would 12 Angry Women work?
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would 12 Angry Women work?
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i honestly cannot fathom a worse idea. I'm also deeply misogynistic.
No, because 11 women would never agree with each other on anything.
Of course it could work, but a critical view of the flaws women fall into in society would cause catastrophic seethe. Agency just isn't a feminine trait.
they'd put the kid on death row for looking like an incel
The reason why 12 angry men works is because it makes sense historically, you couldn't preserve the time of the movie without sacrificing realness and you couldn't adapt it in a modern setting without a) having everyone go apeshit because muh politics on each side and b) missing the point of the original movie
You would have to make the setting an alternate timeline akin to a matriarchal dystopia/utopia to nit butcher it, but I could certainly see it if you do it that way
What was the point of the original movie? That the jury is meant to do the job of the defense lawyer and over-analyze everything and even make their own assumptions that they can't know are right to the point where they let a murderer go free?
The point of the movie is about morals, not about the exact procedure of jury verdicts.
It's based on a play, which you can pretty clearly see in some scenes
The morality of letting a murderer go free is pretty clear cut to me
they would all just sit there quietly and ignore one another
>women
>quiet
No. Women are a hive mind because they're too scared of being ostracized to go against the grain. It could never work, they would just say the person is guilty.
the 12 angry men doesnt work really either. its well shot but the devil character, that broke the moral conviction of the group, wasnt shown to be a devil enough
Who? The guy who found the knife?
>He's... LE GUILTY.... why?
>Cause... HE LOOKS LE FUNNNY!
Could work but nobody would like it if it was portrayed as what jurors actually do all the time. Especially *hite *omen.
>The guy who found the knife?
yes, and i know you have to give some leeway, but it could have been done better
its a nice movie tho
didn't he present evidence from outside the trial? the number one thing a jury is supposed to not do
Yeah but basically the prosecutors lied.
I suppose it could have but I guess it was a leap of faith to get the ball rolling.
>The prosecutors lied
>The suspect owns the same kind of knife that the murder was committed with and conveniently "lost" the knife right after the murder, we also have two witnesses and his alibi is that he saw a movie and he can't remember the name of the movie or what theatre he saw it at so we can't go check with the clerk
>WELL THIS DOESN'T MATTER AT ALL BECAUSE I WAS ABLE TO FIND OUT THAT A SIMILAR KNIFE EXISTS, WE NEED TO FIND HIM NOT GUILTY
I remember some lawyer saying the defendant basically has to have been framed for all the evidence to be there without him being guilty
Juror instructions are hogwash intended to strip all independent thought from the process because the criminal justice system just wants to streamline it into a rubber stamping process. A trial only happens because the police, the DA and a judge have all agreed beforehand that the evidence shows the guilt of the defendant. Juror instructions are just there to give you blinders to keep you from looking beyond what they want you to see so you make the "right" decision that they have all agreed upon.
do you think bringing shit you found yourself is a good thing?
In 12 angry men it was relevant to the trial, so yes (it wasn't even exactly evidence in the strictest sense of the word really, he was just making a point that the knife wasn't as unique as it was said to be). You're a big boy, if you think it's shitty evidence you can come to that conclusion on your own without having a judge protecting you from it.
>You're a big boy,
what a strange insult
Henry Fonda's character should have immediately been thrown out of the jury for doing his own detective work and finding a similar knife on the street.
>Henry Fonda's character should have immediately been thrown out of the jury for doing his own detective work and finding a similar knife on the street.
Correct. 12 Angry Men is leftist bullshit. The guy was guilty and Henry Fonda committed juror misconduct.
"What verdict would get me the most social media clout? That's what I'm voting for."
Allowing women to serve on juries was a huge mistake.
>umm yeah I vote guilty because the Kardashians are coming on soon and I want to go home teehee
Dude, that's more or less the exact character of one of the angry men
the baseball dude right?
yee
The movie would be very short, they would be instantly convinced the shitskinrino couldn't have done it.
jury trials will become increasingly dysfunctional as more women and lower IQ individuals become jurors. emotional thinking will dominate cold logic. the identity of the victim and the accused will become paramount.
Jury trials as the currently exist are utterly insane. The attorneys literally pick the least qualified, most incompetent people they can find to determine your fate.
There's a local college that did a production 12 angry men called 13 angry jurors and the whole play fell flat. They made 8 a chick(8 is the one that stops the jury fron convicting immediately), which is a huge problem because he has to come across as honest and genuinely concerned while having a strength of character. This chick played it like a b***h dyke that was above everyone. Basically, everyone that was responsible was cast female and the rest were dudes, but it was just shitty. It was college actors, but I think it goes to show that gender is an important aspect of a character, it's like that one-act where they gender swap trump and clinton and have them say the exact same words as their debate and the dude comes off as a slinky greasy snake while the chick is a huge b***h that needs to get fricked.
>Women coming to a consensus using logic
Good luck.
wouldn't that just be 12 woman
No, women would all just vote based on how attractive the guy was.
Absolutely not. Women cannot understand justice or a concept like the presumption of innocence.
they pardon a murderer because he cute
I would be for it for the memes.
wont watch it though