This was "subversive" in 1979 because it wasn't the norm, at all. This kind of shit is NOT subversive in 2023 because when everything is subversive to some ancient "standard", NOTHING is "suvbersive".
Most subversive thing you could make nowadays would be a movie made like it's the 1950s.
it was never subversive. the meme that 'women werent allowed to do anything uwu' is a complete fiction created by cultural marxists in the 1960 and 70s as a way to justify so called women's liberation.
women have been working, leading, and 'saving the day' since the dawn of human history. There are numerous woman leaders in history, and at no point in time were women 'not allowed to work lmao'. It's just utter moronation to believe this. Just pull up some pulp book from the 1920s and see the numberous female heroes. Or sit back and watch some 1800 plays such as les miserables. Whats that? The play opens with women working in a factory? BUT I THOUGHT WOEMNES AWENRE ALLWOED 2 WORK WTF :~~*(
>story about the horrors of future space exploration being privatized by dystopian corporate overlords that consider humans disposable and put profit above everything else >omg yaas slay frick the patriarchy
all of them have their positions based on merit
what do you mean the only non-israelite in a company management position married a woman with the maiden name "silverstein"
I just can't picture it at all. You can't have a manly man type actor in the role or doesn't work, because one of the twists is the manly badass space captain dying early and leaving the clueless survivors to fend for themselves. So Ripley has to be some kind of pencilneck looking fuccboi to still play the same underdog role. I guess it could work, but it would be a completely different movie from that angle.
This isn't really true, you could just have the cast from Star Trek do the same shit and have Kirk (chad) die in the vents leaving Sulu and Chekov (pathetic beta males) to figure things out
>Ripley is portrayed as equal to male action heroes.
Wrong. That's Vasquez, and to say that Aliens is feminist because of that character would be like saying that Starship Troopers is feminist because of Dizzy.
Merit based hierarchies are not feminist
encounter with alien life in human history
If this was the first time literally any alien was found, they would have freaked out way more at the distress signal and the order to land and board the alien ship. They seem mostly ok with the whole thing until the facehug
Her first instinct was to quarantine Kane outside the ship for at least 24 hours, which was standard company procedure and the correct course of action. Once it was onboard and a clear serious hazard to the crew, then yeah destroy it.
They're on a planet and yeah, leave them in their suit. But there's nothing stopping the others from coming out and setting up a temporary shelter that they can stay in for a day.
It's been a while since I've seen it, but is this really the first time they encountered aliens in their universe? I remember a line in Aliens where the marines were talking about how it was another bug extermination job, made me think they had encountered aliens before (albeit never the xenomorphs, and Aliens was 50+ years later).
>first encounter with alien life in human history >her first instinct is to destroy it
I'm thinking no.
Think they had encountered non sentient life forms before, which is what the xenomorph would be considered anyways. So just another bug to exterminate.
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Think they had encountered non sentient life forms before, which is what the xenomorph would be considered anyways. So just another bug to exterminate.
No. They had not encountered any life. They were explicit about that in both films. And very incredulous at the lunatic woman who came up with some obviously fake alien story. Bug hunt was just a way of saying wild goose chase, and this has been known for decades.
Ripley works because the movie has an ambiguous protagonist til the end, and because each of the characters is plausible as working class people. I've known many working women like Ripley. The difference between Ripley and a "girlboss," (or any woke character archetype) is that Ripley is human.
That's why wokeshit is so lame, because the characters exist as walking agitprop, not as discrete persons with authentic pathos. A wokeshitter could write a white male, and it would still be as phony and lame, because that's all a wokeshitter is.
Conversely, it's why even ethnic or women characters from previous decades seem so much better than wokeshit now, and why seeing Black folk or some such on screen wasn't so odd back 20 years ago. It's because we all have brains that subconsciously pick up on the differences between the genuine and the fake, even in a literary way.
At first, it seems like Kane, Dallas, or Ripley could each be the leading role, for different reasons. Kane seems to take charge, almost more than Dallas. But Dallas is the captain and keeps things under control. Yet Ripley is a sort of voice of reason and never loses her head like the others.
The other characters are less plausible as leads, but ultimately, if you watch it blind, there's no real telling who will be the lone survivor.
Man, I would write about le heckin squichy chungus and le epic strong vegana haver in over the top greentext with a funny redditer gif, but in this day and age you get banned for this by the trannies, called janiators.
Certainly I get banned for this too
Dark Star is a movie from the writer of Alien. At times, it can be like a similar very low-budget comedy version of Alien.
Quentin Tarantino recommended this movie.
>The "Beachball with Claws" segment of the film was reworked by O'Bannon into the science fiction-horror film Alien (1979). After witnessing audiences failing to laugh at parts of Dark Star which were intended as humorous, O'Bannon commented, "If I can't make them laugh, then maybe I can make them scream."
Yeah I remember that movie not really being laugh out loud funny most of the time, but it's strangely comfy. I liked the ost, which was composed, played and sung by the director himself - John Carpenter, who went on to direct The Thing and other great movies. The spaceship was designed by Ron Cobb who also did concept art for Alien.
>nobody listened to the lonely cat lady
considering listening to the lunacy of that demographic is what has doomed society in the last few decades, it was the best decision
old-ass meme, but I'll allow it.
this time.
enjoy your free pass.
enjoy your gold fellow redditor
only the android who was intentionally sabotaging them was actively ignoring her
rest of them were fairly alright
it's a good movie but ripley is not the girlboss that zoomer femoids think she is
Alien was very famously written with no gender or race in mind for any of the characters
jones was meant to be black
This was "subversive" in 1979 because it wasn't the norm, at all. This kind of shit is NOT subversive in 2023 because when everything is subversive to some ancient "standard", NOTHING is "suvbersive".
Most subversive thing you could make nowadays would be a movie made like it's the 1950s.
it was never subversive. the meme that 'women werent allowed to do anything uwu' is a complete fiction created by cultural marxists in the 1960 and 70s as a way to justify so called women's liberation.
women have been working, leading, and 'saving the day' since the dawn of human history. There are numerous woman leaders in history, and at no point in time were women 'not allowed to work lmao'. It's just utter moronation to believe this. Just pull up some pulp book from the 1920s and see the numberous female heroes. Or sit back and watch some 1800 plays such as les miserables. Whats that? The play opens with women working in a factory? BUT I THOUGHT WOEMNES AWENRE ALLWOED 2 WORK WTF :~~*(
>story about the horrors of future space exploration being privatized by dystopian corporate overlords that consider humans disposable and put profit above everything else
>omg yaas slay frick the patriarchy
Why are you so antisemitic? It's just a coincidence Weyland-Utani is full of israelites. They're very successful people naturally.
all of them have their positions based on merit
what do you mean the only non-israelite in a company management position married a woman with the maiden name "silverstein"
>3 alien threads
just stop the viral marketing and drop the trailer already
Jonsey is required in all fan art
haha they all died in 3
haha good thing that was all a non-canon nightmare during hypersleep phew
Do zoomers consider her to be a dommy mommy?
Her part was originally written for a male character. casting a female because Sigourney is so entrancing, had no impact on the script.
I just can't picture it at all. You can't have a manly man type actor in the role or doesn't work, because one of the twists is the manly badass space captain dying early and leaving the clueless survivors to fend for themselves. So Ripley has to be some kind of pencilneck looking fuccboi to still play the same underdog role. I guess it could work, but it would be a completely different movie from that angle.
This isn't really true, you could just have the cast from Star Trek do the same shit and have Kirk (chad) die in the vents leaving Sulu and Chekov (pathetic beta males) to figure things out
Alien has always been a feminist movie gold standard.
There's nothing feminist in Alien. That's why it's good.
Ripley is portrayed as equal to male action heroes.
>Ripley is portrayed as equal to male action heroes.
Wrong. That's Vasquez, and to say that Aliens is feminist because of that character would be like saying that Starship Troopers is feminist because of Dizzy.
Merit based hierarchies are not feminist
It's been co-opted by internet feminists because everything they make is trash, so they need to pretend a good movie was made for them.
Isn't that more Aliens? In the first one, Ripley was nearly as clueless and helpless as the rest of them.
Feminists hate Aliens because what makes Ripley strong and resilient in that one is her maternal instinct.
Similar case with Sarah Connor in T2.
The smart ones in Alien were "Bonus Situation" and "Right"
>first encounter with alien life in human history
>her first instinct is to destroy it
I'm thinking no.
encounter with alien life in human history
If this was the first time literally any alien was found, they would have freaked out way more at the distress signal and the order to land and board the alien ship. They seem mostly ok with the whole thing until the facehug
Her first instinct was to quarantine Kane outside the ship for at least 24 hours, which was standard company procedure and the correct course of action. Once it was onboard and a clear serious hazard to the crew, then yeah destroy it.
the real question is how the frick do you quarintine someone in outerspace. just leave them outside in their space suit?
They're on a planet and yeah, leave them in their suit. But there's nothing stopping the others from coming out and setting up a temporary shelter that they can stay in for a day.
Well her first instinct clearly wasn't wrong.
It's been a while since I've seen it, but is this really the first time they encountered aliens in their universe? I remember a line in Aliens where the marines were talking about how it was another bug extermination job, made me think they had encountered aliens before (albeit never the xenomorphs, and Aliens was 50+ years later).
Think they had encountered non sentient life forms before, which is what the xenomorph would be considered anyways. So just another bug to exterminate.
No. They had not encountered any life. They were explicit about that in both films. And very incredulous at the lunatic woman who came up with some obviously fake alien story. Bug hunt was just a way of saying wild goose chase, and this has been known for decades.
Ripley works because the movie has an ambiguous protagonist til the end, and because each of the characters is plausible as working class people. I've known many working women like Ripley. The difference between Ripley and a "girlboss," (or any woke character archetype) is that Ripley is human.
That's why wokeshit is so lame, because the characters exist as walking agitprop, not as discrete persons with authentic pathos. A wokeshitter could write a white male, and it would still be as phony and lame, because that's all a wokeshitter is.
Conversely, it's why even ethnic or women characters from previous decades seem so much better than wokeshit now, and why seeing Black folk or some such on screen wasn't so odd back 20 years ago. It's because we all have brains that subconsciously pick up on the differences between the genuine and the fake, even in a literary way.
At first, it seems like Kane, Dallas, or Ripley could each be the leading role, for different reasons. Kane seems to take charge, almost more than Dallas. But Dallas is the captain and keeps things under control. Yet Ripley is a sort of voice of reason and never loses her head like the others.
The other characters are less plausible as leads, but ultimately, if you watch it blind, there's no real telling who will be the lone survivor.
leftists really are utterly incapable of memeing, aren't they
every single letterboxd user review reads just like that
Man, I would write about le heckin squichy chungus and le epic strong vegana haver in over the top greentext with a funny redditer gif, but in this day and age you get banned for this by the trannies, called janiators.
Certainly I get banned for this too
Every time I wake up my first emotion and thought is a blistering hatred of women.
Give an extra star for the bush
Dark Star is a movie from the writer of Alien. At times, it can be like a similar very low-budget comedy version of Alien.
Quentin Tarantino recommended this movie.
>The "Beachball with Claws" segment of the film was reworked by O'Bannon into the science fiction-horror film Alien (1979). After witnessing audiences failing to laugh at parts of Dark Star which were intended as humorous, O'Bannon commented, "If I can't make them laugh, then maybe I can make them scream."
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>maybe I can make them scream
Who screams at movies?
Yeah I remember that movie not really being laugh out loud funny most of the time, but it's strangely comfy. I liked the ost, which was composed, played and sung by the director himself - John Carpenter, who went on to direct The Thing and other great movies. The spaceship was designed by Ron Cobb who also did concept art for Alien.
To this day I will never understand why she stopped self destruct only to hastily rearm it later
Have a poster, Cinemaphile.
Jonesy mogs xenosissies
Jonesy is a useless Black person
Alien:
A woman fights adversity in space, then settles down alone with a cat.
>nobody listened to the lonely cat lady
considering listening to the lunacy of that demographic is what has doomed society in the last few decades, it was the best decision
>Alien is a movie where nobody talks about the bonus situation, can we talk about the bonus situation?
Word
wait till you hear some commie freaks tell you its about capitalism