Based and same. Pirate, if you like it and it exists on physical, buy it, preferably used. Unless it's a smaller band I like, then I actually try to buy it from them.
Based and same. Pirate, if you like it and it exists on physical, buy it, preferably used. Unless it's a smaller band I like, then I actually try to buy it from them.
>outsourcing to sweatshops >make a couple trailers telling people that "animation is hard and takes time" >animation is a powerpoint slideshow and most of the voice actors dont even give enough of a frick to shit out a half decent performance barring jk Simmons
just read the comics, it probably has more frames than the animation at this point...and there wont be multi year intervals between seasons and "mid-season finales"
Is funny the Confederates were invoking the Founding Father as to why they need to leave and make the states when they would have made George Washington last well in Testament in legal.( he said in his will get he wanted his slaves to be free when he died doing that would be illegal in the Confederacy)
What he have been able to have his wife slaves released?Also doesn't change the fact that it would be a nice gesture get the Confederacy would have made against the law.
Robert E Lee was also in the process of freeing his Father in laws slaves.
The issue was that he could not afford to both free all the slaves, pay off all the debts, and provide the endowments specified in the Will.
He was another one who married into a wealthy family
What he have been able to have his wife slaves released?Also doesn't change the fact that it would be a nice gesture get the Confederacy would have made against the law.
remember people, it's the governments that are evil, not the individual citizens that just want to watch(and make) cartoons
A few years ago america had a super right wing president, and now they have a super left wing president, and yet I assume you, whatever political position you believe in, haven't changed their opinion during that time?
Monarchs are better than any form of democracy or communism. A brutal tyrant can be deposed. A benevolant tyrant is fine. Mob rule is always the worst form of government and easily corrupted and controlled. You can pull a tyrant out of a tower. You cant stop army of useful idiots ensuring the destruction of your entire way of life 'for your own good'.
>super right wing president
absolutely not, trump was center-right incarnate, don't disrespect the actual, hard-working american nazis by comparing them to a mincing fancy lad in a bathrobe b***hing about celebrities on twitter.
>super left-wing president
You'd know if we ever had a super left-wing president because the richest of the rich would be being tried in the Hague for crimes against humanity. Biden is ALSO center-right, because both of them are puppets of the capitalist class who prefer stagnant corporate hegemony over any forward motion, left or right.
>the governments that are evil, not the individual citizens
Bull. Erdogan was elected by the citizens.
>super right wing president
Who continued Obama's policies. >now they have a super left wing president
Who continues Trump's policies. They are neither super nor wing. They are politicians.
>Bull. Erdogan was elected by the citizens.
By that logic all citizens are responsible for the actions of their evil governments since they should overthrow them, but they don't. Which is a position you can hold I guess, that was how Osama Bin Laden saw things and why he considered terrorism to be justifiable.
>super left wing president
Burgers are lucky if that's their "super left wing". The left has been ruining the rest of the world way harder.
Well, except for Commiefornia I guess, but I guess that's not on him.
We don't watch it for the animation.
Although we just hope Amazon gives them a fricking budget by the time we get to the Conquest fight.
Kirkman already stated that Invincible has a lower than average episode budget compared to other animated shows. Add on to the fact that they're always using licensed music and each episode is 44 minutes long, it's actually shocking the whole thing isn't a Powerpoint presentation.
This is a big reason why capes work so well if you're trying to cut corners with animation. Just having a cape flowing would make the sliding drawing seem like it has life to it and gives the illusion of more animation than there is. And it takes nothing to do like, a 5 or 6 drawing loop of a cape. Most freshman animators can do that in 30 to 60 minutes.
egyptians slaves had to pay 20% of their income to phaorohs. most 'free' western countries pay over 50% income tax, sales tax, provincial/state tax, environmental tax, etc.
and chinese use slaves allt he time. uyghur camps, walled off cities, nets to catch suicide jumpers and put back to work, etc. green energy companies use slaves to mine radioactive and toxic rare earth metals, lithium, etc in africa. no one cares.
why would anyone give two fricks if some traced 3d model for a shitty amazon cartoon was made in north korea.
There are more slaves alive today then during the peak of both the trans Atlantic slave trade and arab slave trade
Global Economies are bad for workers.
Correct. There is no way to have things now that aren't made by some form of slave labor. Except maybe growing your own food and hunting. You can buy used so at least you aren't directly supporting it, but in the end, someone did for it to be used.
Imagine having art skills and doing your best on a job just for some american morons to throw a shitfit and get you fired because you're in a certain country >UHHH...I HACKED YOUR SERVER FOR NO REASON B-BUT YOU'RE IN THE WRONG CHUD, YOU DON'T GET TO WORK
That's hardly news.
There has been talk for years about norks drawing animation cells for different animation companies.
Heck, there's a comic book about a guy who was working in North Korea and witnessing that stuff first hand.
North Korea is far more free than the South. They had a higher standard of living too until the 70s-80s when the US and Japan hit them with crippling sanctions and massively invested in the South
>virtually all western consumer goods are made in sweatshops in China, a totalitarian one party state that violently oppresses its people, has no freedom of speech and sends entire ethnic groups to reeducation camps >OMG THIS WAS MADE IN NORTH KOREA
Do these people ever stop to listen to themselves?
https://thedirect.com/article/invincible-tv-race-bending-characters >When Season 1 came out, you discussed some changes made to the series in terms of diversity of the characters: Mark being Korean American for example, and Amber being Black. Representation on screen has been talked about so much since then — how much of that was on your mind when you were working on Season 2?
>Kirkman: That's something that's been really important to us. We have to recognize that a couple of dumb white guys made this comic book in the early 2000s. And there was a real lack of diversity in that series. And also, with the Invincible character himself, we talked to fans at all the conventions and places we would go, and because his ethnicity was ambiguous in the comics, everyone identified with him. We would have Filipino fans come up and say, I'm so excited that you made Mark Filipino, we would have Mexican fans come up and say, we're so excited that you made Mark Mexican. And it was just amazing to see how important representation is on a personal level when you're face-to-face with a person.
>you WILL accept that all your cartoons will become either gravity falls carlarts or family guy style so it makes our jobs easier >Also NO MORE 2D animated movies! Multimillionaire studios can't afford to pay people who can draw, i don't care if there is people out there doing furry porn on Twitter that looks better than our output >Oh! But we will still outsource 90% of our work to South Korea. Animation is hard, chud! >Actually... South Korea is too expensive! They've been asking for rights and shit lately! Lets move it to the north so literal slave labor can make our inclusive and progressive shows!
Every corporate executive who talks out of their asses using surface level morality to get away with deep unethical practices. Not unlike that Oceangate CEO who used DEI as an excuse to NOT hire qualified people because he is cheap.
I'd rather outsource everything to Japan. They at least know how to make shit that's popular, and the quality rarely gets as bad as what's in Invincible.
Japs will just outsource it to Flips or Chinks or Koreans themselves. I swear you people still think they put out quality like the mid 80s OVAs. When in reality, its more like this
This
To top this they outsource even to south america sometimes. The actual jap animators get low wage too, working as an animator now is very unappealing, in general, so outsourced labor is the way to go. I woldnt be surpised if illustrators who draw for games get more than animators too. Its a really bad time to be an animator as the skill req is high and the pay is low. The demand for anime is extremely high only because its essentially a 20 minute ad for merch, as anime itself does not make money.
>You helped fund slavery
Yes we all own electronic devices, we all drink soda and eat chocolate anon. All of those things fund slavery, congratulations you just discovered what powers capitalism.
North Koreans gotta eat too
No no. North Koreans no matter how innocent they are must die because of ther birth location.
Your really think any resources we send over there actually go to the citizens?
i fricking hate koreans so much
That's sorta the thing being debated.
Are they actually eating or is this just pure slave labor?
slaves also eat
esl?
Just send them more dogs.
Do they really need to eat though?
I don't fund anything, I pirate.
Chad pirate.
Based and same. Pirate, if you like it and it exists on physical, buy it, preferably used. Unless it's a smaller band I like, then I actually try to buy it from them.
The morally correct choice, every time.
Thieves!!!
wow outsourcing to third world shitholes? I've never seen that happen before.
Fan fact, megamind 2 was animated mostly in india
best asia
Juche gang rise up
EVERYBODY WORK
WE ARE SLAAAAAVES
holy shit full circle
Big mean rat whip us!
>outsourcing to sweatshops
>make a couple trailers telling people that "animation is hard and takes time"
>animation is a powerpoint slideshow and most of the voice actors dont even give enough of a frick to shit out a half decent performance barring jk Simmons
just read the comics, it probably has more frames than the animation at this point...and there wont be multi year intervals between seasons and "mid-season finales"
>You helped fund slavery
Good, I love slavery.
Also when is North Korea getting back to Squirrel and Hedgehog, I want more Lt. Vixen.
Is funny the Confederates were invoking the Founding Father as to why they need to leave and make the states when they would have made George Washington last well in Testament in legal.( he said in his will get he wanted his slaves to be free when he died doing that would be illegal in the Confederacy)
His personal slaves, most of the slaves belonged to his wife.
Washington married into wealth.
What he have been able to have his wife slaves released?Also doesn't change the fact that it would be a nice gesture get the Confederacy would have made against the law.
Robert E Lee was also in the process of freeing his Father in laws slaves.
The issue was that he could not afford to both free all the slaves, pay off all the debts, and provide the endowments specified in the Will.
He was another one who married into a wealthy family
Your crappy English almost gave me an aneurism.
>Also when is North Korea getting back to Squirrel and Hedgehog, I want more Lt. Vixen.
This. WHERE IS IT
Eh, first season is free with commercials on Freevee anyway. If the rest follows (super)suit I won't be funding shit.
Over half the shit you own is manufactured off slave labor. You just look at this and act surprised so you can feel better
Oh no, better hop on my new iPhone and tell everyone
remember people, it's the governments that are evil, not the individual citizens that just want to watch(and make) cartoons
A few years ago america had a super right wing president, and now they have a super left wing president, and yet I assume you, whatever political position you believe in, haven't changed their opinion during that time?
>a super left wing president
In what way
One of them supported israel, the other one also supported israel but is different party. Democracy is hard choices 😀
He's flooding the country with illegals, classrooms with trannies and NPR with radical woke leftists.
>super left wing president
lol. lmoa. rofl
Any actual left died with occupy. All we have left now is the bloated corpse of corporate liberalism.
Leftists supported communism back in the day. They were always vermin.
by that notion rightists are vermin as well since they supported monarchism back in the day.
Monarchs are better than any form of democracy or communism. A brutal tyrant can be deposed. A benevolant tyrant is fine. Mob rule is always the worst form of government and easily corrupted and controlled. You can pull a tyrant out of a tower. You cant stop army of useful idiots ensuring the destruction of your entire way of life 'for your own good'.
I agree but only if we also break up into small, homogeneous ethnostates.
>super left wing president
Black person, you wish we had an actual socialist DemSoc president,
instead you got a centrist third-way boomer president.
This. He supports a bunch of shit pushed by billionaires and upper middle class college educated people. What class solidarity.
>A few years ago america had a super right wing president, and now they have a super left wing president
literally wrong on two fronts
>super right wing president
absolutely not, trump was center-right incarnate, don't disrespect the actual, hard-working american nazis by comparing them to a mincing fancy lad in a bathrobe b***hing about celebrities on twitter.
>super left-wing president
You'd know if we ever had a super left-wing president because the richest of the rich would be being tried in the Hague for crimes against humanity. Biden is ALSO center-right, because both of them are puppets of the capitalist class who prefer stagnant corporate hegemony over any forward motion, left or right.
>the governments that are evil, not the individual citizens
Bull. Erdogan was elected by the citizens.
>super right wing president
Who continued Obama's policies.
>now they have a super left wing president
Who continues Trump's policies. They are neither super nor wing. They are politicians.
>Bull. Erdogan was elected by the citizens.
By that logic all citizens are responsible for the actions of their evil governments since they should overthrow them, but they don't. Which is a position you can hold I guess, that was how Osama Bin Laden saw things and why he considered terrorism to be justifiable.
>and now they have a super left wing president
We didn't elect Bernie, moron.
>Super right wing president
>Super left wing president
Extremely wrong on both accounts.
>super left wing president
Burgers are lucky if that's their "super left wing". The left has been ruining the rest of the world way harder.
Well, except for Commiefornia I guess, but I guess that's not on him.
Your ancestors were poor white mountain trash the rich wealthy elite sent to die so they could continue to not hire you and use blacks as free labor
American commierage article, this has existed for decades.
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Creator/SEKStudio
better than funding South Korea, at least
Networks are still buying kdramas
But enough about Amazon Prime.
Makes sense now
People watch this shit?
We don't watch it for the animation.
Although we just hope Amazon gives them a fricking budget by the time we get to the Conquest fight.
Kirkman already stated that Invincible has a lower than average episode budget compared to other animated shows. Add on to the fact that they're always using licensed music and each episode is 44 minutes long, it's actually shocking the whole thing isn't a Powerpoint presentation.
>I must go now, Viltrum needs me.
Animation is hard okay, it takes time for those Korean sweatshop animators to drag PNGs across the screen, stop being entitled
Oh shit is there a new Aqua Teen Hunger Force?
And this is an Amazon show? Guess I don't need to watch it any more.
except the show referenced using poor animation to save money and since they made a joke about it you're not allowed to be critical of it, chud!
>Literally dragging PNGs across the screen
Jesus Christ.
I can practically see the mouse cursor, someone should edit a little mouse cursor into those kinds of gifs
This is a big reason why capes work so well if you're trying to cut corners with animation. Just having a cape flowing would make the sliding drawing seem like it has life to it and gives the illusion of more animation than there is. And it takes nothing to do like, a 5 or 6 drawing loop of a cape. Most freshman animators can do that in 30 to 60 minutes.
That or they could have him clenching his butt cheeks
>To animate in north korea, you'd have to be
is there a way for me to donate to it directly?
egyptians slaves had to pay 20% of their income to phaorohs. most 'free' western countries pay over 50% income tax, sales tax, provincial/state tax, environmental tax, etc.
and chinese use slaves allt he time. uyghur camps, walled off cities, nets to catch suicide jumpers and put back to work, etc. green energy companies use slaves to mine radioactive and toxic rare earth metals, lithium, etc in africa. no one cares.
why would anyone give two fricks if some traced 3d model for a shitty amazon cartoon was made in north korea.
what if i told you that even North Koreans themselves subcontract their own shit to even poorer shittier countries?
And what countries could be worse than North Korea
Like where? They already have their own sizeable studio. Also the leaks showed them communicating back and forth with china only
Wonder where they subcontract animation to.
Well, at least now we know the true answer to East Vs West.
It doesn't matter, as any and all products involving Best Korea shine above both
i literally don’t care
I thought everyone knew about this.
I thought the sweatshops were in south korea tbh.
South Korean wages got too high, if you can believe it.
This but I also read
Which plainly pointed out how easily any industry could use NK labor for cheap and why they would do it.
>Kirkman is a slavedriver
[laughs in Big Two]
IT'S ONLY OK WHEN THE FRENCH DO IT
Nothing the french do is ok
How else are North Koreans supposed to watch cartoons where the bad guy is an imperialistic shit?
Didn't this get renewed for like 3 more seasons?
why not simply have a contract that prevents sub-contracting?
that way you can prevent having a telephone game situation like this.
>Help overworked artists by legally watching the show
>Help slaves by pirating
Which one is it?
>plagiarism is literally fascist
... Well, shit.
Literally everything you buy funds slavery.
Correct. There is no way to have things now that aren't made by some form of slave labor. Except maybe growing your own food and hunting. You can buy used so at least you aren't directly supporting it, but in the end, someone did for it to be used.
There are more slaves alive today then during the peak of both the trans Atlantic slave trade and arab slave trade
As it should be
Slavery is based
Regardless of the race
It's a truth we have to face
We can't let it go to waste
Because slavery is BASED
Global Economies are bad for workers.
Imagine having art skills and doing your best on a job just for some american morons to throw a shitfit and get you fired because you're in a certain country
>UHHH...I HACKED YOUR SERVER FOR NO REASON B-BUT YOU'RE IN THE WRONG CHUD, YOU DON'T GET TO WORK
AI is going to replace everybody anyway so who cares?
Just the creative work and rich people "work".
That's hardly news.
There has been talk for years about norks drawing animation cells for different animation companies.
Heck, there's a comic book about a guy who was working in North Korea and witnessing that stuff first hand.
North Korea is far more free than the South. They had a higher standard of living too until the 70s-80s when the US and Japan hit them with crippling sanctions and massively invested in the South
Honestly suspected this shit with how inconsistent the animation was and anotherCinemaphile work whose very plot was on artist slave labor.
Why is outsourcing to South Korea ethical, but when you do it with the North it is a crime against humanity?
Depends on the work conditions
I can almost hear the silly sound effects
Like little falling bombs
They really made one crow and at best mirrored it
I don't give a quarter of a frick about Cringevincible or anything else that comes out of Amazon
Not me, I don’t pay for streaming shit.
>You helped fund slavery
WTF. And I msssedout? BRB getting amazon prime.
>You helped fund slavery
I helped fund a shining beacon of communism
Thank me troony
thank you, daddy
Better than Hell Joseon AKA Worst Korea
Skybound and Skydance both strike me as garbage Chinese money laundering operations.
I just want more squirrel and hedgehog
She cute
>virtually all western consumer goods are made in sweatshops in China, a totalitarian one party state that violently oppresses its people, has no freedom of speech and sends entire ethnic groups to reeducation camps
>OMG THIS WAS MADE IN NORTH KOREA
Do these people ever stop to listen to themselves?
You're giving away jobs overseas
>Muh hypocrisy
Literally every human being is a hypocrite
Anyone who replies is seething
Ooooh sexy pancakes
And what are you saying? That since every human is a hypocrite, that means we should not care about ethics and play their game to get ahead?
Yes
https://thedirect.com/article/invincible-tv-race-bending-characters
>When Season 1 came out, you discussed some changes made to the series in terms of diversity of the characters: Mark being Korean American for example, and Amber being Black. Representation on screen has been talked about so much since then — how much of that was on your mind when you were working on Season 2?
>Kirkman: That's something that's been really important to us. We have to recognize that a couple of dumb white guys made this comic book in the early 2000s. And there was a real lack of diversity in that series. And also, with the Invincible character himself, we talked to fans at all the conventions and places we would go, and because his ethnicity was ambiguous in the comics, everyone identified with him. We would have Filipino fans come up and say, I'm so excited that you made Mark Filipino, we would have Mexican fans come up and say, we're so excited that you made Mark Mexican. And it was just amazing to see how important representation is on a personal level when you're face-to-face with a person.
Left has the better body but right has the better face
The green eyes really pop out in the TV show, it does something... instinctive to me
The worst thing about this design is that they ruined their logo.
>We have to recognize that a couple of dumb white guys made this comic book in the early 2000s
>everyone identified with mark because he was ambiguous, so we made him korean
Genius
thought the same thing, it's hilarious how completely lacking self-awareness people are when they say shit like this
>tfw we're now out-classed by Best koreans.
Why are filipinos like this?!
rent free
why are you like this?
U mad?
>he pays for media
>you WILL accept that all your cartoons will become either gravity falls carlarts or family guy style so it makes our jobs easier
>Also NO MORE 2D animated movies! Multimillionaire studios can't afford to pay people who can draw, i don't care if there is people out there doing furry porn on Twitter that looks better than our output
>Oh! But we will still outsource 90% of our work to South Korea. Animation is hard, chud!
>Actually... South Korea is too expensive! They've been asking for rights and shit lately! Lets move it to the north so literal slave labor can make our inclusive and progressive shows!
who are you quoting
Every corporate executive who talks out of their asses using surface level morality to get away with deep unethical practices. Not unlike that Oceangate CEO who used DEI as an excuse to NOT hire qualified people because he is cheap.
I'd rather outsource everything to Japan. They at least know how to make shit that's popular, and the quality rarely gets as bad as what's in Invincible.
You think Japan will give us cheap labor? Japan literally still think that they are the best Asian country their services are not cheap.
They are the best Asian country, South Korea sucks.
Japs will just outsource it to Flips or Chinks or Koreans themselves. I swear you people still think they put out quality like the mid 80s OVAs. When in reality, its more like this
cope
This
To top this they outsource even to south america sometimes. The actual jap animators get low wage too, working as an animator now is very unappealing, in general, so outsourced labor is the way to go. I woldnt be surpised if illustrators who draw for games get more than animators too. Its a really bad time to be an animator as the skill req is high and the pay is low. The demand for anime is extremely high only because its essentially a 20 minute ad for merch, as anime itself does not make money.
I doubt that's what actually happened.
What's your take on it?
Wasn't there a literal comic some cartoonist made about working on an animation project where most of the grunt work was done by Norks?
Is this news?
Nah, they were paid. In meat. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSVbO8ZoTDI
they b***h about ai taking their jobs and they don’t even do their jobs
frick artists
What else is new? That's what people do.
>You helped fund slavery
Yes we all own electronic devices, we all drink soda and eat chocolate anon. All of those things fund slavery, congratulations you just discovered what powers capitalism.
Noo how dare NK exist why can't they be peaceful democracy like Saudis
Yes, precisely
They also use slaves.
Viva LaLiga
So we can finally admit that this adaptation for Invincible is mediocre?
Adaptation is fine. It's the source material that's the problem.
I didnt watch a stick of this shit
they canceled the tick after two seasons to make room for this??
Tick was canceled like a decade ago wasn't it?
6 years..?
last thing worth watching on that channel
yoooo like in my favorite comic PYONYANG, epic reference amazon
Was it just invincible or did the North Korean animating Gulag work on anything else?
>abnoys seething thanks to Best Korea malding at them.
Its so fun to poke at them.
>Amazon Prime Video
you signed up for supporting slavery before this series was produced