Ran out of ideas. Tried to give us a moral story on Saul Goodman, when everyone just wanted to enjoy the sleazy lawyer get up to his old tricks.
Just a fundamental misguidance on his character arc.
It was obvious to me that he was gonna do time but we never ever see remorse.
We never see self reflection.
For example, in mad men we see that in Don. We feel close because we know things about him that the other characters don't.
It's like one minute he's about to ruin Kim's life for icecream the next he's turned it all around.
We got some regret flashbacks. And he never says what he really regrets. Instead all his regrets are about money.
I would have thought the flashbacks would be building up to this.
He puts on brilliant crying performances for sympathy any time he wants. In fact, look at the contrast between when he was at the negotiation table vs when he was in front of the judge and no longer wanted milk sympathy. Virtually the same lines deliver half-heartedly as compared to the passionately pained victim he was playing before.
When he’s confessing in the court room all I could think about was when he was faking his love for chuck it to avoid disbarment, didn’t seem sincere at all
>Then we are supposed to believe that Saul took the years just to Kim again. You gotta be kidding me.
I thinks his choice makes sense. There are two main factors:
1) when he talked to Kim at the phone, she told him to come out to the cops. He didnt take her seriously: after all, who would do that? So, he gets caught, he knows he has a chance to get a reduced sentence and goes with it. Notice how much bravado he puts on after he has told his "story for the jury": he is downright arrogant. But then he discovers that Kim has already confessed to the cops: she actually followed through her own advice. He suddenly realized that she wasnt just talking the talk, she actually meant what she said, and she proved to him that it could be done through her own action.
2) the second factor is much simpler: Kim is literally the only person Jimmy has in the world. There is literally no one else who still cares about him. He was always starved for respect. and now the only person he has in the world has shown him that redemption is not just a fairy tale, and that we can really strive for it.
Given these two factors, which options did Jimmy have?
Option A: he comes out in 7 years, alone in the world, no one he cares about cares about him. He will be a lonely, poor old man who will have to go back to scamming people to make a living.
Option B: he takes the sentence. He makes amends for his mistakes (for which he feels actual guilt), and preserves the respect Kim has for him. He will be stuck there forever, but he knows that at least a single person will keep genuinely caring for him, and will respect the moral choice he has taken.
Given all these elements, Jimmy's choice becomes much more reasonable.
7 years and then he can rebuild his life from scratch vs life in prison to have the respect from Kim who will forget about him in a year and stop visiting him, kek it’s still a moronic choice
>Kim who will forget about him in a year
A-yup. Yup. Yup. Aaaah yup.
Really don't see why he couldn't have kept the deal. I get that he wanted to stop running, but he can stop running for 7.5 years no problem.
>I get that he wanted to stop running, but he can stop running for 7.5 years no problem.
Because muh realism gays would have complained. Now Kim is getting dicked down without guild and Jimmy will be forgotten lmaoooo!
Their last stare down pretty much establishes that Kim will always remember him, imho. Dunno why you're trying to paint her as some sort of superficial prostitute, when in the show it is repeatedly shown that she's truly loyal and that she genuinely cares about Jimmy
She ditched him for 6 years and didn’t talk to him once, lmao she’ll get blacked and forget about him in a year and he’ll rot in prison until he dies regretting his decision
Yeah, because she thought that their love was too dangerous for people around them. That was her way to cope with Howard's death (by basically destroying her individuality by living the most uneventful suburban life), but it is still evident when she breaks up with Jim that she still loved him deeply.
He did fine for years without Kim.
We are constantly primed throughout the episode to think that he only cares about money.
He had the choice to do this years ago.
If Kim's approval meant that much to him he could have stopped after what happened to Howard.
His life 7 years from that day would be no different to his life between Kim leaving and that day.
I reject your argument.
2/10 apply yourself.
>But you have to show it god damnit.
You absolute pleb. This isn't a show for preteens.
>this show is so intelligent you have to fill in the blanks yourself.
Lemme just step over this literal Chekhov's gun and also this Chekhov's laptop so I can try to understand your complex argument.
>everything needs to be explained to me verbally because I'm a toddler
The actors filled in the blanks through their actions and expression. Everything you are asking about has been answered. You just weren't paying attention.
Kim was already yuping with some dude and eating at outback steakhouse.
What changed for Saul to turn it all around at the end.
If really cared so much about Kim why was he so mean the day of the divorce. The office had been downgraded to what we know from BB so clearly time had passed.
He was bitter about the divorce and went deeper into the Saul persona of not giving a frick. That's why he was cold. He was hurting.
It was also his feeling for Kim that sent him spiraling out of control. She was his last human connection on Earth and she cut him off. That's when he started overreaching in ways he never would have. That's why he did shit he really didn't need to be doing until he got himself caught. It all ultimately led to bringing Kim back around to him and sharing that cigarette.
There were tomes at the end where he really seems to be on the verge of giving up his humanity. He nearly clubs the cancer guy in the head. He almost choked the old lady before she could snitch on him. In the end, he chose to hold onto his humanity and that was done in the form of his act of atonement in front of Kim, his only real human witness.
He was not a man of regrets. He never lived that way. But he was great a choosing his priorities and by the end he had placed a higher priority on his humanity than all else. He gained an inner peace that was worth more to him than money and more than winning a game he already knew he could win. He is somebody who gets what he wants. He found out what he wanted most and ge got it.
It turns out, what he wanted most was to be a popular prison guy.
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Anonymous
>He was bitter about the divorce and went deeper into the Saul persona of not giving a frick. That's why he was cold. He was hurting. >It was also his feeling for Kim that sent him spiraling out of control. She was his last human connection on Earth and she cut him off. That's when he started overreaching in ways he never would have.
This is your assumption.
If he was truly sad on the inside we would be shown the truly sad on the inside.
And I guess you could say the build up to that scene somewhat speaks to it. But we don't see sad. It's more nervous than sad.
Really try to understand this and take off your rose tinted glasses.
We are never shown what he's feeling after signing the papers.
The rest of your argument is based off this assumption
2 years ago
Anonymous
Not that guy, but do the writers have to spell every single thing out for you, otherwise it's just an "assumption"?
2 years ago
Anonymous
I think the writers think they do because of their in their face use of motifs and plat devices like the Chekhov's gun and laptop.
If they need to spell those things out why am I supposed to grasp this complex subject of human emotion all on my own?
2 years ago
Anonymous
I don't think they need to spell everything out. This is the expectation I would set for a show aimed at children and morons, not for series like BCS.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>We are never shown what he's feeling after signing the papers.
We see him sign the papers, severing his ties to a meaningful relationship. Then immediately see him banging some hooker he doesn't care about. There is plenty enough to infer from that alone.
>He did fine for years without Kim
Being Saul Goodman wasn't "doing fine". He was a hollow husk of the man he used to be, completely alone in the world, and with absolutely no aim apart from earning money to spend on prostitutes and frivolities. >We are constantly primed throughout the episode to think that he only cares about money.
Not true, in the Mike scene that was just a front. When Mike actually asks him if there was anything more substantial he wanted to change in his past, Jimmy immediately gets serious and bails.
I think the scene where he talks with Chuck is his "time machine moment": he wishes he could go back to that moment and follow his advice (there's no shame in changing your path if you dont like where you're headed). >He had the choice to do this years ago.
Not really, since what really changed his mind was Kim actually coming out to the police. >If Kim's approval meant that much to him he could have stopped after what happened to Howard.
He would have probably done so, if Kim stayed and gave him an ultimatum. But she left, and what was left of Jim was just a hollow shell.
I'll ask you a question: now that BCS is over, in your opinion, what was the happiest part of Jimmy's life? His Jimmy era, or his Saul era?
We never see that transformation.
We never understand him. We just assume and make deductions.
Also, Kim had already paid a big price. She quit the law. The law and her career was very important to her. It was a large part of her identity.
But I guess Saul doesn't care about that. It's only when she confessed it matters. And also he could have just left it alone if he cared about Kim and not said he had more to trade.
Whatever he said in court doesn't change the civil suit that Hamlin's widow was prepping for. She's put herself in by her own testimony. Nothing was gonna save her.
>b-b-but they stared.
Oh well you didn't tell me that they stared. Well that changes everything. They stared so of course Saul takes the years. Because they fricking stared.
>We never see that transformation. We never understand him. We just assume and make deductions
Yeah, but in this case the deductions are extremely easy to grasp. We see a more soulful Jimmy in BCS, and we see the hollow degenerate he becomes in BB. How did we get from Jimmy to Saul? The answer is super easy: once Kim was out of his life he literally had no real goal anymore, nor he had anything holding him back. The Saul in BB is basically a robot going on in autopilot, moving through the motions to obtain things he didnt really care about. Saul in BB is an empty person, and he becomes so when the only person that gave a content to his life, Kim, left. I think this can be seen very easily in his last phone call with Francesca, where you see that he basically had no one in his life apart from his business associates (and he didnt care one iota about them, nor did they care about him). >But I guess Saul doesn't care about that. It's only when she confessed it matters. And also he could have just left it alone if he cared about Kim and not said he had more to trade. Whatever he said in court doesn't change the civil suit that Hamlin's widow was prepping for. She's put herself in by her own testimony. Nothing was gonna save her.
As other people pointed out, he didnt want to save her, since he knew she made her choice. Imho this is actually what inspired him to make his choice, to come out clean and to show Kim that behind Saul there was still a Jimmy McGill.
>WTF PEOPLE ABLE TO PREDICT THIS ENDING OUT OF THE 1000 THEORIES THEY MADE? THIS SUCKED!
Vince should've ended the show Two and a Half Men style so he could make fun of you gays directly
Too much of a 180. People don't change that fast if ever. I would have preferred he had realized everything he did in the finale throughout his prison sentence but it would be too late to change. It would fit the time machine/regret motif they were shoving down our throats.
He had always been morally conflicted though, he just kept burying it deeper and deeper until he found himself in the shit with the Breaking Bad stuff.
We put that together in our head because of our assumptions and we like the character we want them to be like us.
But you have to show it god damnit.
Otherwise what are you even doing?
This had always ben a subtle plot point and was never really confronted head on. The time he poured his heart out about Chuck to save his license and then walked out laughing about how the suckers bought it, we see Kim's face as she realizes she had bought it as well. You see he questioning whether she really knows this man who can lie so completely. There is a moment where she is disturbed by it, but she pushes that aside for her own reasons.
Of course, an autist would never see this.
>It doesn't hold a candle to the breaking bad finale
The whole show lived in breaking bads shadow. It was a try hard mimicking tepid off color knock off. Breaking bad is classic coke
You have to look at it through the pozzed lens of 2022, so Kim was perfect and did the right thing and he got enlightened by her grace as she is a woman, and men are always inferior to women.
Shitty series that spiraled into lower viewership as audiences realized he would never turn into the funny guy from BB.
Also full of pozzed cuck shit, and old characters butting in with no reason other than nostalgiabait.
But if hes in prison all the goons will constantly make him stay within the Saul persona. He wouldn't get any time to "atone." Why is time and location a factor of his "atonement?" Being in a prison doesn't change him, it just makes his life miserable...
I guess it's just an issue of ambiguity then. I'll take back what I said about prison being miserable, since he's got the goon squad he's probably gonna be well taken care of. Which means that he chose prison because of a reason that wasn't "atonement." Otherwise he would have isolated himself or whatever the word means for him.
Why would that make him miserable? He's known in the entire country for being a defender of criminals, and now he's surrounded by people who loves him for it where everywhere else he was hated.
Why does Saul care about Mike and Walt having regrets? Why does he want to know? Is he just uncomfortable sharing his own regrets or admitting them to himself until the end?
derp derp i feel so bad and wanna saved my ex from being sued by a rich widow whos husbands was a arrogant butthole, Hamlin trespassing when murdered boo hoo boo hoo im so sad lawyer dont want freedom, want jail and bum stuff want, im going to take 80 years because that is the only logical thing that my character would do despite no living human being would ever do that because its fricking insane.
ending could have been him getting out of jail in 5 years and dedicating his life to volunteering, like Kim was doing in that law place.
actually helping people and serving the world. Hamlin deserved to be killed just for denying that young girl a scholarship because she shop lifted, Hamlin was an butthole. He stole clients. His wife didn't like him.
Hamlin fricked plenty of people over. He was unethical with the Sandpiper case.
Kim was volunteering in that law place, the truth was they needed to ATONE IN THE REAL WORLD. Not in jail lol.
Kim went to Gus's house to murder him lol
conspiracy to murder, is she going to admit to that???
Doesn't matter the circumstances, the law says shes should have gone to the police.
Kim should be jailed for attempting to kill Gus. But no boo hoo we have to have a FULL confession from simp boy james. because why.
I wanted to see James/ jimmy, Saul whatever atone in the real world, the world he spent his life trying to frick over. He finally serves other people, volunteers forever, uses his resources to help others.
7 years is a long time, and enough time to atone.
Serves a life sentence doing the equivalent of picking litter on the highway, like he got out of, by bullshitting the dude. no more bs, full time low rank civilian. Jail is too easy for him, the prisoners' were worshiping him
The court didn't deserve the whole truth. The world deserved James MGill becoming a real citizen.
James atoning back in the real world would have been the most logical thing.
Genuinely if Jimmy had taken the seven years and then spent time outside prison being a consultant for true crime shows/the DEA on how criminals work he would've atoned and then some and got to use his talents and charisma for good.
I think it was a good ending. Sort of predicted that he would confess and go to jail and his love for Kim would be rekindled through with Saul in Jail and Kim visiting him. They really had me wondering if he really was gonna take that deal, and in the end he gave up the conman to give peace to his inner McGill. It's bittersweet.
What exactly did he do that warranted a life sentence, considering Walt ignored just about every bit of advice from him, and followed through with Skylar's suggestions?
Didn't watch GOT was this was a dumpster fire. The best scene in it was Walt being Walt. Just reminds you of how much this series needed Walt more in the plot.
>created by vince gilligan
Ran out of ideas. Tried to give us a moral story on Saul Goodman, when everyone just wanted to enjoy the sleazy lawyer get up to his old tricks.
Just a fundamental misguidance on his character arc.
First half is literally a jerk off that goes no where.
Then we are supposed to believe that Saul took the years just to Kim again.
You gotta be kidding me.
We do get to see Chuck and Walter which I think was the episodes saving grace.
Also takes the stink off many of the previous episodes.
Is Saul meant to be bipolar or something?
We really don't see anything happen which would make us think he is about to do this.
It was obvious to me that he was gonna do time but we never ever see remorse.
We never see self reflection.
For example, in mad men we see that in Don. We feel close because we know things about him that the other characters don't.
It's like one minute he's about to ruin Kim's life for icecream the next he's turned it all around.
We got some regret flashbacks. And he never says what he really regrets. Instead all his regrets are about money.
I would have thought the flashbacks would be building up to this.
I don't get it wtf.
Who is to blame for this?
Can no one write a scene where Odenkirk cries or is Odenkirk not capable of crying?
He puts on brilliant crying performances for sympathy any time he wants. In fact, look at the contrast between when he was at the negotiation table vs when he was in front of the judge and no longer wanted milk sympathy. Virtually the same lines deliver half-heartedly as compared to the passionately pained victim he was playing before.
When he’s confessing in the court room all I could think about was when he was faking his love for chuck it to avoid disbarment, didn’t seem sincere at all
>Then we are supposed to believe that Saul took the years just to Kim again. You gotta be kidding me.
I thinks his choice makes sense. There are two main factors:
1) when he talked to Kim at the phone, she told him to come out to the cops. He didnt take her seriously: after all, who would do that? So, he gets caught, he knows he has a chance to get a reduced sentence and goes with it. Notice how much bravado he puts on after he has told his "story for the jury": he is downright arrogant. But then he discovers that Kim has already confessed to the cops: she actually followed through her own advice. He suddenly realized that she wasnt just talking the talk, she actually meant what she said, and she proved to him that it could be done through her own action.
2) the second factor is much simpler: Kim is literally the only person Jimmy has in the world. There is literally no one else who still cares about him. He was always starved for respect. and now the only person he has in the world has shown him that redemption is not just a fairy tale, and that we can really strive for it.
Given these two factors, which options did Jimmy have?
Option A: he comes out in 7 years, alone in the world, no one he cares about cares about him. He will be a lonely, poor old man who will have to go back to scamming people to make a living.
Option B: he takes the sentence. He makes amends for his mistakes (for which he feels actual guilt), and preserves the respect Kim has for him. He will be stuck there forever, but he knows that at least a single person will keep genuinely caring for him, and will respect the moral choice he has taken.
Given all these elements, Jimmy's choice becomes much more reasonable.
7 years and then he can rebuild his life from scratch vs life in prison to have the respect from Kim who will forget about him in a year and stop visiting him, kek it’s still a moronic choice
>Kim who will forget about him in a year
A-yup. Yup. Yup. Aaaah yup.
Really don't see why he couldn't have kept the deal. I get that he wanted to stop running, but he can stop running for 7.5 years no problem.
>I get that he wanted to stop running, but he can stop running for 7.5 years no problem.
Because muh realism gays would have complained. Now Kim is getting dicked down without guild and Jimmy will be forgotten lmaoooo!
Their last stare down pretty much establishes that Kim will always remember him, imho. Dunno why you're trying to paint her as some sort of superficial prostitute, when in the show it is repeatedly shown that she's truly loyal and that she genuinely cares about Jimmy
She ditched him for 6 years and didn’t talk to him once, lmao she’ll get blacked and forget about him in a year and he’ll rot in prison until he dies regretting his decision
Touch grass
>lmao she’ll get blacked and forget about him in a year
the only thing that's rotting is your brain poltard
>muh /misc/
kettle, black.
Yeah, because she thought that their love was too dangerous for people around them. That was her way to cope with Howard's death (by basically destroying her individuality by living the most uneventful suburban life), but it is still evident when she breaks up with Jim that she still loved him deeply.
He did fine for years without Kim.
We are constantly primed throughout the episode to think that he only cares about money.
He had the choice to do this years ago.
If Kim's approval meant that much to him he could have stopped after what happened to Howard.
His life 7 years from that day would be no different to his life between Kim leaving and that day.
I reject your argument.
2/10 apply yourself.
>this show is so intelligent you have to fill in the blanks yourself.
Lemme just step over this literal Chekhov's gun and also this Chekhov's laptop so I can try to understand your complex argument.
>everything needs to be explained to me verbally because I'm a toddler
The actors filled in the blanks through their actions and expression. Everything you are asking about has been answered. You just weren't paying attention.
Kim was already yuping with some dude and eating at outback steakhouse.
What changed for Saul to turn it all around at the end.
If really cared so much about Kim why was he so mean the day of the divorce. The office had been downgraded to what we know from BB so clearly time had passed.
He was bitter about the divorce and went deeper into the Saul persona of not giving a frick. That's why he was cold. He was hurting.
It was also his feeling for Kim that sent him spiraling out of control. She was his last human connection on Earth and she cut him off. That's when he started overreaching in ways he never would have. That's why he did shit he really didn't need to be doing until he got himself caught. It all ultimately led to bringing Kim back around to him and sharing that cigarette.
There were tomes at the end where he really seems to be on the verge of giving up his humanity. He nearly clubs the cancer guy in the head. He almost choked the old lady before she could snitch on him. In the end, he chose to hold onto his humanity and that was done in the form of his act of atonement in front of Kim, his only real human witness.
He was not a man of regrets. He never lived that way. But he was great a choosing his priorities and by the end he had placed a higher priority on his humanity than all else. He gained an inner peace that was worth more to him than money and more than winning a game he already knew he could win. He is somebody who gets what he wants. He found out what he wanted most and ge got it.
It turns out, what he wanted most was to be a popular prison guy.
>He was bitter about the divorce and went deeper into the Saul persona of not giving a frick. That's why he was cold. He was hurting.
>It was also his feeling for Kim that sent him spiraling out of control. She was his last human connection on Earth and she cut him off. That's when he started overreaching in ways he never would have.
This is your assumption.
If he was truly sad on the inside we would be shown the truly sad on the inside.
And I guess you could say the build up to that scene somewhat speaks to it. But we don't see sad. It's more nervous than sad.
Really try to understand this and take off your rose tinted glasses.
We are never shown what he's feeling after signing the papers.
The rest of your argument is based off this assumption
Not that guy, but do the writers have to spell every single thing out for you, otherwise it's just an "assumption"?
I think the writers think they do because of their in their face use of motifs and plat devices like the Chekhov's gun and laptop.
If they need to spell those things out why am I supposed to grasp this complex subject of human emotion all on my own?
I don't think they need to spell everything out. This is the expectation I would set for a show aimed at children and morons, not for series like BCS.
>We are never shown what he's feeling after signing the papers.
We see him sign the papers, severing his ties to a meaningful relationship. Then immediately see him banging some hooker he doesn't care about. There is plenty enough to infer from that alone.
>He did fine for years without Kim
Being Saul Goodman wasn't "doing fine". He was a hollow husk of the man he used to be, completely alone in the world, and with absolutely no aim apart from earning money to spend on prostitutes and frivolities.
>We are constantly primed throughout the episode to think that he only cares about money.
Not true, in the Mike scene that was just a front. When Mike actually asks him if there was anything more substantial he wanted to change in his past, Jimmy immediately gets serious and bails.
I think the scene where he talks with Chuck is his "time machine moment": he wishes he could go back to that moment and follow his advice (there's no shame in changing your path if you dont like where you're headed).
>He had the choice to do this years ago.
Not really, since what really changed his mind was Kim actually coming out to the police.
>If Kim's approval meant that much to him he could have stopped after what happened to Howard.
He would have probably done so, if Kim stayed and gave him an ultimatum. But she left, and what was left of Jim was just a hollow shell.
I'll ask you a question: now that BCS is over, in your opinion, what was the happiest part of Jimmy's life? His Jimmy era, or his Saul era?
We never see that transformation.
We never understand him. We just assume and make deductions.
Also, Kim had already paid a big price. She quit the law. The law and her career was very important to her. It was a large part of her identity.
But I guess Saul doesn't care about that. It's only when she confessed it matters. And also he could have just left it alone if he cared about Kim and not said he had more to trade.
Whatever he said in court doesn't change the civil suit that Hamlin's widow was prepping for. She's put herself in by her own testimony. Nothing was gonna save her.
>b-b-but they stared.
Oh well you didn't tell me that they stared. Well that changes everything. They stared so of course Saul takes the years. Because they fricking stared.
>We never see that transformation. We never understand him. We just assume and make deductions
Yeah, but in this case the deductions are extremely easy to grasp. We see a more soulful Jimmy in BCS, and we see the hollow degenerate he becomes in BB. How did we get from Jimmy to Saul? The answer is super easy: once Kim was out of his life he literally had no real goal anymore, nor he had anything holding him back. The Saul in BB is basically a robot going on in autopilot, moving through the motions to obtain things he didnt really care about. Saul in BB is an empty person, and he becomes so when the only person that gave a content to his life, Kim, left. I think this can be seen very easily in his last phone call with Francesca, where you see that he basically had no one in his life apart from his business associates (and he didnt care one iota about them, nor did they care about him).
>But I guess Saul doesn't care about that. It's only when she confessed it matters. And also he could have just left it alone if he cared about Kim and not said he had more to trade. Whatever he said in court doesn't change the civil suit that Hamlin's widow was prepping for. She's put herself in by her own testimony. Nothing was gonna save her.
As other people pointed out, he didnt want to save her, since he knew she made her choice. Imho this is actually what inspired him to make his choice, to come out clean and to show Kim that behind Saul there was still a Jimmy McGill.
>WTF PEOPLE ABLE TO PREDICT THIS ENDING OUT OF THE 1000 THEORIES THEY MADE? THIS SUCKED!
Vince should've ended the show Two and a Half Men style so he could make fun of you gays directly
It's not worse than GOT's ending but definitely around that level of crap.
>iphone poster is a complete moron
Why is this so common?
Too much of a 180. People don't change that fast if ever. I would have preferred he had realized everything he did in the finale throughout his prison sentence but it would be too late to change. It would fit the time machine/regret motif they were shoving down our throats.
He had always been morally conflicted though, he just kept burying it deeper and deeper until he found himself in the shit with the Breaking Bad stuff.
We put that together in our head because of our assumptions and we like the character we want them to be like us.
But you have to show it god damnit.
Otherwise what are you even doing?
>But you have to show it god damnit.
You absolute pleb. This isn't a show for preteens.
This had always ben a subtle plot point and was never really confronted head on. The time he poured his heart out about Chuck to save his license and then walked out laughing about how the suckers bought it, we see Kim's face as she realizes she had bought it as well. You see he questioning whether she really knows this man who can lie so completely. There is a moment where she is disturbed by it, but she pushes that aside for her own reasons.
Of course, an autist would never see this.
That's not fricking possible
Not enough explosions and shootouts for you, smoothbrain?
No, not enough logic, moron.
Get back to your avengers and Cheetos.
It doesn't hold a candle to the breaking bad finale
>It doesn't hold a candle to the breaking bad finale
The whole show lived in breaking bads shadow. It was a try hard mimicking tepid off color knock off. Breaking bad is classic coke
BCS mogs BB six ways to sunday
I wanted him to throw Kim under the bus.
I wanted to see how Jimmy became Saul.
Somehow I never fricking saw that and these guys and Reddit fricked it up.
Not much to see. He started as Slip n Fall Saul. Put him through bartending school. >so you were always like this
Do you think he would have taken the 80 years if he knew Kim had a new boyfriend?
>Do you think he would have taken the 80 years if he knew Kim had a new boyfriend?
A cuck is a cuck.
It was not that bad calm the frick down
The ending was quite satisfactory. We got to see the one thing we never saw from Jimmy before: Genuine atonement. Kim literally saved his soul.
those last 4 episodes was such a waste of time
everyone loved it
You have to look at it through the pozzed lens of 2022, so Kim was perfect and did the right thing and he got enlightened by her grace as she is a woman, and men are always inferior to women.
The level of discourse on this board really has gone downhill hasn’t it
Shitty series that spiraled into lower viewership as audiences realized he would never turn into the funny guy from BB.
Also full of pozzed cuck shit, and old characters butting in with no reason other than nostalgiabait.
>BB tourists who watched only the finale like the cattle they are
Ligma balls
>86 years is atonement
>7 years isn't
Why not
Because he felt that a lifetime of atonement is what was needed to atone for his misdeeds
But if hes in prison all the goons will constantly make him stay within the Saul persona. He wouldn't get any time to "atone." Why is time and location a factor of his "atonement?" Being in a prison doesn't change him, it just makes his life miserable...
He'd still rather be Saul than a normies tho. Just a short time in normie life and prison was looking pretty good.
I guess it's just an issue of ambiguity then. I'll take back what I said about prison being miserable, since he's got the goon squad he's probably gonna be well taken care of. Which means that he chose prison because of a reason that wasn't "atonement." Otherwise he would have isolated himself or whatever the word means for him.
They remind him of the Saul persona, but he seem to have rejected it: he just act like a quiet, calm person.
Ultimately this is what the defenders of the ending aren’t getting kek
They should try prison for once and see if it’s as just of a place as Vince makes it seem
Why would that make him miserable? He's known in the entire country for being a defender of criminals, and now he's surrounded by people who loves him for it where everywhere else he was hated.
it's a crime and punishment ending without the religious angle so of course it's moronic
Why does Saul care about Mike and Walt having regrets? Why does he want to know? Is he just uncomfortable sharing his own regrets or admitting them to himself until the end?
Was the show finale released? I've been waiting for it to finish before I start watching it.
Is it time for me to finally begin watching?
derp derp i feel so bad and wanna saved my ex from being sued by a rich widow whos husbands was a arrogant butthole, Hamlin trespassing when murdered boo hoo boo hoo im so sad lawyer dont want freedom, want jail and bum stuff want, im going to take 80 years because that is the only logical thing that my character would do despite no living human being would ever do that because its fricking insane.
ending could have been him getting out of jail in 5 years and dedicating his life to volunteering, like Kim was doing in that law place.
actually helping people and serving the world. Hamlin deserved to be killed just for denying that young girl a scholarship because she shop lifted, Hamlin was an butthole. He stole clients. His wife didn't like him.
Hamlin fricked plenty of people over. He was unethical with the Sandpiper case.
Kim was volunteering in that law place, the truth was they needed to ATONE IN THE REAL WORLD. Not in jail lol.
Kim went to Gus's house to murder him lol
conspiracy to murder, is she going to admit to that???
Doesn't matter the circumstances, the law says shes should have gone to the police.
Kim should be jailed for attempting to kill Gus. But no boo hoo we have to have a FULL confession from simp boy james. because why.
I wanted to see James/ jimmy, Saul whatever atone in the real world, the world he spent his life trying to frick over. He finally serves other people, volunteers forever, uses his resources to help others.
7 years is a long time, and enough time to atone.
Serves a life sentence doing the equivalent of picking litter on the highway, like he got out of, by bullshitting the dude. no more bs, full time low rank civilian. Jail is too easy for him, the prisoners' were worshiping him
The court didn't deserve the whole truth. The world deserved James MGill becoming a real citizen.
James atoning back in the real world would have been the most logical thing.
total bullshit!
Genuinely if Jimmy had taken the seven years and then spent time outside prison being a consultant for true crime shows/the DEA on how criminals work he would've atoned and then some and got to use his talents and charisma for good.
I think it was a good ending. Sort of predicted that he would confess and go to jail and his love for Kim would be rekindled through with Saul in Jail and Kim visiting him. They really had me wondering if he really was gonna take that deal, and in the end he gave up the conman to give peace to his inner McGill. It's bittersweet.
you literally cannot discuss shit without a dickless monkey telling you didn't get your explosions seriously eat shit
>What went wrong?
It was a prequel featuring a character from a concluded show called Breaking Bad.
What exactly did he do that warranted a life sentence, considering Walt ignored just about every bit of advice from him, and followed through with Skylar's suggestions?
Didn't watch GOT was this was a dumpster fire. The best scene in it was Walt being Walt. Just reminds you of how much this series needed Walt more in the plot.