>Wonder Woman has no good villains....
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>Wonder Woman has no good villains....
>Wonder Woman has no good villains....
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Paper-man has all the qualities of a great comeback villain
>Great and visually interesting powerset
>Good design
>Already has an interesting relationship with Wonder woman
>Can be both goofy and terrifying
has an interesting relationship with Wonder woman
Problem is that wonder woman doesn't have a secret identity anymore. Diana Prince hasn't been around for years
When was the last time he appeared anywhere?
I believe in a Batman brave and the bold comic
Would WW be able to see his face at this angle? Or just a thin white line?
He's curving his head, look at his neck. How thoughtful.
I can definitely see him being a hit among weird slightly fat autistic girls with the "I can fix him!" mentality.
He looks like the Spot
Somehow I never heard of this guy but I’m already intrigued by his style
Yes
is that an egg?
A Chinese egg
>what if krang.. but an egg!
Bravo house of ideas.
Egg Fu comes from 1965
So they couldn't get the rights to Fu Manchu, and made an egg instead?
>What if Fu Manchu but.. AN EGG!
even worse plus it's racist
>even better because its racist
FTFY
Egg fu >>>> Krang
>Bravo house of ideas.
Give DC some credit, after all, they gave us characters like The Fantastic Four and Daredevil.
The GOAT
Facts
I hope they got the Spot treatment a with good writer in some future Wonder Woman movie
>First and only appearance in Wonder Woman #205
>No Backstory, no name, no gimmick. Just a missile and a giant ransom
>Dies
>Never appeared, cameoed or referenced in any other material since
Dr. Motherfricking Domino
DC Editoral and Modern Feminsts seem to be great villains
Looks like a combination of the martians from mars attacks and the space kook
I think The Spot would be good examples for the Paperman with the whole nice guy syndrome with Wonder Woman
>Paperman becomes a greater threat by becoming the very pages the comic is printed on
>nice guy syndrome with Wonder Woman
Other way around, in his debut he hates Wonder Woman but is smitten with Diana
Does Diana even do the secret identity thing anymore?
>the "fight" with the spot is actually 80% exposition of some dumb literal who british rockstar spiderman who then immediately jobs after breaking the barrier like the guy from spy kids
is the entire movie like this?
Spot is pretty underused in the film imo.
He shows up in the beginning once you're past the lengthy Spider-Gwen prologue and fights Miles some, which is mostly shown in a breezy montage, and then he shows up for a little fight in the India world, and then that's it
its an egg...
It represents toxic fertility and how women must defeat their own eggs for freedom.
First Wonder Woman comic I bought
haha that nazi robot is firing a giant wiener at her
Red Panzer is honestly great. He or Dr. Psycho should’ve been the first movie’s villain.
The main issue with WW’s rogues is that nothing about her is consistent. If they just stuck to one characterization she could have a great gallery.
If wonder woman was initially designed as the sort of ideal woman, then I suppose it tracks that her villains should be corruptions of women and things that corrupt women?
So I guess they should be assembled out of whatever the biggest flaws the writer thinks women can have.
yes, that's what they try
Wertham was right.
>Firing a warhead capable of inflicting fatal damage to WW
>Expecting shielding that can't be much thicker than 2 inches to protect you just a few feet from the detonation
I don't think he's thought this one through
Does the Red Panzer ever make a return?
>Used to play DCUO
>Fight this homie with 3 other players
>Egg puns, annoying stun traps, little egg homies running around zapping me
Kind of miss it.
OG Nazi Adjacents:
Adolf Hitler
Armageddon
Baroness Paula von Gunther
Baron Blitzkrieg
Fausta Grables
Gentleman Killer
Gundra
Gudra
Mavis
Princess Yasmini
Red Panzer
Von Storm
Angle Man,
Ares,
Armageddon,
Blue Snowman,
Cheetah,
Circe,
Deimos,
Devastation,
Doctor Cyber,
Doctor Poison,
Doctor Psycho,
Duke of Deception,
Echidna,
Eris,
Genocide,
Giganta,
Grail,
Hecate,
Hera,
Hypnotic Woman,
Janus,
Maxwell Lord,
Nikos Aegeus,
Phobos,
Queen Clea,
Saturna,
Silver Swan,
Veronica Cale,
Zara
Egg Fu,
Gundra,
Mayfly,
Medusa,
Queen Atomia,
Warmaster
Some of these actually have good recycle potential if written as well as Superman or Batman or Flash recurring Rogues
I disagree on Blue Snowman
Max Lord and E3 Superwoman have special connection to the mythos.
Warmaster Paula Avon Gunther
Genocide
Devastation
Armageddon
Cheetah
Circe
Ares
Dr Psycho
Dr Cyber
Silver Swan
Grail
White Magician
Eris
Dr Poison
All of those are threats
Some less threatening but still good villains are:
Angle Man
Giganta
Osira
Liar Liar
Medusa
Dark Angel
Mayfly
Duke of Deception
Queen Clea
Veronica Cale
Zara
The ones that are too silly and stupids are:
Minister Blizzard
The Blue Snowman
Eviless/Saturna
Badra
Paper man
Fireworks Man
Dr Domino
Centipede Man
Mouse Man
>too silly and stupid
>Minister Blizzard
>Paper man
>Dr Domino
Was he even used after 52? He was so underrated and should've been used more.
he's still hanging in oolong Island with the rest of the Science Squad during metal IIRC
I was just about to post this.
I hate how people fixate on giving Diana greek mythology villains. It's like a worse version of Superman fighting only Kryptonians.
Diana's villains should be oddballs. All the bizarre weirdoes even by supervillain standards. It should also not phase her how bizarre some of her villains are while other's find them weird. To Diana fighting a giant Egg or FTM Snowman is just a Tuesday
I can fix her.
Wondie's only memorable villains are an autistic femcel furry & her molester uncle.
Wonder Woman suffers from older good writers only wanting to focus on Batman and Superman and newer writers not being able to write interesting story lines.
What about Paddy Gypso, chief of the Irish Gypsies?
I'd legit love to see Wonder Woman fight a pikey with super strength.
>Tyson Fury vs Wonder Woman
>Asian woman at 70
I honestly don’t get how Cheetah gets “arch enemy” status over Dr. Psycho or Dr. Cyber.
I don't know either. Certainly wasn't even Marston's choice for it. Baroness Von Gunther, Duke of Deception and Dr. Psycho were the most recurring villains in his stories.
She appeared in cartoon more, that's about it.
Why does he not really have an origin? He's a giant talking egg, that seems like it needs some explanation
I prefer the racist stereotype over this bland Modok knock-off.
the modern version could have at least kept the mustache even if they wanted to move away from the racism
Asians are not giant eggs. it's a very hurtful stereotype
Strife was a good pestering foil, Wonder Woman could use one like that since she doesn't really have one among her old rogues gallery.
Wonder Woman has no good rogues because her character has no consistent theme or even aesthetic. Batman's villains are all from film noir or classic horror, Superman's are all from pulp sci fi, what's her thing?
classical mythology could be her thing
could be, but you'd have to excise like half of her rogues and double down on the Greek mythology ones.
"her thing" in the golden age was fantasy, which included but was not confined to greek/roman mythology
in that regard, villains like Circe, Queen Clea and Barbara Minerva would be "her thing". But I find that boring.
She should stick to magic things, not just Greek Mythology. But the flying bricjk that takes on monsters and wizards way more often since that seems to be a sticking point for Superman.
I'd like to think Captain Marvel also fulfills the same role though. The hero you need when an ancient god, wizard, or dragon wants to take over the world.
except that his comics don't represent mythology well, only people who don't like mythology say this.
Trying to streamline all her villains into a theme is the problem, Batman's villains weren't designed on a theme and making all of Superman's villains Kryptonian is a huge problem.
How is classic Riddler film noir or classic horror? cause he started wearing a suit in the 60's?How is Bane? You're just retroactively applying a theme when a lot of these rogues were created randomly and only really became a recurring gallery when the 66 show decided to use a lot of them.
Let Diana have bizarre and wacky villains.
Bat villain theme was mental illnesses. Riddler was obsessive compulsive. But also organized crime and gangster adjacent stuff seems to really rule the whole Batman sphere of things.
Just like Flash villains are smart guys and engineers who make clever things and gadgets then try to throw their weight around. GL villains are aliens. Superman villains are largely aliens and mad scientists.
Bro almost all supervillains are mentally ill
>Superman villains are largely aliens and mad scientists
Superman's villains are just anything you could find a 50s sci fi movie.
Alien invaders of various flavors. Brainiac's the ultra high tech, emotionless, detached kind of invader, emphasized by him always being a cyborg or android.
Zod, Mongul, and Darkseid are the more "socially primitive feudalistic warlord who loves to fight" kind of invaders. Brainiac can fight as well or better than them but it's a means to an end, for them they just want to beat stuff with their fists and are primarily characterized as warlords instead of scientists. Hence shit like gladiator matches and caste systems on their planets.
A ton of mad scientists with wacky inventions, most prominently Luthor, and their biomechanical creations like Metallo, Parasite, and Doomsday.
Evil clones of the main characters, either literal or "mirror universe" ones, like Cyborg Superman, Ultraman, Bizarro, and Superboy-Prime.
Gangsters with recognizably 20th century motives and aesthetics but futuristic technology, like Intergang.
A quirky nigh-omnipotent humanoid from another dimension who likes to scree around, in Mxy.
There's a good reason almost every Superman rogue is also the premise of a Star Trek villain. They're drawing from the same sources.
It's all different varieties of pulp, Superman is pulp Sci-Fi like Doc Samson or Buck Rogers, Batman is pulp detective stories like The Shadow and Dick Tracy. Wonder Woman is supposed to be pulp fantasy, the only problem is most pulp fantasy is hypermasculine swords and sorcery stuff like Conan the Barbarian or Tarzan, so Wonder Woman's basic character concept doesn't fit well with style.
WW's pulp fantasy roots is shit like Lost Horizon.
>Batman's villains are all from film noir or classic horror
like The Riddler? Mr. Freeze? The Penguin? Catwoman? Poison Ivy? You're full of shit.
That's because no one wants to admit that Batman's classic villains are just cribbing from Dick Tracy.
Why not? Would emphasize his detective nature.
That's the way I saw it, majority of them were mafia goons with mob nicknames like every Dick Tracey villain. It's why most of them wear suits instead of goofy costumes. Joker, Mad Hatter, Two Face, Penguin, Black Mask, Ras, wear suits and ties. Seems like the ones that wear goofy costumes are more of a break from the norm.
Another thing is that Bat writers have actively tried to memory hole a fairly massive span of Batman's publishing history because it doesn't fit their preferred Batman. Morrison most notably retconned the majority of Batman's post-Golden Age and Silver Age history out of existence, saying it was all a dream. For a lot of writers you might as well cut out everything between 1941 and 1970.
Given her history, her best point of comparison should be Hellboy minus all the apocalypse stuff.
Didn't Morrison walk that back later though?
Nita but I believe so
Most comic fans who cite "film noir" have never actually seen a film noir or know what it's like. same with pulp.
>The Penguin? Catwoman?
yes?
Riddler, Penguin, and Catwoman are all film noir archetypes. Freeze (mad doctor) and Ivy (mad doctor + killer plants) are horror ones.
"film noir".
How about you invent a new one.
>But you are not allowed to use greek (or any other) mythology
Remember when this guy was in Doom Patrol? Remember when this guy was part of Harley Quinn's supporting cast? DC really wanted to make him work in the modern era.
One of my friends thought this guy was the funniest thing ever when he saw him in DCUO. I always liked his design
>Hey, hey Wonder Woman!
>Egg Fu comes back to emnace the world as as internet meme
Wonder woman vs pepe in essence
I remember randomly bumping into him in the Lego villain game. Freaked me the frick out.
Omg.
Is that Golden Flumpty?
I don’t understand why out of all Wondie’s rogues, Egg-Fu got the push. Once you get past “teehee he’s an egg” he’s not memorable beyond being stupid.
Meanwhile Psycho, Cyber, Red Panzer, Dr. Domino, Paperman, Armageddon, and Gunther all deserve more attention.
Because of the egg. The others have to compete against similar concepts that exist elsewhere in the world.
What other midget rapists with psychic powers are there?
He’s visually interesting (which is probably half of the appeal of all comic book characters)
Dr.Psycho had a huge push too for awhile .
The main issue with Wonder Woman villains is that every new writer that has gotten on the book since the early 00s has hated them all and wanted to overhaul the entire villain cast, or make up a totally new one. Then the next writer hates all the villains and wants to make all new ones, then the same shit happens with the very next writer after that.
>Egg-Fu got the push.
He got a push? Fricking when? Wasn't he a supporting character in one of the shitty Harley series?
>invented Zoomer Broccoli hair
Wow
Zoomer Broccoli hair
I thought those were the germans during the world wars. Though either fit as Wondy villains
I've just noticed te Blue Snowman looks a hell lot like Everett True
Talk about power scaling. Though Everett doesn't resist his wife whenever she beats the crap out of him, so it wouldn't have been much of a fight.
White Magician was pretty cool. Basicly american count cagliostro who sometimes poses as a superhero/villain
Has any version of Egg Fu ever have an origin ?
He's always tied to apokolips somehow, one point he was a super computer made from a piece of apokolips tech left on earth, now I think he's just a apokoliptian agent sent to earth.
I guess I can buy into that though I never liked much of New Gods stuff besides Kirby’s and Walt’s run
Not in the 50s, he was just a big chinese egg guy.
Later he was a super computer that for some reason China built as a big egg with a mustache appendage. In the 90s he became an old computer from Apokolips that just looked like an egg. No later version has had an origin though.
Manlet Psychic Rapist is a good villain.
Circe is good
Motherfricker she has one of the coolest Villains of all time.
It's not even original to her, they shamelessly stole it from mythology
he's not cool at all
Modern Wondy relies too much on mythological villains
I like Veronica Cale
its too bad that writers don't do "done in one" issues any more where the hero shows up to stop some wacky villain's dumb evil plan anymore.