This character does NOT come back. Not even as a clone. They have been effectively been perma-dead and will only appear in elseworlds or what-ifs. Even for regenerating monsters like Doomsday or Lobo, they are permadead. Whatever happened, it caused them to just cease existing.
Which character do you permanently kill off, and why?
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I’d say Tom Taylor
Hal Jordan so Kyle can finally claim his righteous spot
Jon Kent.
Miles morales. He’s lame in literally everything but Spiderverse and I’m tired of the “he’s just Spider-Man” arguments
This and it would be funny to have people b***hing and crying about racism before introducing Biles Borales a year later
Bendis
Batman. Superman is a tempting target, but a DC comics with Batman as the primary face of it is a worse outcome because it will just encourage dipping back into the dark and edgy trend that fricked up comics for decades. Batman being dead is a more massive status quo shift at this point, both for the characters and for the company/brand.
They'd have to be all subversive about it, we all expect some huge event so they'd probably have him keel over from a huge stroke or jammer out of nowhere in the middle of fighting with Joker, so that he dies in Joker's arms
You can't remove the edge by removing Batman anon.
Killing Batman would just kill DC comics.
>implying the condition it's in is somehow good
See post above for the only way they would allow him to die
I would be perfectly fine with this since Batman's best stories are outside of continuity anyways
>that fricked up comics
It didn't though, you fairy
I rather just delete DC comics.
Kamala Khan
Her creator and creation is a major cause for the rot in Marvel.
Miles Morales.
Joker, and make his death the most boring and uneventful thing possible. The Joker gets shot to death in an alleyway by a random mugger that doesn't even see the Joker's face
The Joker. I'd have Deadshot, Deathstroke or even just a fed-up Two-Face or Ivy do it right in front of Bats so he has to just wake up the next day and live with it.
>Deathstroke straight up shoots The Joker with an anti-plot-armor gun. Where he got it, it doesn't matter, for it too stifled Mistah J's capacity to pun, to even chitter cheerfully.
>A stagger, pooling of blood originating from his chest, then a thud. Gotham would see a million more nights.
>That Dark Knight, he just wasn't fast enough to deflect his shot. Picoseconds later, Deathstroke slipped away, leaving Batman with a diseased corpse, incoming paparazzi, and Commissioner Gordon's endless stream of platitudes.
>"Master Wayne, you seem sullen on this rare occasion."
>Morning hath come, the winged avenger tasseled in a thick robe, thin slippers padding his calloused feet. "It's over.", he thought, again, and again. Many a citizen took arms, toppling any nimrod who had been associated with Joker at some point.
>It was to the point where Harley had to go on the run. So much for her bozos...
>There he sat, drenched in ponderance, Alfred tending to his beady brow. There he sat, with no long-term adversary that wasn't a buzzkill. There, he contemplated; should he shake things up pouncing on foes with newfound japery, or retain Gotham's peace by tailoring to their formative years?
>I'd have Deadshot, Deathstroke or even just a fed-up Two-Face or Ivy do it right in front of Bats so he has to just wake up the next day and live with it.
Nah. Just have some random cop or crook shoot him. He doesn't get to say that the Bat killed him, he doesn't even get to say that another rogue did him in, he gets killed by a complete and utter nobody.
that would be a great joke and the Joker would approve
Seriously speaking.
Aunt May.
She should've died decades ago when having a geriatric aunt die of old age made sense.
gonna start being relevant again soon as Gen Xers and Millenials and soon Zoomers don't have kids until their 40's.
Shit, even the 2018 game had the balls to kill her at the end and it's permanent because no magic BS in that universe.
What you do have against Elric
Kain isn't a comic book character, silly anon.
Deadpool, easily
Wonder Woman
>please kill all the hot girls
Simp
Miles, bar none
Miles. Morales.
All Kryptonians except Kal, Kara, Kon, General Zod, and Faora.
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Jean Grey, always and forever.
Seriously though anyone not saying Miles Morales are just coping homosexuals.
I dont give a frick about spiderman. There isn't a single worthwhile character in Peter's entire sphere. Jean Grey is a black hole that draws in a destroys characters who might be interesting without her around.
I'm not a "coping homosexual" just because I don't give a frick about what Marvel is doing to Spider-Man's corpse these days.
Easy, Batman.
There are a lot of shitty characters that the industry could do without, but removing any one of them won't change anything. Just look at how many morons are seething about Miles Morales in this thread. Removing him wouldn't change any of the factors that cause Marvel to push him, so they'd just prop up some other minority character in his stead.
If you're going to permanently remove a single character, at least make it someone whose removal will have a positive impact in the long-term. For me, that's Batman. Not because I hate the character, but because Batman is emblematic for comic books' refusal to let go of overused, worn-out character concept. And sure they'll just replace him with Nightwing or fricking Damian for all I care, but that's still better than nothing because it sets a precedent for major legacy characters to actually get phased out and replaced instead of eternally overshadowing their successors. Just look at other DC characters like The Flash or Green Lantern. DC is incapable of moving forward and in removing the biggest anchor holding them back, I hope it creates room for other characters to start moving forward as well. In a way, this is also why I don't want to remove a character like Miles. Is he better than Peter? Frick no. But I'd take shitty progress over eternal stagnation, because at least there's a chance that this progress will eventually lead to something worthwhile, instead of Marvel just eternally cucking Peter in order to preserve the status quo and keep him single and miserable. The main issue with modern comics isn't minority characters or wokeness, it's how unbearably stagnant they are, forcing the same old characters and the same old stories to conform to new contexts instead of actually moving their worlds forward in any meaningful way. It's the knowledge that any significant change is always temporary and will always be ruined in the end. Removing Batman won't fix that, but it might be a start.
>Removing him wouldn't change any of the factors that cause Marvel to push him, so they'd just prop up some other minority character in his stead.
Miles was the very catalyst for the affirmative action legacy character pushes.
He was one of the first of the new wave of minority characters, but if it wasn't him it would've been someone else. Miles didn't cause the current cultural zeitgeist nor contribute to it in any meaningful way, and the general audience didn't give a frick about him until they started pushing him again relatively recently.
Miles was absolutely patient zero for the 2010s drive for diversity replacement superheroes, and for Marvel and DC learning every time they did this to a character it would be a massive clickbait publicity stunt that got them in the news.
Maybe if it wasn't Miles it might have started with someone else, maybe it wouldn't have happened at all, but the way things did happen replacing heroes this way became one of Marvel's main business strategies in the Alonso years.
I'd be so on board with the current Titans series if I wasn't absolutely certain the JL would come back to take care of the planet again. If you're not going to pull the trigger, DC, at least give me an Elseworld where the League has retired like the JSA did and let the Titans take over.
Usually I'd turn it down, most characters have at least one fan out there and stuff, it could just depend on a decent writer etc etc...
Frick it, Kid Omega, Daken or Damien.
I kill off the Joker.
Hes not funny anymore.
Was he funny, ever? That's like, his thing. He's called a joker but he's not.
My vote goes with Wonder Woman. Never seen anything remotely good with her aside from some random art.
love that guy's smile
Harley Quinn
Wanda Maximoff. Just fricking get rid of her now entirely because I am scared they bring her back for more cringe.
Miles Morales
Le Society Man
Peter Parker. I want to see Miles try to carry the brand and fail, and just then we'll get rid of spider-shit once and for all
Luke Cage
John Constantine
Namor
Joker
Deathstroke
Harley Quinn
Miles Morales
Morlun and his homosexual family
Tired of seeing all these c**ts
>Morlun
Ooooo that's a good one
>Luke Cage
>not Jessica Jones
Frick you.
Honestly wouldn't care if she got erased either
Mary jane
Paul was worse for Spiderman's character than Miles
Miles Morales.
I want to see Black person kids cry.
i'd pick one of the following:
gambit, he's a rip off of longshot and rogue is more interesting without him
aunt may, should have stayed dead long ago
mary jane, most boring of all spidey love interests
jean grey, sick of her coming back, morrison did her best should have left on a high note
hal jordan, the most boring green lantern only revived cause johns has a boner for him
sabertooth, they keep trying to reform him, and it always sucks just get wolvie a new arch
barry allen, again brought back for stupid reasons wally west best flash
>hal jordan, the most boring green lantern only revived cause johns has a boner for him
Hal and Geoff saved the GLC from certain death.
i submit that all of those stories could have been done with kyle or john as the lead and would have been better
maybe it was a smart marketing move, and johns writes well, but even when hal is the center of everything he's still boring, he's just 1 dementional determined action man with nothing else to him, all other green lanterns are more interesting
They could have, but Hal is simply just based. The other lanterns are fine supporting characters but primarily hipsters or cartoon gays prefer them to be different. Kyle and John have always just been boring
?
what makes you say hal is based?
he's such a nothing character
kyle and john both have shit going on with their lives and emotions, what the frick does hal have?
The very things people shit on Hal for are what make him leading man material for q comic book and the other lanterns are a little too fruity or melodramatic. They're like an attempt to make the franchise "smarter" but in doing so less fun to follow. You can replace Goku with someone that's not a moron who does stupid shit but then it's just not the same and you know deep down it's true
>You can replace Goku with someone that's not a moron who does stupid shit but then it's just not the same and you know deep down it's true
Nah, give Goku's spot during the Buu Saga to Gohan and the story quality would jump ten-fold.
>Nah, give Goku's spot during the Buu Saga to Gohan and the story quality would jump ten-fold.
Midwit take. The Cell Saga is emblematic of the worst issues in Dragon Ball. Awful drama, pacing, non-saiyans becoming totally useless. Buu Saga is classic Toriyama insanity and is entertaining because it shits all over transformations, absorptions, and fusions. All the power-ups, training, etc were completely useless in the end when base form Goku uses a jobber technique with help from Mr. Satan of all buttholes to defeat a much weaker form of Buu. Gohan is my favorite character but he doesn't need to become "serious Goku". He's right where he needs to be as a scholar. That's what makes him truly Goku's son. He autistically dedicated his life to what he wanted to do, regardless if Vegeta or fans think he needed to keep training.
the cell saga was what broke me for dragonball
the pacing as you say was terrible, insulting even
but the only redeeming aspect of the whole drawn out affair was the ending where gohan saves the day, as an emotional climax it almost justified all the bullshit we had to go through to get there
and when they moved forward with teen gohan, i was like, maybe this is worth sticking with it, maybe they'll do something new and interesting, and they did for a little
then goku came back and everything reverted back to the same formula all over again
then i was done, and dragonball lost all light for me
>Awful drama, pacing, non-saiyans becoming totally useless.
The non-saiyans havven't been useful since the Saiyan Saga you moron. Sure the Cell Saga has awful pacing but there is a light at the end of the tunnel. You don't get that with the Buu Saga.
>A light at the end of the tunnel
Does not justify the arc being complete shit. BUH BUH BUT THE SAIYAN SAG-
Is shit, too. Cell Saga exacerbates it's issues. Buu Saga shits all over new forms and power-ups. Gohan getting a random power-up and bakooming Buu with another super Kamehameha would have been dogshit, too. Goku going off to train Uub is a much more interesting and fitting ending for a mystical adventure, not ending with sci-fi Terminator ripoff shit
>Goku going off to train Uub is a much more interesting and fitting ending for a mystical adventure, not ending with sci-fi Terminator ripoff shit
Not even, Goku and Vegeta dying leaving Gohan to train Goten and Trunks would have been better.
The only way to settle this is a match in Tenkaichi. Winner is correct.
moronic arguments aside, play the BT4 fan mod. It's really fun and adds a lot of cool features beyond cringe Super shit
Goon’s reasoning for saying dead was stupid and not noble at all. If anything it makes him look like a coward. This is a guy who loves fighting strong opponents above all else, staying alive and having more people come to earth willing to fight him should make him happy
>b-b-but Goku grew up and matured
Nope, Buu saga says otherwise. Also bold of Goku to assume that just because he’s dead bad guys with a grudge won’t just target his loved ones. The androids still destroyed after he died in the future timeline. Babidi was always going to come to earth. Goin even disregards his reasoning and comes back alive at the end of Buu
*Goku
Frick, I’m typing too fast
this might be an anime hot take, but goku should have stayed dead too
they should have moved forward with gohan imo
>i submit that all of those stories could have been done with kyle or john as the lead and would have been better
It wouldn't have worked. Sinestro? Hal's archnemesis. Parallax? Hal's greatest failure. Black Hand? Some jobber Hal squashed back in the old days. John Stewart would never work in Hal's place because Denny O'Neal and Neil Adams never thought to give him depth past being black, and Kyle's greatest moments involved Parallax Hal. Guy is just there to kick ass regardless.
guy is also more interesting than hal
and sinestro is more interesting than hal
that's the problem, hal himself is nothing, the most interesting thing about him is he is friends and enemies with much more interesting characters
Sinestro is interesting but because of his relationship with Hal you moron. Don't you get it, Hal is the center of the GL universe because it all stems from him.
i get it
i just don't like it
and if some writer was brave enough to move on without hal they could still use the rest of those great characters and make better stories
it would just take some time and a little planning
Horrible reasons for most of these
you really want to see aunt may or jean grey brought back from the dead another dozen times?
No, where did I say that?
were those the two you agreed with then cause you said most
Anyone who doesn't pick a replacement character is a fool.
Tony Stark or Bruce Banner
Storm
storm is a great character, she's just been mishandled the last several years
Shit character hasn’t been good in almost 30 years and the fanbase is violently autistic.
i'd say storm had good stuff up to the early 2,000's
the turning point was around house of m where they made her an african queen and had her intertwined with black panther
that's when she started getting misused
so more like 20 years of bad storm writing
Charles Xavier. They tried to kill him off in the 60s, bringing him back was a key step toward the “death is temporary” horror show of modern comics, so killing him forever would make a statement.
And I genuinely don’t think he adds anything to the franchise. He’s either a saint or doing the “Xavier is an unethical jerk” story yet again, and none of the other X-Men or New Mutants have anything left to learn from him. Take him away and just let the characters live.
This, but kill Magneto too. Morrison was right. This mutant vs human thing was stale 20 years ago.
Peter Parker so Miles becomes the only Spider-Man
The Joker. Easily.
Jason Todd
Jay Nakamura to piss Tom Taylor off.
Uncle Ben.
I JUST WANT TO BE SURE.
>Which character do you permanently kill off, and why?
The merged Brothers because with it ends DC and Marvel. It's the only way.
Do what Death in the Family did and kill off a Robin that makes Bruce second guess the title. Have it be some kid pretending to be Robin and it's so horrific that public opinion about "Robin" always being so young is brought up, along with the role seemingly getting younger over the years. Bruce gets convinced, the Robins try to go against it but he points out they're all working from similar trauma--frick, one even came BACK from the dead. And idk Tim becomes Red Robin, Damien becomes "The Heir" or something. And tie it into Bruce deciding to retire so Damien becomes Batman, causing Dick and Tim to balk about giving titles to younger people.
Kamala Khan
>Superman
He's turned into a boring character, and is a C lister now. He is only propped up because he used to be famous once upon a time.
I'd kill off Mary Jane for good.
This would fix roughly 60% of everything wrong with Spider-Man media, including:
>all the relationship drama she brings into every story featuring her
>Paul
>Felicia getting shafted because of the status quo
>the lingering consequences of OMD (not like Peter can get married to a corpse anyway)
>Peter being an unrelatable character because he's dating a literal supermodel
>Mary Jane being ugly as sin in Spider-Man 2 for the PS5
Everybody still remembers that you're a creepy misogynist, Dan.
Superman because he's been of no value since the early 2000s. His face of DC spot has been taken and he has no good runs since the 80s.
Bruce Wayne, because I’d like dick Batman.
Kitty Pryde. FRICK Bendis and frick his waifu. Could I get a twofer and kill Enma Frost too? Fricking hate her.
I've always had this story idea of Deathstroke doing one last final job to rescue one of his kids then permanently retiring to be family man.
Not really killing him, but he would be written off, permanently.
Of all the characters to chicken out and actually kill, you pick the unrepetent hired killer and child molestor.
I'm going to assume you're Marv Wolfman now. You ruined DC with CoIE you fricking dolt.
I like it because Deathstroke is one of the more human villains and I like the idea of him realizing what's most important is raising his kids.
I mean that was arguably what the end of Priest's series was. He saves his family from an evil(er) version of himself and in the end gets them back and retires with them to suburbia... only to abandon it because he who can't live in peace since he's just a bastard, nothing more.
The Joker. A guy like him should be dead and stay dead. This also has the effect of taking away Batman's crazy ex so he can move on with his life.
Grant Morrison made himself a character in DC, didn't he? kill jester
He was killed as well in suicide squad.
this time it's forever, nae backsies
kill jester
Magik
Always been a terrible character and is the shittiest part of OG New Mutants pre-Simonson (then it's all shitty). Never should have come back and since coming back her entire gimmick is "not-actually-evil coombait" with irritating fans. She adds nothing to any comic she appears in and instead actively detracts due to her annoying personality which is just a half-assed version of Exiles Magik's.
Was is there so much samegayging in this thread? LOL
Someone is posting multiple times. Who the frick is it?
Imagine being this fricking moronic.
And why the frick are Tardkugays here? I thought DC was shit so now you care about capeshit all of a sudden?
No other mangafricks hang out in Cinemaphile as much as Tardkugays. Is this what happens when you get rejected by your own kind.
Whose posting twice? Atleast I’m not such a coward and I let you know who the frick you’re talking too.
>69 posters
>100 posts
>72/73 posters are all the same guy who hallucinates this thread being some diversity-related group chat
I think I know who’s doing it. Sad!
I would kill off Bobby Drake. Reason: he's a homosexual.
Literal who?
Tardkugays got their asses whooped by Sailor Moon and Saitama gays. Now they’re running to Cinemaphile seething. Cowards.
GODkuGODS beat the shit out of sailortards and saitamacucks
Hey LopiBot, this is NOT the DB thread and no one cares about your mandated diversity talks
I'm not the night homosexual, I'm just pointing out his lies
But you don't care that he's not even discussing the relevant topic of this thread
Thread was dead anyways. I brought it back to life.
Told you Tardkubitches infect all DC threads because they got cucked by other Cinemaphile posters. They come here out of rejection LOL SAD.
Personally Phyla -Vell.
To make superhero movies better: Joker
I wonder if this Lopi homosexual has a discord where he forces all the other posters to stay quiet and avoid discussing how characters would realistically be offed
Mr. Immortal..
For the irony.
Bruce. I feel like he's just done and he's always a crutch for an event.
Batman cut off Alfreds payment. He died of cancer.
TardKU b***hES
>They have been effectively been perma-dead and will only appear in elseworlds or what-ifs.
you just mentioned the biggest loophole
>kill off character
>DC promises they'll only be seen in elseworlds from now on
>introducing DC's next banner event: Else-Earth
>nothing but books about that character in an Elseworld where they survived and everything else is identical
>"limited series" runs for five years
>nobody's even buying it, published purely out of spite
Bruce wayne
I entered the thread with the intention of saying Peter Parker to end his suffering but Miles Morales is a much better choice.
The seething would be glorious.
Wolverine not even close
Kamala Khan. She stands out like a sore thumb.
In no particular order:
Magneto, frick the writers and frick the fandom for letting the allegory get so out of hand, but frick them for bending so far backwards they're huffing their own farts to retroactively justify a character that believes in, and acted upon, genocide and racial replacement.
Miles, I'm not even a Spider-Man fan, but he's just kind of there, he's been around for nearly fifteen years but he still doesn't even have his own character or even codename yet. Everything about him is just biting off of the original Spider-Man but adding electricity and a bunch of other bullshit powers to compensate for the lack of anything else.
Deathstroke, after realizing that raising his profile just ended up making people aware of the fact that he fricked jailbait, DC just needs to get that albatross off their back by shooting him into space.
Kamala Khan, I would have been okay with her if she was easily ignorable and they just kept her doing low level things and staying out of the affairs of major going-ons in Marvel, which is a niche characters very rarely get to do nowadays, but as it is, they kept shoving her everywhere and it got really annoying. Even when they turned her into a mutant, they don't keep her on her side of the wall and still try to make her a thing.
Wolverine, he was Kamala Khan and Miles turned up to a million in his heyday yet somehow an even bigger Gary Stu than both, so I just got plain sick of looking at him.
Joker, see above, got sick of seeing him everywhere being a huge Stu. He just sucks the air out of the room when he's around.