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Nah, that show is gay.
Fippy bippy it's a soi show that conditioned an entire generation into thinking that crying over your problems solves everything.
Fpbp, frick the only reason why it got so many seasons is because the creator is a israeli women that uses pronouns, that’s like 3 checks on the ESG/Goyslop list for approval
No. You ruined the ending and I have no interest in getting strung along with more FILLER townie episodes to get a rushed conclusion
Homophobic conservative CN studio execs ruined the ending. Rebecca Sugar nothing wrong.
>Rebecca Sugar nothing wrong.
>endless townie filler
>barely ever developed or fleshed out other's POV or shown past glimses of what Homeworld was like, only Steven's views and POV matters.
Nah.
Using Steven's POV as a framing device was a deliberate choice on Sugar's part. You can't exactly use that as an aspect to shit on when it it still allowed us to learn plenty about the different Homeworld Eras and how various main characters were affected by the war and PD's choices.
I won't defend the later Townie episodes, though. Those were definitely a downgrade from Frybo and Lars and the Cool Kids.
Sugar has no choice but to use Steven's POV. It's the only POV she has access to.
>You can't exactly use that as an aspect to shit on
Oh yes you absolutely can, they absolutely sucked, it was in the end most about the townie rather than Steven, Rose and the Crystal gems, it was garbage and yes a lot of filler.
>Homophobic conservative CN studio execs ruined the ending.
*taps the sign*
People still use the term filler in the year of our lord 2024. What the frick.
Unironically, what do you want to call the townie episodes? I pointed and cheered when Uncle Grandpa said "Swat Kats", but I didn't feel any closer to the characters.
>word trigger my autism, word bad
It was filler
I stopped halfway through Season 4. 4 years of filler.
Sure, it doesn't necessarily have to follow Steven. Just make an anthology series or some specials.
The ending is rushed but I'd hardly call it bad, especially given the circumstances they had to work with. Yeah there could've been less townie episodes but that's hardly enough of an issue considering I'm pretty sure the final arc was supposed to be like 3-4 times as long. If you want an ending that actually ruined a show, look at Star VS The Forces of Evil.
You already wrote more than enough townie filler Sugar.
It would be better off without her involvement, I feel like the only true way of reviving it would be for whoever's in charge of that to be more detached from the project emotionally
That and a soft-reboot
I thought you loved townie filler.
Sugar was involved in basically all of the actually decent parts of SU, it's when she took her hands off of the show that townie filler shit happened. She basically gave way too much fricking control to her boarders and they just wanted to do mundane human slice of life shit, go check the credits on those townie episodes and the only ones she has any involvement in are the ones that end up feeding into the plot or actually involving the Crystal Gems in some way.
Instead of townie filler she gave us DEI slop
Considering what the frick happened with Zuke I can buy this. But even if that's the case I still wouldn't care for a revival cause I don't trust her as leader at this point. I lover her work, too bad she doesn't have a backbone to draw lines in the sand.
Yeah I agree, just clarifying that she personally wasn't responsible for the townie shit. She was just a weak-ass leader that failed to ever put her foot down and basically let her boarders hijack her own show. She's responsible for it in the sense that she let it happen, but the townie episodes weren't her ideas or even general vision of the show.
She was always too defensive of townie shit for it not to be her idea. Characters like Lars and Sadie were her OCs back in college, she wanted to make episodes about those freaks. So she has more responsibility than you assume.
The episodes she worked on with Lars and Sadie actually involved the overall plot or incorporated the Crystal Gems though, like the one with the living moss almost killing the cool kids. She was complicit for the strict townie shit episodes but again they weren't her direct idea.
She always said she wanted to make funny episodes alongside dramatic ones as she always was inspired by comedy cartoons growing up, so I think she did want those. I refuse to believe any storyboard artist wanted to do a Ronaldo or Onion episode, the lead writers and Sugar forced that
Onion Gang was literally just a practice exercise in writing a Craig of the Creek episode, the boarders Sugar had were clinically moronic anon.
That's not how it works anon
1. There were no "lead writers" in SU, the boarders were the writers of their own episodes. It's actually a big reason that the show was such a fricking mess.
2. They absolutely did want to make Ronaldo and Onion episodes because they were basically allowed free reign on any non-plot episode. Some of the most hated episodes in the entire series like Onion Gang and Rocknaldo came about from the boarders wanting to make more slice of life driven episodes.
Lot of people love coming up with wild head canons for why SU came out as unevenly as it did. Like the studio randomly decided something or production issues must be the reason they made so many shitty coffee shop fanfic episodes. Or a character got written a certain way because of network censorship... and the real answer is that SU was a show being made by a bunch of narcissistic tumblr kids who were all constantly pitching a shitfit and trying to change the show to be what they wanted it to be, instead of what Sugar wanted it to be (though she didn't really know either because she's also a moronic tumblr kid)
>There were no "lead writers" in SU, the boarders were the writers of their own episodes
Yes, there were lead writers. They wrote the outline for every fricking episode, it was the board artists who had to do the dialogue and interactions. But the main story beats? That was always done by a writer. That's how storyboard lead shows work, they don't just give storyboards free reign to do whatever, they still need to follow the outline for an episode given by a writer.
So if you hate the townie episodes for the dialogue, yes, that's the storyboard artists fault. But if you hate that they even exist in the first place, that's the writers and showrunner problem, not the board artist.
>Some of the most hated episodes in the entire series like Onion Gang and Rocknaldo came about from the boarders wanting to make more slice of life driven episodes.
If you followed any of the storyboard artists you'd know they don't give a flying frick about townies and just liked the gems. They were all forced to write about those boring townies because Sugar and CN wanted episodes that can be replayed on air constantly. We'd have a shit ton more Lapis and Peridot episodes had they truly had free reign.
did anything ever come out of that rumour zuke started openly dating someone like the day they turned 18 and they moved in together or was that just someone bullshitting?
Sugar was all for townie episodes she wanted the humans to overshadow the gems. Originally the show was so supposed to be anti-escapism so focusing on the townies would exemplify this. The anti-escapism narrative shifted when Sugar realized that the townies treating the gems like normal people ignoring their oddities was a form of escapism from the minorities working on the show. In the end Sugar realized the people wanting to be special and going on adventures was the same as minorities wanting to be treated as normal and living an uneventful life and maybe escapism could be healthy.
Just because a leader is weak, doesn't suddenly mean they get to shrug off responsibility and pass it down to their subordinates. If she wants the credit for all the decent parts, she gets the blame for all the shit too. It was her show, she was in charge, and it was under her leadership that all the show's potential got squandered and turned into shit.
B-b-butt there are still so many Ronaldo stories to tell!
I dunno, I wanna see how they turned out.
>I dunno, I wanna see how they turned out.
Sadie matured, broke up with Shep, married a normal dude and had a kid.
>Sadie dates Shep for few years at most
>breaks up and marries a very standard white guy
>rides the queer label for all its worth, bringing it up into conversation especially every June
I can see it
I don't know why people have started suddenly pushing "CN screwed over SU it should've ran longer and had a mid final season" when it had a full run and it's the crew's fault if a season sucked.
It had a movie and a mini-series epilogue. The movie is OVA quality too, it wasn't just 5-6 episodes stitched together. If anything, the only thing CN was guilty of was hiatuses and spoiling the second episode in the bump that played after the first. CN gave you every opportunity to give them your money for SU.
if CN really wanted my money they should have done marketable plushie instead of nothing
fricking hell sell something that people would buy
Ben 10 is the last time CN put any effort into selling merch of their properties. I wonder why thet stopped caring.
Companies generally disregard toys for anything other than the big established IPs to save money and because kids like games instead of toys now
it was literally cancelled cause of the gay shit anon
>inb4 good
support free speech or die, commie scum
Oh so people like Steven Universe again?
the show was legit great for a while
It really wans't
the magical realism moments of season 1 were kino
t. moronic troony
it was and not even tr@ns
You're a troony in spirit
>posts tranime
Case in point
anime site, tough guy
Moot lost boomer-san.
And this is the Cinemaphile restroom of the anime site. Do you go to women restroom with a penis?
Anime site + westoid cartoons have a disproportionate amount of troony characters and troony creators
It was good for one season but the writers refused to ever pick up the pace. It's a show that tricked you into thinking it escalated to something but never really did. Most of the big twists and reveals after a certain point came out like wet farts rather than the impact they should have been.
Only the Peridot redemption arc was great and slices of early stuff that hinted at something greater. Everything else was either bad or mediocre
less than 20% of it was
It was a subversion of the adventure genre but it became aimless and later there were no stakes or reason to get invested... and also it was just gay. It becomes mostly gay once there was no clear direction forward.
The series lacks a real antagonist, everyone jokes about Steven being able to redeem even Hitler, so how about introducing a series long villain that cannot be redeemed because they are just incredibly selfish and self-aware of what they are doing but have no reason to stop because "minding others" realistically does not get you anything. The villian/s need to be very competent and not cartoonishly evil.
I was thinking a race that mines the crystal gems for power and set their sights of Earth implying humans would make good slaves and cattle.
>so how about introducing a series long villain that cannot be redeemed because they are just incredibly selfish and self-aware of what they are doing but have no reason to stop because "minding others" realistically does not get you anything. The villian/s need to be very competent and not cartoonishly evil.
Steven vs the Primagen and his goons from Turok 2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNDbpFHkdKo
What the hell is the giant hole in Russia from? How does organized religion feel about the alien space rocks? What alien races compete with the gems on a galactic level?
These are all questions a continuation would ignore to feature more crying homosexuals.
>These are all questions a continuation would ignore to feature more crying homosexuals.
Good. These are all fricking moronic and contribute nothing to this stupid parody of magical girl animes where the main character is an effeminate fat boy.
the only lore they care about is feelings and genders of lesbian space rocks, moron
>What the hell is the giant hole in Russia from?
>Sugar: I'm going to change the map a little to make it look like there is worldbuilding in this shit
>writer: so what is the lore behind it so I can write an ep...
>Sugar: LMAO NERD
No, it's painfully obvious that CN wants very little to do with the IP outside of licensing it for merch and streaming. I think part of that is due to SU's production being an absolute shitshow behind the scenes.
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>What the hell is the giant hole in Russia from?
A Gem weapon, it's either mentioned in an interview or the first art book.
>How does organized religion feel about the alien space rocks?
Rebecca mentioned in an interview that Abrahamic religions (basically Judaism, Christianity, Islam, and all of the offshoots that were born from those three) don't exist in the SU universe.
>What alien races compete with the gems on a galactic level?
Crossover wise think it'd be easier to list the amount of alien races that CAN'T compete with Gems on a galactic level.
In-universe wise that's already been handwaved with Sugar saying that Gems never encountered sapient life until they arrived on Earth. Yes, it's a massive cop-out considering that the Gem Empire includes locations in both the Milky Way and Andromeda galaxies.
>A Gem weapon, it's either mentioned in an interview or the first art book.
That's moronic, why are humans ok with gems after they used an apocalypse weapon on planet earth.
>inb4 cause its just russians hurr durr
100% it would most likely lead to a Watchmen type situation where earth unites against these satanic space dykes.
>In-universe wise that's already been handwaved with Sugar saying that Gems never encountered sapient life until they arrived on Earth.
Which makes absolutely no sense since the entire reason why they were on earth was to produce more soldiers even though they never had to deal with a civil war before.
stop looking for shit to get mad about pointlessly
you know what this show is
they aired this shit, its open to scrutiny, people are allowed to think a little further than just the basic first appearances, deal with it
Discussing a show flaws is fun and this show is 99% flaws.
People make shit up a lot when they "discuss flaws" and "scrutinize shows". It's like reading about people complaining 9/11 wasn't in Turning Red. 99% of the flaws are shitty nitpicks.
>People make shit up a lot when they "discuss flaws" and "scrutinize shows".
So? Just discuss the flaws and ignore the bullshit
>Abrahamic religions (basically Judaism, Christianity, Islam, and all of the offshoots that were born from those three) don't exist in the SU universe.
Wasn't there a character wearing a hijab in one episode?
You don't have to be religious to wear clothes
Fun fact: The hijab is more of a local tradition than a rule in Islam. It's meant to protect women from getting raped at night. I guess so you can't tell if you're raping some granny or a teenager.
So all that confirms is that rape very much exists in SU
Yeah Islam just says that women should dress modestly and for most of history veils really weren't that common in the Islamic world, they only really took off in the later half of the 20th Century due to growing Wahabi influence that played into anti-Western sentiments.
>Fun fact: The hijab is more of a local tradition than a rule in Islam
depends on how you interpret certain verses from the Quran and the Hadiths.
>Rebecca mentioned in an interview that Abrahamic religions (basically Judaism, Christianity, Islam, and all of the offshoots that were born from those three) don't exist in the SU universe
Of fricking course, and i bet she never tought of why.
D4DYY
That's why a reboot is needed. The crypto-sugar-simps here are trying to honor her ideas blindly and pretend that her woke slop was necessary for the show's quality
>That's why a reboot is needed.
Yes, because making another steven universe future where nothing but filler happens and she double down on all her previous mistakes will change anything.
Whoever worship her now will worship her no matter what, Sugarfans are just like Zack Snyder Cultists.
>Yes, because making another steven universe future where nothing but filler happens and she double down on all her previous mistakes will change anything.
I never said she'd be involved, and Zach Callison (Steven's voice actor) was directly involved in writing Future's plot. It's like you'd rather shoot up a convention than imagine SU without DEI
Pictured: One hit wonder wants to do more of what she became popular for
She wants to do more EE&E porn?
>Would you like to see a revival of Steven Universe
I didn't even want to see its vival the first time.
It was shit and barely airing even when it was still going.
Why continue something that was already shit and that'll be on endless hiatuses were it to ever come back anyway?
>complain about how remakes are always for something popular and successful
>now complaining about remaking something flawed that would benefit from a remake
Can't win with you people
>remaking something flawed that would benefit from a remake
That only works if the reboot is being done by someone more competent.
I'd want to see the CN executive tell Sugar to her face that she squandered every chance she had by treating her job like a sleepover.
Not if they keep doing the same shit, animation has evolved past this show’s usual nonsense.
If you center it around characters who were done dirty and had little screentime in the show, then maybe it can be worth it. But otherwise, frick off, I don’t need to see Steven’s b***h ass crying about some insecurity he has
The original was a mangled, brutalized, gorey mess of a show. why would a revitalization so soon after the original be any better?
Only if it was about Greg fricking all the Gems in the house while Steven is out of town.
>i cultivated the most autistic and prominent fandom on the internet and now i want them to "make some noise" to get my show back so it never ends
Only if it's gem focused like a Pearl's road trip around the world or something.
I would like to see Steven Universe erased from the collective memory of mankind.
Do I look like I want 30 threads about peridot fricking moron
We're already drowning in the cancer this show spawned with its "cultural influence," we don't need it back too.
I want Daily Wire to buy it off WB/Discovery and update it for modern audiences.
Look, I love SU but I think the show did all it had to do. There's nothing to develop or anything unless it's a reboot but that's too early for that, the show got a good run, 5 seasons, a movie and a sequel.
The only thing I would ask is an anthology book to go deeper in the worldbuilding of Homeworld and gems in general but that's it.
I feel the same way. Even though I'm aware there were some ideas and characters cut for time toward the end of the original series and Steven Universe Future, I'm still more than satisfied with the 180 episodes and movie we got. Sometimes less is more, but today's fans can't seem to wrap their heads around the concept of laying a beloved series to rest. I trust that Ian JQ and Rebecca Sugar have interesting ideas on how to approach a potential revival, but I would rather they pitch new shit instead. "The Future" felt like a perfect send-off.
Terrible fricking timeline
And what the frick's the black spots for? The show is over, just reveal what the frick was going on all those years ago. Fricking piece of shit writing.
>And what the frick's the black spots for? The show is over, just reveal what the frick was going on all those years ago. Fricking piece of shit writing.
I bet it's a lot of "not sure, some vague concepts, reference them loosely to imply figured out lore" and she just blocked it out lmao.
I always assumed it was stuff that would want to cover one day and didn't want to reveal it but who knows
Pissed me off when that page was revealed in what was supposed to be the final artbook. I expected to get full answers and leave fans with no major questions left to ask. I want the solace of knowing a show I love is over for good.
>Manage to track the sauce
>Private twitter account
Anon...catbox me, or something, please.
I agree with anon, I wonder if anyone has access to see the images and have them on Catbox or someplace
That's cowardly fricking shit
>oooh we might resolve it in the future, who knows
Over 100 episodes and they can't answer basic fricking shit, meanwhile cartoons with 50 episodes or less tell you the entire story of the world and main characters so the story can develop properly. Frick this noise.
>but today's fans can't seem to wrap their heads around the concept of laying a beloved series to rest.
It's also worth considering the value of leaving something open for the fandom itself to explore. Continuing anything after a long time necessitates the shutting off of some fantasy outlets that may have grown during that time. I know many people may see such things as frivolous, but we've all seen shows that "killed the mystery", so to speak (looking at you, Prometheus). That's a risk all reboots and continuations face.
That's a relief. This whole time I though PD hit P.Pearl.
Who's got the page on that one new Gem whose episode was scrapped because Future only had 20 episodes to work with? I would be ever so grateful
Yes because clearly 20 episodes was the problem, it’s not like they had a movie and 100 episodes before that to do that shit.
as someone who loves the OG show and Future, I'd rather it not be revived. It's good where it ended and I'm just burnt out with reboots in general
But the og show was shit.
That's like, your opinion, man.
Future did her dirty.
either give me uncensored gems who are allowed to be hot alien women, or don't fricking bother
I want to see more original IP but if anything's getting revived there are much better options than Steven Universe tbh
Still waiting on CN to finally fricking announce season 7 of Gumball
wtf i swear i wrote to be honest at the end of that first sentence why the frick did it become that
>newbie
Welcome to Cinemaphile you fricking newhomosexuals
That was a joke slowpoke
>Merely pretending
ok slowbro
>Merely pretending
>desu
The frick are you, an anime gurl?
>Gumball season
That and the movie its not canned btw funny how Gumball has way better lore (The Void)than this piece of shit and its only focused in 8 Eps and slightly referenced in other eps kek
no
no but a spinoff on the other hand
Frick that shit, this is the type of idea people want without thinking for an actual second.
Lars is an okay character, so being a space pirate and a lead character can't be any worse than the BS going on with Steven. But
>having the boring Off-Colors as the main cast
>having the boring Emerald as a recurring villain
>them travelling to space in a galaxy that has been pacified by Steven and the CGs, meaning he can't even engage on galactic fights against gems anymore like a space pirate
>show would just be about Lars insecurities the same way they did with Steven rather than actually cool adventures in space
Frick no.
>having the boring Off-Colors as the main cast
can get redesigned
>having the boring Emerald as a recurring villain
can work
>them travelling to space in a galaxy that has been pacified by Steven and the CGs, meaning he can't even engage on galactic fights against gems anymore like a space pirate
it can take place before that, they dont even need to fight gems some new ayyy
>show would just be about Lars insecurities the same way they did with Steven rather than actually cool adventures in space
it can be aimed at teenagers
>not knowing that pulp science fiction is the absolute best genere
we both know there'd be zero pulp in THAT glass of orange juice
>they really think Sugar would make a Guardians of the Galaxy like series
It would be 1/3 lars crying over not scoring, 1/3 the other gems crying over some dumb shit and 1/3 townie episodes.
how do you make townie episodes in space?
i mean it could be lik fionna and cake no bullshit, 12 episodes and thats it
>how do you make townie episodes in space?
Easy, make most of the show in the ship with the crew doing really inane shit.
>how do you make townie episodes in space?
She will simply make it, most will be about people somehow related to Lars
>i mean it could be lik fionna and cake no bullshit, 12 episodes and thats it
That's a lot of crying and townie filler
>can get redesigned
The design isn't the main issue (even if they do look lame), it's that the characters are nothing and I don't want to see them take the spotlight away when so many other characters would make better leads.
>can work
The effort you can put into making that nothing character work can go into developing better characters and storylines
>it can take place before that, they dont even need to fight gems some new ayyy
There's no new aliens as established by the very boring lore of this show, since the Diamonds purged every other planet in the galaxy of organic life. And if it's a prequel, then it's limited by the events of the series.
A Lars of the Stars show would not be pulp science fiction, I can tell you that much.
spinoffs often change things, there isnt anything that cant be shuffled around
a man can dream
>Pilot gives you the vibe that its about Lars traveling the galaxy as a space bounty hunter getting into all sorts of hijinks and seeing all sorts of creatrive planets and aliens as Lars slowly learns what it means to be a leader
>In reality 75% of the show is strictly on the ship and Lars is defanged of his negative traits early on
Thanks Sugar.
>MY NAME IS LARS BARRIGA
>AND I AM PROUD TO BE
>adventures of a pink moron
>his friends: rapist caterpillar, conjoined literally who, an actual moron
>vs a troony
sounds great
Unless it's Greg marathon fricking Pearl into a stupor then I don't give a shit.
Hhhot.
give the people what they want and have a new kid who is the child of a gem and a human WITHOUT passing the gem on, so they're just a lesser hybrid who still gets powers, just not as utterly broken as Steven-Fricking-Diamond's
this, i want a human-peridot kid that is interested in gem-tech. his power is to make gemtech work, thats it.
I absolutely love Steven Universe. It did everything I wanted it to do.
So Absolutely not.
>No Universe Far Future where it's like 50 years later and humans and gems have integrated to the point there's entire bloodlines of hybrids as both species immediately synthesize with one another to create paradise
A continuation is only acceptable if pregnant gems besides rose happen.
No way in hell is SU being revived.
Not unless there's a scene of Steven aiming a rifle at Pearl and telling her to get off his property.
But seriously, no.
SU is like my shit-stained shorts from the fifth grade. I'm not putting those on. No.
>Push out older generation of experienced animators because "it's our turn"
>Milk a single show for over a decade
>"May I have a reboot/revival?"
I'm not directing this towards Sugar specifically, but we live in the shortened time cycle her generation created. Turnabout is fair play. It's time for her to step aside and give someone new a chance. In fact, it may be even more prosperous for her to seek out new talent and slip into a producer role. Western companies have all but raised the white flag and begun diverting more resources to foreign players. It's time to move on from past glories and give us something different.
Only if it's made concurrently with my own work so the alien testosterone forces a real narrative instead of falling apart into Tumblr navel gazing
I would only accept this if Steven is made 18 and he comes back from his road trip coming out as attracted to men
>"I'm out of a job. Dance, puppets, dance!"
Have a bunch of right-wing writers write it and tell them to not check out the source material. We'll tell the fans it's a fresh new take. And if they don't like it then "it's not for you".
>Goes from being so popular on Cinemaphile that the season 1 finale had a sticky and /sug/ threads were almost always the most active threads on the entirety of Cinemaphile
>To everyone hoping it never comes back and feeling like the whole thing was just a massive disappointment and waste of time
Legitimately can't think of another show that had its reception swing this hard over the long-term. They really dropped the ball fricking hard huh?
Star Vs
Gravity Falls
Adventure Time
Horses
>Star Vs
It's deserved the turn that it had. The final season was unambiguously fumbled, causing basically all the goodwill the show built up to be lost by the finale. Wasn't just here, either. Tumblr and Twitter fans pretty much all acknowledged they thought the finale was a failure and everyone still thinks Nefcy's Reddit interview was a sad joke that did more harm than good. It's a shame too. I still think SVTFOE will have some longer impact on the industry in the long run, but it's now just a cautionary tale of how to fumble a great show by not knowing what direction you want to take it.
>Gravity Falls
Most of the seething comes from Hirsch being an annoying internet personality and people being mad he didn't make a third season of Gravity Falls.
>Adventure Time
I'd say most people still are fond of Adventure TIme. Fionna & Cake really picked up on this board and elsewhere too. Most of the rage comes from the gay ending.
>Horses
We don't talk about horse, no no no no
Not even Star vs and MLP ended up like that, both of those fandoms still think the early seasons of their shows were good, meanhile Steven Universe old fans now think even season 1 was garbage and the whole thing was only Sugar pretending there was lore, character development and worldbuilding when in the end she didn't plan shit but townie episodes.
Almost as if they've realized that SU was never good.
Literal shitshow made for tumblrinas that think that everything is fixed if you cry hard enough. Also, no boy actually liked this show even back when it was airing
The horse show had a strong director and direction of where the story must go early on, which was surprising in a show for little girls, even if it shit the bed later on when the writers started to simp for Twilight and introduced the Mary sue piece of shit Starlight Glimmer you can focus on the early seasons to enjoy.
>SU
only loser millennial women tumblrinas liked this show from the start, let's be honest, even back then kids found pathetic how much of a crybaby Steven was, also it shares the same mistakes from its cousin AT where the creator is an incompetent hack that let's their boarders do whatever they wanted, in other words nothing ever matters, although even AT didn't start to fizzle out after the first 2-3 seasons before it went "serialized", SU doesn't have that
I don't think it was a disappointment or a waste of time. I'm just tired of cartoons not being able to be definitively over.
Don't get it twisted. I love Steven Universe, I just don't feel we need any more of it.
Add Samurai Jack S5 and Filoni Wars to the list. Westoids just can't keep up the quality long-term.
I wouldn't hate another sequel, but I feel like there's been a sufficient story told. There's other stories that can be told or done and be successful (look at Fionna & Cake), but I think they'd have to be very intentional about it.
>Legitimately can't think of another show that had its reception swing this hard over the long-term.
Pretty much every major show from the 2010s I can think of experienced this.
adventure time
c'mon grab ur frens
Not Cinemaphile but Attack on Titan
People still like the early seasons though
You forgot OPM, endless rewrites that stray away from the web comic and a lame season has soured everyone on the franchise
Just a reminder that su is an inferior product to all the anime and western media that it references/parodies.
What has it referenced again?
>star wars
>utena
>captain harlock
>dragon ball
>sailor moon
Obligatory Akira slide and Tetsuo cat transformation scene.
>spirited away
>future boy conan
>one piece
There is nothing else I want to see from Steven Universe. Just make something new or frick off.
>Unironically has better maturity and lore than SU
Gumbros we won...
Steven Universe is a series that I think a remake could work. Just wait a few more years and get new staff.
No
Yes, but only if the villain is adult Steven that has failed to cope with his PTSD, so he's gone full God Gemperor mode and it's up to a new team of human/gem hybrids to stop him.
I'm fine with it if he ends up dead
Of course, he can even give a touching final speech, about how seeing that team work together makes him wish he had other hybrids like himself when he was younger.
Sounds like you want him to be a leftist that's bitter at choosing to be childfree
Not really
Only if it follows Spinel as protagonist learning to reintegrate with gems after millenia instead of just being used as a Pink Diamond fill in doll by Blue, Yellow, and White.
Spinel is never leaving that hag hellhole that SHIT.
>Turns out Spinel may actually be mine instead of a cumulative crewniverse abomination.
I hate that stupid rubbery butthole.
I had a friend in HS who swore by this show and we all made fun of him 24/7. He ended up going insane and cutting his dick off eventually thoughever so I guess the joke was on us.
I'm sorry. I'm sorry the fanbase is so fricked.
I can't really blame the fanbase tbqh, he was always kind of unbalanced. If anything it was doing acadec that did him in.
What's acadec?
Isn't that the band Butt-Head listens to?
In what sense is the joke on you?
He's the one who followed a path of self-destruction.
>#Renewstevenuniverse
I want to slap all those people and scream at them to MOVE ON.
I hope Rebecca hits it big with her and Matt Braly’s movie and Ian’s recent projects work out so they can leave this to DIE.
Exactly. It's why I was so bummed to hear that Pen, JG, AND Hirsch all had their newest cartoons killed off by executives without a second thought. I don't want to keep forcing out more of the same one franchise. I want the cartoonists I know and trust to be given free reign with BRAND-NEW shit.
If Dexter's Lab had gone on forever and ever, we would've been less likely to get Primal or Sym-Bionic Titan. LEAVE THE CLASSICS IN THE PAST. YOU CAN ALWAYS REWATCH YOUR FAVORITE EPISODES WHENEVER YOU PLEASE.
Hirsch probably fricked himself over but I do feel bad about the other guys
Yeah I can totally buy the rumor that he made Inside Job go over-budget 'cause he forgot that making a TV show means meeting deadlines and cutting corners where necessary. The more I look back on Gravity Falls's production and the more I compare it to how smoothly things went on Big City Greens, Owl House, and Amphibia, the more I realize that Alex Hirsch was a skilled writer and performer but shit at time management not being such a perfectionist for a TV cartoon on a strict schedule.
I miss her so much...
You basically had to puppet her
I'm just being dragged along for the ride
So was Alex hatched out of one of Soros' eggs or what?
Now that’s a show that should come back, not dirty Steven Universe
I still want to believe he and Shion had a thing and that caused a rift between him and Dana
Just ask her what is left to explore or develop, she will have no idea, I would be surprised if she even got the very basic idea of what this new sequel would be about.
No, SU was a cautionary tale of giving a femdegen the keys to a car, this show MUST NEVER come back.
>Steven Universe
>released in 2024's political climate
That would be suicidal. In 2013, the boomers hadn't fully gone online yet and the culture war mostly existed between bickering teenagers. In 2024 we've been through two horrific elections that have radicalized all segments of US society. Culture warriors have risen to high positions of poliical responsibility by systematically combing modern media for "woke" content which they attack with maximum force. Rebecca would have senators challenging her to duels. It would be like the Boston Bomb scare times 1000
frick god damn it, I didnt even think of this
It could actually be really good because of this, but it won't be.
THis
look at this thread, bunch of try hards and tourists shitting on the show for existing
had they even seen it they'd know it should be hated for actual production reasons, not for the irl politics
I watched it in full and hate it for story reasons
I've actually seen this shit, it should be hated for wasting your time, and the fans thrown in jail for swearing it's good.
>It's 2026
>Putin has released a speech stating the new Steven Universe spinoff is akin to a bioweapon and will be banned from Russia and its allies
>Elon retweets random blue checkmarks that Steven Universe trans'd their son with his trademark "Interesting" comment
>some town will host a burning of Steven Universe DVDs and at least 5 states will ban the show because Sugar made an episode where a brown hijabi girl and a genderqueer character hold hands on the boardwalk for 3.5 seconds
Zoomies the origin of the show is Rebecca sugar strongly believing in creativity and passionate relationships like myself as a Catholic. The woke lgbtq framing was forced on her by her social climate and the show degenerated as a result to become rather like the imitation beanmouth shows.
Aw sweet a new schizo
I've been here since 2006 and saw Rebecca Sugar post her Ed Edd n Eddy art. I also have my own metallic Ring monsters that invade universes I've been developing for all that time. Shut your queer yap
>I also have my own metallic Ring monsters that invade universes
Please explain that in as much detail as possible
I would if someone else was doing it.
The main problems of SU was that nothing ever mattered and everyone just cried and said sorry and everything was "fine" after that.
Which Spinel even lampshades in the movie... Only to then do exactly that which she was denouncing...
A SU with consequences would be cool.
Potentially even great.
My pitch for a reboot would start by revealing Rose LIED about dying the whole time. She did it as Pink, why would she change her ways now?
Rose actually being dead is one of the few things the show actually did that was consistently good all the way through to the end though.
And it directly resulted in Steven being a selfish c**t, so you're idealizing that behavior in him
That's the most moronic shit I've ever read, I don't idealize shit about Steven.
No, that show is for homosexuals.
sure, i liked the show
Only if they add actual ayylmaos alongside the gems, or atleast remnants of ayys. Made no sense how those were the only things out in space
Only if they can come up with some good antagonists. Makem rogue robots or whatever. The diamonds never answered for their crimes and the series ends with the empire effectively dead.
Only if they introduced some other species of aliens and had some conflicts with the government or gave a reason why they haven’t interfered.
It's been nearly 11 years and I still genuinely feel like all the gem lore we got was made specifically so they could bait lore and actiongays like myself into keeping the ratings afloat.
yeah honestly, if it was like a HBO thing aimed at an older audience id be 100% on board
There... is a LOT of Steven Universe, already. I'm not sure if I'm super interested in revisiting this show.
only answer
Nah. Haha. I say let it die!
Let it die, let it die, let it shrivel up and...come on, who's with me, huh?
I bet CN could really use a show that addresses political and cultural tensions in a compassionate way. Man, that could fill the coffers for a while.
But you know what CN really needs?
Toddler versions of everything.
THERE YOU GO butthole
I mean.... It ended with steven trying to find something to do at life now that the world is saved
What is next? Sneeple being canon?
>character so garbage you had to post offmodel or she looks like gumball in drag
Gumkeks....
>Doesnt realize him and all SU gays does this to their fricking ugly and garbage waifus
SU trannies are the most oblivious morons to be ever spawned
Didn't the series end with Steven moving out after realizing that everyone in his family was an butthole?
Here I am still mourning Mao Mao and OK KO, and all these people would rather force MORE Steven Universe after all that it's gotten already? Make it make sense.
Absolute morons on twitter claim they want original stuff and then make a stupid petition to bring back a show with 6 seasons and a movie
>OK KO
Anon. That dumpsterfire ended. What was there to mourn?
The impromptu and surprising conclusion of the ancient Webcomic 'RPG World' decades later amidst an episode of OK KO. That is what I mourn from it.
That show was almost as bad
Mao was at least decent
Even though I'm bummed OK KO was cut short when Ian & Toby so clearly had more ideas in store, it at least had an average run for a cartoon and wrapped things up beautifully. What happened to Mao Mao on the other hand is something I will never wrap my head around. It had the PERFECT blend of cool action, silly comedy, and cutesy marketable animal characters. It should've been Cartoon Network's TOP priority.
Ok ko had ideas, just not good or interesting ideas
It ended because kids didn't watch it
It had games, good marketing, crossover potential and it still failed on its own merit
Glad you liked it, but boy it felt like watching the second coming of butt ugly martians
Mao got done dirty though, never saw it being advertised and they even moved its air time a lot if it was allowed to air at all in other countries, someone in the network wanted it to fail
Would be more interested in a sequel where Steven is at least an old guy thats not connected to the central plot, or theres a new pink diamond MC with Steven having “passed on” like RQ did.
SUF explored a lot of stuff that really didn’t mesh well with the original series. For me to be interested in something new from the ip it’d need to separate itself from all that.
I'd be more interested in a show where Sugar tries to pay her mortgage with the little pity projects her friends give her.
She and Ian discuss getting a roommate.
Several roommates.
The promo features some homosexual side character saying "when you've heard one ukulele song...you've kinda heard them all."
How many times do we have to reply this?
Go frick yourself sugar, only a mere handful of autists want fatgayverse back for what it was, meanwhile the other 90% of fans want gems to be overly sexual, bawds, or something in between, so either bend the knee and give them what they want or get fricking lost.
Cut to some old animator gay stating (with urgency) "the entire industry is contracting!"
Music builds with dread, but suddenly, a sunrise, and Sugar's voice saying "that's when we realized we needed a change."
Cue footage of Sugar and Ian romping around a fancy van decked out with bed and kitchenette.
Just let the Japs make it
they can to the homosexual shit well it would look 4000% better and cheaper too
no need for that. the japs already have their own property about rock people, and it's miles better than anything sugar could come up with..
>no rock fricker male MC
nah
>final chapter next month
I should really catch up
If they make it 18+ and it is about having sex with gems then yes absolutely I would offer up funding for a reboot like that
Steven Universe showed me how a man can turn gay out of a sheer hatred for women.
>a man can turn gay out of a sheer hatred for women.
I thought that was the usual and most effective way of turning men gay though?
No, that would be desecrating their childhoods.
It's not even old, why the hell are people talking about reviving it?
Also nah, I don't really care much about the series.
didnt this show end a few years ago? why revive it?
cuz frick u thats why
the SU pilot.. sovl
I feel like SU’s story is done. Regardless of if you like it or hate it, I don’t see what else you can do with the franchise
>This dogshit show got two endings while many don't even get one
>Campaign for a revival
The absolute nerve of some people
>two endings
Three endings.
All awful by the way
>but muh movie
Spinel is overrated and it has no different closure from the original show, nothing actually happened for anyone outside of Spinel, they’re exactly the same character as they were before
Not without a clear vision.
Maybe if Ian got a action spinoff.
Seems like they've had plans in store for a while now. This was from almost 2 years ago
Creators always talk about wanting to go back, the KNF creator has wanted a chance to return for a while now. Doesn’t mean it will always happen
*KND
Kids next door even had that animatic released online only for CN to completely ignore it
frick no
all it would be is idpol liberals defending nazis
Maybe i guess?
You guess?
Steven universe but Greg never surrenders Steven over to the gems after they almost killed him as an infant. He runs away with Steven as he sees his sons life is in danger. The gems don't take that well and chase after them. Greg is still trying his best to be a good dad even though they are on the run Steven knows jack shit about gem shit though and has to learn to control it and what he is all by himself
Now we have something.
I'd like an episode where an older Steven says his gem was able to "transition" because he's a shape shifter, a literal alien, and that's not the standard trans experience.
The trans experience is fighting, and eventually capitulating, to reality. It's just living with a mental illness. That's all it is.
I would never be able to make that episode with Sugar, but that's the message I'd like to impart. The trans community, back when it wasn't popular, was a bleak community of shared longing for something that could never be.
You try to pass in a healthy world that doesn't accommodate you and shouldn't accommodate you and it eventually dawns on you that you just can't do it. And you live with that. That's it.
It's better to have trans allies rip you to shreds and tell you you'll never pass without deceptive lighting and camera angles than it is to have ethically questionable enablers pretend you won't become some abomination if you start taking hormones at the age of 9.
You rage at your very being. Why? Because the true self has become a crime scene. Unpure. And you want to escape to a new identity.
I would've loved there to be a scene where Steven is standing among the gems and it's very saccharine and cutesy and he doesn't feel safe. And he makes plans to leave.
It would take very little to reframe season 5 in a way that shows the gems to be duplicitous and dangerous.
Season 5 of SU is the real face of a liberal. I'm saying this as someone who grew up liberal and spent most of my life in liberal spaces. From the movement that makes its living pantomiming revolution, season 5 is what it really looks like when you actually touch power. Confusing and painful among all your allies(?)
make some more but with different characters and make it more action adventure and lightly serialized
I'd take anything over the wasteland that is tv toons
Lol I'm sure she'll run it like shit again.
Executives are getting confused and desperate because I seem to be fondly recalling SU so maybe I'd like to work on it again? No.
I'm just here, starving the industry.
I feel like the story of the original series has been extended as far as possible. The adventures in Beach City with the townies and the Gems has probably gone as far as it can. That said, Sugar did create a large universe of things to potentially explore, with and without Steven. If they revisit Steven (or some other character) as an adult, there's probably a lot they can do with that, which I find to be worthwhile
Also, I'd like to see more of these environments. Steven Universe's strength is probably the backgrounds and environments they design, so I think it'd be a fun thing to see again.
>Steven Universe's strength is probably the backgrounds and environments they design, so I think it'd be a fun thing to see again.
Couldn't you just apply a similar background art style for a whole new cartoon? I don't see why making more Steven Universe would be necessary.
Studios aren’t willing to gamble on ‘new’ anymore.
We've had five seasons, a TV movie and an extra season to close everything out. There's nothing else I want to see from Steven. Now other shit from that universe would be neat. I wouldn't mind seeing a Homeworld war prequel or a show set in the SU world several decades in the future. Kind of like Legend of Korra but hopefully not as shit.
Rebecca sugar is an idea person. She's someone who comes up with cool concepts and needs someone else to flesh it out. If she did a reboot of the show and let someone else write it I'd be interested
No cringe
It should star Best Gem.
No thanks
I thought that was what future was supposed to be.
Anyways i rather not have a revival. I like the show and all but it ran it's course.
I thought the first 2 seasons of Steven Universe were cool, obviously because of gem lore, but as the show went on it became increasingly clear that it was a low priority for the writers, but I had no idea they would make it as bad as they did after the Zoo episodes.
The gem designs got gradually worse, homeworld was just a mishmash of random constructs, their idea of "less human" looking gems is just turning them into objects like a comb and walls, they abandoned that Lars/Emerald plotline and we never even got a gem origin episode.
That art book with the uncorrupted gem designs was terrible too. We didn't even see a G1 peridot or what Sunstone and Smokey 1.0 looked like. The video games ended up doing better worldbuilding than the show ever could.
only if it drops the steven pov
Go the "The way it was suppose to be" route.
The Diamonds killed billions.
Some characters specifically fricked.
Dial up the body horror.
"Steven; i think we're actually going to have to kill this guy"
I'd say it's inevitable and I'm somewhat surprised it doesn't have something already. The show is popular, sells merch, and WB is clearly interested in it enough to put several characters in Multiversus.
Lapis has not had one full interaction with any of the original 3 (or 5) crystal gems.
Damn thats crazy
Yeah they used her as a mirror for hundreds of years probably
That's... really fricking weird when you think about it. Did the writers really not have ANY ideas on how to incorporate that interaction? Or is this part of a larger problem of Garnet, Amethyst, and Pearl getting sidelined and only ever bouncing off of Steven the further the series went on?
I blame the gay barn and the writer obsessed with lapidot sucking all the time away from any interaction
Frick remembering how bad shit got at that time makes me dislike this show even harder
there's that, but also the writers blatantly didn't know what to do with Lapis in general after she escaped her martyr complex fusion thing. She just acts vaguely sullen and then scared when the diamonds are mentioned and then suddenly she stops being scared. I liked her role in Future a bit more though, challenging Steven on his unwavering pacifist BS
I compare this show to so many others that came out since 2019 and how all of them used their cast better than this tripe. There was something rotten in this that’s unnatural for shows that go on for longer than 100 episodes.
Good. Every second of Lapis screentime after she took up residence on earth was a mouthpiece for really shitty people who think muh trauma or muh mental illness is a suitable excuse to be fricking awful to everyone, unrelated people included. She was tumblr bpd nonsense incarnate.
No. I want Rebecca to use her talents for something new.
This. I hope it won't be too long till we see some early teaser art for that movie she's writing on
i still want a pug davis cartoon, but she prolly wants nothing to do with it again due to being an early juvenile project
Didn't Sugar say something about SU primarily being made for "people like her" or something
I know this dude who was so into Spinel that pink mickey mouse thing...
You know this dude who was so into Spinel that pink mickey mouse thing...
this happened
WHO THE FRICK WOULD BE INTO SPINEL THAT USELESS SHIT
Here's an idea
Pink rips herself out of Steven's stomach just to crack the planet in half by whipping Spinel through the Earth's core because FRICK THAT STUPID CLOWN
I get a sadistic glee in anons forgetting Channel and Spinel after anons promising not to forget her like Pink Diamond did. The constant threads were annoying and the Channel edited movie cancelled because her fans wanted Channel's voice actress to yell racial slurs when she clearly didn't want to.
If Steven Universe ever does come back there needs to be a public town hall where we discuss how to do it. Because the bones of a good story are there but it's constantly being sabotaged by Sugars inability to write conflict and Tumblr users in the writing room
They would need to address the production and story issues, which they're too cowardly or egotistical to ever do it, And the internet is sadly trying to commodify their awful writing with hashtags like the one in OP to tell us the lie that "it was always good and if you dislike it then it's because you're a weirdo"
Fricking hate the cartoon community, burn it down in flames. Just post fanart and keep shut.
Sadly what we'd need is some event that affects the entire community so dearly that it disarms them
Whoops, did I abandon you in the garden?
Well this time I'm going to strategically abandon you to the diamonds.
Thank you for finally serving a purpose, you stupid toy.
Let's resuscitate the series so I can abandon you over and over until the heat death of the universe. Let's start mining on nearby planets just so I can push you down a galactic mineshaft.
Are you singing some stupid shitty song at me while I'm suffering to make a point about singing stupid shitty songs?
You're right. I was phoning it in. Because I was EXHAUSTED.
Didn't read the thread because this website sucks at having media literacy for children's cartoons but yes, yes I would.
Um, no? Didn't it end? Like, actually end instead of get canceled?
No, I would not.
And I don't even say that because I think the overall show was dull dogshit that felt like a hugbox in animated form made by someone overpriviliged, I say that because I see no reason to continue.
Like the MCU with Endgame or other things out there, this show had its run. And unlike other properties out there, it actually had a beginning, a middle and more importantly, an end.
An end that more or less wrapped up everything they wanted to tell plotpoint wise, which they already had made up along the way from the start. The "Cluster debacle" anyone?
If you are a storyteller and you have succesfully wrapped your story up, if there is nothing else to go for than perhaps an occassional "xth year anniversary special", learn to move on.
Or what? Are we going to now get the "hijinx" of Steven trying to apply for an internship at college? A reboot of the entire shitshow that just tells the same story over but this time with two more episodes on Captain Lars that go nowhere and just replace the Uncle Grandpa one?
Rebecca Sugar is like her troop of tumblr moron fans: Unable to let go.
>there are people here saying that israelite is innocent of all that woke garbage that was presented in the show
Cinemaphile is surely the stupidest board.
No. No more reboots, no more reimagining, no more revivals. Just make something new. Frick.
I don't get why this is such a hard mindset for people to adopt. A Phineas and Ferb continuation sounds interesting in theory, but it's not something I actively wanted. Doesn't help that you just KNOW it's gonna overshadow Hamster & Gretel because everyone is so averse to new ideas. Same with the new PPG series in development. Was Netflix really that untrusting of more new pitches from CRAIG McCRACKEN?
So what would need to happen for you to start to understand that Sugar and everyone else in Hollywood is physically incapable of being creative?
Sugar is...kind of creative? Possibly? She draws well.
Sometimes I want you to get it. But then other days I stop caring. I'm so mad about it that I don't want to consider you part of my community anymore. I realize that's unfair.
I've lived in a homeless shelter by the way. Very recently. On and off over several years. No one helped me.
I'm really tired of your escapism. I'm tired of your safe, middling existence. I'm going to shut everything down and watch you run cover for Hollywood. They don't need to do shit you just psyop yourself most of the time.
You hate this life, that's why you're here. I dunno, I hate it too. I'm going to destroy Hollywood and you just don't fricking get it. Look, it's fricking happening. IT'S ACTUALLY FRICKING HAPPENING. WHAT DOES IT MEAN?
This person is either going to be the next Jhonen Vasquez or die of an amphetamine overdose. Possibly both.
Something something bread and circuses.
money wont let them. netflix killed lauren faust's 'the owl house but good' witch project.
Will she actually control the writers and board artists this time?
Probably not.
One of the greatest weaknesses of her fellow calarts alumni is that they don't know how to read wrangle to stop their employees from doing dumb shit like Lauren Zuke.
Nah, she had her chance to do something great,but wasted on year long hiatus' and townie filler episodes.
I want to see the opposite premise.
A bunch of strong, burly, sexually questionable gem men from space who just look like rainbow colored Pillar Men from JoJo raising the human/gem hybrid daughter of their fallen leader because her human mother turned into a fricked out deadbeat after gem leader was killed fighting a british kid or something.
So... Stella and the Metal Men?
Multiverses are all the rage now, so….
I mean, this is literally what happened with Fiona and Cake.
Your woke asexual totally-not-girlboss is already their bread and butter
I'm almost curious as to what the real reason behind your schizo obsession is, but I can guess that it's probably some dumb bullshit.
You're looking too deep into it. I think it's a tryhard concept, that's it
is there an archive of this concept besides the threads? last time i checked its pastebin died
https://the-conservatory.fandom.com/wiki/Stella_and_the_Metal_Men
https://cor63au.fandom.com/wiki/Stella_and_the_Metal_Men
I'd like it to have never existed.
What am i in for though?
Fifty episodes of Steven sucking townie dick.
Wow. I actually want to see that happen if it pick up again.
Seconded.
Plus I really want to see how Sugar adapts to vanlife under a bridge.
Only if it revolves around my relationship with Garnet
Revived as Stephanie Universe could be interesting by showing just how seriously FRICKED Steven and his show's premise are.
Anon. ANON anon
Women are SAFE and PERFECT always.
Especially the israeli ones. The safest women I know.
Oh man oh boy let's kick this shit show back into the public consciousness!
>Not Steven's Universe
>Select moments from the series but from the perspective of other characters in the world.
>Various gov military dealing with the fallout from White Diamond nuking the planet.
>Other alien races dealing with Gem invasions and the period after Steven forces them to pull out.
> A simulation of what would happen to the Earth when the cluster awakens from the perspective of people in a city.
>A social worker is assigned to Connie after she beats that kid and learns all about the crystal gems plus their bloody history.
Needs mature writers, not everyone is Pendleton or Rebecca.
sex with steven
I only would support a revival if we got more yummy chubby chicks