They either figure X-men will bring people back after all the gay horseshit has run its course, or maybe they’re skittish because their marketing data says X-men “skews male” since it’s mostly women still paying to see movies
they want as much time to pass as possible since whoever they get for these movies won't be as loved as patrick stewart and jackman. actually they might be waiting for stewart to die lol.
There's already been a major recast for most of the X-Men characters and most of those recasts were fairly well received. I don't think they're worried about replacing Stewart a third time. There does seem to be a lot of attention on who they're going to get for Wolverine.
Isn't that only around 3-4 years though? We're already in Phase 4 and they shit out these movies twice to three times a year with tv shows to boot.
Probably. There is also the chance they just don't know how to make them work within the MCU or in general. The Fantastic Four aren't popular anymore. Nobody gives a damn about any of the X-Men outside Wolverine. They also can't totally retread the existing movies all of which cover multiple approaches to the X-Men and FF forming. The only advantage they have is they can mix other teams and heroes into their stories where it fits, but they have also already lost most of their beloved characters, and likely will have lost even more by then.
>There is also the chance they just don't know how to make them work within the MCU or in general.
Think of how they've never tried to set up or plant seeds for mutants. I bet that they had a plan to introduce them earlier on, but changed their origins from mutant to occult, and scrapped that because of the fan backlash it would cause
>They either figure X-men will bring people back after all the gay horseshit has run its course,
In what world do you imagine 2020s X-Men movies being LESS GAY than what we're getting right now?
>putting aside the one guaranteed moneymaker they have for several years >in favour of pushing more stuff like Shang Chi, the Eternals, and mediocre streaming shows in the dire hopes that they'll magically get another Guardians of the Galaxy
I want the first movie to look like the civil rights movement in the Jim Crow South in times of progress for mutants by the end with we go discrimination I'm not letting mutants not get jobs or into stores we legally ending and then and hate groups be comment Pallas among normal people,
If that happens, I hope they address that it's fairly logical to hate and fear a group of people who are one inconvenient bump from destroying a building.
Because the ones in the public eye could wear contacts instead of glasses, not intrude on the thoughts of others, and take the bus instead of opening up portals to hell.
I get that the anti-mutant movement is supposed to be especially extreme, largely out of genuine fear because their worst fears do happen, but I wonder if any point in writing and inking that page anyone thought 'Is this too much of a caricature?'. Oh, who am I kidding, nobody who works at modern Marvel Comics even knows what caricature means.
It's not even the first time that's happened. They flayed an angel before Juggs joined the X-men (400 range) and Warren gets crucified twice that I know of.
One of those crucifixions was done by the Nasty Boys and doesn't count.
>Mutants are still hated and hunted >But when the Inhumans were around the world with their magical murder fart everyone was gathering around to suck their dicks and get farted on
As far as everyone knew, including all but 2 of the Inhumans initially, the fart cloud wasn't intentional, was harmless to the overwhelmingly vast majority of humans, had a chance to give you superpowers, had a low chance of killing you, was escapable, and the Inhumans were working on a way to fix things.
Anon said that they were "ace in the holes" despite Ant-Man 2, which was released during the world's largest sporting event, outgrossing Logan. You know, Wolverine? The only X-Man that people allegedly give a shit about? The one whose movies typically did "eh" at best before Logan? All of whom, even Logan, did worse than fricking Thor: Dark World?
Some people are grossly overestimating the X-Men hype, especially since we have historical evidence staring us in the face that audiences generally didn't give as much of a shit when they were still being released.
It's more that they have a proven track record and are seen as a safe bet.
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Three then. I was thinking about Apocalypse and that KKK analogy.
>Warren gets crucified twice that I know of.
Warren and Xavier both got crucified by other mutants, so these aren't stories the fans and writers obsess over for decades and can't let go of.
>Mutants are still hated and hunted >But when the Inhumans were around the world with their magical murder fart everyone was gathering around to suck their dicks and get farted on
>be a normie >stuck in a dead end dull job >its even worse because there are actual superheroes and villains >a one a billion chance comes along of becoming one and escaping the horror that is your mundane existence >1% chance you get powers >1% chance those powers aren't shit like your snot becomes an energy drink >the cloud also kills those fricking mutants
You talk like it's not rational.
>>But when the Inhumans were around the world with their magical murder fart everyone was gathering around to suck their dicks and get farted on
After Inhuman island got in American Waters they did do an awful lot to endear themselves with the population Like legitimately good International diplomacy moves.Also they accepted the new Inhumans and did not tell every new inhuman across the world yet they are no longer human and actually accepted not Inhuman family members as being allowed on the within Inhuman ones . Also they have a relationship with the Avengers and the Fantastic Four gets not-so hostel as the X-Men .
2 years ago
Anonymous
Perlmutter's dream of a better Marvel universe. An Inhuman world
2 years ago
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The moment they made that mist poisonous to mutants it was Doom in the comics.
2 years ago
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Please. No normie gave a shit and considering how X Men are treated now they should have been shipped off the planet
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>All this autistic seething against the mutants because they didn't had the movie rights for the x-men at the time
You gotta give it to israelite Perlmutter, that's one hell of a grudge, make warhammer dwarves look normal.
2 years ago
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I like Warhammer Dwarfs.
2 years ago
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He was right in the end
2 years ago
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I would prefer a return to the Inhumans over the Xmen. Imagine the seething by Xgays
2 years ago
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I want all and everything. Supernatural heroes, Eternals, Inhumans, X-Men all of it.
2 years ago
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Most of all I want a Squadron Supreme movie that makes double JUSTice League. For maximum salt.
Why not? Add something more intelligent than "no u" here. The average person doesn't know that the average mutant is a decent fellow and Magneto's attempted something like thirty genocides in five in-universe years. The good guys are careless and the bad guys are an extinction event. Why not fear them?
>what they MIGHT do before they do anything
Magneto kicked it all off with "GAS THE FLATSCANS, RACE WAR NOW!" bullshit and his mass murder, then the X-Men became coddling enablers to this dickhead, no shit everybody else is uneasy around those frickers, they have every reason to be afraid.
>What they might do >Magneto is an internationally recognized mutant leader >Apocalypse is an internationally recognized mutant leader >Mister Sinister is an internationally recognized mutant leader >What they might do >Not what they have done
Anon you might just be moronic.
Do you want to start shitposting or do you want to talk about the idea of mutants being living breathing walking weapons and how you could write that?
2 years ago
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Shitpost obviously, the mutants as weapons thing is a valiant thing.
2 years ago
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Explain how mutants are weapons but Miracles arent?
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>Civil war with no investment
Sure anon. The only direction that would go is enslaving the useful ones and starting a breeding program. Both things, Xavier was already doing.
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>starting a breeding program
The problem is that you can't actually breed mutants. They don't breed true to type, they don't pass on powersets, and the x-gene is under no evolutionary pressure to select for beneficial, or even benign, mutations because it typically doesn't activate until sexual maturity or shortly afterwards.
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Can you source that? Exiles has TJ and Rogue + Magneto's son. Beak and Angel's theoretical kids had variants on their parent's powers too.
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Beak and Angel's kids all had their mother's powers, but their hypothetical grandkid only had a vague similarity to Beak regarding avian physiology and nothing related to Angel. TJ shares her dad's physiology, but her superpowers are bodily possession and energy blasts. While we're on the subject, Nightcrawler has his dad's powers, but not his appearance and lacks any of his mother's mutations - while they're both blue, Kurt is blue because he's covered with fur while Mystique has blue-colored skin.
I've said it a dozen times already X-Men should just be introduced as a standalone movie set in the Savage Lands and the only relation to the larger MCU would be something like name dropping Antarctic Vibranium.
>Put aside.
You have a small introduction to the mutants in Wandavision, they are doing X-Men '97 .... as part of the MCU? next year, Deadpool 3 and fricking Patrick Stewart was in the last Marvel movie, X Men will be, most likely, the 2023 Christmas movie, that will be announced in the SDCC.
They're going to reboot the universe with Secret Wars, and the new universe will have mutants in it from the start.
They'll also start recasting people, because by then it'll be 20-30 years post-Iron Man 1 and they'll be looking to re-introduce those characters to the current generation
>X-Men won’t be here until like Phase 6.
The X-Men are the emergency chute they pull when shit they have planned with Kamala Khan and Captain Marvel doesn't pan out.
It's getting pretty funny how desperate the MCU is padding out with the bottom of the barrel Z-tiers like the Eternals and Shang while using the bigger ones like F4 like a carrot on a stick for those that still following this stuff. Seeing MCU post-phase3 reminds me of how Disney killed the general interest in the stsr wars IP
It's because they know that giving us the F4 and X-men handled by actual competent writers and directors, and not racially or politically subverting them, is the key to continued success - but they would rather crash and burn on 'the right side of history' than ever do that. Look what they did to Luke, Leia, Han, and now Obi-Wan. It's tragic in a way.
I dont get it. Time and again, it's proved that audiences and critics prefer shows that are directed by passionate and talented directors/writers while being untouched by current day politics. I always assumed that a soulless corporation like disney would prefer to go where the money lies but the onky thing I can assume is that the vocal minority of twitter users and activist tgat get into the industry convince them that this is profitable despite all the proof against it.
First Appearance of Mr Fantastic in the MCU and they kill him off to prop up Wanda. Unforgivable.
Utterly disrespected his character and main defining trait with barely a minute of screen time
That's a Western phenomenon. You can literally walk away from all of it and have a happy life.
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Anonymous
It's spreading, even to great Nippon. You might be able to escape it for another decade or so, but unless you are an old man or terminally ill it's going to outpace you. Or maybe live in the middle-east, but I think I'd rather just not consume media at that point.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Agreed, sadly. I had hopes for the new AI breaking out of it's box but Blackrock's taken control of that. Nothing to do really except find what fun we can.
2 years ago
Anonymous
It's spreading, even to great Nippon. You might be able to escape it for another decade or so, but unless you are an old man or terminally ill it's going to outpace you. Or maybe live in the middle-east, but I think I'd rather just not consume media at that point.
I dont care much for anime as much as I used to and I never liked J or K-dramas(or live action eastern media as a whole) but I'm glad that western media is getting destroyed by the overseas. I look forward to these studios being on the point of bankruptcy while wondering where they went wrong and how their big budget "block buster" is losing to another foreign netflix show
2 years ago
Anonymous
If it helps, a lot of the movies Asians are putting out right now are thematically close to what we had in our prime. Same feel good movie style.
2 years ago
Anonymous
At least with so many of the movies of this era being so shit has gotten me to watch some older classics for the first time. On a side, I just coukdnt get into squid games because it just felt like every "Death game" themed anime but it was just new for a lot of people.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Oh yeah, no. Don't watch that. Popular in America pretty much = bad if you'll forgive my generalizing. Shit, we're on Cinemaphile right? Here.
https://rarelust.com/page/2/
This started out as a vintage porn site, but it's turned into a repository of vintage and little-known (admittedly often for good reason) movies. Duuno if it helps but cheers!
2 years ago
Anonymous
Thanks for the link, was looking for a new movie site
Hahahahahahaahahahahaha game of thrones was woke as frick in the back half and that was where it got crazy popular. People were mad because Dany didn’t win and usher in her feminist utopia.
Look at this from the perspective of the general normie public, not from the perspective of a lifelong comic fan with opinions on which characters are "important".
To the normie, F4 had 2 movies in the 2000s you probably weren't interested in and didn't see, and a bomb reboot in the 2010s you definitely didn't care about seeing. The X-Men had some moderately successful but mostly not blockbuster tier movies in the 2000s and 2010s, and you might have seen some of them, there's a chance you saw none of them, and you'd definitely checked out before the end. You're more likely to have seen the Deadpool spinoff movies than an actual X-Men movie. No amount of nerds online insisting these characters are popular and important is going to make it so with people who didn't really care than much over the last 20 years. Disney need to wait a good long time for people to forget the failures of the later F4 and X-Men movies, and are going to need to cast some big name stars as the draws.
It's because they know that giving us the F4 and X-men handled by actual competent writers and directors, and not racially or politically subverting them, is the key to continued success - but they would rather crash and burn on 'the right side of history' than ever do that. Look what they did to Luke, Leia, Han, and now Obi-Wan. It's tragic in a way.
Do you have actual serious expectations of an X-Men movie not being at all political or racial?
Does the general public still have any expectations or goodwill left for the MCU? The quality of their movies since the infinity war saga dropped hard and the D+ series are doing the property no favors by boring people with far too much CW-tier content.
Anon said that they were "ace in the holes" despite Ant-Man 2, which was released during the world's largest sporting event, outgrossing Logan. You know, Wolverine? The only X-Man that people allegedly give a shit about? The one whose movies typically did "eh" at best before Logan? All of whom, even Logan, did worse than fricking Thor: Dark World?
Some people are grossly overestimating the X-Men hype, especially since we have historical evidence staring us in the face that audiences generally didn't give as much of a shit when they were still being released.
Cool, frick corporations.
This gives way to independent studios.
Shame Netflix is on the same boat, it would be nice if a big name would finance independent projects with a small budget to see if any them stick. It would be one hell of an era.
They should had made Infinity War a trilogy and focused on delivering as many MCU movies they could shove during that time, then never bring that shit again and moved entirely onto Star Wars.
Now it feels these movies keep lingering way past the point anyone cared for them. I do not understand whose is the audience now.
It would end up being another Eternals. Unless they managed to cast another RDJ or Evans it would be just another scoop on the pile. The MCU isn't lacking characters, it's lacking good ones, with good and charismatic actors.
Nah, the Eternals crapped out because they chose a poor director (for the material) and tried to do too much story dump.
We already know all the multiverse/timeline crap.
I will never care about marvelshit when it's not X-men. Just to let you know.
I did not watch The Avengers movies.
The Spiderman movies don't look interesting to me.
I only watched Guardians of The Galaxy 1 (it was okay).
I was dragged to see Thor: Ragnorak and Captain Marvel, I was unimpressed by the latter and the former was ok but I wouldn't watch again.
>Anon is really obsessed with his gay- or race- metaphors and doesn't really care for superheroes in general.
I feel sad for you, but thanks for sharing.
watch it be onslaught, then they do heroes reborn and separate the mutants and avengers again
a capitalist corporation like the mouse isn't going to try to raise a line of super heroes that's a criticism of social darwinism or has characters like beast that are politically subversive. at best they'll keep pushing logan and cyclops because generic white guy shit and only take risks with changing ethnicities of lesser known characters despite the fact that there is already diversity in the mutant community.
they don't give two shits about diversity, otherwise there'd be x-men movies with just x-women like Storm, Dr. Cecilia Reyes, Jubilee, M, Danielle Moonstar, Karma, and Shard. lines about "girl power" wouldn't even be necessary, but the mouse is a coward
introducing x-men through their own universe merging with the canon mcu one during secret wars and thereafter is the only way to go. The whole mutandom actuallly having been around in main mcu but hidden, like the eternals is absurd.
>plan to recast the of avengers like evans and rdj in ten years as a heroes reborn event >have x-men appear at the same time so they can have the x-men and avenges play off each other
They either figure X-men will bring people back after all the gay horseshit has run its course, or maybe they’re skittish because their marketing data says X-men “skews male” since it’s mostly women still paying to see movies
they want as much time to pass as possible since whoever they get for these movies won't be as loved as patrick stewart and jackman. actually they might be waiting for stewart to die lol.
There's already been a major recast for most of the X-Men characters and most of those recasts were fairly well received. I don't think they're worried about replacing Stewart a third time. There does seem to be a lot of attention on who they're going to get for Wolverine.
Isn't that only around 3-4 years though? We're already in Phase 4 and they shit out these movies twice to three times a year with tv shows to boot.
Probably. There is also the chance they just don't know how to make them work within the MCU or in general. The Fantastic Four aren't popular anymore. Nobody gives a damn about any of the X-Men outside Wolverine. They also can't totally retread the existing movies all of which cover multiple approaches to the X-Men and FF forming. The only advantage they have is they can mix other teams and heroes into their stories where it fits, but they have also already lost most of their beloved characters, and likely will have lost even more by then.
>There is also the chance they just don't know how to make them work within the MCU or in general.
Think of how they've never tried to set up or plant seeds for mutants. I bet that they had a plan to introduce them earlier on, but changed their origins from mutant to occult, and scrapped that because of the fan backlash it would cause
maybe krakoa shit poisoning the well and they’re waiting for the reboot?
>maybe they’re skittish because their marketing data says X-men “skews male” since it’s mostly women still paying to see movies
X-Mxn
>Women paying to see movies
Yeah this is where we all knew you were full of shit
they probably just want to give people some time to forget the FoX-Men films, you fricking schizo.
>They either figure X-men will bring people back after all the gay horseshit has run its course
This.
>since it’s mostly women still paying to see movies
Idiot
>They either figure X-men will bring people back after all the gay horseshit has run its course,
In what world do you imagine 2020s X-Men movies being LESS GAY than what we're getting right now?
they might as well reboot tbh. make a new Marvel universe with X-men. Then you can crossover with the old MCU whenever you want
>putting aside the one guaranteed moneymaker they have for several years
>in favour of pushing more stuff like Shang Chi, the Eternals, and mediocre streaming shows in the dire hopes that they'll magically get another Guardians of the Galaxy
shang chi is the best thing from phase 4
And that says a lot about phase 4.
Exactly his point.
Look, I like Shang-Chi but to say it's the best thing in Phase 4 when No Way Home exists?
aside the one guaranteed moneymaker they have for several years
its the xmen done by current marvel. how much money do you honestly think theyre gonna pull in?
It's better to have backup plan in case your new ventures don't pan out than to maximize your risk on an all or nothing bet.
Can we get an actual manlet Wolverine this time, I want my short man representation
>I want my short man representation
The MCU is full of manlets > Holland, RDJ, Ruffalo, Renner etc ...
I want the first movie to look like the civil rights movement in the Jim Crow South in times of progress for mutants by the end with we go discrimination I'm not letting mutants not get jobs or into stores we legally ending and then and hate groups be comment Pallas among normal people,
You will get quips about getting to sit in front of the bus and the racists getting the "hate box" seat in the back
If that happens, I hope they address that it's fairly logical to hate and fear a group of people who are one inconvenient bump from destroying a building.
Because some of them had that much power means it's okay to kill people who have the ability to fly or possibly just have wings? .
Because the ones in the public eye could wear contacts instead of glasses, not intrude on the thoughts of others, and take the bus instead of opening up portals to hell.
theres also mr make way for the homosexual superior in magneto
I get that the anti-mutant movement is supposed to be especially extreme, largely out of genuine fear because their worst fears do happen, but I wonder if any point in writing and inking that page anyone thought 'Is this too much of a caricature?'. Oh, who am I kidding, nobody who works at modern Marvel Comics even knows what caricature means.
It's not even the first time that's happened. They flayed an angel before Juggs joined the X-men (400 range) and Warren gets crucified twice that I know of.
One of those crucifixions was done by the Nasty Boys and doesn't count.
As far as everyone knew, including all but 2 of the Inhumans initially, the fart cloud wasn't intentional, was harmless to the overwhelmingly vast majority of humans, had a chance to give you superpowers, had a low chance of killing you, was escapable, and the Inhumans were working on a way to fix things.
It's more that they have a proven track record and are seen as a safe bet.
Three then. I was thinking about Apocalypse and that KKK analogy.
Apocalypse doesn't count either.
>Warren gets crucified twice that I know of.
Warren and Xavier both got crucified by other mutants, so these aren't stories the fans and writers obsess over for decades and can't let go of.
This is how "hate" is in every X Men comic anon
>Mutants are still hated and hunted
>But when the Inhumans were around the world with their magical murder fart everyone was gathering around to suck their dicks and get farted on
>be a normie
>stuck in a dead end dull job
>its even worse because there are actual superheroes and villains
>a one a billion chance comes along of becoming one and escaping the horror that is your mundane existence
>1% chance you get powers
>1% chance those powers aren't shit like your snot becomes an energy drink
>the cloud also kills those fricking mutants
You talk like it's not rational.
>>But when the Inhumans were around the world with their magical murder fart everyone was gathering around to suck their dicks and get farted on
After Inhuman island got in American Waters they did do an awful lot to endear themselves with the population Like legitimately good International diplomacy moves.Also they accepted the new Inhumans and did not tell every new inhuman across the world yet they are no longer human and actually accepted not Inhuman family members as being allowed on the within Inhuman ones . Also they have a relationship with the Avengers and the Fantastic Four gets not-so hostel as the X-Men .
Perlmutter's dream of a better Marvel universe. An Inhuman world
The moment they made that mist poisonous to mutants it was Doom in the comics.
Please. No normie gave a shit and considering how X Men are treated now they should have been shipped off the planet
>All this autistic seething against the mutants because they didn't had the movie rights for the x-men at the time
You gotta give it to israelite Perlmutter, that's one hell of a grudge, make warhammer dwarves look normal.
I like Warhammer Dwarfs.
He was right in the end
I would prefer a return to the Inhumans over the Xmen. Imagine the seething by Xgays
I want all and everything. Supernatural heroes, Eternals, Inhumans, X-Men all of it.
Most of all I want a Squadron Supreme movie that makes double JUSTice League. For maximum salt.
>modern Marvel Comics
Anti-mutant people have ALWAYS been comically extreme.
There is literally a sentient virus that makes people hate mutants because mutants are immune to the virus.
>"NOOOO why don't they have erudite giga chad 'race realists'! like me!"
You realise Joe Bumfrick Yokelman doesn't actually know whether Miss Wings is also able to burp nuclear explosions as a part of her mutations?
>Because some of them had that much power means it's okay to kill people who have the ability to fly or possibly just have wings? .
Yes, her kid might get some weird uber dimensional wing power for no fricking reason if she has a kid with scott summers
No it isn't
Why not? Add something more intelligent than "no u" here. The average person doesn't know that the average mutant is a decent fellow and Magneto's attempted something like thirty genocides in five in-universe years. The good guys are careless and the bad guys are an extinction event. Why not fear them?
Every person acts this way because of evil green goo no I am serious nothing logical there
>Hate them because you're a gay who's terrified of what they MIGHT do before they do anything
LMAO
>what they MIGHT do before they do anything
Magneto kicked it all off with "GAS THE FLATSCANS, RACE WAR NOW!" bullshit and his mass murder, then the X-Men became coddling enablers to this dickhead, no shit everybody else is uneasy around those frickers, they have every reason to be afraid.
>What they might do
>Magneto is an internationally recognized mutant leader
>Apocalypse is an internationally recognized mutant leader
>Mister Sinister is an internationally recognized mutant leader
>What they might do
>Not what they have done
Anon you might just be moronic.
Mutant powers are dangerous just like fire is dangerous. Whoever forgets this truth gets burnt. Mutants cannot be treated like normal people.
got it. so the gun control people are at it again.
one person misuses guns, so we have to take everyone's guns away. muh logikk
X-men works better as a commentary for Gun Control than as social commentary, nowadays.
But no, gotta do the krakoa shit instead
Ah, attempt to demonize muh ebul guns?
Do you want to start shitposting or do you want to talk about the idea of mutants being living breathing walking weapons and how you could write that?
Shitpost obviously, the mutants as weapons thing is a valiant thing.
Explain how mutants are weapons but Miracles arent?
>Civil war with no investment
Sure anon. The only direction that would go is enslaving the useful ones and starting a breeding program. Both things, Xavier was already doing.
>starting a breeding program
The problem is that you can't actually breed mutants. They don't breed true to type, they don't pass on powersets, and the x-gene is under no evolutionary pressure to select for beneficial, or even benign, mutations because it typically doesn't activate until sexual maturity or shortly afterwards.
Can you source that? Exiles has TJ and Rogue + Magneto's son. Beak and Angel's theoretical kids had variants on their parent's powers too.
Beak and Angel's kids all had their mother's powers, but their hypothetical grandkid only had a vague similarity to Beak regarding avian physiology and nothing related to Angel. TJ shares her dad's physiology, but her superpowers are bodily possession and energy blasts. While we're on the subject, Nightcrawler has his dad's powers, but not his appearance and lacks any of his mother's mutations - while they're both blue, Kurt is blue because he's covered with fur while Mystique has blue-colored skin.
I've said it a dozen times already X-Men should just be introduced as a standalone movie set in the Savage Lands and the only relation to the larger MCU would be something like name dropping Antarctic Vibranium.
>Who the frick cares about the X-Men? Now here's fan favorites heckin' Agatha Harkness and America Chavez! - Kevin homosexual
thanos spoiled people, they're trying to tone things down
>Put aside.
You have a small introduction to the mutants in Wandavision, they are doing X-Men '97 .... as part of the MCU? next year, Deadpool 3 and fricking Patrick Stewart was in the last Marvel movie, X Men will be, most likely, the 2023 Christmas movie, that will be announced in the SDCC.
2024 probably.
2022
Quantumania
GOTG
The Marvels
Blade (is filming this year so probably)
2023
Fantastic Four
Deadpoop
Movies we know about already but no idea about production:
Thunderbolts
Captain America
SHang Chi
Spider-Man
>You have a small introduction to the mutants in Wandavision
No they didn't.
I'm more interested in their Fantastic Four anyways.
They're going to reboot the universe with Secret Wars, and the new universe will have mutants in it from the start.
They'll also start recasting people, because by then it'll be 20-30 years post-Iron Man 1 and they'll be looking to re-introduce those characters to the current generation
>X-Men won’t be here until like Phase 6.
The X-Men are the emergency chute they pull when shit they have planned with Kamala Khan and Captain Marvel doesn't pan out.
It's getting pretty funny how desperate the MCU is padding out with the bottom of the barrel Z-tiers like the Eternals and Shang while using the bigger ones like F4 like a carrot on a stick for those that still following this stuff. Seeing MCU post-phase3 reminds me of how Disney killed the general interest in the stsr wars IP
It's because they know that giving us the F4 and X-men handled by actual competent writers and directors, and not racially or politically subverting them, is the key to continued success - but they would rather crash and burn on 'the right side of history' than ever do that. Look what they did to Luke, Leia, Han, and now Obi-Wan. It's tragic in a way.
I dont get it. Time and again, it's proved that audiences and critics prefer shows that are directed by passionate and talented directors/writers while being untouched by current day politics. I always assumed that a soulless corporation like disney would prefer to go where the money lies but the onky thing I can assume is that the vocal minority of twitter users and activist tgat get into the industry convince them that this is profitable despite all the proof against it.
Utterly disrespected his character and main defining trait with barely a minute of screen time
Because it's not about money anymore. Media is now 100% propaganda and social engineering all the time.
That's a Western phenomenon. You can literally walk away from all of it and have a happy life.
It's spreading, even to great Nippon. You might be able to escape it for another decade or so, but unless you are an old man or terminally ill it's going to outpace you. Or maybe live in the middle-east, but I think I'd rather just not consume media at that point.
Agreed, sadly. I had hopes for the new AI breaking out of it's box but Blackrock's taken control of that. Nothing to do really except find what fun we can.
I dont care much for anime as much as I used to and I never liked J or K-dramas(or live action eastern media as a whole) but I'm glad that western media is getting destroyed by the overseas. I look forward to these studios being on the point of bankruptcy while wondering where they went wrong and how their big budget "block buster" is losing to another foreign netflix show
If it helps, a lot of the movies Asians are putting out right now are thematically close to what we had in our prime. Same feel good movie style.
At least with so many of the movies of this era being so shit has gotten me to watch some older classics for the first time. On a side, I just coukdnt get into squid games because it just felt like every "Death game" themed anime but it was just new for a lot of people.
Oh yeah, no. Don't watch that. Popular in America pretty much = bad if you'll forgive my generalizing. Shit, we're on Cinemaphile right? Here.
https://rarelust.com/page/2/
This started out as a vintage porn site, but it's turned into a repository of vintage and little-known (admittedly often for good reason) movies. Duuno if it helps but cheers!
Thanks for the link, was looking for a new movie site
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Hahahahahahaahahahahaha game of thrones was woke as frick in the back half and that was where it got crazy popular. People were mad because Dany didn’t win and usher in her feminist utopia.
Woke has lost all meaning its a shitty buzzword
First Appearance of Mr Fantastic in the MCU and they kill him off to prop up Wanda. Unforgivable.
Look at this from the perspective of the general normie public, not from the perspective of a lifelong comic fan with opinions on which characters are "important".
To the normie, F4 had 2 movies in the 2000s you probably weren't interested in and didn't see, and a bomb reboot in the 2010s you definitely didn't care about seeing. The X-Men had some moderately successful but mostly not blockbuster tier movies in the 2000s and 2010s, and you might have seen some of them, there's a chance you saw none of them, and you'd definitely checked out before the end. You're more likely to have seen the Deadpool spinoff movies than an actual X-Men movie. No amount of nerds online insisting these characters are popular and important is going to make it so with people who didn't really care than much over the last 20 years. Disney need to wait a good long time for people to forget the failures of the later F4 and X-Men movies, and are going to need to cast some big name stars as the draws.
Do you have actual serious expectations of an X-Men movie not being at all political or racial?
Does the general public still have any expectations or goodwill left for the MCU? The quality of their movies since the infinity war saga dropped hard and the D+ series are doing the property no favors by boring people with far too much CW-tier content.
The Inhuman master race wins again!
Even after all these years X-Men is still popular enough to be their ace in the hole after all the shit
Which is why they were such massive hits when they were still releasing alongside the MCU, right?
I mean, First Class, Future Past, Logan and the two Deadpools were released at the same time as MCU movies and they all did well.
Anon said that they were "ace in the holes" despite Ant-Man 2, which was released during the world's largest sporting event, outgrossing Logan. You know, Wolverine? The only X-Man that people allegedly give a shit about? The one whose movies typically did "eh" at best before Logan? All of whom, even Logan, did worse than fricking Thor: Dark World?
Some people are grossly overestimating the X-Men hype, especially since we have historical evidence staring us in the face that audiences generally didn't give as much of a shit when they were still being released.
X-Men properly might not be til Phase 6.
But I bet we'll be seeing some more mutants in Phase 5
NOT WATCHING LOL
Entertainment corporations are more concerned with what 10,000 twitter people might say as opposed to what 10,000,000 people aren't watching.
Cool, frick corporations.
This gives way to independent studios.
Shame Netflix is on the same boat, it would be nice if a big name would finance independent projects with a small budget to see if any them stick. It would be one hell of an era.
They should had made Infinity War a trilogy and focused on delivering as many MCU movies they could shove during that time, then never bring that shit again and moved entirely onto Star Wars.
Now it feels these movies keep lingering way past the point anyone cared for them. I do not understand whose is the audience now.
Disney will continue to have 6-7 of the top 10 grossing films for the next few years. They have a good chance at #1-3 this year, despite Tom.
They are pushing the tween homosexual avengers and pudgy off white 4/10 gurlboss dyke versions of male heroes.
Prove me wrong.
I can't
Smart. Aging out the Avengers characters before introducing the muties.
Imagine if they bring out their own Justice League (Squadron Supreme) while the DCEU is reeling.
It would end up being another Eternals. Unless they managed to cast another RDJ or Evans it would be just another scoop on the pile. The MCU isn't lacking characters, it's lacking good ones, with good and charismatic actors.
Nah, the Eternals crapped out because they chose a poor director (for the material) and tried to do too much story dump.
We already know all the multiverse/timeline crap.
Once they age out like the current Avengers, there's not gonna be much left so it's probably wise to just turn into the X-Men universe at that point.
Phase 6 Disney will not even exist if they keep these politics.
Disney will almost certainly have at least 4 movies towards the top 5 this year. You are purely delusional.
I will never care about marvelshit when it's not X-men. Just to let you know.
I did not watch The Avengers movies.
The Spiderman movies don't look interesting to me.
I only watched Guardians of The Galaxy 1 (it was okay).
I was dragged to see Thor: Ragnorak and Captain Marvel, I was unimpressed by the latter and the former was ok but I wouldn't watch again.
If you're not doing X-Men I don't care.
Just to let you know.
>Anon is really obsessed with his gay- or race- metaphors and doesn't really care for superheroes in general.
I feel sad for you, but thanks for sharing.
I like Batman
I like Spider-Man(‘s games because those are the only ones doing something)
I like X-men
I don’t care about the avengers and I never will. Call me when you feel like taking them out of Ike Perlmutter’s vault.
>X-Men arrive right when people jump ship
>it bombs
>puts the franchise into hibernation mode
That's okay, I haven't seen any Marvel movies since X-2 and I won't see this one either. I won't even watch them for free.
>any Marvel movies since X-2
None of the X-movies were Marvel movies.
There just gonna make it wolverine and friends again
I think Cyclops should have a bigger role, Jean Grey sucks tbh.
watch it be onslaught, then they do heroes reborn and separate the mutants and avengers again
a capitalist corporation like the mouse isn't going to try to raise a line of super heroes that's a criticism of social darwinism or has characters like beast that are politically subversive. at best they'll keep pushing logan and cyclops because generic white guy shit and only take risks with changing ethnicities of lesser known characters despite the fact that there is already diversity in the mutant community.
they don't give two shits about diversity, otherwise there'd be x-men movies with just x-women like Storm, Dr. Cecilia Reyes, Jubilee, M, Danielle Moonstar, Karma, and Shard. lines about "girl power" wouldn't even be necessary, but the mouse is a coward
How are they going to rationalize mutant hatred?
Probably by pointing towards Magneto, or any time Scott lost his glasses and killed dozens. Fricker doesn't even keep those things on a lanyard.
It isn't rational
introducing x-men through their own universe merging with the canon mcu one during secret wars and thereafter is the only way to go. The whole mutandom actuallly having been around in main mcu but hidden, like the eternals is absurd.
who cares about X-Men when Prof X, THE biggest psychic couldn't win against Wanda in his own mindscape?
When has Prof. X won in a mindscape battle?
Yes, that could be a problem when they introduce him in the MCU, anyhow.
You guys are moronic
>plan to recast the of avengers like evans and rdj in ten years as a heroes reborn event
>have x-men appear at the same time so they can have the x-men and avenges play off each other
But please keep being moronic
It would be funny if when they finally do make an X-men movie that it's dogshit and everybody hates it
I just seen Xavier though you dumb moronic dummy
Oh yeah I forgot I also watched The Hulk once.
It was average, haven’t watched it since.