>"Let's say right now 'Rebel Moon' is almost at 90 million views? 80 or 90 million accounts turned it on, give or take. They assume two viewers per screening, right? That’s the kind of math. So you think if that movie was in the theater as a distribution model, that’s like 160,000,000 people supposedly watching based on that math. 160,000,000 people at $10 a ticket would be 160,000,000 times ten. That’s 1.6 billion. So more people probably saw ‘Rebel Moon’ than saw ‘Barbie’ in the theater."
https://movieweb.com/zack-snyder-netflix-rebel-moon-more-popular-barbie-comparison/
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We did it sirs
What a sad and moronic post. Your pride over this is pathetic.
>Assumes 2 people per screening
Guys with families are delusional to the state of the world
t. Delusional father and husband who still believes you can just cold approach a cut girl at the library with a smile and, compliment and a specific offer to hang out
> you can just cold approach a cut girl at the library with a smile and, compliment and a specific request for her instagram
FTFY
I've seen guys try this.
In one of the cases the guy tried three different languages, all of whom the girl pretended not to understand.
After he left I spoke with her in the first language he tried.
>Assumes 2 people per screening
>Guys with families are delusional to the state of the world
Yes, considering most of the views come from India we have to assume 10 people per family, and including neighbors, about 30 people per screening.
Thats.15 times more. So its about 24 billions box office
24 billion rupees!
Imagine
>Yes, considering most of the views come from India
India has about 6 million Netflix subscribers total. North America is 33% of their audience and Europe/Middle East/North Africa is another 33%, with most of those being in Europe. You may find it comforting to think only pajeets watch Snyder, but it's mostly Americans, and Europeans who love him.
Wtf is wrong with you man. Unironically you should see a psychiatrist
>Add me on insta
>Whats your snapchat
>I dont like to text, I use x app instead
Assuming that is 90mil of Netflixs 260mil subscribers that means 1 out of 3 Netflix subscribers watched Rebel Moon. That also assumes that two viewers per watch. That also assume no re-watches.
Anyway a lot of assumptions. I highly doubt more people watched Rebel Moon than Barbie considering the massive marketing that Barbie got vs the practically unheard ip that is Rebel Moon.
It did pretty bad even by Netflix standards so his whole cope is irrelevant
it also assumes people would pay 10 dollars to watch that garbage
That's not his argument, though.
>I highly doubt more people watched Rebel Moon than Barbie considering the massive marketing that Barbie got
Have you stopped to consider that maybe the reason you believe it's magnitudes more popular is because of that marketing not because it's actually that popular
Barbieshit is budget, brand recognition and marketing. That's all.
But that's true for all modern blockbusters. Regardless of quality.
Point is that even if the hack had all those things, it would still flop and only some indian subreddit would rabidly defend it. As usual.
Lmao what a moron
How many people left the house to see a movie in theaters vs how many people just turned it on and fell asleep because Netflix doesn’t actually have that much good content?
israeli math and logic is a marvel to witness. They can rationalize anything and dumb guys will believe them.
with how many people could watch rebel moon i think it says more than nobody wants to take 2 seconds to pull out their phone
>youbutr video has 1billion views
>let's say each viewer paid 10 to watch, instead of seeing for free in the confort of their homes... multiple times
>that's a trillion right there
I don't think he is considering how many of those people turned it off after 5 minutes
Especially since Netflix starts auto playing shit if you hover for too long. I’m sure they count those auto plays as views even if they’re immediately exited moments after starting.
>lets just say a months Netflix subscription is the price of 1 movie ticket
this homie legit moronic lmao
Is he trolling or just stupid?
if he's trolling then he's playing 5d chess because he's been this dumb since dawn of the dead
He's doing the Borden gambit
Coping.
He's coping.
This. He's humiliated that his movie got lampooned by critics and audiences.
>This. He's humiliated that his movie got lampooned by critics and audiences.
lol the same interview has a quote about how there's a joke in the Barbie movie mocking him
>My wife was like, ‘That’s cool, right? That’s cool that they came after you.’ I was like, that’s 100% cool.”
Totally awesome man!
Zack Snyder is unironically a Barbie fanboy.
Seriously, people are trying to see something controversial or inflammatory in what he is saying when the dude is being logical and humble.
For example, why Variety didn't put the rest of the quote where he says Rebel Moon would never be successful in theaters?
>when the dude is being logical and humble.
I totally believe that he has no problem with it, but c'mon man. That quote reads like pure cope, and shit that never happened on top of it. He's an omega dumbass.
That's because the quote is completely out of context.
He's not saying Rebel Moon is more successful than Barbie, he is talking about the reach NETFLIX has. In the same conversation he says Rebel Moon would have bombed terribly at theaters.
Jornos are just desperate for anything controversial regarding Snyder so they can generate outrage and clicks.
Because major trades always take quotes out of context to drive traffic. And then that stupid shit gets posted here where morons go out of their way to “dunk” on [insert person here] as if they haven’t just fallen for a trap laid by a media conglomerate.
You know, for a site full of trolls, you guys somehow get baited just as often as the average person.
Maybe it's not him. He probably has a daughter that is into Barbie.
Is he wrong though?
His stupid homosexual fans have made him arrogant to the point of delusion
Snyder is huffing weapons grade copium right now.
And it generated zero dollars
He will do anything except accepting he made a bad boring movie.
How long does it take for you to be counted as a view? Like 1 second of accidentally clicking on it? What is the minutes watched for this, is he saying 180 million people watched it for like 22 billion minutes?
NETFLIX was forced to change how they count viewers after the Writer's Strike. Now i think you need to be watching something for half a hour or something.
It's changed over time
>In January 2020, the platform switched to counting as views anyone who watched two minutes (“long enough to indicate the choice was intentional,” it told shareholders).
>Now (2023), one view equals "total viewing hours, divided by length of show". If a one-hour show attracts 10 hours of viewing, that’s 10 views.
its one of those dodgy metrics companies report to make them look better than they are
usually its 1 minute = 1 view
it's like subscribers, a number they report implying everyone is a paying member but they don't divide them into free trials, discounts etc
See
,
. NETFLIX can't bullshit anymore because of the Writer's Strike. Now they're forced to not only count views by the length of the movie or show, but also report every every month how much a movie or show is viewed by their subscribers, so that the people that sell shit to them can receive the proper dividends.
Well, is he wrong, Cinemaphile?
If you watch the interview his entire argument is that the NETFLIX model allows movies that would limited to no exposure on the old model, ie wide theater releases, to be exposed to millions of people worldwide. He even goes on to say that his movie, Rebel Moon, would have very little exposure for being a "weirdo movie". He also says this is because the bar entrance is so low. You can just click on a banner and start watching anything. It's pure impulsive behavior.
Then he goes on to say that even success like Barbie in the end is less viewed in theaters than something on NETFLIX or Youtube.
Now you can argue all you want about how NETFLIX count viewers and how many people in a house watches the same thing through NETFLIX, but i don't see what's so controversial about what he is saying.
at it's base art is not measured based on how many people "consume" it but by how many people it affects on an emotional/mental/spiritual level.
saying "it got 1 billion views!" means less than nothing. might as well saying "1 billion people's eyeballs slightly jiggled when the photons of my movie hit their corneas!"
You're making an entirely different argument than the one being presented.
He's not talking about the merits of art, or if his movie or the Barbie movie is art. He's talking about distribution models and how the NETFLIX model allows tons of movies and shows that otherwise wouldn't exist to not only exist, but also thrive.
>He's talking about distribution models and how the NETFLIX model allows tons of movies and shows that otherwise wouldn't exist to not only exist, but also thrive.
so piracy is good then? more eyeballs on content is better for the filmmaker right?
or maybe there's an element missing - show me the money!
I doubt Snyder truly cares, since he's getting his money upfront.
This is why actors, writers, and so on don't receive shit from old shows that end up doing really well on NETFLIX, because NETFLIX paid everything upfront when they bought the license rights for said show. Whatever NETFLIX get from the show is NETFLIX's business.
yeah and that's why the whole argument is bs. a billion eyeballs on rebel moon. give me a fricking break. 800 million of those eyeballs are indian or chinese - aka eyeballs of no worth coz netflix charges them 1 usd a month or some silly amount.
>aka eyeballs of no worth coz netflix charges them 1 usd a month or some silly amount.
Do you think that NETFLIX charge LESS from third world motherfrickers? KEK. Don't be naive. They probably charge more thanks to some tax frickery.
>India is among the most affordable countries to watch Netflix in 2023. Netflix plans in India start at Rs. 149 per month for the Mobile-only plan, going up to Rs. 649 per month for the Premium plan
https://www.gadgets360.com/entertainment/news/netflix-plans-india-pricing-2023-cheapest-mobile-streaming-3843317
netflix costs like 1.5 dollars a month in india. netflix is making jack shit money from 3rd world countries where their eyeballs come from.
You do know that the whole pajeet thing holds no weight, right? This was started by Disney fans, because Disney literally panders to India and the fanboys needed to shift the shit talking.
yeah snyder totally got 60 million people in the US of A and Europe to watch his slop
You seem to think the US audience is sophisticated. Why? Americans clearly love slop, just look at the US box office for the last couple decades, just look at all the shitty shows on TV.
yeah and they still collectively told Hack Snyder and his Rebel Goons to frick off
How the frick you expect them to afford it
Why the frick would you ever say something this moronic
They don't.
Most of the time people from third world countries like Brazil and Argentina get fricked in the ass when it comes to streaming services and shit like Steam games.
Do you not know that companies will have different pricing plans for countries or regions with wildly varying purchasing power?
Except they don't really thrive because they aren't bringing in additional money. Unless those 80 million people signed up just to watch that movie. Netflix made the exact same amount of money no matter if 80 million people watched it or 8 people watched it
>Success on Netflix comes in all shapes and sizes, and is not determined by hours viewed alone. We have enormously successful movies and TV shows with both lower and higher hours viewed. It’s all about whether a movie or TV show thrilled its audience — and the size of that audience relative to the economics of the title
ofc but netflix never separates viewership by country which is hugely important for the claims it makes.
does the report show that anime dominates all?
Ya but none of them are good so that's a bad thing
streaming generates about 70% less revenue than traditional TV
it's the same with spotify, youtube etc.
tbh it's had no impact and the next one comes out in a monrh or so
i know no one who watched the 1st, no idea why netflix just greenlit so much money for Synder (especially after army of the dead)
it's the same way you know no one who plays roblox despite those videos dedicated to it getting millions of views, there's a complete separate layer of zoomers and thirdies on the internet that's a world unto itself
I suppose my gripe is that who knows how true that "90 million" number he's throwing out is. Even if Netflix is saying that, they're under no obligation to disclose that number.
Furthermore there so much stuff that comes out on Netflix that just disappears into the ether given that their algorithim promotes maybe 10 movies a week. If he was right about the power of Netflix, they would have more than maybe 5 relevant properties a year.
And as others have said, this doesn't take into account the quality and attention of these supposed "views." I assure you, the people who wore pink to the theaters to watch Barbie actually watched it. I "watched" Rebel Moon chunked into three different sittings, but with a gun against my head I couldn't name a character or tell you a single plot point.
Netflix has 250m subscribers, many of them don't even use the service regularly. I don't believe over 1/3 of Netflix subscribers watched this movie. Maybe the 90m number is how many clicked on it but I think it is probably bullshit, and if Snyder can't figure that out, then he is an idiot or a liar.
>Rebel Moon, would have very little exposure for being a "weirdo movie"
Is that what we're calling dogshit now?
He's 100% correct, /tv just gets their panties in a bunch any time Snyder does anything any more because his post-hoc status as an underrated auteur means every contrarian homosexual has to crawl out of the woodwork and start screeching about how he sucks because if people like something it has to be bad
>He's 100% correct
No he isn't
>Underrated auteur
Lmfao. Half his flicks are Capeshit, and the other half are legitimately some of the worst movies ever made, like Rebel Moon and Army of the dead
Me:
>every contrarian homosexual has to crawl out of the woodwork and start screeching about how he sucks
You:
*crawls out of the woodwork and screeches*
He’s probably right but watching something on Netflix isn’t the same as going out of your way to spend money and sit in a theater to watch a movie. Normies have the TV or their tablet going 24/7 with some streaming service open for background noise while they do something else. If they didn’t put rebel moon on they’d just put something else on the Netflix front page on. The number of people who actively watched this from beginning to end is far lower and isn’t even comparable
>on the streamer
>streamer
when did people start saying this?
feel like this shitty new term just popped up this week
Redditors seething rn
Streaming vs theatrical movies is complicated. For example, people talk about how "big" The Walking Dead or The Last of Us are. But those are streaming shows. Would people actually pay money to buy tickets to go see them in theatres. Would people actually watch a The Walking Dead movie?
You can't compare a Resident Evil movie making 300 million dollars to a streaming movie like Army of the Dead.
The discussion is pointless, though, since Snyder agreed that his movie would never be successful if it had a wide theater release, which is why he is glad Netflix picked it up.
>is almost at 90 million views? 80 or 90 million accounts turned it on
Spastic c**t
This is making trannies and feminists seethe uncontrollably because people would rather watch this dumpster fire than the disgusting trannies and holes in barbie
He's going senile
hes probably right more people saw it. Sit at home with a service you’ve already paid whenever you feel like vs leaving your house spending 50$+ at a specific time
>Zack Snyder proves "Rebel Moon" is a billion dollar hit with facts and logic
>FAKE IT TO MAKE IT
I see how studios still give him directing jobs. He’s a salesman. A con man. He really made it sound like his shitty movie did better than Barbie
The fun fact is that Greta used the Barbie movie to seethe about Zack Snyder, which is why dumb shit like this works. Bet you 10 bucks Greta will talk about this interview.
I would totally say stupid stuff like this if it made studio execs gimme a billion dollars to make a movie
Twitter was seething so fricking hard about him praising Sparta for being the perfect fascist society you have no idea.
>Sparta fascist society
>Sparta lgbt friedly society
Both he and Twittards are moronic and beyond ignorant. As usual
>Mass reply
>Mentally ill wall of text
Lmao
I cannot emphasize enough that nothing is more reddit than Snydercult
Snydercut is pure Cinemaphile culture. Even Hollywood knows this. Go watch the Bear.
Redditors seething that
spoke the truth
>NOOOOO THIS 4 HOUR AYN RAND SLOWMO SLOP IS PEAK CINEMA ANC ACTUALLY ALL THE CRITICS ARE WRONG, ITS SUPER GOOD AND ACTUALLY A MOVIE SHOULD TAKE 4 HOURS TO GIVE IT MORE PLOTHOLES THAN THE SHITTY ORIGINAL 2 HOUR ONE
Isn't this the same cope as Bright?
Bright came and went and barely anyone noticed. Do you even remember who directed it?
Snyder's divisive but he generates interest. Rebel Moon got way, way more traction across all forms of social media and viewership is usually somewhat proportional to buzz
Zack Snyder name alone is a weird sort of brand mostly fueled by Hollywood major players that hate his ass. It's like with Donald Trump.
>Snyder's divisive but he generates interest.
>muh divisive
This word again. What he makes is shit and nobody likes it. Having a bunch of cultists in some corner of the world/net, doesn't make him "divisive". It makes him universally disliked. Exceptions don't make rules.
He generates interest like Uwe Boll used to. And I bet Uwe Boll would have way more genuine audience with more budget.
>He generates interest like Uwe Boll used to
exactly. He's a highly funded Uwe Boll.
What more do you really need to say other than "lol, no it didn't"
That's the thing. They can't. Technically he isn't wrong.
Even Variety wasn't able to prove him wrong despite creating an article just to cry about his comment.
People that watch rebel moon watch it alone.
Probably passed out through the second half.
i mean... is he wrong?
yes
Why are half the people ITT claiming there must be some sort of "right and wrong" argument occurring with this conversation? Or, worse, like he's merely stating an opinion and to "agree or disagree" is completely illegal?
Good grief kids scream loudly.
And he's right, you know? The audience numbers aren't being measured in direct profit sales.
Even if the Netflix figures are correct, they are assuming two things - first, that every time someone hit "play" there were two people in the room (unlikely, given the type of people who like Snyder are mostly incels) AND that they all watched the entire movie instead of turning it off because it sucks ass.
Snyder himself is making the absurd comparison between people clicking on Rebel Moon at home using a streaming service, and audiences going to a theatre and spending at least ten dollars each to sit through Barbie. You could say "they still saw the movie!!" but he's speculating about box office specifically which is deluded.
Is that 160M people that actually sat through the entire slop? What % of that is accidental clicks or autoplays? After all, you don't accidentally go to a different showing or are treated to a surprise movie at the kinoplex (unless you live in the popcorn mines, obviously.)
>What % of that is accidental clicks or autoplays?
First of all, movies don’t do autoplays on Netflix. On TV shows they stop playing and ask after certain amount of continuous watching time if you want to keep viewing in case you fell asleep, etc. So it can’t skew the data that much. Secondly as already stated before, Netflix has changed the way it counts views to be “total viewing hours divided by length” ie 1 hour show gets 10 hours of viewing, that’s 10 views. Accidental clicks don’t play into that.
If my grandma had a dick she'd be my grandpa.
I'm not gonna take the opinions of the guy who directed Sucker Punch seriously.
I like Zack Snyder but Rebel Moon is one of the worst films I’ve ever seen. It’s the only time I’ve ever had to watch a movie in two sittings because I hated it so much I couldn’t take much more than an hour at a time. It is staggeringly awful, it belongs in the same dustbin as Battlefield Earth and Jupiter Ascending.
and logic
Press X to doubt.
>makes bafflingly shit movies
>is still this delusional
At what point will he start making "so bad it's good" movies?
Right now they're just bad.
The worst thing is I used to think he was at least a talented visual director, but then he read his own press on that and stopped working with his regular cinematographer and took over doing that himself, so now his movies are bad AND look like hot dogshit
>so now his movies are bad AND look like hot dogshit
It's pretty damn incredible how incompetent he is in every single field of filmmaking he touches.
300 was my favorite movie of the entire 2000s decade, but that was obviously a fluke.
If we double these numbers as a conservative estimate for when the uncut version comes out, we can say Rebel Moon will become the most successful movie of all time. Snyderbros we just keep winning
Lol I can't believe he fell for this shit. This is the same calculation you do to say that birdbox - a movie nobody has seen and possibly isn't even there if you try to watch it because nobody did - had enough 'views' to have made 4 billion dollars at the box office
Snyder is as much on copium as his fans are as it turns out
What Zack baby is forgetting here is, that less people actually PAID to see Rebel Moon. They watched it because it was on the service they were using. I do wonder: how many new subbers did Netflix get just because of Rebel Moon?
i guess we can add maths to the long list of things snyder isn't any good at.
He is comparing Rebel Moon streaming to Barbie theatrical. He should be comparing it to Barbie theatrical AND streaming, which would beat the shit out of Snyder's contrived numbers.
This guy is a such a creepy israelite. I watched about 15 minutes of his interview with Rogan, and he was talking about how he was trying to get his ex-wife to play Rorschach's Prostitute Mother, so that he could get a scene where she was topless with kid Rorschach (who was played by his son) because the only way he could have a pornographic scene like that with a child actor was if their actual mom was the actor.
wtf? I think Snyder fans are probably homos who want to be him or have him frick them.
>or have him frick them
I generally like Snyder's movies but rebel moon was kinda dogshit
LOL
>80 or 90 million accounts turned it on, give or take.
So 80 or 90 million people clicked on it in Netflix. Snyder should have the actual stats from Netflix that reports how many watched it in full but he is not suspiciously quoting that number, he said 'turned it on' intentionally to be misleading.
>They assume two viewers per screening, right?
I doubt Rebel Moon skews towards family viewing, little Anakin McHernandez is likely watching it in his bedroom with his lubed up wiener in hand hoping for some nasty sex scenes.
I'd guess out of that 90 million only about 10-15 million finished watching it, and that's being generous.