>you're just not asking the right questions
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>why did I sub for this?
>what was even the point?
>I didn't even like the first season that much.
Okay, the last one wasn't a question.
>why did I sub for this?
The fact that I share a board with zoomers who don't know how to torrent is even worse than this trash show.
Yeah, I hate zoomers too, but I'm not a poorgay, so subbing isn't the issue here.
I just had higher hopes, is all.
Torrenting shows directly through qbtorrent is less hassle than subscribing and navigating stream service menus tbh senpai.
No, it isn't. But more importantly, why would you waste your time on something that isn't worth money?
shut up gay go pay for netflix and act like that makes you a baller lol
>No, it isn't
That's a matter of opinion. Streaming services are getting lazier and shitty again. As the very wise Gabe Newell said, piracy only thrives when it becomes more convenient than actual paid distributors.
>piracy only thrives when it becomes more convenient than actual paid distributors.
also if it's actually worth the price, people will usually pay it. (hbo)max just hiked up it's price while putting out nothing but dogshit for over a year. all these other streaming services are doing the exact same or trying to introduce intrusive ads. I dropped all my subs a few weeks ago. suck my dick streaming services
t. born in the 2000s
>torrent
we find illegal streams now, old man
>streaming
We used to mock you gays back in my day, runt.
Yeah but ever since like...whatever fricking year Juno dropped and make Ellen Page popular streaming this shit just feels like the norm, man.
use stremio with the torrentio addon and you can stream torrents. it's neat. go on lad, this one's on me.
Shine on soul brother.
why download when i wont rewatch? no reason to clog my harddrive with movies...
>we find illegal streams now, old man
Those illegal streams are just sequential torrent downloads anon wrapped into package that zoomer mind can understand.
no, at least in my country streaming doesnt count as downloading legally (dont ask me the specifics, im not a lawyer)
that means im NOT making an illegal copy and i can NOT be dragged to court and sentenced for pirating (which happens with torrenters in my country when you dont use a paid VPN)
so either i pay for VPN and torrent, or i could simply stream
i wont ever pay for pirated content in any way or form (be it filehosters or vpn), frick that shit
The black woman in this is so uppity it's unbearable.
I wanted to see her get fricking destroyed on screen. Just have a large man take her to town and beat her fricking face in.
That literally happened, though.
I don't want her to get back up, anon. Not without learning a lesson.
>Mfw a bunch of dumpy native women standing in a kitchen trying to look tough after the granny basically admits they mob justiced the scientists
>blame white people for your babies dying, instead of your literal witchdoctor birthing center
>destroy literally decades of research that probably would have saved thousands if not millions in New medical science
>"ooga booga white man give us back our snow"
This is probably one of the dumbest fricking pieces of media ever made.
This. This season perfectly shows everything that wrong with modern media today
It actually unironically highlights the problematic mentality of modern tribal communities and how they ultimately care only for themselves even if it's at the detriment of everyone else and pretty much bite the hand that feeds them.
You wish. It’s all ooga booga white man caused all our problems. Bunch cleaning snow Black folk out smart scientist and murder them all we’re all suppose to be “justice”
it would have been kinda interesting to see how the city adjusted to the mine closing, as from what I can tell it was economically really significant. But that would have questioned too many of the topics and have been uncomfrtubirbrele and we just can't have that. Our murder story has to end happily.
But it literally has YASSS QWEEN SLAY! so it's good.
They directly admit to the poisoning
you forgot something
>instead of trying to make the mine to comply to the regulations make the mine to close
>with the only jobs source gone, everybody starts to leave
>skimos are so used to civiliszation they leave too
>there is no more annis
we did it patrick, we saved the town
I just wish it had been reverse. A bunch of White blue collar workers had forced some stem minority women at gun point to run into the snow naked for protecting their research that would greatly benefit humanity.
is that messi
Is her entire gimmick based off this?
tell me, detective spooner. Do you know the difference between a black man, and a Black person?
One of his weirdly more pleasant roles despite being dead
we don't have police grandmas in my country
Sheriffs are voted in. Even women don’t want a woman sheriff
>you're just not posting the right images
that's a child
A child who was gangbanged by producers until she hated men.
>wants to stay in Hollywood
>see that it's all literal skin trading and prostitution and blackmail
>stay anyway, but she changes her life course and never has children and hates men
Sad soul. Hot as frick in Taxi Cab. I'll be damned if those legs weren't getting eye fricked and felt up at every opportunity.
is that the season 1 quote from the finale
Yes, and it's not the only one.
did u get up and clap as it happened
it's from I Robot
>He's right behind me, isn't he?
Hey look grandma is playing make believe cop again.
Just finished watching it
god it fricking SUCKED from beginning to end
>episode 1 has me intrigued
>some weird semi-feminist bullshit but still intriguing
>same with episode 2
>every episode after just gets worse and worse
>all the intrigue is gone
I don't think I even want to finish it to see how it ends.
You don’t, first 2 was decent, 3rd was the second worst, finally somehow out did it.
I thought 3rd wasn't bad, in that it was introspective about aging and memory and time, and how not everyone is a hardcase like Rust who doggedly pursues to the bitter end. Sometimes things end in quiet, unremembered tragedy and that is both very real and very sad.
Meant the 3rd episode of season 4, not the 3rd season. 3rd season was second best, I liked it except for the fricking Big Lewbowski ending of nothing they did mattered one iota.
which screenshot shows the true detectives?
Navarro's face perfectly sums up my opinion about this season.
the true detective was inside you all along
I’m pretty sure Pete did 95% of the detective work in the show. He even discovered the botched suicide coverup. The big “aha!” moment was Danvers remembering what fingerprints are
>Suddenly the junior of the visiting detectives, an Eskimo with a hatefully Black face, ignored the fact that a lynch mob of locals had committed mass murder on flimsy, circumstantial evidence at best
Does the ugly black woman have face piercings so she can larp as Native?
she just wears that shit in real life, the production crew probably didn't bother to tell her that wearing shit like that in the snow is fricking moronic so they built it into her character
Stop. Trying. To. Control. BIPOC. Bodies.
She's from a real unrecognized injun tribe of larpers
>women
Hard pass
gee, Billy, FOUR resting b***h faces in my True Detective show?
The only interesting part of this was the pile of frozen corpses. Once they stopped dealing with the frozen corpse pile it had nothing left for me
I liked this season, particularly the final episode. Not as strong as the pizzalato seasons, but still, pretty good.
imdb ratings are not very good anon
That's not my problem.
didnt say it was. i was just suggesting you might have low standards
i will give them props for two things. six episodes. season one two and three were all 8 episodes. so kudos to them for not making 2 more episodes of filler crap just to hit the mark. and secondly, and this is me really reaching.. eh you know what frick it
Who took Annie’s tongue out, Clark or papa Prior? I feel the obvious answer is Clark, but why did he do it and why did he put it there
There is no answer because the dumbass writer either couldn't think of an answer or had just forgotten about it
>ITS LE HECKIN DEEP MYSTERY
>LIFE HAS LE UNSOLVED QUESTIONS
It’s possible it’s the proof the ghost world is real, combined with Clark freaking out that Annie is back before the power is even cut.
the actor who played hank wanted to save the shitshow and went around saying he did it.
writter was pissed but had to go along because actor already said it.
but she said that in her vision, actually cleaning ladies did it to preserve the memory, and they later dumped it on the floor "as a sign"
https://slate.com/culture/2024/02/true-detective-season-4-night-country-finale-ending-explained.html
He was so wronged it is insane
Not really, he was a dirty cop but not even for vigilante reasons, just for money. He got what he deserved
This
Danvers and Navarro murder people and cover it up and let people get away with murder... wtf do you mean?
Right, but you can at least say they did it for some kind of justice, that’s what vigilante means
Why is nobody discussing him at all. He chose to give his life to protect a secret that was meaningless to him.
Loyalty and honor are male constructs.
>Why were the scientists all frozen together with terrified expressions?
>Why was the spiral symbol for ice caves drawn randomly at so many places related to the case?
>Why was the video of the girl's murder completely different from the murder confession?
>How exactly did mining pollution make it easier to take ice core samples?
>Why were the scientists doing all their research in a secret underground chamber?
>How did the cleaning ladies storm the lab with 20 people without leaving any physical evidence?
>Why did the mine want to kill the drug addict guy instead of just putting some security guards at the cave?
>Why was the mine covering up the murder in the first place when they weren't even involved?
Wrong questions.
The real question should be: How can we empower women more?
The right question is: Why did you even watch this season?
Morbid curiosity
Because reasons.
>>Why were the scientists all frozen together with terrified expressions?
The goddess/mother nature judged them and killed them all. Think of it like the girl from Ringu.
>>Why was the spiral symbol for ice caves drawn randomly at so many places related to the case?
Writer's answer: because it's a local symbol for the Night Country and also a warning against bad juju or something
Real answer: there are spirals on victims/cult members in season 1
>>Why was the video of the girl's murder completely different from the murder confession?
Writer's answer: it's a mystery or unreliable narrator or something
Real answer: incompetence in the continuity department
>>How exactly did mining pollution make it easier to take ice core samples?
Trust the science
>>Why were the scientists doing all their research in a secret underground chamber?
Because they were evil and needed to hide it
>>How did the cleaning ladies storm the lab with 20 people without leaving any physical evidence?
They cleaned up after themselves
>>Why did the mine want to kill the drug addict guy instead of just putting some security guards at the cave?
He spoke to Clark or something I don't know frick you
>>Why was the mine covering up the murder in the first place when they weren't even involved?
The mining company was evil because it was polluting and capitalist and therefore obviously would be happy to cover up murders for profit or something
Chuddie, not all questions needs a answer.
issa please
White people BAD. White men especially BAD.
Women GOOD. Ethnic women especially GOOD.
This is all the reasoning that went into this show, dont bother trying to read in any further.
>women good
Danvers is a homewrecker and the other one is literally a murderer
Yes hence they arent especially GOOD like the ethnic ones. Its a clear woke hierarchy, The other one only murdered out of good intentions.
Meanwhile the only good white dude on the show is forced to kill his own loving father, like some sick sadistic ritual that you have to take in order to be an ally to these people.
The ethnic men? Barely shown, yea they got the race card but the director cant have too much positive masculinity. The best ethnic dude is used as a cumdump by the female trooper.
>the good white dude is so good he would rather kill his evil dad then join him
>let me try and spin this as a bad thing so I can keep being a victim
the only good white dude on the show is forced to kill his own loving father, like some sick sadistic ritual that you have to take in order to be an ally to these people.
That exactly what Issa Lopez meant to show, it's all so moronic
>I mean, yes, he’s absolutely the moral compass. He’s the uncorrupted one at the beginning of the story. But the truth is, it is a cop story. And I don’t think there is a simple way to be a cop in this world, if ever there was. And imparting justice, if that’s the function of the police, cannot be black and white. We’ve seen it over and over again. He’s a baby cop and he’s trying to become a full-fledged one. And he’s doing it by asking the right questions and getting the training as a detective. He’s not a full fledged cop until he has baptism by blood and it’s his own blood. Now, from a Freudian perspective, from a Greek tragedy perspective, there is an old human tradition that to become an adult you have to kill your parents. It’s a very primal image, but it’s behind so many modern conflicts. I took it a little literal in this case. He does have to break with the pain and the corruption and the dark emotions that Hank [John Hawkes] is asking him to connect with. He’s not that person. Peter makes a decision before any shots are fired and Hank understands that his life is over, everything is going to go downhill from there. Everything he did is going to be exposed. He knows he lost his child. So he raises the gun. And if you look carefully at the frame, Hank doesn’t have his finger on the trigger. He was not going to shoot Danvers, but he makes the gesture knowing that he’s going to go down.
https://deadline.com/2024/02/true-detective-night-country-creator-issa-lopez-explains-finale-1235827704
Not only does he kill his (loving) father but he also has to clean everything up like a janny and then play pretend with a thankless fatso, then dispose of the body. The only respite he gets is Rust's mom popping his lungs, an action which he doesn't need to do himself
His life is going to be hell
you are fricking moronic. have a nice day immediately
Because they're cops and therefore evil
>why is time a flat circle and not a volumetric sphere?
STOP ASKING THE RIGHT QUESTIONS CHUD
Last one could be explained because it would have inevitably exposed their fraudulent practices
1.maybe the avalanche reason was real, yeah this is probably dumb though.
2. because le spiral forced meme
3. actual unsure what you are referring to here. i suspect you are confused about something.
4. le science reasons. plot never has to be right/accurate about science, could you imagine if every piece of fiction media had to be?
5. because thats where the ice that they were researching was????? your first genuinely dumb question
6. they did leave physical evidence, how they didnt leave more is a good question
7. kinda cold outside bro.
8. they are relying on the scientists to support the environmental fakery for the mine.
my questions would be
-why the frick is the tongue there? the show basically just goes 'teehee who knows. magic!'. which frick that.
-why did the deer in the very first episode jump off the cliff, that soured my view of the show from the very beginning (though ultimately i didnt hate this season or even particularly dislike it, just has a lot wrong with it and could have been a lot better were it not for excess bullshit)
oh and let me add another
what the frick happened to that random native guy in the hut with the shotgun???? just fricked off leaving his soup to freeze?????
>-why the frick is the tongue there? the show basically just goes 'teehee who knows. magic!'. which frick that.
Only feasable explanation is the jannie ladies did this. Either as part of some injun ritual or to get Navarro to get involved since they considered her as part of the tribe and knew she'll switch into blodhound mode and crack the case, and it would be better if it was her who would do that rather then some crooked FRICKING WHITE MALE PIG.
they explicitly denied it though, and they had admitted everything else - so why lie about that part, besides, where the frick would they even get the tongue?
>they explicitly denied it though
Well no, not explicitly. It was done really ambiguously and they acted coyish about it.
>so why lie about that part
Terrible writing. You'd think that basically admitting mass murder would be much worse.
>where the frick would they even get the tongue
IIRC the body was discovered by natives.
>IIRC the body was discovered by natives.
you really think they would cut out her tongue to make a point years later? that would be rather crazy - and to me the character seemed genuinely rather shocked by the information.
not to say whether it is a 'racial issue' or not, but it certainly has happened more often in areas with higher populations of 'minorities' who have experienced historical injustice, and so they have been disproportionately impacted by it. i will not prescribe why this might be the case.
>to make a point years later
Not to make a point but as part of their stronk native woman hoodoo thing.
The show was written by AI
>Why did former scientist truned eskimoo hunter suddenly fled when he was asked question by the cops ?
>Was he even a scientist during the killing ?
>Why would he leave a stone marked with the circle ?
>Did the writer forget about him ?
>>Did the writer forget about him ?
This is a pretty obvious yes
Between this and Murder at the end of the world I now get hating feminists. What a awful awful season to what may have been the greatest show of all time.
Why did they give the entire show to a woman serving as writer, director and producer? Season 1 had Pizzolatto doing the writing, another man directing and so on. Generally you have to be some high IQ auteur to do everything and succeed at it.
why are you ghey?
I think she killed him personally, but the blind kid's testimony was always going to sway the jury whichever way he went with it.
yeah I wasn't very racist against eskimos but I can officially say I am now racist towards them.
Same, apparently the law is a mere suggestion to them, they have more faith in witchcraft than science and they are fine with murdering your entire family if they have circumstancial evidence of someone of your family hurting one of theirs. Imagine living in their country... they are clearly savages and im glad the white man took their land and almost eradicated them. We should finish the job imo, they dont belong in the modern world.
Alright someone spoil the plot for me, please. I wasn't going to watch this garbage, but I want to know how ridiculous the story was.
just play Alan Wake 2 instead
they did this entire story better in a video game
Besides, Alan Wake 2 is genuinely peak. This season of TD was the worst TV I've watched in my entire life, no exaggeration, and I have watched telenovelas and The Bold & The Beautiful amongst other things
>jodie foster, old woman detective
>some other black actor, feisty injun detective
>story opens with some guys in a research station dying. their bodies are all found in the snow, they are contorted and clawing at themselves, bleeding from the ears, burnt corneas, and all naked. some distance from the bodies are all their clothes, perfectly folded. some of the researchers have spiral tattoos on them
>jodie foster (danvers) and navarro (injun) investigate, find a tongue in the research base. tongue is from an old case of a native girl (annie) who got killed and her tongue was never found. navarro is obsessed with the annie case
>their only lead is one researcher who wasn't found dead at the site and went missing, so they look for him.
>researchers were trying to find some bacteria that gives you immortality, and that there's a mining company in the town dumping pollution
>white boi (peter) is a junior detective, helps danvers. strained relationship with his dad (hank, former police officer) and strained relationship with his wife because he keeps ignoring his family to follow danvers' orders
>eventually danvers and navarro find this guy (otis) who had similar injuries to the dead researchers
>try to get him to tell more but hank kills him, then peter kills hank (all happens in about a second) (hank is his father btw)
>only lead are some caves that otis told them about, where they think annie was killed
>they find the caves
>leads to secret base under the research facility they didnt find before
>they find clark, clark explains that the researchers all killed annie because she destroyed their research, then he commits suicide in the snow
>they search the area, find fignerprints of a hand with missing fingers, go find the girl then get an exposition dump from a bunch of women janitors about how they found out the researchers killed annie, so they formed a swat team to go and murder the researchers by forcing them out onto the ice with guns so they'd die
What the frick? Thank you for your effort post and for saving me hours of my life.
Awful, just awful.
some points i forgot to mention
>reason why they were clawing at themselves and had burnt corneas and bleeding ears
snow madness
>reason why they had spiral tattoos
it means thin ice
>reason why hank killed otis
he was paid by the mining company to do it, he also moved annies body after she died
>why was the tongue at the research base
apparently hank go there before the police did (doesn't make sense)
>everything else
all unresolved plot points. at the end of the finale danvers is talking to some other cops in an interrogation and just says "some questions are meant to be unanswered"
I'd also like to mention most of episodes 2-5 (there are 6 episodes) were completely meaningless. the entire story could probably have been told in ~2-3 episodes
I thought the spiral thing was pedo?
In season 1 it was pedo, in Night Country it's something that injuns draw on little rocks to indicate where thin ice is. Don't think too much about how that makes no sense at all.
it was in season 1, in this season it means "thin ice"
there was a lot of shit added just because it related to season 1. from my recollection
>travis cohle (rust's father) was namedropped
>tuttle namedropped in the form of some new megacorp (doesn't matter for the story)
>spiral (doesn't mean the same thing, just means thin ice here. why did they have tattoos of it? who knows)
>time is a flat circle (clark says this literally)
>This show, it's like an imitation of a show.
Not in the show, and I doubt in real life. It’s just that one schizo pol post.
>Not in the show, and I doubt in real life
Did you think Pizzaman just made it up for S1?
>Pizzaman
Oh man what the frick.
I kinda want to see the foot notes
I see so much schizo fake posts out there, kind of yea.
its a reference to something called a "spirangle", which was used a pedophile symbol so that pedophiles could identify eachother in the early days of the internet, there are many such symbols.
i have personally gone on the dark net to sleuth out different evils, i thought that it was my way of being some sort of independent journalist or detective. i found image boards that would blatently use all the code mentioned so far, and all the code established in the pizzagate wikileaks emails. what was so startling about the wikileaks emails when they came out, was how lazily they used the same code that pretty much all pedos use, they didn't make up their own code, too lazy and too arrogant i suppose.
https://memoryhold.substack.com/p/a-brief-guide-to-the-boylove-spirangle
This, this is exactly the schizo I’m talking about. Obama trafficked 8 yrold boys, the symbols told me.
is that the summary of what i said?
pedophile organizations have formally discussed that the spirangle is a symbol that identifies them to other potential pedophiles so they can network. i linked to an article explaining the evidence in my very post.
do you think that criminals maybe use a code? like how the mafia refers to the mafia as "this thing of ours" and murdering someone as "he's gotta go"? its not schizophrenic to understand that criminals use a coded language to disguise what they do, do you think they just blatantly say as such?
It’s pizzagate where you lost me.
why did that lose you?
normies always have inappropriate overreactions whenever this word get mentioned. I'm assuming there was a lot of media programming against it while it was happening.
That's not the schizo part
We're all aware that it's objectively true that it's a pedo symbol or code or whatever
It's the leaps and jumps in logic once all already know that which is the schizo part and how you people will have bullshit excuses every time for your confirmation biases
>if everyone knows the symbol why keep using it?
>"because you don't have the power to stop them"
>so what's the point of the symbol anyway if you never had the power to stop it?
>"it's to taunt everyone and show their power"
>so what's the point of even hiding it at all from the beginning then?
>"it's part of the ritual it has to be hidden"
>but if it has to be hidden then revealing the symbols does the opposite no?
>"no but blah blah blah"
It's all so fricking tiresome when you just have excuse after excuse of nothing but well maybe's when in reality you don't even know shit
i don't neccessarily presume that they continue to use the codes. since pizzagate i would assume that the high profile people who do child diddling probably finally did switch up the way they do it. and if there was any reluctance to switch it up its probably a combination of laziness and feeling untouchable, which doesn't neccessarily mean actually being untouchable, just feeling that way, so hubris.
>"whats the point of the symbol if you don't have the power to stop it"
we may have the power to stop it and some of them may just think that we don't, in any case, its probably more dangerous for them to just outright communicate that they are diddling kids then to use a code that while well known, still has more plausible deniability than just literally talking about diddling kids
the points you made are basically just a straw man argument you made with your self, the fact is that you first had an emotional reaction, which is aloofness, you feel like the people who speculate to this kind of stuff are beneath you and are stupid, and then you searched for logic to support your conclusion, rather then trying to find out why people actually believe this.
the logical fallacy that you have is that you start with needing a "why".
lets use an example, lets say you have camera footage of a homie stealing a candy bar, do i need to know why he stole the candy bar to speculate that he stole a candy bar if i can see on video that he stole a candy bar? do i need to speculate "well maybe he did it for his keeedz" or do i need to think "well maybe he's diabetic and his blood sugar was dangerously low"? no i can just see that he stole the candy bar and be like "it looks like he's stealing a candy bar".
like wise, this code is associated with pedophiles, and this code appears in peoples instagram posts, emails, pizza places, as well as other stuff that is weird and related to kids.
I suspect that many of these things (forms of socially unaccepted behaviour) wind down or change form when they become too visible. That is the case with forms of crime or unaccepted behaviour in general.
It's indicative of a normalgay experience that it couldn't occur to them through firsthand experience that people might speak using coded language, intentionally refrain from recording too much etc.
Particularly ironic on Cinemaphile, the home of internet racism for several years, with elaborate layers of memes and code for self-identification.
It's what criminals, gays, racists, spies, anyone who doesn't want the public to see what they're doing but who wants to function in society does.
If people have desires to do unaccepted stuff, they'll find ways, including through other people.
Here's the issue, my mind can be changed.
The existence or non existence of elite pedophile rings doesn't hinge on politics/religion/etc. it hinges on hard facts.
As long as real proof and empirical data that can't be misconstrued and doesn't require any leaps/fallacies/political views to believe in, then I'm onboard with anything.
New information that is correct should always be taken into consideration and rewrite or overwrite previous views if they are correct and better, that's just obvious.
I don't care about theories, but literal evidence to come out vindicating everything.
But for you, what would it take to change your mind?
Nothing, because you're not acting in good faith in a reasonably logical manner.
You are literally married to this position such that disproving even 1 of your conspiracies literally crumbles your entire whole world view because all of your beliefs are interconnected at such a superficial level it would topple like dominoes one after another.
Pedophile rings connects to pharma connects to tech connects to agriculture connects to whatever, if the pedo rings weren't real, it severely cripples your other beliefs, and since your bought into your cult or schizophrenia that can't happen for you.
So tell me in good faith, what realistically changes your mind?
My ask is reasonable and for literally any other topic no one would have a problem with it, what about you?
Why do you need all possibilities to be condensed down into a probability of 0 or 1?
Probability (how we can handle a lack of certainty) doesn't work that way.
There are things a person believes with varying levels of confidence.
Me not having sufficiently proof for you of one thing doesn't make its probability 0.
You believing something doesn't make its probability 1.
> good faith
Reddit/Destinoid term.
You might as well throw in a "bad actor".
It's sounds like you're hung up in some sort of binary choice between 100% trusting institutions or 100% not, and don't want to 0% trust institutions, so you're having this allergic reaction.
Because it is a 1 or 0 functionally speaking.
Whether the pedo rings are real or not both sides of the argument are about the level of credibility, but as such there really is functionally only one or the other, a 0 or 1 since no matter what % of credibility you can prove, you either believe it or don't.
We're determining which is more credible not which is 100% objectively true as that would be impossible.
On that aspect you need to have something more verifiable than existing information to your contrary.
Either way you dodged my point entirely.
I can be moved, you can't and the fact you didn't answer what your mover was proves it.
we can speculate as to the "Why" and we can come up with some interesting theories, and some theories that maybe have some holes in it.
but its a fact that the clinton foundation has been associated with some weird child sex trafficing scandals in haiti, it is a fact that tony podesta has weird child sex abuse themed and serial killer themed art in his house, it is a fact that james alefantis was named one of the most influential people in washington by GQ and his instagram was fully of extremely weird posts in relation to children, and that he at one point dated media matters's david brock.
it is a fact that the podesta and clinton emails talk about extremely weird things, such as clinton saying that she's going to sacrifice a chicken to moloch in her backyard, or a person saying they found a "hankerchief with a map on it that seems pizza related", or someone saying that a function at the white house will have sixty thousand dollars of hot dogs flown in, or someone saying that two specific toddlers will be in a heated pool so there "will be entertainment", and so on. its not schizo to look at that and be like "thats fricking bizzare, does this have to do with pedophillia?"
I just can’t comprehend how you don’t see what a useful gullible pawn you are. It’s absolutely mind boggling.
you aren't at all even trying to explain a coherent logical counter argument to what i'm saying, you tried a straw man where you summarized a limited exchange of words that center around a why, and i counter argued that you should pay attention more to the what, and arrive at speculating the why last, because the why is the toughest to answer and also the least neccessary.
i discussed things that are known facts, the weird child sex and serial killer art that tony podesta has, the fact that james alefentis had weird instagram posts around children and was named one of the most influential people in washington, that hillary literally discussed sacrificing a chicken to moloch in one email, or that toddlers being in a heated pool was called "entertainment" in a political function, and many strange references to hot dogs and pizza that are extremely unlikely to actually be about hot dogs and pizza, and your respond is just like "dude you just dont get it."
that sounds more like you trying to preserve your feeling that i'm stupid for believing this and your smart for not believing this, rather then you trying to actually evaluate the information.
you got source for any of that
Yeah that stuff was all planted there to manipulate the guillble chuds lmao hilarious. Also god created the world 6000 years ago and planted all the dinosaur bones and prehistoric fossils to test your faith. Great bit lmao
If you've done a deep dive into pizzagate and think there's nothing to it then you're honestly a moron. But chances are you saw some snopes-tier "debunking" and think you know what the case actually is when in reality you don't.
Well reasoned post
Gay aloof post and straw man with shitty AI art
In this case, we have a clear winner
>if everyone knows the symbol why keep using it?
>>"because you don't have the power to stop them"
>>so what's the point of the symbol anyway if you never had the power to stop it?
>>"it's to taunt everyone and show their power"
>>so what's the point of even hiding it at all from the beginning then?
>>"it's part of the ritual it has to be hidden"
>>but if it has to be hidden then revealing the symbols does the opposite no?
>>"no but blah blah blah"
>It's all so fricking tiresome when you just have excuse after excus
Basically these conspiracies have the perfect amount of exposure to be talked about, but to make the people talking about them seem crazy. If they were less exposed, you wouldn't be desensitized to the theories, and might be more open to them. I learned of this stuff around 2004, before the Illuminati was a household name. When I brought them up, nobody had even heard of them. And first reading about it produced such a shock that it fueled my descent down the rabbit hole. But now it's all a joke. When people try to tell you, you've already heard it, and that extreme shock doesn't happen. You've been successfully filtered.
Fricking lmao. It's about pride and ego and the thrill of "getting away with something".
Not weird at all given that pedophilia was part of the mainstream gay movement and mainstream gay activism until the early 90s, and never really went away from academia. Only really frowned on in the art world in perhaps the late 2000s.
>BLogo
>coopted by fujos since then
There was WAY to much going on. The first two episodes were decent as it was contained, afterwards it’s just trauma hallucinations and minor character plots that have nothing to do with the story.
The woman with half her face blown off in the first episode looked somewhat intriguing and than it’s never talked about again as other much more boring and mundane memories flood in.
The way this story was designed could've been told in 3 or 4 episodes. Everything relevant happened off-screen in ep 1.
The ""detectives"", upon learning everything in the finale - which is just them being told information by various people, decide to agree with the perps and cover up the crime.
So the Scientists were killed by their own fear out in the dark through all the exposure? The elk running toward the setting sun and away from the darkness even if it lead to a cliff must have described what happened to the scientists out there.
you could say the """official""" reason is an injun spirit killed them, or that's what the show's writer would like you to believe
the in universe explanation is hypothermia does all this in the form of delusions causing them to go wild
>elk
there's not a very good parallel for this really from a metaphor perspective. in the case of the scientists, they were forced out onto the ice at gunpoint and died in the cold. the caribou/elk just ran off the cliff because reasons, they weren't being chased or anything. the BEST you could say is that both the caribou and the researchers were running to their deaths but that's as far as the comparison goes
>snow madness
No, it was literally the injun spirit that jumpscared the Black person
>it means thin ice
That's how the fishermen use it, but the women drew it on them. The only one that had the tattoo copied Annie's tattoo and wasn't taken with the rest of the men
>apparently hank go there before the police did
It was probably the ghost since it left the ectoplasm behind, though it doesn't make any sense why the ghost would have stolen her tongue 7 years beforehand so they could dump it later after the women get revenge
>all unresolved plot points. at the end of the finale danvers is talking to some other cops in an interrogation and just says "some questions are meant to be unanswered"
They also completely forgot about one of the former researchers that had turned nomad.
>Pedowood gaslighting us with a new meaning for their favourite pedo symbol
Oy vey
how did they know they were all guilty???
hwhite mane bad
That sounds like a whole lot of nothing that ultimately ends in a moronic feminist, whitepeoplebad revenge fantasy.
yes, the season only exists for native women to massacre white men.
Thanks famalama
>navarro (injun)
So she is a black skimo called Navarro?
White men dead
Random spirit and ghost images
Shocking twist- white men were bad
Native American girl gang kill them
It’s ok because white men bad
Nothing happens to girl gang
No explanation to spirit images
That’s literally it
It was exactly as people predicted when we saw the minute or so long teaser trailer a year ago
>Scientists killed the injun girl, injun women find out and kill them and blame it on injun spirits
>except the injun spirits are also real
>Dude what if we copied the Dyatlov pass incident but with girlpower yaas queen moments
That's it
They even steal the slab avalanche explanation so they can cover up for the cleaning ladies. Jfc.
wtf so the two dykes shack up together? lmfao this had to be written by a woman, this entire season was complete shit.
kek, the leakposters were right
fricking hell what a lame ending. it was season 3 all over again. Cinemaphile and reddit probably came up with better theories
Wait, what did the scientists do that was so bad?
They were encouraging the mine to pollute more because it made it easier to melt the permafrost for their ice core research (???) and some woman discovered this fact and destroyed their research, so they all took turns stabbing her to death with a screwdriver.
>so they all took turns stabbing her to death with a screwdriver.
Did that actually happen? From what I saw it went down like this
>ONE scientist catches a woman hysterically smashing up years of his research
>He loses it and begins stabbing her with the nearest implement
>Her boyfriend comes down and tries to help her
>She smashes her boyfriend on the head with something heavy
>Enter the other scientists who only see blood everywhere, a smashed lab, a cleaner woman violently flailing around, and a colleague injured
>Scientists restrain her
>The stabby scientist goes to town on her again
>Other scientists are horrified
Don't forget then the boyfriend has to suffocate her because she's still not dead
Based boyfriend knew this b***h had gone too far.
>Be mad scientist
>Trying to escape police chasing you
>Go turn on Twist and Shout on the radio
>Get caught
>They start torturing you
>Immediately start telling them about how time is a flat circle
It's hard to think of a character who's actions made less sense in any TV show
It was insane how much the twist and shout thing was overused.
>ptsd because the song was playing on the radio when her husband and kid were killed by a drunk driver
>it's playing at a crime scene and they can't figure out how to turn it off
okay I guess that's belie-
>plays like three more times throughout the show
what the frick were they thinking?
It's crazy how the average anon can come up with a better story/idea than actual show writers... why couldn't we just have gotten this?
Yea that would have been better, instead we got what I predicted which was basically a deus ex machina a bunch of unrelated girlbosses heckin did a whole vigilaterino
I don't know why this anon had any faith in the writing to waste time and energy making this.
It took me 10 minutes. Most of it ended up being correct, it's just that feminism overpowered reason in the writing process and ended up ruining that plot thread unfortunately.
I did realize after I posted it however, that they probably could not have done it that way, because it would imply that Native American Inuit culture was basically a product of schizophrenia caused by bacteria/fungus, and that would result in the writers/production being accused of racism. Basically, it would classify the "sixth sense" of "great spirit" and "I hear the dead" as a mental illness caused by a disease, which would cause a shitstorm on twitter.
But I was dead on for quite a bit of it. I guess I was the True Detective™ all along.
>It would be an infinitely better storyline.
>I am back to confirm that, yes, we lost out on what could have been great.
Stop hurting us and starting writing something, anon. Please.
>It's crazy how the average anon can come up with a better story/idea than actual show writers... why couldn't we just have gotten this?
Were you here during GOT?
There were countless ideas that were better than the shit we got for 1/2 the show
So.... what exactly was the reason for the caribou jumping off the cliff?
they were taken.... by the night country! written by a 60 year old feminist
brains polluted by the science experiment driving them crazy i guess, but all of them doing it at once and so suddenly was overdramatic nonsense
They realized they would be in this season and killed themselves as fast as possible
They read in the script that they had to do it.
That cgi is jarring
this was a hallucination by the guy watching it...
If an American Democrat had to choose between a science discovery that could save the life of millions or a single bipoc of no consequence which would they pick?
israel
lockeheed martin and raytheon weapons deals
You know what, frick Alaska too.
is there any compilations of the dumbest scenes in this season? I dont wanna watch it but im curious as to how bad it gets.
the maid conveniently spilling water right over the one tile with the super top secret classified hatch was utter hoakey dogshit writing
Also how she instantly finds the murder weapon and somehow knows it was the murder weapon?
Why wouldn’t their be a super secret lair in a otherwise isolated Northern base in Alaska… To be fair we were dealing with elite crack maids who live in one house like a clown car, and figured out the murder by seeing a single screwdriver.
Or how there was a keypad associated with the secret hatch that the maids didn't need to use to open it for some reason, and which also went completely undetected by police that didn't seem to care what the keypad was for.
>An old cleaning lady from bumfrick nowhere town in an already bumfrick nowhere state
>Spills water at the precisely right place and actually notices it leaking through
>Somehow finds a way to open the secret floor
>Somehow opens the steel hatch
>Somehow goes down there (unbeknownst to all the other scientists btw)
Before we continue I'd just like to say, I've known many cleaning ladies, they're all nice good-hearted people, they also are never splitting the atom to quote a certain Texan detective
>Somehow stumbles upon an ultra-advanced lab and for some fricking reasons stays there despite having no incentive
>Somehow identifies a murder weapon which as far as I'm concerned 90% of the population who doesn't work with machinery couldn't pick out of the fricking room if they were standing in it
>Somehow knows it matches the stab wounds on the victim
>Somehow commandeers a whole platoon of cleaning ladies to barge in Seal team 6 style, round people up and basically execute them.
This unironically was the biggest suspension of disbelief in the season. Yes, much more than people seeing ghosts and caribous jumping off a fricking cliff.
Cleaning ladies are for the most part some of the mentally less inclined people you'll find in your life. Some of them would also have had a good rapport with the scientists. I've lived in places like these, a good third of these people would have mutual respect, and would never believe "le white people bad, kill kill kill xD", and that's before even getting in the weeds of how stressful and terrifying it is to go on a murder mission with 0 training. Don't forget the ex-professor lady who somehow is capable of dismembering and disposing of bodies like it was nothing. Or am I to believe the entire town is just full of complete sociopaths, with the majority of the women there being serial murderers.
And don't fricking get me started on "Hank will be traumatized for killing his dad huh?" being played for laughs. Issa Lopez is a c**t
>Legitimately god awful plot
>It has minorities and women lead
>Critics praise it
Western media died somewhere around gamergate unironically. If you liked this season you’re a massive homosexual.
Forbes was the only critic who panned it, so bizarre to me.
The Forbes guy is a fricking legend. His reviews on why Rings of Power sucked became like novel length
I just don’t understand the critics thing. This was so bad I don’t believe you could possibly convince yourself it was good. And so surely they must realize blatantly lying to your audience won’t work
You gotta remember that low IQ NPCs do in fact exist. Just because it's hard to fathom how anyone could be so moronic to think this was a great show doesn't mean those people don't exist in droves.
I think they are afraid to be cut off from HBO early access, or just watched the first two episodes that were decent in a cool setting. I’m trying to give them the benefit of the doubt.
everytime i see her face i know im about to witness kino how does she do it
The people on twitter saying this is the best season of television they've ever watched, do they truly believe it deep down?
It has to be bots.
According to twitter every latest season of [insert this trending show] is the best thing ever. Meanwhile, they'll conveniently forget about it couple weeks later and move on, never discussing it again. Notice how there are so many "instant classic" media that pop up and disappear from discussions so quickly these days.
Why was the guy freaking out in the hospital bed if it was just a bunch of middle aged women that were responsible for his death? Or is magic real and if you die wrongfully then you become a god with supernatural powers to enact revenge?
Oh frick I completely forgot about the possessed guy lol
I would've posted a pic but I can't find anything for shit
What was up with the guy who died frozen in the last episode coming back for a split second like if he was in a alternate universe just to disappear again
G-g-g-g-ghost!
*Here's a screenshot
Remember the vet said that they were all scared to death out on the ice? The spirit lady of the night country caves did a screamer on them just like navarro and otis.
What is a woman?
Giving Women equal rights as Men was a mistake. I'm sure everyone can agree, seeing the state of the world in 2024
why did the power go out in the cave in the video, but then also it didn't during the flashback
>all those random episodes like that one women giving birth in a pool and other shit really meant nothing
>just there to show women "struggling"
jesus fricking christ kill me
>Hank covering up murder is LE BAD
>Connolly covering up murder is LE BAD
>Danvers covering up murder is LE BRAVE AND STUNNING
Wasn't this the plot of Bio Dome?
Got mad scientist running around in the tunnels under the science station?
lol
cont.
VIVA LOS BIO DOME
It also ripped off an anime where a haunted location gives everyone personalized hallucinations based on their own past trauma
that sounds pretty great
adding it to my watchlist
mayoiga was kino and it's a shame barely anyone watched it.
>DUDE TRANIME LMAO
>>DUDE TRANIME LMAO
still goyslop for redditor manchildren lmao
>still goyslop for redditor manchildren lmao
still goyslop for redditor manchildren and trannies
homie do you seriously think your shitty anime came up with that?
homie do you really think Issa came up with anything on her own?
the cover up rip off was especially egregious, by far one of the shittiest parts of the show in terms of lack of payoff
don't make the mistake of thinking I am defending S4, I'm just ridiculing the laughable claim that an anime made in the last 10 years was responsible and the main inspiration behind such an universal trope
There's a lot of women shitting on this show on twitter right now like they're actively trying to combat the narrative that it isn't just chuds that don't like it
>Covers up 12 murders in your path
Yeah well, that's just a story.
So why did they take Annie tongue?
Reasons.
It's been like 2 days since the finale ended and NOBODY has talked about it. Where are the threads discussing what happened? I'm in a foreign country and won't be able to see it on HBO Max for two days, but I need to know what the frick happened. HOW DID THE RESEARCHERS DIE?
>I won't be able to see it on HBO Max for two days
Normie get out.
? How else am I supposed to watch it?
>How else am I supposed to watch it?
For frick sake. https://sflixz.to/tv/true-detective-jj4z8
torrent like the rest of us
Elite Crack squad of cleaning ladies.
Obama trafficking 8 yrold boys while QAnon needs two more weeks to save America with the help of all the god fearing Trump family.
Researchers were rounded up at gunpoint by a crew of cleaning ladies. They were then driven to the middle of a frozen lake during a blizzard and stripped of their clothing. The women then folded the clothes for them and the men had to walk naked into the freezing dark.
Is this real?
Unfortunately
I can see why pizzaloto said he didn't bother watching it. Probably read an outline and cringed.
The whole science technobabbl made me think of Star Trek.
Picard lands on planet to solve a mystery, bunch of science guys do science stuff and are this close to developing warp drive.
But are willing to sacrifice a city for the greater good for their research.
Due to Prime Directive Picard has to watch them getting murdered by locals. Le very deep moral nuance that makes you think.
How many sex scenes this season have?
Only between ugly people.
Jody foster grinds on a 60 yrolds dick in a bra well he makes a face…
What a waste of Christopher Eccleston.
For what purpose?
YONI POWER
Too fricking many. Ain't nobody trying to see old people and ugly people "frick".
>spend weeks fighting with your superiors to drag out the case
>a cop and a witness are both killed and you have to hide the bodies
>the only other witness kills himself on your watch
>find the killers
>they admit to killing them vigilante justice style with some Jigsaw-tier “well we didn’t kill then, we just kidnapped them and forced them against their will into a situation that would almost certainly kill them” argument
>let them go
Frick this dumb shit. Rookie cop blew his dads brains out for fricking nothing
Where the white woman at?
Why didn't the scientists just fund their research by selling the giant perfectly preserved dinosaur fossil?
You're asking the wrong questions
So the thing the tsalal men were working on was some dsort of miracle substance that could pptentially save MILLIONS of lives yet the show wants us to consider the eskimo women heroes because they avenged a single person? By the shows morality a single eskimo woman is worth more than the millions that could potentially have been saved by the microorganism
If you're a moralgay or a christian it's absolutely correct
Science is actually bad because... uhhhh.... no women in that scientists team and old white (totally not israeli, it has been deboonked) men would be the first lives to be the saved by that medicine. So yeah science bad, you chuds.
>or a christian
Anon...
Thou shall not kill, anon. No matter the reason.
Yeah but Christianity is about one sacrifice that saved all humanity. One < many.
Yeah but Jesus sacrificed himself, and he has divine nature and shit, you can't force it on others, or it's basically a scapegoat
That's true but they still doomed every cancer patient, kids too, to death just because "muh tribe". Very egoistical mindset.
Many Christians were persecuted and killed against their will but the first communities and then Churches still consider them martyrs.
Agreed. From a global perspective I fully agree with you. But then why would you care about all this progress if your kids still die at birth ? And you would also be correct to say it's worthless and that it won't change anything for you.
>egotistical
Definitely, but asking you to sacrifice your life and your future for others is also monstrous.
Not that i defend the writing or anything, it was terrible in execution.
Yep it's an interesting subject with a lot on the line and the way the show tries to tackle it has all the grace of an elephant in a china shop. In the end it's just #GirlbossGangGettingShitDone and #YassQweenSlay
maybe it's just me but i don't think dumping toxic waste into the environment is a racial issue
gaping mouth ghosts pointing randomly
It was not pointless, they were making the onions face.
Better than season 2. Equal to season 3.
kys, unironically.
>what are the right questions then?
Is From any good?
No. Yellowjackets better.
Elden Ring was their best game and I'm tired of pretending otherwise.
So the mine is still polluting the frick out of the water thus causing further stillbirths. Is the show implying this new old lady militia will continue to kill people with protection from the police? Because that’s definitely the implication I got from this ending.
So like, why didn't any of the Tsalal guys call the cops when the Injuvengers showed up? They had cell phones and it's shown that some of them hid and ran so they clearly had enough time to do so
You're not asking the right questions
>Danvers falling down after asking if Navarro is ok
Just run into the painted on tunnel entrance already!
How is every character on this show so fricking ugly, grandma Foster is the most atractive person there. I could walk down the street and the random people I passed would be supermodels in comparison.
>random "time is a flat circle" quote
ebin, remember season 1 guys, gurls, kangs and queens?
That random charlie chaplin shit is sprinkled throughout the show. Almost feels like intentional sabotage of the dreary drama shtick.
Why did the phones all freak out like it was j-horror when what actually happened was the eskimos flipping the main power switch
Why didn't the janny ever see the scientists using the "secret" hatch? Considering that lab is what they're there for you'd think there's regular traffic on that ladder.
If a ghost jumpscared the scientists to death, how did that one guy survive? Did the ghost miss?
>raped Kstew
>got away with it
Like the gays, lesbians never consider it rape it's just a initiation.
Just google it, chuds.
>Well, I’ll tell you the two stories of the tongue, so our audience can pick. Annie was killed by the scientists, as we know. Clark finishes her off, and then they panic and they call the mine. The mine sends Hank, who has a corrupt relationship with the mine, to take care of the body. So he takes her out of the station and dumps her in a place close to the area of conflict between the mine and the hunters, the people that live of the land. And there, he mistreats the body. He’s the one that kicks the body. He’s the one that cuts the tongue.
>And all of this is to make it look like it’s a message about the activism against the mine. In my many conversations with John, this is not something Hank enjoys. He disconnects, and it’s a job. It doesn’t mean that he doesn’t haunt him. But I do believe that there is a slight psychopathic streak in Hank to be able to do that violence to a woman. He leaves a tongue there, and walks away.
>So what happened to that tongue? The version that will work for the people that will read the series as a completely rational story is that the tongue was found by the people of the village. And then the women who know everything knew that they couldn’t take care of Annie’s body in the way that they would like. So one of them keeps a tongue as an act of reverence and kindness to the body that is still going to go through a lot of indignities. They preserve the tongue. Danvers says in Episode 2 that the tongue has some unusual damage, which could be because of freezing. And then when the women come into the station, they leave the tongue as a sign that now is the time of the truth of storytelling — of our storytelling. The stories that Annie couldn’t tell and was silenced for are going to come to the light.
>The other version of events is: Annie is left there, and the tongue is cut and the tongue disappears into thin air. And it is Annie who comes with the women into the station, like she’s awake. Clark says, “I knew she was coming.” Annie does visit the station with the women, and leaves her own tongue, because she knows this is how it starts — that she can finally tell her story.
>So it’s up to you to decide.
It's a choose your own adventure, chuds.
>The mine sends Hank
>And all of this is to make it look like it’s a message about the activism against the mine
So the mine sends a coorupt cop who specifically implicates themine being involved into the killing because...................
God damn, this Hispanic c**t is so stupid it hurts!
> we need to empower women by turning them into men