when this story came out and it sounded like the kind of "woke" fanwank right wing fans complain about. Was it actually that bad or was it hyperbole by right wing critics?
>Was it actually that bad
It had the X-Men team up unconditionally with genocidal mass murderers, create an arena where they literally beat each other to death for credit (because they have infinite repsawns on krakoa), a cult based around mushroom mutant drugs which they also exported extorted other countries by holding a cancer cure over them, brainwashed human diplomats, allowed one human country to be genocided to contain a particular threat, engage in constant orgies resulting in thousands of unwanted babies (which will never be referenced again because jesus christ) and also Hope allowed a large number of human civilians to die so that the humans would know what it feels like for once.
To make a few examples. You be the judge!
They in fact never even implied that the three of them fricked in an issue, it only was "confirmed" in an interview with Hickman. Yes I know it's his author's intent and all that but it's ridiculously easy to handwave away.
They have conjoined rooms. That's all the implication people need.
>not giving Cable and Rachel conjoined rooms
Cowards
Pretty sure Ewing made Nova Star-Lord and Gamora's love triangle gayer and he didn't have to say they had a threesome.
Based on sliding timeline laws all the Hellfire Galas probably happened in the span of a year. Makes it even more embarrassing how the X-Men have lost everything and have to go groveling back to the rest of Earth.
It used to be that 3-4 years made one Marvel year but that hasn't been true in a while. Even with this restrictive count the Hellfire Galas would all be within one year though. Which means some of the big Krakoa events take place within a few months. Which means this really was less of a new era and more like a really fricking wild holiday.
Pretty sure Hellfire Galas were explicitly annual.
Doesn't work with Marvel time. It hasn't been five years since Krakoa started in-universe.
Pretty much that. The X-men have been around for for roughly 15 years Marvel time. Imagine having a third or if we're generous a fourth of your whole existence being known as the ethnonationalists who let Apocalypse and Magneto represent them and make them look like egotistical morons in front of the WEF and yet acted upset people trusted them even less than before
Not to mention stuff like Hope going "we're going to let a bunch of humans die so they know what it's like for once".
I have a feeling that until Marvel finally gets cold feet and retcons this entire period from time, it'll be referenced every time someone brings up how the mutant hatred doesn't make sense, only to be completely obliterated with
>"Remember the time the X-men made their own ethnoationalist state and put an ex-nazi in charge without expecting it to frick over everyone?"
The fandom will never let them forget at least. But they are trying real hard to just brush it off in-universe.
>Noooo our precious cinnamon buns were just defending themselves! man is the real monster!
Krakoa barely lasting a year in universe would be hilarious, the Fordlandia of the marvel universe
It was an MFM deal
Scott and Logan didn't do anything with each other. All the focus was on Jean.
post the full picture, coward
mmmm Jean sure had it good I hope she got the DP treatment from them
Nope, there was that speedo "joke" that implied Scott and Logan made contact
Penises went into anuses for sure. I think Krakoa pretty much had everyone frick everyone
They even popping babies like crazy is a miracle there's no Omega mugga AIDS
I wonder how may miscegenation children are out there now
i swear some of you slash homosexual autists don't understand jokes. it was just a joke
did logan frick jean? yes? did they do it together with scott? no
That's the way I see it too
Wrong. Jean makes them kiss for her gay fetish
>Love triangle resolved by everyone fricking
This is trash tier fanfiction writing
That's X-Men!
Isn't Kurt like a christian priest or something? How was he okay with the whole polyamory and polygamy thing on Krakoa?
they raped his characterization to fit with them
I think that he spent little time in Krakoa also
Kurt was so fricking destroyed by writers during Krakoa. Like man I like Spurrier but he treated Kurt like absolute garbage.
Ever since his hellblazer got canned before a second trade at DC he’s become a complete and utter c**t. Full on baiting le chuds shitpost writing.
I don’t understand why people tank their reputation and careers like this.
Spurrier's Krakoa titles were fantastic. You're just a c**t.
Nta but they really weren’t. I like the guy but his output this last few years has been pretty poor.
>Isn't Kurt like a christian priest or something? How was he okay with the whole polyamory and polygamy thing on Krakoa?
Hilariously he is a devout Catholic. It was even shown in the latest X-Men 97 episode.
And guess what? The Catholic church have full condemned human cloning as heresy. Not even recently but years ago. And now Kurt is living in a clone body and going around a place that routinely clones people.
But of course Hickman didn't know this and nobody else did either. Or they didn't care and just dumped his character to make the plot work.
Is the Catholic Church of 616 a carbon copy of the Catholic Church of 1218?
That's always an excuse. Maybe the 616 version is also open to polygamy...
real life technology doesn't put people's consciousness in clones, it seems silly to pretend like Pope Francis and Earth 616 Pope would have the same opinions on fantasy/sci-fi scenarios
also about 40% of Catholics voted for Biden and there isn't a single homophobic Marvel superhero, not even Frank Castle hates gays
every Marvel hero is basically a moderate democrat and you're just gonna have to deal with that
>real life technology doesn't put people's consciousness in clones,
Would you believe the Catholic church has established a policy on this too? Because they have. It blew my mind. That's not even something you can do, and they still made a call on it.
What's the policy?
This is the same institution that thinks a clump of cells is the same as fully formed human being of course they have opinions of entirely theoretically beings
Even allowing the concept of it can lead to bad shit.
Don't act stupid anon.
I wonder if the pope would respond to a letter asking what the church’s view would be if x y and z were true, like if you worded it as wanted to display the faith accurately
wow guys we really should be taking moral advice from an institution that shielded pedo priests from responsibility for crimes against children and sided with the nazis
nightcrawler has no morality other than what the writers use. nightcrawler was originally going to confront cyclops about uncanny x-force, but conveniently died and that never happened. then in uncanny x-men 600 nightcrawler doesn't give a shit about glowie shit, he just pulls the line and everyone makes beast persona non grata for being desegregationist. then fascist ethnostate happens because that's the logical conclusion of rightclops and magneto, and when it was all falling apart nightcrawler gives rightclops a hug because he can do no wrong ever
i wouldn't say that. INITIALLY, nightcrawler didn't like what was going on. then it was normalized
nah, he has been sidelined multiple times before in favor of propping up rightclops
the catholic characterization sucks. he should be a flirty lecherous pirate with a golden heart
>and when it was all falling apart nightcrawler gives rightclops a hug because he can do no wrong ever
Poor Kurt he gets fricked over so hard.
Sincerely, the first time I saw those 2 together in a cartoon, I thought they were father and son
t. normie
>he should be a flirty lecherous pirate with a golden heart
Not really sure how this is incompatible with him being a Catholic.
logan and jean ship never sit right with me
I think its just jean is just too plain
I feel like Logan deserves better
>logan and jean ship never sit right with me
I think that's the point.
Logan should be swimming in hotties. What kind of hold does Jean have on him and why is he content to play second fiddle?
>Did this three-way actually amount to anything?
It amounted in a loss of sales like all of the degenerate hedonistic trash they tossed in.
Don't you have a franchise to ruin, Brevoort? Go back to rubbing your flaccid wiener to 90s X-Men you fat hack
Brevoort isn’t fixing anything anon. Idk why you’re imagining I preferred his dumb ass take over. Krakoa wouldn’t have been so divisive if they didn’t write everyone so OOC and toss in a bunch of hedonistic garbage.
>t.person who didn't read Krakoa but looked at funny meme pictures
>Do we know who got to frick who in the ass, Scott or Logan?
Logan is emotionally a woman. He liked to lay on his back and have Scott make love to him.
Wolverine gets distraught when Scott is just lost and doesn't even know why he's in a relationship with either of them, he's just so cold and jaded.
>Scott, why don't you make love to me like you used to?
>Why don't you ever kiss me passionately anymore?
>I'm just a piece of ass to you just like the rest of them aren't I?
>Jeanie, does it feel like Scott has been distant lately?
>Can you read his mind and tell me what he's thinking just this once for me?
imagine wanting to frick logan
he must smell like sweat and shit all the time
He bathes. Didn't Jean frick him in the bath tub their first time?
Hot tub IIRC
>imagine wanting to frick logan
>he must smell like sweat and shit all the time
I was thinking sweat and beer.
Some men are into that
Ew. Krakoa was so fricking gay
I think every time they made a new clone of somebody on Krakoa they removed a little bit of the inhibitions of the original to make them more pliable to follow Krakoa's insane ideals and also frick anything. Maybe it was a natural side effect of the constant copy paste or intentional on Xavier's part (probably that). But that's my theory on why everybody went so OOC
We need to stop doing this. The writing sucked. There is no reason to concoct a wild “theory” to defend hacks like Hickman, spurrier, gillen, Duggan, ect.
or in the case of wolverine, murdered his own clone without trying to rehabilitate it despite he himself has been show mercy in the past, even as a savage animal. that was percy writing
Hilarious how some writers like Ewing go "N-no it's not replacement cloning at all!" and then like half the writers do stuff like this. No coordination.
thanks for reminding me why I hate the x-stein island and this kumbaia bullshit
Imagine being a shipgay
What I saw in the comics was:
Scott with Jean
Logan with Jean
Some verbal flirting between Logan and Scott
Some dom/sub verbal flirting between Emma and Scott
Did I miss something?
The writer of Wolverine's ongoing book basically hardcore retconned that there was never any threesome shit going on with Scott/Jean/Logan after Hickman implied via the floor plans of Scott's moonbase house that they were in a throuple and the writer of X-Force had Jean make out with Wolverine in a hot tub. Going so far as to say Logan rarely if ever even used his bedroom in Casa Day Summers and only slept there when Jean and Scott weren't around.
Also, Jean's going into outer space for her new ongoing so I have to think they are going to split Jean and Scott up for From the Ashes. Probably even possibly have Scott and Maddie hook back up since Brevoort is a homosexual who thinks X-Men died the second Jean came back to life.
Absolutely no way they're putting Scott with Maddie but Jean is fricking off to do cosmic shit yes.
Scott unironically does not deserve Maddie at this point after all the shit he's done to her. Unironically rather see her hook up with almost anyone else.
All things considered if there's anyone who's likely to maybe get pried away from the X-Men I feel like it's her. Writers already hate juggling the Logan/Jean/Scott/Emma clusterfrick fighting for their OTP. They've already tentatively moved Emma out of the picture and "Frick this and frick you go away and leave me alone" was the first thing any of them have ever actually wanted to do anything with Maddie, so honestly if they decided to shunt her off into another book to go back to the Jean/Logan/Scott triangle and try to alleviate the "mutants only show up in X-books" problem I'd be at least a little open to it.
Frick it. Have her and Peter bond over their fricked romantic lives and hatred of evil geneticists. Peter gets somebody who can protect herself but is liable to largely go full home maker and be super understanding,Addie gets a boys out who won't ditch her in the middle of nowhere to go frick his highschool sweetheart since Spider-Gwen means Stacy is never coming back and Jackal trauma/memes mean Peter would never go for it anyway
Maddie has literally appeared in more Spider-Man comics than mutant comics after Inferno which is wild to me. Not big roles but still.
makes sense, she is a goblin afterall
And because of that they had to rename Ashley Kafka into "Queen Goblin". So they have Queen Goblin and Goblin Queen
>Scott and Maddie
Lmao imagine if this happened, if it does I hope Alex goes and teams up with Chasm
Alex and Lorna then get back together then idiot.
>I have to think they are going to split Jean and Scott up for From the Ashes
They realeased a statement about that, apparently they're going to have psychic phone calls and treat it like Jean is a soldier on deployment.
>The writer of Wolverine's ongoing book basically hardcore retconned that there was never any threesome shit going on with Scott/Jean/Logan after Hickman implied via the floor plans of Scott's moonbase house that they were in a throuple and the writer of X-Force had Jean make out with Wolverine in a hot tub. Going so far as to say Logan rarely if ever even used his bedroom in Casa Day Summers and only slept there when Jean and Scott weren't around.
The fricking damage control there is unreal.
>Hickman: They're all fricking, isn't it beautiful?
>Everyone else: NO
It's funny how much of Krakoa was just readers and writers wanting to vibe out and not actually have to deal with the consequences of characters doing weird shit
>It's funny how much of Krakoa was just readers and writers wanting to vibe out and not actually have to deal with the consequences of characters doing weird shit
I still suspect there was an editorial mandate to just shuffle all the questionable stuff under the rug because all of a sudden all those storylines showing Krakoa as a dark place vanished
>Readers
Oh Child.
>The fricking damage control there is unreal.
I don't think they're going to be able to put this genie back in the bottle. You can't tease that two of the most important male characters in X-Men are lovers and then say "nothing to see here, move on", the people complaining about it, the people making fun of it, and the people who'd actually want it are all never going to let it go.
I haven't seen many people even talk about it outside of some jokes.
I suppose one of the Hellfire Galas had Xavier and Magneto dressed like they were a couple and people made themselves forget that pretty quickly.
I mean Brevoort is a dumbass but broken clocks and all, it's long established fact that Jean being brought back is point zero for the entire industry being irrevocably fricked beyond repair, not just the X-Men. Literally fricking everything wrong in modern comics traces back to either the conception of X-Factor or the British Invasion.
Jean and Death of Superman making "death" into a spectacle. And Crisis for creating line-wide events. Ironically Secret Wars was not the model that Marvel would follow
>Jean and Death of Superman making "death" into a spectacle.
People fixate on the returns because the fandom is full of people who WANT the death stories as spectacles, and are pretending that it's only the returns and other events that are the problem.
There's a lot of factors to it but I was around at the time and I can confirm that Death & Return of Superman was something unique at the time. You had seen superheroes return to life before, but DC heavily advertising the death, making a huge deal out of the funeral (the fricking black armband polybagged comics) and then making an even bigger event out of his return was new. Previously characters just sort of returned in a single issue and it was like "Oh okay, they're back". Even Jean's return only lasted 2 issues. DC milked the shit out of Superman and that became the industry standard.
>-Men died the second Jean came back to life
He's not wrong.
Never be the bull of a bi couple.
Always ends badly.
Believe me
How many bulls have you and your wife had? What made it end badly for them? With your experience what's your take on the jean Logan Scott nonsense? Would you rather Logan or Scott frick your wife while you watched?
>Will they still be fricking each other after Krakoa ends?
It'd be hypocritical of Marvel to axe it considering Iceman is in a gay open-relationship.
Iceman being retconned into a homosexual has nothing to do with anything.
You don't understand. I'm saying it wouldn't be fair if they were denied a COMMITTED polyamourous relationship but Iceman gets to keep his OPEN poly relationship.
They're trying to stem the bloodflow of this death blow to the xmen okay.
This has to go.
Iceman can be an out and proud degenerate homosexual like is their natural habitat.
But the rest of them have to be normal.
>X-Men finally selling like mad
>deathblow
you homosexuals are so fricking delusional
Scott & Logan have ALWAYS been a thing and will continue to be.
They are just ditching Jean, that's all.
GAAAAAAAAAAYYY
This "ship" is unironic queerbaiting that people fell for hook, line, and sinker for some reason. It pisses me off, because the Krakoan era gave us a lot of real representation of queer relationships, but they get overshadowed by this crap that only exists in headcanons and fan-made smut.
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Scott got a raw deal tbh, it’s the usual “polyamory but for one partner only” cuck deal. Jean was taking the SWC (Small Wolverine wiener). Scott should have been able to bang Madelyne or Emma. Instead he’s just letting Wolverine frick his wife?
>Instead he’s just letting Wolverine frick his wife?
And himself.
This will never be true no matter how hard you delude yourself into believing it.
Did you think they were kidding when they proclaimed themselves superior homos? X-Men has been for gays for years now.
Still never understood why if they're so convinced that genetics are so important they haven't bowed down to their genetic superior, homosexual Supreme, yet
yeah, cyclops was clearly the one who railed logan
Okay cards on the table how much incest was there on krakoa? They're too fricking pussy to admit it officially but come on, they were into deep degeneracy already. Did any of the Summers clan frick each other? Did Magneto rail Polaris? what are the hottest pairings, asking for a friend
I can believe this happened for real on Krakoa and the baby got dumped in the prostitutephanage.
And we all know this has happened.
Who among the Summers family have railed Rachel? Like I know she's with Betsy but there's a zero chance they didn't explore that redhead future pussy in a little "family bonding"
Wait, what? Is that the child of Nightcrawler and Mystique??
Logan is a thicc manlet so that means he automatically bottomed for Scott and Jean's black queen strapon
penis
Scott was better with Emma.. Jeans' such a prostitute and it's not even funny.
>implying Emma is not also a prostitute and drawn as one
She is but when she's with Scott it's good chemistry.
They brought out the absolute worst in each other, anon.
I do remember a prior time Marvel hired an edgelord militant leftie atheist and it was fricking awful.
I got one volume of Astonishing, is it good? should I read it?