The wizard of Lord of the Rings are different from the wizards of Dungeons and Dragons. LotR wizards don't use their powers to eviscerated large groups of enemies and are in Middle Earth more or less to provide counsel to the inhabitants of Middle Earth. DnD spellcasters on the other hand can be insanely OP. In Icewind Dale, I have like 2 or 3 spell casters and normally cast Grease to slow down the enemy, then spam fireball while everyone else uses projectile weapons. I don't really use magic missile that much. Don't know why it's popular amongst actual DnD fans.
Wtf? Why are you guys using these pics that say you are looking at me like I made some mistake?
i haven't played D&D but isn't magic missile a popular spell becuase it's been there since 1st edition, and the "guaranteed hit" effect?
I don't really know. All I know is that blasting things with Fireballs or Holy Smite is a good way to inflict a lot of damage on multiple enemies. This is the video game I'm talking about. That's why I said I have 2 or 3 spell casters: cleric, mage and sorceress. I also have a thief or rogue who happens to be a halfling with a LotR inspired name and he can turn invisible.
Because in proper D&D you can't rest after every battle to refresh your spells. Your spell count has to last the entire dungeon, making level 1 spells good for fodder.
The wizard of Lord of the Rings are different from the wizards of Dungeons and Dragons. LotR wizards don't use their powers to eviscerated large groups of enemies and are in Middle Earth more or less to provide counsel to the inhabitants of Middle Earth. DnD spellcasters on the other hand can be insanely OP. In Icewind Dale, I have like 2 or 3 spell casters and normally cast Grease to slow down the enemy, then spam fireball while everyone else uses projectile weapons. I don't really use magic missile that much. Don't know why it's popular amongst actual DnD fans.
Wizards have been able to use swords since 2nd ed dnd. Elminster is basically dnds Gandalf and uses a sword. All you need is either a 1 level dip in fighter, or play a race life elf, which is automatically proficient in longswords and longbows. In 3rd ed dnd, they officially stated out Elminster and he's got 2 levels of fighter, and like 28 levels in wizard. And lastly, Bladesinger is a prestige/subclass for wizards, which grants them proficiencies with rapiers and longswords. tldr there's a shitload of wars for wizards to use swords, and has been that way for literally decades.
There's literally no reason why a wizard couldn't pick up a small sword. Hell, he could even stab someone with it if he wanted. It's not like they're heavy. Something like a large two-handed axe would be pretty moronic to use, but a light sword is fine.
in the book orthanc is originally a white tower, and slowly turns black as the smoke from the surrounding industrialization smothers it. you dont see it as fully black until they defeat saruman and go to his tower to talk terms at the end of the two towers
In the books (The Hobbit and LotR) he did plenty of magic, including battling the will of Sauron of himself (and winning). In the movies, he only defeated a frickhuge demon (Balrog) and spooked wraiths on several occasions which is still magic.
Gandalf is a cleric thoughbeit, I assume the longsword is the favored weapon of his deity or he picked some domain that allows him to equip martial weapons.
Angels carry swords all the time. Why can't an elf angel carry one? Just because he pretends to be a wizened old human man to maintain an air of respectability? That's just silly.
Where are you going Gandalf? >I'm off to see Saruman
You're going to see Sauron's man? >No Saruman
Oh ok >Several weeks later
Gandalf, where have you been >This is pretty ironic... but get this...
>chases Balrog for DAYS through dozens of miles of tunnels and up miles of winding stairs to the top of the mountain with no sleep or food
Was Gandalf just sandbagging it whenever he pretended to be tired or hungry?
Blue wizards are never more than an aside and Radagast is in Fellowship, but I don't think he ever gets more than a passing reference after that. I don't think we know their ultimate fates.
Presumably they accomplished their goals and dipped back to Valinor
Those restrictions were to make sure players would use more than one type of character more than for historical accuracy. You have to have distinctions in a game like D and D to give it flavor/make it interesting. Lord of the Rings on the other hand is based off the novels and already has tons of flavor. Gandolph and Sauron both having used swords before, because they both have been in real war before, is not at all out of place in that world.
is there something to prevent them doing so?
agi or strength cap id guess
noooo an average size man can't pick up and swing a relatively lightweight bit of metal, because hh-h-he he just cant okay?
The wizard of Lord of the Rings are different from the wizards of Dungeons and Dragons. LotR wizards don't use their powers to eviscerated large groups of enemies and are in Middle Earth more or less to provide counsel to the inhabitants of Middle Earth. DnD spellcasters on the other hand can be insanely OP. In Icewind Dale, I have like 2 or 3 spell casters and normally cast Grease to slow down the enemy, then spam fireball while everyone else uses projectile weapons. I don't really use magic missile that much. Don't know why it's popular amongst actual DnD fans.
You are an embarrassment to yourself.
i haven't played D&D but isn't magic missile a popular spell becuase it's been there since 1st edition, and the "guaranteed hit" effect?
Yeah. Being able to guarantee a hit can come in pretty clutch.
Wtf? Why are you guys using these pics that say you are looking at me like I made some mistake?
I don't really know. All I know is that blasting things with Fireballs or Holy Smite is a good way to inflict a lot of damage on multiple enemies. This is the video game I'm talking about. That's why I said I have 2 or 3 spell casters: cleric, mage and sorceress. I also have a thief or rogue who happens to be a halfling with a LotR inspired name and he can turn invisible.
Because in proper D&D you can't rest after every battle to refresh your spells. Your spell count has to last the entire dungeon, making level 1 spells good for fodder.
Right, Gandalf was there to provide counsel but remember he deliberately nerfed his own power level
Wizards have been able to use swords since 2nd ed dnd. Elminster is basically dnds Gandalf and uses a sword. All you need is either a 1 level dip in fighter, or play a race life elf, which is automatically proficient in longswords and longbows. In 3rd ed dnd, they officially stated out Elminster and he's got 2 levels of fighter, and like 28 levels in wizard. And lastly, Bladesinger is a prestige/subclass for wizards, which grants them proficiencies with rapiers and longswords. tldr there's a shitload of wars for wizards to use swords, and has been that way for literally decades.
dungeons & dragons
That's quite normal, there are often caster swords that are just statsticks. If he were to use an axe I'd have a problem.
frick off, wizards should be relegated to staffs and rods and other useless shit
No.
Breaking the stereotypes of the motif is good sometimes, actually
No
There's literally no reason why a wizard couldn't pick up a small sword. Hell, he could even stab someone with it if he wanted. It's not like they're heavy. Something like a large two-handed axe would be pretty moronic to use, but a light sword is fine.
He fought off the balrog for days with it, though. He didn't just pick up a little bladr and cut someone
>sword for melee
>staff for ranged
I don't see the problem here. Play more video games you virgin.
Wiz build is an INT stack not STR moron
>sword comes with INT stack
bro?
if you've played even a basic level Roblox RPG you'd know swords with caster stats exist
Mana is hard to come by in the rugged world of Middle Earth.
>Sauronman
His name is Curumo
>character's name is Mairon
>changes to Sauron after becoming a villain
Who writes this shit?
the real name of satan is Satanael. El was removed when he rebeled against god
>it's supposed to be a twist that he's turned evil
>name is Sauronman
>played by actor known for only playing bad guys
His tower also looks like it came straight out of hell.
in the book orthanc is originally a white tower, and slowly turns black as the smoke from the surrounding industrialization smothers it. you dont see it as fully black until they defeat saruman and go to his tower to talk terms at the end of the two towers
No it is always a black tower grown out of black rock, the wall around Gondar is the same material
his name is saruman, speed-watcher
He was the Angel prestige class who wore a wizard skin for the aesthetic.
>Angel
Bibliography accurate Gandalf when?
if he was a wizard, why didn't he do any magihe just stands around shouting
In the books (The Hobbit and LotR) he did plenty of magic, including battling the will of Sauron of himself (and winning). In the movies, he only defeated a frickhuge demon (Balrog) and spooked wraiths on several occasions which is still magic.
He's not a wizard though, he's a higher immortal being, a demi-god.
then why did tolkien refer to him as a wizard in his novels
Nothing wrong with that as long as he's not an exceptional fighter and uses it more for buffs/some special magic ability.
>wizard class can conjure numerological sets of repeating diggies
what black magic is this
divine* magic
Holy frick!!
I have checked it
WIZARD.
blessed
share script
aw, so close
shame I dont have the script
there is no script
>he doesnt know
>off by one
time to commit sudoku anon
Nice.wav
Gandalf is a cleric thoughbeit, I assume the longsword is the favored weapon of his deity or he picked some domain that allows him to equip martial weapons.
>wielding a sword is hard
get fricked moron
The Hobbit was written 40 years before tabletop RPG autism
>character leads a gang of dwarfs
>called Gangdorf
Warrior Mage, it's a pretty standard build.
Angels carry swords all the time. Why can't an elf angel carry one? Just because he pretends to be a wizened old human man to maintain an air of respectability? That's just silly.
Where are you going Gandalf?
>I'm off to see Saruman
You're going to see Sauron's man?
>No Saruman
Oh ok
>Several weeks later
Gandalf, where have you been
>This is pretty ironic... but get this...
Took on a fricking Balrog with a small sword.
>chases Balrog for DAYS through dozens of miles of tunnels and up miles of winding stairs to the top of the mountain with no sleep or food
Was Gandalf just sandbagging it whenever he pretended to be tired or hungry?
When was he ever tired or hungry?
he just wanted to frick off and go smoke some pipe weed
What happened to Radaghast and the Blue Wizards in the end?
they were disgruntled at the additional taxes levied against wizards by the new gondorian government, so they emigrated to harad
Blue wizards are never more than an aside and Radagast is in Fellowship, but I don't think he ever gets more than a passing reference after that. I don't think we know their ultimate fates.
Presumably they accomplished their goals and dipped back to Valinor
>roleplayer can play a good RPG
Those restrictions were to make sure players would use more than one type of character more than for historical accuracy. You have to have distinctions in a game like D and D to give it flavor/make it interesting. Lord of the Rings on the other hand is based off the novels and already has tons of flavor. Gandolph and Sauron both having used swords before, because they both have been in real war before, is not at all out of place in that world.