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I'm still trying to figure out, what exactly, the writer was trying to say here.
Reducing the Flag Smashers to just terrorists negates the valid points they raised.
But they didn't raise any good points though
immigrants have a right to squat in your houses
They stopped having valid points when they were blowing up buildings and murdering people to get the Super Soldier serum so they could kill people more effectively because they thought things were better with half the world snapped out of existence.
They became terrorists when they started acting like terrorists. Period.
The line was moronic
All of those things doesn't change the underlying causes, and trying to sweep them under the rug will just cause more of them to pop up because the underlying causes aren't addressed.
It's like the US fricking around in the Middle East for the past 50 years and being surprised that Middle East terrorists keep popping up like there isn't an underlying cause beyond "dey hate our freedums." Or Britain overtaxing and overlegislating colonies to pay for continental wars and then being surprised the colonies want independence.
>All of those things doesn't change the underlying causes,
It does actually. Call it a variant on the man covered in shit argument but you lose any points of validity in your argument when you turn to violence. If you want the moral high ground you have to act with the moral high ground.
>you lose any points of validity in your argument when you turn to violence
Good to know.
This anon is crazy for comparing the Boston tea harbor to Marvel slop
>instantly rushes to forfeit all credibility
interesting strategy
>you lose any points of validity in your argument when you turn to violence
America owes its entire existence to violent conquest and violent revolution, in that order. The "argument" comes afterwards. Decades of peace have blinded you to that cold hard fact.
No one is saying to sweep the problems under the rug.
But they were still a terrorist.
If someone kills my family and then I track them down later and kill them, then I'm a murderer.
It doesn't matter if the underlying cause is "we need to prevent people from murdering familes" I still killed someone in cold blood and that makes me, by definition, a murderer and should be called as such.
So she was a terrorist who committed terrorist acts to get her way.
So she should be called a terrorist.
You're under the misguided notion that calling a spade a spade means the whole shouldn't be filled, but that's not the argument.
When you start saying school shooters shouldn't be called school shooters because a teacher didn't listen, then we can talk.
Oh boo hoo, I commit murder when I get displaced by people who literally were erased from existence, woe is me.
The real question is who is worse assuming no one resorted to violence, the people who got displaced or the people who ditched their new lives for the snapped people. I get that the snapped people are the real victims and they deserve some semblance of their old lives, but it sounds like there should've been more poly families trying to make it work instead of "oops, suddenly a bunch of people were left hanging when the greatest tragedy in universe history got reversed without warning."
>It's like the US fricking around in the Middle East for the past 50 years and being surprised that Middle East terrorists keep popping up
Except many of those "fricking around" situations such as funding the mujahideen or Desert Storm was IN DEFENSE of middle east countries not fricking attacking them.
This show was weird for trying desperately to force the viewer to side with the flag smashers. When they were opportunistic little bastards that just wanted to kill people, almost for fun.
You didn't need to side with them, just understand where they were coming from, which you clearly didn't.
More importantly, I don't care.
They start blowing up office buildings and setting up bombings of the general population, I give no fricks why they are mad.
They were repeatedly FORCED into violence. They had no choice and then they had a crazy Captain America wannabe actively hunting them like animals. Everything escalated without their own effort.
nah i do i still find them homosexuals frick them
I do see where they are coming from. Because I see their reasoning, I believe they should all of them be shoved into a wood chipper, feet first. Walker went easy on that one fricker.
>actual nuanced responses understanding the point instead of just angry ranting about brown people
holy shit
>Nuanced
Bro they all said that they're not terrorists because of what they're fighting for when the definition of a terrorist is HOW they fight for what they believe in
>they all said that they're not terrorists
Why lie?
He didn't, all four of them make excuses for terrorists.
Sorry dude, but samegayging doesn't work here.
>IP counter removed
Yeah it does
>Implying we can't just spot you based on your exact writing and argumentative style.
If I needed an IP counter to spot little homosexuals like you, I'd kill myself for being your mental equal.
I've posted three times in this thread, quote the posts please.
All of these are your posts
>I posted 3 times...
You are a liar commie boy
Bwo...please calm down. It is the weekend, go do something fun.
I just got in from yard work and my endorphins are through the roof. It's a wonderful inoculation against commie gobbledeasiatic
Oh now, now he won't be able to go out and die for neolibs interests. Guess he'll just have to content himself with popping commies here at home.
>uhh actually he didnt even want to join!
LOL he tried to get in after this by sending a video of him field stripping a rifle. Weird person to simp for.
>I know! I'll just pretend he said something he didn't and own him with that.
I never said he never wanted to join, just that God may have already revealed his purpose. One day he'll understand, and on that day, I hope you're not rioting in Kenosha
Tradcath larpers are so embarrassing.
Not as much as atheists who run back to catholicism now that they know the west will soon be finished
>YOU'RE A TRADCATH!!!
even if that were an insult, it's still inaccurate. Since you've just decided to resort to flinging out sad excuses for insults, I'm just gonna go ahead and declare my victory and get some dinner.
Have fun seething gay boy!
>Kyle flunked his marine application test so badly that they banned him from ever applying again
LOL
see
What good points do they have? They wanted actual one world government? The lead b***h wanted to be a history teacher yet she had no idea why borders and countries exist.
>What good points do they have?
Being forcibly evicted by the country that welcomed you when they had a workforce scarcity into poorly maintained internment camps rife with disease and squalor is bad.
Why couldn’t they just go back to their own countries? What was honestly stopping them from just going home?
Not just the fact that they had legally immigrated to America but also the fact they weren't even given a choice of a proper process.
If they managed to make it there with nothing before then they should be able to make it back with no issue.
They came for work. The work is gone. They go back.
The Flag Smashers were fighting to maintain a position of privilege over several billion dispossessed people who had lost everything. They were taking "frick you, got mine" to murderous levels. It raises the question of who exactly is supporting the Flag Smashers considering damn near the entire world should have a friend or loved one who was Snapped. Now, could you have presented this as a nuanced position with everyone having a fair point and people simplifying every argument to make their position look good and have it raise questions of when and how much violence is justified? Yes, but the show failed to do that, and instead made its lead look like a chump who wasn't paying attention to his own show.
I feel like the dilemma presented was flawed from the start because I highly doubt the world goverments would prioritize those who were snapped over five years ago and don't know shit about anything because they were displaced instead of those who actually did remain and now how the new world works now.
You're talking about half the world's population with literally nothing to lose; that's a powderkeg if there ever was one. But it's also a missed opportunity for the show. Like have Sam run into the loan officer later and we find that he was Snapped too and went from a senior bank exec worth millions to destitute man working an entry level bank job and sharing a crowded apartment with five other people who were Snapped. Show everyone is in a bad spot and there is no easy answer.
Trying to show "realistic" effects of the snap was not a good idea. It would be a massive research project to figure out how that would plausibly work in a way that couldn't be immediately picked apart, and probably the answer would just end up being some kinda mass chaos that wouldnt make for a good superhero show
I wish we got more worldbuilding on the Snap. Like, imagine how fricked the economy was after the random yeeting of four billion people. Empty mansions & penthouses would have been bought by cashiers & fast food workers with their roommates.
There is no good reason why borders and countries exist, it's all just because of unnecessary avarice and obsession with power
Well, cultural clash is a thing.
Absolute moron
Then why dont you invite all the refuges into your house? Introduce them to your wife and daughter?
you could say the same with Hydra
The issue with the "Reducing the terrorist" thing is that you CAN say that about any terrorist organization. And, I don't know, one would argue you should? Calling them "nazis" ignores the fact that a lot of people were dissatisfied with Germany's previous government and wanted Hitler in for example. Are we going to argue that? Why not?
The issue is people can't stay consistent with that shit. A black guy robs a store, and we have to consider everything that lead him there. A white guy becomes a white supremacist, and we're supposed to ignore the fact that he was poor, uneducated, isolated, and found white supremacy as his only support group.
I'm fine with either calling them terrorists, or not, but not if we're wishy washy about it.
Valid points lmao
>COPS BAD
>EVERYTHING SHOULD BE LIKE CHAZ
>NOOOOO YOU CAN'T JUST FORCE US TO GIVE UP OUR SQUATTERS RIGHTS BECAUSE THE GLOBAL POPULATION DOUBLED OVER NIGHT AND WE'RE HOLDING ONTO MORE THAN OUR FAIT SHARE!!!
>WE HAVE THE MORAL IMPERATIVE OF BEING LUCKY ENOUGH TO NOT GET SNAPPED, WHICH MEANS WE'RE ENTITLED TO ALL YOUR SHIT!!!
You know, for a bunch of commie baby killers, they sure seem to value private property so long as it's their own.
Actually dealing with the underlying problems that cause disadvantaged people to believe they have to turn to violence in order to survive, instead of just slapping a boogeyman label on them to dehumanize them.
But killing innocents to achieve your goal is definition of terrorism
Don’t engage. No one who justifies slaughtering innocents has any real idea of how to change people or things. They’re bottom feeders and first against the wall.
It's to warn people that just writing them off as supervillains is ignoring the issues that created them in the first place
One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter
One of those men is wrong
Yes, the one calling the freedom fighter a terrorist
Yes, the one who isn't lying
>antifa is a real organization the government can arrest members of.
but it is at least in Ireland with a network of handed out phones, a list of things to do, videos of government backed newscaster prepping and making their Antifa gear
homie if you don't know antifa is shitty fed op I don't know what to tell you except open yo motherfrickin eyes.
Nope. If you intentionally target innocent non combatants you are a terrorist period.
It's why the mujahideen were freedom fighters and the taliban are terrorist. The Mujas were targeting invading Soviet military personnel, the taliban targets civilians.
If you dismiss the people you disagree with on policy as just being "the bad people" then you're not going to solve issues long term. It's better to at least *try* and understand their ideology.
The funny thing is that if he said "you need to stop calling them nazis" suddenly everyone here would've understood it.
>The funny thing is that if he said "you need to stop calling them nazis" suddenly everyone here would've understood it.
They were using the fear of violence (Terror) to scare people into their goals. They were terrorists.
t. nazi apologist
nah more like sane person
thank god commietrannies and your kind will always be seen as freaks
>The funny thing is that if he said "you need to stop calling them nazis" suddenly everyone here would've understood it.
Yeah and if he'd said that then everyone who currently cooms themselves catatonic to this dross would've instead shit themselves to prolapse with rage and hunted the writer down with home made spears.
>and if
Irrelevant, you are too dumb actually predict how people would have reacted, after all you are intentionally avoiding the fact that nowadays the ones being called terrorists are the right wingers. Points similar to Sam's line were made after what happened the last election.
Picrel
Don't engage in whataboutism and then cry when someone beats you at it.
On second thought, do cry, your tears nourish me.
BE BETTER DO BETTER!
i have so was john walker
brown people = good
white people = bad
in reality its the other way round
Good = Brown people
Bad = White people
nope all dark colored people are bad white people are good you homosexual israelite
The need to stop the terrorists violent acts should not obscure the need to solve the real social problem that created the terrorists
What creates terrorists is not univariate. This is what terror-supporters use to intimidate the public into fascism - "vote how we tell you and the attacks will stop."
Terrorists, historically and currently, are overwhelmingly of the bourgeoisie class, are educated, and are trained by government-funded groups. They are tools to be used in propagandistic wars. There is no social problem that "creates terrorists" because ANY social problem may be used as justification for a terror attack. The best solution is to murder anyone and everyone who participates in terror plots.
Well that was not the case in the tv show.
It was peak neolib "just let the system work :3" garbage. Its really fricking funny how they pulled this shit while also making their villains comically evil so you could dismiss their arguments.
A common critique of the superhero genre is the villains have tragic backstories as a result of problems in society, but the heroes don't really do anything about the problems that made them villains in the first place. So I think this scene was their answer to that.
The problem is it's really heavy-handed, cringey and doesn't really make a whole lot of sense in context.
you gotta do better
i have i know im better then those moronic terrorists
The flag smashers were in the right.
no they really weren't they were homosexuals
nah John Walker was
John Walker was a meanie chud and he is white :p
Nobody seems to have addressed this yet, but this show was a victim of reshoots caused by Covid. The original plot was supposed to have been something about a pandemic, with governments and elites stockpiling a cure, and the Flag Smashers starting out as Robin Hood-type vigilantes stealing the cure to hand out to people who were being left to die. The lead Flag Smasher's mother dying of the virus would have been the point that radicalized the group into killing.
Suddenly the plot became too close to what was happening IRL and they re-shot a lot of the show, changing the plot so the Flag Smashers were basically just migrant workers who were fighting against getting sent back home when they were no longer needed, but it looks like the basic plot around their actions and escalation to killing wasn't really changed, and none of the scenes of Sam making excuses for them and acting like they were justified were rewritten or re-shot.
The cure is literally antiinflammatories and water.
frick that fake virus
Don't bother, the vaxxies will just shut down and mindless repeat the last argument update that got uploaded to their empty skulls.
Be Soft on crime 🙂
you may call them terrorists but you should be calling them teachers, doctors, lawyers, etc.
Gazans aren't terrorists just because they're fighting back Israeli occupation. You're welcome.
He was right. When you overuse a term, it lose it's meaning.
Like "fascist" o "communist".
Shouldn't Falcon be lecturing other birds instead of people?
Frick Craptain Blackmerica, nobody likes that homosexual
Why?
>america has never created its own enemies
>I'll take "shit no one said" for 500, Alex.
t. zoomer.
"Terrorism" isn't an ideology, it's a buzzword that's been used since 9/11 to tar everyone from ISIS to climate activists to school shooters to internet pranksters to the Kardashians with the same brush. It's a fairly empty, useless, incredibly subjective phrase. It's non-descriptive and widely applicable. OP is literally a terrorist.
It's worthless in any political context, it only serves as emotive propaganda. Discussing a movement or group's actual beliefs and designating them accordingly is infinitely more useful.
OP is under 21 and believes antifa is a real organization the government can arrest members of.
This series was dogshit, btw.
Terrorist sympathizer detected
Odds are you are too, bro.
Are people really dense enough to think Sam wasn't saying they are not terrorists, but that calling them so without taking into account what made them terrorists solves nothing?
Sam really should have focused on stopping the bad guys from killing innocent people.
Did you miss the helicopter and truck full of innocents he saved?
Sam is black. So yes.
Do not try to reason with the traitor cuck, they will happily let the authoritarian boot step all over their necks if it means they get to be bad about brown and black people existing.
Any American who uses the word "terrorist" pejoratively should be tarred, feathered, publicly paraded around to be mocked and humiliated, stripped of their assets, and forcibly exiled to Canada, like the Founding Fathers intended.
You’re aware the gaysmashers are advocating for literal globohomosexual right?
This would have been a good message if the people Sam was talking about weren't cartoonishly evil "Thanos was right" wackos.
You can really tell this came out in the wake of 2020 and all the BLM violence.
So tiresome. It's literal cargo cult shit.
That's not even my issue with it. Its the fact that the writers don't know what the frick they should say, even when its obvious. morons on this board were able to figure out a simple "Don't ignore why they've resorted to terrorism" message, and I think that's perfectly fine. Instead it was literally:
>Don't call them terrorists
>Why?
>You need to do better
>How?
>...I have no idea.
And then he flew off or some shit.
It was all moronic and all obviously inspired by pro-riot BLM sympathies in the writer's room.
I get that these morons are propagandists. I just thought they'd be better at it.
Still wild to think the US reenacted the late 60s race riots, in the middle of an ongoing pandemic, just because some fentanyl addict criminal died in Minneapolis.
And instead of blaming the drugs that got him in trouble and are part of a Communist plot to cripple the country they blame the police system and defund it allowing all our major cities into Gotham.
All of this shit just leads me to continue believing that making a 5 year time skip in Endgame...that was not erased from the timeline a mistake. MCU Earth was just going to be a weird nonsensical shitshow forever after.
Even the Infinity Gauntlet mini in 1990 had Nebula wind time back and unmade everything Thanos did just to spite him.
You think that new (and inevitably shit) movie is going to address this at all? Also, I think its disturbing how a Captain America series can't have a "America is great despite its flaws" message. Its so strangely bitter about America, like self loathing and it actually makes me feel nothing but contempt for its writers. Captain Japan wouldn't be written like this. Nor Captain China, or Captain India. But Captain America has to be so cucked as to make everything about dealing with America's past and politics?
It’s Hollywood, they hate the idea of actually reconciling issues and creating solutions because it goes against their main ideology.
This is why Captain Falcon never really caught on in comics and the MCU is looking like it'll make the same mistake.
Sam is always written like a fricking wet blanket when he has the shield. Because a black Captain America just HAS to be bitter, I guess.
Literally what makes this different from Steve renouncing the shield because of Nixon
Nixon crimes pales in comparisons to last 6 presidents and its not even funny is why
Nixon facilitated a genocide on Cambodia. His crimes are comparable if not just as deplorable as Trump's and Biden's.
>cambodians killing cambodians is Nixons fault
Ok then by that logic you supported trump and biden and all their crimes
>destabilize a nation by illegally bombing it
>can't be blamed by whatever happens next
Shouldn't you burning in hell, Atwater?
>uhhhh lets let the crazy madman that wants to kill everyone with eyeglasses into power surely nothing wrong will happen.
>We'll blame nixon and somewhere some moron some will be all for it
k
>bomb a country without congressional approval
>feign concern when you're blamed for the disastrous consequences of bombing said country
I hope your kids get brain tumors too, Lee.
>acts concerned about a country being genocided
>becomes racist the next post in
Like pottery, you already have brain tumors.
>he thinks Lee Atwater is an asian name
You gotta be 12 years old. It's the only way this doesn't become the most embarrassing moment in your life.
Sure anon you werent being racist at all. I believe you.
>he doesn't know who Atwater was
Might as well tell everyone in the thread you're South American, Pedro.
>lets talk about a man that has nothing to do with the Cambodian genocide
Just say you're a racist /misc/tard.
>concedes to knowing who Atwater was
Dumb homosexual Pablo.
see
>acts concerned about a country being genocided
>becomes racist the next post in
kek you just can't help but prove my point
Nice try /misc/tard
Yes native peoples on their native lands do not feel so bad about the formation of their nation.
Meanwhile a former slave of a slave owning colony built on the graveyard of a native peoples and constructed with slave labor is not going to have such a great reputation among many, including their own citizens.
Do you weep for the Gauls? Because if not you’re a hypocrite.
>thinking people like him even know who the gauls are
It still fits my point, most people cry about genocide and slavery but barely know anything about it outside of specific and overly publicized examples.
yes, thats it exactly.
>I am afraid that there is a certain class of race-problem solvers who don't want the patient to get well, because as long as the disease holds out they have not only an easy means of making a living, but also an easy medium through which to make themselves prominent before the public.
>Booker T. Washington
Its a attention whoring and profiting off, Gaul means nothing to them and never will unless they can profit off it.
have a nice day.
This series does a real shit job anyway because 90% of it is Sam struggling to live, get a loan, pay bills, take care of himself, and being lectured by old black guys about how hard life is. When the audience is here to watch fricking superheroes punch bad guys. The show from start to finish is just misery porn about how life in America sucks, and you should feel bad etc etc.
Then it ends with Sam only really succeeding because he and Bucky get free help from wealthy foreign backers who supply them with super suits and cyborg gadgets.Then Sam's speech kind of goes against his constant struggle throughout the whole series, you just plain have to be better than what you are now. Says the guy who was failing at life until wealthy foreign government gave him everything.
Steve Cap movies are not nonstop constant struggle, failing, misery, not paying bills, losing homes and chats with older guys who also b***h and moan about how everything sucks. He is endless getting back up no matter what, inspiring everyone, always giving the rousing pep talk, and half the movie is cool backflips, triple kicks, mid air kicks, and insane wire fu stints. Sam's show was some superhero stuff in the first 5 minutes of the first episode, and some superhero stuff in the last 5 minutes of the last episode. And a whole lot of misery porn in between.
Marvel movies are a lot different than they use to be.
Also can you give your thoughts on Thor as a character and as movies?
You described most MCU shows. It's hours of personal drama or investigative crime drama with guys walking and talking in almost every single episode, then some actual superhero action in costume in the climax of the final episode.
They are all 6 episode series that consist of 5.9 episodes of people in regular ol clothes chatting and a few minutes of someone in a costume in the last bit of the last episode.
It would physically kill Captain Falcon to be happy just for one second. I think a lot of people overlook that about him, and its why he fricked sucked as Captain America.
Has Ford ever done a movie where he was happy about making it?
He loves Indiana Jones
I wonder if we'd still have all this moronation if they kept the speech exactly as it was and just axed this line.
Well the rest of the speech would've still been a moronic drawn out rant where he said basically nothing for 5 minutes, so... Yeah
>america has never created its own enemies
Regardless of what you say, its BS to know that countries have, and will do worse things than America, yet America has to take the credit as the worst and most racist country to have ever lived.
It is.
It's okay, one day you'll grow out of your obsession.
There's places where child slavery is the norm, but America is worse to you guys because some people say words like "Black person".
>n-word
MODS!
>Regardless of what you say
no
no is yes
People like you are why media products everywhere are becoming toothless moralizing tales that spell out everything instantly. Maybe try to think of your real world politics outside the narrow microscope of superhero flicks.
You could not possibly be responding to me; I've been explaining how you can can actually have a "don't call them terrorists" discussion and mention that we could extend this idea to IRL discussions, too. If media becomes toothless because of me, it'd be because they're trying to avoid the things I'm saying we should talk about.
While the gaze of White Male artists and scientists originally favoured ‘heavier’ people, ‘thinness’ became a racially coded form of distinguishing superiority. As Strings writes, Europeans and North Americans needed to create something in opposition in order to establish a racial hierarchy. She argues that White and Black Women were originally praised for their ‘voluptuousness’, but a stigma against fatness was then attached to Black Women in order to paint them as inferior, and White Women were encouraged to lose weight to distinguish their status.Through the slave trade, colonisers positioned Black people as “counterpoints” in order to link thinness to White superiority (Strings, 2019). This project of racemaking was critical to the colonial agenda of painting people in the Global South as less than human to justify their enslavement, colonisation, and exploitation. As colonisers spread Protestant Christianity too, the moral disdain for ‘over-indulgence’ helped shape anti-fat bias.
The problem is that the writers somehow managed to choose the one part of the fallout of the Unsnap that both simultaneously would have existing legal precedents to handle, how to handle dispersion of property of someone erroneously declared dead, and realistically would have litigation regarding it extend well past the lifespans of everyone directly involved. It's not a topic you could handle within the confines of a single season.
see
Just because you say it doesnt mean you practice or even believe it. There are so many hypocritical pricks that say this, yet will always always back track when the going gets tough.
There's literally no way to prove that I practice what I preach, so I don't see any way we can move forward with that facet of the discussion. Lets just just tell each other "you're full of shit" and go back to our corners.
The fact that you sympathize with these morons tells me you're the exact type of person that sympathizes with its analog in the real world
I never said I sympathized with anyone, but as I already implied, you're just going to make a concentrated effort to misunderstand me, so the rest of the conversation is useless.
>I never said I sympathized with anyone
You know it bothers me how people like you think everyone doesn't have the braincells to rub together to figure out you're full of it.
It really does, you know and I know it and you'd still lie to my face.
>but proof
You taking an offense to a generic statement lobbied at them and continuously refusing to address other anons points about why these terrorists are called terrorists in the first place tells me you are exactly that type of person.
Lie to yourself but why lie to me?
Yeah america just does it more often, in more places, and with more efficiency. It is also the only country to date to use an atomic bomb in a war
But every country has it fair share of blood, yeah. China has a lot.
Bruh, if you're talking about own goals the USSR was right there. The Soviet-Afghan War was kicked off when the USSR, citing a treaty of friendship with Afghanistan, assassinated the Soviet-aligned head of the Soviet-backed Democratic Republic of Afghanistan to replace him with a leader aligned to the Soviet Union. Eight years later the Soviet Union then deposed that leader for being too aligned with the Soviet Union.
Why is Russia's history so cartoonishly violent and awful? Is it because of the whole business with the Mongols?
In Russia you can frick a man in the ass to prove you are straight.
Russia to only ones with balls in the west. Trying to stop terrorist attacks as they happen because everyone else are incel cucks
>being this delusional
>doesn't know about Australia, where the "men" ran away and the Russian was the only one stopping the guy trying to stab kids
Incels like you are a blight up on this world
>one isolated incident means Russians are based
you make Lord Putin proud Ivan, I'm sure you'll have that same energy when you get drafted to fight Ukraine!
your insult makes no sense, Ruskiecuck
thats not an insult thats an observation of Australian "men" running away as they leave women and children to get stabbed.
Based. Protecting the motherland from nazi scum is a just cause.
America invaded more countries than the soviet union did.
No other country was formed after near complete eradication of the native peoples. No other country made "Freedom" the far too often repeated mantra carved into every single monument and building while still keeping slavery as an institution.
those same monuments and buildings were built by slaves too. Likely the word freedom hard carved into the stone by a slave worker.
Top bait, really good.
Muslims eradicated 90% of native culture/populations across Northern Africa, and that’s just them. We’ll never know how many died in Bantu expansion or the Islamic genocides in India.
Islam is a religion, not a culture or people.
This is the most pathetic shit dude, frickin great. Keep goin
I think you mean to say the British and the French. Those were European colonies for the better part of 400 years.
Which occurred before or after Islamic genocide? Come on, don’t be shy.
Well since one happened and the other is european fiction meant to stir popular support for colonization. I will have to pick the one that is real.
Glad you agree. It really is a shame so many people believe Northern Africa is primarily “Arab” or “Egyptian.” That wasn’t the case until after Arab Muslims slaughtered half of it.
> european fiction
b***h have you never seen a roman empire map in your damn life?
He’s trolling, let him. It’s funny.
Bro, did you know Arabs STILL aren’t over the Reconquista? Sour grapes doesn’t begin to describe it.
Are you serious? Maybe they should have spent less time engaging in civil war about who's the rightful heir to Muhammad
Based Spain made ham their National dish after kicking out Muslims, so fricking funny.
you just know theres no love lost when a country does that just to stick it you one last time
Those farmers didn't need to commit terrorism on their own people they were supposedly trying to reunite with.
None of those were JUST peasant farmers. That's a socialist myth.
Fatphobia is the vilification of or discrimination against fat people that pervades across industries, institutions, and individuals. This piece will break down the historical origins of fatphobia, as it was constructed to uphold racism, sexism, disablism, colonialism, cissexism, classism and other oppressions. Once we understand why fatphobia was created, and the White patriarchal order it benefits, we can move away from harmful narratives that fat people are ‘lazy’ or ‘unhealthy.’ We will then look at some ways our workplaces can directly disrupt fatphobia, in order to deprioritise colonialist and Eurocentric beauty and health standards.
I hate fat people because they smell bad.
I hate white people because they're cucks and I'm a joo
I hope DIO kills your dog.
nah you are the cuck you homosexual israelite
No, you
yes you homosexual
Punisher shoots that guy for being a fricking maniac in the next issue.
No, he killed him because he was reckless and accidentally killed a cleaning lady when he shredded a bunch of executives during a meeting when his bullet went through a wall. He probably would have let him off scot-free otherwise and let him off with a warning that he'd be coming after him if he fricked up.
Superheroes react to crime or go on adventures in stylish ways, solving real-world moral dilemmas is fricking homosexual and always leads to the cringiest shit in an attempt to make them seem "mature"
>but it's not that bad
>but they do worse
>to be fair
no
Which is worse?
a woman just lost her children.
Imaginary children.
“Bull shit. She enslaved a town because her viborator broke. If it was a man, you would have buried him alive.”
What Sam said. Monica's line can be chalked up to the personal opinion of someone emotionally compromised by similar feelings of grief. Sam is literally telling a guy who nearly got murdered to not say mean things about the woman who nearly murdered him.
No, he's telling the guy who is trying to pretend that the problem is over all because 'the bad woman died' that the problem is very much NOT over and if he doesn't want this to happen again he needs to get his head out of his ass, because Captain America might not be there to save him next time.
the one who should get his head out of his ass is this shitty wannabee captain America
Super soldier serums dont grow on trees
The problem was over
Can't compare the lines because even though Wanda suffered that doesn't justify what she did to those people.
Sam's words had actually meaning.
The people seething about that line are intentionally misrepresenting the events of that show and pretending Wanda knew she was hurting people the whole time. And also arguing against the show's own narrative, pretending her family weren't alive just so they can claim she wasn't giving anything up by destroying them.
It's not the same situation as Sam making excuses for terrorists who were knowingly and intentionally killing people.
I'm so happy that MoM finally made Wanda the monster
Except in MoM Strange tells Wanda he doesn't care about what she did to Westview because she did the right thing in the end, which is worse than what Monica said.
People who thought Wanda got off too easy in WandaVision wanted MoM to validate them but since it uses the stupid device of a magic book that turns people evil it doesn't really have anything to say about her character, it just renders WandaVision pointless.
You're wasting your time anon. People like that hate-watched a show about a character they already hated and they just want her to stop being a thing.
THEY
WERE
NOT
REAL
>n-n-no what the show explicitly says is wrong, my headcanon is right
A lot of people still don't understand that Wanda is NOT a hero. She was one before Disassembled, but that story prevents anyone from thinking of her a selfless character (the most important hero trait).
>anon is just going to let Brian Bendis of all people decide who gets to be a hero and who doesn't
Disassembled is a bad story, we don't define any other superhero by their worst stories where some hack suddenly turned them crazy.
yes mommy
Did S.W.O.R.D. cover her breast augmentation or did she have to pay for those implants herself?
>lots of people made fun of him back then for this line
>there are people who are using the same argouments right now
You'll never now how a thing is going to age.
its even more cringe now
if you are stupid, yes.
no you are stupid if you agree/like it
>no you
stopped reading there, idiot.
yes you homosexual
>the troon got so mad he had to raply twice
geez, here some attention for you, idiot. That will be the last piece though doggie 🙂
you're the troon homosexual
Only troons use the
>do better
line. A line completely fricking worthless dumping all the problem solving on others.
you're the idiot
assume that people who "just want well" but offer no real solutions really only want to be posers
What I don't understand is how the people that were snapped were in a strong enough position to push those who were already established in their absence out of their homes. Five years is a long fricking time to get things reestablished by those who weren't snapped, and that's well past damn near any statute to have your possessions sold off by the state after you've been declared legally dead.
Because they form a sudden power block. What the non-snapped people want or care about is going to vary from person to person, not every un-snapped person is displaced or angry. But EVERY person who got snapped and came back, without exception, is confused and scared and angry. Half the government just came back, and half of the military came back with them, and as far as they are all concerned *they still have their jobs, powers, and authority*. The fact that the rest of the world might not agree and wants to take that away from then is just going to make them react more extremely.
>Half the government just came back
And no longer have their positions, they've been replaced by many others in the past five years, entire regimes would have changed.
>Hey, Xi's back, says he wants his seat back.
>That's nice, I got a seat for him in cell somewhere with his name on it.
>and half of the military came back with them
Who are much more than likely no longer in possession of the means to press their concerns.
>and as far as they are all concerned *they still have their jobs, powers, and authority*.
They were dead for five years, all of their shit was repossessed, looted, or had rotted away by then.
>The fact that the rest of the world might not agree and wants to take that away from then is just going to make them react more extremely.
The point is that they would have been in a far weaker bargaining position. The unsnapped are running the government, they have the guns, they have actual legal backing to their claims.
>that was my home!
>Exactly, WAS your home. Mr. Farmer here bought it four years ago and had been living there ever since.
If anything, it would have been the snapped in refugee camps since they don't have leverage, not the unsnapped, it's fricking stupid. There would be mixed reactions from the unsnapped, but you're cracked if you think the power dynamics are somehow going to flip right back around just because the dead suddenly came back to life.
We're talking a full 50% of the population. Unless you are actively denying them legal rights the first thing they're going to do is form a massive special interest voting group backed by friends and family.
50% of the population is a lot of electoral power and a shit ton of potential violence. Also, at least in the USA, if you're erroneously declared dead and property sold off then you are still entitled to that property and can reclaim it or receive compensation. Ultimately tye world building is too shallow to give an effective answer. Realistically most property would go to next of kin or follow any existing wills, the people involved don't appear to be citizens but on some kind of work visa so simply not renewing the visas would solve the problem, and realistically not everyone returned would even have a problem because it wasn't a 1:1 replacement. The actual issue they should dealing with is the second total collapse of the global economy in 5 years.
How is it possible to frick up this bad.
I dont think i wanted that
>let women write
>they ruin everything
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Terrorist is the right-wing version of calling people "nazi" I mean they were calling people that kneeled during the anthem terrorist or terrorist sympathizers. Hell you can also see how Palenstine is being called a terrorist state when isreal does what they do in 10x scale and worse
I agree that both are terms used to shut down discussion, "call the other side nazi/terrorist, brain turn off", I think I disagree that they are both equally worthless criticism. People don't generally call themselves terrorists, thats a label attributed to them by whoever considers them a threat. But some people *absolutely* identify themselves as nazis and clad themselves in nazi iconography or ideology, and calling out those people as nazis shouldn't be treated as pearl clutching just because teenagers on the internet overuse the word for anyone they don't like.
I'm right leaning and I think you're right for the most part. It's all muddy politics and I hate it and wish we could just go back to the times where the only thing that was political was the old farts we elect
>Israel does worse
Even if we believe Hamas numbers (when they have lied about a destroyed hospital, did not fully document 1/3 of casualties, and don't name the sources for 1/2 them in their official report), they have killed 5 times more in less than a day, when they had a chance, with worse equipment, than Israel does daily through the war in which they have a just cause to either force Hamas to unconditional surrender or destroy their entire military potential.
>when they have lied about a destroyed hospital,
Israel has intentionally and openly admitted to destroying every hospital in Gaza at this point, with most carrying a far higher death rate than the allegedly "faked" one, and yet people still don't recognize what that means.
>allegedly "faked"
The still standing Gaza City’s al-Ahli Arab Hospital’s parking lot got struck (by most likely Hamas missile), while Hamas were insisting that 100+ people have died there, to spark world wide riots
Those are facts, and lying about this doesn't help your case.
>let me talk about another hospital that wasnt destroyed
uhhhh ok. Not really relevant to the one that was.
don't forget how they absolutely positively weren't operating out of al-Shifa
then they found weapons and tunnels there but that's not a REAL operation
and then they showed cctv of hamas taking hostages there but shut up
and now hamas moved back in and everyone's trying to memoryhole the whole situation and instead shift the narrative to israel having weak occupation rather than hamas using hospitals
Did you see that whatever intern Hamas hired to compile death tolls literally increased them using a perfect linear function? The dastardly Israelis are murdering innocent peaceful Gazans at mathematically perfect rates! Unprecedented!
Israel literally said they won't stop until they'll wipe out their enemy, kids included because "they will become terrorist anyway".
That's not something Hamas said, and yet people are reluctant in saying this is not genocide, but those same people get trigged if someone says something over a war that happened almost a century ago in which they took no part.
What those idiots don't understand (or don't want to understand) is that no one remains a victim for long, and that truth be told israelians were the invaders in the first place so just because Germany tried to wipe them out once doesn't give them a free out of jail card on this one.
>Israel said
So, not a person you are going to name? How curious
I got no stakes in this israelite, who want to know already knows. You aren't fooling anyone and i have no intention in humoring a homosexual anymore.
I accept your capitulation resulting from you not bringing your ammo to a gunfight
Dont need to chudcel
Stop killing kids for real estate.
you have to stop calling Hamas terrorists
Do better.
I'm like the only guy who thought the show was fine and better than it had any right to be. Like yeah, the Flagsmashers were boring but the Bucky/Zemo/Isaiah/Walker storylines were compelling.
No I agree with you. F&WS was a decent-to-good action movie that happened to fill the timeslot of a miniseries. Virtually all of the criticism against the show is politically minded, which makes it seem like these people had an axe to grind to begin with and latched onto whatever they could to validate the opinion they had already decided they had a year before the thing even aired.
Hell, just look at this thread. Did OP make any kind of argument or critique? No, he just shat out a post containing a line that he knew people would respond negatively to. Completely vapid and superficial.
>Virtually all of the criticism against the show is politically minded
NTA, but this show ruined Sam as a character for me in episode one. Steve trusted Sam to honor and continue his legacy and Sam decides that's too hard and gives up before the show has even started. Then he gets rid of the shield (in a world where vibranium items have been very publicly stolen from museums) and doesn't even give it to Bucky so he can have a memento of his old friend. I hated that Sharon is just suddenly a bad guy now because she's apparently the only member of Team Cap that never got pardoned. I wanted a buddy cop comedy adventure (the entire reason people wanted more of Sam and Bucky is "Can you move your seat up?" "No." and "You couldn't have done that earlier?" "I hate you.") and instead I got "black people sad." Not to mention the show's inability to decide on how to portray the Flagsmashers. Yeah, Zemo was great (I love that they retconned him into being a baron, frick the Russos), but nowhere near enough to save the show. "You've got to do better, senator" was the least of this show's problems.
Everybody wanted buddy cop adventure with costumes.
What we got was misery porn and how much life in America sucks because America sucks.And maybe a grand total of like 8 minutes of superhero action in a big budget 6 episode series.
>Everybody wanted buddy cop adventure with costumes.
No we didn't. That's some homosexual boomer shit.
You're right, people totally wanted more episodes of Sam struggling to get a boat loan!
The worst part about this show was the treatment of super serums and action scenes.
None of the fricking homosexuals they got bothered to hit the gym and so you have these dumpy looking c**ts being somehow on par with ex/current elite military and the whole fricking approach to fighting scenes is "someone on the serum throws someone else a good spine shattering distance away, then that someone gets up, and then someone else on the serum throws someone else a good spine shattering distance away, then that someone gets up, and then..."
It was the most boring fricking shit to watch.
Cry more
>Ok, what should we do then, Captain?
>DO BETTER *flies away*
WOAW thanks Captain America!
Do better?
Hmm, he must want to be more racist and more corrupt. Yes surely that's what his whole speech was about. I need to be better.
Dear fricking god this thread is like a sanitized version of /misc/.
Because once the politics all you have is the dead politics and history left.
So you can say with 100% certainty that certain people ran their nations into the ground. And if you have the braincells to rub together you'd connect history to politics
But that would only make people butthurt at the end of the day.
>boogeyman
Always remember that /misc/ is always the reaction, this is a contemporary cultural problem that lacks zero subtlety and nuance at large that has bled into mainstream television about comic book heroes.
What's A-Train going on about now?
Do better?
How?
Not my problem
Unironically I don't know why people hate this show, it's actually 7.5/10 at worse, and US Agent isn't shown as the "Bad Guy" just a lost kid who keeps having to suffer from being manipulated by the literal shadow government hoping he and his friend take the blame, and then he becomes a "Good Guy" or at least another lost kid to take the fall in Thunderbolts.
He wasn't a strawman for the writers to beat up like, Soldier Boy or Homelander
you need to step up your media literacy
Black people exist.
I can't wait for his movie to bomb
no
I feel like comic book movies will just start avoiding the middle east for a while, its going to make everyone think about aid workers being bombed while our officials wring their hands. Honenstly a lot of media is going to be heavily criticized now as a result of our foreign affairs policies being nakedly hypocritical.
>aid workers being bombed (after abetting an Islamic terror group)
That's crazy. How'd you do that? The last half of your sentence didn't show up on the post.
>its okay to kill aid workers
Yeah I dont know how your kind is losing the optics war
So much incelness in this post.
uhhh no sweaty you're the incel here. Stop trying to justify murdering kids you piece of shit
Seriously, it's Saturday night. Go out, try to lose your virginity or you'll end up eating your gun. Thank me later:3
>Stop killing kids
>just have sex
Wow so all i need to do is have sex and i'm justified in killing kids?
Get your head checked man before you hurt someone like that incel in Australia.
Seriously im trying to save your life. Don't thank me its not necessary just doing my part for the human race.
>Stop killing sex
>Just have kids
Incels like you just want to murder them
Take this friday night off and find yourself a good psychiatrist, be better do better.
Lol, based
Can you make a variety with the main chicks ugly mug instead of the mask?
Okay but only if they stop killing people with the explicit intent of restoring the greatest mass murderer in the history of the universe's greatest atrocity in the name of free gibs.