just purchased the first volume of case files and currently on the prog where Dredd is threatened by Call-Me-Kenneth! with being turned into a Android.
Mannnnn!!!!! I am a comic book fan and love some of the modern stuff but this old school shit is just *chefs kiss*.
The art isn't too distracting but yet very detailed to both the plot and storyline and the dialog, although a bit cheesy at times is done is such an organic way that it makes even the cheesy lines loveable and funny.
I am turning into a big Judge Dredd fan, going to read all these shits. probably take me a while. anyone else read the Dredd series? if so, what's your take?
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Bump.
Thanks for the bump anon,
I'll add some more to hopefully nudge this thread along.
One of the coolest aspects of this 2099A.D. North America to me is the technology, it has that retro futurism feel but with a modern adaptation. for example, The Lawmaster Bikes look like 70's choppers but yet they have on-board computers that link back to Justice H.Q. with capabilities like Autopilot and Voice Recognition of suspects or lawbreakers.
it was interesting and is interesting to see Dredd go from simple Lawman to increasingly more... methodical and cold with his dispense of the law. although his insight and warnings are on point, especially with this current robot vs. humans war progs I'm reading.
Damn this shit is fricking dope.
What separates Judge Dredd from a solid cape character?
Is it that he had solid writers shape him up for a good amount of his run?
Sure, on a really simplistic level maybe.
but I think what separates Judge Dredd from a 'solid cape character' is that with Dredd you know its no masquerading about with P.C. appearances and perceptions. If you break the law, he on your ass! no 2 ways about it, and based on the offense of the lawbreaker determines the extent on which the law is exercised.
Meanwhile, Caped Superheroes literally watch their loved one murdered and still don't stop the problem. it's as if they secretly seek out the very torment and violence which drove them on the quest for this faux good guy bullshit role of non-killing of villain's (who kill).
The writing is amazing though.
You forget "Block Mania"?
I've not gotten to that prog yet, but "Block Mania" explains the lack of trying to raise above base self
>"Block Mania" explains the lack of trying to raise above base self
Explain, since it was caused by the population being drugged by an outside threat.
As I've said, I've not read that particular prog yet but seen it mentioned and to my understanding, once Block mania happened, everyone, including some Judges began to start being more violent.
So I think that's why none of the characters are your typical marvel/dc comics hero pretending to be altruistic. All super heroes in marvel and dc seem to not truly be altruistic and love the fame and popularity of beating up bad guys, not stopping bad guys, just beating them up.
Dredd's world is different, and I don't think someone trying to be 'good' as you say would flesh out too well for him or her.
I think back to the latest Dredd live action flick where the telepath was what you described and almost got killed for it.
lol
And prior to Block Mania, it was still a crapsack world with no one to cheer for. So what does that have to do with anything?
I think you're either not grasping the world of Dredd or just want to argue. but to stop this before it becomes juvenile, in Dredd's world it's about order and law. I don't think in Dredd's world, the world is seeking a hero.
but to each his own. sorry you don't like such a great fricking series.
So you're gonna just completely dodge the fact you said BLOCK MANIA EXPLAINS IT ALL!!! in
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and you're going to play the "U just don't understand" card because you can't explain what you mean by that when it was the exact same prior to Block Mania? No wonder you want to quit before "it becomes juvenile", you can't even hold a conversation without running away like a child when challenged.
Protip: Don't make a statement you can't back up, it makes you sound like a moron. Enjoy your torture and misery porn.
Protip: Spotted your initial point from jump, not to discuss Dredd but to argue to moot point you think is deep.
I gave my opinion. YOU(you) are the one who started trying to argue against my opinion with "You forget "Block Mania"?" You are literally complaining about an argument YOU started. You may notice I never responded to your OP, or any other post you made. I just gave my opinion.
What is your complaint here, that you lost the argument you started, or no one who disagrees with your opinion should be allowed to post in your thread?
Lol look at this, you're more interested in arguing moot points rather than discuss comics. I really hope you feel better, Not responding to you from here on out because you're emotional hurting and seek online conflict as a weird way to self medicate. I'm good. peace
>still can't respond with an argument, so "look at you!"
Cool. Enjoy your torture and misery porn. I won't be the last anon to point and laugh at your inability to discuss things with people who don't share your opinion. Or the last person who laughs at you IRL.
the original one-off Block Mania story basically was a one-off goof story making fun of people who get into fights over how their town/neighborhood block was better than another person's.
has some massive autism going since he has a point but doing a super fricking shitty way of expressing what is a common theory about the evolution of the Dredd strip, though it's a basic b***h notion based on availability of material.
The multi-issue arc "Block Mania", it itself was a stealth prologue arc for MASSIVE half year long Apocalypse War arc, set the stage for a much darker Judge Dredd. Apocalypse War saw everything south of Virginia in Mega-City One being destroyed in nuclear war and pretty much put the entire cast through pure hell, to the point that Dredd basically commits motherfricking GENOCIDE at the end of the story (which itself has consequences, culminating in Days of Chaos, when the Soviets basically get their revenge decades later).
But while it's a dark fricking story, the multi-part Angel's Revenge story (which is the sequel to Judge Child Quest) is where shit gets super dark as far as Wagner and Grant killing off Walter the Robot and writing out Dredd's landlord.
But even then, the tone doesn't go full grimdark until the first arc of the Democracy storyline with which Grant bullies Wagner to full on acknowledge the fascist elements of the Judge System and has Dredd take the first steps of villainy that Wagner ultimately had to backtrack on due to fans not taking it well.
>But even then, the tone doesn't go full grimdark until the first arc of the Democracy storyline with which Grant bullies Wagner to full on acknowledge the fascist elements of the Judge System and has Dredd take the first steps of villainy that Wagner ultimately had to backtrack on due to fans not taking it well.
Specifically, due to actual Fascists writing in to support Dredd's new direction. Lmao.
Only fricking person who thought Dredd was an actual god-damn fascist was Alan Grant and he damn near killed the franchise and forced Wagner to divorce himself from Grant's woke ass.
Pat Mills explicitly wrote Dredd as a good cop who fought against the bad people on the force and was a paragon of virtue. Wagner meanwhile expanded upon that and added the element that the people of Mega City One are both too dumb to live and would all DIE if not for the Judge system along with Dredd being a necessary type of hard-ass who does what has to be done and openly fights to reform the system when he realizes it goes too fricking far or is acting corrupt.
It was Grant who got his undies in a knot thinking Dredd was a Nazi and wanted to burn the franchise to the ground, to the point that he wanted Dredd to start shooting innocent people like Chopper in the back for the sin of making the Judges look bad.
As someone who has read everything Dredd up to 2002. Consistent characterization, shit that happens to him isn't forgotten or retconned away 6 months later. It moves in real time, so he's 45 years older than when he was in 1977. Babies are introduced and 20 years later you may see them again grown up. Proper pacing is a nice change too, due to how it's released shit needs to happen in a timely manner. It doesn't shy away from shorter stories either.
>Enjoy your torture and misery porn.
People notice the smell.
Would a file even help in an isolation cube?
MC1 citizens always find a way.
were do these Newspaper style Dredd strips come from?
I saved them from my reading binge, so they'd be somewhere in 2000AD or the Megazine. I saved anything that seemed worth posting later.
The daily star
they're collected in 'the daily dredds"
the page three girl daily star?
Dredd will kill one person to save 10. Batman wouldn't. Check out their crossovers they're good and do a lot to contrast dredd with batman plus the art is amazing.
I stopped reading when I finally noticed the series was at it's most creative and clever solely when it was exploring ways to torment people. The actual technology that built the world and is used often is barely even looked at, but nearly anything that can be used to kill or torment will be spot-lighted. There are no heroes to cheer for, even Dredd himself does horrible things to good people in the name of following the law. In most crapsack world fiction, you at least have one person or group trying to be better. In Judge Dredd's world, no one tries.
Everyone is so horribly broken, you are forced to wonder why any sane person would have children. Who would want their children to have the choice of living in pure anarchy, or under the boot of a military dictatorship that sees nothing wrong with putting someone in mind-breaking isolation for years for the crime of jaywalking. Or trapping an inventor in a ship programmed to travel long beyond his lifespan with no company because he invented something people went nuts over. You even get cut off from breathable fricking air if you can't afford your bills.
The concepts are interesting, and there's some good stories in there, but for the most part it's just torture and misery porn.
>I stopped reading when I finally noticed the series was at it's most creative and clever solely when it was exploring ways to torment people.
>for the most part it's just torture and misery porn
No one gets satire anymore.
>if you can't afford your bills
Motherfricker there's UBI that pays for literally all your necessities. The entire reason there's so much crime is that robots do so much that most people are jobless and bored out of their skull.
They also have no self worth, which compounds the issue. Why there's insane jobs like being a shop mannequin. There's also the fact being a criminal is an occupation of sorts.
I remember one story Dredd showed some mercy, sentencing the guy to hard labour. He was so happy.
>I stopped reading when I finally noticed the series was at it's most creative and clever solely when it was exploring ways to torment people.
That's fine. You had best bail out now.
You're not going to enjoy brittish humor very much. That's fine anon.
>In most crapsack world fiction, you at least have one person or group trying to be better. In Judge Dredd's world, no one tries
What about the helltrekkers? Certainly the world of judge dredd is fricked up but there are individuals trying to make things better and rebuild society.
If you dig those then the next few volumes are going to absolutely blow your mind.
I can't wait!
I'd saw a vid on yt about the old school dredd comics and its what spurred me to buy vol 1. the stuff he covered in the yt vid speaks on "Block mania" and I can't wait to get to that part, he spoiled for me a bit with the whole sending nukes into an alternate dimension and destroying an alternate Earth (lol wow)
You are too enthusiastic for this shitty board anon.. keep reading comics.
If he avoids modern English language comics then there's no reason why he should lose that enthusiasm.
Late to the Dredd Party? That's three months in the cube.
Dredd went to shit in the 90s when Ennis took over and they were never able to walk it back.
Bullshit.
The strip does generally improve when Wagner becomes the main writer again in the late 90s were it's remained...fine along with the rest of 2000AD since rebellion bought the book
my interpretation is that the robot war is supposed to be a metaphor for both rome's servile wars and workers going on strike although not a particularly deep one.
I stumbled across Dredd in my teens in the early 00's while going through my mom's comic book stash. She had a bunch of the old American Color reprints from Eagle and Fleetway/Quality
It felt like getting your hands on some very dangerous material and I loved the black humor and social satire. I tried reading other series from 2000AD, but none of them really grabbed me like Dredd did
I think some of my favorite stories are "The Day The Law Died", "Sump's Ugly Clinic", "Block War", "The Umpty Baggers", "The Pirates Of The Black Atlantic", "The Fink", "Mega-way Madness", "Death Lives", "Any Confessions", "The Blitz Agencies", "Synthetti Men", "The Exo-Men", "The Forever Crimes", "Mob Blitzers", and "The Great Muldoon"
Maybe that's B&W, but it got a nice most consistent number of good art