Boomers are moronic and blamed Manson because he was the most visible counterculture musician at the time, but neither of the shooters even liked Manson.
People have said that they listened to Manson, NIN, Rammstein, and other industrial acts. What confuses me, however, is why boomers pointed to Manson. He was a counter-culture figure, yes, but there was plenty of violent movies and mal-adjusted people making music even when boomers were teens.
>the shooters were MM fans
They weren't though, they thought he was a homosexual sell out.
They were more into KMFDM, but they weren't American or very famous, nor did they dress like a gay for magazine covers, so the fingers don't point to them.
>wasn’t Alice Cooper doing weird shit on stage too
Alice Cooper was staging his own death at his shows, strapping himself in mock electric chairs, chopping his head off with a guillotine and hanging himself, dude puts on a fricking amazing show
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I think it’s because Manson was so in your face about what he was doing so it was easy to point the finger solely at him. His image and music videos were pretty shocking for the time.
Well the news media aren't exactly going to tell on themselves and their audience by pointing to Natural Born Killers. (Which the shooters *named the event after*.)
Not really, 99% of boomers had no idea who he was. It was 10% fearmongering grifters, 90% him talking about how hecking prosecuted he was for free publicity
The weird part is that Columbine *was* partly down to media. But it was down to the film Natural Born Killers, the game DOOM, and the news media. I don't know if music had anything to do with it. The film The Matrix potentially did.
Haha let's release this film glorifying and sensationalising violence, rape and dehumanisation.. b but it's the medias fault you silly goys it's not our films we released to make money off of human instinct and suffering
Manson and other industrial music mainly RAMMSTEIN, KMFDM and NINE INCH NAILS
we're 100% responsible for the massacre
The massacre was a chemical reaction of multiple things including music and movies which the young minds of both Dylan and Eric were absolutely obsessed with to the point I imagine if these things weren't available to them, they would have not had the drive to carry out their plans
If you know about the whole subject you'll understand
Don't forget DOOM and the ability to create your own levels called 'Wads'. Eric had 'Wads' on a personal website. They were designed to look like the school.
It is time people wake up to the terrible things these video games are contributing to. They are war simulators. They make the loss of life look so trivial to their young, growing minds.
I don't know if you're being ironic or not. But you're unironically right
If you do any proper research into the topic you will see how much both of them obsessed with DOOM and it was constantly on their minds. Same with natural born killers and other movies
Teenage minds are very prone to imitation and being led on by things and ideas (e.g erics fascination with Nazis due to the super kewl aesthetics)
Only brainless people say it was due to "bullying" as I'm sure they had their share of negative social interactions, but they were also documented bullies themselves, and had numerous friends. They weren't social outcasts but rather wanted to portray themselves as dangerous mysterious and scary, largely due to the media they consumed
There’s no such thing as ironic satanic worship but Brian is smart as evidenced by some of his lyrics. That said, he treats his band members like trash and is a giant butthole so frick him.
except that klebold or maybe it was the other dude , were just pure psychopath psychotic so there was no 'muh bullied kid snaps, if only someone listened' situation
moron. if you knew anything about it you'd know that at least Eric was definitely a loser.
>At the end of Harris' last journal entry, he wrote: "I hate you people for leaving me out of so many fun things. And no don't fricking say, 'Well that's your fault,' because it isn't, you people had my phone number, and I asked and all, but no. No no no don't let the weird-looking Eric KID come along, ooh fricking nooo."
>Klebold said on the Basement Tapes, "You've been giving us shit for years. You're fricking gonna pay for all the shit! We don't give a shit. Because we're gonna die doing it."
The school shooter issue is a "young bullied 'white'boy" problem. Every single one of these shooters is a virgin/unpopular/antisocial/ugly young dude lashing out at the world.
These are problems most teens have at one point or another. Michael Moore (sellout to big pharma) pointed the finger where it needed to be pointed: it wasn't the guns, it wasn't the historic myth of the nation, it wasn't that they were anymore psychos than you or me. It was that they were being raised in an economy that subsisted on projection of power and provided an insecure, if any, social welfare net. What values do you think such a society is holding? Violence, raw force. Combine that with a constant barrage of fear porn AND the proliferation of weapons, now you have people who are fearful and at the junction of a crisis the only thing shining as a solution in the darkness is a weapon.
They literally convinced themselves they were losers. They had a massive friend group. They didn't want to play sports with the "jocks". They didn't want to even have girlfriends etc (Eric managed to get one right before he carried out the shootings)
They basically wanted to go down in history as scary killers because they listened to too much violent music, films and internet. They based their whole view on song lyrics and nazi slogans.
Eric- "Mwahahahaha I'm GODLIKE™"x300
yeah totally not influenced by kmfdm - godlike
If you look at the whole picture you'll understand
They were gays that wanted infamy. They didn't get bullied any worse than other kids. It's also funny that during their failed bombing/shooting they didn't kill any of the people that they claimed had bullied them.
Yeah, BASED relatable and sensible satanist. Guys, I'm starting to think this whole Hollywood occult stuff is actually pretty cool! They're just eccentric entertainers putting on a show, there's no theological angle to this. Also, Freemasons are just dudes hanging out, smoking cigars and helping the community, pretty based if you ask me. You should ask your local lodge about joining, haha.
>I wouldn't say a single word to them. I would listen to what they have to say and that's what no one did. Then I would tell them they can find an emotionally vulnerable young woman to rape, terrorize and abuse, because that's what I did.
>I wouldn't say a single word to them. I would listen to what they have to say and that's what no one did.
I'm not taking sides but you know that's something you would expect from guy like MM.
He was very open in Long Hard Road Out Of Hell that he's fricked up person, any regular woman who though "well I'm sure he's actually really sweet guy, I can change him" is moronic.
KMFDM are all a bunch of non violent communist degenerates
as fricked as they are, i simply cannot see how the columbine shooters were 'influenced' by the band
the music isn't aggressive or violent
it's politically charged and passionate, but there isn't a single song they have that advocates for violence or killing people
stop being a fricking moron
And on the other side, the MeToo and the pseudoprogressives: disregard all forms of old art. Same result, one used to do it because of satan, today because of sexism and racism.
I am formulating an assumption, that it's because they don't want to produce physical media, let everything be online (close monitoring and direct access to distribution-no tapetrading, no illegal copies, censorship), wider mediation than records (which is a commodity, but still tangible and with at least the semblance of artistic control) and, at the end of the day, shrink inspirstion sources: the world is not as you dream it, it's how we tell you it is. Fewer misunderstandings. Take the jab, support Ukraine.
Imagine if feds put a fraction of the effort they expend coaching mentally ill people into shooting up schools and focused it on doing their actual job and spying on foreign diplomats.
If books and media overall is to blame then why do we celebrate Shakespeare as the greatest writer ever when his books talk about murder, incest, and rape?
169621615 >If you do any proper research into the topic you will see how much both of them obsessed with DOOM and it was constantly on their minds. Same with natural born killers and other movies
And out of the thousands that were the same, no one else did anything like that.
Oh shit rambo is on. Thats not as bad
No Joke I saw Manson at a Panda Express near Culver City. We made eye contact sor a second and I shit myself a little, he had on minimal (for him) facepaint and eye makeup. My only regret is having not paid closer attention to his food order.
Did people actually attribute the cause of Columbine to guys like Manson?
Boomers are moronic and blamed Manson because he was the most visible counterculture musician at the time, but neither of the shooters even liked Manson.
People have said that they listened to Manson, NIN, Rammstein, and other industrial acts. What confuses me, however, is why boomers pointed to Manson. He was a counter-culture figure, yes, but there was plenty of violent movies and mal-adjusted people making music even when boomers were teens.
Because people were picketing his concerts at the same time and the shooters were MM fans
>the shooters were MM fans
They weren't though, they thought he was a homosexual sell out.
They were more into KMFDM, but they weren't American or very famous, nor did they dress like a gay for magazine covers, so the fingers don't point to them.
Interesting it’s been a long time since I looked into that stuff.
Lmao
Kmfdm dressed more cringe then Manson
Manson liked to play the Satanic angle to get a rise out of people plus he looked weird so that was enough for boomers.
But wasn’t Alice Cooper doing weird shit on stage too? Something with baby or a snake? I don’t listen to him but I’m sure Manson was inspired by him.
At least Alice Cooper made some good music. Manson was just a homosexual edgelord.
>wasn’t Alice Cooper doing weird shit on stage too
Alice Cooper was staging his own death at his shows, strapping himself in mock electric chairs, chopping his head off with a guillotine and hanging himself, dude puts on a fricking amazing show
Forgot add the video link of Alice getting hung from one of his 70's concerts
I think it’s because Manson was so in your face about what he was doing so it was easy to point the finger solely at him. His image and music videos were pretty shocking for the time.
Well the news media aren't exactly going to tell on themselves and their audience by pointing to Natural Born Killers. (Which the shooters *named the event after*.)
>Boomers are moronic
The lead paint generation
didn't you see Bowling For Columbine? conservative Americans have always been tards
like a week after the shooting the NRA held a rally in that town to blame rock n roll music and advocate for more guns
30 years later here we are, same song
>didn't you see that Michael moo-
No you homosexual now back to plebbit
they would have blamed elvis and chuck berry if something like this happened in the 50s
>If this happened in the 50s
>hyper violent music, video games and films didn't exist in the 50s
Gee golly gosh I wonder what this could mean
People like to pin blame for shootings on everything except the actual problem(white people).
>everything except the actual problem(white people).
Over 50% of all homicide victims are blacks killed by other blacks. Blacks don't even make up 15% of the population. Frick off with your bullshit.
i can't believe how you morons manage to fall for the most low-effort baits.
>thinks people don't actually believe that shit
Mass shootings are less than 1% of total gun deaths.
They blamed it on everything they could point their fingers towards. Video games, music, movies, you name it, nothing was safe.
Not really, 99% of boomers had no idea who he was. It was 10% fearmongering grifters, 90% him talking about how hecking prosecuted he was for free publicity
It was a different time.
And Grand Theft Auto
The weird part is that Columbine *was* partly down to media. But it was down to the film Natural Born Killers, the game DOOM, and the news media. I don't know if music had anything to do with it. The film The Matrix potentially did.
>The Matrix
Probably. They killed all those people literally a month after it came out and dressed up like Neo.
You're a moron. The fact that one guy was a legit psychopath and the other suicidally depressed is the reason why it happened, and not media.
Natural Born Killers perfectly pointed out what was going to happen over the next three decades and not one of you moralizing morons got it
Haha let's release this film glorifying and sensationalising violence, rape and dehumanisation.. b but it's the medias fault you silly goys it's not our films we released to make money off of human instinct and suffering
Yes.
How quickly Cinemaphile forgets Jack Thompson.
Yes. Yes they did
Redpill:
Manson and other industrial music mainly RAMMSTEIN, KMFDM and NINE INCH NAILS
we're 100% responsible for the massacre
The massacre was a chemical reaction of multiple things including music and movies which the young minds of both Dylan and Eric were absolutely obsessed with to the point I imagine if these things weren't available to them, they would have not had the drive to carry out their plans
If you know about the whole subject you'll understand
Don't forget DOOM and the ability to create your own levels called 'Wads'. Eric had 'Wads' on a personal website. They were designed to look like the school.
It is time people wake up to the terrible things these video games are contributing to. They are war simulators. They make the loss of life look so trivial to their young, growing minds.
I don't know if you're being ironic or not. But you're unironically right
If you do any proper research into the topic you will see how much both of them obsessed with DOOM and it was constantly on their minds. Same with natural born killers and other movies
Teenage minds are very prone to imitation and being led on by things and ideas (e.g erics fascination with Nazis due to the super kewl aesthetics)
Only brainless people say it was due to "bullying" as I'm sure they had their share of negative social interactions, but they were also documented bullies themselves, and had numerous friends. They weren't social outcasts but rather wanted to portray themselves as dangerous mysterious and scary, largely due to the media they consumed
Yeah boomers would blame shootings on vidya, music, anything but their shitty parenting
He was big at the time so he became a scapegoat
He's had some pretty good interviews. Very reasonable dude underneath the act.
He was an atheist
So, high iq
Capable of empathy instead of blaming rock and roll and demons.
>Atheist
>High IQ
110 isn't high.
go back
He's a cringe troony
There’s no such thing as ironic satanic worship but Brian is smart as evidenced by some of his lyrics. That said, he treats his band members like trash and is a giant butthole so frick him.
>sensible
>has teeth permanently chromed to do unlimited drugs
His MTV Cribs episode was kino
except that klebold or maybe it was the other dude , were just pure psychopath psychotic so there was no 'muh bullied kid snaps, if only someone listened' situation
moron. if you knew anything about it you'd know that at least Eric was definitely a loser.
>At the end of Harris' last journal entry, he wrote: "I hate you people for leaving me out of so many fun things. And no don't fricking say, 'Well that's your fault,' because it isn't, you people had my phone number, and I asked and all, but no. No no no don't let the weird-looking Eric KID come along, ooh fricking nooo."
>Klebold said on the Basement Tapes, "You've been giving us shit for years. You're fricking gonna pay for all the shit! We don't give a shit. Because we're gonna die doing it."
The school shooter issue is a "young bullied 'white'boy" problem. Every single one of these shooters is a virgin/unpopular/antisocial/ugly young dude lashing out at the world.
One of them went to prom.
You don't have to be invited to prom stupid and I'm not saying they were relentlessly bullied either. They were just angry dweebs
>You don't have to be invited to prom
Yeah but the whole point is to bring a date, which one of them did, so at least one wasn't a loser.
These are problems most teens have at one point or another. Michael Moore (sellout to big pharma) pointed the finger where it needed to be pointed: it wasn't the guns, it wasn't the historic myth of the nation, it wasn't that they were anymore psychos than you or me. It was that they were being raised in an economy that subsisted on projection of power and provided an insecure, if any, social welfare net. What values do you think such a society is holding? Violence, raw force. Combine that with a constant barrage of fear porn AND the proliferation of weapons, now you have people who are fearful and at the junction of a crisis the only thing shining as a solution in the darkness is a weapon.
This. The only way to self-actualize in this society is by killing a bunch of people.
Hahaahahhaa
They literally convinced themselves they were losers. They had a massive friend group. They didn't want to play sports with the "jocks". They didn't want to even have girlfriends etc (Eric managed to get one right before he carried out the shootings)
They basically wanted to go down in history as scary killers because they listened to too much violent music, films and internet. They based their whole view on song lyrics and nazi slogans.
Eric- "Mwahahahaha I'm GODLIKE™"x300
yeah totally not influenced by kmfdm - godlike
If you look at the whole picture you'll understand
Ah frick your bait got me
It's not bait though. read his journal everything is a regurgitation of what he heard in a song or nazi slogans he read
That's literally his personality and what he based his worldview on
Now tell me these things didn't have an impact
They were gays that wanted infamy. They didn't get bullied any worse than other kids. It's also funny that during their failed bombing/shooting they didn't kill any of the people that they claimed had bullied them.
Yeah, BASED relatable and sensible satanist. Guys, I'm starting to think this whole Hollywood occult stuff is actually pretty cool! They're just eccentric entertainers putting on a show, there's no theological angle to this. Also, Freemasons are just dudes hanging out, smoking cigars and helping the community, pretty based if you ask me. You should ask your local lodge about joining, haha.
sure he is, evan rachel b***h is lying
>I wouldn't say a single word to them. I would listen to what they have to say and that's what no one did. Then I would tell them they can find an emotionally vulnerable young woman to rape, terrorize and abuse, because that's what I did.
/ourguy/
I'm not taking sides but you know that's something you would expect from guy like MM.
He was very open in Long Hard Road Out Of Hell that he's fricked up person, any regular woman who though "well I'm sure he's actually really sweet guy, I can change him" is moronic.
Yeah, very sensible to be dumb enough to think that the violence that happens in the US isn't just the US working as intended.
The homeless and fentanyl epidemic is also the US working as intended.
>I wouldn't say a single word to them. I would listen to what they have to say and that's what no one did.
Oh look, it's another case of "b***h accuses some dude of something so it must be true....".
Frick off.
Another case of 20 people accusing them, plus people who worked with him addmiting "yeah he totally did it"
>Noooooo my baserino quirky guy wouldnt do such a thing
Mike betrayed the workers.
Pretentious and up his own butthole.
KMFDM are all a bunch of non violent communist degenerates
as fricked as they are, i simply cannot see how the columbine shooters were 'influenced' by the band
Why pacifists make aggressive and violent music?
the music isn't aggressive or violent
it's politically charged and passionate, but there isn't a single song they have that advocates for violence or killing people
stop being a fricking moron
And on the other side, the MeToo and the pseudoprogressives: disregard all forms of old art. Same result, one used to do it because of satan, today because of sexism and racism.
I am formulating an assumption, that it's because they don't want to produce physical media, let everything be online (close monitoring and direct access to distribution-no tapetrading, no illegal copies, censorship), wider mediation than records (which is a commodity, but still tangible and with at least the semblance of artistic control) and, at the end of the day, shrink inspirstion sources: the world is not as you dream it, it's how we tell you it is. Fewer misunderstandings. Take the jab, support Ukraine.
Ah sweet, schizo posting just started.
Catharsis
Didn't he abuse the Westworld cutie ?
Imagine if feds put a fraction of the effort they expend coaching mentally ill people into shooting up schools and focused it on doing their actual job and spying on foreign diplomats.
>into shooting up schools
or bombing public events and buildings
Columbine was just people snapping in America though.
Now it's the left who wants to censor everything...
Neocons and sjws both corporate puppets and wef lackys.
A curse on both houses
If books and media overall is to blame then why do we celebrate Shakespeare as the greatest writer ever when his books talk about murder, incest, and rape?
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>If you do any proper research into the topic you will see how much both of them obsessed with DOOM and it was constantly on their minds. Same with natural born killers and other movies
And out of the thousands that were the same, no one else did anything like that.
Oh shit rambo is on. Thats not as bad
I think violent impulses are nurtured through music films and video games
In this case the the duo had each other to encourage plus all the stimulation from the music and films was a chemical reaction which caused the event
It's actually insane how that movie made everyone think of Manson like some wholesome 200IQ guy.
Give a media jester a microphone and let him regurgitate an empty little phrase and everyone think he's smart
Manson is a massive gay, and his music sucks dick.
makes sense why he hangs out with Johnny Depp
yeah they're both creative and bright but also have edgy, eccentric, pretentious personalities and are impulsive
No Joke I saw Manson at a Panda Express near Culver City. We made eye contact sor a second and I shit myself a little, he had on minimal (for him) facepaint and eye makeup. My only regret is having not paid closer attention to his food order.