hair transplants are incredibly common among people who are in front of a camera as their job, and people should know just how affordable it's become to reorganize the hair on your head. you can pay less than 5k to go from left to right, all expenses paid fly down to turkey to get it done in 2 days, a week stay to make sure everything sits right, and fly back with no swelling looking like you got a buzz cut, and in 6 months you'll look 10 years younger.
i am going to save up money to do just this in about 1 year
That's actually pretty reasonable if it sticks throughout the years. There are people who pay more than that to barely make a change to their nose. Having a good hairline is just one way to look healthy and young as long as possible. Unfortunately I'm already balding and unless my insurance starts covering hair transplants I'm not likely to get one anytime soon. I would rather just be ugly.
Nah, for some works only Turkey and places like Hungary, Spain, even India have the surgeons with the balls to actually make you look good
One example is Hasson & Wong in Vancouver, it used to be top notch and the number one destination of the ultra wealthy, but this past decade they've practically became butchers, they are just coasting off their past reputation and being "westerners"
Lack of regulation you mean. You purposefully (or ignorantly) choose to ignore all the negatives of surgical tourism, namely, the high failure rate, the botched standards, and the chance to die from an infection that your sketchy surgeon did not anticipate or care about giving to you.
Did he really? Turkey only has like 3-4 top tier clinics and people only go there to save money. Why the frick would McGregor go there when there are a lot of top tier clinics all over burgerland and europe?
hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
no bro, he didn't wtf
Yeah. There's a before after of his hairline after his Turkey vacation sometime after the heem snappy iirc. The timeline and locations are too suspicious to be coincidental.
I'm an MMA fan, and I was curious how much juice he was going to get on (lots) and if he'd cause any more international incidents. I wasn't expecting his hairline to change, but it did.
say what you will about the roaches, but they've made a name for themselves in the world of cosmetic surgery, reputable work and affordable by western standards because 5k there for them is worth what 20k is for us over here. used to be like this when people traveled to japan. your USD would carry you across the country in luxury. not so much anymore, but turkey is still like that.
the less grafts you get, the less it costs. in turkey, you can get upwards of 5 thousand grafts (several actual hair follicles per graft, so that's something like 15-20k follicles). if you had a little norwood going on but fine otherwise, probably cost several thousand less. the issue with "just a little bit" though is that they may be able to fill that shit in, but then the weak hair may progress past that point, leaving weird patches in the top of your head if you end up receeding past the part they fixed. it's typically why they just take care of the whole area rather than do just a bit.
I got it done and it's definitely worth it. But the industry is the wild west. Like 90% of the clinics out there are terrible at it and it's just regular plastic surgeons taking 1 course and offering it because it's a huge cashcow.
If you want to get it done, you go to the IAHRS website and look at their members list. It's an invite-only organizations for the best hair transplant surgeons in the world. There are only like 100 members while there are tens of thousands of clinics that offer it. Yes, it's pricier than getting it done by some amateur but if you're getting surgery on your head you don't want to frick around with the cheapest options and find out how bad it can get
Same bro. Before I didn't really care about it much but once half your head is bald you really do want it back. The guy in the mirror just isn't the same anymore.
I’m thinking of doing it myself, but I’m worried it’ll look obvious. These people have special stylists who can make their hair look natural.
every single hair transplant looks bad. they are all noticeable and all look silly in the same way. and the worst part is your natural hair will continue to fall out around the fake implanted hair unless you hop on drugs for the rest of your life to slow it down
every single hair transplant looks bad
Matthew McConaugheys transplant made him go from looking like a deranged sexual predator to becoming rated among the sexiest men on the planet. The frick are you on about?
He looked badass for a brief spell before his hair magically came back after he rubbed something on his head and shook hands with a shaman (his actual cover story)
They have no choice but to lie for PR reasons, no matter how obvious it is. Even the ones who get bogged into oblivion lie and say that the reason they now look like a deep sea creature was because they had to get a necessary medical procedure as opposed to cosmetic surgery or 5000 litres of botox
I know but I still don't want to feel like I'm /fraud/ing, and more importantly I don't want to take fin.
I'm sure I'll probably bite the norwood bullet sonner or later, but I'll experiment with the cueball aesthetic first. I'm ugly as is, with and without hair, and women for some reason have been drawn to me for as long as I remember.
He mogs me on account of having pretty good hair. Whatever it is, I'm not complaining. I've seen some very handsome people on social media complain in terms of not getting attention. I think a lot of it boils down to psychology.
You cheap out and they frick it up. You might have to do it again or have weird bald spots in a decade. But, for most guys, their ability to date decent women is over by 35 anyway - who cares if you have a fricked up hairline in your 50s.
I've had a similar experience although I'm married nowadays. I don't think I became a whole lot better looking, but I wised up.
Old me would stress out about the tiniest little thing.
The catch is that if you dont do proper research on which clinics are good beforehand, then you will spend the rest of your life wishing you never got it done
>Turkey
That sounds sketchy. Celebrities sure as hell aren’t flying to Turkey to get this done, they go to Beverley Hills or New York
Nah, for some works only Turkey and places like Hungary, Spain, even India have the surgeons with the balls to actually make you look good
One example is Hasson & Wong in Vancouver, it used to be top notch and the number one destination of the ultra wealthy, but this past decade they've practically became butchers, they are just coasting off their past reputation and being "westerners"
I went to a hair doctor in Chicago last summer for a consultation and they quoted me $7500 to round out my temple areas
Current
your head shape is bizarre and offputting you have soft genes at best
4 months ago
Anonymous
hahahaha what dude you have nothing to work with to begin with
ok so you add that extra hair it still looks fricking awful wtf are you blind or stupid??
that really hit a nerve, huh? i'm not even the baldie who posted his head
4 months ago
Anonymous
of course, you look like shit why would I not plainly state that
why are you all such emotional spazzes over correct statements and always wrong about your interpretations, its wild
hahahaha what dude you have nothing to work with to begin with
ok so you add that extra hair it still looks fricking awful wtf are you blind or stupid??
Hair isn't terrible but it looks dry and the cut sucks. Get some good conditioner
Your skin looks fricked around the nose and neck, use a better razor/sensitive shaving cream and maybe fix your diet, quit drinking if you do
it'll look a bit thicker than that and that will look moronic if they don't add any side head hair too. but yeah, it's not SUPER crazy boxing you in looking like some ps2 character, but you will look healthier.
You'd be paying about 30% of what the top clinics in the US charge, so the result would likely be mediocre. Or even a bad result if you're doing it at a regular cosmetic clinic as opposed to a clinic that specializes in only hair transplants
Please cinsider getting prp therapy. I got it and am seeing new growth i thiught i would never get. I was an early norwood 4, and im starting to peel back to a norwood 3. And i think it will keep creepong if i keep going. I cannot recommend this procedure wnough
dont do it on turkey my dad did and his head looked like some vicious infection for like 2 months
sure now he has hair but unless you plan on going on hibernation for 2 months and not go out of your house you should just pay the extra
>his head looked like some vicious infection for like 2 months
doesnt matter where you go, this is always going to happen
its a transplant surgery, over and over and over again all over your skull which didnt have great bloodflow to begin with
the trauma will take awhile to heal
>can't afford it yet >even if I could, it's a bad time to be flying right now >not to mention the tension in the middle east, wouldn't want to be near that shit right now
people who are too far gone don't benefit from a transplant because quite literally, all they're doing is reorganizing the existing hair on your head. if you're full patrick stewart it does nothing for you. if you're norwood 1 or 2, you get it done and hop on fin, you're set for like 10-15 years and by that time you'll have slayed as much puss as you were ever going to.
Had a HS in April. One of the best decisions I've ever made. Cost me 4800 to get it done in The Netherlands. Family and friends are constantly shocked how much hair I got now. You're making a good choice, Anon.
FUE or FUT? I'm considering getting one here in Canada. Overall it's cheaper than travelling and staying in turkey. I only need my temples filled in a bit and the frontline bolstered so it's a maximum 1500 graft procedure.
FUE. Had 4100 grafts done. I was pretty much fully relying on Toppik before it. I'm on Finasteride 1mg a day and minoxidil too. Lmk if you have any other questions. Good luck man.
How long for the results? I've seen some have the hairs shed out then return to normal in like 4-5 months, but most say it take a year for the transplant to be growing in properly.
FUT is basically obsolete, no one does FUT anymore. you'd look moronic with a giant scar on the back of your head making the hair move pointless.
That's not true actually. For first time procedures most doctors recc the FUT because: >30% more of the transplanted hairs take longterm than FUE which has a higher rate of damaging follicles on extraction >it leaves possibility for FUE touch up procedures in the future
The scare meme is from procedures in the 90's. Modern procedures are not any more noticeable than the speckled FUE scars.
1 week after HS: swelling is gone, few scabs on scalp left.
2 week after HS: no more scabs on scalp, baby hairs are appearing, you like like you have a buzzcut.
1 month after HS: most babyhairs have fallen out right now.
2 months after HS: you grow very little amount of hair on transplanted area
3-4 months after HS: hair starts to grow longer, but it's far from a full head of hair
5 months: huge increase in hair
6 months: pretty much full head of hair, with just the crown looking a little thin
8 months: full head of hair, nobody would ever be able to tell you had work done
This is how it went for me, people may have different experiences. Overall I'm real happy I did it. Just make sure you go to a good clinic.
He famously got plugs after season 1. In season 1 they intentionally combed his hair like that to show off the thinning hair, to make Michael slightly creepy and more like Gervais' version of the character.
The hair is just fin and minox, possibly transplant restoration. His eyes is the big thing that makes him look so much younger. Those bags under the eyes are a killer. Is this just make up?
they intentionally made his hair appear thinner in season one, he was supposed to look like a sleazy jerk and they dressed him to look that way.
in season 9 he is supposed to look a bit older and more lovable, changes that happened gradually over the course of the series but were played up in his cameo for obvious reasons.
any other changes are obviously from steve carrell becoming more fit.
tl:dr he never had bad hair to begin with, you're just dumb.
>they intentionally made his hair appear thinner in season one, he was supposed to look like a sleazy jerk and they dressed him to look that way. > >in season 9 he is supposed to look a bit older and more lovable
Isn't that funny
If you're balding then you're sleazy. If you have a full head of hair then you're lovable.
kek
I remember they always made fun of Michael's height on the show. I thought the guy was 5'6 or something, but he's 5'9, why did the writers do that to me, bros?
americans are superficial wackos who hate nature and seek to cheat death because they know god hates them. You look at everthing America has done in the last 50 years and you can tell they have lost any sense of masculinity within themselves for the sake of money and looking the other way while satanic criminals literally burn the world down around them.
a hair transplant is basically the same thing as restoring teeth you lost. you don't become someone you're not. you're just going back to the way you used to and were supposed to look. balding is a disease and i'll fight it
but you have to understand, putting more hair on your head is not embracing who you really are. but the same thing does not apply when i shave my hair to hide my hairline
Shaving your head doesn’t hide your hairline though, so it’s not the same as getting a hair transplant, which is basically the male version of getting fake breasts and lip fillers because you don’t feel pretty
>fake breasts
Turns you into someone you're not >lip fillers
Turns you into someone you're not >hair transplant
Keeps you the way you are instead of admitting defeat to some dumbass genetic disease that has zero evolutionary benefit whatsoever
>genetic disease that has zero evolutionary benefit whatsoever
it signals women you're past your expiration date
4 months ago
Anonymous
I heard it may have been sexually selected for looking interesting. I guess that's plausible if you imagine how hairy people once were. I wouldn't be surprised if it was part of the eusocial breeding strategy of humans, just like menopausal women: men with bald fathers or grandfathers had fewer men to compete with for mates, their child had more caregivers, thus the children thrived.
4 months ago
Anonymous
An awful lot of guys seem to expire in their early 20s
It’s not keeping you the way you are though, by definition it’s at the very least trying to get you back to what you used to be. If it makes you feel better about yourself fair enough, personal choice, but it’s living a lie and born of insecurity. I’ll never be dying my greying beard for instance to try and pretend I’m still 21.
4 months ago
Anonymous
>It’s not keeping you the way you are though, by definition it’s at the very least trying to get you back to what you used to be
What's wrong with that? Are you suggesting if people put on weight they shouldn't try and lose it?
4 months ago
Anonymous
They’re not the same thing at all. Like I said, if they feel better, it’s their choice, good luck to them. But it’s living a lie and no different to an ugly chick using cosmetic sorcery to try and look good on a night out.
4 months ago
Anonymous
>They’re not the same thing at all.
Right, one is completely on the person and the other is completely out of their control but doesn't need to be.
4 months ago
Anonymous
One persons hair remains the same as it had been for the 20 previous years.
The other person looks nothing like who they are.
They're not the same thing at all. Holy shit, you're a coping baldie
4 months ago
Anonymous
You are very insecure about this for some reason.
4 months ago
Anonymous
>But it’s living a lie
Do you say the same about people who go to the gym to transform their bodies? >it's just a lie bro you were originally skinnyfat, you're just insecure!
4 months ago
Anonymous
Literally just said they’re not the same thing at all. Sucks if you’re not comfortable with yourself, but let’s not be silly.
4 months ago
Anonymous
bro you literally sound insecure as frick
why on earth would you not maximize your looks
you sound like poor person coping
4 months ago
Anonymous
And out of curiosity, how do you feel about women who drastically alter their appearances with makeup, fillers, weaves, etc? Ever woken up next to a minger who looked very different the night before, or had a date show up looking nothing like her pictures? Just curious, because you’re basically one of them. But yeah, I’m the insecure one. Sure.
4 months ago
Anonymous
adding hair back to where it left is nothing like what you're sperging over
we get it, you're ugly and think its cool to not try
girls with fake breasts are kino as frick too
not that you'll ever experience it
4 months ago
Anonymous
>girls with fake breasts are kino as frick too
Depends anon, sometimes it looks like shit. I'm not the guy you're replying to, but basically, you have to know the limits if you're going to do plastic surgery.
And if someone isn't good naturally, a few face lifts and a fake ass won't do much to change that.
4 months ago
Anonymous
And look at what the pretty girl from The Boys did to herself. Looks like Roger the alien now
4 months ago
Anonymous
I agree
I really hope you’re a teenager. If you’re an adult spazzing out like this because somebody else is comfortable in themselves, no amount of surgical help will fix what’s really missing from you. Good luck.
there's nothing missing bud, I'm charming, wealthy and astonishingly attractive >inb4 nuh uh no one like that comes here ever only uggos like me do
4 months ago
Anonymous
You just choose not to utilise the charm when you’re slumming it online?
4 months ago
Anonymous
I'm not wasting it an goblins like you plus it's fun to put you in your place like you deserve
4 months ago
Anonymous
Yeah, great job. You’ll always be insecure about who you are. Don’t forget it. Nobody else will
4 months ago
Anonymous
>You’ll always be insecure about who you are.
damn you caught me in 4k guess I'll never be handsome anymore because you said so damn
4 months ago
Anonymous
I really hope you’re a teenager. If you’re an adult spazzing out like this because somebody else is comfortable in themselves, no amount of surgical help will fix what’s really missing from you. Good luck.
4 months ago
Anonymous
>because somebody else is comfortable in themselves
If you were comfortable in yourself you wouldn't be shaving your head twice a week
4 months ago
Anonymous
NTA but you can be comfy with a bald look and not a monk look, despite neither being the state of your hair as a kid.
4 months ago
Anonymous
The point I'm making is that this idiot is complaining about transplantflags not "showing who they really look like". While he himself does the exact same thing by shaving. If he was actually comfortable with himself he'd just let his hair grow out. But he's in denial and doesn't understanding that shaving is just coping just like the transplantgays are doing
4 months ago
Anonymous
I don’t even shave my head actually, you’re just falling back on assumptions you’ve made because you’re insecure. Let it go and try to accept yourself
4 months ago
Anonymous
confirmed uggo who wants everybody else to be ugly too.
remember not to shower either. it's important for people to smell your natural smells and not artificial soap
4 months ago
Anonymous
bro not trying is soooo cool
imagine being so fake you comb your hair like a woman and wash your clothes like a homosexual ughhhh what a try hard I bet you only frick for 10 minutes too not the 3 hour frick sesh champ like me does heh
4 months ago
Anonymous
Replying to yourself works better if you try to sound like a different person
4 months ago
Anonymous
Literally said repeatedly if surgery makes people feel better it’s their choice, but cool, you seem normal, confident, and generally well balanced, as well as no doubt incredibly conventionally attractive, physically fit and successful. Cough.
4 months ago
Anonymous
>but cool, you seem normal, confident, and generally well balanced, as well as no doubt incredibly conventionally attractive, physically fit and successful.
literally yes
you're projecting and it's repulsive frick off back to making your DIT cart threads homosexual
4 months ago
Anonymous
I actually don’t know what that means, I’m assuming you spend more time online than me
4 months ago
Anonymous
You're making moronic comparisons and people are calling you out for it. There are "degrees of bad" when it comes to plastic surgery, and "going back to the way I used to look" is the least degree of bad and something most people actually do at some point in their life, usually related to their teeth looking bad. "Becoming someone my mom wouldn't recognize" is on the opposite end of the spectrum and is obviously something 99% of people would never ever consider. I suspect you have autism for not understanding something this simple
4 months ago
Anonymous
You are weirdly worked up because someone said “if it makes you feel better fine, but it’s not for me”
4 months ago
Anonymous
Based fellow fitizen.
4 months ago
Anonymous
Dumbest shit I've ever read. Guarantee this dude stinks like BO constantly and only thinks he smells like nothing because he got used to the smell.
4 months ago
Anonymous
>be me virgin in college >read all kinds of stuff on Cinemaphile about getting women (~2012, very different to what gets memed today) >one dude on Cinemaphile says women like male pheromones >advises to save ball sweat in a ziploc after every workout and dab it on like aftershave before going out >save up 1 weeks worth of ball sweat by collecting with a paper towel and replacing into ziploc >finally test out the theory >show up to class, sit in regular seat >slowly a radius of empty seats form around me
4 months ago
Anonymous
The best dating "advice" is practice to the point where you naturally start to get a "feel" for what to do. Cinemaphile is terminally blackpilled and would drive Brad Pitt to suicide.
I literally knew someone who used to spend most of his time here and was convinced he would never be seen as human by anyone, until one girl basically forced herself into becoming his gf. He suddenly became a normie shortly thereafter and his whole demeanor changed.
4 months ago
Anonymous
Cinemaphile isn't blackpilled enough on certain topics.
4 months ago
Anonymous
Being terminally blackpilled just results in a poorer quality of wife, which wouldn't be an issue if life itself wasn't so short or if so many of the things people cared about actually mattered.
It's not good to be overly optimistic but being perpetually pessimistic can be even more detrimental. It's best to just be a realist and play with the cards you've been dealt to the best of your ability.
4 months ago
Anonymous
>wife
Probably didn't slip in there by chance since I'm married, but yes, life too.
4 months ago
Anonymous
Cinemaphile isn't blackpilled enough about social circles, timing, and dating prospects. If you haven't locked down someone who's fiance material by senior year of college, the quality of women decreases dramatically.
4 months ago
Anonymous
There isn't really a rule to these things, anon. People in college are pretty dumb and locking down someone when you could've found someone better is sub-optimal.
But being hellbent that you're like, 22, and it's already "over" for you because you were a nerd in High School is dangerously naive.
A lot of anons also tend to cut themselves short.
I say actually try to become what you want to be, as well as achieve, and then call it quits.
4 months ago
Anonymous
>People in college are pretty dumb and locking down someone when you could've found someone better is sub-optimal.
You're not realistically in as good of a position to meet smart women from good families that look after themselves in their 20s, without a lot of relationship mileage and baggage as you are in college.
If I could go back and slap 18-19yo me for caring more about my GPA than trying to socialize and meet women, because it only gets harder, I would.
4 months ago
Anonymous
I've met four women from Cinemaphile over the course of 18 years. One of them is my fiancee. They've all been normal people.
4 months ago
Anonymous
I’ve only ran into guys who I later found out were Cinemaphileners, but they were all normal, although on the nerdy side. People who say that all Cinemaphileners are [insert negative thing] are just losers who are projecting
4 months ago
Anonymous
This place is poisonous to people without life experience. A mixture of bitterness and disinformation has a lot of young men believing they're hopeless. Argue with these ignorant incels and they only double down.
4 months ago
Anonymous
you're supposed to mix the ball sweat with ass sweat and dab it on your face to get the full effects
4 months ago
Anonymous
classic (C L A S S I C)
i miss old 4ch
4 months ago
Anonymous
I loved Cinemaphile, almost as magical as /k/ommandos back in the day.
4 months ago
Anonymous
4 months ago
Anonymous
Womens value is in their appearance, they have always been concerned with looking good for men.
Men have only started commonly doing this gay shit for like 15 years. Even in the 00s balding men who tried to cope with hair pieces or weird fake hair were the butt of jokes. Meanwhile, masculine bald men are common throughout all of history.
You don't need to compare the things you do to what women do because you are not one. Men and women are different.
4 months ago
Anonymous
Transplants and shaving are both cowardice. The only men who get to legitimately talk shit are those who grow their hair out no matter how terrible their hairline is. Those are the guys who accept themselves for who they are. Not the transplant guys. Not the cowardly shavers
4 months ago
Anonymous
Hair is basically like teeth. If I lose a teeth, yeah, I'm going to get a fake one so I dont look like a crazy hillbilly. Calling it insecurity is fine. I just don't want to look like fricking shit, that's all
4 months ago
Anonymous
>Hair is basically like teeth.
and a cure for fixing both has been five years away for the last 50 years
4 months ago
Anonymous
If you lose your teeth in an accident or something, I get it. I watched a friend smash his teeth out, man needs to be able to chew food. It’s personal choice, but it is vanity rather than necessity. Like I said, if it makes people feel better about themselves, it’s their choice
4 months ago
Anonymous
You can chew just fine while missing 1 tooth in front, but most people would still get it fixed. Going back to the way they were supposed to look. Insecurity, vanity, you call it whatever you want
4 months ago
Anonymous
In the case of hair though it’s clearly not how they were supposed to look, as clearly they were supposed to go bald, it’s trying to look how they want to look, in most likelihood wanting to look more like they did when they were younger. It’s fine, but no sense lying to ourselves about it. Travolta for instance looked ridiculous for years trying to hide it, now he finally looks age appropriate and dignified rather than like an ageing drag queen.
4 months ago
Anonymous
>they were supposed to go bald
What a fricking stupid thing to say. Only like 30% of men bald. There's nothing good about accepting defeat just because you hit the shit-genetics lottery.
If I have a genetic illness that makes my ears grow twice the size they are now, you better fricking bet I'm getting surgery to go back to the way I used to look
4 months ago
Anonymous
Something like seventy percent of men lose their hair with age actually
4 months ago
Anonymous
80% of men have some degree of hair loss by 35.
4 months ago
Anonymous
>not how they were supposed to look
you're not supposed to be telling me your dumbass opinion right now, yet you are
4 months ago
Anonymous
No matter how much money you spend on transplants and meds that you’re terrified to miss you’ll always know in your heart you’re a bald guy and you’ll fear that others know it too and they will
4 months ago
Anonymous
>but it’s living a lie and born of insecurity. I’ll never be dying my greying beard for instance to try and pretend I’m still 21.
because you're an ugly homosexual
nothing wrong with hot bros maintaining, you pedentic worm
4 months ago
Anonymous
You seem really secure in yourself and must be drowning in pussy kek
4 months ago
Anonymous
I literally am and it's because of my looks
which are genuinely the only thing that matters in real life you spergy twerp
4 months ago
Anonymous
Yes, that’s why you’re arguing about men’s appearances on Cinemaphile on a Friday
4 months ago
Anonymous
yes and?
where should I be at a high-powered board room meeting?
go back to gaddonposting you offputting moron
4 months ago
Anonymous
From your previous comments you’d think you’d be getting laid. You know, because you’re so hot.
Careful not to summon that guy. Don’t really get her appeal. Pretty but nothing special as an actress.
4 months ago
Anonymous
getting laid takes 15 minutes homosexual >OMG DUDE WHY AREN'T YOU FRICKING 24/7
because I have beer to drink after my workout and I get fricked out and sick of girls jfc are you actually a frickless dweeb?
4 months ago
Anonymous
> getting laid takes 15 minutes homosexual
Wow, those ladies are really lucky kek
4 months ago
Anonymous
grow up you frickless moron
4 months ago
Anonymous
supporting your fellow bros is kino
you're being an ugly coping homosexual
4 months ago
Anonymous
I support them being confident in themselves. Like I said, people are free to do what makes them feel better. Sorry you can’t like yourself as you are. Have fun with the boys you think are good looking kek
>genetics determine tit size >Denying genetics turns you into someone you're not >Genetics determine hair thickness >Denying genetics turns me into who I really am
Too bad you can't get a brain transplant you fricking moron, kek
4 months ago
Anonymous
>get cancer >deny chemo and all treatment because my genetics have decided that it’s my turn to die
4 months ago
Anonymous
>Pointing out that it's hypocritical to claim one of vain medical procedure is wholly different than another vain medical procedure >This means you can't get CHEMO
based moron replyer >
4 months ago
Anonymous
All you morons talking about nature need a brain transplant. There are genes, that compel you to have hair. Then there are other, completely separate genes that frick up the plans of the first genes. Nature is not a coherent singular force, it's in a constant war with itself. I'm joining the war on the side that keeps my hairline from fricking up. Feel free to die from a flu because it's what nature intended
Hair transplants are common as frick in hollywood. When you win an Oscar, you even get a fricking gift card to a hair transplant clinic.
Most athletes on the other hand have to wait to get a transplant until after they retire, because reducing their DHT with finasteride would mess with their athletic performance. First thing Floyd Mayweather did when he retired? Hair transplant. First thing Conor McGregor did after he semi-retired? Hair transplant. Same with football players, soccer players, tennis players, whatever
Arent you suppose to take Finn after a transplant or it just falls out again? Also does anyone here take fin? I got a script but i heard it nukes libido
The transplanted hairs never fall out, but the rest of the natural hair keeps falling out if you dont use fin, and then it'll eventually look like pic related.
If you use minox or nothing at all, the transplant only becomes a 5-10 year extension on having dense hair. So then it's about priorities. Some dudes only want to have hair in their 20s and 30s and dont care if they have to shave when they're 40. While others want hair for life
>Doesn't Fin make your dick not work?
Only in about 2% of people. Could be higher as that's the recorded amount from clinical trials.
t. on fin and dick works fine
They just move your hair from the back/sides to the top of your head. The pills just make sure you stop balding so the rest of your natural hair doesnt fall out
>you have to take the pills or it all falls out anyway
The transplanted hair doesn't fall out. That's the point of relocating it from places where you never go bald.
You take the pills to slow down the process of non-transplanted hair from falling out.
Elon got his first transplant done way back when FUT was the standard method and they fricking sliced a big strip of meat from the back of your head. That was like 20 years ago and the extraction methods have come lightyears. Now there' barely scars if any at all
when I was a kid I thought we would be cloning organs and regrowing limbs by the time I reach 30. yet here we are, unable to even deal with extremely common shit like hair loss, diabetes, tinnitus, degrading eyesight
This one always weirded me out. His hair looked perfectly fine and dense back then and even had lots of white hairs, which never fall out so they're a sign that you won't be losing any more hair. And yet he got a transplant just to make it autistically symmetrical?
the widows peak made him look way older than he was. actors generally try to stay young-looking for as long as they can because there are more available roles
Imagine paying to have a receding hairline. Even if it's better than your actual hair. If I'm going to pay I want a NW0 young Brad Pitt tier hairline. Otherwise, what's the fricking point?
What I don't understand is how does it work? does it fall again? does it regrow? Do they need more hair transplants or they just treat it by patches of hair as time passes?
Depends on the person. If they use finasteride then 1 transplant is enough because the finasteride keeps the rest of their hair from falling out. If they dont use finasteride then they need to get another transplant after a few years to make up for the hair they lost
Be warned finasterid doesnt work wonders for everyone, taking it for years and my process never really stopped completely, just less and slower. Though this anon is right.
>develop slight widow peak by 22 >it stops >35 now >harline has possibly crept up a centimeter >still full head of hair
feels good man
the secret? diet and exercise. kek
I'm norwood 4 with a bad head shape for full bald but I'd rather cope than get a transplant. Cosmetic surgery is unnatural and I'm not going to buy into it just to be "competitive" for some narcissistic reason. Maybe that means I get less pussy or look bad. Frick it
If someone gets a procedure of any kind, they should do it for themselves, not others, for their own self-confidence.
Chasing the interest of others is basically a form of cucking yourself. Most people for example would become a different person if their parents died tomorrow, but they act in a certain way to appease them. It's sad but true.
>If someone gets a procedure of any kind, they should do it for themselves, not others, for their own self-confidence.
This is literally women's cope line about how they push out their breasts, squeeze their ass into tights and spend 2h on hair and makeup "just for themselves".
Looks are about attracting the opposite sex, always have been.
Genetically yes, but the thing is, you can feel unattractive regardless of whether you attract others or not.
A lot of people in relationships get plastic surgery despite already being attractive to another person.
Similarly, an ugly person might get a procedure and still not attract anyone, just for their own sake.
My point is, if you find yourself ugly to the point where it torments you mentally, then do whatever you can to change it. But if you're solely doing it to get 5 more instagram likes and not changing anything else, I don't think it's worth it.
>you can feel unattractive
The concept of attraction requires two parties. If you "feel unattractive" then you care how you're perceived by another party.
I think it's a case of you being unsatisfied with your own natty limit and wanting to improve it. Again, you can be accepted by everyone in the world and still be insecure.
People have it all and still kill themselves. Getting bogged in comparison isn't that drastic.
>the thing is, you can feel unattractive regardless of whether you attract others or not. > if you find yourself ugly to the point where it torments you mentally, then do whatever you can to change it.
I agree. However, this is still fundamentally based on being attractive to others. The whole point is to gain confidence by feeling that you are attractive to others, so it's not "for myself".
At least this can be said here. You cannot win this argument with a woman, she will never admit that she puts in serious effort to make sure men lust after her.
>However, this is still fundamentally based on being attractive to others
But a lot of the times these people already are. Obviously many people do it for others, but those who can't be content with their appearance no matter how much approval they get have a deeper issue. And in that regard, I think it's better for someone to go ahead with surgery instead of say, kill themselves. >so it's not "for myself".
That's also a good point, but therein lies another question of whether we really change, or just become more like ourselves.
In an RPG, you fashion your character to look the way you want them to look, regardless of what someone else would think. So I akin this level of bogging more to that, than the appeal of others. Not all bogs come from the same place.
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In a different age, I can see myself becoming bogged t b h. Nowadays I don't see the purpose of this effort bearing in mind the results. I don't want to go under the knife for like 2 dudes to tell me "great job bro" and getting my dick wet with a mildly more attractive woman than my current gf.
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>Obviously many people do it for others, but those who can't be content with their appearance no matter how much approval they get have a deeper issue.
We might just disagree here, but I have a very hard time believing anyone would bog themselves if they were the only person alive on Earth. And I believe that if that's true, then bogging is done to improve other people's view of you, and improved self image or self confidence is downstream of that.
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>anyone would bog themselves if they were the only person alive on Ear
I can agree with that, but I also think they'd still feel insecure if they're that kind of person who already is.
Not everything is built around the approval of others. For example I find the physical restraints of the human body underwhelming. Not on an aesthetic level but in the sense that I would prefer a less limiting physiology for humans, for them to be able to pick up buildings, run faster than a car, and so on. I'm genuinely irked that I'm unable to do this. But I'd be irked if I was the last person on Earth too.
>This is literally women's cope line
hit the nail on the head
If someone gets a procedure of any kind, they should do it for themselves, not others, for their own self-confidence.
Chasing the interest of others is basically a form of cucking yourself. Most people for example would become a different person if their parents died tomorrow, but they act in a certain way to appease them. It's sad but true.
>they should do it for themselves, not others, for their own self-confidence
But that's not why anyone gets it. If you're getting a cosmetic surgery, purely cosmetic with no medical benefit, you're doing it because you care how you're perceived by others. If everyone except you dropped off the face of the Earth, what would be the purpose of getting a hair transplant or a nosejob?
If that were the case, objectively attractive people wouldn't be bogging themselves so often. You CAN be accepted by others and still not accept yourself.
Look at shit like anorexia. This is mental. It often goes beyond just other people's acceptance.
Low self-image needs two parties, the self and the other who sees you. If you have poor self-image the bogging is excessive, but it's still inherently narcissistic
same I'm 29. Been a Norwood 2 since I was 20. I was fully convinced that I would be Joe Rogan tier by 25 but I was too much of a b***h to ever risk taking Finasteride.
It’s funny to me how hysterical bros are about Finasteride. Negative sides occur in less than 2% of men. If anything it made me hornier by increasing my test and my hairline has been frozen in place for the past 6 years.
It happens very suddenly. I'm 38 and went from 2 to 4 in the space of like 18 months. Decided to get on finasteride to see if it makes a difference. 3 months in and I lost even more hair but apparently shedding is part of the process. If I can keep what I've got I guess I'll be content but would really like to go back to what I had.
finasteride regrew hairline that i had lost 5 years prior which i read almost never happened, so i was a great responder. but after a few months i got negative sides so chose to quit. being bald sucks but having a working wiener is much more important
yeah i lost it. and nope. DHT is the hormone that controls both those things so if you lean too far either way, you’re shit out of luck and have to choose your hair or your dick
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DHT doesn't control boners. Dudes with no DHT can still get bones going.
The rare sexual sides from finasteride are most likely caused by raised estradiol levels from increased testosterone. The best stack involves a soft aromatase inhibitor like DIM and estrogen metabolizer like boron supplement. Should keep DHT low, test high, estradiol normal range. The above supplements won't obliterate your E levels like a full on medical grade AI would.
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>The best stack involves a soft aromatase inhibitor like DIM and estrogen metabolizer like boron supplement. Should keep DHT low, test high, estradiol normal range
link supplements pls
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DIM you can literally just search on Amazon although the best DIM was called Mega DIM and doesn't seem to be on Amazon anymore. Think the company went under. Don't know about the others yet. Boron supps you can get anywhere but DON'T overdo it as I think (this is just my experience) too much boron can also cause some hairloss. I noticed when I had 9mg of boron daily my hairloss progressed at the hairline despite the normal fin/min stack. Boron does balance out estrogen to test levels but like anything you shouldn't overdo it I guess.
I noticed I had sides from finasteride and started on the hormone balancing supps like these and within a week I was back to getting random boners, morning wood, etc. To me this is the solution for sides if you get them. Most dudes who get side effects start trying other shit thinking low test/DHT is the problem and try Tongkat, Ashwa, etc test boosters, not realizing that's just gonna make the estradiol problem worse as it's not addressing it.
if all that is solidly true, why isn't there a company that has bottled it together and sold it as a complete package? All the hair loss mail order stuff is pure fin
Not really much point. That's a bunch of different things to have to source and supply.
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if all that is solidly true, why isn't there a company that has bottled it together and sold it as a complete package? All the hair loss mail order stuff is pure fin
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Probably because they'd need to go through FDA testing again as well as patenting it etc. Why bother when it supposedly impacts such a small percentage of the users?
smart move. transplants is only for the guys who were too stubborn to jump on fin and then suddenly start panicking when they lose half their hair in the span of 6 months in their late 20s
It's the same shit ultimately. They're taking your own hair and moving it to the front.
It's just that with Fin you'd save more money. But if you're among those who get bad side effects, you're absolutely fricked.
That's why I don't plan on taking anything even if my hair goes to shit one day, unless the japanese develop that supposedly side-effect free miracle drug.
>unless the japanese develop that supposedly side-effect free miracle drug
The new thing is hair follicles grown from stem cells, so you dont need to extract from the back of your head and can get as many as you like so even superbald people can fill their whole head up. It has been in medical trials for a while because they need to observe how the follicles develop over several growth cycles, etc but it will probably hit the market within a couple of years. There's a long line of people who are waiting for it though and there will only be a few japanese clinics doing it in the beginning so it's going to be super fricking expensive the first few years
Stem-cells are generally the golden fleece of medicine for all manner of issues, they fix just about anything short of terminal disease. But big pharma and the gubmint also has a crazy choke hold on them.
I remember listening to Joe Rogan's podcast with Mel Gibson and how him and his dad had to go overseas to get proper stem cell treatment because in the US the laws are so fricked.
it's just a cultural thing. turks really care about hair so there was a lot of research into it. and when it became an international destination a lot of money started flowing in so even more clinics started opening up to deal with the large flow of people
People should not resort to plastic surgery (yes, that includes hair transplants) to hide their aging and shitty genetics. It's dishonest.
I have a full head of hair at the ripe age of 32, and it frustrates me to now end that liars, frauds and cheaters walk around pretending to be my equals. Frick all of you.
The most stealthy transplant in Hollywood is Walton Goggins. He got a hair transplant around season 2/3 of The Shield to maintain his fricked up hairline because he was losing hair really fast and they couldn’t have 2 fully bald main characters on the show
its crazy what diet and exercise can do for you.
And lots of money from a successful movie and television career. Don't forget the money.
>you can exercise your hairline back
Based moron
You know, when I was a kid it was a constant comedy punchline that men would try all sorts of snake oil remedies to regrow their hair.
Then along came finasteride and it actually works like people always hoped.
>Then along came finasteride and it actually works like people always hoped.
but it removes your balls?
>finasteride
It fricks with your T levels, and can increase risks of prostate cancer.
>increase risks of prostate cancer
Finasteride is used to treat/prevent prostate cancer, mate...
They styled his hair to look like that for season 1, they were going for the sleazy boss look
hair transplants are incredibly common among people who are in front of a camera as their job, and people should know just how affordable it's become to reorganize the hair on your head. you can pay less than 5k to go from left to right, all expenses paid fly down to turkey to get it done in 2 days, a week stay to make sure everything sits right, and fly back with no swelling looking like you got a buzz cut, and in 6 months you'll look 10 years younger.
i am going to save up money to do just this in about 1 year
godspeed anon. for you and your new fluffy head.
Wholesome.
That's actually pretty reasonable if it sticks throughout the years. There are people who pay more than that to barely make a change to their nose. Having a good hairline is just one way to look healthy and young as long as possible. Unfortunately I'm already balding and unless my insurance starts covering hair transplants I'm not likely to get one anytime soon. I would rather just be ugly.
>Turkey
That sounds sketchy. Celebrities sure as hell aren’t flying to Turkey to get this done, they go to Beverley Hills or New York
Nah, for some works only Turkey and places like Hungary, Spain, even India have the surgeons with the balls to actually make you look good
One example is Hasson & Wong in Vancouver, it used to be top notch and the number one destination of the ultra wealthy, but this past decade they've practically became butchers, they are just coasting off their past reputation and being "westerners"
>with the balls
Lack of regulation you mean. You purposefully (or ignorantly) choose to ignore all the negatives of surgical tourism, namely, the high failure rate, the botched standards, and the chance to die from an infection that your sketchy surgeon did not anticipate or care about giving to you.
You don’t know much about hair transplants then. Turkey is the transplant capital right now, and they have some of the best surgeons doing it.
Is Turkey the best place to get nose jobs too?
That'd be South Korea. All the zoomers and millenials there are made from plastic
Conor McGregor got his done in Turkey.
Did he really? Turkey only has like 3-4 top tier clinics and people only go there to save money. Why the frick would McGregor go there when there are a lot of top tier clinics all over burgerland and europe?
Yeah. There's a before after of his hairline after his Turkey vacation sometime after the heem snappy iirc. The timeline and locations are too suspicious to be coincidental.
imagine knowing any of this wtf
I'm an MMA fan, and I was curious how much juice he was going to get on (lots) and if he'd cause any more international incidents. I wasn't expecting his hairline to change, but it did.
hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
no bro, he didn't wtf
>fly down to turkey
say what you will about the roaches, but they've made a name for themselves in the world of cosmetic surgery, reputable work and affordable by western standards because 5k there for them is worth what 20k is for us over here. used to be like this when people traveled to japan. your USD would carry you across the country in luxury. not so much anymore, but turkey is still like that.
>turkey
>luxury
What does it cost to just fix a hairline a little bit?
the less grafts you get, the less it costs. in turkey, you can get upwards of 5 thousand grafts (several actual hair follicles per graft, so that's something like 15-20k follicles). if you had a little norwood going on but fine otherwise, probably cost several thousand less. the issue with "just a little bit" though is that they may be able to fill that shit in, but then the weak hair may progress past that point, leaving weird patches in the top of your head if you end up receeding past the part they fixed. it's typically why they just take care of the whole area rather than do just a bit.
I got it done and it's definitely worth it. But the industry is the wild west. Like 90% of the clinics out there are terrible at it and it's just regular plastic surgeons taking 1 course and offering it because it's a huge cashcow.
If you want to get it done, you go to the IAHRS website and look at their members list. It's an invite-only organizations for the best hair transplant surgeons in the world. There are only like 100 members while there are tens of thousands of clinics that offer it. Yes, it's pricier than getting it done by some amateur but if you're getting surgery on your head you don't want to frick around with the cheapest options and find out how bad it can get
Same bro. Before I didn't really care about it much but once half your head is bald you really do want it back. The guy in the mirror just isn't the same anymore.
I’m thinking of doing it myself, but I’m worried it’ll look obvious. These people have special stylists who can make their hair look natural.
every single hair transplant looks bad. they are all noticeable and all look silly in the same way. and the worst part is your natural hair will continue to fall out around the fake implanted hair unless you hop on drugs for the rest of your life to slow it down
every single hair transplant looks bad
Matthew McConaugheys transplant made him go from looking like a deranged sexual predator to becoming rated among the sexiest men on the planet. The frick are you on about?
looking at the 1999 pic i can see why him and woody think they're related
He looked badass for a brief spell before his hair magically came back after he rubbed something on his head and shook hands with a shaman (his actual cover story)
They have no choice but to lie for PR reasons, no matter how obvious it is. Even the ones who get bogged into oblivion lie and say that the reason they now look like a deep sea creature was because they had to get a necessary medical procedure as opposed to cosmetic surgery or 5000 litres of botox
>2006
jeeez how old is this prehistoric jpeg lmaoooo
holy shit, i totally forgot about that balding mcconaughey
And then you have to spend money every month taking bollock shrinker meds. I think i'll just recede thank you
I know but I still don't want to feel like I'm /fraud/ing, and more importantly I don't want to take fin.
I'm sure I'll probably bite the norwood bullet sonner or later, but I'll experiment with the cueball aesthetic first. I'm ugly as is, with and without hair, and women for some reason have been drawn to me for as long as I remember.
must have that jeremy allen white thing going on
He mogs me on account of having pretty good hair. Whatever it is, I'm not complaining. I've seen some very handsome people on social media complain in terms of not getting attention. I think a lot of it boils down to psychology.
>all expenses paid
So what's the catch? They yoink your gallbladder? Keep hair for shadow homie experiments?
there is no catch
it works
you just need money homosexual which is a wild concept for you ugly neets I get it
You cheap out and they frick it up. You might have to do it again or have weird bald spots in a decade. But, for most guys, their ability to date decent women is over by 35 anyway - who cares if you have a fricked up hairline in your 50s.
>But, for most guys, their ability to date decent women is over by 35 anyway
>tfw get more top tier zoomettes than when I was mid 20s
feels great bros
I've had a similar experience although I'm married nowadays. I don't think I became a whole lot better looking, but I wised up.
Old me would stress out about the tiniest little thing.
hell yeah chadbro
stay blessed
The catch is that if you dont do proper research on which clinics are good beforehand, then you will spend the rest of your life wishing you never got it done
I went to a hair doctor in Chicago last summer for a consultation and they quoted me $7500 to round out my temple areas
Current
Proposed FUE
why you're still a baby faced homosexual
t. totally not a really bitter baldie
your head shape is bizarre and offputting you have soft genes at best
that really hit a nerve, huh? i'm not even the baldie who posted his head
of course, you look like shit why would I not plainly state that
why are you all such emotional spazzes over correct statements and always wrong about your interpretations, its wild
hahahaha what dude you have nothing to work with to begin with
ok so you add that extra hair it still looks fricking awful wtf are you blind or stupid??
Nah I’m old and turning 33 this year
>33
>looks 53
disgusting wtf delete that
>33
>old
bro you just look like shit I know 60 y/o who look better WTF
KWAB
thanks for the confidence boost anon
don't take free advices anonymous losers; just go outside, pay the toll to a hairdresser/barber to have professional haircut lmaoo
will that erase his criminal rapist physiognomy?
you people are so fricking clueless it's absurd
Hair isn't terrible but it looks dry and the cut sucks. Get some good conditioner
Your skin looks fricked around the nose and neck, use a better razor/sensitive shaving cream and maybe fix your diet, quit drinking if you do
it'll look a bit thicker than that and that will look moronic if they don't add any side head hair too. but yeah, it's not SUPER crazy boxing you in looking like some ps2 character, but you will look healthier.
You'd be paying about 30% of what the top clinics in the US charge, so the result would likely be mediocre. Or even a bad result if you're doing it at a regular cosmetic clinic as opposed to a clinic that specializes in only hair transplants
Please cinsider getting prp therapy. I got it and am seeing new growth i thiught i would never get. I was an early norwood 4, and im starting to peel back to a norwood 3. And i think it will keep creepong if i keep going. I cannot recommend this procedure wnough
dont do it on turkey my dad did and his head looked like some vicious infection for like 2 months
sure now he has hair but unless you plan on going on hibernation for 2 months and not go out of your house you should just pay the extra
>his head looked like some vicious infection for like 2 months
doesnt matter where you go, this is always going to happen
its a transplant surgery, over and over and over again all over your skull which didnt have great bloodflow to begin with
the trauma will take awhile to heal
i'd rather be bald than let a roach touch me
I'd love to do this but
>can't afford it yet
>even if I could, it's a bad time to be flying right now
>not to mention the tension in the middle east, wouldn't want to be near that shit right now
You can get it done in Austin TX for 3-8k depending on how much is needed.
>Garry Linkov has entered the chat
Oh yeah, it's super easy.
I guess all those baldies are just lazy?
Do u have a spare pair of boot straps?
people who are too far gone don't benefit from a transplant because quite literally, all they're doing is reorganizing the existing hair on your head. if you're full patrick stewart it does nothing for you. if you're norwood 1 or 2, you get it done and hop on fin, you're set for like 10-15 years and by that time you'll have slayed as much puss as you were ever going to.
Had a HS in April. One of the best decisions I've ever made. Cost me 4800 to get it done in The Netherlands. Family and friends are constantly shocked how much hair I got now. You're making a good choice, Anon.
FUE or FUT? I'm considering getting one here in Canada. Overall it's cheaper than travelling and staying in turkey. I only need my temples filled in a bit and the frontline bolstered so it's a maximum 1500 graft procedure.
FUE. Had 4100 grafts done. I was pretty much fully relying on Toppik before it. I'm on Finasteride 1mg a day and minoxidil too. Lmk if you have any other questions. Good luck man.
How long for the results? I've seen some have the hairs shed out then return to normal in like 4-5 months, but most say it take a year for the transplant to be growing in properly.
That's not true actually. For first time procedures most doctors recc the FUT because:
>30% more of the transplanted hairs take longterm than FUE which has a higher rate of damaging follicles on extraction
>it leaves possibility for FUE touch up procedures in the future
The scare meme is from procedures in the 90's. Modern procedures are not any more noticeable than the speckled FUE scars.
Let me tell you what my timeline looked like.
1 week after HS: swelling is gone, few scabs on scalp left.
2 week after HS: no more scabs on scalp, baby hairs are appearing, you like like you have a buzzcut.
1 month after HS: most babyhairs have fallen out right now.
2 months after HS: you grow very little amount of hair on transplanted area
3-4 months after HS: hair starts to grow longer, but it's far from a full head of hair
5 months: huge increase in hair
6 months: pretty much full head of hair, with just the crown looking a little thin
8 months: full head of hair, nobody would ever be able to tell you had work done
This is how it went for me, people may have different experiences. Overall I'm real happy I did it. Just make sure you go to a good clinic.
FUT is basically obsolete, no one does FUT anymore. you'd look moronic with a giant scar on the back of your head making the hair move pointless.
If you reminded him that he's Italian, would it break him?
they moved to a rural area and no longer had water from scranton pa
i dont understand your inference here
I guess the combo of the fake name and hair transplant make it seem he wants to appear less "ethnic" like it's 1940
northern europeans are more commonly bald though
Nah, spain is actually leading, balkans and greece have high balding numbers too
every american on television has to be slightly handsome, and the US office is an idealised environs for normgroids
>every american on television has to be slightly handsome
kek
comedy shows are different
the office definitely falls under "comedy"
George has a sort of rough, schluppy appeal to a lot of women. Still handsome, just in an unorthodox fashion.
really? hell yeah
I look better than George and here I am receiving no signs of interest from any woman. frick my life
Remember when Jason Alexander wore a wig?
He said he is on propecia like 5x throughout the show
He famously got plugs after season 1. In season 1 they intentionally combed his hair like that to show off the thinning hair, to make Michael slightly creepy and more like Gervais' version of the character.
>thinning hair makes you look like a sinister creep
Wrong
Baldy cope
>t. hairlet
I'm an ugly, baldy and it has killed me socially.
There's no need to deny what everyone else already believes. R u gay?
He never got hairplugs, they just styled his hair like that
Probably stopped drinking.
me on the left
Season 1 Micheal is supposed to look like a slimy scumbag, he softened
The hair is just fin and minox, possibly transplant restoration. His eyes is the big thing that makes him look so much younger. Those bags under the eyes are a killer. Is this just make up?
It’s all about mental health. If you feel like shit all the time you will look like shit
ever heard of transplants?
Money
Make up.
He did The 40-Year-Old Virgin between S1 and S2. His hair is fine in the movie.
He was very obviously thinning out on one side in particular in Little Miss Sunshine too
I did not remember the teenager from that looking like Trudy Wiegel
That's Paul Dano, not "the teenager", you ignorant frick. Show some respect
Literally me
he used toppik hair shakings in the 40 year old virgin
Jon Cryer said he was bald from almost day one of Two and a Half Men and they stuck this stuff on him.
Did he get a nose job? Why? He didn't have the massive hook nose or smushed flat nose that most plastic surgery enjoyers have.
No that looks like natural drooping on the nose with age. Look at the way the tips of his ears also came down
they intentionally made his hair appear thinner in season one, he was supposed to look like a sleazy jerk and they dressed him to look that way.
in season 9 he is supposed to look a bit older and more lovable, changes that happened gradually over the course of the series but were played up in his cameo for obvious reasons.
any other changes are obviously from steve carrell becoming more fit.
tl:dr he never had bad hair to begin with, you're just dumb.
>any other changes are obviously from steve carrell becoming more fit.
kek delusional moron
/thread
Except as pictures have shown he was visibly balding in other projects. But this has very much gone off track
>they intentionally made his hair appear thinner in season one, he was supposed to look like a sleazy jerk and they dressed him to look that way.
>
>in season 9 he is supposed to look a bit older and more lovable
Isn't that funny
If you're balding then you're sleazy. If you have a full head of hair then you're lovable.
kek
He glew up. Take notes chuddies.
I remember they always made fun of Michael's height on the show. I thought the guy was 5'6 or something, but he's 5'9, why did the writers do that to me, bros?
Because it’s the truth, John Krasinski is supposed to be the chad of the show and he’s 6’3 which is what most women ideally want.
americans are superficial wackos who hate nature and seek to cheat death because they know god hates them. You look at everthing America has done in the last 50 years and you can tell they have lost any sense of masculinity within themselves for the sake of money and looking the other way while satanic criminals literally burn the world down around them.
nothing more pathetic and beta than to improve yourself through artificial means
baldie cope
So I guess you don't brush your teeth then?
a hair transplant is basically the same thing as restoring teeth you lost. you don't become someone you're not. you're just going back to the way you used to and were supposed to look. balding is a disease and i'll fight it
t. man who shaves his head 3 times per week so people can't see his fricked up hairline
Ah yes, the obligatory "improvement is le bad" blackpill escapee from reddit.
but you have to understand, putting more hair on your head is not embracing who you really are. but the same thing does not apply when i shave my hair to hide my hairline
Shaving your head doesn’t hide your hairline though, so it’s not the same as getting a hair transplant, which is basically the male version of getting fake breasts and lip fillers because you don’t feel pretty
>fake breasts
Turns you into someone you're not
>lip fillers
Turns you into someone you're not
>hair transplant
Keeps you the way you are instead of admitting defeat to some dumbass genetic disease that has zero evolutionary benefit whatsoever
>genetic disease that has zero evolutionary benefit whatsoever
it signals women you're past your expiration date
I heard it may have been sexually selected for looking interesting. I guess that's plausible if you imagine how hairy people once were. I wouldn't be surprised if it was part of the eusocial breeding strategy of humans, just like menopausal women: men with bald fathers or grandfathers had fewer men to compete with for mates, their child had more caregivers, thus the children thrived.
An awful lot of guys seem to expire in their early 20s
>Keeps you the way you are
Keeps you the way you were*
It’s not keeping you the way you are though, by definition it’s at the very least trying to get you back to what you used to be. If it makes you feel better about yourself fair enough, personal choice, but it’s living a lie and born of insecurity. I’ll never be dying my greying beard for instance to try and pretend I’m still 21.
>It’s not keeping you the way you are though, by definition it’s at the very least trying to get you back to what you used to be
What's wrong with that? Are you suggesting if people put on weight they shouldn't try and lose it?
They’re not the same thing at all. Like I said, if they feel better, it’s their choice, good luck to them. But it’s living a lie and no different to an ugly chick using cosmetic sorcery to try and look good on a night out.
>They’re not the same thing at all.
Right, one is completely on the person and the other is completely out of their control but doesn't need to be.
One persons hair remains the same as it had been for the 20 previous years.
The other person looks nothing like who they are.
They're not the same thing at all. Holy shit, you're a coping baldie
You are very insecure about this for some reason.
>But it’s living a lie
Do you say the same about people who go to the gym to transform their bodies?
>it's just a lie bro you were originally skinnyfat, you're just insecure!
Literally just said they’re not the same thing at all. Sucks if you’re not comfortable with yourself, but let’s not be silly.
bro you literally sound insecure as frick
why on earth would you not maximize your looks
you sound like poor person coping
And out of curiosity, how do you feel about women who drastically alter their appearances with makeup, fillers, weaves, etc? Ever woken up next to a minger who looked very different the night before, or had a date show up looking nothing like her pictures? Just curious, because you’re basically one of them. But yeah, I’m the insecure one. Sure.
adding hair back to where it left is nothing like what you're sperging over
we get it, you're ugly and think its cool to not try
girls with fake breasts are kino as frick too
not that you'll ever experience it
>girls with fake breasts are kino as frick too
Depends anon, sometimes it looks like shit. I'm not the guy you're replying to, but basically, you have to know the limits if you're going to do plastic surgery.
And if someone isn't good naturally, a few face lifts and a fake ass won't do much to change that.
And look at what the pretty girl from The Boys did to herself. Looks like Roger the alien now
I agree
there's nothing missing bud, I'm charming, wealthy and astonishingly attractive
>inb4 nuh uh no one like that comes here ever only uggos like me do
You just choose not to utilise the charm when you’re slumming it online?
I'm not wasting it an goblins like you plus it's fun to put you in your place like you deserve
Yeah, great job. You’ll always be insecure about who you are. Don’t forget it. Nobody else will
>You’ll always be insecure about who you are.
damn you caught me in 4k guess I'll never be handsome anymore because you said so damn
I really hope you’re a teenager. If you’re an adult spazzing out like this because somebody else is comfortable in themselves, no amount of surgical help will fix what’s really missing from you. Good luck.
>because somebody else is comfortable in themselves
If you were comfortable in yourself you wouldn't be shaving your head twice a week
NTA but you can be comfy with a bald look and not a monk look, despite neither being the state of your hair as a kid.
The point I'm making is that this idiot is complaining about transplantflags not "showing who they really look like". While he himself does the exact same thing by shaving. If he was actually comfortable with himself he'd just let his hair grow out. But he's in denial and doesn't understanding that shaving is just coping just like the transplantgays are doing
I don’t even shave my head actually, you’re just falling back on assumptions you’ve made because you’re insecure. Let it go and try to accept yourself
confirmed uggo who wants everybody else to be ugly too.
remember not to shower either. it's important for people to smell your natural smells and not artificial soap
bro not trying is soooo cool
imagine being so fake you comb your hair like a woman and wash your clothes like a homosexual ughhhh what a try hard I bet you only frick for 10 minutes too not the 3 hour frick sesh champ like me does heh
Replying to yourself works better if you try to sound like a different person
Literally said repeatedly if surgery makes people feel better it’s their choice, but cool, you seem normal, confident, and generally well balanced, as well as no doubt incredibly conventionally attractive, physically fit and successful. Cough.
>but cool, you seem normal, confident, and generally well balanced, as well as no doubt incredibly conventionally attractive, physically fit and successful.
literally yes
you're projecting and it's repulsive frick off back to making your DIT cart threads homosexual
I actually don’t know what that means, I’m assuming you spend more time online than me
You're making moronic comparisons and people are calling you out for it. There are "degrees of bad" when it comes to plastic surgery, and "going back to the way I used to look" is the least degree of bad and something most people actually do at some point in their life, usually related to their teeth looking bad. "Becoming someone my mom wouldn't recognize" is on the opposite end of the spectrum and is obviously something 99% of people would never ever consider. I suspect you have autism for not understanding something this simple
You are weirdly worked up because someone said “if it makes you feel better fine, but it’s not for me”
Based fellow fitizen.
Dumbest shit I've ever read. Guarantee this dude stinks like BO constantly and only thinks he smells like nothing because he got used to the smell.
>be me virgin in college
>read all kinds of stuff on Cinemaphile about getting women (~2012, very different to what gets memed today)
>one dude on Cinemaphile says women like male pheromones
>advises to save ball sweat in a ziploc after every workout and dab it on like aftershave before going out
>save up 1 weeks worth of ball sweat by collecting with a paper towel and replacing into ziploc
>finally test out the theory
>show up to class, sit in regular seat
>slowly a radius of empty seats form around me
The best dating "advice" is practice to the point where you naturally start to get a "feel" for what to do. Cinemaphile is terminally blackpilled and would drive Brad Pitt to suicide.
I literally knew someone who used to spend most of his time here and was convinced he would never be seen as human by anyone, until one girl basically forced herself into becoming his gf. He suddenly became a normie shortly thereafter and his whole demeanor changed.
Cinemaphile isn't blackpilled enough on certain topics.
Being terminally blackpilled just results in a poorer quality of wife, which wouldn't be an issue if life itself wasn't so short or if so many of the things people cared about actually mattered.
It's not good to be overly optimistic but being perpetually pessimistic can be even more detrimental. It's best to just be a realist and play with the cards you've been dealt to the best of your ability.
>wife
Probably didn't slip in there by chance since I'm married, but yes, life too.
Cinemaphile isn't blackpilled enough about social circles, timing, and dating prospects. If you haven't locked down someone who's fiance material by senior year of college, the quality of women decreases dramatically.
There isn't really a rule to these things, anon. People in college are pretty dumb and locking down someone when you could've found someone better is sub-optimal.
But being hellbent that you're like, 22, and it's already "over" for you because you were a nerd in High School is dangerously naive.
A lot of anons also tend to cut themselves short.
I say actually try to become what you want to be, as well as achieve, and then call it quits.
>People in college are pretty dumb and locking down someone when you could've found someone better is sub-optimal.
You're not realistically in as good of a position to meet smart women from good families that look after themselves in their 20s, without a lot of relationship mileage and baggage as you are in college.
If I could go back and slap 18-19yo me for caring more about my GPA than trying to socialize and meet women, because it only gets harder, I would.
I've met four women from Cinemaphile over the course of 18 years. One of them is my fiancee. They've all been normal people.
I’ve only ran into guys who I later found out were Cinemaphileners, but they were all normal, although on the nerdy side. People who say that all Cinemaphileners are [insert negative thing] are just losers who are projecting
This place is poisonous to people without life experience. A mixture of bitterness and disinformation has a lot of young men believing they're hopeless. Argue with these ignorant incels and they only double down.
you're supposed to mix the ball sweat with ass sweat and dab it on your face to get the full effects
classic (C L A S S I C)
i miss old 4ch
I loved Cinemaphile, almost as magical as /k/ommandos back in the day.
Womens value is in their appearance, they have always been concerned with looking good for men.
Men have only started commonly doing this gay shit for like 15 years. Even in the 00s balding men who tried to cope with hair pieces or weird fake hair were the butt of jokes. Meanwhile, masculine bald men are common throughout all of history.
You don't need to compare the things you do to what women do because you are not one. Men and women are different.
Transplants and shaving are both cowardice. The only men who get to legitimately talk shit are those who grow their hair out no matter how terrible their hairline is. Those are the guys who accept themselves for who they are. Not the transplant guys. Not the cowardly shavers
Hair is basically like teeth. If I lose a teeth, yeah, I'm going to get a fake one so I dont look like a crazy hillbilly. Calling it insecurity is fine. I just don't want to look like fricking shit, that's all
>Hair is basically like teeth.
and a cure for fixing both has been five years away for the last 50 years
If you lose your teeth in an accident or something, I get it. I watched a friend smash his teeth out, man needs to be able to chew food. It’s personal choice, but it is vanity rather than necessity. Like I said, if it makes people feel better about themselves, it’s their choice
You can chew just fine while missing 1 tooth in front, but most people would still get it fixed. Going back to the way they were supposed to look. Insecurity, vanity, you call it whatever you want
In the case of hair though it’s clearly not how they were supposed to look, as clearly they were supposed to go bald, it’s trying to look how they want to look, in most likelihood wanting to look more like they did when they were younger. It’s fine, but no sense lying to ourselves about it. Travolta for instance looked ridiculous for years trying to hide it, now he finally looks age appropriate and dignified rather than like an ageing drag queen.
>they were supposed to go bald
What a fricking stupid thing to say. Only like 30% of men bald. There's nothing good about accepting defeat just because you hit the shit-genetics lottery.
If I have a genetic illness that makes my ears grow twice the size they are now, you better fricking bet I'm getting surgery to go back to the way I used to look
Something like seventy percent of men lose their hair with age actually
80% of men have some degree of hair loss by 35.
>not how they were supposed to look
you're not supposed to be telling me your dumbass opinion right now, yet you are
No matter how much money you spend on transplants and meds that you’re terrified to miss you’ll always know in your heart you’re a bald guy and you’ll fear that others know it too and they will
>but it’s living a lie and born of insecurity. I’ll never be dying my greying beard for instance to try and pretend I’m still 21.
because you're an ugly homosexual
nothing wrong with hot bros maintaining, you pedentic worm
You seem really secure in yourself and must be drowning in pussy kek
I literally am and it's because of my looks
which are genuinely the only thing that matters in real life you spergy twerp
Yes, that’s why you’re arguing about men’s appearances on Cinemaphile on a Friday
yes and?
where should I be at a high-powered board room meeting?
go back to gaddonposting you offputting moron
From your previous comments you’d think you’d be getting laid. You know, because you’re so hot.
Careful not to summon that guy. Don’t really get her appeal. Pretty but nothing special as an actress.
getting laid takes 15 minutes homosexual
>OMG DUDE WHY AREN'T YOU FRICKING 24/7
because I have beer to drink after my workout and I get fricked out and sick of girls jfc are you actually a frickless dweeb?
> getting laid takes 15 minutes homosexual
Wow, those ladies are really lucky kek
grow up you frickless moron
supporting your fellow bros is kino
you're being an ugly coping homosexual
I support them being confident in themselves. Like I said, people are free to do what makes them feel better. Sorry you can’t like yourself as you are. Have fun with the boys you think are good looking kek
>genetics determine tit size
>Denying genetics turns you into someone you're not
>Genetics determine hair thickness
>Denying genetics turns me into who I really am
Too bad you can't get a brain transplant you fricking moron, kek
>get cancer
>deny chemo and all treatment because my genetics have decided that it’s my turn to die
>Pointing out that it's hypocritical to claim one of vain medical procedure is wholly different than another vain medical procedure
>This means you can't get CHEMO
based moron replyer
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All you morons talking about nature need a brain transplant. There are genes, that compel you to have hair. Then there are other, completely separate genes that frick up the plans of the first genes. Nature is not a coherent singular force, it's in a constant war with itself. I'm joining the war on the side that keeps my hairline from fricking up. Feel free to die from a flu because it's what nature intended
its called bone broth. its great for the skin and hair
Hair transplants are common as frick in hollywood. When you win an Oscar, you even get a fricking gift card to a hair transplant clinic.
Most athletes on the other hand have to wait to get a transplant until after they retire, because reducing their DHT with finasteride would mess with their athletic performance. First thing Floyd Mayweather did when he retired? Hair transplant. First thing Conor McGregor did after he semi-retired? Hair transplant. Same with football players, soccer players, tennis players, whatever
That's Hunter Biden on the left.
Arent you suppose to take Finn after a transplant or it just falls out again? Also does anyone here take fin? I got a script but i heard it nukes libido
The transplanted hairs never fall out, but the rest of the natural hair keeps falling out if you dont use fin, and then it'll eventually look like pic related.
If you use minox or nothing at all, the transplant only becomes a 5-10 year extension on having dense hair. So then it's about priorities. Some dudes only want to have hair in their 20s and 30s and dont care if they have to shave when they're 40. While others want hair for life
Forgot pic.
And yes, Brendan got a transplant and then stopped taking fin at some point
My man Brendan wore like two buckets of fibers and concealers for the Oscars. But I suppose this isn't any different than women wearing makeup.
Doesn't Fin make your dick not work? Or are you referring to topical?
>Doesn't Fin make your dick not work?
Only in about 2% of people. Could be higher as that's the recorded amount from clinical trials.
t. on fin and dick works fine
Looks legitimately horrifying and then you have to take the pills or it all falls out anyway.
Elaborate. What do the pills do? Does the implanted hair grow or is it synthetic?
They just move your hair from the back/sides to the top of your head. The pills just make sure you stop balding so the rest of your natural hair doesnt fall out
>you have to take the pills or it all falls out anyway
The transplanted hair doesn't fall out. That's the point of relocating it from places where you never go bald.
You take the pills to slow down the process of non-transplanted hair from falling out.
wtf?
there's photos of the back and side of his head where you can see the scars from the donor hair
Elon got his first transplant done way back when FUT was the standard method and they fricking sliced a big strip of meat from the back of your head. That was like 20 years ago and the extraction methods have come lightyears. Now there' barely scars if any at all
yeah that's what Rogan talks about and why he didn't like his
when I was a kid I thought we would be cloning organs and regrowing limbs by the time I reach 30. yet here we are, unable to even deal with extremely common shit like hair loss, diabetes, tinnitus, degrading eyesight
modern medicine is a fricking disappointment
wtf?
This one always weirded me out. His hair looked perfectly fine and dense back then and even had lots of white hairs, which never fall out so they're a sign that you won't be losing any more hair. And yet he got a transplant just to make it autistically symmetrical?
the widows peak made him look way older than he was. actors generally try to stay young-looking for as long as they can because there are more available roles
pfft he looked better as detective stablers dad
wtf?
being bald and having a babyface sucks so much ;___; even beards can't save you
wtf??
little timmy just found out that hair transpants exist, lol
wtf?
Ungrateful ape
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looks more distinguished with beard and hairloss. Those hairplugs fricked his brain up
>Those hairplugs fricked his brain up
right it wasn't the years of benzo abuse and the chemicaly induced russian coma he was in for a fricking year
Daddy.
what the frick?
Imagine paying to have a receding hairline. Even if it's better than your actual hair. If I'm going to pay I want a NW0 young Brad Pitt tier hairline. Otherwise, what's the fricking point?
these malding threads always make me feel better about myself, thanks OP
When you grow out of childhood, you’ll come to realize that eight years isn’t a very long time in the grand scheme.
does dutasteride noticeably word better than fin? been taking fin for years and it works okay.
wtf?
left has character and looks masculine, right is just generic assembly line shit
>I wish they'd just put Playdoh in your mouth and grind it right through your stupid head
wtf
Very obvious transplant based on the density of the hairline hairs. Anyone with an eye for this shit will spot it.
But hey, they did a good job.
What I don't understand is how does it work? does it fall again? does it regrow? Do they need more hair transplants or they just treat it by patches of hair as time passes?
Depends on the person. If they use finasteride then 1 transplant is enough because the finasteride keeps the rest of their hair from falling out. If they dont use finasteride then they need to get another transplant after a few years to make up for the hair they lost
Be warned finasterid doesnt work wonders for everyone, taking it for years and my process never really stopped completely, just less and slower. Though this anon is right.
>develop slight widow peak by 22
>it stops
>35 now
>harline has possibly crept up a centimeter
>still full head of hair
feels good man
the secret? diet and exercise. kek
I'm norwood 4 with a bad head shape for full bald but I'd rather cope than get a transplant. Cosmetic surgery is unnatural and I'm not going to buy into it just to be "competitive" for some narcissistic reason. Maybe that means I get less pussy or look bad. Frick it
If someone gets a procedure of any kind, they should do it for themselves, not others, for their own self-confidence.
Chasing the interest of others is basically a form of cucking yourself. Most people for example would become a different person if their parents died tomorrow, but they act in a certain way to appease them. It's sad but true.
>If someone gets a procedure of any kind, they should do it for themselves, not others, for their own self-confidence.
This is literally women's cope line about how they push out their breasts, squeeze their ass into tights and spend 2h on hair and makeup "just for themselves".
Looks are about attracting the opposite sex, always have been.
why are you so obsessed with other men not having hair?
Genetically yes, but the thing is, you can feel unattractive regardless of whether you attract others or not.
A lot of people in relationships get plastic surgery despite already being attractive to another person.
Similarly, an ugly person might get a procedure and still not attract anyone, just for their own sake.
My point is, if you find yourself ugly to the point where it torments you mentally, then do whatever you can to change it. But if you're solely doing it to get 5 more instagram likes and not changing anything else, I don't think it's worth it.
>you can feel unattractive
The concept of attraction requires two parties. If you "feel unattractive" then you care how you're perceived by another party.
I think it's a case of you being unsatisfied with your own natty limit and wanting to improve it. Again, you can be accepted by everyone in the world and still be insecure.
People have it all and still kill themselves. Getting bogged in comparison isn't that drastic.
>the thing is, you can feel unattractive regardless of whether you attract others or not.
> if you find yourself ugly to the point where it torments you mentally, then do whatever you can to change it.
I agree. However, this is still fundamentally based on being attractive to others. The whole point is to gain confidence by feeling that you are attractive to others, so it's not "for myself".
At least this can be said here. You cannot win this argument with a woman, she will never admit that she puts in serious effort to make sure men lust after her.
>However, this is still fundamentally based on being attractive to others
But a lot of the times these people already are. Obviously many people do it for others, but those who can't be content with their appearance no matter how much approval they get have a deeper issue. And in that regard, I think it's better for someone to go ahead with surgery instead of say, kill themselves.
>so it's not "for myself".
That's also a good point, but therein lies another question of whether we really change, or just become more like ourselves.
In an RPG, you fashion your character to look the way you want them to look, regardless of what someone else would think. So I akin this level of bogging more to that, than the appeal of others. Not all bogs come from the same place.
In a different age, I can see myself becoming bogged t b h. Nowadays I don't see the purpose of this effort bearing in mind the results. I don't want to go under the knife for like 2 dudes to tell me "great job bro" and getting my dick wet with a mildly more attractive woman than my current gf.
>Obviously many people do it for others, but those who can't be content with their appearance no matter how much approval they get have a deeper issue.
We might just disagree here, but I have a very hard time believing anyone would bog themselves if they were the only person alive on Earth. And I believe that if that's true, then bogging is done to improve other people's view of you, and improved self image or self confidence is downstream of that.
>anyone would bog themselves if they were the only person alive on Ear
I can agree with that, but I also think they'd still feel insecure if they're that kind of person who already is.
Not everything is built around the approval of others. For example I find the physical restraints of the human body underwhelming. Not on an aesthetic level but in the sense that I would prefer a less limiting physiology for humans, for them to be able to pick up buildings, run faster than a car, and so on. I'm genuinely irked that I'm unable to do this. But I'd be irked if I was the last person on Earth too.
>This is literally women's cope line
hit the nail on the head
>they should do it for themselves, not others, for their own self-confidence
But that's not why anyone gets it. If you're getting a cosmetic surgery, purely cosmetic with no medical benefit, you're doing it because you care how you're perceived by others. If everyone except you dropped off the face of the Earth, what would be the purpose of getting a hair transplant or a nosejob?
If that were the case, objectively attractive people wouldn't be bogging themselves so often. You CAN be accepted by others and still not accept yourself.
Look at shit like anorexia. This is mental. It often goes beyond just other people's acceptance.
Low self-image needs two parties, the self and the other who sees you. If you have poor self-image the bogging is excessive, but it's still inherently narcissistic
>but it's still inherently narcissistic
good.
>1, 2, 3, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8
> 3, 3
I believe it means like an alternative version of 3.
I remember freaking out in my early 20s because my hair was turning into 2, but now i'm almost 30 and my hair is still at 2
kek same here. I'm 34 now and still 2.
I was scared as FRICK thinking my life was over.
same I'm 29. Been a Norwood 2 since I was 20. I was fully convinced that I would be Joe Rogan tier by 25 but I was too much of a b***h to ever risk taking Finasteride.
It’s funny to me how hysterical bros are about Finasteride. Negative sides occur in less than 2% of men. If anything it made me hornier by increasing my test and my hairline has been frozen in place for the past 6 years.
2% is no joke. That's a 1/50 gamble at killing your dick
2% is the same incidence as placebo btw.
>tfw 2.5 almost 3
I have a high forehead. dont' think I can hold on much longer into my 40s. I'm 35...
It happens very suddenly. I'm 38 and went from 2 to 4 in the space of like 18 months. Decided to get on finasteride to see if it makes a difference. 3 months in and I lost even more hair but apparently shedding is part of the process. If I can keep what I've got I guess I'll be content but would really like to go back to what I had.
finasteride regrew hairline that i had lost 5 years prior which i read almost never happened, so i was a great responder. but after a few months i got negative sides so chose to quit. being bald sucks but having a working wiener is much more important
did you lose your hair again? aren't there options to mitigate the dick loss?
yeah i lost it. and nope. DHT is the hormone that controls both those things so if you lean too far either way, you’re shit out of luck and have to choose your hair or your dick
DHT doesn't control boners. Dudes with no DHT can still get bones going.
The rare sexual sides from finasteride are most likely caused by raised estradiol levels from increased testosterone. The best stack involves a soft aromatase inhibitor like DIM and estrogen metabolizer like boron supplement. Should keep DHT low, test high, estradiol normal range. The above supplements won't obliterate your E levels like a full on medical grade AI would.
>The best stack involves a soft aromatase inhibitor like DIM and estrogen metabolizer like boron supplement. Should keep DHT low, test high, estradiol normal range
link supplements pls
DIM you can literally just search on Amazon although the best DIM was called Mega DIM and doesn't seem to be on Amazon anymore. Think the company went under. Don't know about the others yet. Boron supps you can get anywhere but DON'T overdo it as I think (this is just my experience) too much boron can also cause some hairloss. I noticed when I had 9mg of boron daily my hairloss progressed at the hairline despite the normal fin/min stack. Boron does balance out estrogen to test levels but like anything you shouldn't overdo it I guess.
I noticed I had sides from finasteride and started on the hormone balancing supps like these and within a week I was back to getting random boners, morning wood, etc. To me this is the solution for sides if you get them. Most dudes who get side effects start trying other shit thinking low test/DHT is the problem and try Tongkat, Ashwa, etc test boosters, not realizing that's just gonna make the estradiol problem worse as it's not addressing it.
Not really much point. That's a bunch of different things to have to source and supply.
if all that is solidly true, why isn't there a company that has bottled it together and sold it as a complete package? All the hair loss mail order stuff is pure fin
Probably because they'd need to go through FDA testing again as well as patenting it etc. Why bother when it supposedly impacts such a small percentage of the users?
How long did it take to regrow hair? My dick is fine thankfully.
I'm somewhere between a 1 and a 2. I just turned 30. This is fine right?
Hair plugs and weight loss. So what
Joe rogan tried to get hairplugs but they looked like shit kek
He looks better bald or with very short hair. Some people aren't built for Fabio hair and it can be a detriment.
Yeah never getting a surgery. I'm just going to use Fin until I'm 40 and married with kids. It works fine for me.
smart move. transplants is only for the guys who were too stubborn to jump on fin and then suddenly start panicking when they lose half their hair in the span of 6 months in their late 20s
It's the same shit ultimately. They're taking your own hair and moving it to the front.
It's just that with Fin you'd save more money. But if you're among those who get bad side effects, you're absolutely fricked.
That's why I don't plan on taking anything even if my hair goes to shit one day, unless the japanese develop that supposedly side-effect free miracle drug.
>unless the japanese develop that supposedly side-effect free miracle drug
The new thing is hair follicles grown from stem cells, so you dont need to extract from the back of your head and can get as many as you like so even superbald people can fill their whole head up. It has been in medical trials for a while because they need to observe how the follicles develop over several growth cycles, etc but it will probably hit the market within a couple of years. There's a long line of people who are waiting for it though and there will only be a few japanese clinics doing it in the beginning so it's going to be super fricking expensive the first few years
Stem-cells are generally the golden fleece of medicine for all manner of issues, they fix just about anything short of terminal disease. But big pharma and the gubmint also has a crazy choke hold on them.
I remember listening to Joe Rogan's podcast with Mel Gibson and how him and his dad had to go overseas to get proper stem cell treatment because in the US the laws are so fricked.
Why do all the hair transplant surgeons gravitate toward Turkey?
>hair transplants need lots of hair
>turks are very hairy
do the maths champ
it's just a cultural thing. turks really care about hair so there was a lot of research into it. and when it became an international destination a lot of money started flowing in so even more clinics started opening up to deal with the large flow of people
Wow, laser unibrow removal, and massive jaw implants. Perhaps even shaved down his chin. Sickening
People should not resort to plastic surgery (yes, that includes hair transplants) to hide their aging and shitty genetics. It's dishonest.
I have a full head of hair at the ripe age of 32, and it frustrates me to now end that liars, frauds and cheaters walk around pretending to be my equals. Frick all of you.
Get the plugs and stay on finasteride forever its worth it no one wants to be bald
>It's worth it
Wrong.
My body is tolerant of all meds, only 3 days on fin and my dick could not get hard at all.
I'm too ugly to get pussy, so furious masturbation is all I've got and I'm barely holding on. That's why nofao is moronic for ugly losers like me.
Yeah thats the bad side effect your labido is dead but at least you get to keep your hair
you gays are as fake as a troony
seems like a monkeys paw
i pray i never have to choose
>*solves baldness in your path*
The most stealthy transplant in Hollywood is Walton Goggins. He got a hair transplant around season 2/3 of The Shield to maintain his fricked up hairline because he was losing hair really fast and they couldn’t have 2 fully bald main characters on the show
>anon discovers one of the main things that ages a man is hairline
have any of you guys used topical minoxidil? Did it actually work?