This show has been more of a cure for my weebism than an indulgence of it, and helped me appreciate the superiority of anglo-saxon civilization. This joyless, hyper-ritualized culture that only thinks about death has little appeal to me. The westernization of the Meiji period has clearly done some good for them.
It honestly did the opposite for me. The brits were burning women alive because they believed magic was real and shat in the streets. Sure, Japan at the time might've been filled with death but at least the cities were clean and everyone had OCD.
>shat in the streets
People in Japan were still relieving themselves in public well into the 20th century (despite various government laws against it due to Western negative writings regarding the issue and a desire to be seen as modernized), pic related is from 1971.
The positives >Good cast >Seems to be historically accurate (but I'm not into Japanese history so correct me if I'm wrong) >Cool philosophical themes
The negatives >BORING story >shitty writing on an overall scale >shitty color grading
Am I missing anything?
story
writing on an overall scale
color grading
Absolutely filtered, unironically. Nothing in the past decade compares to shogun on these three points.
You're not white. Only browns with dark eyes complain about muted colors because they literally have trouble seeing things that aren't brightly colored.
The positives >Good cast >Seems to be historically accurate (but I'm not into Japanese history so correct me if I'm wrong) >Cool philosophical themes
The negatives >BORING story >shitty writing on an overall scale >shitty color grading
story
writing on an overall scale
color grading
Absolutely filtered, unironically. Nothing in the past decade compares to shogun on these three points.
You're right, I haven't seen a TV show yet where they overdid muh hecking depressing feudal era colors and muh blurring as much as they did in Shogun kek.
Truly nothing compares
>what? are people moronic? I swear to God everybody uses this word so arbitrarily.
Are you moronic or did you genuinely not catch any philosophical themes being explored?
Those weaboos who want to move to Japan and are sad that they will never be Japanese are fricking moronic. To be a white person, who's actually interested in Japan and learns their language and etiquette is literally the best position in the Japanese society you can have. You will always be considered interesting looking and exotic (if you're not butt ugly of course), and as soon as you open your mouth, locals will be surprised, especially if you are at least N4 level speaker. They will actually respect you taking the time and effort to learn how their society functions, another advantage the natives don't have.
You will never feel social pressure the way Japanese do, you are an outsider, meaning that there are way less expectations from you, you are never 100% part of the hierarchy. Which means that you have way more freedom than locals. And even if you have been living in Japan for years, you can often easily manipulate them into thinking that you're just another baka gaijin if you want to get out of some awkward situation. It's literally the best of both worlds, those idiots don't even realize the luck they have.
>You will never feel social pressure the way Japanese do, you are an outsider, meaning that there are way less expectations from you, you are never 100% part of the hierarchy. Which means that you have way more freedom than locals.
DESU, I think this is the real reason the Shogun took to William Anjin so well, and why so many big figures of the Meiji era had Euro friends/correspondents. It's nice to have someone who will actually give you an their honest opinion instead of just telling you what they think you want to hear.
Konnichiwa. I actually have samurai ancestry on my mom's side. The Nagatos from Kagoshima. After the Boshin War my ancestors were sent to Okinawa to be chief of police. Japan didn't eliminate their ruling class like some nations did, instead they put them to work since they were educated.
every show out there these days is seething with 'FRICK YOU WHITEY, I WANT YOU DEAD!!!" messages. It's nice watching something that is prioritizing story and characters over political messaging and racial demoralization.
boring stilted characters
the villain woman sounded like she was trying to talk like an anime villain
nothing really happens on screen after ep 3
manages to make japan look like a barren and empty CGI grey-blue wasteland
main character just sorta hangs around, really isn't doing much most the time
>the villain woman sounded like she was trying to talk like an anime villain
You moronic fricking shit for brains, it's anime villains who take inspiration from the classic archetype from that period. How can people be so fricking dumb and not forget how to breathe?
>The japanese didn't meticiously describe everything and their way of life
Please commit seppuku, you are not worthy of being fed to dogs.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
THERE WERE NO APACHES IN THAT PERIOD IN JAPAN
ALLEGEDY
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
calm down davido-kun
here have this picture of big anime tiddy
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
THERE WERE NO APACHES IN THAT PERIOD IN JAPAN
ALLEGEDY
I love how some anons on Cinemaphile think they know better than the Japanese producer of the show, who refused to participate in the show unless they aim for authenticity and actual Japanese actors, kek
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>aim for authenticity
yet when they speak "portuguese" they just speak english, but they also speak english when they speak english.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Sure bro just find marketable English leads who can speak Portuguese, then find another marketable lead who can speak Japanese and Portuguese fluently, then see how well your western-produced show does in the west with no English in it after the first episode
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
These are the same kinds of people who teach Spanish as non-natives and who think they can correct the natives. I saw a video of a gringo Spanish teacher reacting to Anya Taylor Joy's Spanish (She's a native speaker of Argentinian Spanish). That dude explained some of her "mistakes", then actual Argentinians commented that no, fricktard, it's actually completely fine in their version of Spanish and why he as a non-native feels entitled to actually correct the way a native speaks without even knowing what he's talking about. Kek.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
That dumb b***h looks like a bug anyway who cares
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>absolutely seething at posts that are obviously not being serious at all
jesus christ how new and weeby can you get. fricking tourist moron
not super sure on this for japan, I know in places like Australia that have massage parlors that have gross old ladies that jerk you off, that's not really seen as cheating.
Where as going to Kabukicho in Shinjuku to frick hookers is probably a little more up in the air. Japs have had brothels and sex workers normalized for hundreds of years though, maybe they just see it as a service.
There are hookers in Kabukicho? I was under the impression that there weren't any brothels in Japan, ones that are legal anyway and host local women, other than Tobita in Osaka. I thought the only thing close to it was Kira-Kira girls bar. Yakuza bars also do have women but they're not Japanese women, just women from Taiwan or China that wronged the Yakuza in some way and have to repay their debt or something.
There are no brothels in Japan. You go to an overpriced restaurant with a scantily clad waitress or pay for a woman to bathe you or for a woman to come to your house and help you exercise and then once you're the room alone with her you're just such a charming and handsome man that she couldn't help herself and simply HAD to have sex with you. You never paid for sex though, just the bath or restaurant. Also the law only bans veganal sex so if you pay for a handjob, a blowjob, or anal then that's fine
There are hookers in Kabukicho? I was under the impression that there weren't any brothels in Japan, ones that are legal anyway and host local women, other than Tobita in Osaka. I thought the only thing close to it was Kira-Kira girls bar. Yakuza bars also do have women but they're not Japanese women, just women from Taiwan or China that wronged the Yakuza in some way and have to repay their debt or something.
meant for
not super sure on this for japan, I know in places like Australia that have massage parlors that have gross old ladies that jerk you off, that's not really seen as cheating.
Where as going to Kabukicho in Shinjuku to frick hookers is probably a little more up in the air. Japs have had brothels and sex workers normalized for hundreds of years though, maybe they just see it as a service.
There are tons of ugly white girls, same as there are tons of ugly Asians. Trust in characteristics you desire (personality and temperament are more important than fleeting beauty) and assert yourself.
boring stilted characters
the villain woman sounded like she was trying to talk like an anime villain
nothing really happens on screen after ep 3
manages to make japan look like a barren and empty CGI grey-blue wasteland
main character just sorta hangs around, really isn't doing much most the time
It was filmed in the PNW which naturally has the characteristics which were captured as recorded. Everything here is blue, green and gray, the 2021 wildfires notwithstanding.
>the night of the ninja assault >mariko and blackthorne are having steamy sex >the walls are thin so the portugese priest covers his ears, but eventually he starts mastrubating >"I'm sorry mariko" the priest says >mariko falls asleep in blackthrones arm having a dream about walking the thames and meeting the queen >black thorne is snoring >guards are getting their throats slit, another gets a throwing star to the forehead >one of the ninjas starts monkeying about underneath the ceiling, slowly untangling a thin thread >a drop of poison rolls down towards blackthorne's mouth >blackthorne turns his face the very last second and wakes up >he pulls on the string and the ninja falls breaking is neck >blackthorne starts screaming "NIIINJAAS" >panic! all hell breaks loose >mariko and the other women wake up, they don't know whats going on but mariko and blackthrone attempt to lead them to saftey >a fire breaks out, exploding grenades, decapitated samurai, blood gurgeling ninjas >the group makes their way through a corridore while some of the other aristocrats and their henchmen get pulled in to the air by sickle chains and are cut in half >the women start grabbing weapons and start fighting back >blackthorne is duel wielding flintlock pistols and a tanto in his teeth >mariko is now facing the head ninja who is swinging a weighted chain over his hand >"come on, get some!" he says >the fight goes on for a few seconds and mariko gets mortally injured but manages to kill the head ninja as well >blackthorne starts screaming "MARIKOOO!" and fights his way through a bunch of men >He takes her in his arms and she says "I always loved you blackthorne sama" while revealing a kimono full of grenades >"please go, the secret entrance" >Blackthorne cries but is grabbed by the women who urge him they must hurry >"mariko lights the fuse" and gives a mob of approaching ninjas the middle finger >"let's get it over with you fricking c**ts" >*explosion*
Just watched Shogun official trailer that has 13 million views.
Watching it now, it's soooo disingenuous. lmao. they really crammed every ""action"" scene they've got in the whole 10 episodes into the 2 minute trailer.
I didn't really like anjin-sama's acting in the first 2 or so episodes, mainly because i watch k-drama slop and it's weird seeing western actors in them as they're always low effort actors the producers pluck off the street, but his acting really grew on me and i ended up really enjoying his acting.
This show has been more of a cure for my weebism than an indulgence of it, and helped me appreciate the superiority of anglo-saxon civilization. This joyless, hyper-ritualized culture that only thinks about death has little appeal to me. The westernization of the Meiji period has clearly done some good for them.
This but unironically
Japan is style over substance: the country
Just think of it this way, it took nuclear fricking weaponry to finally kill the Bushido spirit after half a millennium.
It honestly did the opposite for me. The brits were burning women alive because they believed magic was real and shat in the streets. Sure, Japan at the time might've been filled with death but at least the cities were clean and everyone had OCD.
>shat in the streets
People in Japan were still relieving themselves in public well into the 20th century (despite various government laws against it due to Western negative writings regarding the issue and a desire to be seen as modernized), pic related is from 1971.
i will meet my big booba jp gf today
Is this one of those shows set in medieval times where everyone wears grey or earth brown colours kek
The blue filter will make you unable to tell anyway. It's like they tried to beat the bluray upscalers to the punch.
You can tell it's meant to take place in the past if there's a blue-gray filter over everything
What is the white equivalent of buck broken?
pussy destroyed
Just not as catchy without the alliteration.
This is straight solid terminology, but it's too hard to introduce to westerners because they'd frick up the pronunciation.
Being a libtard
Literally me
Is it really that easy?
with a script and a willing participant anything is possible anon
I'm so fricking lonely
Why am I rock hard
Fake!
bugged eye prostitute
I refuse to watch any slop with the blue filter.
>YWNBAJ
Not with that attitude
thanks to the anon that made this btw
You're not white. Only browns with dark eyes complain about muted colors because they literally have trouble seeing things that aren't brightly colored.
You will never be a israelite?
It hurts
The positives
>Good cast
>Seems to be historically accurate (but I'm not into Japanese history so correct me if I'm wrong)
>Cool philosophical themes
The negatives
>BORING story
>shitty writing on an overall scale
>shitty color grading
Am I missing anything?
story
writing on an overall scale
color grading
Absolutely filtered, unironically. Nothing in the past decade compares to shogun on these three points.
everything in the past decade has had horrible color grading tf are you on about
You're right, I haven't seen a TV show yet where they overdid muh hecking depressing feudal era colors and muh blurring as much as they did in Shogun kek.
Truly nothing compares
Name a better show then?
then what?
Then I frick you in your obtuse butthole, queer.
Shogun (1980)
>>Cool philosophical themes
>Philosophical
what? are people moronic? I swear to God everybody uses this word so arbitrarily.
>what? are people moronic? I swear to God everybody uses this word so arbitrarily.
Are you moronic or did you genuinely not catch any philosophical themes being explored?
Those weaboos who want to move to Japan and are sad that they will never be Japanese are fricking moronic. To be a white person, who's actually interested in Japan and learns their language and etiquette is literally the best position in the Japanese society you can have. You will always be considered interesting looking and exotic (if you're not butt ugly of course), and as soon as you open your mouth, locals will be surprised, especially if you are at least N4 level speaker. They will actually respect you taking the time and effort to learn how their society functions, another advantage the natives don't have.
You will never feel social pressure the way Japanese do, you are an outsider, meaning that there are way less expectations from you, you are never 100% part of the hierarchy. Which means that you have way more freedom than locals. And even if you have been living in Japan for years, you can often easily manipulate them into thinking that you're just another baka gaijin if you want to get out of some awkward situation. It's literally the best of both worlds, those idiots don't even realize the luck they have.
>You will never feel social pressure the way Japanese do, you are an outsider, meaning that there are way less expectations from you, you are never 100% part of the hierarchy. Which means that you have way more freedom than locals.
DESU, I think this is the real reason the Shogun took to William Anjin so well, and why so many big figures of the Meiji era had Euro friends/correspondents. It's nice to have someone who will actually give you an their honest opinion instead of just telling you what they think you want to hear.
i want to frick mariko and i want to frick fuji and i want to frick kiku and i want to frick ochiba and i cry like this that it will never happen
thank God for that
I am Japanese though?
Konnichiwa dude
Konnichiwa. I actually have samurai ancestry on my mom's side. The Nagatos from Kagoshima. After the Boshin War my ancestors were sent to Okinawa to be chief of police. Japan didn't eliminate their ruling class like some nations did, instead they put them to work since they were educated.
TEKIIIIIIIIIIIIII
I will never get over how overrated and weirdly astroturfed this show is
every show out there these days is seething with 'FRICK YOU WHITEY, I WANT YOU DEAD!!!" messages. It's nice watching something that is prioritizing story and characters over political messaging and racial demoralization.
boring stilted characters
the villain woman sounded like she was trying to talk like an anime villain
nothing really happens on screen after ep 3
manages to make japan look like a barren and empty CGI grey-blue wasteland
main character just sorta hangs around, really isn't doing much most the time
>the villain woman sounded like she was trying to talk like an anime villain
You moronic fricking shit for brains, it's anime villains who take inspiration from the classic archetype from that period. How can people be so fricking dumb and not forget how to breathe?
villainous jap milf gf, por favor...
The actress is 29, they made her look a bit older with make up
>from that period
there were no movie cameras during that period you fricking mongoloid. jesus how dumb are you
>The japanese didn't meticiously describe everything and their way of life
Please commit seppuku, you are not worthy of being fed to dogs.
THERE WERE NO APACHES IN THAT PERIOD IN JAPAN
ALLEGEDY
calm down davido-kun
here have this picture of big anime tiddy
I love how some anons on Cinemaphile think they know better than the Japanese producer of the show, who refused to participate in the show unless they aim for authenticity and actual Japanese actors, kek
>aim for authenticity
yet when they speak "portuguese" they just speak english, but they also speak english when they speak english.
Sure bro just find marketable English leads who can speak Portuguese, then find another marketable lead who can speak Japanese and Portuguese fluently, then see how well your western-produced show does in the west with no English in it after the first episode
These are the same kinds of people who teach Spanish as non-natives and who think they can correct the natives. I saw a video of a gringo Spanish teacher reacting to Anya Taylor Joy's Spanish (She's a native speaker of Argentinian Spanish). That dude explained some of her "mistakes", then actual Argentinians commented that no, fricktard, it's actually completely fine in their version of Spanish and why he as a non-native feels entitled to actually correct the way a native speaks without even knowing what he's talking about. Kek.
That dumb b***h looks like a bug anyway who cares
>absolutely seething at posts that are obviously not being serious at all
jesus christ how new and weeby can you get. fricking tourist moron
glad i wasn't the only person who found her voice when delivering those lines annoying as frick
Blackthrone turned into a whiny background character after ep 4
Yeah I gave it a shot and it was alright at best, some good actors/performances but not that interesting
>Do you like watching Japanese people have long boring conversations in a fishing village, well do I have the perfect show for you
>YWNBAJ
You will never be a... israelite?
a Jap An
would a trans-japanese only cut his dick in half?
Any good books on nip etiquette?
just misbehave and get bullied for it lmao easiest way to learn anything
>this show basically catapulted Fuji's actress to super stardom in Japan when before she was relatively obscure
Wild
she ugly
Japanese are the cheap asian knockoffs of Whites
like Indians are to African Americans
like Filipinos are to Mexicans
like Chinese are to israelites
every asian girl in the show is used goods
what is the point of asian girls if they're not gonna be virgins?
that's their ONLY appeal over White girls
japanese women are way bigger bawds than whites lmao and they cheat at way higher rates
Isn't cheating literally normalized in Japan? Like they don't even consider going to a prostitute cheating, imagine being this cucked
not super sure on this for japan, I know in places like Australia that have massage parlors that have gross old ladies that jerk you off, that's not really seen as cheating.
Where as going to Kabukicho in Shinjuku to frick hookers is probably a little more up in the air. Japs have had brothels and sex workers normalized for hundreds of years though, maybe they just see it as a service.
There are hookers in Kabukicho? I was under the impression that there weren't any brothels in Japan, ones that are legal anyway and host local women, other than Tobita in Osaka. I thought the only thing close to it was Kira-Kira girls bar. Yakuza bars also do have women but they're not Japanese women, just women from Taiwan or China that wronged the Yakuza in some way and have to repay their debt or something.
There are no brothels in Japan. You go to an overpriced restaurant with a scantily clad waitress or pay for a woman to bathe you or for a woman to come to your house and help you exercise and then once you're the room alone with her you're just such a charming and handsome man that she couldn't help herself and simply HAD to have sex with you. You never paid for sex though, just the bath or restaurant. Also the law only bans veganal sex so if you pay for a handjob, a blowjob, or anal then that's fine
I’ve been to soaplands. They are fun.
Yeah they're pretty great. Got my first rimjob at one and it was fricking awesome
sorry,
meant for
Wow that's so interesting, chang! You're SO cool to us whites now!
There are tons of ugly white girls, same as there are tons of ugly Asians. Trust in characteristics you desire (personality and temperament are more important than fleeting beauty) and assert yourself.
It was filmed in the PNW which naturally has the characteristics which were captured as recorded. Everything here is blue, green and gray, the 2021 wildfires notwithstanding.
Based Toranaga not falling for the wahmen stronk speech and counter manipulating Mariko to sacrifice herself instead
Konichiwa Anjin Sama
>the night of the ninja assault
>mariko and blackthorne are having steamy sex
>the walls are thin so the portugese priest covers his ears, but eventually he starts mastrubating
>"I'm sorry mariko" the priest says
>mariko falls asleep in blackthrones arm having a dream about walking the thames and meeting the queen
>black thorne is snoring
>guards are getting their throats slit, another gets a throwing star to the forehead
>one of the ninjas starts monkeying about underneath the ceiling, slowly untangling a thin thread
>a drop of poison rolls down towards blackthorne's mouth
>blackthorne turns his face the very last second and wakes up
>he pulls on the string and the ninja falls breaking is neck
>blackthorne starts screaming "NIIINJAAS"
>panic! all hell breaks loose
>mariko and the other women wake up, they don't know whats going on but mariko and blackthrone attempt to lead them to saftey
>a fire breaks out, exploding grenades, decapitated samurai, blood gurgeling ninjas
>the group makes their way through a corridore while some of the other aristocrats and their henchmen get pulled in to the air by sickle chains and are cut in half
>the women start grabbing weapons and start fighting back
>blackthorne is duel wielding flintlock pistols and a tanto in his teeth
>mariko is now facing the head ninja who is swinging a weighted chain over his hand
>"come on, get some!" he says
>the fight goes on for a few seconds and mariko gets mortally injured but manages to kill the head ninja as well
>blackthorne starts screaming "MARIKOOO!" and fights his way through a bunch of men
>He takes her in his arms and she says "I always loved you blackthorne sama" while revealing a kimono full of grenades
>"please go, the secret entrance"
>Blackthorne cries but is grabbed by the women who urge him they must hurry
>"mariko lights the fuse" and gives a mob of approaching ninjas the middle finger
>"let's get it over with you fricking c**ts"
>*explosion*
>I am 12
so? what's wrong with that
Why? You wanna frick?
the whole scene is one shot btw, john woo style
Just watched Shogun official trailer that has 13 million views.
Watching it now, it's soooo disingenuous. lmao. they really crammed every ""action"" scene they've got in the whole 10 episodes into the 2 minute trailer.
I didn't really like anjin-sama's acting in the first 2 or so episodes, mainly because i watch k-drama slop and it's weird seeing western actors in them as they're always low effort actors the producers pluck off the street, but his acting really grew on me and i ended up really enjoying his acting.
>watching trailers
ngmi
Surprised nobody has mentioned how cute it is that Fuji learned a word in Portuguese (English) for Blackthorne
>supposed "historically" """"accurate"""" setting
>not one (1, いち) YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
bah