You're right. An easy paycheck and an even easier Oscar is foolish. Real actors are on the streets. They're your waiters. They're the pseuds that pretend to be real actors who decide what other actors should be ashamed of. They're those actors on Broadway who can sing but not really act, but you trick yourself into thinking are serious actors anyway.
watch any interview with phoenix, he's a Cinemaphile tier moron contrarian.
he probably seethed against mainstream when he made joker and then when he saw incel memes about joker he probably seethed about that and decided to make it into cultural backwash.
they had to do this because the first movie was a huge win for men with mental illness, but since this is a white male issue, they had to supress it somehow.
funny because the ones who liked it the most were Black folk, white americans are not so different from them, the big difference is that Black folk get told nothing for acting like that although sometimes they find a racist cop who shots them
That's because for whatever reason they get off on watching a nobody rise to the heights of being a notorious crime lord. It's their version of the heroes journey.
women can't make anything themselves. Hell, they're claim to fame is pumping out babies and not only can they not do that on their own, but they end up dropping the ball and axing it before the goal line. Women really are just the worst.
>lets not, for GOD'S sake, make the character sexy in any way >after all, that's not an integral part of the character in the comics >no, wearing an argylle sweater and some tights should be just about enough flavor
so what's everyone's basis for dooming about this movie? Is the fact that a woman is now involved the problem? Is the character now wholly unrelatable to you?
-musical
-he's not really "joker" anyway just "a joker" but it's guaranteed to get more connections shoved in
seriously the first one didn't need any connection to joker at all to be the movie it was, and all those connections detracted from it imo
-lady gaga
-the first drew a lot of undesired love from the "wrong people" and hate from the "right people" but was a massive success so guarantees interference and heavy handed allegory
It's better to assume the worst so no matter what, you aren't disappointed
>Female jokers have existed before in comics >"Do something different" >It's now a musical >"Don't do something differen't"
lol
-musical
-he's not really "joker" anyway just "a joker" but it's guaranteed to get more connections shoved in
seriously the first one didn't need any connection to joker at all to be the movie it was, and all those connections detracted from it imo
-lady gaga
-the first drew a lot of undesired love from the "wrong people" and hate from the "right people" but was a massive success so guarantees interference and heavy handed allegory
It's better to assume the worst so no matter what, you aren't disappointed
>so what's everyone's basis for dooming about this movie?
Indiana Jones 5 and Little Mermaid being massive flops, anyone not working for the mouse is aware that Joker 2 will obviously do well
Hangover 2 and Hangover 3 are the strongest evidence for why this one is almost guaranteed to suck.
At least it’ll likely go out as a strange bad “musical wtf” sequel which IMO is preferable to a lazy boring generic knock-off JJ Abrams sequel. Although there might be a lot of rehashing in this one, doing the stairs and even the elevator again.
genuinely love lady gaga so don’t care, this will either be for a promotion shoot or a dream sequence
musicals are kino and i don’t care what anyone says
>we live in a timeline where the guy who did the hangover made a scorsese ripoff based on a children's comic book and it not only won the silver lion, it was praised universally as a masterpiece and a sequel ordered
I'd just like to point out that a Harley Quinn movie has already been made.
It is literally so bad that most people don't even register it as such. Or as a film of any kind. Like your brain doesn't even put Joker and the female standalone Harley Quinn movie in the same compartment.
Is that lady goo?
women ruining everything and making it about themselves as usual
You know, as an actor, Pheonix should be ashamed to do this film.
You're right. An easy paycheck and an even easier Oscar is foolish. Real actors are on the streets. They're your waiters. They're the pseuds that pretend to be real actors who decide what other actors should be ashamed of. They're those actors on Broadway who can sing but not really act, but you trick yourself into thinking are serious actors anyway.
Thank you for helping to make fun of the homosexuals here
Lmao what? So he should do anything for money or fame?
i´m sure he´s ashamed to do the first one too
watch any interview with phoenix, he's a Cinemaphile tier moron contrarian.
he probably seethed against mainstream when he made joker and then when he saw incel memes about joker he probably seethed about that and decided to make it into cultural backwash.
my hope is that he was annoyed that the first movie was so popular and will spend this entire film shitting on people who took it seriously.
Even Christian Bale did Marvel shit, at this point no actor is not greedy enough to do it
I get all this shit was already done by king of comedy but still
>make iconic film
>immediately cheapen it with a parody sequel
they had to do this because the first movie was a huge win for men with mental illness, but since this is a white male issue, they had to supress it somehow.
funny because the ones who liked it the most were Black folk, white americans are not so different from them, the big difference is that Black folk get told nothing for acting like that although sometimes they find a racist cop who shots them
That's because for whatever reason they get off on watching a nobody rise to the heights of being a notorious crime lord. It's their version of the heroes journey.
Will there be more pedo music to make the audience gasp/cringe? Was amusing the second time I saw it knowing what was coming.
hello my girlfriend, i know this really great staircase, we should go check it out sometime
>Oh no! They're walking straight towards the stairs that make you dance!
women can't make anything themselves. Hell, they're claim to fame is pumping out babies and not only can they not do that on their own, but they end up dropping the ball and axing it before the goal line. Women really are just the worst.
Can't live with them, can't live without them.
whats the meaning of the visor?
Jacks just working on the vaporwave groove.
It's homosexual Boogaloo Nick Fuentes Hawaii wear.
lady goo, makes this instantly feel like a studio money grab.
as usual, japan does it better
is that TANAKER?
JOEKAH N-
now i want a feudal japan adaptation of joker
Batman Ninja exists.
looks more like hisoka
>xiaobaosg
>Japan
My God, it's really gonna be shit, isn't it?
i can't believe they ever okayed it being a musical, I won't see it in theater because of that and I saw the last one
I revoke my previous post, continue dooming.
they are using the steps again?
HOLY SHIT IT'S THE JOKER STAIRS HEY EVERYBODY IT'S THE JOKER STAIRS LOOK
JOKER STAIRS
JOKER STAIRS
do you think harleequinn will have a unique handshake or trademark that we will remember her by
Is that Helen Mirren giving a rock on sign to Gaga?
>rock on sign
check out the tard
Mirren's giving the devil horns. Gaga's giving the I love you sign.
don't you get it it's an owl sign, they're illuminati and are obiously going to eat babies, open your eyes sheeple
This but unironically. Lady Gaga is best friends with Marina Abramovich.
> rock on sign
FRICKING CRINGE
I actually really liked the first movie, but as a standalone film. I don't want a sequel.
>lets not, for GOD'S sake, make the character sexy in any way
>after all, that's not an integral part of the character in the comics
>no, wearing an argylle sweater and some tights should be just about enough flavor
Joaquin Joker isn’t sexy either. Giving Harley a gross junkie look makes sense here.
Lady Flopga about to flop again.
God, I hope so. Pop stars deserve the rope.
This is going to suck.
so what's everyone's basis for dooming about this movie? Is the fact that a woman is now involved the problem? Is the character now wholly unrelatable to you?
Lady googoo
Oh okay I didn't realize. Who she is aside though is she a shit actor?
She's way too old. She would have been a great choice 15 years ago though.
1. it being a musical
2. extraordinarily rare for dramas to have good sequels
basically they should've quit while they're ahead
Yeah I take it back, musical instantly kills any excitement I could muster.
>Female jokers have existed before in comics
>"Do something different"
>It's now a musical
>"Don't do something differen't"
lol
-musical
-he's not really "joker" anyway just "a joker" but it's guaranteed to get more connections shoved in
seriously the first one didn't need any connection to joker at all to be the movie it was, and all those connections detracted from it imo
-lady gaga
-the first drew a lot of undesired love from the "wrong people" and hate from the "right people" but was a massive success so guarantees interference and heavy handed allegory
It's better to assume the worst so no matter what, you aren't disappointed
It didn't need a fricking sequel
>so what's everyone's basis for dooming about this movie?
Indiana Jones 5 and Little Mermaid being massive flops, anyone not working for the mouse is aware that Joker 2 will obviously do well
Hangover 2 and Hangover 3 are the strongest evidence for why this one is almost guaranteed to suck.
At least it’ll likely go out as a strange bad “musical wtf” sequel which IMO is preferable to a lazy boring generic knock-off JJ Abrams sequel. Although there might be a lot of rehashing in this one, doing the stairs and even the elevator again.
>lady gaga
>musical
I won't watch anything she's in.
>When you invite your girlfriend to be part of your Tiktok video.
Never ends well.
Will they post the national guard outside theaters again? That shit was funny
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this is so moronic. The last one had a couple good memes but now its over.
Cinemaphile is full of crybaby homosexuals
>What if.... the epic incel.......had LE GIRLFRIEND?
This film is going to be the biggest flop after Indiana Jones
Yeah he killed people and got a gf. It’s hybristophilia, why women love Ted Bundy.
>have sex chud
NOOOOOOOOO
clownbros I don't feel so good
>remember the stair scene?
>well we brought it back!
BRAVO
Shills are really out to get this movie same as the first one. I wonder if the femcel will be vilified the same way.
will there be and angry sex scene the turn into a rape culture promotion video?
lady gaga can't make kino sex scenes coz she's self conscious about her breasts and won't go topless
>she's self conscious about her breasts and won't go topless
It's over
Are you kidding? She showed her breasts in A Star Is Born, which was just a few years ago and was produced by the director of this new movie.
Can modern women do anything original at all?
Post your Joker II kino watching gear.
I'm making a suit.
genuinely love lady gaga so don’t care, this will either be for a promotion shoot or a dream sequence
musicals are kino and i don’t care what anyone says
What were they thinking when they greenlighted this?
>first movie make money... Ugg think second movie make money too!
>we live in a timeline where the guy who did the hangover made a scorsese ripoff based on a children's comic book and it not only won the silver lion, it was praised universally as a masterpiece and a sequel ordered
It wasn't a ripoff, it won the GOLDEN lion and it wasn't universally praised, most MCU reviewers were paid to hate the movie
>a scorsese ripoff
so you admit its more than one scorsese movie? i count 3 at least
>send in the clowns starts playing
did they develop a sequel specifically to take joker away from incels as a symbol? here, he has a gf guys, that's the premise
LOOK GIRL JOKER DOES THE DANCE TOO!
I'd just like to point out that a Harley Quinn movie has already been made.
It is literally so bad that most people don't even register it as such. Or as a film of any kind. Like your brain doesn't even put Joker and the female standalone Harley Quinn movie in the same compartment.
But... it happened.
get this the joker but we add a 2 to the end and instead of the joker its a girl joker
This is like the Austin Powers' sequels: a movie franchise doing a parody on its previous entry.
Sex with drunk lady gaga
>what if we did the stairs thing again
creatively bankrupt