>Zoomers are now lumping Michael Bay's Transformers films with the "Classic era", apparently blissfully unaware that they were widely trashed by critics and fans alike
What happened? Why do Zoomers have shit taste?
>Zoomers are now lumping Michael Bay's Transformers films with the "Classic era", apparently blissfully unaware that they were widel...
It’s only a few morons who think those movies are good
Bayformers are kino but don't know where they're getting the whole "classic era" from maybe a resurgence can be said was brought forth from the release of the 2007 movie. As after the following year you the get Transformers animated then 3 years later Prime and a year before the gem that was WFC and the rest of the High Moon Studio games (which to be atleast left a lasting impression).
lol then I guess I'm one of those morons
took the words right out of my mouth
These same morons grew up with the Star Wars Prequels. Why are you so shocked by their moronation?
I mean, I don’t necessarily agree with them, but the franchise right now is dreadfully boring (and has been for the past 5 or so years, at least for me), even with the new comics coming out.
It's incredible how the bayformer designs just blend together.
They do, but so do a good deal of G1 designs. I cannot tell most combiner limbs of later g1 guys apart.
Being fair in that specific case you're not really supposed to.
It's the same thing with Star Wars. Sure, the prequels were considered trash at the time, but after the sequel trilogy and all the Disney shit being even worse, they were retroactively vindicated in the eyes of many fans. Sure, everyone hated the original Bayformers trilogy at the time, but when the franchise got even shittier they're now remembered rather fondly. It helps that the Bayformers trilogy ran concurrently with the Prime and Animated cartoons and Cybertron games. So yeah, 2007-2012 really were the peak of the Transformers franchise.
>all the Disney shit being even worse
Also, The Force Awakens was well received by damn near everyone. It wasn't until Last Jedi that opinion on the ST started to sour, and even then it was just a vocal minority.
1 good show, 1 decent movie, and 1-2 decent seasons of a show (Mandalorian) are a drop in the bucket compared to the monsoon of terrible Star Wars media we've been getting since 2016. The ratio is like 1-50. And TLJ and Rise of Skywalker were so bad they retroactively made TFA unenjoyable. A good first act is meaningless if the rest is shit. Also, no amount of coping or mental gymnastics will change the fact that the sequel trilogy as a whole is almost universally considered a failure on every level. Don't give me that "vocal minority" bullshit.
>first 2 installments are both certified fresh
>$4.475 billion total box office
>failure on every level
Also, a lot of fans still enjoyed Rouge One, Solo, the new Jedi games and Visions.
You're in a thread about the Michael Bay Transformers movies and you're unironically trying to use box office numbers as an argument that your favorite movie isn't garbage.
>box office numbers
And Rotten Tomato scores.
Check the audience score next time, moron.
>what is spamming and bot manipulation?
>what is paid off shills giving high scores to woke pandering garbage regardless of actual quality
Then why wasn't RoS or any of the Disney live-action remakes given high scores?
Also, to quote Cinemaphile's favorite antisemite, "just wailing on woke stuff all the time is pretty lazy."
Because RoS spat in the faces of TLJ fans ("professional" film critics) and pandered the lowest common denominator possible. While TLJ spat in the faces of TFA fans. Are you starting to see why this trilogy is literally universally hated?
>this trilogy is literally universally hated
Only RoS. In fact, a lot of fans prefer to just imagine we got Colin Trevorrow's Episode IX instead.
I think TLJ is way more hated. RoS if anything felt like a drop in the bucket.
Even if TLJ was as generally liked as TFA as you claim, that would hardly change anything. A shitty final chapter in an otherwise good series is DAMNING. Look at Game of Thrones. That show is despised just because of the final season. Endings are the most important meal of the day. Hell, I'm willing to bet you the main reason there's so many prequel apologists is because the final movie happened to also be the least bad.
>the final movie happened to also be the least bad
That's really not saying much.
Then why are the original Star Wars and Empire Strikes Back still beloved to this day despite Return of the Jedi being ass?
Jedi is the most flawed of the original trilogy, yeah, but it's still kino and ends on a high note. RoS ends on a wet fart.
Everyone who liked TFA didn't by the end. People who like TLJ also didn't like the end. It was inoffensive in that the only old character who dies was dead IRL. But it was really cringey and going out on a wet nostalgic fart is worse than some misfire.
Hey, guess what, moron. The only logical conclusion to draw from this is that BOTH movies are garbage, not that the audiences are magically right about RoS but magically wrong about TLJ because you say so.
Was the Obi-Wan show bad? The Vader fight was kino from what I've seen
>The Vader fight was kino from what I've seen
The fight was extremely moronic when you notice how stupidly directed it is. The rocks part is still extremely cringe and hamfisted.
And yes, in case you still can't tell, the show was bad. Exceedingly bad.
please return to whatever hellscape bizarro universe you came from and stay there.
The cartoons did most of the legwork in redeeming the prequels before the ST made it mainstream.
You're probably right, but I didn't feel that way in 2010 and I still don't. To me TCW is a solid action cartoon that happens to piggyback off of very shit movies. It doesn't redeem the prequels at all.
The prequels were always good.
>t. 1997 zoomer who watched them in 2006
>The prequels were always good.
>>t. 1997 zoomer who watched them in 2006
As a 2002 zoomer, I must admit that it was quite the startling surprise to learn that everyone hated the prequels through watching RLM and the Nostalgia Critic. Funnily enough, it also startled me to learn everyone hated the Bayformers movies.
What’s funny is that people think the plinkett reviews is what started the hate.
>It helps that the Bayformers trilogy ran concurrently with the Prime and Animated cartoons and Cybertron games.
They weren't just concurrent with that stuff, they singlehandedly facilitated it and almost everything since. Transformers never struggled for relevance to the degree that G.I. Joe or Masters of the Universe did, but the Bay movies were a huge shot in the arm.
https://desuarchive.org/co/search/text/zoomers%20are%20now%20lumping/
Mental illness
Nostalgia. That said, I think Transformers as a whole was in a more interesting place from 2007-2012 than it has been since, and the Bayformers were part of that -- especially the toys. I don't expect everyone in Transformers threads to care about the toys, but that has to be a big part of the fondness. To put it in perspective, Peaugh's ROTF Optimus Prime toy video has 5.4 million views.
It started when Hasbro got heavily involved in the franchise after Beast Wars ended and they didn’t know what to do with transformers after. They relied on Takara to dish out the japanese toys & anime shows for the first half of the 2000s. No one in charge cared about all the dumb decisions being made before going into making the first live-action movie, which led to Hasbro inevitably winging it with Micheal Bay. As for the bayformer designs, this was the same Hasbro that tried to make Transtech a thing a years prior.
That’s not quite true, while Hasbro didn’t have much to do with the animes beyond conceits, they did dictate a lot of the toy lines and designs. That’s why they’re so heavily gimmick based
Zoomers? More than children watched the Bay garbage, that's why they kept making them.
this thread was created by a zoomer with no creativity
Star Wars is dogshit that only moronic amerimutts enjoy
Millennials do the same with the Star Wars prequels. We're not special.
>this fricking schizo again
https://desuarchive.org/co/search/text/%22blissfully%20unaware%22/type/op/start/2020-03-12/
Bayformers was a masterpiece. I wouldn't trade the first three films for anything.
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>widely trashed by critics and fans alike
The first movies printed money and were praised.
>The first movie
ftfy by making it singular
Zoomers haven't seen Bayformers.
>Zoomers haven't seen Bayformers.
Lol I'm a zoomer and I did hell one of my earliest memories is that of the 2007 movie
Always hated the modern movies and also hate how it ruined Bumblebee by all of a sudden taking the unassuming kid's sidekick character and turning him into the Scrappy Doo/Poochy of the franchise to the point Hasbro has to put him front and center in everything in some big bulky warrior form when the reason he's called 'Bumblebee' in the first place is due to his small size and lack of offense that was best used for scouting and spying.
The newest comic series offing him in the first issue could have been a sign somebody at Hasbro is sick of it too but they'll probably just going to bring him back voiceless like the first Bayformers movies did.
Wanna say the writer said he's dead dead
I'd say at most they bring him back as Goldbug or with the G2 facemask
The movie is the reason Bumblebee is even a prominent character. Hasbro had lost the license to the name and were content to just use Hot Shot as their new Bumblebee/Hot Rod since they lost the rights to both those names. Ironically, the 2007 movie, despite completely changing the characters, is the reason characters like Ratchet, Ironhide, Jazz, etc became prominent again.
Why do you talk to so many zoomers and at such regular intervals to know what they as a group generally have an opinion of?
Didn't you make a pokemon version of this thread on Cinemaphile? Is this website just bots now?