>Disney makes yass queen girl boss female empowerment SW show >all female characters are devoid of personality or an actual story arc >resort to selling them based on sex appeal
True female empowerment
the problem goes way beyond just Star Wars, every entertainment company on the planet right now is in the shitter because they were out of control spending on streaming content when the entire streaming business model isn't sustainable. All of the major media conglomerates followed netflix off a cliff
In Disney canon red lightsabers are made by making Khyber crystals suffer and "bleed" by using the Dark Side. Those two being orange is meant to indicate they're somewhere in the middle.
Let's ignore the fact that even in the Clone Wars, their own canon show, a member of the Jedi Council had a red lightsaber.
While this show has a few good moments, how the frick do you manage to make pretty much every action scene completely devoid of tension? That is some skillful work but not in a good way.
Also a shame that the only promising story is probably dead because of the actor sharing that state of being.
I watched the whole series but I don't remember if Jabba's kid ever showed up again. Rebels was trash and I regret watching two seasons of it, but this was alright.
I don't think Stinky the Hutt ever showed up again, but I think one of the books implied the Rancor Keeper took him and they lived in the town Cobb Vanth lives in.
I have a faint glimmer of hope anon, but I'm not optimistic. Ahsoka underperformed and I really didn't see as much buzz for it compared to the Mandalorian or even Andor.
That being said, no Shin in Season 2 = no watch, simple as.
Filoni will likely get to make it, but with a smaller budget
If they're smart then they'll just leave Thrawn/New Republic to the movie(s). In S2 of Ahsoka they focus on characters stranded on Peridea. Instead of constantly jumping between the scenes they give all 4 of them some depth and mini-arcs, and finally reveal Baylan and Shin's backstories. Then they deal with whatever the hell is calling to Baylan.
Unfortunately, they're not smart and they'll never do it this way.
It was my first Star Wars book. I found it by chance in a bookstore in the imported books section here in Brazil. To this day, they haven't translated this book into Portuguese, I bought it a little before Disney started putting the Legends label on the books. It's still one of my favorite stories in all Star Wars media. Kino indeed
They aren't similar in any way whatsoever. God, some Star Wars gays are utterly moronic. It's like you randomly interjected into a completely irrelevant conversation >I'm trans, btw
Like, who asked? How is this redhead b***h relevant in any way whatsoever to the character of Shin Hati, other than being a female? Jesus Christ. What an absolutely inbred, low IQ fandom. Alec Guinness was right.
>Pulls up in a ridiculously long automobile >"I don't like it Dave. I don't like it all. She's a padawan, she should be a twelve year old who dresses like a space bawd" >"B-but George... We had a w-w-whole plan for... For a mm-m-mature Jedi! She was going to be my OC!" >Beneath a mirrored pair of sunglasses, a yellow glow emanates from George's eyes >"I MADE INDIANA FRICKING JONES, GIVE ME A THAI PROSTITUTE FROM THE MOON OR YOU'RE STUCK ON EWOK STORIES FOR THE REST OF YOUR MISERABLE LIFE" >Filoni leans his head through the car window for a powerful b***hslap before Lucas drives away
Maybe Doomwiener WAS right, I'd work with Kennedy after that...
i think you're confusing that with people figuring that she's the disney equivalent of mara jade who was first introduced in the eu thrawn trilogy iirc
Yeah, it's obvious she's the Mara Jade of this inferior version of Heir to the Empire, and Baylon is Joruus C'baoth (while the use of his force powers by Thrawn has been shifted to the Great Mothers).
There's a big problem, though. There's no way -NO WAY- KK's Lucasfilm is going allow Luke to be a Jedi Master with successful heterosexual relationships, so she will never be Luke's love interest. Never.
I saw a scene with with him fighting and he's using all these 90 degree angles and shit. That was a semi-interesting idea, but never watched it so not sure if it amounted to anything.
Is that from the EU or anything? Any of you SWgays know?
It only looks like it here. She looks like she surgery for cleft lip and her nostrils are totally different, IRL. The lip scar has been toned down for this art.
Yes. It's actually even better this way, because none of the characters act the way they used to in the shows where they originated, so you'll have no per-conceived notions about this and no expectations ruined. And the most crucial plot point of the series happens entirely off-screen anyway, so even those who had seen the shows are confused as frick. But why would you waste 6 hours of your life on this?
I don't know, sometimes I just want to appreciate for myself a show that a lot of people hate. I didn't do that with Rings of Power, but I want to with this one.
Like the first reply said, it’s probably better that way. But the acting, choreography and writing is so bad anyways it doesn’t really matter. I’d recommend just skipping any scenes with the female characters, about 90% of the show.
Absolutely not. Any one saying “yes” is already a fan who watched four seasons of another show. It makes very little sense on why you should give a solitary frick about any of these people. And doesn’t explain why Thrawn is such a big scary guy when he failed so hard in stopping and impeding the progress of the heroes. It’s pure fan service. It is unwatchable because of that.
I watched all the animated shows. And it still made very little sense and I didn't give a solitary frick about any of them, despite Ahsoka (animated) literally being one of my favorite Star Wars characters. This show is dogwater. Everything important in this show happens off-screen, and it's literally a teaser for the next live-action disney slop down the line.
killing hyperbolically negative ahsoka anti-shills
ripping hyperbolically negative ahsoka anti-shills's eyes from their sockets
grating hyperbolically negative ahsoka anti-shills skin with a cheese grater
popping hyperbolically negative ahsoka anti-shills testicles with a comedically large wooden mallet
stapling hyperbolically negative ahsoka anti-shills ears together while theyre still attached
slowly increasing the temperature of a vat of oil hyperbolically negative ahsoka anti-shills are in by a rate of one degree a day
I enjoyed the few seconds of Thrawn in the first episode he was in, but couldn’t get myself to watch the last two. The show is just so shitty. Stevenson is great but so underused it’s not even worth watching because I know he died and they would have wasted him anyways. Going to watch Rome for the first time soon so I’m glad he was in this to remind me to finally start it. What a bunch of wienersuckers these homosexuals at disney are.
Imagine being Rosario Dawson and not even providing the best depiction of the character Ahsoka in the show 'Ahsoka' in which you play the lead, Ahsoka.
Filoni fricked it up when it mattered the most. After a career leading up to this moment, he fumbled: the writing is atrocious, the acting is wooden, and the supposedly "lived-in universe" comes off as a clean plastic, LED-lit stage. The characterization? Somewhere between fanfic and utterly moronic. I think it's even worse than Book of Boba.
Take the writing for Sabine, for instance, the millenial female equivalent of the picrel meme. Half the season hinges on her rebuilding her relationship with Ahsoka: a relationship the audience knows nothing about, that got damaged because of an off-screen rift the audience knows nothing about, wo when the two of them cross their arms and enter a sulk competition, literally no one gives a frick.
But hey, she's a super-cool powerful female rebel artist Jedi Mandalorian engineer bounty hunter who needs no man, whose whole objective is to find a man but she can't show any emotion when she does because of Bechdel reasons. She sentences the whole Galaxy to war and death but is never made to face the consequences of actions because that would disempower her, so instead she's forgiven and rewarded with the power to bypass Force training and is given the "hero moment" of saving the beta male non-interest in the most visually moronic way possible. It's written worse than most fanfic.
And that's just one character's "development". The plot for the whole thing, the titular character, the "military genius" villain... everything is written on this level. Don't let the semi-interesting "dark jedi" characters fool you (Filoni fumbled their arc too), I'm telling you: this shit was abysmal.
>wearing the armor would justify the Shin wound as glancing >being weak in the force and minimally trained doesn't change her being a literal child soldier from birth and combat veteran-- make her overcompensate by fighting dirty, closing the distance and doing MMA shit to the body so it doesn't look like a curb stomp each time-- walla, they have things to learn from each other later scissoring >no flashbacks to contextualize anything to the non-cartoon watching audience >no reference to Sabinine promising Ezra they'd find him >no banter alluding to keeping promises when she jumps ship to bail Ahsoka out of the undead gangbang, or making up later over Ahsoka bailing out on her to chase the map/Baylan/Morgan >Sabine leaves Ezra's lightsaber WITH HIM ON THE SHIP like bad poetry and fights full Mando styling on the undead troopers as counterpoint to the "it's not about wielding a light saber"
There were any number of simple characterization devices available and this greasy italian yes man didn't make use of any of them. The only excuse for this shit on top of the amateur hour circus over at Disney is a short writing/development time and having Kennedy proactively breathing down your neck without Favreau. Shit's embarrassing.
her giving up the map willingly gave her some complexity as a character. If you can’t understand that in real life people aren’t 2D and have their own motivations beyond absolute good and absolute evil, that’s on you my guy.
The way Filoni refused the characters to address the grave moral consequences to that action ("it's complicated", "a story for another time", "you did the right thing, Sabine", etc.) is both hilarious and sad. Retroactively fricked that plot point so bad it's a perfect example of how deeply amateurish the writing on this series was.
The worst thing about Sabine in this show is that she undoes Ezra's sacrifice, and we don't even really know why. If she wants his schlong, she sure doesn't act like it when she finally finds him. But worse than all that, is the fact that Ahsoka needlessly involves her to begin with. She's mad Sabine didn't destroy the map, BUT SHE COULD HAVE DONE THAT HERSELF in the first 10 minutes of the show. But couldn't, because the show had 7.83 episodes to go.
Yeah. And it's even more moronic than that. Morgan Elsbeth's plan in the first ep is to use her droids' mega nuke to kill Ahsoka... with an explosion that would also destroy the map and with it the only way to find Thrawn.
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This shit doesn't stand the most basic level of scrutiny.
Because Google Maps doesn't use up to date satellite images, you can actually see the outdoor set of this temple in El Segundo, CA on there right now. Amazingly, it wasn't the volume, they really built it.
sabine is definitely the most cringe character in disney star wars so far, with the tone set in her total badass entrance - they were so desperate to force home the point how much of a bad ass she was but her action scenes were awful. Trying to imagine what the stormtroopers felt having to collapse to the floor while this moron dad shuffled around wafting a lightsaber behind her with no look deflections as she's shooting at things off camera. This show also seemed to mostly revolve around her. Hera could have competed with most cringe title if they gave her more stuff to do
Trying to have their sequel shit cake and eat George's original VII-IX treatments too, badly. And amateur live action director with dialogue en par with Dave & Dan in GOT, same hack level of pregnant pauses and emoting laundered as proper exposition.
>never heard of Dave Filoni before in my life >suddenly his name gets dropped non stop >figure he must've been involved in the OT to have this much of a legendary status >look him up >his first involvement in Star Wars was some animated horseshit
You frickers are falling for a psyop. Dave Filoni is quite literally a nobody.
Lucas liked Avatar The Last Airbender, so he personally chose Filoni to showrun his Star Wars cartoon. Later told Bryce Dallas Howard that Filoni is like a son to him.
>kid's cartoon
Star Wars is for kids. It's all PG, edging on PG-13 occasionally. >Completely irrelevant to the Star Wars canon.
Not according to Lucas. 6 movies and The Clone Wars were the only things that constituted Lucas canon.
?feature=shared >It's a kids cartoon.
Star Wars is for kids. And the features have so much CGI that they can be called half-cartoons.
Do you enjoy being moronic?
7 months ago
Anonymous
Star Wars is not for kids, you moron.
It has goofy moments, but so do actual horror movies.
And the cartoons are extremely for kids.
7 months ago
Anonymous
>Star Wars is not for kids, you moron.
It is. >It has goofy moments, but so do actual horror movies.
lol
lmao
Is that your argument? Wait, what exactly is your argument here? What makes Star Wars *not* for kids? >And the cartoons are extremely for kids.
Just as much for kids as the movies. Isn't any different in the slightest.
7 months ago
Anonymous
>What makes Star Wars *not* for kids?
Adult themes like incest and suicide, for starters.
>Just as much for kids as the movies.
The cartoon is literally a kiddie cartoon that aired during kiddie cartoon time.
7 months ago
Anonymous
>Adult themes like incest and suicide, for starters. >LE VIOLENCE!
So, like the cartoon? I also don't remember any of the movies featuring suicide and the incest was not intentional, because Leia was not intended to be Luke's sister in the first two films. >The cartoon is literally a kiddie cartoon that aired during kiddie cartoon time.
The cartoon is literally TV-PG-V, which is the equivalent of PG-13. It aired in the evenings and on AdultSwim.
At this rate, I am positive that you're a shitposting moron.
7 months ago
Anonymous
Anon, look at Anakin's facial expression when he sees her on the ground.
It's a kiddie cartoon.
And it has nothing to do with the canon.
The Disney shows aren't canon either, and even they don't follow the previous non-canon from the cartoons.
7 months ago
Anonymous
Concession accepted.
7 months ago
Anonymous
Why did Lucas got so fat?
7 months ago
Anonymous
He stopped doing cocaine, and became a fat hack. Spielberg stopped doing cocaine and just became a normal sized hack
7 months ago
Anonymous
when did Lucas stop?
I'm guessing he started around Empire?
7 months ago
Anonymous
>So, like the cartoon?
If you made films like Army of Darkness scene for scene in 3d animation, it would be considered a cartoon for kids too.
7 months ago
Anonymous
Not really. Army of Darkness has blood, gore and profanities. Any cartoon with those would be considered an adult cartoon. Star Wars films don't have any of those.
7 months ago
Anonymous
I saw them, and I was not a kid in 2008. He knew they wouldn't make their money back; there was zero possibility.
Concession accepted, you trolling, dumb Black person idiot.
[...] >Yes, he hired a writer for a kids cartoon
Dumb moron, Filoni didn't even write a single episode of the original Clone Wars run. Hahahahhaha, you don't even know the position he was hired for. How are you so moronic, you are too stupid to breathe.
There are countless interviews with Filoni where he says that specific stories and ideas in the series are from Lucas, and some of them he even said he disagreed with George, but did them anyway.
That Black person is trolling. Stop feeding him.
Just look at all this seethe lmao
Lucas hired showrunners and directors for kids cartoon (Filoni, Tartatovsky, ...), and let his daughter who was like 15 at the time write episodes.
And it was visually a very childish version of Star Wars.
It was a kids cartoon that only kids watched, and they CERTAINLY had no idea who the frick Filoni was. Nobody did, until you shills started astroturfing his name to promote the Ahsoka abomination.
7 months ago
Anonymous
hey, katie lucas wrote some good episodes like the nightsisters arc, mauls return and bounty
7 months ago
Anonymous
Black person, your concession has already been accepted. Tongue my anus.
7 months ago
Anonymous
>kid's cartoon
Star Wars is for kids. It's all PG, edging on PG-13 occasionally. >Completely irrelevant to the Star Wars canon.
Not according to Lucas. 6 movies and The Clone Wars were the only things that constituted Lucas canon.
Imagine thinking a cartoon that came on after Ben10 is canon when it doesn't even have the canon voice actors.
7 months ago
Anonymous
It is canon, according to George Lucas, who created and executive produced it.
7 months ago
Anonymous
Lucas gained financially from the cartoon being a success. He'd say anything to increase their relevance.
7 months ago
Anonymous
He gained financially from book sales, yet said those didn't matter, and were incompatible with his story.
7 months ago
Anonymous
>Lucas gained financially from the cartoon being a success.
No, he actually didn't. He spent more money on it than it ever made back. It was his passion project.
>When he works on the “Star Wars” properties he owns outright, Mr. Lucas has the freedom to ignore the input of others. In the case of “The Clone Wars” he is financing the series himself and charging Time Warner licensing fees to distribute the film and broadcast the show. (A person with knowledge of the company’s animation operations, speaking anonymously to avoid offending Mr. Lucas, said that the earliest episodes of “The Clone Wars” probably cost $750,000 to $1.5 million each.)
>Furthermore, there would be no cherry-picking the series; a network had to take all twenty-two episodes or lose out altogether. “It’s much easier for me to just do the show I want, [then] say, ‘Here it is, do you wish to license it or not?’” Lucas said with only a hint of exasperation. “That’s it. There’s no notes, no comments. I don’t care what your opinion is. You either put it on the air or you don’t.”
>>He'd say anything to increase their relevance.
So, you're resorting to absolute schizoposting now? "Ugh, that's not what he meant, trust me, bro!"
How pathetic.
7 months ago
Anonymous
Just because the cartoon ended up not making money, doesn't mean he didn't want to promote the shit out of them.
They were cartoons for kids. Only kids saw them.
7 months ago
Anonymous
Concession accepted.
7 months ago
Anonymous
>They were cartoons for kids. Only kids saw them.
Sure.
7 months ago
Anonymous
>It was his passion project.
He had nothing to do with their creation lmao
7 months ago
Anonymous
>"I am the father of our Star Wars movie world - the filmed entertainment, the features and now the animated film and television series,” he says. “And I’m going to do a live-action television series. Those are all things I am very involved in: I set them up and I train the people and I go through them all. I’m the father; that’s my work. Then we have the licensing group, which does the games, toys and books, and all that other stuff. I call that the son - and the son does pretty much what he wants.” He laughs. “Once in a while, they ask a question like ‘Can we kill off Yoda?’, things like that, but it’s very loose. Then we have the third group, the holy ghost, which is the bloggers and fans. They have created their own world. I worry about the father’s world. The son and holy ghost can go their own way." - George Lucas: Mr Emperor strikes back
>GEORGE LUCAS: They have their own kind of world. There's three pillars of Star Wars. I'll probably get in trouble for this but it's OK! There's three pillars: the father, the son and the holy ghost. I'm the father, Howard Roffman [president of Lucas Licensing] is the son and the holy ghost is the fans, this kind of ethereal world of people coming up with all kinds of different ideas and histories. Now these three different pillars don't always match, but the movies and TV shows are all under my control and they are consistent within themselves.
>George Lucas: We’ve been doing this for three years. We have one year finished, we’re in the middle of the second year. I’ve written the third year. We expect this to go on for at least five or six years.
>George Lucas: I haven’t limited myself with what stories I’ve wanted to tell; this is Star Wars, and I don’t make a distinction between [The Clone Wars] series and the films. It’s just a different format and a different delivery.
Why are you so moronic?
7 months ago
Anonymous
He had nothing to do with the creative process.
It's a cartoon for kids. Nobody but kids saw it.
7 months ago
Anonymous
Concession accepted, you trolling, dumb Black person idiot.
>He hired Filoni
Yes, he hired a writer for a kids cartoon (Avatar) because he wanted someone to make a kids cartoon for him.
And nobody knew who the frick he was until his name started getting astroturfed because of this Ahsoka abomination.
>Yes, he hired a writer for a kids cartoon
Dumb moron, Filoni didn't even write a single episode of the original Clone Wars run. Hahahahhaha, you don't even know the position he was hired for. How are you so moronic, you are too stupid to breathe.
7 months ago
Anonymous
There are countless interviews with Filoni where he says that specific stories and ideas in the series are from Lucas, and some of them he even said he disagreed with George, but did them anyway.
7 months ago
Anonymous
That Black person is trolling. Stop feeding him.
7 months ago
Anonymous
You dumb fricking moron. He hired Filoni, and worked alongside him for the whole series, even the ones that eventually were released years after he sold to Disney. Things like giving Anakin an Apprentice, bringing Maul back, and the Force gods were 100% Lucas. His daughter even wrote a bunch of episodes.
7 months ago
Anonymous
>He hired Filoni
Yes, he hired a writer for a kids cartoon (Avatar) because he wanted someone to make a kids cartoon for him.
And nobody knew who the frick he was until his name started getting astroturfed because of this Ahsoka abomination.
7 months ago
Anonymous
The cartoons were a money pit. He spent way more on them than any other tv cartoon of the time. Like, almost movie budgets for one season. That's part of the reason Disney cancelled it.
7 months ago
Anonymous
see
Just because the cartoon ended up not making money, doesn't mean he didn't want to promote the shit out of them.
They were cartoons for kids. Only kids saw them.
7 months ago
Anonymous
I saw them, and I was not a kid in 2008. He knew they wouldn't make their money back; there was zero possibility.
7 months ago
Anonymous
What age were you?
Because I have an extremely hard time imagining anyone older than 12 see pic related and go "hell yeah bro, Yoda is such a badass!"
7 months ago
Anonymous
yoda was great in that episode
7 months ago
Anonymous
For kids, sure.
7 months ago
Anonymous
yes, and?
7 months ago
Anonymous
And nothing. It's a great show for kids.
7 months ago
Anonymous
Star wars used to be a solid franchise for kids. Good fun kids adventures movies with hopeful themes. Now we have drags for bitter Gen-X'ers, like the ST and Blandor. Star Wars is no longer for kids, it's for no one.
7 months ago
Anonymous
>Star wars used to be a solid franchise for kids >for kids
7 months ago
Anonymous
Yes. Star Wars is for 12 years olds, and all the movies are rated G and PG. It's about clearly defined, objective good and evil that is baked into the metaphysical fabric of the setting and manifested through the Force and its Dark Side, good space wizards vs evil space wizards wearing black and evil Satan with ugly face that is cackling and shooting lightning out of his fingertips and speaks of anger and hatred all the time, and the protagonist is a kid who gets out in the big world and grows up, teddy bears defeating technological evil empire with sticks and stones because they are cute and with soul and in tune with nature, etc. This is a fairy tale for kids.
7 months ago
Anonymous
>Star Wars is for 12 years olds
Then how come the vast majority of people who saw the OT in theaters were adults?
7 months ago
Anonymous
Turns out they were just manchildren, who just went to see a new blockbuster flick, and it ended up becoming their new religion, because most of the people lacked any sort of spirituality, the classic religion was in decline, and the society as a whole was in a depressed, nihilistic state after the Vietnam war. And Star Wars came just at the right time. Sorry, bro, but those movies were for fricking kids, from the start. Literally everyone said that: Lucas said that, his wife said that, everyone who worked on them said that, Fox said that. But you are coping so hard ITT, it's hilarious. Alec Guinness would have laughed in your fricking face. Childish banalities, is what he called Star Wars.
7 months ago
Anonymous
You're a fricking moron.
7 months ago
Anonymous
Concession accepted. Sorry, but you are invested in a franchise for children. That must have hurt your ego, and now you're spiraling out of control. But it's healthier to accept the truth. There is nothing to be ashamed of.
7 months ago
Anonymous
If it's a franchise for children, then why were the absolute vast majority of people who saw the OT in theaters adults?
7 months ago
Anonymous
See:
Turns out they were just manchildren, who just went to see a new blockbuster flick, and it ended up becoming their new religion, because most of the people lacked any sort of spirituality, the classic religion was in decline, and the society as a whole was in a depressed, nihilistic state after the Vietnam war. And Star Wars came just at the right time. Sorry, bro, but those movies were for fricking kids, from the start. Literally everyone said that: Lucas said that, his wife said that, everyone who worked on them said that, Fox said that. But you are coping so hard ITT, it's hilarious. Alec Guinness would have laughed in your fricking face. Childish banalities, is what he called Star Wars.
Damn, are you legitimately moronic? Or maybe just a third worlder, who doesn't fully understand English, and you simply cannot comprehend 90% of the posts here?
7 months ago
Anonymous
The absolute vast majority of people who saw the OT in theaters were adults.
If you think all these millions of adults are "manchildren", then you're the moron, not me.
7 months ago
Anonymous
>Alec Guinness would have laughed in your fricking face
Alec Guiness was a sellout Black person who played in cashgrabs for children, he was Simon Pegg of the 70s.
7 months ago
Anonymous
Go suck your own wiener Rick, you literal gay. Shitting every SW thread with your Filonihomosexualness
7 months ago
Anonymous
Who? Are you okay? Are you an Stroony or Trandorgay? What got you so perked up, sweaty?
7 months ago
Anonymous
Yeah it's clearly for children but the cave scene and overall message was unironically good.
7 months ago
Anonymous
>Yeah it's clearly for children
Yeah, because it's Star Wars.
7 months ago
Anonymous
That's the dumbest thing I'll hear all day, I'm sure.
7 months ago
Anonymous
Imagine talking about "canon" in regards to anything that is a work of fiction. None of it happened, you dumb twat.
Sabine Wren was a trained Mandalorian versed in basic Mando combat, an explosives expert, an expert marksman, a super talented engineer that no one could copy, a talented repair technician that is able to repair anything like ship engines and weapons, is able to defeat Clone Wars veteran Mandalorian soldiers like Gar Saxon in 1v1 combat, attended in the Imperial Academy, was a fantastic Tie fighter pilot, designed a super weapon (without any help) that baffles other Imperial/Rebel/Mandalorian Engineers, was a famous Bounty Hunter throughout the Galaxy and had other Bounty Hunters owe her favors, is able to wield a lightsaber without the force and fight Jedi 1v1, comes from a famous Mandalorian family (which is basically Royalty) and was a well known Galactic Artist because of her famous art......all before the age of 14 years old! And now she's a Jedi and Force sensitive. Even surviving getting stabbed by a Lightsaber.
Holy shit are they serious with her slow-arse undisciplined looking lightsabre shit? How could she actually look worse than self-training Rey?
Remember when women in movies had more and different emotional gears than being stuck in 'Unwarranted Smug Face'? Didn't hate women before that shit was wall-to-wall.
RIP Sith Gaylord Sirko, really thought that guy was menacing in Dexter. Wondered whether he'd show up in anything else I watched. Pity being in this crap was the last thing he did. He deserved better.
I hope one day we get a look at what happened behind the scenes. Favreau basically saved the brand from obliteration with Mandalorian S1 right when the Rise of Skywalker fiasco happened. Then Filoni leeched on and inserted his characters and cartoon canon into it during S2... by S3 the whole thing was watered down and written like a cartoon for morons (the Filoni touch). It really seems like Favreau has completely jumped ship and isn't really involved with this at all.
Kenobi was so bad everyone wants to forget it even existed... same thing is happening with Ahsoka and I expect Skeleton Crew to be literal shit.
So how the frick are they going to build hype for the Mandoverse finale movie? Deepfake Luke, Leia and Han + Mandoverse avengers assemble vs. Thrawn is not going to cut it when we all know they're going to be an inert cameo and this bunch of lame Force is Female "characters" are going to take center stage.
Favreau is a hack. He wrote 6/8 episodes of S2, 6/7 episodes of Boba Fett, 7/8 episodes of S3 and he already said taht he wrote S4. He executive produced Ahsoka and Skeleton Crew. You're a Black person. Watch Sopranos. Jon Favreau is a wienersucker who steals ideas.
For me the problem starts with this: Mandoverse. The best thing about S1 was exactly that they were all original characters and far from the Skywalkers saga. It was a simple and fun story. I don't know if the main culprit is Bob Iger, Kennedy, Filone or Fraveau, but someone (or all of them together) didn't have faith that they could keep this story like that. They built an entire shared Universe on the back of Mando. Andor was saved by a miracle, she is far from perfect, but, by God, at least it is a finished show, not a Third Grade project where each student writes a chapter and another makes the presentation without having read anything
The biggest crime is that it's so goddamn slow
That alone makes it not Star Wars
There is literally no reason this shouldn't have been a 100 minute feature film
>There is literally no reason this shouldn't have been a 100 minute feature film
even a made for tv film would have been fine
clearly enough material did not exist for a series but Disney said frick it and made it anyone to fill a slot in their streaming schedule
I get why they don't show them being hacked apart, but why write in zombies if you know your protagonists use swords, and you can't show the troopers getting hacked apart?
Because I have no job, no prospects and hate myself, I watched all of this.
It's remarkable how Disney fricks these shows up, they have exceedingly high production values that can clearly be seen on screen but literally every important element of creativity is deep in the shitter.
And I'm just a guy who'll watch any old slop because my time is valueless. I sometimes feel sorry for the real sòymen who actually love star wars, I'm pretty sure it's not coming back sòybros.
it's mid. it has more cringe moments than other SW shows, but also manages to have a few good moments.
where should I start with Clone Wars?
Watched the 2008 movie, it was horrible. Surely I can skip the first few seasons?
Does the art get better or only writing?
A perfectly servicable show in the vein of Filoni slop.
Pure kino better than anything SW made since 1999
nice b8 m8
I like it and have a new favorite character
>smoker
Honestly, it instantly drops a girl by 3 points minimum if they smoke. Guys too frankly.
gay.
Based and true. The only reason to watch this show.
Shin solo show where she just does random mercenary jobs when?
Shinbros, do we prefer her to fall to the Dark Side, or for her to be "redeemed"?
We prefer her to be completely forgotten by the time Luke is molesting Ben in his bed, just like that other jedi guy, Thrawn, Ashoka etc.
her and sabine should switch sides (like when people were theorizing rey would fall to the dark side and kylo would be redeemed)
Discount Jarael
she literally does nothing, I'm not kidding, go try to erase her from the show, NOTHING CHANGES.
By the end I forgot she was supposed to be there.
they're slowly building her up and she's going to play a much bigger role in S2
The autistic blonde sith girl was the highlight.
Not enough booty on the two aliens.
>Disney makes yass queen girl boss female empowerment SW show
>all female characters are devoid of personality or an actual story arc
>resort to selling them based on sex appeal
True female empowerment
Sabine sort of had an arc.
Doing the opposite of what she did before in a similar situation isn't an arc, it's just a callback
BRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAPPP
>bring back white actor to prop up your diverse cast and trash script
im tired of this rerun bros
cartoon script with cartoon pacing in live action to make chuds mad
>failing to turn a profit on one of the world’s most beloved and known sci-fi franchises to own the trumptards
Blumpf is ruined
the problem goes way beyond just Star Wars, every entertainment company on the planet right now is in the shitter because they were out of control spending on streaming content when the entire streaming business model isn't sustainable. All of the major media conglomerates followed netflix off a cliff
and nothing of value was lost
buy the dio goym
Actual Star Wars cartoons are actually so much better, that it's not even comparable. Comparing them to this is an insult.
Was the Inquisitor on the poster even in the show? Also the lightsabers were orange for what, their first appearance and then became red?
In Disney canon red lightsabers are made by making Khyber crystals suffer and "bleed" by using the Dark Side. Those two being orange is meant to indicate they're somewhere in the middle.
Let's ignore the fact that even in the Clone Wars, their own canon show, a member of the Jedi Council had a red lightsaber.
wow that's incredibly stupid. synthetic crystals were a much more logical and simple explanation
What Jedi in Clone Wars had a red lightsaber? You're making that up.
>a member of the Jedi Council had a red lightsaber
?????
While this show has a few good moments, how the frick do you manage to make pretty much every action scene completely devoid of tension? That is some skillful work but not in a good way.
Also a shame that the only promising story is probably dead because of the actor sharing that state of being.
Do you think Shin will get her own show?
AI was such a mistake.
How so
you know perfectly well fetishgay
What the hell was your prompt
Nail implies the thing was dead when the thing came is, which SW wasn’t when TCW did
The further on we get, the more people will realize this was the real nail in the coffin of star wars
Actually, it was Kung-Fu Panda 2.
Threes of truth
I watched the whole series but I don't remember if Jabba's kid ever showed up again. Rebels was trash and I regret watching two seasons of it, but this was alright.
I don't think Stinky the Hutt ever showed up again, but I think one of the books implied the Rancor Keeper took him and they lived in the town Cobb Vanth lives in.
>runtime equivalent to a full trilogy
>literally nothing happens
Ha! We meant to waste everybody's time with vapid characters devoid of any personality. Take that chuds
>muh culture war
I hate all you homosexuals.
Uhm sorry chud. Socialism failed economically multiple times through-out the 20th century. All we have is culture now. Deal with it chud
it's Star Wars
SW is a cheap looking tv series now
Sabene was kinda hot until she cut her hair. Overall though, I was disappoint.
it gave us this qt and for that I will forever be grateful, it's too bad we're never gonna see her again.
we'll get S2
I have a faint glimmer of hope anon, but I'm not optimistic. Ahsoka underperformed and I really didn't see as much buzz for it compared to the Mandalorian or even Andor.
That being said, no Shin in Season 2 = no watch, simple as.
Filoni will likely get to make it, but with a smaller budget
If they're smart then they'll just leave Thrawn/New Republic to the movie(s). In S2 of Ahsoka they focus on characters stranded on Peridea. Instead of constantly jumping between the scenes they give all 4 of them some depth and mini-arcs, and finally reveal Baylan and Shin's backstories. Then they deal with whatever the hell is calling to Baylan.
Unfortunately, they're not smart and they'll never do it this way.
I still prefer Jade.
Excellent taste.
Choices of One was kino.
>Choices of One was kino
It was my first Star Wars book. I found it by chance in a bookstore in the imported books section here in Brazil. To this day, they haven't translated this book into Portuguese, I bought it a little before Disney started putting the Legends label on the books. It's still one of my favorite stories in all Star Wars media. Kino indeed
>Brazil
Fricking favela Black person.
Cry more, gringuinho
And stay away from drugs
They aren't similar in any way whatsoever. God, some Star Wars gays are utterly moronic. It's like you randomly interjected into a completely irrelevant conversation
>I'm trans, btw
Like, who asked? How is this redhead b***h relevant in any way whatsoever to the character of Shin Hati, other than being a female? Jesus Christ. What an absolutely inbred, low IQ fandom. Alec Guinness was right.
>character of Shin Hati
Who?
you gay
It's almost as if people hating on this show never watched it and watched their favorite eceleb dunking in it instead
I watched it, I have no idea who Shin Hati is.
The only good thing in this show was Ray Stevenson
Hayden and jailbait Ahsoka were pretty good. And David Tennant as the droid. Everyone else sucked.
The lack of period appropriate attire for Ashoka in the flashbacks ruined the entire show for me.
Imagine George's disappointment...
>Pulls up in a ridiculously long automobile
>"I don't like it Dave. I don't like it all. She's a padawan, she should be a twelve year old who dresses like a space bawd"
>"B-but George... We had a w-w-whole plan for... For a mm-m-mature Jedi! She was going to be my OC!"
>Beneath a mirrored pair of sunglasses, a yellow glow emanates from George's eyes
>"I MADE INDIANA FRICKING JONES, GIVE ME A THAI PROSTITUTE FROM THE MOON OR YOU'RE STUCK ON EWOK STORIES FOR THE REST OF YOUR MISERABLE LIFE"
>Filoni leans his head through the car window for a powerful b***hslap before Lucas drives away
Maybe Doomwiener WAS right, I'd work with Kennedy after that...
The title seems to be Star Wars Ahsoka.
Filtered
Shin Hati's adventures continue in my heart
I read somewhere that she was being setup to be Luke's love interest, which would've been interesting to see.
i think you're confusing that with people figuring that she's the disney equivalent of mara jade who was first introduced in the eu thrawn trilogy iirc
She's Mara Jade equivalent. Thankfully after Luke has been raped on screen, they're going with Ezra being Luke's equivalent.
Yeah, it's obvious she's the Mara Jade of this inferior version of Heir to the Empire, and Baylon is Joruus C'baoth (while the use of his force powers by Thrawn has been shifted to the Great Mothers).
There's a big problem, though. There's no way -NO WAY- KK's Lucasfilm is going allow Luke to be a Jedi Master with successful heterosexual relationships, so she will never be Luke's love interest. Never.
baylon would be far more interesting if he was insane and was trying to figure out how to frick thrawn over like in the books.
I saw a scene with with him fighting and he's using all these 90 degree angles and shit. That was a semi-interesting idea, but never watched it so not sure if it amounted to anything.
Is that from the EU or anything? Any of you SWgays know?
>There's no way -NO WAY- KK's Lucasfilm is going allow Luke to be a Jedi Master with successful heterosexual relationships
Lucas wouldn't have either.
I'm interested in her love.
we all are anon
unfortunately she's already been designated for BLC
Rosario Dawson has a very symmetrical face.
too bad she's old, built like a fridge, and unathletic.
AHSƧHA
AꞰ๏๏KA
3DPD. What a miscast.
This
Also sounds nothing like the actual character.
It only looks like it here. She looks like she surgery for cleft lip and her nostrils are totally different, IRL. The lip scar has been toned down for this art.
Can I watch this without the context of any other shows?
Yes. It's actually even better this way, because none of the characters act the way they used to in the shows where they originated, so you'll have no per-conceived notions about this and no expectations ruined. And the most crucial plot point of the series happens entirely off-screen anyway, so even those who had seen the shows are confused as frick. But why would you waste 6 hours of your life on this?
I don't know, sometimes I just want to appreciate for myself a show that a lot of people hate. I didn't do that with Rings of Power, but I want to with this one.
Like the first reply said, it’s probably better that way. But the acting, choreography and writing is so bad anyways it doesn’t really matter. I’d recommend just skipping any scenes with the female characters, about 90% of the show.
Absolutely not. Any one saying “yes” is already a fan who watched four seasons of another show. It makes very little sense on why you should give a solitary frick about any of these people. And doesn’t explain why Thrawn is such a big scary guy when he failed so hard in stopping and impeding the progress of the heroes. It’s pure fan service. It is unwatchable because of that.
I watched all the animated shows. And it still made very little sense and I didn't give a solitary frick about any of them, despite Ahsoka (animated) literally being one of my favorite Star Wars characters. This show is dogwater. Everything important in this show happens off-screen, and it's literally a teaser for the next live-action disney slop down the line.
>66
Yes, but it spoils/undoes the series finale of Rebels. But you weren't ever going to watch that anyway.
killing hyperbolically negative ahsoka anti-shills
ripping hyperbolically negative ahsoka anti-shills's eyes from their sockets
grating hyperbolically negative ahsoka anti-shills skin with a cheese grater
popping hyperbolically negative ahsoka anti-shills testicles with a comedically large wooden mallet
stapling hyperbolically negative ahsoka anti-shills ears together while theyre still attached
slowly increasing the temperature of a vat of oil hyperbolically negative ahsoka anti-shills are in by a rate of one degree a day
I enjoyed the few seconds of Thrawn in the first episode he was in, but couldn’t get myself to watch the last two. The show is just so shitty. Stevenson is great but so underused it’s not even worth watching because I know he died and they would have wasted him anyways. Going to watch Rome for the first time soon so I’m glad he was in this to remind me to finally start it. What a bunch of wienersuckers these homosexuals at disney are.
Star Wars ended in 1983.
Literal slop for braindead gays who will watch any new show. There's no other answer
its shit but theres a scene were we see a live action hebe ashoka and some ass shots.
Imagine being Rosario Dawson and not even providing the best depiction of the character Ahsoka in the show 'Ahsoka' in which you play the lead, Ahsoka.
Filoni fricked it up when it mattered the most. After a career leading up to this moment, he fumbled: the writing is atrocious, the acting is wooden, and the supposedly "lived-in universe" comes off as a clean plastic, LED-lit stage. The characterization? Somewhere between fanfic and utterly moronic. I think it's even worse than Book of Boba.
Take the writing for Sabine, for instance, the millenial female equivalent of the picrel meme. Half the season hinges on her rebuilding her relationship with Ahsoka: a relationship the audience knows nothing about, that got damaged because of an off-screen rift the audience knows nothing about, wo when the two of them cross their arms and enter a sulk competition, literally no one gives a frick.
But hey, she's a super-cool powerful female rebel artist Jedi Mandalorian engineer bounty hunter who needs no man, whose whole objective is to find a man but she can't show any emotion when she does because of Bechdel reasons. She sentences the whole Galaxy to war and death but is never made to face the consequences of actions because that would disempower her, so instead she's forgiven and rewarded with the power to bypass Force training and is given the "hero moment" of saving the beta male non-interest in the most visually moronic way possible. It's written worse than most fanfic.
And that's just one character's "development". The plot for the whole thing, the titular character, the "military genius" villain... everything is written on this level. Don't let the semi-interesting "dark jedi" characters fool you (Filoni fumbled their arc too), I'm telling you: this shit was abysmal.
>wearing the armor would justify the Shin wound as glancing
>being weak in the force and minimally trained doesn't change her being a literal child soldier from birth and combat veteran-- make her overcompensate by fighting dirty, closing the distance and doing MMA shit to the body so it doesn't look like a curb stomp each time-- walla, they have things to learn from each other later scissoring
>no flashbacks to contextualize anything to the non-cartoon watching audience
>no reference to Sabinine promising Ezra they'd find him
>no banter alluding to keeping promises when she jumps ship to bail Ahsoka out of the undead gangbang, or making up later over Ahsoka bailing out on her to chase the map/Baylan/Morgan
>Sabine leaves Ezra's lightsaber WITH HIM ON THE SHIP like bad poetry and fights full Mando styling on the undead troopers as counterpoint to the "it's not about wielding a light saber"
There were any number of simple characterization devices available and this greasy italian yes man didn't make use of any of them. The only excuse for this shit on top of the amateur hour circus over at Disney is a short writing/development time and having Kennedy proactively breathing down your neck without Favreau. Shit's embarrassing.
her giving up the map willingly gave her some complexity as a character. If you can’t understand that in real life people aren’t 2D and have their own motivations beyond absolute good and absolute evil, that’s on you my guy.
The way Filoni refused the characters to address the grave moral consequences to that action ("it's complicated", "a story for another time", "you did the right thing, Sabine", etc.) is both hilarious and sad. Retroactively fricked that plot point so bad it's a perfect example of how deeply amateurish the writing on this series was.
>my guy
he's not your guy, friend
The worst thing about Sabine in this show is that she undoes Ezra's sacrifice, and we don't even really know why. If she wants his schlong, she sure doesn't act like it when she finally finds him. But worse than all that, is the fact that Ahsoka needlessly involves her to begin with. She's mad Sabine didn't destroy the map, BUT SHE COULD HAVE DONE THAT HERSELF in the first 10 minutes of the show. But couldn't, because the show had 7.83 episodes to go.
Yeah. And it's even more moronic than that. Morgan Elsbeth's plan in the first ep is to use her droids' mega nuke to kill Ahsoka... with an explosion that would also destroy the map and with it the only way to find Thrawn.
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This shit doesn't stand the most basic level of scrutiny.
Yeah, that's a big problem.
Because Google Maps doesn't use up to date satellite images, you can actually see the outdoor set of this temple in El Segundo, CA on there right now. Amazingly, it wasn't the volume, they really built it.
Nightsister Temple coordinates:
33.906972,-118.385696
sabine is definitely the most cringe character in disney star wars so far, with the tone set in her total badass entrance - they were so desperate to force home the point how much of a bad ass she was but her action scenes were awful. Trying to imagine what the stormtroopers felt having to collapse to the floor while this moron dad shuffled around wafting a lightsaber behind her with no look deflections as she's shooting at things off camera. This show also seemed to mostly revolve around her. Hera could have competed with most cringe title if they gave her more stuff to do
>show named after character
>show actually revolves around different character
Trying to have their sequel shit cake and eat George's original VII-IX treatments too, badly. And amateur live action director with dialogue en par with Dave & Dan in GOT, same hack level of pregnant pauses and emoting laundered as proper exposition.
Why haven't they announced season 2?
Because it’s not happening. It’s about as likely as Rian Johnson’s trilogy at this point.
Because Hollywood actors would rather be unemployed for a long time, since they can afford to not "work".
>never heard of Dave Filoni before in my life
>suddenly his name gets dropped non stop
>figure he must've been involved in the OT to have this much of a legendary status
>look him up
>his first involvement in Star Wars was some animated horseshit
You frickers are falling for a psyop. Dave Filoni is quite literally a nobody.
don't use words you don't understand
Making Cinemaphile constantly drop the name of a complete nobody is the result of a highly successful psyop.
Baskin-Roberts trust fund band
Lucas liked Avatar The Last Airbender, so he personally chose Filoni to showrun his Star Wars cartoon. Later told Bryce Dallas Howard that Filoni is like a son to him.
>Star Wars cartoon
Exactly, a kid's cartoon. Completely irrelevant to the Star Wars canon.
>kid's cartoon
Star Wars is for kids. It's all PG, edging on PG-13 occasionally.
>Completely irrelevant to the Star Wars canon.
Not according to Lucas. 6 movies and The Clone Wars were the only things that constituted Lucas canon.
>Star Wars is for kids.
You're moronic.
>Not according to Lucas
It's a kids cartoon.
>You're moronic.
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>It's a kids cartoon.
Star Wars is for kids. And the features have so much CGI that they can be called half-cartoons.
Do you enjoy being moronic?
Star Wars is not for kids, you moron.
It has goofy moments, but so do actual horror movies.
And the cartoons are extremely for kids.
>Star Wars is not for kids, you moron.
It is.
>It has goofy moments, but so do actual horror movies.
lol
lmao
Is that your argument? Wait, what exactly is your argument here? What makes Star Wars *not* for kids?
>And the cartoons are extremely for kids.
Just as much for kids as the movies. Isn't any different in the slightest.
>What makes Star Wars *not* for kids?
Adult themes like incest and suicide, for starters.
>Just as much for kids as the movies.
The cartoon is literally a kiddie cartoon that aired during kiddie cartoon time.
>Adult themes like incest and suicide, for starters.
>LE VIOLENCE!
So, like the cartoon? I also don't remember any of the movies featuring suicide and the incest was not intentional, because Leia was not intended to be Luke's sister in the first two films.
>The cartoon is literally a kiddie cartoon that aired during kiddie cartoon time.
The cartoon is literally TV-PG-V, which is the equivalent of PG-13. It aired in the evenings and on AdultSwim.
At this rate, I am positive that you're a shitposting moron.
Anon, look at Anakin's facial expression when he sees her on the ground.
It's a kiddie cartoon.
And it has nothing to do with the canon.
The Disney shows aren't canon either, and even they don't follow the previous non-canon from the cartoons.
Concession accepted.
Why did Lucas got so fat?
He stopped doing cocaine, and became a fat hack. Spielberg stopped doing cocaine and just became a normal sized hack
when did Lucas stop?
I'm guessing he started around Empire?
>So, like the cartoon?
If you made films like Army of Darkness scene for scene in 3d animation, it would be considered a cartoon for kids too.
Not really. Army of Darkness has blood, gore and profanities. Any cartoon with those would be considered an adult cartoon. Star Wars films don't have any of those.
Just look at all this seethe lmao
Lucas hired showrunners and directors for kids cartoon (Filoni, Tartatovsky, ...), and let his daughter who was like 15 at the time write episodes.
And it was visually a very childish version of Star Wars.
It was a kids cartoon that only kids watched, and they CERTAINLY had no idea who the frick Filoni was. Nobody did, until you shills started astroturfing his name to promote the Ahsoka abomination.
hey, katie lucas wrote some good episodes like the nightsisters arc, mauls return and bounty
Black person, your concession has already been accepted. Tongue my anus.
Imagine thinking a cartoon that came on after Ben10 is canon when it doesn't even have the canon voice actors.
It is canon, according to George Lucas, who created and executive produced it.
Lucas gained financially from the cartoon being a success. He'd say anything to increase their relevance.
He gained financially from book sales, yet said those didn't matter, and were incompatible with his story.
>Lucas gained financially from the cartoon being a success.
No, he actually didn't. He spent more money on it than it ever made back. It was his passion project.
>When he works on the “Star Wars” properties he owns outright, Mr. Lucas has the freedom to ignore the input of others. In the case of “The Clone Wars” he is financing the series himself and charging Time Warner licensing fees to distribute the film and broadcast the show. (A person with knowledge of the company’s animation operations, speaking anonymously to avoid offending Mr. Lucas, said that the earliest episodes of “The Clone Wars” probably cost $750,000 to $1.5 million each.)
>Furthermore, there would be no cherry-picking the series; a network had to take all twenty-two episodes or lose out altogether. “It’s much easier for me to just do the show I want, [then] say, ‘Here it is, do you wish to license it or not?’” Lucas said with only a hint of exasperation. “That’s it. There’s no notes, no comments. I don’t care what your opinion is. You either put it on the air or you don’t.”
>>He'd say anything to increase their relevance.
So, you're resorting to absolute schizoposting now? "Ugh, that's not what he meant, trust me, bro!"
How pathetic.
Just because the cartoon ended up not making money, doesn't mean he didn't want to promote the shit out of them.
They were cartoons for kids. Only kids saw them.
>They were cartoons for kids. Only kids saw them.
Sure.
>It was his passion project.
He had nothing to do with their creation lmao
>"I am the father of our Star Wars movie world - the filmed entertainment, the features and now the animated film and television series,” he says. “And I’m going to do a live-action television series. Those are all things I am very involved in: I set them up and I train the people and I go through them all. I’m the father; that’s my work. Then we have the licensing group, which does the games, toys and books, and all that other stuff. I call that the son - and the son does pretty much what he wants.” He laughs. “Once in a while, they ask a question like ‘Can we kill off Yoda?’, things like that, but it’s very loose. Then we have the third group, the holy ghost, which is the bloggers and fans. They have created their own world. I worry about the father’s world. The son and holy ghost can go their own way." - George Lucas: Mr Emperor strikes back
>GEORGE LUCAS: They have their own kind of world. There's three pillars of Star Wars. I'll probably get in trouble for this but it's OK! There's three pillars: the father, the son and the holy ghost. I'm the father, Howard Roffman [president of Lucas Licensing] is the son and the holy ghost is the fans, this kind of ethereal world of people coming up with all kinds of different ideas and histories. Now these three different pillars don't always match, but the movies and TV shows are all under my control and they are consistent within themselves.
>George Lucas: We’ve been doing this for three years. We have one year finished, we’re in the middle of the second year. I’ve written the third year. We expect this to go on for at least five or six years.
>George Lucas: I haven’t limited myself with what stories I’ve wanted to tell; this is Star Wars, and I don’t make a distinction between [The Clone Wars] series and the films. It’s just a different format and a different delivery.
Why are you so moronic?
He had nothing to do with the creative process.
It's a cartoon for kids. Nobody but kids saw it.
Concession accepted, you trolling, dumb Black person idiot.
>Yes, he hired a writer for a kids cartoon
Dumb moron, Filoni didn't even write a single episode of the original Clone Wars run. Hahahahhaha, you don't even know the position he was hired for. How are you so moronic, you are too stupid to breathe.
There are countless interviews with Filoni where he says that specific stories and ideas in the series are from Lucas, and some of them he even said he disagreed with George, but did them anyway.
That Black person is trolling. Stop feeding him.
You dumb fricking moron. He hired Filoni, and worked alongside him for the whole series, even the ones that eventually were released years after he sold to Disney. Things like giving Anakin an Apprentice, bringing Maul back, and the Force gods were 100% Lucas. His daughter even wrote a bunch of episodes.
>He hired Filoni
Yes, he hired a writer for a kids cartoon (Avatar) because he wanted someone to make a kids cartoon for him.
And nobody knew who the frick he was until his name started getting astroturfed because of this Ahsoka abomination.
The cartoons were a money pit. He spent way more on them than any other tv cartoon of the time. Like, almost movie budgets for one season. That's part of the reason Disney cancelled it.
see
I saw them, and I was not a kid in 2008. He knew they wouldn't make their money back; there was zero possibility.
What age were you?
Because I have an extremely hard time imagining anyone older than 12 see pic related and go "hell yeah bro, Yoda is such a badass!"
yoda was great in that episode
For kids, sure.
yes, and?
And nothing. It's a great show for kids.
Star wars used to be a solid franchise for kids. Good fun kids adventures movies with hopeful themes. Now we have drags for bitter Gen-X'ers, like the ST and Blandor. Star Wars is no longer for kids, it's for no one.
>Star wars used to be a solid franchise for kids
>for kids
Yes. Star Wars is for 12 years olds, and all the movies are rated G and PG. It's about clearly defined, objective good and evil that is baked into the metaphysical fabric of the setting and manifested through the Force and its Dark Side, good space wizards vs evil space wizards wearing black and evil Satan with ugly face that is cackling and shooting lightning out of his fingertips and speaks of anger and hatred all the time, and the protagonist is a kid who gets out in the big world and grows up, teddy bears defeating technological evil empire with sticks and stones because they are cute and with soul and in tune with nature, etc. This is a fairy tale for kids.
>Star Wars is for 12 years olds
Then how come the vast majority of people who saw the OT in theaters were adults?
Turns out they were just manchildren, who just went to see a new blockbuster flick, and it ended up becoming their new religion, because most of the people lacked any sort of spirituality, the classic religion was in decline, and the society as a whole was in a depressed, nihilistic state after the Vietnam war. And Star Wars came just at the right time. Sorry, bro, but those movies were for fricking kids, from the start. Literally everyone said that: Lucas said that, his wife said that, everyone who worked on them said that, Fox said that. But you are coping so hard ITT, it's hilarious. Alec Guinness would have laughed in your fricking face. Childish banalities, is what he called Star Wars.
You're a fricking moron.
Concession accepted. Sorry, but you are invested in a franchise for children. That must have hurt your ego, and now you're spiraling out of control. But it's healthier to accept the truth. There is nothing to be ashamed of.
If it's a franchise for children, then why were the absolute vast majority of people who saw the OT in theaters adults?
See:
Damn, are you legitimately moronic? Or maybe just a third worlder, who doesn't fully understand English, and you simply cannot comprehend 90% of the posts here?
The absolute vast majority of people who saw the OT in theaters were adults.
If you think all these millions of adults are "manchildren", then you're the moron, not me.
>Alec Guinness would have laughed in your fricking face
Alec Guiness was a sellout Black person who played in cashgrabs for children, he was Simon Pegg of the 70s.
Go suck your own wiener Rick, you literal gay. Shitting every SW thread with your Filonihomosexualness
Who? Are you okay? Are you an Stroony or Trandorgay? What got you so perked up, sweaty?
Yeah it's clearly for children but the cave scene and overall message was unironically good.
>Yeah it's clearly for children
Yeah, because it's Star Wars.
That's the dumbest thing I'll hear all day, I'm sure.
Imagine talking about "canon" in regards to anything that is a work of fiction. None of it happened, you dumb twat.
Sabine Wren was a trained Mandalorian versed in basic Mando combat, an explosives expert, an expert marksman, a super talented engineer that no one could copy, a talented repair technician that is able to repair anything like ship engines and weapons, is able to defeat Clone Wars veteran Mandalorian soldiers like Gar Saxon in 1v1 combat, attended in the Imperial Academy, was a fantastic Tie fighter pilot, designed a super weapon (without any help) that baffles other Imperial/Rebel/Mandalorian Engineers, was a famous Bounty Hunter throughout the Galaxy and had other Bounty Hunters owe her favors, is able to wield a lightsaber without the force and fight Jedi 1v1, comes from a famous Mandalorian family (which is basically Royalty) and was a well known Galactic Artist because of her famous art......all before the age of 14 years old! And now she's a Jedi and Force sensitive. Even surviving getting stabbed by a Lightsaber.
But she can bypass the compressor?
it's over
>dual mandalorian jedi backstories like some kind of pirate ninja
My sides.
>fat Thrawn
>pottery
Did they let Cinemaphile write the episode kek
Holy shit are they serious with her slow-arse undisciplined looking lightsabre shit? How could she actually look worse than self-training Rey?
Remember when women in movies had more and different emotional gears than being stuck in 'Unwarranted Smug Face'? Didn't hate women before that shit was wall-to-wall.
RIP Sith Gaylord Sirko, really thought that guy was menacing in Dexter. Wondered whether he'd show up in anything else I watched. Pity being in this crap was the last thing he did. He deserved better.
When did Honest Trailers start being funny again?
6:02 shamelessly ripping off the Rinzler fight from Tron.
I hope one day we get a look at what happened behind the scenes. Favreau basically saved the brand from obliteration with Mandalorian S1 right when the Rise of Skywalker fiasco happened. Then Filoni leeched on and inserted his characters and cartoon canon into it during S2... by S3 the whole thing was watered down and written like a cartoon for morons (the Filoni touch). It really seems like Favreau has completely jumped ship and isn't really involved with this at all.
Kenobi was so bad everyone wants to forget it even existed... same thing is happening with Ahsoka and I expect Skeleton Crew to be literal shit.
So how the frick are they going to build hype for the Mandoverse finale movie? Deepfake Luke, Leia and Han + Mandoverse avengers assemble vs. Thrawn is not going to cut it when we all know they're going to be an inert cameo and this bunch of lame Force is Female "characters" are going to take center stage.
Favreau is a hack. He wrote 6/8 episodes of S2, 6/7 episodes of Boba Fett, 7/8 episodes of S3 and he already said taht he wrote S4. He executive produced Ahsoka and Skeleton Crew. You're a Black person. Watch Sopranos. Jon Favreau is a wienersucker who steals ideas.
For me the problem starts with this: Mandoverse. The best thing about S1 was exactly that they were all original characters and far from the Skywalkers saga. It was a simple and fun story. I don't know if the main culprit is Bob Iger, Kennedy, Filone or Fraveau, but someone (or all of them together) didn't have faith that they could keep this story like that. They built an entire shared Universe on the back of Mando. Andor was saved by a miracle, she is far from perfect, but, by God, at least it is a finished show, not a Third Grade project where each student writes a chapter and another makes the presentation without having read anything
>Hayden Christensen still hasn't been in a good Star Wars project
It's like poetry.
Tell me any really good Star Wars project since the classic trilogy
Good point
It's for girls and trannies
The biggest crime is that it's so goddamn slow
That alone makes it not Star Wars
There is literally no reason this shouldn't have been a 100 minute feature film
>There is literally no reason this shouldn't have been a 100 minute feature film
even a made for tv film would have been fine
clearly enough material did not exist for a series but Disney said frick it and made it anyone to fill a slot in their streaming schedule
Star Wars always had slow pacing dude
Not like this. Ahsoka is close in length to the entire OT.
>entire conflict between the 2 main leads starts completely off screen before the show even began
Filoni you fricking hack!
what star tards deserve
Every scene of characters talking to each other is directed like a Mass Effect cutscene, awkward pauses included
An insult to intelligence.
I get why they don't show them being hacked apart, but why write in zombies if you know your protagonists use swords, and you can't show the troopers getting hacked apart?
Because MUH CAMEO
Because I have no job, no prospects and hate myself, I watched all of this.
It's remarkable how Disney fricks these shows up, they have exceedingly high production values that can clearly be seen on screen but literally every important element of creativity is deep in the shitter.
And I'm just a guy who'll watch any old slop because my time is valueless. I sometimes feel sorry for the real sòymen who actually love star wars, I'm pretty sure it's not coming back sòybros.
it's mid. it has more cringe moments than other SW shows, but also manages to have a few good moments.
where should I start with Clone Wars?
Watched the 2008 movie, it was horrible. Surely I can skip the first few seasons?
Does the art get better or only writing?
you watch ALL of TCW anon
otherwise you become a filonigay
I'd rather skip it then