Worst examples of Millennial writing in Television & Film? Some common traits of Millennial writing include:
>constant out of place swearing
>disrupting emotional moments with attempts at humor
>"what if mildly awkward everyday scenario actually happened in media?"
>fetishization of gruesome over the top violence that's disconnected from the rest of the narrative
>outdated pop culture references
>attempts at tackling topical social issues that don't actually take a stance or ends up being contradicted later
>characters being used as avatars for the writers to have lengthy monologues about their personal issues
>emotionally immature narcissistic nihilists
There I summed it up for ya.
>low IQ
Tehere i summed it up for me.
>emotionally immature narcissistic nihilists
You just described me and the entirety of Cinemaphile in one sentence.
That recent cartoon movie on netflix is like that
>That recent cartoon movie
I was talking about nimona
Barry is guilty of every single one of these things.
did 'student debt' as a motivator for crime show up in any tv or films yet?
>did 'student debt' as a motivator for crime show up in any tv or films yet?
In video games. New Saint's Row is about student debt millennials becoming crime lords.
no i know that's why i'm asking about tv and film
Emily the Criminal or whatever its called with Aubrey Plaza
Imagine if you scratched off one word and some guy starts killing hankers because they tricked him into an usurious contract
>this summer
>he's getting payback
>WITH INTEREST
Saints Row reboot
What's up with this supposed millennial writing always being by gen X instead?
we need to know who these writers really are. here’s the creator of Nimona, male to female transsexual born 1991
The widely agreed upon examples everyone loves to use tend to be vidya. Borderlands, nu-Saints Row, Forspoken, it's almost entirely gen X and the latter even had boomers on its writing team. Indie games is the area where you'll find actual millennial writing.
In movies and TV the iconic example is obviously Joss Whedon who's right on the border between gen X and baby boomers.
>receive 100+ mill budget
>blow it on making a game that's such a piece of shit literally nobody likes it and your entire studio dies
You will never frick up this hard
NITW is an example of millenial writing - before zoe quinn killed the creator
Masculine to Feminine*
>male to female
You have that backwards
>Shit Ra. Now that troon shit makes sense lmao
Formerly Chuck
>blaming others for your own frick ups instead of taking responsibility
Classic millennial behavior.
Nah, even the OP image is of Randy Pitchford who's 52.
4chins is incompetent
That's just how these kinds of generational conversations work. When you're lumping people of vague age groups together by various trends you're going to inevitably get a lot of grey areas, where this sort of thing happens.
Then there's the issue of interest versus achievement.
Media trends are the product of middle-aged creators making for young consumers, which begs the question of what "counts" as part of a given generation anyways. Is a generation defined by what it enjoyed when it was young and hip i.e. the things made by the generation before them, or is it defined by what people actually in the generation produced i.e. the things made for the generation after them?
Ultimately there is no real definition of "millennial" anything, and any working definition we have has a lot of spillover. It's the same as every other generation, really.
gen X always pretends they don't exist unless they can grift
Because Gen X are losers who so desperately want to latch onto anything millennial so they can be cool and hip. Ever wonder why there has been such a push recently to not define below the age of 70 as “old”?
Gen X didn't have the demographic pull but they always had the culture and they're addicted to being on the forefront of any trends.
Yep. I know a 50 something year old dude. Recently divorced with no kids. Only ever hangs out with 20 and 30 something year olds so he can still be cool. Reinvents his political leanings every couple years so they are always in line with whatever bullshit the Democrats are pushing. At some point it just becomes sad to see someone so desperate to cling to youth. You’re supposed to become a sage and guide the youth later in life, not trying to compete with them.
It's weird. At the same time everyone complains about the adult children epidemic but nobody also wants to do adult stuff like work and have a family.
>no one wants to wageslave for zog
And the excuses for why my man childrenism is justified start.
>better to nowageslave for zig
S2
I made it to episode 4, then had to skip through the rest. You can really tell there were women in the writers room
>I made it to episode 4, then had to skip through the rest.
Skip the others then watch episode 6 to 10, it's 00's cringekino
>got upset and quit early
Sounds more like there was a woman in the viewing room
HRT-ridden claws typed this post
How did you type with claws?
have you ever seen a black receptionist?
Keep your fetishes to yourself
I haven't watched it but my usual observations about women writing compared to men is stuff like
Men
>Damn this action somewhat representative of something I would do/want to do is so fricked up, please reject me or acknowledge how fricked up this is
>This scenario is extremely relatable to real life but distinct in some way
Women
>Damn this action somewhat representative of something I would do/want to do is so fricked up but I should be forgiven for it
>This scenario is only real in my head, any absurdism is just a shield to criticism. I'm going to pretend like it's common in real life, then defer to the mob like AM I RIGHT LADIES??
>ENDLESS perfectly timed, perfectly worded, off-hand snipes from smart, cynical characters
Noticed this too. Every single time a woman writes something there's a perfect comeback available on demand
ITT: confusing 'millennials' with 'zoomers.'
We're entering our 40s now, anons. You think we're not complaining about the cursing and the Lemming colored hair? Or the fact that nu-Row was a cringy hipster sitcom?
Black person your entire generation is the reason why soijak caricature exist
I thought Reddit invading in 2016 was the reason soijacks exist.
It is this new generational warfare turned to 10 is a israeli psyop
Right, and then you come to the grim realization that even soijaks looks less fruity than the most masculine men gen z has to offer.
left looks like a male feminist who gets arrested for sexual groping. Right looks like a fun laid back guy who's gonna tell me how to max my gains.
I'm supposed to like the big nose german gay on the left? Or think he's "manly"?
no, they are both examples of feminine men
>feminine
Guy on the right seems, cool, optimistic, and athletic. I'm supposed to not like that?
i dont know i didnt post the picture, i was just explaining it to you since you were feigning ignorance
A small nose on a man is a curse. Makes you look like a perpetual child.
>tennyson
>fruity
Hes a chad
>millennials are represented by basedjack
>zoomers created basedjack cancer as a meme
I hate both with a burning passion
tfw we have to make fun ourselves because zoomers are too uncreative to make fun of us properly.
Black person the oldest zoomer is like 26, they aren't writing this shit.
Zoomzooms can't even use computers, let alone write. Ong no cap frfr
And thank God for that. Zoomer writing will be millennial writing's worst aspects x10.
They don't hire 25 year olds to write for big name shows. Zoomers are still unpaid interns fetching coffee and snacks. Everything you've seen going in with media in the past 15 years is the result of Millennials entering positions of power in the industry.
zoomers are barely literate too
**barely literate either, you fricking ESLBlack person
No, it’s still accurate. gay.
t. Gen X
>t. Gen X
you are proto-millenials
bullshit, the above post originated from Gearbox Software writers
Zoomers are incapable of writing like this
Fargo and Legion
Good reply
Been watching Netflix Castlevania, and I have to say this show. Holy shit is it fricking terrible. Gay sex with gore sprinkled in between, then a bit of anti-christian sentiment and pro-islam propoganda its all shit
Its a show set in romania but they all quip and banter like marvel characters, no surprise the writer is a sex pest
The writer also never played a Castlevania game. Not even for research.
Warren Ellis, he’s a British comic book guy 55 years old
If it's any consolation, Ellis got MeToo'd and it basically ended his career as a big name writer.
Ellis as a writer is garbage but holy shit, the website his accusers set up might just be the gaygiest post-modern commieshit I've ever read: https://somanyofus.com/
>Castlevania
>constant out of place swearing
this was the worst(best) example of this and made it unwatchable for me. Nothing says gothic dark ages atmosphere like dracula monsters saying they'll "kill your fricking c**t"
Ellis was the absolute worst choice they could have possibly made to write a Castlevania series. The franchise has some dark themes, but overall it is very dignified, hopeful, and has that regal, gothic style going for it. Then they bring in a guy who delights in dragging everything through the mud and being as cynical as possible. He thought the guy voicing Hector had such a rich and dignified voice, so he thought it would be just great to have him perform being raped. They don't even beat Dracula, he kills himself and turns into a disgusting slime thing before dying that terrifies Alucard. What the frick were they thinking hiring this absolute homosexual. I'm glad it's over.
>ackshually vampires aren't scared of the cross
>simple geometric shapes confuse their weird vampire vision
everybody involved in the production of this show should be locked in a big chest and tossed into the bottom of the ocean.
even the music sucks. how do you do that? it's fricking castlevania and the music sucks. what the frick were they even doing?
vampires aren't scared of the cross
Since I don't want to bother with a LOST thread, I'll just complain about the writing here.
EVERY single character has daddy issues. It's actually insane. Literally literally insane.
>LOST
It's called Lost, you homosexual. Not LOST.
It's definitely LOST. I watched it because of how bad FROM was.
sometimes when i watch football i have to stream it from yank channels and it's incredible that 90% of your adverts have exactly the same tone and style of tired comedy. millenial corporate goofiness. like shitty american office remake fused with joss whedon "how did this crazy out of place reference get here?" and boomer tier facebook wall jokes.
i fricking hate when a character starts monologuing about some stupid shit i don't care about and it's obvious the writer is self inserting
>Take time to BTFO this clown's thread on Cinemaphile
>Get banned for "off topic"
When I watch a film written by someone under 40, it's so obvious that it was written by someone who spent most of his life in front of a computer/phone screen and has zero life experience.
>make the world shitty and uninviting
>get mad when people don't want to take part in it
What was your plan?
>get addicted to video games, porn and internet scrolling from an early age
>"N-no it's the world that has become shitty despite the culture becoming more coddling and less punishing than ever before. I-i'm a victim!!"
Young people can't help but to play the victim, huh?
>despite the culture becoming more coddling and less punishing than ever before
Yeah just look at France.
>Yeah just look at France.
?
Oh no, not the psy op that made Black folk turn the public opinion against the pension protests
low iq boomer zogbot npc vomit
I'm a millennial too. I work a job that has me travelling all over Asia. Maybe if all I did all day was watch anime, play vidya and jerk off, I would be depressed too.
>spend your youth blasting your brain with dopamine via porn, social media, video games, drugs and alcohol
>wonder why the real world doesnt stack up once youre an adult
truly a lost generation, the first of its kind
>surely it's the fault of porn, social media, video games, drugs and alcohol
>surely it's the fault of rock & roll and Dungeons & Dragons
>surely it's the fault of comics
Every few decades you switch what the spook is and refuse to acknowledge the fault lies 100% with bad parenting.
>Worst examples of Millennial writing in Television & Film?
Yes/thread.
pausing to make "funny" quips
It's called [W]hedonism
So, Curb Your Enthusiasm, or a Tarantino movie?
>Millennial
>constant out of place swearing
Neither boomers or zoomers understand technology so we'll be programming the AIs that'll write shit for the next 200 years.
>So… that just happened
>weird obsession with talking about mental health
>quips/sitcom humor (everyone talks like a parody of a Friends character)
I for one am baffled that a generation that’s obsessed with deconstructing every little thing sucks at making content
It's easier to dismantle things.
As a 27 year old millenial I literally cannot stand this shit. I don't even care about "woke" shit, it would be fine if it was actually well-written but these frickwads have no idea how to write a compelling character, dialogue, a story arc, fricking anything.
It's just painful that they are incapable of writing a good, normal story. It always has to have some artificial layer of artifice, some subversive element, some "quirk". They have no idea how to subtly weave, for example, a political or social message naturally into the plot in a way which ironically might actually change someone's mind or help them think about an issue from a different point of view. It is blatant and bald-faced and even the gayest of gays are starting to get tired of it. Surely with literally EVERY new project flopping they will have to realize this shit is not working?
>As a 27 year old millenial
frick off
you are neither zoomer nor milennial
because you are nothing i spew you out of my mouth
I was born in 1995, sorry to tell you buster but I'm a Millenial
We 95's are at the precipice between youngest millennial or oldest zoomer.
who the frick cares about your stupid ""generation"" labels, you stupid fricking stratifying possum tier IQ idiot
seethe
>27 year old
Zoomzoom
nobody calls it generation y
that chart is a shart
kys
Gen Y was a very popular term before 2012 and then it was memory-holed
that's where the timelines split, moron-kun
The problem is that everything after Boomers is just arbitrary. Greatest Generation are defined by a specific event (WWII), the Baby Boom was an observable demographic phenomenon, 'Silent Generation' was always vaguely pointless but slots in between those two specific historical events. X, Y, Z and Alpha are just picking arbitrary timeframes
>gen X, Y, Z
Generation Å, Generation Ä and Generation Ö
perkele
ja fy fan
Millenials and Zoomers are clearly defined because of the rise of the internet in relation to their age. Gen X is a thoroughly worthless generation in every way though.
GenX was originally called GenX because they were ill-defined and seemed aimless. Originally Millennials were called GenY because, initially, they showed similar behavioral patterns to GenX, but as they got older evolved into the "Millennials" we know today. GenZ is called GenZ and Gen Alpha Gen Alpha because, by then, the meme of "X and Y" had started and sociologists (and marketing departments) decided to just run with it. Source: I'm GenX and lived through all that.
I think millennials were called Gen X sometimes. The term was coined in the 80s but didn’t catch on until a decade later.
And lots of zoomers are still called millenials by politicians who have been going on about millenials for 20 years now
born in 96. i have absolutely nothing in common with people born in 1980 or 2012, why lump everyone in a span of 20 fricking years?
I was born in 95, you can be my friend
>I don't even care about "woke" shit, it would be fine if it was actually well-written
Being woke is the first reason they are bad. Imagine is quoting the bible took priority over internal consistency and the actor were chosen only among priests and nuns and evey story was about faith or something.
what I meant is that the existence of black or gay characters or interracial relationships in and of itself doesn't matter, there is a way to portray those things well. but as you said, sacrificing internal consistency for tokenism is indeed cringe
>I don't even care about "woke" shit, it would be fine if it was actually well-written
I'll never understand gays like this. Just completely useless idiots. He probably spends hundreds of dollars on streaming services and wonders why there's nothing good to watch.
He's right. Hollywood was always woke to an extent but the writing wasn't as bad so people didn't care as much.
>we were always at war with eastasia.
You mean the topics coopted and cranked to 17 by wokeness existed before wokeness?
>Hollywood was always woke to an extent
I'll never understand gays like this, either. They fail to understand what woke actually refers to, so they just apply it to any instance of progressive thinking. Protestants marrying Christians isnt woke. The first interracial kiss on television isn't woke. Conversely, enforcing a state of constant black male/white female relationships in media is woke. Forcing trannies everywhere is woke. Adding new symbols on the pride flag is woke. Adding more letters into the LGB sphere is woke. Modifying the handicapped symbol to change it to a human figure in a wheelchair going at incredibly high speeds is woke.
>The first interracial kiss on television isn't woke
stopped reading right there
He's right and you know, homosexual
You forgot
>putting israelites in a positive light
>character owns a cat and is unmarried
Can’t think of how many millennials are also cat gays
Zoomer slop will be even worse. Prepare yourself.
Sheeeeeeesh
>the big cgi monster roars in the main character's face
>"whoaaa dude say it, don't spray it"
>"Sorry for my breath! I don't get any dental plan working for the Dark Lord! We can't all be mister shiny hero with perfect teeth you know?!"
Gen X started the nihilistic hipster movement. It has been a disaster for media.
It can sorta kinda work if it's just MTV, and maybe The Simpsons. But then Family guy, Marvel, and every tv show and movie took after it. A bit like how The Daily Show was fine as it was, but then every single Talk Show became a Daily Show clone. If all you have is cynisms and irony, then you can't believe in anything. Ultimately nihilism is self-defeating.
you're right except they're not related to hipstershit
Whedon and Tarantino ruined movies, then James Gunn and Nolan came along and took a shit on the corpse of movies. These people are the pillars that the entire movie industry is based on. Snappy unfunny dialogue that idiots think is well written, witty and ''realistic.'' Nolan differs a little because his work is supposed to be serious, but it's that same style and it's unintentionally funny so it might as well be Whedon style quips.
I rewatched some old movies recently like the original Planet of the Apes and it just made me depressed. Seeing a movie with actual good dialogue where the writer takes it seriously. The dialogue is actually realistic and flows nicely, no out of place jokes and the few jokes that are there fit naturally and are something that the character would say. Like when one of the apes tells George that he looks somehow less intelligent after shaving. If that movie was made today George would look at the camera and go ''UMMM that just happened!'' and the ape would go ''SHUCKS NOW I'VE MADE IT AWKWARD!'' and someone would get kicked in the balls.
Cinema is dead.
Whedon's Gen-X and he kind of ruined dialogue. It originally started with Buffy and the whole joke was ditzy Valley girls fighting serious threats so that's why they talked like that. Scream picks up the self-aware irony. Firefly was HUGE with b***hes and spread the virus. The final nail was Avengers which meant it so that EVERYONE is trying to copy Marvel quips now if they want $$$.
It’s fun to watch. They did Whedon dirty after decades of going along with those shows.
>Whedon's Gen-X and he kind of ruined dialogue.
Poetry
This is why every remake of a classic is so soulless like the new Jurassic Park movies. It's like after every line the character is barely resisting the urge to look straight into the camera and say
>OH YEAH, I SO WENT THERE
Nolan is the only popular modern example of rationalist cinema, so I'm not sure why you think he deserves your vitriol.
>rationalist cinema
That should be a word. Kurosawa is in a similar mold. Not that they have exactly similar film styles, but there's no irony, winking at the audience, no weird surrealist or unexplainable elements. Their worlds are explainable, understandale, rational.
>Their worlds are explainable, understandale, rational
oh yeah?
rationalize the opening of TDK to me then. go ahead, I'll wait.
I can't.
I can't rationalise the idea of shooting a man before throwing him out of a plane.
>TDK
idiot
idk I don't watch children's movies
you are so fricking stupid your brain looks like an uncooked chicken breast
that's nice mr superhero expert
Michael Mann is another good example of that tradition of filmmaking.
reddit is the word you are looking for
>Nolan, Kurosawa, Mann = reddit
>Gunn, Whedon, Russos, Gerwig = Cinemaphile
woah
In a gadda da vida, honey
>Cinemaphile is now Whedonesque
So... that just happened
Nolan has the worst written dialogue out of any mainstream movie, worse than Marvel shit, worse than the worst reviewed episode of Buffy.
It takes the weird Whedon type of quippy dialogue, but removes the attempted humor and replaced it with attempted clever wit. Nolan movies have Whedon style of dialogue but it's robotic and pretentious. The reading of the lines is just insane, there is no improvisation or rewrite of the script to make it sound more natural and flow better, Nolan will not allow any deviation from the script and only allows a couple of takes. All the dialogue is read exactly how it's written. If a character cuts off another character the script just has the cut in that line so the actor doesn't have a natural place to get cut off by the other actor, they'll just read a line that abruptly ends and there's going to be a second of awkward silence as the other actor realizes this is the line where he is supposed to cut off the other guy with his quip.
Nolan tries the unfunny quips but he is devoid of any humor so the quips are are just stiff and too literal, like that line where Bane says something along the lines ''Did you come to watch the city burn?'' and Batman replies with his epic quip ''No, I didn't'' that's played off like he said the most badass shit ever.
Nolan is like an autistic kid trying to imitate Joss Whedon. He is extremely amateurish and incompetent. The only time his dialogue worked was with the Joker because the weird robotic style added to his character and made it seem like he had these terrible cringy lines memorized and ready to go. They just don't make sense the way Nolan writes them and the responses come off as non-sequiturs a lot of time.
Wow, I love Nolan dialogue now.
who the frick thinks tarantino's dialogue is realistic? it's too perfected
>constant out of place swearing
As a millennial, I grew up laughing at South Park for swearing. I was a child when it started.
>disrupting emotional moments with attempts at humor
Entirely the fault of Joss Whedon.
>"what if mildly awkward everyday scenario actually happened in media?"
So Mr. Bean is now a millennial?
>fetishization of gruesome over the top violence that's disconnected from the rest of the narrative
Quentin Tarantino is now a millennial?
>outdated pop culture references
How very Pynchonian
>attempts at tackling topical social issues that don't actually take a stance or ends up being contradicted later
The hallmark of out-of-touch, sheltered liberals in Hollywood, has nothing to do with millennials as a generation
>characters being used as avatars for the writers to have lengthy monologues about their personal issues
An idea as old as art itself, I can name examples of this from centuries ago
Everything is new for the vast majority of people in Cinemaphile
>fetishization of over the top gruesome violence
literally my writing
israeli media becomes much more bareable once you realize everything should be viewed as from an unreliable narrator; because it is from one.
the appropiation of nerd culture by normies is what ruined movies same with political correctness. it's not actual nerd culture mind you but like a chick wearing a graphic T and nerd glasses. the issue with writing is essentially a lack of authentic individualism
of gruesome over the top violence that's disconnected from the rest of the narrative
pop culture references
these two are clearly Tarantino things, a xoomer
I'm a millennial and I write for fun. A lot of these are true and I try to avoid them. I have some 'tism that makes me want to be as original as possible and constant cursing with pop culture references is just too cliche these days.
I'm a bawd for excessive extreme violence and depravity though. I wrote one book that was basically just an excuse for me to be able to come up with the most fricked up gory violence imaginable, and somehow 100 people ended up buying copies. Hire me, hollywood.
>100 people ended up buying copies.
unironically, that's based
you are legitimately an author, moron-kun
i am going to be like you
>he actually, honest to god made it
As a millennial, I no longer have an excuse.
im also a millennial
I already have the book laid out, and a great title
if I sell 100 copies I will count myself successful since I am writing in a language only 10 million people know
I'll do you one better, I'm writing in Finnish so it's only half of that
go ahead and do it, pekka-kun, I'm just across östersjön from you
and please remember, only one tablet of bervitin before an all-nighter at the typewriter
How did you know I own a manual typewriter?!
well i certainly dont have a camera in your home, thats for sure
Pervitin will grant you speed of the gods.
zoom zoom
What publisher?
almost certainly self published
who gives a frick about israelite publishers in this day and age lol
Antelope Hill
How will zoomer writing look like?
GTA stunt compilations next to the quippy lines
alternatively Subway Surfers
>So... THAT just happened...
>ooh... AWK-WARD!
>Boomer writers
>Legitimately well-educated in the arts
>Wish they were moronic
Millenials and Zoomers are creatively worthless, I cant think of anything worthwhile they've come up.
that sounds like late Gen X. early millennials were around for 2008 and OWS to turn them into hipsters
Isn't it funny how before the 2016 election (aka The Year the Internet Turned to Shit) barely anyone talked about generations but now it's all this site talks about. Boomers this, gen x that, millennials this, zoomers that, people debating birth year boundaries, people insulting each other over their "generation" being less cringe than the other, etc.
Younger millennials who didn't grow up in 1990's don't have anything special about them. They're pretty much proto-zoomers who hate this fact so they make up arbitrary differences to make themselves special. It's why people are now pretending the shitty 2000's was actually great and now a complete shit show.
That's the thing I'm talking about. Before 2016 nobody on this board said "older millennials" or "younger millennials" or "proto-zoomers", they said "people who grew up in the 90s" and "people who grew up in the 2000s". Nobody used generation meme terms pre-2016.
No way. Before the whole boomer/zoomer meme people were constantly b***hing about the "fricking millennials". Then when you asked them their age they were always born around 1990 and thought a millennial is someone born in the 00s. Those were the days.
Yeah but those were like 15% of total posts here. Post-2018 the zoomer mentioning is like 85% of this site's posts.
>"what if mildly awkward everyday scenario actually happened in media?"
This is good though. I'd love to see a film where it wasn't obvious that everyone was working off a script. Where people sometimes fumble for words, don't have the perfect clapback, not everyone waits patiently for the other to finish speaking and sometimes things just happen.
>not everyone waits patiently for the other to finish speaking
Citizen Kane must've been mindblowing for audiences back in the day for doing this
was it the first one that did that?
I don't know but it's the oldest one I can think of. Probably not.
Manchester by the Sea is exactly that
>disrupting emotional moments with attempts at humor
F.R.I.E.N.D.S always did this.
Ill do you better
>Kids talk like adults and sneak in casual topical(mostly american) social political rants, serving as a mouthpiece to the twitter minded morons who write the show.
Ted Lasso does this and muchmore
>Kids talk like adults and sneak in casual topical(mostly american) social political rants, serving as a mouthpiece to the twitter minded morons who write the show.
Simpsons did it, Simpsons did it!
Ye, that's why no one ever liked Lisa-centric episodes
>Ted Lasso does this
This really pissed me off. Yeah Ted Lasso did this shit in season 1 & 2, but they had at least SOME subtly and enjoyable characters built around The Message. Season 3 lost all pretense of being about anything BUT the message. You can tell there was some butthole writer that was brought on in season 3 pushing for it.
Millennials are in a shitty spot for a variety of reasons when it comes to writing. Nepotism is worse now than it ever has been. You can't even get into a lot of the programs that act as a pipeline unless you're a minority or went to a prestigious college. If you're an amateur just trying to get noticed its nearly impossible just because of the sheer volume of stuff on the internet.
I was going to apply to DC comics program to find new talent and they were only accepting minorities and ivy league graduates. Which is insulting because I have a bachelors degree and have had 2 books published an the comic book industry is in the mud but they still think they're too good for me
You should've just said you were gay
Look no further than Nolanshit for the Millennial bible. Nolan (already a midwit himself) spawned an entire generation of 35 year old morons who think TDK was the defining work of the 21st century and try to emulate it at every opportunity.
It's funny how Gen X doesn't get blamed for anything because people don't want to say the words "Gen X" for some reason.
Like when it's 80s nostalgia, they're called boomers ("Some day Gen Z will look at the 2010s like how boomers love 80s goyslop"). And when it's MCU writing, they're called Millennials ("Millennials like Whedon started this quippy shit").
I don't get how millennials are blamed for anything. There's barely even been any famous millennial actors. We're pretty much a skipped generation in the entertainment industry.
Well people with money and power aren't going to blame themselves.
>There's barely even been any famous millennial actors.
Robert Pattinson
Jennifer Lawrence
Ezra Miller
Daniel Radcliffe
Adam Driver
Shia LaBeouf
I could keep going but you get the picture whats even more funny is what you guys consider to be "zoomer" actors I.E. actors in their mid twenties like Timothée Chalamet and Tom Holland are right on the fricking line. Every generation has actors Millennials didn't get skipped you just have a really narrow view the generational age brackets.
Cringe
Millennials did have big stars, the problem was that they've spent the past decade doing capeshit.
I get the feeling gen Z just bought so hard into the boomer vs zoomer meme that they genuinely don't realize millennials aren't the only generation in between the two.
Millennial and gen x are just different flavors of boomer at this point. Maybe things were different 15 years or so ago when they were young and interesting, but everyone in all three generations have already gone through the process of becoming their parents, and so they all act in a similar manner. Middle age gonna middle age I guess.
cope
Hey, f it makes you feel any better, everyone my age knows deep down that this dive into bitter mediocrity awaits us too. Give it 15 years and we'll be here b***hing about gen A the same way.
>Hey, f it makes you feel any better
somehow it doesnt
Well unfortunately that's all I can give you. Any other satisfaction you're gonna have to provide yourself
>Any other satisfaction you're gonna have to provide yourself
this is why i am bitter
>Millennial and gen x are just different flavors of boomer at this point.
smoothbrain
that rumpelstiltskin wearing glasses picture always makes me laugh, i know 3 dudes that look exactly like that
>story is or is encouraged to be an allegory for a minority identity
hate this trope
>social issues that don't actually take a stance
You're thinking of boomer writing. Millennial writing DEFINITELY takes a stance
>Multiverses
>Time Travel
we get it, you're an unsuccessful loser and you wish you could go back in time/go to a different universe and change it
Yawn
Well I liked Butterfly Effect back in the day
>Multiverse
It's the ultimate in lazy writing.
>DUDE WHAT IF ANYTHING COULD HAPPEN AT ANY TIME FOR ANY REASON
>TOTALLY ABSOLVING THE WRITER OF THE NEED FOR A COHERENT PLOT OR WORLD BUILDING
>WHILE MAKING THE VIEWERS FEEL SMART FOR WATCHING SOMETHING TANGENTIALLY RELATED TO LE SCIENCE
Hypothetically speaking of course.
Self hating white thread
high IQ post
message is some trite “there’s no meaning… that IS THE meaning!” platitude which is treated like some massive revelation
homosexual, you just saw this pop up in your youtube recommended list and posted it. get some original opinions and then delete yourself.
Ironically the video was made by a millenial seething at Gen X writing.
Do you not know what millennial means?Those are all gen x tropes, and Fortnite is a zoomer game.
explaining the jokes in a very annoying way trying to be intelligent
Goodfellas is to blame
Millennials had an extended childhood or never really left it. soi culture has allowed them to extend it. just look at somebody like Wil Wheaton.
wil wheaton is gen x. he only gets work because he knows too much about certain high profile people
>wil wheaton is gen x.
True but he's essentially a proto-Milennial so the other anon is also correct
>True but
>but
you lost, zoomie
I'd rather not look at him.
A complete inability produce genuine heartfelt art without irony poisoning or winks to the audience.
but they're breaking the 5th wall, that's so bad ass
Santa Inc.
The kvetching by Seth Rogen in response to review bombing was unreal. He even made a "take that, shabbos goy" video and posted it on YT.
>attempts at tackling topical social issues that don't actually take a stance or ends up being contradicted later
Season 33 finale of the simpsons and the episode of south park where the manbearpig kills satan comes to mind. Absolutely spineless episodes
>and the episode of south park
It's most 'topical' South Park episodes tbh. Half the problem with the show is that they're just trying to be the first to comment on something, but they usually don't actually have much of a defined stance, so it just tapers off into a non-committal nothingness, usually just a dumb farce where people fight
If you look at the showrunners and most writers on big tv shows, most of them are still gen X with some older millenials here and there
Are there people on Cinemaphile who aren't gen z or millennials
>ITT I was born in le wrong generation
You described Helluva Boss
For me it’s the casual or anachronistic dialogue that yanks you out of the moment.
It’s hard to put my finger on but basically it’s anywhere language should have a touch of poetry root and instead they’re talking like an American High schooler at lunch.
Obviously they weren't speaking proper modern english in 11th century Britain, but they at least tried to sound dignified and an approximation of their status. But now they try to make all the cast sound hip and cool by modern standards, so quips and snarkiness which is totally out of place. Wildly ridiculous with some of the recent films set in the 20's where they spoke understandable modern English just differently without any modern slang.
Those two 20's iflms that bombed last year are a good example.
Babylon and Amsterdam were both terrible.
I couldn't even remember their names off hand and hadn't seen either so they just blur together. Oh yeah 1920's, that's what the kids want right? I saw some people posting dialogue from one of them and it was all snappy ironic modern speak that just feels out of place.
"Any of you incel, Q-anon, Cinemaphile, Snyder cut motherfrickers wanna get out of line now?!"
This is gen x writing to a t
>clerks
>joss whedon
>dan harmon
>tarantino
None of these are millennials. Don't get me wrong, millennial output is trash, but you are barking up the wrong shitpile.
Bo Burnham's inside is very millennial. Much whinging covered up by cleverness without a shred of absolution.
Another hallmark of millennial writing is making multi-hour YouTube videos.
Why [-] Is Actually (Better/Worse)* Than You Remember | Video Essay
*delete as appropriate
THE RISE, FALL.... AND RISE AGAIN OF COLGATE
*royalty free low-fi starts playing*
Don’t forget you always have to take up most of the screen time in a video as the ‘host’. As if they’re more interesting than the actual topic. I’ve had to make an unspoken rule that if the person or their avatar is prominent on the thumbnail that it’s best to avoid it. There’s a few exceptions but it’s working well in avoiding homosexualry.
Why do they need "avatars" on screen anyway? Just some gay little cartoon (often a furry) standing in the corner flipping between different poses
Complete cancer
This is what pissed me off so much about BBC travel documentaries. Instead of letting the locals talk, it just comes off as the host wanting to show off how well travelled they are while whoever they're talking to can only chuckle politely.
>YouTubers always making 8 hour videos on a topic
>see themselves as groundbreaking documentary makers
>turns out it’s just common basic b***h points or stuff already known
Also yeah what you said about the problem of ‘YOU DONT KNOW/YOU SHOULD DO THIS/WHAT REALLY HAPPENED/etc’ like there’s some great lying conspiracy of secret knowledge they uncovered. Not like they’re only saying that to make you adopt their own viewpoints with individual out-of-context points.
Never trust them. Period.
>meanwhile zoomer videos:
AEEUEEUEURRRRR ARRURHRHRRH *overbaked screaming sounds*
>two annoying guys being buttholes to each other for 15 seconds
>cap? no cap bussin fr
I'm okay with fascism if it eliminates these tech illiterate and media illiterate morons off the face of the planet first
Well yes I never said Max0r’s autism was better. Considering most ‘facists’ I’ve seen are also zoomers good fricking luck. Look at any of their shitty fashwave webms with buzzy, blurry visuals and crappy distorted techno-rap music and abandon hope for that
You get into a creative writing professional track since you love telling stories
You are bombarded by the cultural zeitgeist that demands you swear undying fealty to whoever is willing to deal with this month's apocalyptic, world shattering event
You end up in a committee writing what you think the committee is going to want to hear
Thusly, you write self depreciation, you write out of place quips, you write knowing winks, you write totally transparent political messaging; you are guilty of caring about something unnecessary, that is, writing
It must be a terrible mindset to live with
Those one writer-director-auteur shows still manage to be good, and interviews with those guys always makes them seem like autists committed to the story they want to tell above all else
Type one are corporate compliant idiots who want to fit in and follow the herd. Mostly men. Type 2 are obsessives who are mostly men. There's very few type 2 women.
Irony is just a shield for nihilism and cynisism. It's to both deflect criticism and to ensure that even your story isn't being serious. "huh. heroic people? Totally silly am i right?" because their inherent nihilism prevents them from having ideals. And simple fairy tale or heroic morality seems so quaint and stupid to them they have to attack it even if they're writing it.
Dumb esl poster
The problem is a lack of sincerity. Irony is a poison that kills all sincere expression in our culture and society.
t. suicidal lobster rights activist
>be me
>sincerity enjoyer
>irony disliker
>post modernism despiser
>wear an inexplicable head band at all times, daring anyone to question it's sincerity
Nobody can handle criticism anymore. You criticize someone for anything and they just ignore it and attack the person critical of them.
Joss Whedon and Kevin Smith are Gen X though
Millennial writing is making a boring video essay that takes forever to say nothing
I for one enjoy 7-hour recaps of Morrowind quests
Any show that takes place in a university or academy of sorts. Like Wednesday. Millennial writers spent forever in school and went straight to writers rooms so it's all they know.
>constant out of place swearing
Gen X/Elder Millennial
>disrupting emotional moments with attempts at humor
Whedon, so Gen X again
>"what if mildly awkward everyday scenario actually happened in media?"
I don't get this. Cringe comedy and awkwardness has existed since the 1920s in moving pictures.
>fetishization of gruesome over the top violence that's disconnected from the rest of the narrative
Can you point out some hyperviolence that's disconnected from the narrative? Cause hyperviolence predates moving pictures entirely so I feel like you just made up the "disconnected from the narrative" bit to sound smart.
>outdated pop culture references
All pop culture references are outdated by the time they're written. By the time they're spoken and recorded they've become artifacts.
>attempts at tackling topical social issues that don't actually take a stance or ends up being contradicted later
I remember a scene from NYPD Blue Andy Sipowicz is talking about how 'hood brothers' should be racially profiled because he's never had a white guy randomly pull a gun on him.
He ends up racially profiling a black guy, lo and behold, dude has a gun.
Black Guy says he's carrying a gun because a white guy has been walking around a black neighborhood threatening to shoot and kill Black folk, so he bought an illegal gun for protection.
Later in the episode Andy sees a white guy and profiles him; turns out it was the white guy terrorizer who pulls a gun the moment Andy mentions he's police.
So, again, tale as old as time.
>characters being used as avatars for the writers to have lengthy monologues about their personal issues
You're going to say that a monologuing self-insert is a fricking millennial invention? I guess you'll ignore the Grave Diggers from Shakespeare? Mr. Beech? Inspector Grams? The White Lady of Apple Orchard? Jesus christ.
why are no movies funny any more bros
Oh shit I didn't realize this was the Alex Kurtzman Star Trek thread
Alex is Gen X wut
the writers under him aren't
They mostly are.
I will never understand millennials who defend their own gen. I could see in the early 90's and early 2000's with the rise of ironic hipsters being everywhere and our dominant culture and no one being capable of being serious and the dominant form of comedy we liked was Tim and Eric that our generation was going to be shit. The media played a part in this in the early day running so many stories about how smart and savy millennials are. I hate my generation, we took the boomer woke football and ran with it and made it worse so frick any of you that has misguided pride in this generation
Have you seen what came after? Not that hard to understand. Maybe you could make an argument that Gen Alpha is looking to have a brighter future, but zoomers?
See and this another reason our gen is shit. You can't have a discussion with them. Every response is "oh yea whatabout....." and constant deflections. Frick off zoomers being bad doesn't change how shit we are.
It kind of does. But I will agree that I prefer older generations. I actually never bought into the "boomers are moronic" in the same way zoomers did, if for the mere fact that I myself realize how moronic I was when I was younger and thought I knew everything.
>But I will agree that I prefer older generations
That was not my point at all lol.
My point is our gen is utter shit regardless of past and future gens and what they did or done.
If you think an entire generation is based around what city slickers do, then yeah.
>what city slickers do
Kek you realize hipsters aka the worst of our gen were transplants from the Midwest looking for the hustle and bustle of the city right? Moving to parts of NY and LA and Portland gentrifying places. Those weren't city folk
You fricking hicks are like 20% of the population you literally don't matter at all.
>1 man in a city of 20 million
>"you dumb hicks are irrelevant and don't matter at all lol"
>*gets stabbed by Black folk*
Say that to my face fricker not online and see what happens.
You'd sputter out some b***h response at me and I'd just frickinf shoot you and get away with it because your backwoods worthless town doesn't have a single braincel in the police department to put it together.
Everyone's scared to get canceled so everything has to be safe, and this is what's safe.
of gruesome over the top violence that's disconnected from the rest of the narrative
that's more of a sjw feature than anything else, it reveals what they are really inside
Has anyone ITT brought up the constant parental issues? It’s crazy how a whole generation’s identity and sexuality has been defined just because their parents forced them to pull away from globohomosexual once a week to attend church for an hour
lol millennials didn't go to church, not even for an hour.
Yea our gen was the first real frick religion gen. Gen x did it mostly in quiet.
Oh look it’s the homos who only became homos because it gave them a personality and pissed their religious parents off
My family hasn't had a single religious person in it for four generations and only one homosexual that I know of. Your persecution complex is pathetic.
>Family isn’t religious
>Anon is a homosexual
Kek
Ebin
a lot of boomers really stopped attending church in the 80's and 90's anyway, the last overwhelmingly churchgoing generation was the greatest generation.
You’ll say this and then go on Reddit later crying about Christian nationalism kt8xhd
wtf bro I was literally an altar boy in two different churches. one was a smaller church where it was all about our local community but then my parents decided to join a mega church and I went from altar boy to choir and then the church asked me to join the rock band since I played guitar.
I'm from Arizona where it's either catholics or mormons and I'm barely in my 30s, wtf is this? you want to be right so badly, what you should be doing is putting your nose to the good book and shutting the frick up.
I was generalizing you dumb frick.
Nah, you were trying to be right at all costs, get the frick off the internet and get to work on your local community. Do you even volunteer with your church group?
I lead a musical workshop and my wife is in the choir, do yourself a favor and stop trying to "save" anyone here and then do us a favor, have a nice day homosexual.
>nuh uh that's not generally true about X because I personally did this and this and this
that's like some troony nonsense man
Who are you quoting? Imagine not having an argument and devolving into a reddit argument like that.... seriously, at this point just rope yourself and join all the other morons that have trannies live in their heads rent free 24/7. This will be my last reply, I've got a class to teach, you know something productive for society?
God loves you anon, have a nice day.
just take the L and go teach your kids how to be better trannies mr. catholicstein.
Oh look, it's the Christian persecution complex!
What’s funny is there is a guarantee the same backlash will happen with Gen Alpha or Beta towards all this Pride stuff. Having to be pulled away from TikTok to go watch homos dance and read books is their version of being dragged to church
I only saw this being an issue with deviantart edgelords and internet atheists, and both groups imploded from reaching critical cringe years ago
I've seen this more with zoomers. I play some online games with Cinemaphile morons and these sub-humans have the same exact story. Every single moron from here is a leftist zoomer who explains why they became a leftist by saying they had overly religious parents. When proded on what they mean by overly religious parents, every single one of them says that they were taken to church a couple of times and that one time their mom told them that their clothes were too revealing or asked them about some concerning behavior. These zoomers will turn on their parents and go full leftist LGBTPPPPP+ over the most petty shit. Another extremely common theme with these people is how they will go off on sex education and how school didn't educate them on sex. When proded on what they mean by that they say that they had sex education but it only taught them basics of how it works and how to protect themselves from STDs and unwanted pregnancies.
The zoomers are just an insane breed of ''people.'' They just don't make any sense. These people are ready to destroy the world because daddy told them the satan shirt was cringe and teacher didn't teach them anal fisting.
It's simple. These people were public schooled and probably had parents that didn't give a shit about them other than portraying surface level Christianity to them in the least loving way possible. Add in unrestricted internet access and you're basically begging your children to become troonys.
When you see what these people are like you understand their parents. These ''people'' are unlovable. There's something in the water and the public schooling that fricked them up so hard that their parents can't even pretend to love them.
When you actually listen to their stories you quickly find out that it's all bullshit. They don't come from religious homes, their parents never forced their religion on them. It's fiction. I've heard these stories thousands of times and not one of them has a story of actually being forced to do anything. These people just go crazy at the age of 12 and the parents can't do anything about it, their kid is just gone and replaced with a freak who will perceive everything as a microaggression and filter it through critical theory.
>portraying surface level Christianity to them in the least loving way possible
Many such cases. Lots of schizo boomer parents (think proto Q boomers) fricking their kids up by treating them at best like a fellow inmate on the prison camp of earth which is watched at all times by God almighty. I knew a kid whose parents found his Resident Evil game and where like OMG ITS LE EVIL IT EVEN SAYS SO RIGHT ON THE DISK and had to have a borderline exorcism performed right there. They also claimed to have a seen an alien in their house, which was proof of demons, because aliens actually are demons. These were grown middle class adults with jobs and cars and everything.
lmao I remember my cousin got one of my his n64 games taken away cause it had a black guy on there with the word voodoo in the name
lmao how are we still having satanic panic at this point in time? religious morons are holding us back like the dark ages all over again
There are definitely things worth panicking over but schizo boomers always pick the dumbest shit ever. Another friends dad told him not to play red alert because it's made by communist japs (or something) that would embed secret messages that say "DONT DO YOUR HOMEWORK" n shit.
We need to stop treating younger gens like royalty. This is what fricked millennials up badly and is fricking zoomers up. We need to be able to put kids in their place, beat them if needed they should have no power against you. Today you discipline your kid they can go on tiktok and ruin your life and it might take them years to understand why that's wrong. The parent-child dynamics are really fricked up
You're such a shit parent it's actually hilarious. Beating kids has never worked it just makes them even more of an butthole.
My kids are well behaved and I occasionally smacked them. Not many times ~5 times but it worked they stopped.
This is made up nonsense. If you look at the evidence the generations that beat their kids turned out better.
People say beating kids doesn't work like it's a proven fact because it sounds like it should be the right thing, but all the evidence shows that every generation is worse than the last.
The beatings would be useful for the simple fact that many zoomers should just be killed. The worst generation in existence needs a culling. Let people smack zoomers until most of them die.
Your parents should have beat you some more. Maybe you wouldn’t have turned into a literal wienersucking homosexual
>orthobro attempt #2303 to make not going to church seem lame
Rather go to church than attend state sponsored globohomosexual while pretending I’m enlightened
Their composition is far more determined by their lack of a strong father figure than anything else.
meant to quote
What is zoomer writing like?
Whatever's on tiktok
who cares this thread is about millennials don't deflect
Kind of relevant since they're next and you all hate millennials so much. Surely it's much better?
>Kind of relevant
No it's not. Every time there is a millennial criticism post there is an anon trying to deflect to zoomers. Millennials are incredibly narcissistic and IMO are going to end up being worse then boomers when it's all said and done.
I'm not the guy deflecting I just want to know actual examples of zoomer writing.
So go make a similar thread about zoomers.
Sounds like zoomer writing to me