Of course, but it would never happen, so why worry about it? For now i’ll settle for fighting for traditional animation (not CGI or puppet rigging) period.
Yeah it's like shopping at the local hardware store instead of going to Lowe's. Sure Lowe's has a better selection and better prices but their staff are all unskilled morons.
Not really. But you'd have to go in a hardware store to know that. They'd probably just take one look at your blue lightning hair dye or whatever it's called and laugh you right back out.
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>moving the goalpost
Sure troony
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I don't think you know what that means. That's alright though, it's not really important on account of your blue lightning hair dye.
Digital animation looks like shit. Every line is sterile and perfect of equal weight. Coloring and the use of it and lighting is abysmal. Digital making things easier also means that the skill floor for becoming an animator is much lower which means the people actually making it are less talented. I think it's straight up impossible to make something like Project Eden's OP in pure modern digital. There's just an inherent inhumanity to digital
That's my point. Animation is completely soulless and entirely profit motivated now. Who cares if digital is inferior and had destroyed any sense of artistry that once existed and flourished in the medium? The numbers on the spreadsheet look a little better and brainless drones seriously believe Lion King 2019 is a better movie because it looks more real.
My point is that animation as an artistic medium is dead.
Maybe if it adds something to the movie that digital methods wouldn't, not that I can imagine what that would be. I'd love to see something Pinocchio tier though.
I would.
Because the animation is literally hand-made then filmed it has this basis in reality. it's imperfections keep it from being too uncanny. And there's something about the color with the backlight that gives it a more "lived in" look compared to the digital stuff
Yes, but Americans normies are too moronic to watch it. In this way Disney has animated features basically locked down. Because if a character needs to walk in from the rain, take their coat off and push back their hair, in cinema qaulity 3D it's a collaboration between the animation, fx, cloth simulation, water specialist, hair team.... as opposed to having an artist animate it.
Not really. It was done that way because that was the best tool to get the job done at the time, not because it was in any way artistically-intuitive way to accomplish the task. Frankly, traditional animation through digital tools is just a better solution to the same problems.
What the point if these limp wrist animators are still going make the same neutered kiddie cal-art garbage they been making? It would only be wasted. Call me when Cinemaphile start making real shit.
>this
Also the costs of the paint that was used raised at some point if I'm remember correctly. Truthfully it would be better to just see if people can achieve the look with digital brushes so money isn't spent on something that can have it's price jacked up.
https://i.imgur.com/sI4vmkI.jpg
Would you like to see cel animation make a comeback?
are you a cel collector by chance? Is this all a ploy to get more animation cels to buy?
Cel animation is extremely expensive and on it's down looks heavily dated. just watch any high definition 80s or 90s anime.
But I recently watched Ghost in The Shell and I was dying thinking how that 10/10 lineart and scenery would look like with modern digital post-production.
I don't see the point in an animation renaissance of any kind unless there's an inquisition first.
As much as i would, it’s pretty much inconvenient compared to the technology we have nowadays.
Of course, but it would never happen, so why worry about it? For now i’ll settle for fighting for traditional animation (not CGI or puppet rigging) period.
>Brining back an archaic and time consuming animation method when cheaper and more efficient methods exist.
Yeah it's like shopping at the local hardware store instead of going to Lowe's. Sure Lowe's has a better selection and better prices but their staff are all unskilled morons.
terrible analogy
You've just never been to a hardware store. That's alright though, it's more of a man thing. Queers just get in the way and stink up the aisles.
Your analogy is terrible because both sell the same product.
Not really. But you'd have to go in a hardware store to know that. They'd probably just take one look at your blue lightning hair dye or whatever it's called and laugh you right back out.
>moving the goalpost
Sure troony
I don't think you know what that means. That's alright though, it's not really important on account of your blue lightning hair dye.
Digital animation looks like shit. Every line is sterile and perfect of equal weight. Coloring and the use of it and lighting is abysmal. Digital making things easier also means that the skill floor for becoming an animator is much lower which means the people actually making it are less talented. I think it's straight up impossible to make something like Project Eden's OP in pure modern digital. There's just an inherent inhumanity to digital
your point?
Its not coming back because there is no economic incentive to do so.
Animation is a business not a charity
That's my point. Animation is completely soulless and entirely profit motivated now. Who cares if digital is inferior and had destroyed any sense of artistry that once existed and flourished in the medium? The numbers on the spreadsheet look a little better and brainless drones seriously believe Lion King 2019 is a better movie because it looks more real.
My point is that animation as an artistic medium is dead.
>entirely profit motivated
> now
It always was
Maybe if it adds something to the movie that digital methods wouldn't, not that I can imagine what that would be. I'd love to see something Pinocchio tier though.
I just wish they wouldn't have people who are so fricking shit at picking colours decide on the palettes for digital animation.
I would.
Because the animation is literally hand-made then filmed it has this basis in reality. it's imperfections keep it from being too uncanny. And there's something about the color with the backlight that gives it a more "lived in" look compared to the digital stuff
Is there some way we can make it "look" as if it came back with digital technology? Like a kinda emulation.
Yes, but I've only seen still art used a cell-shaded effect
Some amateur artists have come close (the 80’s episode of Senpai Club and Super Turbo Atomic Mega Rabbit)
I'd say bring it back, if you are gonna do 4-7 minute long shorts.
The animation in these are gorgeous.
No.
Because that costs more.
Yes, but i’ve only seen it once professionally (for a single 24 minute episode), so either there is no desire or it’s a pain in the fricking ass.
>Is there some way we can make it "look" as if it came back with digital technology?
whats the point? whingy nerds will still nitpick on it
People in hell want ice water
Yes, but Americans normies are too moronic to watch it. In this way Disney has animated features basically locked down. Because if a character needs to walk in from the rain, take their coat off and push back their hair, in cinema qaulity 3D it's a collaboration between the animation, fx, cloth simulation, water specialist, hair team.... as opposed to having an artist animate it.
>Americans normies are too moronic to watch it
How is it America's responsibility/obligation to watch or "save" Cel-shade animation?
Obssessed much, Muhamed?
Insullah by vegeta on high I will behead you salamickey
Not really. It was done that way because that was the best tool to get the job done at the time, not because it was in any way artistically-intuitive way to accomplish the task. Frankly, traditional animation through digital tools is just a better solution to the same problems.
CAPS rendered it unnecessary. I'd like to see hand drawn come back.
Yeah. I'd also like a handjob from Cleopatra
What the point if these limp wrist animators are still going make the same neutered kiddie cal-art garbage they been making? It would only be wasted. Call me when Cinemaphile start making real shit.
>this
Also the costs of the paint that was used raised at some point if I'm remember correctly. Truthfully it would be better to just see if people can achieve the look with digital brushes so money isn't spent on something that can have it's price jacked up.
are you a cel collector by chance? Is this all a ploy to get more animation cels to buy?
Yes
>posts aeon flux
Yikes
Cel animation is extremely expensive and on it's down looks heavily dated. just watch any high definition 80s or 90s anime.
But I recently watched Ghost in The Shell and I was dying thinking how that 10/10 lineart and scenery would look like with modern digital post-production.
Shooting up offices / animation schools, mail bombing CEOs, holding animation crews hostage.