America was founded on the principle of yelling your argument and not letting any form of debate happen against it.
You know for years I thought this was Captain Hydra America talking.
America was founded on the principle of yelling your argument and not letting any form of debate happen against it.
>America was founded on the principle of yelling your argument and not letting any form of debate happen against it.
No, clown. That's the last few generations and the shit country people who think like that turned America into.
America was founded when a few great minds came together and sought to create something greater than themselves, a new nation where man was good to his neighbor and all could thrive.
But it's fricking ruined. It's all just fricking ruined. America truly used to be great, but the people saying they want to make it great again can't even comprehend why it was great to begin with. Frick this gay world to hell.
>a new nation where man was good to his neighbor and all could thrive
*But also it was fine to own humans as property.
Obviously it wasn't perfect but doing away with slavery was about the only improvement on America then compared to now, in almost all other ways it has massively declined.
Rape and homosexuality laws and law before will be Roe v Wadewas overturned?
What a larp
>*But also it was fine to own humans as property.
ignore that the rest of the world had slaves.
Why do morons point this out as if it was some kind of gotcha? It was still an evil practice that people fought against back then, abolitionists arent a new modern concept.
Not all slavery even if you don't include the upsetness of that slavery what equal and the United States was among the most bigoted of them all and was getting noticeably was in the south.
literally every empire that ever existed used slaves, African nations being the most brutal of them all. Eurotrash will try to absolve themselves of their role in this bullshit but the fundamental fact is that slavery ended less than 100 years into America's existence as a nation. We had major civil rights movements that culminated in the late 60s and an African American president 232 years into the nation's history. The fact is that the level social progressivism of the USA has never been seen anywhere else in the world.
Until the Nixon administration we were Rome 2 but somehow even better than that.
You might want to look at some of the countries younger than the United States .
name a global power empire that never used slaves.
There is like less than 10 global power empireand and if you look at the ones get all around today they're not using slavery while being a global power empire
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Oh but they are, anon, they just use slaves in a more colonial sense. Not a single imperial power has existed without the use of slaves at one point in time and not a single imperial power besides America was able to successfully do away with the system within 100 years of its' existence.
Okay you're going from global power empire to Imperial power not the same thing.
You say that like it's a bad thing.
Owning people isnt all its cracked up to be. Its like a pet with more responsibility
>Its like a pet with more responsibility
Is a evil thing.
>abloo bloo things were better and they knew what they were doing!
War of 1812 says otherwise
>Brits sucker punching the US economically before they even stabilized an economy is somehow proof of them not knowing what they were doing
The US wasn't even a real country yet and the war still ended as a draw. If you look at things long term it basically broke the British occupational capabilities in that region going forward.
That war ended with a decisive exit
Canada still existed and was still British and the British were dealing with Napoleon at the time which is how the war got started not to mention the White House got burned down.And I want an exactly call not being a real country when your country is 25 years old.Not to mention that United States fought they would take over Canada.
Slavery wasn't a thing in every country at the exact same time not to mention by the time slavery was ended in the United States it was a hell of a lot less common in many parts of the world than when the United States began.I mean Wolverines of Veteran of the civil war because of I don't like slavery that Mr Mutant Canadian.
>a new nation where man was good to his neighbor and all could thrive
Shut the frick up.
You left england because they were only jailing gays instead of killing them and women were showing too much of their ankle.
Im tired of this sanitized judeo-american history where you dindu nuffin
Lmfao, delusional homosexual
Post above is mine btw
Learn a little bit of the fricked up shit it did through history even 200 years back and then come back
Already answered
Did the country start off perfect? No. But it was continually getting better for generations. It's only recently that it's started to slide backwards, no more progress, rights being taken away, clown rhetoric replacing logic and reason.
Bear in mind that while America has those shameful points in history, it was also proud Americans who stood up and did was right and made changes toward progress. It was Americans who fought to end slavery, it was Americans who fought for workers' rights, it was Americans who stood for women, it was those Americans who truly believed in liberty and juice for all and transformed America into the greatest nation in the history of the world.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alien_and_Sedition_Acts
>It was Americans who fought to end slavery
Great Britain abolished slavery before the US did, among others.
>it was Americans who fought for workers' rights
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labor_Day#Labor_Day_versus_May_Day
>it was Americans who stood for women
Australia, Canada, New Zealand, and Great Britain all passed women's suffrage earlier.
>it was those Americans who truly believed in liberty and juice for all and transformed America into the greatest nation in the history of the world
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_involvement_in_regime_change
Hey, cool it with the anti-semitism Cap
It's okay to like Captain America as a character even if you can lay down an entire bible's worth of grievances against the United States, and it's okay to acknowledge that the US can, and has, generally speaking with some distinct notable exceptions, gotten better over time and learned some hard lessons.
Clearly, the proper response to OP is to YELL AT HIM TO DIE, EAT BANHAMMER, SHUT THE FRICK UP, LURK THE FRICK MORE, GET YOUR ASS BACK TO R/ OR whateve.r
I suspect that this thread is just a poorly veiled attempt to dump pol garbage here, and anons should respond by NOT using the post button, but the other one.
He's talking to Spider-Man during his usual pity party. Again, Cinemaphile never cares for context and likes to come up with their own narrative to push.
Contacts are not what Captain America is saying in the image sounds way more like belief in fascism than any form of democracy. I know it's from Civil War the original one but if someone's justification for the actions is they're making a speech like this that's got to make you worry.
If you totally neglect the context of his entire speech, the person he's quoting, general ideas on what true democracy is....yeah...sure totally fascist. Democracy means cowtowing to mob rule no matter what, letting people get locked up in an extrajudicial prison without a trial for unclear offenses is what Democracy is all about, and if you don't like it your a heckin' nazerino.
OP is using the standard "use an out of context panel as cover for shitflinging about real world politics or whatever else he wants to vent about" strategy. Most messages can be twisted to be positive or negative or fit whatever narrative.
In that case, now's a good time to give that context and let others come to their own conclusion. Only 6 pages.
I just don't see Steve giving this speech to Red Skull or Mephisto. Not even Shocker.
The end.
And you're god damn right, the more you come to realize that the founding fathers were younger than 20 and basically making the amendments like some bros making up rules for their "totally wicked freedom frat" the more everything makes sense
"Debate" is not a good thing, you fedora-tipping autist.