zombies

Why is it most zombie media is almost never about the start of the outbreak?
It's almost always months or years after when everything has already gone to shit.

But I don't get why? the start of the outbreak is always the most interesting and fun
The zombie apocalypse gets really dull really quickly. and I still don't get why a show like the Walking Dead that's over 10 years old by now has hardly explored the initial outbreak

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  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >almost never
    cool stats you got there. watch/read more stuff.

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Outside of sequels, I think most do show the beginning

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Land of the dead
    Dennis Hopper

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    it's expensive. really expensive. no producer with actual money is going to put it into a zombie film. a zombie film is what you make when you want to make dirt-cheap horror.
    showing the outbreak also means that a hack writer has to justify why the police, military and government were completely wiped out without a trace, and plotting the fall of society which would likely take months or years, if it happened at all, rather than days or weeks.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Lol this. Most militaries could easily handle zombies once the outbreak was contained to quarantined cities. Civvies don’t realize just how lethal our anti personnel capabilities are.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >civvies

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Look how badly a mild cold fricked over the entire world infrastructure and economy and people still think a zombie virus wouldn't end civilisation as we know it.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        You can’t shoot or bomb a cold. A single bullet would killing multiple zombies as they run towards you en masse. Imagine what would happen with stationary guns and bombs.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >A single bullet would killing multiple zombies
          No, it wouldn't. The return of the living dead zombies could take a whole machine gun belt of bullets and not go down

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Those zombies are unique in zombie lore. Most are killed when you destroy the brain.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              If you're planning on killing them with guns you'll need good aim, making perfect head shots isn't that easy.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            That movie is fantasy bullshit though. If I recall correctly Zombies literally live without fricking muscles or organs which is ridiculous.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              It is ridiculous, but at least it has a valid explanation in that an experimental Army chemical called 2-4-5 Trioxin is what causes zombies. In that regard, it's not "fantasy" like most zombies movies that have no explanation or have some stupid supernatural explanation.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Tar Man is a goopy skeleton and he can bite through a full grown man's skull. Damn fun movies, though.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            the Return zombies are terrifyingly resilient, but a machine gun round to the head would still turn its head into hamburger, and even if it's still alive it can't exactly hunt you down without eyes or teeth. they sawed the first zombie into bits and all the bits could do was wiggle impotently.

            • 2 months ago
              CreepyThinMan

              >the Return zombies are terrifyingly resilient, but a machine gun round to the head would still turn its head into hamburger, and even if it's still alive it can't exactly hunt you down without eyes or teeth. they sawed the first zombie into bits and all the bits could do was wiggle impotently.

              Then burnt them and compounded the problem while you'd have to think about what to do with those bits if you couldn't burn them? And think about how many thousands of corpses there were at the end as a result of the nuke. How do you corral and chop up that many, especially when they're running and screaming towards you in a wave like what happened to the cops and that was only 100!!!FACT!!!

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Look how badly a mild cold fricked over the entire world infrastructure and economy
        That was structured and purposeful however

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        White people pussied out and demanded the world shut down for a cold.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      How would the military deal with a zombie virus like the one in the Walking Dead?
      Where anyone who dies comes back as a zombie? it's not like you can just wipe out all the zombies as long as people keep dying zombies will keep being made.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        They wouldn't. People put a lot of faith in the military and the police ... but in a true apocalypse scenario, most servicemen would frick off home to their families and loved ones.

        Not to mention that munitions would not last long once all supply lines are cut off. Sustained actions can only last as long as forces can be resupplied. You don't have dick once ammo and gas and all that shit is used up.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        the thing about the slow zombies from TWD is that they require the element of surprise in order to form the large hordes that people take for granted. once the word is out that this phenomenon is happening it doesn't take a rocket scientist to have the military patrol the streets, create checkpoints, and deal with reported incidents. you'd nip half the problem in the bud just by militarizing all the hospitals and keeping citizens informed about recommend safety precautions like locking themselves in when going to bed and steering clear of others on the street. maybe fast zombies could snowball into an insurmountable problem but slow zombies could plausibly be adapted to. the military doesn't have to defeat the problem in order to deal with it, going forward.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        In TWD there was a well functioning town where they had guards and everyone had bars on their doors. If someone didn't show up to work or whatever they did a wellness check and just stabbed the walker through the bars on the door.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Wasn't the main theme of twd that zombies weren't actually that hard to deal with, it's the people that will kill you

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            I was answering anon's question, not sure what you're not getting here.

      • 2 months ago
        CreepyThinMan

        Walking Dead zombies, like Romero's, would only be a threat in the first few months or maybe a year as people would be aware that they can be killed by a headshot. Once that was public knowledge I think things would eventually settle down with Shaun of tge Dead's ending being the most realistic with the military wiping zombies out with it just becoming a part of life as people would always be on watch if someone died or was about to die. The idea of them being employed is a bit too far but that was a comedy, otherwise it was on point about how events would logically transpire and civilization would return to relative normality!!!FACT!!!

    • 2 months ago
      CreepyThinMan

      >it's expensive. really expensive. no producer with actual money is going to put it into a zombie film. a zombie film is what you make when you want to make dirt-cheap horror.
      >showing the outbreak also means that a hack writer has to justify why the police, military and government were completely wiped out without a trace, and plotting the fall of society which would likely take months or years, if it happened at all, rather than days or weeks.

      This is why the changed WWZ zombies into running 28DL zombies because it's more realistic that such zombies could overwhelm civilization very quickly.

      This is why I want a direct sequel to Return of the Living Dead that takes place right after the nuke goes off and we see the confusion and panic as those type of zombies start swarming by the thousands.

      Now that would be terrifying as they're virtually impossible to kill (no, ROTLD 2 isn't cannon to me so frick you!) and would easily overtake any resistance while the only options are to chop them up and/or burn them which only makes things worse.

      ROTLD is the most nightmarish scenario you could imagine because odds are you'd die then come back as a rotting corpse experiencing unrelenting pain and that doesn't even cover ever single dead organism trying to eat your brains.

      Imagine if the Trioxin hit a fricking zoo!?!FACT!!!

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >it's expensive. really expensive. no producer with actual money is going to put it into a zombie film. a zombie film is what you make when you want to make dirt-cheap horror.

      world war z made a lot of money

      • 2 months ago
        CreepyThinMan

        >world war z made a lot of money

        Yeah because it was a trash PG-13!l action movie disguised as a zombie movie!!!FACT!!!

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >showing the outbreak also means that a hack writer has to justify why the police, military and government were completely wiped out without a trace
      You could just make the zombie virus more infectious assuming you want the zombies to be a world ending threat.

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >zombie apocalypse
    >giant explosions in the distance
    why?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >power always immediately cuts out as if somebody intentionally went over there and switched it to off

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        You can't realistically make the world end with it unless you use constant plot-induced moronation so it's easier to gloss over it.
        Literal magic necromancy zombies could be made to end the world more realistically than almost all forms of infection zombies except airborne. Airborne is the one kind of infectious zombie transmission that could end civilization.

        That's not unrealistic, happens in my redneck area all the time.
        >Giant bang in the distance
        >Power flashes/cuts out
        Methheads exploding or drunkards ramming power poles.

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >most zombie media
    Yeah, no buddy. That's almost all they ever show is the initial outbreak. Just because Walking Dead didn't doesn't make that everything else

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Okay
      >World War Z
      >Dawn of the Dead
      >Dawn of the Dead
      >Night of the Living Dead
      >Shaun of the Dead
      >Contracted
      >Rec
      >28 Days Later
      >Zombie
      >State of Emergency
      >The Crazies
      >The Crazies
      >The Dead Don't Die
      That enough for you, little puppy?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        28 Days Later isn't about the start of the outbreak. It literally starts 28 day AFTER the outbreak has totally decimated the UK.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          It at least shows the cause before they timeskip.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >list DotD and The Crazies twice but not NotLD
        what did he mean by this

        also Return of the Living Dead, Zombieland, Train to Busan, Braindead, I Am Legend

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Shaun of the Dead is absolutely the start of the outbreak

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >nips showing
      >screaming in horror
      damn why is this incredibly hot?

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    World war z

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      that's not a zombie movie

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Yes it is.

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    The first season of Black Summer is that
    although it mostly takes place in a neighbourhood I think

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    sometimes they even take place 28 Days Later

  10. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Just watch Contagion and imagine all the dead bodies coming to life after the credits, and voila, zombie pandemic.

  11. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I want a zombie movie that's like the first 30 or whatever minutes of shaun of the dead or pretty much exactly how the black explains it to him in 28 days later
    >guy going about his life
    >hear about riots and shit happening in other towns/cities
    >gets reported on the news for a bit
    >people and the news stop talking about
    >everybody moves on
    >suddenly it's in your area
    or even something like the special news report extra from the dawn of the dead remake.

  12. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    it's honestly really annoying how little the Walking Dead has explored the initial outbreak
    having anyone who dies come back as long as their brain is fine can lead to so many cool story scenarios

    >Hospital has to deal with bitten patients and the recently departed rising from the dead turning the hospital into a war zone.
    >Military's deployed in third world countries at war dealing with enemy soldiers and fallen comrades coming back as walkers
    >isolated islands with small tribes having their dead come back to life and they think it's an act of God

    You can make a whole season of this shit.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >You can make a whole season of this shit.
      That's exactly what everyone thought the first season of FEAR the walking dead was going to be.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Biggest blue balls I've ever had in a show
        >Hey you want to see society fall apart with lots of action and horror as American countries descend into total chaos?
        >Too bad homosexual. will spend most of the time in some dumb barber shop and when shit starts ramping up will fricking skip like a month ahead and focus on gay human drama like always

        Then it literally just becomes the Walking Dead 2.0 for the next 8 seasons.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Fear the Walking Dead has eight seasons?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            tragic innitit. think of a dumb person you know, half the people are even dumber than that.

  13. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Because most of the first zombie movies explored the outbreak. Night of the Living Dead. Return of the Living Dead, etc... At some point zombie movies had to evolve or people would stop watching them.

  14. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    How did none of that shit wake her up earlier? Shits exploding, cars are zipping around and crashing, ambulances going to and fro, people are screaming and eating each other and dying, and I'm supposed to just believe that her and hubby can't hear any of it?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      They lived in the burbs. And all that shit was literally JUST happening. It wasn't going on for hours and hours or anything. And if you are asleep, with your windows and doors closed, you would be surprised how loud and close something has to be before you will hear it, especially in a deep sleep. I regularly sleep through loud ass thunders storms.

  15. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    coincidentally i just finished watching dawn of the dead 2004 and it wasn't as good as I remember it being

    28 days later, on the other hand, was kino, way better than i remember it being

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      2004 DotD is one of the most overrated horror movies of all time. It's not bad, but I rate it no higher than a 7/10 on the horror scale.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >7 is.. LE BAD

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >anon in charge of reading comprehension

  16. 2 months ago
    Anonymous
    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      What movie is this?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        train to busan the only good zombie film in over a decade

  17. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Return of the Living Dead is the only zombie movie worth a damn. Romero is important but a bit of a homosexual.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Dawn of the Dead 1978
      Day of the Dead 1985
      Night of the Living Dead 1990
      and the Lucio Fulci zombie movies

      ... are all good

      I don't consider 28 Days Later a zombie movie, since the people are "infected" not people who literally died and came back to life.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >and the Lucio Fulci zombie movies
        love these horrible things like you wouldn't believe. the best special effects makeup guys in Hollywood still can't measure up to a greasy italian slapping clay and worms onto some vagrants.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          The Fulci movies have the best "slow" zombies ever put to film. And still the only zombie movie with a scene featuring a zombie versus a shark underwater, for christ's sake. God-tier theme songs and soundtracks, too. I fricking love The Beyond.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            kino imagery. the mixture of zombies and ghosts is also really unique. I love how they can manifest in unexpected places and teleport around.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            But how does zombies knows what sharks is?

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              They don't. But the zombie was underwater and the shark was fricking with it.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              It probably only thought of it as food.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Day of the Dead is an okay movie, the original Night of the Living Dead, if you count that as zombies, is good for what it is. All the movies mentioned are good for their SFX. But in my opinion, Return of the Living Dead looks better, has a better script, is more entertaining, less annoying, funnier, and more memorable. I think it's a good movie on its own terms. The others are boxes to tick to watch zombie movies.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          I never said I didn't love Return of the Living Dead. It's a top-tier zombie movie, and one of the truest examples of a perfect movie. It doesn't have an ounce of fat on it. It's a perfect romp of a movie, from start to finish. I don't think there is one thing that could be taken out, nor one thing that needs added. It's just perfect in that way.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          One of my favorite lines in a movie is from RotWD, when the punks are walking down the sidewalk, talking about the Freddy character starting his new job at the medical supply warehouse, and someone says, "He got a job? What a dick!" KEK

  18. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    The silliest part is that certain anons lump in the 'apocalypse' part like it's some hard requirement. Not every zombie story needs to be some end of the world scenario or even happen on a giant scale. Small scale zombie stories have always been far more enjoyable anyways exactly because of the reasons everyone's bringing up.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I love the opening to Dawn because it doesn't take the apocalypse for granted and actually shows the cops attempting to deal with the problem. same the 'redneck' militias later.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Ayo that looks like Anthony Mackie

    • 2 months ago
      CreepyThinMan

      Burial Ground and Children Shouldn't Play with Dead Things fit that bill along with the Tombs of the Blind Dead series!!!FACT!!!

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I love the opening to Dawn because it doesn't take the apocalypse for granted and actually shows the cops attempting to deal with the problem. same the 'redneck' militias later.

      Night of the living dead is literally just a night and at the end of the movie militias are cleansing the countryside of zombies and Black folk

  19. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    the virgin le scientifically plausible zombie vs the Chad corpse animated by foul necromantic energies

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      This. Why even create "scientifically plausible" zombie stories when everyone breaks down the unscientific nature of them, every fricking zombie is so unscientific it is ostensibly magic so it might as well be magic.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Because it's more interesting when they try to make it feel real.

  20. 2 months ago
    Anonymous
    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      This just reminded me I watched that D-Day zombie movie but I can't remember anything about it. I don't think I hated it, but I don't think I really liked it either.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        World War Z? It was pretty bad. I mean, I guess the movie was okay, but not as good as the book.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          I'm pretty sure

          This just reminded me I watched that D-Day zombie movie but I can't remember anything about it. I don't think I hated it, but I don't think I really liked it either.

          is referring to Overlord which came out about five years ago. Kind of a throwback thriller where the monsters (Nazi zombies, naturally) don't show up until the back half of the movie but once they're there the movie turns into straight action. I didn't love it either but I remember it being at least enjoyable.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        World War Z? It was pretty bad. I mean, I guess the movie was okay, but not as good as the book.

        Overlord?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Be sure to stop watching after the opening credits

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Looks like it's from a parody

    • 2 months ago
      CreepyThinMan

      Yet people worship this fricking moron while the song Zombie isn't even about zombies! Truly a master of symbolism, stupid fricking c**t!!!FACT!!!

  21. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I feel like they almost always show the initial outbreak, and while you are right that it's the most interesting part, a movie requires more than just that.

  22. 2 months ago
    Anonymous
  23. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I feel like they always show the start tho? Not in depth sometimes yeah.

  24. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >the start of the outbreak is always the most interesting and fun
    no it's not. every character has to act like a moron because they don't know what zombies are.
    >omg dude you dont look so good! are you okay?
    >ACK dude why did you bite me?
    >omg i had to kill him, he gave me no choice!
    rinse and repeat a dozen times. the only reason you like the idea of the beginning (and hence why you've made this thread at least 5 times that i've seen) is because you're a moronic chud who fantasizes about a "happening" where social order starts to break down and you can maybe feel like your shitty life actually has meaning because you're gonna be le epic survivor man.

  25. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    The ones who live was pretty decent. In it in some places life has returned to normal. Although they did show footage from recon aircraft with hordes of millions of walkers. Would guess most had vanished by the time, but im guessing it will be dealt with.

  26. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    A big part of it is simply that a zombie outbreak that leads to the end of the world is just not possible with how zombies work.
    For it to work you would need to have your characters at ground zero, you would need the infection time to be almost instant and you would need fast moving, aggressive zombies. Which is also why you tend to see zombie outbreaks in movies that have those rules, like World War Z.
    If the outbreak happened in New York for example, and one zombie went around biting people, it might get a handful of victims before its stopped. Then those victims would go to the hospital assuming they've just been bitten by a drugged out hobo, the oubtreak would be completely contained. And even if it spread it would only ever be an outbreak, there's just too much of a hard limit on the number of victims someone shuffling around on foot can get and most of their victims would be known.
    Even if we assume something like Resident Evil where the rats feeding on zombies spread it to the town, it's still just a town. Think about how long it takes to walk from town to town.
    In a majority of zombie movies the reality is the end of the world wouldn't have happened.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Once they have learned to deal with everyone dying coming back it would mean some changes. Like in the walking dead where im guessing there are ways they deal with natural deaths etc.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Like in the walking dead where im guessing there are ways they deal with natural deaths etc.
        Just insist on cremations

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Like in the walking dead where im guessing there are ways they deal with natural deaths etc.
        Just insist on cremations

        Just put a bullet in their head as they're on their death bed.
        Wouldn't save people from random deaths though.
        >Husband and wife go to bed for the night
        >One of them dies quietly in their sleep without the other knowing
        >Revives and kills/triggers partners infection

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          see

          In TWD there was a well functioning town where they had guards and everyone had bars on their doors. If someone didn't show up to work or whatever they did a wellness check and just stabbed the walker through the bars on the door.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Actually, for a global outbreak to occur, the infection needs to be slow, not fast. When it's slow, people think they aren't infected and travel to other places, then succumb to the infection and infect others. When it's instant, it can be contained to one area because an infected person turns instantly and doesn't take a train or plane to some other place, especially over a body of water.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        that's something I've thought about. if the zombies are fast, and eating people, then it's likely that anyone they catch is going to get stripped like a gazelle and won't make an effective zombie.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          That's another flaw of most zombie movies. Presumably when zombies catch a living person, they are going to consume almost that entire person, leaving nothing left to come back to life. Only a few people would die and have enough of their body left to come back and be a threat. But in every zombie movie the zombies are all walking around without huge chunks of their flesh missing, or even bite marks. The reality is that zombies wouldn't really multiply at all if they are eating people.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            that's something I've thought about. if the zombies are fast, and eating people, then it's likely that anyone they catch is going to get stripped like a gazelle and won't make an effective zombie.

            I think a "realistic" zombie infection would be something like rabies.
            Spread by bites, causes weird aggression related changes to animal behavior, but the animals who bite/get bitten aren't eaten. Its just an aggression thing.
            Obviously its not a "zombie"/undead, but its pretty close in terms of symptoms and spread.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              that;s such a neat take on the whole concept; you should write a screenplay for it, and set it in london, but make it a lunar month after the first events happen.
              homosexual doesn't know where zombies come from

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >get bitten
        >don't receive medical treatment
        This incredibly unlikely scenario would have to play out millions of times for slow zombies to ever become global.

        That's another flaw of most zombie movies. Presumably when zombies catch a living person, they are going to consume almost that entire person, leaving nothing left to come back to life. Only a few people would die and have enough of their body left to come back and be a threat. But in every zombie movie the zombies are all walking around without huge chunks of their flesh missing, or even bite marks. The reality is that zombies wouldn't really multiply at all if they are eating people.

        that's something I've thought about. if the zombies are fast, and eating people, then it's likely that anyone they catch is going to get stripped like a gazelle and won't make an effective zombie.

        In World War Z at least the zombies only try to infect you, after that they leave you alone.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          You misunderstood my post so hard. Try ready more slowly, zoomer.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            I replied directly to your point homosexual. If the infection is slow, i.e. people have time to go get medical treatment and show symptoms before they turn, it would require millions of people ignoring the fact that they've been bitten by someone (who would pretty quickly be figured out to have some sort of infection), not going to any sort of hospital AND then within that time frame travelling somewhere else.
            I don't need to point out the irony of complaining about someone not understanding your post because you didn't understand their's, homosexual.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              In the rabies example, plenty of people get bitten by a bat and not realized it until their partner finds weird looking small bite marks on them.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                I already brought this up with Resident Evil and the rats, which yeah if you want a slow infection to spread realistically having there be some other vector besides human beings is a good way to do it. However you still have the problem of zombies themselves being incredibly poor vectors for infection, so for the outbreak to end the world the alternate way of getting infected would have to pose a significantly bigger problem than the zombies, which kind of removes the point of zombies.
                I think ultimately the problem with zombies and showing the outbreak is that it must inevitably end with societal collapse, which it really doesn't have to and if you want to make an outbreak movie the best thing is to ignore the societal implications and make the scope very personal. If the main character is stuck in some shithole full of zombies then it doesn't matter how small that shithole is, there are still zombies everywhere as far as they are concerned. And then the zombies themselves become an actual threat, because they represent an obstacle that can be escaped, as opposed to most zombie media which defaults to humans are the threat.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >port of madagascar has closed

  27. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    The Stand is the only apocalypse fiction I can think of offhand that devotes a really significant amount of time to the initial outbreak and gradual breakdown of society. It takes up a little more than half the book. It also has a kino interlude about people who survived the superflu only to die from stuff like untreated minor wounds that turned gangrenous or overdosing on drugs.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      In a society without modern medicine, it's amazing how many people die of the most minor shit, like a broken bone or appendicitis. Women die in child birth, etc... That is why a lot couples had like 7-8 kids, because they assume that like half of them would die before even reaching 30.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Rabid does.

      It's funny, most of the others that come close are both small-scale and psuedo-zombies.
      Then you've got some like Shivers and Children Shouldn't Play With Dead things that are like precursors to a full outbreak, ending on a cliffhanger note.

  28. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    zombie shit would never happen

    it would be patient zero and they realise then it's like covid lockdown but worse and like it's not fricking hard to stop when it's clearly a zombie and you have to get bitten like lmao stay home

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Sorry but stopping chinese zombies from flying to any country they want would be racist. Also I'm not going to stop going to crowded parties every night because you can't tell me what to do.

  29. 2 months ago
    CreepyThinMan

    Zombie movies have the same problem as nuclear war dramas. It's the initial build up, event, then what happens shortly after that's most interesting.

    After that it just becomes about survival where in Zombie movies the longer you get away from the initial outbreak you can only have three different scenarios;

    Encounter good people.
    Encounter bad people.
    Encounter zombies.

    Anything beyond those just ends up being boring melodrama as The Walking Dead showed while I can't believe that shit ran for a fricking decade as I dropped it after season 2.

    This is why I'm still mad how that fricking c**t Brad Pitt fricked up World War Z by turning it into a fricking 200 million fricking dollar PG-13 rehash of 28 Days Later.

    It should have been an anthology series with each episode being about interviews with survivors recounting their stories. Or even don't do that because it undercuts any dramatic tension as we know the narrator's survive and just make each episode a new story of someone experiencing the outbreak and how they survive or die.

    I love zombies but they feel played out at this point and time to let them R.I.P....

    !!!FACT!!!

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >I dropped it after season 2
      I did halfway through season 2 when I realized they were never leaving the farm. fans of that show should be rounded up and shot.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I'm currently reading the rereleased of the comic which include commentary on each issue. They stay on the farm for two issues of the comic before getting kicked out and finding the prison. It's great. In the commentary Kirkman talks a lot about how he rushed the story in early issues because he wanted to increase sales early on and how later things would slow way down and given another chance he would slow down the beginning of the story as well. I'm just over a quarter of the way through the series now and when the story slows down it really is hard to stay invested. I was reading every issue as soon as it released (two per month) for the first couple years but now I'm over a year behind and only read a couple here and there to try catching back up.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          I read it from the day it launched until it ended and the beginning with the prison is really good. Kirkman created TWD because he wanted to explore life beyond the initial outbreak, but then the story becomes so repetitive.
          At least the Telltale games tried to do something new with the world, although I only liked S1 and the other seasons were painfully stupid (like most of TWD I guess)

  30. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    everything zombie related has been absolute dog shit since 28 weeks later. I gave up and got into zombie books that actully cover the terror that goes on when things are breaking down. I think one of the reasons is budget but then another big part of it is just how moronic people in positions of power are that work at these studios.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >I gave up and got into zombie books
      are there any good zombie books? I only ever read those old David Wellington books a million years ago.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >are there any good zombie books
        there are 100s of zombie audio books on you tube but its hard to find the really good ones. this one here is one of the best its the first in a series.

  31. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Because zombie movies are sublimated racist movies. Liberals can't cope mentally with what minorities have done to society, so they invented zombies - but the "outbreak" happened 60 years ago, in many cases before they were born. So they aren't interested in that, they're interested in what they see outside their door (Black folk)
    Also zombies are a stupid monster and focusing on how the zombies take over society would highlight the ridiculousness of the concept, obviously people could easily defeat zombies so the whole thing is stupid

  32. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Too scared to do zombies rising from the grave.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Too scared to do zombies rising from the grave.
      the 70s are over boomer

  33. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Despite being a mid 2000s mili-zoomer romance flick, Warm Bodies was actually a "fun" zombie movie; also had some fairly intimidating super zombies. They were of course basically magic in how they operated (iirc correctly they were so far-gone that they had somehow become super-predator uber zombies, as if that somehow could happen) but they were nonetheless cool.
    Just give us some necromancer reanimating the dead and endowing them with magical fortitude so we can have a full on zombie war movie.

  34. 2 months ago
    CreepyThinMan

    Oh and be sure to check out my 30th anniversary review of my favorite movie, Return of the Living Dead....

    https://www.popticnerve.com/2022/07/the-return-of-living-deadfact.html?m=1

    !!!FACT!!!

  35. 2 months ago
    CreepyThinMan

    Finally, 28 Days Later isn't a fricking zombie movie and I'm tired of fricking morons saying it is when a zombie is a dead body motorized by some force but does not return to actual life as we know it.

    28DL is a VIRUS MOVIE and I'm fricking tired of you ignorant wienersuckers thinking it's a zombie movie as the infected can be easily killed while we see at the end tgey basically starve to death while Boyle was a complete and utter fricking pussy by not sticking with the original ending where Jim dies and the two girls go walking down the hall with the doors closing behind them.

    Right there it's a 10/10 classic but the fricking twat just had to ruin it with tgat upbeat happy fricking trash, frick him, they're not zombies and FRICK YOU!!!FACT!!

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      28 Days Later are science zombies. Cope

      • 2 months ago
        CreepyThinMan

        >28 Days Later are science zombies. Cope

        They're people infected with a virus and still alive, not zombies which are motorized corpses!!FACT!!!

  36. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Project Zomboid had the right idea. Its zombie virus has an airborne strain the majority of the planet wasn't immune to, infecting them as if they were bitten. The survivors are people immune to the airborne version, but they still turn from bites.

  37. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Most zombie outbreaks depict society going from normal to complete collapse in a matter of weeks. I think it is more likely a total collapse of civilization would take years, if not decades, and would be the result of humanity not working together.

    >Zombies start popping up all over the world. World goes into lock-down mode; all trade is stopped.
    >Poor/divided countries like in Africa get overwhelmed. Tens of millions of refugees try to migrate to safe countries in Europe and America. This creates filthy and starving refugee camps were people die by the millions and zombie hordes form.
    >The U.S. military deploys overseas to hot-spots, but is quickly exhausted (by fighting locals and zombies) and pull back to defend the U.S.
    >Countries like Russia and China take advantage of the chaos to invade their neighbors. More people die and more zombies appear in the power vacuum. Nukes start flying.
    >People in U.S. rebel against the government's totalitarian policies meant to try and stop the spread. There is a breakdown in social bonds as people fear the internal migration will result in small zombie hordes appearing in their community.
    >Life gets shittier as whole regions fall and resources become more scarce.
    >Eventually only smaller and smaller pockets of government control remain and large swathes of territory are abandoned; filled with growing zombie hordes and pockets of survivors.
    >Small government-controlled safe zones exist but more survivors are not allowed in.

  38. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    because they would have to come up with a believable explanation as to why it happened which is not possible because for some reason outbreaks always happen in big cities and society collapses after less than 1% of peopple have been infected

  39. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Zombie movies are only interesting if they're about a siege. Watching people walk or run around aimlessly is boring.

  40. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    an anthology tv series for World War Z would've been so kino....hopefully the rights are negotiated for one day.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >World War Z
      Overhyped reddit garbage

  41. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    People watch zombie movies for the zombies, not for the parts where we see the characters boring lives before everything goes to hell.

  42. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    In multiple stories the zombie outbreak is viral and outright kills a majority of people so all the systems to deal with a zombie virus are crippled/disbanded. Remember when you couldn't get toilet paper for six months when there was a flu?

    The panic and disorder that would cause would kill more people than the zombies. An interruption in the food/power/medicine distribution would kill all the zoomers that can't feed themselves without using a doordash app.

  43. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Problem with having a zombie movie set years after the outbreak is that there won't be many of them left around. It'd just be a regular apocolypse movie with maybe a light sprinkling of zombies in the background.

  44. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    This is what I imagine you look like when you say that you would just shoot them. You're a fat moron in your mom's house.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      That samurai has more courage than you ever will

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