X-Men 97

>will be out in 3 or 4 months
>still no trailer

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  1. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    I can't wait to see a show based on the style of an era forced to conform to modern bullshit.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      I know, right!?

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Cyclop's actor is dead and Allison isn't allowed to play her original character even though Jubilee is like fifth generation Chinese AMERICAN with so little ties to China that the Manadrin actually got mad about it once.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          And Magnetos voice actor is dead too right? Rogue's struggles with the voice. This is gonna be a mess

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            How many people even got Jubilee was supposed to be Chinese? Like seriously, Lee is a pretty common surname for a lot of countries and her whole persona is cynical gen x mallrat

            I'm not hopeful

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              Everyone but you and baby kids knew. We’re not dumbasses. It’s obvious what her ethnicity was.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        How many people even got Jubilee was supposed to be Chinese? Like seriously, Lee is a pretty common surname for a lot of countries and her whole persona is cynical gen x mallrat

        I'm not hopeful

        Now that's a face worth protecting.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        You just know she's never going to frick up ever even though her whole thing is that she's young and inexperienced.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          >she's young and inexperienced.
          After five seasons?

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah, we had five seasons of Jubilee ending up as butt of the joke 90% of time. Of course, going on the opposite side of the spectrum would be bad, but it's time for her to prove her worth.

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              I don't think anyone would complain if she proved her worth. Even in the old show she had her moments. It's just a matter of X-tremes.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Hence, there was that 10% of time.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      This. What's the point of rehashing the 90's but making it reflect current day woke issues? It's basically just a paint job

      I know, right!?

      I wonder if they'll get a VA that has a stereotypical Chinese accent or if they hired someone born in California, in which case they may as well have just used the original VA

      Does it have any of the original writers or is it modern writers?
      Because it's not the name and look that made it good, it was the writing.

      It was all largely mined from Claremont stories, I don't think there's much left to harvest. Don't expect quality by any means

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        >I wonder if they'll get a VA

        They've already announced the voice cast and they've already hired all of the old voices, save for Magneto and Xavier.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          They were referring to JubiRee who isn't coming back for woke reasons

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        It really tells you something about X-Men when just from the 70s and 80s alone they got a ton of stories for the 90s X-Men show, but from the 90s on, thats an entire 30 years, there's like a handful of stories they can adapt.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      X-men was always woke

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        It was classical liberal and was promoting colorblindness, which is the opposite of the wokeism that just takes Hitler's speeches and replaces every occurrence of israelite with a white man.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          No one cares Sargon lmao
          X-men was never for chud bigots

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            At least you care enough to inform me of your indifference, Netflix Hitler.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          >was promoting colorblindness

          Lol it’s funny when white boys talk about racism and discrimination

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous
      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah and that part of it was always trash. People didn’t open it to get a very poor lecture by comparison to the Civil Rights movement. They wanted to see a bunch of superpowered circuits freaks fight.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      We know what we won't get

  2. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    6 months anon.
    They already said in May that the show won’t premiere until January 2024.

  3. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Does it have any of the original writers or is it modern writers?
    Because it's not the name and look that made it good, it was the writing.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      I don't know. It's been 30 years, so it might be a bunch of new guys, assuming they haven't all been fired. In that case, they'll butcher it so bad, that they may as well have made something else.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      It's got a modern showrunner that starts shit on twitter and then cries about it.

  4. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Place your bets...

    number of reoccuring characters that are now homosexual

    number of mixed race couples

    number of characters introduced that did not exist in 1997

    times a male character needs rescued

    times a female character needs rescued

    number of costumes changed to reveal less

    number of times canon is retconned for seemingly no reason

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Well the creators seem to be clear that they aren't fans of the Krakoa arc. So make of that what you will. Plus these bets seem rather superfluous, there were many instances where characters had to be rescued. And Northstar made an appearance in the original series.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        >And Northstar made an appearance in the original series.
        Barely. Everyone and their dog made a cameo.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        I don't remember his sexuality being a focus of any of the episodes. I have a creeping suspicioun this show will focus on these topics. "Muties" isn't going to be a good enough representation of hate for some woke writers. It's fine if that's what the creators want to create I just doubt I'll like it.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          >I don't remember his sexuality being a focus of any of the episodes.
          Because he barely had a speaking role at all. He was in some crowed shots and then shot some shoots in a group battle.

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            Okay Longshot appeared in an entire episode. The focus was somehow the villain and the situation and I don't remember his sexuality ever coming up... big fears of this new show changing tones...

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              He was talking about Northstar not Longshot (who is straight). They already had the legacy virus episodes in the 90's cartoon which was a rebranded AIDS.

              I don't mind gay characters being aknowledged, but if we start getting non binary pronoun bullshit and all the Tumblr crap that only spilled out into society in the last decade I'll be pissed

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                sorry confused Shatterstar with his dad Longshot

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          >OC "I'm hated because I'm black and gay!" character
          >their mutant power is spontaneously setting everything within a 2km radius on fire at random intervals

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        > they aren’t fans of the krakoa era

        unlike this series the krakoa era stories actually come out on time

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      The real question is: will Kurt be christian when he shows up, and if so will that be portrayed as bad?

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        No, because the goal is to brainwash children. Instead, Kurt will show how Catholics actually love LGBT stuff and children should adopt it right away because LGBT is hip and cool.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          It's weird how these things that are clearly meant to appeal to people who had to have been around to actually see the thing are also child-geared like that most of the time

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        No, because the goal is to brainwash children. Instead, Kurt will show how Catholics actually love LGBT stuff and children should adopt it right away because LGBT is hip and cool.

        If that's the case I'll suspect it wouldn't be that relevant at the very least. Plus in the comics, Kurt said himself that Northstar's sexuality wasn't an issue. That he even saw him in heaven. And don't worry about his new Krakoan theology as the writer's made it clear that they're not interested in the Krakoa arc.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        I suspect they won't touch religion with a 10 foot poll nowadays, even if it was important to them as characters so much that I could swear to you an episode ended with Wolverine reading a bible in the old series

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          yeah Nightcrawler didn't give Wolverine the brown and black costume in the show, but he did give him some God. Can't tell by your grammar but yeah there was an episode where Ngihtcrawlers monestary gets destroyed and at the end Wolerine is caught praying by Rogue if you were unsure. As someone who isn't religious at all I found it to be atouching episode as a child. Sure I like all the action and powers but I always like a story with strong morale, I don't care about the faith attached.

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah, my grammar was dogshit my last post, was looking over some spreadsheet stuff for work while typing on my phone with my other hand, if I'm honest with you

  5. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Thank god Jean lost the ponytail, hopefully she's not completely useless outside of the phoenix episodes this time

  6. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    why did they get rid of the fo-leotard on jean but keep the undies on wolverine and cyclops.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      She's powerful enough to support her vegana telekinetically now

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      panties on the outside is wolverine and cyclops most iconic look

  7. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Things I remember about the cartoon:
    MOOOOORPH
    Megamold, why did the sentinel factory have to be a bigger sentinel? Actually what was that whole volcano lair base thing supposed to do if the giant sentinel produced the sentinels? Just support?
    Apocalypse tricking that angel wing mutant into having cyborg wings.
    Some space war stuff that I didn't really link with X-Men, Talshiar?

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Things I remember about the cartoon:
      I've actually been rewatching it. It's surprisingly really good. It's cleaned up and more TV friendly but it's actually surprising just how heavy it get in dealing with character drama and emotions.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      it was based watching it all as a kid. We love Apoc and Angel a lot.

  8. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Jubilee is chinese?

  9. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Is it the original show worth watching or is it just a product of it's time and redundant when the complete Claremont run is accesible?

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      There's def a lot of nostalgia goggles for people, but for me it still holds. Animation can fall apart sometimes, voice acting can be pretty campy and bad someitmes... but characters use their powers... cameos happen all the time. Stories have developed characters with real motivations.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        I would argue the campiness makes it work.
        It's why I'm sceptical about the new series, because this kind of thing is unique to its time and if done now will either feel like a cheap imitation or be covered in 100 layers of irony.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          I don't think it's campy at all. In fact I love the way it actually commits to what it's selling. There's zero irony or self deprecation here. Everything is 100 percent committed to what they're selling. And it's wonderful.

          What's your top 5 episodes of the original series?
          For me it's, in no particular order
          Obsession
          Enter Magneto
          A Rogue's Tale
          Mojovision
          Have Yourself a Morlock Little X-Mas (I don't care how corny it is, I find it very endearing)

          >What's your top 5 episodes of the original series?
          Oh boy. Tough call. I'm gonna cheat and include some arcs but in no order.

          Proteus: Always one of my favorite stories. The cartoon version actually sold Proteus as a scared child and Moira's desperation even better than the comic in a lot of ways I think.

          Night of Sentinels: Very strong start of the series. There's loss, vengeance, mourning. Scared parents who love but don't know how to help their child. Said child who doesn't know their place or what's happening to them. The talk between Beast and Jubilee I think is not just one one of the best parts of the show but also I think one of the moments that helped define the X-men's core.

          Final Decision. Another S1 episode. But Magneto and the X-men's team up was just fantastic. "Do you think I would let you die alone, Xavier."

          Dark Phoenix Saga. Kind of stinks Jean doesn't fricking die. But I actually like the ending they had here too. It was always a hot debate how much Jean was really responsible and the story was great for a lot of reasons, not just her death so it still works.

          Nightcrawler. Because Nightcrawler. And it's nice to see a show not shy away from religious themes and the subject of faith.

          It's just honestly a really good show.

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Nightcrawler
            They even gave Mystique some vulnerability and depth in his follow up episode

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous
              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Kino

                I love that MVC is heavily based on the comics of the time and the opening is nostalgic but that's all it was, it was just a lame cartoon from the 90's come on people

                You're wrong for the reasons

                I just mentioned above, but I still think it's really good. Like I said it makes things a bit more friendly but you still get a lot of the heavy pathos and soap opera drama that drove the Claremont. I wouldn't say it's redundant to the comics at all, in fact it's quite enjoyable to watch side by side actually.

                [...]
                The characters have a lot of weight. Especially for what's a kids show. They left in the themes of loneliness, unrequited love and child abuse things like that. Characters spoke in huge words and everything had a real sense of gravitas.

                See this shit right here? Hear how the characters address each other? How they speak and debate?

                That's right Xavier just straight up mind fricked Xavier with the horrors of war. Imagine being fricking like 8 when you see this.

                and

                I don't think it's campy at all. In fact I love the way it actually commits to what it's selling. There's zero irony or self deprecation here. Everything is 100 percent committed to what they're selling. And it's wonderful.

                [...]
                >What's your top 5 episodes of the original series?
                Oh boy. Tough call. I'm gonna cheat and include some arcs but in no order.

                Proteus: Always one of my favorite stories. The cartoon version actually sold Proteus as a scared child and Moira's desperation even better than the comic in a lot of ways I think.

                Night of Sentinels: Very strong start of the series. There's loss, vengeance, mourning. Scared parents who love but don't know how to help their child. Said child who doesn't know their place or what's happening to them. The talk between Beast and Jubilee I think is not just one one of the best parts of the show but also I think one of the moments that helped define the X-men's core.

                Final Decision. Another S1 episode. But Magneto and the X-men's team up was just fantastic. "Do you think I would let you die alone, Xavier."

                Dark Phoenix Saga. Kind of stinks Jean doesn't fricking die. But I actually like the ending they had here too. It was always a hot debate how much Jean was really responsible and the story was great for a lot of reasons, not just her death so it still works.

                Nightcrawler. Because Nightcrawler. And it's nice to see a show not shy away from religious themes and the subject of faith.

                It's just honestly a really good show.

                mentioned. There aren't any cartoons today with the serious commitment and gravitas the series had. Everything is lightweight inane phoned in bullshit these days. It definitely deserves to be up there with batman TAS

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                It's honestly tragic how few shows really want to go the distance. If it's not banal or watered down it's undermined by forced humor.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Topped off with wacky CAL-ARTs "animation"

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                >I will beg God to bestow his grace on me so that I may learn to forgive you
                >Then I will ask him to bestow his grace on you so that you might forgive yourself
                holy shit

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah I know right

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            I would add Enter Magneto to that list. Mags saying “Better to die on your feet than to live on your knees” hit me hard as a 6 year old.

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              It was certainly one I considered. S1 was VERY strong.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      The CC comics are better, but it's still charming to see the stories come to life, and there were a few original stories. The voice acting is stellar and are the defining voices IMO

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      I just mentioned above, but I still think it's really good. Like I said it makes things a bit more friendly but you still get a lot of the heavy pathos and soap opera drama that drove the Claremont. I wouldn't say it's redundant to the comics at all, in fact it's quite enjoyable to watch side by side actually.

      There's def a lot of nostalgia goggles for people, but for me it still holds. Animation can fall apart sometimes, voice acting can be pretty campy and bad someitmes... but characters use their powers... cameos happen all the time. Stories have developed characters with real motivations.

      The characters have a lot of weight. Especially for what's a kids show. They left in the themes of loneliness, unrequited love and child abuse things like that. Characters spoke in huge words and everything had a real sense of gravitas.

      See this shit right here? Hear how the characters address each other? How they speak and debate?

      That's right Xavier just straight up mind fricked Xavier with the horrors of war. Imagine being fricking like 8 when you see this.

  10. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    What's your top 5 episodes of the original series?
    For me it's, in no particular order
    Obsession
    Enter Magneto
    A Rogue's Tale
    Mojovision
    Have Yourself a Morlock Little X-Mas (I don't care how corny it is, I find it very endearing)

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      1. Bloodlines
      2. Red Dawn
      3. Repo- Man
      4. Mojovision
      5. A Deal with the Devil

      Honorable mention to Proteus

      these are all guesses form the wiki based off my favorite characters... I haven't seen this stuff since fox kids or wherever it was on

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Proteus
        These two episodes would mindbreak nu-Cinemaphile judging by The Last Wish threads, kek.
        >Logan is emotionally traumatized after fighting Proteus

  11. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Didn't they have Logan save Leech in one episode with a blood transfusion only to kill Leech of anyway in another episode?

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      No? The show got away with a lot but I very much doubt the fox censors would let them up and kill a kid.

  12. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    I love that MVC is heavily based on the comics of the time and the opening is nostalgic but that's all it was, it was just a lame cartoon from the 90's come on people

  13. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    dplus will be dead by then rolled up with espn and whatever else they own

  14. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    This is another idea from Cinemaphile they ripped off. We literally wanted this to happen.

  15. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Morphbros….. we’re home.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      shit gay art style

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      big fan of 90s x men in general... so how come there's a character I have zero clue who he is on a cover photo and why do I feel as if his sexuality is going to play a role in his character

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Who's the OC DONUT homosexual

        that’s sunspot

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          My Aunt Petunia that's Sunspot. And assuming it even is.
          >Escalating an extremely minor from the original to the standing of main character
          Yep, that's a modern reboot. Wait was Sunspot ever even in the original?

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Wait was Sunspot ever even in the original?
            No lol. I don't think any of the new mutants were. I hope to god we don't get Kitty Pryde here either

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              I swear a few of them probably made background cameos.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Warlock starred in a 2 parter and Wolfsbane appeared in a non speaking appearance as part of X-Factor. Magik had 1 or 2 appearances as a child. I'm fairly certain that was it

                There is a lot of shit they can do since the original cartoon was hamstrung by censorship issues:

                Mutant Massacre (we never got the Marauders and Mr Sinister is supposed to be a major villain in the show)

                Fall of the Mutants (X-Men versus Adversary with Forge stuck in the middle)

                Zaladane kidnapping Polaris and stealing her powers/trying to take over the Savage Land

                Arena (Storm discovers mutant gladiator fights secretly run by Masque of the Morlocks, who's gone troony)

                Wolverine getting kidnapped/tortured by the Reavers and Jubilee having to save him

                The Twelve/Ages of Apocalypse (Apocalypse kidnaps twelve mutants to use their power to activate an alien device to give him Godlike powers and it causing time/space to fracture creating vignettes of the X-Men in various alternate universe scenarios)

                E For Extinction (Cassandra Nova destroys Genosha and the X-Men must fight her and her Sentinels)

                Asgardian Wars (Loki kidnaps Storm and the X-Men to use as pawns to try and take over Asgard while Thor is away)

                Sad Inferno isn't really feasible

                They won't, because only mutant men from the future can voice those characters.

                Wasn't Bishop supposed to be born around now, when most of the mutants were dead or in camps?

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Wasn't Bishop supposed to be born around now, when most of the mutants were dead or in camps?
                Never thought about that. How are they going to portray Bishop's future, aka now to thirty years?

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Would be easy enough to just roll the apocalypse timeline into shit going marvel crazy in 2020 and adjust the tech from there.

                I'd be more concerned about the wink, wink, nudge, nudge shit they'll do in the present with internet, twitter, cellphones, etc.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          the hell it is

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Who's the OC DONUT homosexual

  16. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >If only there was a giant comic book convention that takes place in San Diego in the end of July or a yearly Disney expo that happens every September.

    OP is brainless

  17. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >It turns out the vast majority of homosexuals have shit character and were always judged accordingly
    You're lucky that times have changed for your benefit, Homo.

  18. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Anyone find any leaks or know what studio is animating this?

  19. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'm starting to get annoyed

  20. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    There is a lot of shit they can do since the original cartoon was hamstrung by censorship issues:

    Mutant Massacre (we never got the Marauders and Mr Sinister is supposed to be a major villain in the show)

    Fall of the Mutants (X-Men versus Adversary with Forge stuck in the middle)

    Zaladane kidnapping Polaris and stealing her powers/trying to take over the Savage Land

    Arena (Storm discovers mutant gladiator fights secretly run by Masque of the Morlocks, who's gone troony)

    Wolverine getting kidnapped/tortured by the Reavers and Jubilee having to save him

    The Twelve/Ages of Apocalypse (Apocalypse kidnaps twelve mutants to use their power to activate an alien device to give him Godlike powers and it causing time/space to fracture creating vignettes of the X-Men in various alternate universe scenarios)

    E For Extinction (Cassandra Nova destroys Genosha and the X-Men must fight her and her Sentinels)

    Asgardian Wars (Loki kidnaps Storm and the X-Men to use as pawns to try and take over Asgard while Thor is away)

  21. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    i really hope Lawrence Bayne and Phillip Akin are coming back as Cable and Bishop.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      They won't, because only mutant men from the future can voice those characters.

  22. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Jube looks to have gotten more asian. Hope she gets a vamp arc as well.

    But I'm worried about Rogue getting ass nerfed.

  23. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'm just fricking dreading what they're going to do to my boy Gambit. I know he ends up alright enough in the comics when it's all said and done but it's just a gut feeling I got that him and Scott are somehow going to get fricked on.
    Also if Jubilee ends up with an oriental accent I'm going to be annoyed as frick considering how far away she is from her roots

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