Atheist birthrates are increasing and Christian birthrates are declining. In just a couple years, atheists will be having children at a higher rate than Christians.
Europe is importing Muslims because their countries are controlled by israelites. israelites know that every Muslim that moves to Europe is one less Muslim that poses a direct threat to Israel, so they've forced European countries to take the Muslims in. israelites rule Europe because back in the middle ages, Christians gave them the exclusive privilege to lend money, which resulted in them becoming very rich and powerful.
4 months ago
Anonymous
Those israelites are fellow based atheists, culture and tradition were just illusions created by us monkeys with godcomplexes on a spinning rock and its more important we make McDonalds cost less instead.
4 months ago
Anonymous
Why aren't Christians starting any crusades against the israelites/satanists/Muslims destroying western civilization when you literally have God's grace to smite evil?
4 months ago
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Atheists are free from the shackles of good and evil, why aren't they doing what they please and overthrowing all those who threaten their one chance at living their short lives to the fullest while they can?
4 months ago
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>le chantard edgelord turned christcuck solely for the sake of out-contrarianing other chantard contrarians >doesn't actually believe the shit he says, just has a personality disorder
Just shut the frick up already
4 months ago
Anonymous
Sounds like we're birds of a feather if you're correct about me
4 months ago
Anonymous
So no answer? I guess my point is what virtue are you upholding to spite the atheist nihilists when your faith amounts to nothing practical irl?
4 months ago
Anonymous
It sounded like to me you were asking me to go out and kill people at random
4 months ago
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>crusade >random killing
Nah, you know what I mean, coward.
4 months ago
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>coward
It's sounds like you're doing something I'm not when you say this
4 months ago
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We both most likely share the same cause regardless of our faith, and all we can do now is be patient and wait for the best time to strike some of the most powerful people on our planet. I feel like we'll know it when our time comes.
4 months ago
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>2 more weeks, trust the plan!
The White race is done...
4 months ago
Anonymous
Jews are white, free Palestine from the imperialists 🙂
Yet a single scene from a 10 minute cartoon causes you homosexuals to seethe royally.
It's just like you homosexuals crying over "Normal words but a horse guy!" all over again.
The "secular" modern world view is an anti-natal deathcult. Fake Christianity in the west is dying. Liberal congregations are becoming ghost towns, and good riddance to false doctrine. Africa is becoming more and more Christian all the time. Muslims keep having visions of Jesus and converting. Christianity has suffered for 2000 years and only grows stronger every day.
Pretty much all religions that believe in a transcendental existence also believe in a direct causation between its rewards or punishments and the deeds done in this current life.
"I have noticed that in spite of religion, the conviction as to one's own immortality is extraordinarily rare. israelites, Christians, and Muslims all profess belief in immortality, but the veneration paid to the first century of life is proof that they truly believe only in those hundred years, for they destine all the rest, throughout eternity, to rewarding or punishing what one did when alive."
Right up until they're forced to defend the indefensible like a "kind & loving" God who also gives babies horrifying painful terminal diseases, at which point suddenly they all get to go to heaven despite having no deeds to speak of.
Good and evil cannot exist separately, the same way light and dark or hot and cold can't exist separately. Additionally, good and evil cannot exist without free will. When God granted free will to humanity, he automatically also created good and evil.
4 months ago
Anonymous
Why he do that if babies can be born very sick and only suffer until they die?
4 months ago
Anonymous
How can babies dying be considered a bad thing outside of a sense of morality which is given from God?
4 months ago
Anonymous
Empathy can exist outside your made up morality. I know godgays like to think everyone including them is raging psychos only kept down by fear or great Choo-Choo but like 95% fo people are not that.
4 months ago
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Empathy is the #1 trait for a torturer to have.
4 months ago
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Why is "empathy is good" not a moral statement?
4 months ago
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A person being empathetic makes them a good person or a bad person? >I know godgays like to think everyone including them is raging psychos only kept down by fear or great Choo-Choo but like 95% fo people are not that.
Morality isn't bound to religion or theism but it is bound by the existence of free will, and therefore, the existence of God.
4 months ago
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>Thinks god isn't real but morality is also objective and his specific version of it that was handed to him by twitter users is
Oh man I sure do hope you're not over the age of 18 yet because that would be embarrassing
4 months ago
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>god made good and bad thing so you only know if thing bad because god because then there would be no thing to be bad
You are sending them to god and eternal paradise. If they fear death, that means they do not actually believe in Heaven and therefore they are not Christian.
I've always wondered this too.
Isn't abortion merciful because it guarantees a soul a spot in heaven?
If you believe in heaven and hell, couldn't you make the argument that killing babies/children is actually merciful because you're guaranteeing that person goes to heaven? We're talking an ETERNITY of joy or an ETERNITY of pain. A child not being able to enjoy live on this earth for 70-80 years is indescribably insignificant compared to eternity.
You can acknowledge that life is gay but still make an attempt to enjoy it because what else can you do. What was this scene even trying to say? Walk around with a big wienersucking grin all the time or kys?
>still make an attempt to enjoy it because what else can you do.
There's no difference in pursuing life enjoyment or living in a barrel and jerk off in public daily
Brainless sheep that worship invisible women in the sky to grant them little magical wishes and listen to the things they ask for love operating entirely on strawman arguments to fuel their moronation. We have ridiculous amounts of evidence that their religions of peace were all built off inciting wars and gruesome murders against people that simply did not believe in the same things as them. There's books upon books of documentation of the highest levels in their religion of great morality and peace was designed to milk as much money as possible from its blind followers, appoint popes as kings of the world, and changes what is and isn't right every 5 years.
Current year theists are an even bigger joke than the poor dirt eaters in the dark ages that were paying for slips that claimed to have their sins being washed away, because they really didn't have much of a choice back then, current year christcucks put their money into that little basket free of charge.
>religions of peace were all built off inciting wars and gruesome murders against people that simply did not believe in the same things as them. There's books upon books of documentation of the highest levels in their religion of great morality and peace was designed to milk as much money as possible from its blind followers
And despite all of that, atheists are still a global minority. Why?
You’d think if you and yours were so enlightened, so wise and so on-point you would have converted the masses to your cause. But you haven’t.
in the real world, you’re little more than a drop of nihilism amidst a sea of spirituality
>atheist = nihilist >trying to claim centuries upon centuries of brainwashing can change overnight or new ways of thinking have no merit
You're so fricking dumb
>N-no my pitch isn’t shit! It’s good! I just haven’t had enough time to sell it! >I’ve only had since the Enlightenment and the the secularization of Europe to spread the good word of God-not-real-ism! YOU CANT EXPECT US TO UNDO ALL THAT B-BRAINWASHING IN JUST A FEW HUNDRED YEARS !1!!1
>And despite all of that, atheists are still a global minority. Why?
"love operating entirely on strawman arguments to fuel their moronation"
I already covered that for you!
>inciting wars and gruesome murders against people that simply did not believe in the same things as them
The south didn't believe Black folk should be out in the open around them and Israel simply doesn't believe that their country belongs to Muslims. What's the cope for how those wars aren't what you just described?
Nihilism is LITERALLY the belief that nothing has value. Suicide is simply a logical, albeit extreme, step from basic premise. There's a reason why so many nihilist intellectuals committed suicide in the 19th and 20th centuries. the Nietzschian interpretation that nihilism is "admitting that nothing has intrinsic value except for that which you create" is just a cope used for pseudo-nihilists that don't want to admit that they're breaking the main tenet of nihilism.
>not being able to understand such a moronic ideology
Nothing matters in the grand scheme of things, that doesn't mean you can't care about something personally while acknowledging it won't truly matter at the same time.
If you care about something it means that it has value. If you admit that something has value then you're going against nihilism. A true nihilist doesn't actually exist because you can't exist in a world without a set of values, regardless if they emerge from consciousness or if they're exclusively based on biological instincts (ie. the inherent instinct of survival). Even nihilists that commit suicide still value oblivion over existence.
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>they're breaking the main tenet of nihilism
nothing matters BUT BUT YOU NEED TO FOLLOW THE TENETS REEEE
>not being able to understand such a moronic ideology
Nothing matters in the grand scheme of things, that doesn't mean you can't care about something personally while acknowledging it won't truly matter at the same time.
Nihilism - making a universal truth claim that there are no universal truths.
>not being able to understand such a moronic ideology
Nothing matters in the grand scheme of things, that doesn't mean you can't care about something personally while acknowledging it won't truly matter at the same time.
So...if you profess to be a nihilist while saying you find something meaningful, you're either a hypocrite or lying to yourself. This is why no one takes nihilism seriously, because it's incoherent nonsense.
>"There's no meaning to life! I choose what's meaningful!" >Why would what you choose to be meaningful be inherently meaningful if nothing has meaning?
Materialists don't actually think about what they're saying.
>you're not a real nihilist if you wouldn't let someone cut your legs off because then you think your legs have value
Are you people really this stupid?
>We need to eat the rich! All rich people are bastards! Ontologically evil!!! >But anyway thanks for donating to me instead of anyone in need bro, I'll put it somewhere in my mansion along with all of the money I'm hoarding to myself >Communism will happen any day now comrade. You can have all of my money when that happens (snickers under breathe)
I don't get why a sky daddy is necessary. Christianity, at community level did teach good morals and integration, that's fine and useful. I think nowadays it's a bit of an us vs them with newfound believers coping, whereas churchbashers just hate things.
NOOOOOOO!!!! You can't enjoy things if you don't believe in Sky Daddy because... YOU JUST CAN'T OK!!!!!
I get the majority of religious posters here are Christian, but every single religion has a God or multiple Gods. Why do you focus of Christianity so much?
Because you state that “all religion is fake and bad” but only list shit related to Christianity
If your argument was instead something like “Christianity is a false religion”, your arguments would have more weight.
But you paint all non-atheistic-viewpoints with the same “fake and gay bullshit” brush, with only your western-centric biases to back up the claim
what's your point? that because I don't believe in christian god, but don't know much about anywhere else, I can't feel it's all bullshit elsewhere anyway?
You can’t disprove reincarnation because you don’t believe in heaven or hell
You can’t disprove there being a collection of deities just because you don’t believe in the Judeo-Christian mega-deity
Your “feeling” that all religion is nonsense isn’t based on anything. Other than your animosity towards a single outlet of spirituality.
4 months ago
Anonymous
ok, that's fine that I can't and I don't want to indulge you in this discussion.
4 months ago
Anonymous
>you have to believe in A, to believe in B
okay but A makes zero sense, so im okay with saying B makes zero sense.
4 months ago
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>You have to believe in one thing to believe another
Not what I was saying, at all. Where the hell did you get that from? >I believe A makes no sense, so B must make no sense
Why? Where is your logic coming from?
Again, you’re just using your arguments against one (1, singular, uno) religion as proof that ALL religions are fake.
You don’t believe in the Christian God because a priest betrayed you or something bad happened in your life? How does that in any way prove Vishnu or some other non-Abrahamic deity isn’t real? If you think the ideas of heaven and hell were invented by priests to manipulate people, how does that in any way translate into the idea of souls in general being fake or that souls can be reborn into the world?
A =/= B.
The burden of proof is on you to show how A meaning one thing has any bearing on the meaning of B.
Otherwise, you have literally nothing to back up your statement that “all gods, all heavens, all hells and all souls aren’t real. When you die you go nowhere, and earth is just a meaningless random planet”
4 months ago
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>Again, you’re just using your arguments against one (1, singular, uno) religion as proof that ALL religions are fake.
thats fair. i generally apply this to "god can do anything" religions. its possible theres "god can only do some things" religions, but those are actually realistic
4 months ago
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oh, and a god who cant do god things, isnt a god, which is why those latter ones are realistic
>You believe in nothing but enjoy life
This is a self-contradiction. You have to believe in pleasure to enjoy. Enjoyment doesn't necessitate theism but it does preclude nihilism.
A playful smile danced upon my lips when I first saw this scene. I nodded, knowingly, considering that somewhere an atheist's body had run hot and his lips unfastened into a gasp: "wha-" A laugh. Still bent out of shape are we?
>wah wah wah life sucks and is nothing but pain and suffering and no one should have children >but I like it enough to stay here
No way gay. All nihilist morons, make the world better by offing yourself today.
bit of a strawman here, the issue is when redditor types insists "nothing matters" or "we're an insignificant speck". Instinctively they care about things and act like their lives are significant because of course they do - however they live in a double-think state where they say and advocate for nihilism which destroys society
Nihilism and moral relativism disproven as concepts by this epic youtuber cartoon my surrogate friends made.
Discovering your own meaning in life is impossible without the guidance of Catholicism according to these guys who make a living calling the Nostalgia Critic moronic while they play Donkey Kong 64.
The point is that he claims that nothing matters but at the same time he clearly does think certain things matter. It doesn't even really have anything to do with religion, he's just a hypocrite like all pure nihilists. Nihilism is supposed to be a starting point for developing a better and larger understanding on purpose, it's extremely popular among underage teenagers and is called babies first philosophical view for a reason.
I am a brainlet but I feel like all this discussion over meaning of life and if life is good is obviously pointless.
We evaluate if something is good or not if there are alternatives. There is no alternative to life. This is all there is. Nonexistence is not an alternative because it's a state you can't perceive. The pleasure and happiness you feel is a mechanism you evolved because it keeps you living longer and reproducing and is tied to your biological body. It's not good in itself. There are no souls floating around desperate for a body to experience happiness. Nobody is done a favor by being born.
What is heaven even supposed to be like? I mean if it's just a haze of pure joy and happiness isn't that kind of like being on drugs 24/7 for eternity?
You will be in the constant presence of the God of all creation. Imagine standing in an art gallery with the painter who created every majestic forest or beautiful sunset or cool nebula that ever was or will be. You can't help but go "wow, OH WOW" for eternity. If that sounds bad to you, then maybe you don't belong there.
How do you even gather data for this unless someone literally writes "I RENOUNCE GOD" on the wall before they hang themselves? That aside, why aren't you a Muslim?
by asking people who know the person closely, idk, and it can even be registered on some places, my therapist asked whats my religion when we started the sessions
well you are assuming that they are complete morons when it comes to gathering data
look, there is an article i found that basically says what pricel said, its a meta analysis, you can check their methods for yourself
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7310534/
>the philosophy of nihilism is that objective morality doesn't exist and so you're responsible to live according to your own will >well why scratch a mosquito bite if nothing matters, GAYtheist? xD
Givng the 3rd world the internet has literally created hell. What a nightmare.
>Nihilists can't even figure out why they should scratch a bugbite
What a weak ideology, no wonder your history just exists as a parasite on better cultures
>the philosophy of nihilism is that objective morality doesn't exist and so you're responsible to live according to your own will
That's nietzschianism not nihilism you blubbering moron.
You read too much into it.
Its a cartoon for fricks sake
Rick's shown he doesn't care about dying multiple times
>r*ddit gaytheists are still seething at this
based
Christcuckery is dying.
You lost.
two more weeks lil buddy
>Christcuckery is dying.
>no u!
gaytheists don't reproduce
Atheist birthrates are increasing and Christian birthrates are declining. In just a couple years, atheists will be having children at a higher rate than Christians.
Is that why Europe, the most atheistic continent on the planet, is importing muslims by the boatfull?
Europe is importing Muslims because their countries are controlled by israelites. israelites know that every Muslim that moves to Europe is one less Muslim that poses a direct threat to Israel, so they've forced European countries to take the Muslims in. israelites rule Europe because back in the middle ages, Christians gave them the exclusive privilege to lend money, which resulted in them becoming very rich and powerful.
Those israelites are fellow based atheists, culture and tradition were just illusions created by us monkeys with godcomplexes on a spinning rock and its more important we make McDonalds cost less instead.
Why aren't Christians starting any crusades against the israelites/satanists/Muslims destroying western civilization when you literally have God's grace to smite evil?
Atheists are free from the shackles of good and evil, why aren't they doing what they please and overthrowing all those who threaten their one chance at living their short lives to the fullest while they can?
>le chantard edgelord turned christcuck solely for the sake of out-contrarianing other chantard contrarians
>doesn't actually believe the shit he says, just has a personality disorder
Just shut the frick up already
Sounds like we're birds of a feather if you're correct about me
So no answer? I guess my point is what virtue are you upholding to spite the atheist nihilists when your faith amounts to nothing practical irl?
It sounded like to me you were asking me to go out and kill people at random
>crusade
>random killing
Nah, you know what I mean, coward.
>coward
It's sounds like you're doing something I'm not when you say this
We both most likely share the same cause regardless of our faith, and all we can do now is be patient and wait for the best time to strike some of the most powerful people on our planet. I feel like we'll know it when our time comes.
>2 more weeks, trust the plan!
The White race is done...
Jews are white, free Palestine from the imperialists 🙂
Yet a single scene from a 10 minute cartoon causes you homosexuals to seethe royally.
It's just like you homosexuals crying over "Normal words but a horse guy!" all over again.
The "secular" modern world view is an anti-natal deathcult. Fake Christianity in the west is dying. Liberal congregations are becoming ghost towns, and good riddance to false doctrine. Africa is becoming more and more Christian all the time. Muslims keep having visions of Jesus and converting. Christianity has suffered for 2000 years and only grows stronger every day.
>cope
>Africa is becoming more and more Christian all the time. Muslims keep having visions of Jesus and converting.
Now THIS is redpilled
Unironically cope and seethe.
Notice there isn't a single actual attempt to refute this lel
dibs bedora
You don't have to he a theist to disagree with nihilism
How can cou believe in nothing and enjoy life?
>Mom, I posted the non sequitur again
I just enjoy life.
Reported.
your emotion is made up
This kills the materialistic atheist
well, it would if they could read
this has literally never been refuted - the peak of philosophy
>[] Fight
>[x] Perish like a dog
Now what?
You die like an honest (but stupid) materialist.
>The virgin blackpill nihilist vs the chad agnostic philosopher
>you claim that this life is only temporary and that a better life awaits you?
>and yet you're afraid to die! curious indeed
I will not neglect my duty.
You don't have one and this isn't a counter-argument for fearing death, you moron
Pretty much all religions that believe in a transcendental existence also believe in a direct causation between its rewards or punishments and the deeds done in this current life.
"I have noticed that in spite of religion, the conviction as to one's own immortality is extraordinarily rare. israelites, Christians, and Muslims all profess belief in immortality, but the veneration paid to the first century of life is proof that they truly believe only in those hundred years, for they destine all the rest, throughout eternity, to rewarding or punishing what one did when alive."
Right up until they're forced to defend the indefensible like a "kind & loving" God who also gives babies horrifying painful terminal diseases, at which point suddenly they all get to go to heaven despite having no deeds to speak of.
>if God good why bad thing happen
Atheists are almost as dumb as nihilists, jesus christ
please don't pick on the atheishits they have so little
Most atheists on this site are underage and you can only explain the concept of theodicy to dumb 16-year-olds so many times before it gets tiring.
So you dont know why bad thing happen if god good
Good and evil cannot exist separately, the same way light and dark or hot and cold can't exist separately. Additionally, good and evil cannot exist without free will. When God granted free will to humanity, he automatically also created good and evil.
Why he do that if babies can be born very sick and only suffer until they die?
How can babies dying be considered a bad thing outside of a sense of morality which is given from God?
Empathy can exist outside your made up morality. I know godgays like to think everyone including them is raging psychos only kept down by fear or great Choo-Choo but like 95% fo people are not that.
Empathy is the #1 trait for a torturer to have.
Why is "empathy is good" not a moral statement?
A person being empathetic makes them a good person or a bad person?
>I know godgays like to think everyone including them is raging psychos only kept down by fear or great Choo-Choo but like 95% fo people are not that.
Morality isn't bound to religion or theism but it is bound by the existence of free will, and therefore, the existence of God.
>Thinks god isn't real but morality is also objective and his specific version of it that was handed to him by twitter users is
Oh man I sure do hope you're not over the age of 18 yet because that would be embarrassing
>god made good and bad thing so you only know if thing bad because god because then there would be no thing to be bad
Yes?
>Atheists are almost as dumb as nihilists, jesus christ
So god not good then. You refute yourself and your god.
>2 hours later and no reply
yeah im thinking this post is right
This is why you can't "Murder" Christians.
You are sending them to god and eternal paradise. If they fear death, that means they do not actually believe in Heaven and therefore they are not Christian.
abortion doctors are the most saintly of all people because they send so many babies to heaven before they have a chance to sin.
they aren't baptized so they go to purgatory
I've always wondered this too.
Isn't abortion merciful because it guarantees a soul a spot in heaven?
If you believe in heaven and hell, couldn't you make the argument that killing babies/children is actually merciful because you're guaranteeing that person goes to heaven? We're talking an ETERNITY of joy or an ETERNITY of pain. A child not being able to enjoy live on this earth for 70-80 years is indescribably insignificant compared to eternity.
No you scumfrick mongrel moron. Murder is bad.
do you think you just invented the idea of martyrdom
Atheists are VERY smart
Also they totally look good in fedoras, graphic tees, and cargo shorts
Yeah it's all a cope
You can acknowledge that life is gay but still make an attempt to enjoy it because what else can you do. What was this scene even trying to say? Walk around with a big wienersucking grin all the time or kys?
The creators are Christcucks and think it's a gotcha
>because what else can you do
Suicide.
>still make an attempt to enjoy it because what else can you do.
There's no difference in pursuing life enjoyment or living in a barrel and jerk off in public daily
>Walk around with a big wienersucking grin all the time or kys?
That's a pretty good message honestly
>yet you enjoy life
That character clearly wasn't enjoying life.
Brainless sheep that worship invisible women in the sky to grant them little magical wishes and listen to the things they ask for love operating entirely on strawman arguments to fuel their moronation. We have ridiculous amounts of evidence that their religions of peace were all built off inciting wars and gruesome murders against people that simply did not believe in the same things as them. There's books upon books of documentation of the highest levels in their religion of great morality and peace was designed to milk as much money as possible from its blind followers, appoint popes as kings of the world, and changes what is and isn't right every 5 years.
Current year theists are an even bigger joke than the poor dirt eaters in the dark ages that were paying for slips that claimed to have their sins being washed away, because they really didn't have much of a choice back then, current year christcucks put their money into that little basket free of charge.
The biggest genocides in the 20th century were committed by openly atheistic ideologies.
>religions of peace were all built off inciting wars and gruesome murders against people that simply did not believe in the same things as them. There's books upon books of documentation of the highest levels in their religion of great morality and peace was designed to milk as much money as possible from its blind followers
And despite all of that, atheists are still a global minority. Why?
You’d think if you and yours were so enlightened, so wise and so on-point you would have converted the masses to your cause. But you haven’t.
in the real world, you’re little more than a drop of nihilism amidst a sea of spirituality
>atheist = nihilist
>trying to claim centuries upon centuries of brainwashing can change overnight or new ways of thinking have no merit
You're so fricking dumb
Not all atheists are nihilists, but all nihilists are atheists. If you're being honest about nihilism and it's worldview, you literally have to be.
>N-no my pitch isn’t shit! It’s good! I just haven’t had enough time to sell it!
>I’ve only had since the Enlightenment and the the secularization of Europe to spread the good word of God-not-real-ism! YOU CANT EXPECT US TO UNDO ALL THAT B-BRAINWASHING IN JUST A FEW HUNDRED YEARS !1!!1
>if you're so smart, why is everyone else so dumb?
>And despite all of that, atheists are still a global minority. Why?
"love operating entirely on strawman arguments to fuel their moronation"
I already covered that for you!
>inciting wars and gruesome murders against people that simply did not believe in the same things as them
The south didn't believe Black folk should be out in the open around them and Israel simply doesn't believe that their country belongs to Muslims. What's the cope for how those wars aren't what you just described?
>If you dont believe in god you shouldn't be afraid of death GOTCHYA!
By their own ideology it shouldn't matter what they are afraid of.
The Frowning Friends were nihilists, dumdum.
>but you are a nihilist so you shouldn't care about being harmed hurrrrr
imagine being this chudtarded
Yes? Nihilism professes that nothing matters. Therefore, one's own life also doesn't matter.
you have never learned about nihilism. Everything you know about it you got from The Big Lebowski like an NPC
Nihilism is LITERALLY the belief that nothing has value. Suicide is simply a logical, albeit extreme, step from basic premise. There's a reason why so many nihilist intellectuals committed suicide in the 19th and 20th centuries. the Nietzschian interpretation that nihilism is "admitting that nothing has intrinsic value except for that which you create" is just a cope used for pseudo-nihilists that don't want to admit that they're breaking the main tenet of nihilism.
If you care about something it means that it has value. If you admit that something has value then you're going against nihilism. A true nihilist doesn't actually exist because you can't exist in a world without a set of values, regardless if they emerge from consciousness or if they're exclusively based on biological instincts (ie. the inherent instinct of survival). Even nihilists that commit suicide still value oblivion over existence.
>they're breaking the main tenet of nihilism
nothing matters BUT BUT YOU NEED TO FOLLOW THE TENETS REEEE
>not being able to understand such a moronic ideology
Nothing matters in the grand scheme of things, that doesn't mean you can't care about something personally while acknowledging it won't truly matter at the same time.
Nihilism - making a universal truth claim that there are no universal truths.
So...if you profess to be a nihilist while saying you find something meaningful, you're either a hypocrite or lying to yourself. This is why no one takes nihilism seriously, because it's incoherent nonsense.
>moralizing adult animation
🙁
>moralizing adult animation but from my virtual YouTube friends
:O
>"There's no meaning to life! I choose what's meaningful!"
>Why would what you choose to be meaningful be inherently meaningful if nothing has meaning?
Materialists don't actually think about what they're saying.
>you enjoy life
I thought 'life' was nothing.
>you're not a real nihilist if you wouldn't let someone cut your legs off because then you think your legs have value
Are you people really this stupid?
its the same chud logic of you can't criticize capitalism unless you give everything away and become homeless
its mentally moronic thinking
>We need to eat the rich! All rich people are bastards! Ontologically evil!!!
>But anyway thanks for donating to me instead of anyone in need bro, I'll put it somewhere in my mansion along with all of the money I'm hoarding to myself
>Communism will happen any day now comrade. You can have all of my money when that happens (snickers under breathe)
Why would legs be valuable to a nihilist?
Why do you have a single digit IQ?
Where's the argument?
>say something moronic for the tenth time ITT and expect people to argue with you
And yet no one has refuted what I said, which goes to show how stupidly juvenile nihilism is.
>hurrrr i ignored posts explaining why and just kept saying "no true nihilist!" so i'm right
Single digit IQ
>posts "explaining" nihilism are just "well akshually nihilism is when thing don't matter except on the occasions where it matter"
Right here
*Grabs package*
I don't get why a sky daddy is necessary. Christianity, at community level did teach good morals and integration, that's fine and useful. I think nowadays it's a bit of an us vs them with newfound believers coping, whereas churchbashers just hate things.
I get the majority of religious posters here are Christian, but every single religion has a God or multiple Gods. Why do you focus of Christianity so much?
Because I lived in a Christian culture all my life? The frick do I know about buddhists or islam
Because you state that “all religion is fake and bad” but only list shit related to Christianity
If your argument was instead something like “Christianity is a false religion”, your arguments would have more weight.
But you paint all non-atheistic-viewpoints with the same “fake and gay bullshit” brush, with only your western-centric biases to back up the claim
what's your point? that because I don't believe in christian god, but don't know much about anywhere else, I can't feel it's all bullshit elsewhere anyway?
You can’t disprove reincarnation because you don’t believe in heaven or hell
You can’t disprove there being a collection of deities just because you don’t believe in the Judeo-Christian mega-deity
Your “feeling” that all religion is nonsense isn’t based on anything. Other than your animosity towards a single outlet of spirituality.
ok, that's fine that I can't and I don't want to indulge you in this discussion.
>you have to believe in A, to believe in B
okay but A makes zero sense, so im okay with saying B makes zero sense.
>You have to believe in one thing to believe another
Not what I was saying, at all. Where the hell did you get that from?
>I believe A makes no sense, so B must make no sense
Why? Where is your logic coming from?
Again, you’re just using your arguments against one (1, singular, uno) religion as proof that ALL religions are fake.
You don’t believe in the Christian God because a priest betrayed you or something bad happened in your life? How does that in any way prove Vishnu or some other non-Abrahamic deity isn’t real? If you think the ideas of heaven and hell were invented by priests to manipulate people, how does that in any way translate into the idea of souls in general being fake or that souls can be reborn into the world?
A =/= B.
The burden of proof is on you to show how A meaning one thing has any bearing on the meaning of B.
Otherwise, you have literally nothing to back up your statement that “all gods, all heavens, all hells and all souls aren’t real. When you die you go nowhere, and earth is just a meaningless random planet”
>Again, you’re just using your arguments against one (1, singular, uno) religion as proof that ALL religions are fake.
thats fair. i generally apply this to "god can do anything" religions. its possible theres "god can only do some things" religions, but those are actually realistic
oh, and a god who cant do god things, isnt a god, which is why those latter ones are realistic
You answered your own question moron
Nihilism is the most useless ideology. It is the biggest waste of time.
you don't get to be my moral giver
NOOOOOOO!!!! You can't enjoy things if you don't believe in Sky Daddy because... YOU JUST CAN'T OK!!!!!
Relax dude, he was just gonna shoot him in the head and kill him.
Narcissistic nihilists deserve the rope
A cancer on the body of society
>Narcissistic deserve the rope
>You believe in nothing but enjoy life
This is a self-contradiction. You have to believe in pleasure to enjoy. Enjoyment doesn't necessitate theism but it does preclude nihilism.
A playful smile danced upon my lips when I first saw this scene. I nodded, knowingly, considering that somewhere an atheist's body had run hot and his lips unfastened into a gasp: "wha-" A laugh. Still bent out of shape are we?
>wah wah wah life sucks and is nothing but pain and suffering and no one should have children
>but I like it enough to stay here
No way gay. All nihilist morons, make the world better by offing yourself today.
I can understand simply being secular, but if you're still anti-theistic past your teens, then you're just stunted.
>hehe me go heaven you go hell
>well frick you too
>haha you stunted
>people still give attention to this thinly veiled Reddit humor garbage
You Black folk are so easy to please its embarrassing.
bit of a strawman here, the issue is when redditor types insists "nothing matters" or "we're an insignificant speck". Instinctively they care about things and act like their lives are significant because of course they do - however they live in a double-think state where they say and advocate for nihilism which destroys society
Nihilism and moral relativism disproven as concepts by this epic youtuber cartoon my surrogate friends made.
Discovering your own meaning in life is impossible without the guidance of Catholicism according to these guys who make a living calling the Nostalgia Critic moronic while they play Donkey Kong 64.
>Discovering your own meaning in life
That's not what nihilism is.
Yeah, they're not exactly the sharpest tools in the shed
You admit you are hedonist and are spiritual scum. Nice self own.
Yes, if we're just atoms and nothing matter why do you flip out if I say something that actually doesn't matter like "Black person"?
The point is that he claims that nothing matters but at the same time he clearly does think certain things matter. It doesn't even really have anything to do with religion, he's just a hypocrite like all pure nihilists. Nihilism is supposed to be a starting point for developing a better and larger understanding on purpose, it's extremely popular among underage teenagers and is called babies first philosophical view for a reason.
Lotta hat tipping itt
But he didn't enjoy life, or at least that was he preaching about.Did you even watch the show?
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I am a brainlet but I feel like all this discussion over meaning of life and if life is good is obviously pointless.
We evaluate if something is good or not if there are alternatives. There is no alternative to life. This is all there is. Nonexistence is not an alternative because it's a state you can't perceive. The pleasure and happiness you feel is a mechanism you evolved because it keeps you living longer and reproducing and is tied to your biological body. It's not good in itself. There are no souls floating around desperate for a body to experience happiness. Nobody is done a favor by being born.
What is heaven even supposed to be like? I mean if it's just a haze of pure joy and happiness isn't that kind of like being on drugs 24/7 for eternity?
You will be in the constant presence of the God of all creation. Imagine standing in an art gallery with the painter who created every majestic forest or beautiful sunset or cool nebula that ever was or will be. You can't help but go "wow, OH WOW" for eternity. If that sounds bad to you, then maybe you don't belong there.
For eternity that sounds pretty tedious.
>THEN BURN REEEEEEEEEEEE
Creation isn't finished. Maybe it never will be. How can you already be tired of the infinite?
>I know cancer, tsunamis, earthquakes, and other natural disasters exist but dude look at this pretty landscape lol
Natural "disasters" are just natural processes. The world isn't perfect yet and it's not meant to be.
i think this graph is relevant to this argument
How do you even gather data for this unless someone literally writes "I RENOUNCE GOD" on the wall before they hang themselves? That aside, why aren't you a Muslim?
by asking people who know the person closely, idk, and it can even be registered on some places, my therapist asked whats my religion when we started the sessions
>what can you tell us of the deceased faith?
>idk he never really talked about God
>[x]ATHEIST
Doesn't seem very valid.
well you are assuming that they are complete morons when it comes to gathering data
look, there is an article i found that basically says what pricel said, its a meta analysis, you can check their methods for yourself
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7310534/
That wasn't the point of the scene though. Even a nihilist, at the end, believes in something. If nothing truly matters, then why live at all?
>If nothing truly matters, then why live at all?
We are still slaves to our biology in the end. That's why even all the edgy philosophers lead normal lives.
>That's why even all the edgy philosophers lead normal lives
I don't think there's a bigger group of depressed improvised schizos actually
*Impoverished
improvised is fine too
>the philosophy of nihilism is that objective morality doesn't exist and so you're responsible to live according to your own will
>well why scratch a mosquito bite if nothing matters, GAYtheist? xD
Givng the 3rd world the internet has literally created hell. What a nightmare.
>Nihilists can't even figure out why they should scratch a bugbite
What a weak ideology, no wonder your history just exists as a parasite on better cultures
>the philosophy of nihilism is that objective morality doesn't exist and so you're responsible to live according to your own will
That's nietzschianism not nihilism you blubbering moron.
>You will beleive a book, b-because i was groomed as a child too!
We get it, youre scared of the unknown, get a hobby lol
Jerking off to drawings and being ugly isnt a hobby