Wtf? Rewatching The prequels and Count Dooku literally just spoils the entire plot to Obi Wan right here. Why's he a sith? His actions don't match his beliefs
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Wtf? Rewatching The prequels and Count Dooku literally just spoils the entire plot to Obi Wan right here.
dooku was gaslightning obiwan
it was a humiliation ritual , bro
Star Wars ended in 1983. Everything made afterwards is just noncanon fanfiction.
The modern ones are decent and they have a go make a revolution message.
Give it a rest. Either like it or don't just shut up. Why do you insist on surrounding yourself with things that upset you?
dooku wanted a competent apprentice because he planned on offing palpatine. its not hard op, its a movie for babies
Did he know palpatine was Darth siddious?
Duh.
>Was telling me your master plan before killing me part of your master plan count Dooku?
He wants him to noin him. So he opens up to create an intimate atmosphere.
Like a lot of the jedi who turn to the dark side, Dooku allowed himself to get tempted in to doing sith shit and quickly got in over his head where he could never get out of it without putting himself in greater peril. He doesn't really like being a sith but he feels redemption is out of sight for him. Like all sith, he's planning to kill his master so he's laying SOME cards on the table to try and gain Obi-Wan's support.
this, obi wan as a sith apprentice would be really powerful
Why do sith need Apprentices? They just betray Everytime. Why do you need two?
Either because it leads to an increasingly strong line of individual dominating Siths who each must be better than their master, or because Darth Bane who created the rule was soul-hopping to his murderer each time
>Fan fiction
Not interested
They need an apprentice because in case one of them dies, the sith legacy continues.
They are also stronger as a pair, the master can send the apprentice out without worry of his own personal safety.
Are Siths a religion or something? Do they ever explain in the movies? All I know is they deal in absolutes
>Do they ever explain in the movies?
Yes you fricking idiot.
>obi wan as a sith apprentice would be really powerful
Obi Wan really isn't that powerful. He's average in terms of Jedi Masters
>Obi Wan really isn't that powerful. He's average in terms of Jedi Masters
>beats the chosen one in a 1v1
>hes mid
>beats the chosen one in a 1v1
How did he pull it off bros?
Uh anon, he had the high ground.
He taught Anakin since he was a boy and they were like brothers plus Anakin got overconfident at a pivotal moment.
since they trained together they both knew each other's moves
that's why the fight is a stalemate up until they get out on the lava plain and anakin finally loses his cool, giving obi-wan a chance to outplay him
Obi Wan won because Anakin was arrogant.
Why do so many idiots say this? What feats do any Jedi in the prequels not named Mace Windu, Yoda, or Anakin have that even come close to Obi-Wan's? Qui-Gon was killed by the guy Obi-Wan killed. You have the dinosaur guy who was killed by Jango Fett. The "masters" who were killed by Palpatine in about two seconds. Ki-Adi Mundi and Aayla Secura were killed by clone troopers. Obi-Wan was far above average.
Could obi wan have taken sheev?
Obi lost to Dooku every single time. Even Yoda tells him "to fight Darth Sidious strong enough...you are not"
Yoda was pretty mid himself
It doesn't make sense he was just there to die
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Post Star wars Kinos. I'll start
>Darth Maul
What in gods name is this death trap
Naboo
>Why's he a sith? His actions don't match his beliefs
Are you fricking moronic? He is literally trying to turn Kenobi to overthrow Sidious and become a Sith Master himself. That's the most Sith thing Sith can do. moronic homosexual, Jesus. How fricking stupid can you be? Unironically just have a nice day, you low IQ mongoloid. These are movies for children. They are not that hard. I get a feeling most of you homosexuals are either underage or actual sub-90IQ Black folk. The absolute fricking state of this board.
>become a Sith Master himself. That's the most Sith thing Sith can do. moronic homosexual,
Is he? Or is he just doing what needs to be done since the Jedi are too arrogant
>sub-90IQ
That’s about 25% of everyone. That’s not that crazy bro.
Maybe I’m wrong but I always thought it was the dumbest level of reverse psychology. Dooku told Obiwan that, knowing that Obiwan could never agree to listen to him because Dooku is a bad guy. Dooku can therefore totally control Obiwan’s actions. It’s Opposite Day-tier shit.
So is his whole thing that he doesn't go by the book? Do you think being around would've helped Obi Wan, Dooku, Anakin?
He would have been Anakin’s father pretty much.
Doesn’t go by the book? He was more of a traditional Jedi than the council.
>dooku
Probably could have redeemed him
>obi wan
Would have taught him to be more patient and wiser.
>anakin
Probably would have gone on a questline to save his mother, and helped him manage his feelings much better than obi wan would have
>Doesn’t go by the book? He was more of a traditional Jedi than the council
Why aren't they traditional Jedi?
They serve the Republic more than the Force directly.
Too concerned with politics, and they taught that embracing your feelings was wrong. An idea that qui gon believed was absurd
They are good at heart, but bureaucrats.
Gary stu
If he survived he probably would have saved Anakin and Dooku from ever joining the dark side and could have caught Sheev
Sheev would've killed him knowing he was a threat
He could have saved Anakin, from the start. He is way more compasionate, patient and understanding. I can totally see him go out of his way to adopt Anakin, form a father-son bond despite the Jedi teachings. And be happy about it.
Dooku told obi wan the truth because qui gon was his apprentice, and hoped that some of his influence passed on to obi wan. Obi wan’s judgement was clouded by politics and not feeling
It's almost like Kenobi doesn't believe Dooku when he is literally saying "Palpatine is the dark lord who controls the senate"
BECAUSE THE JEDI ARE ARROGANT which is one of the main themes of the prequels. It was their arrogance that lead to the fall of the jedi order
You just read the YouTube comments
How does it feel knowing that the kind of people who post youtube comments understood the movie better than you?
You literally used the same words. You dumber than YouTube comments because you plagiarized them
>Everyone who disagrees with me is the same person
Arrogant, just like the jedi
>t. Wishes he could right as well as people who comment on YouTube
I was 12 when AOTC was released and even then it was pretty obvious Dooku was just being 100% honest with Obi. The jedi dont believe him because they think the dark side is full of shit
Even Yoda says something like "the dark side clouds everything" because they genuinely believe their OWN side of the force is 100% flawless and correct
>pretty obvious Dooku was just being 100% honest with Obi
He's not he literally wants to use him to take down palpatine. You're all moronic
>Why's he a sith?
sith aren't all necessarily cartoonishly evil but dooku fits the mould
>we need to stop sidious before he becomes too powerful and manipulates everyone into doing his bidding
>to beat him, i'll have to grow more powerful and manipulate the separatists into do-- oh
Personally, I think Padmé should've been the one to discover the clone army on Kamino. Landing there and walking out in her white outfit in the soaking rain.
It just makes more narrative sense.
>Personally, I think Padmé should've been the one to discover the clone army on Kamino. Landing there and walking out in her white outfit in the soaking rain.
>It just makes more narrative sense.
a senator going on a fact finding mission with a jedi sounds plausible to me, but her going alone wouldnt be.
why a clone army of Temura Morrison when you could clone Nat?
Now we're cooking
It's kinda fricked up how Star Wars was designed to turn generations of children into good loyal Democrats, what with the Empire/Sith just representing Republicans. So when you have a character like Dooku that has noble motivations, almost everybody just denies that there's anything to him because he's on the bad guy team, so really he must just lust for power.
>Dictatorships are bad
>Wow how anti-reoublican of him!
What?
A sane message would be that it's the people themselves that matter, not the form of government itself. For example nobody can reasonably complain that Charlemagne was running an autocratic dictatorship. The issue with the Sith is that they're just blanket evil and there's no countercurrent to that, it's like Palpatine's takeover of the Republic is straight out of the transition of the Roman Republic into an Empire, but it doesn't show any of the complexities of that situation and just plays Caesar as a completely power-mad tyrant.
It's wrong to teach people to think in such black and white terms.
>but it doesn't show any of the complexities of that situation
It did in episode 1 and people called it boring shit and were too stupid to follow.
It wasn't difficult to follow. It was boring because of the execution.
No, it only showed shallow complexity. As in the technical details of the conflict like it being about trade taxation and the senate being locked in procedural minutia. But Palps was just controlling the whole thing and the Nemoidians were simply pathetic and greedy.
The only real complexity comes when Padme decides to say frick the senate and go free the planet herself, but then in the next movies she's the postergirl of the true Republic in opposition to Palpatine. If after TPM she was actually opposed to the Republic and supported a secessionist movement, that's more complex.
Kys incel chud
>Defends democracy
How could the libs do this
Why are people so utterly fricking incapable of understanding the prequels? It’s almost like they go out of their way to misinterpret everything. Are Star Wars fans actually just moronic?
>Are Star Wars fans actually just moronic?
Is this rhetorical? Have you seen their conventions?
Bros, media literacy has fallen... Billions must watch ten hour youtube essays...
They don’t understand the originals either.
It's just zoomers with ADHD from growing up with smartphones. Every adult over the age of 30 understood the plot of the prequels
The leading discourse about the prequels for a decade was made by 2 gen xers who didn't understand the movies and didn't care to.
If the ancient Jedi simply executed the dark Jedi rebels, The Sith in its modern form would've never existed, btw.
>child Anakin stands in middle of jedi council
>Coruscant looks bright and clear
>adult Anakin stands in middle of jedi council
>Coruscant looks dark and cloudy
Kino
>there are heroes on both sides