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Feels like a video game moment.
>oh no, a tiny tree branch is in the way, you have to go find an axe to cut it
literally grug caveman tier logic lol, disney doesnt care
>oh no, a tiny tree branch is in the way
That was in part 1
He doesn't even need to walk around. He already blew the last fire out with the force 30 seconds ago .
I don't understand. Why is it so shit?
its deliberate. Disney has found its cheaper and easier to profit off of your outrage rather than your praise
Good thing I don't talk about it anywhere but here then
trips of truth bro
the whole show is already a piss take. might as well make it literal
that move was on CD
That's a ridiculous comparison, they'd never have someone stopped by a tiny tree branch in this show.
Fricking hell.
GIRL BOSS
Ya i caught that too
People don't read, they game. It's more obvious with millenials.
This episode had 2 90's RPG moments: the laser gate and the fire scene.
The laser gate was moronic.
its dark souls 2 tier.
>oh no this rubble is in my way better go kill some demigods to remove it
Or like when there's a slight hill in the way and your character can't walk up it for whatever reason..I hate lazy map barriers in games, ruins it when you're in a survival horror game and there's a table in the way (but it's really just the edge of the map) it really kills my immersion. JUST PUT A CONCRETE WALL THERE. A TABLE? LAZY FRICKS.
I've been playing sniper elite 5 and although it's a great game it's bad for this in places, the worst part is you can mantle, it's just random spots you arbitrarily can't and unlike a lot of things like this there's no way to tell visually if you can or not, although i'm 4 levels in and that has mostly just applied to the first level so far, I guess they just didn't want it to be completely an open field
Kek
>put guards there that your super-powered anime hero doesn't want to upset because plot
>erect a magic barrier
>if the hero's abilities are a little more grounded, have a landslide turn a mountain pass into a cliff or have a gate with a locked door
>have the hero refuse to take that route because there's an enemy that way that's too strong at the moment
How hard is it to create a believable obstruction that the hero can't pass through?
>walks around it, in your path
heh nothing personal kid
jedi can force jump, although in kotor, if you had heavy/medium/light armor, you could not force jump. But what about walking to Obi-Wan?
this man is a genius. somebody should hire him to write billion dollar shows
what about the fricking stormtrooper standing in the embers? is he a poo or something?
they forgot to add a cartoon *yeooooch!!* sound effect for that stormtrooper as he hops from one foot to another
have you seen it? i doubt they'd forget details like that
That anon's lying. The entire crux of that scene involves the storm trooper standing on those embers, and then doing a patented Disney Goofy Holler. Vader is so distracted, he misses Obi fleeing the scene.
currently getting elephant's footed
bro, vader's suit can literally withstand lava
he dove into the lava river in mustafar and nothing happened to him
this just was shit writing all over
>he dove into the lava river in mustafar and nothing happened to him
when?
in the comics
>Comics
lol who cares? That's at the other end of stupid to this small fire
I'm just saying
he could have used the force to put the fire off and it woudn't take him anything second to do it
Anything that isn't live-action may as well be non-canon with how Disney ignores and retcons them without a care.
Reminder that the Grand Inquisitor is confirmed dead in Kenobi.
I was honestly surprised Vader didn't Force hover-choke himself over the fire and continue pursuing Obi-Ben.
lmao. that could work
I wonder if it worked so you "choke" your arm instead, so you get the hover effect but no damage to your throat
Vader could have lifted the entire mass of sand on fire and tossed it aside. He could have grabbed the sniper, obi-wan, and the robot and immobilized them even until the fire was out. All of their suits are flame resistant in lore and could easily withstand running through it. The writers just wanted an easy out, but somehow forgot they literally just showed him blow the flames out so it was extra stupid.
>sand
But he let him go despite telling the stormtroopers to bring him to him 10 seconds ago
I wonder if the budget was constrained. If they made a much larger fire, then you could argue that Vader used up all his force energy from putting out the fire the first time around and didn't have enough mana for the second time
>I wonder if the budget was constrained.
25mil an episode. 25mil an episode and they couldn't even do a real fire
Small indie studio with no experience, prease understand.
>ugh Vader could have just used the Force to stop the Falcon, didn't Lucas read the wiki? writing bad
You don't understand, it was basically
>It's fun when I do it but when someone else does it it stops being fun
It's perfectly in character for Vader to stop enjoying shit as soon as it stops being special. Anakin is a drama queen.
Star Wars is better when the Force is more limited, tbqh.
HE WAS LITERALLY LIFTING OBI-WAN 10 FEET IN THE AIR A MOMENT AGO AND FOR NO REASON PUT HIM DOWN THEN ASKED THE STORM TROOPER TO GET HIM
WHY THE FRICK DIDN'T HE JUST LIFT OBI-WAN TO HIM? SOMEBODY EXPLAIN
He sprained a Force muscle.
He was disgusted at how weak Kenobi was.
He was expecting a proper fight. A fierce Kenobi beating him down again but this time he will prevail after a colossal struggle.
Instead Kenobi was literally running and cowering from him the whole time and looked like he was suffering from dementia.
This was clearly the implication plus I wonder if he knew Reva just abducted his daughter. Vader got weird at the end
>AAAGGHH I HATE YOUUUUUUUU but I of course will duel you in a proper fight at full strength, and if I see you weak and having medical problems I will risk you dying elsewhere and not by my hand when I say so.
Does fit Anakin's personality to be fair.
Rather let Obi-Wan die to someone else if he's that pathetic, than waste his time killing someone washed up and weak like that.
You don't get it anon. Just killing Kenobi wouldn't be enough, he had to prove that he was better than him at his best. Just like in ANH, how Vader seems disappointed when Kenobi just disappears.
>Vader seems disappointed when Kenobi just disappears.
Or you know, he was just shocked and wondering how his physical body just vanished.
He just stood there confused and tapped the robe with his foot.
It's not just about killing Kenobi - he has something to prove.
Not that it matters. I think we all know deep down that Vader is being written this way so that the writers can have him let people go when they need to, like when he pretend to fall for one of Leia's tricks in the nu-comics.
palps secretly installed a Force Inhibitor into vader's suit that turns on at random times.
honestly, he sensed something, and sent the storm trooper over to bait out whatever he sensed, causing the chick to reveal herself.
Still the entirety of the scene is bullshit and they are really fricking up the lore.
He was just toying with obiwan
He could have just forcesnapped his neck like he did that kid but nope gotta drag him through the fire for amusement
Nintendo, hire that anon!
Vader let him go
2022 and still don't know the inner fight Anakin has with himself? Embarassing
Star Wars is capeshit but come on you can’t honestly believe this. Vader in this show has been shown to be nothing other than a ruthless killer.
The whole point of Vader’s internal struggle was that Luke initiated it in ROTJ by giving himself up to the emperor proving that he wasn’t destined to be like his father. Also proving that his father wasn’t destined to be like how Vader acted the past few decades. Luke strikes him down in anger exposing that Vader also has a mechanical hand and despite all they have in common Luke’s path forward doesn’t have to mirror his father’s.
Sure, maybe Vader somewhat struggles in this show. But enough to let OBI WAN KENOBI get away? No, that shits on the OT and Luke’s sacrifice. Par for the course given Disney’s history I guess.
I’ll add, I can see Vader letting him go to frick with him more and torture him. But I can’t see him letting him go from internal struggle given when the show takes place.
He already begun having doubts when Luke escapes in ESB and he cant be bothered to kill his lackeys, just walking away all moody
>Vader in this show
Yeah, but Vader in the canon, literally starting from the very first sequel to the original, is shown to be incredibly emotionally unstable and moody. He's ruthless until he comes face-to-face with the people he cares about, as most people are.
>OBI-WAN AND ANAKIN ARE AKCHUALLY LE GAY FOR EACH OTHER
frick off shill
Didn't they imply that Obi-Wan had a thing for Padme in this?
Nah he was just saying he wished he could be her real father because he knows what it's like to not have a real father.
>Obi-Wan had a brother
Will we ever see him?
Anakin was his brother.
And a good friend.
He is asian guy
>Didn't they imply that Obi-Wan had a thing for Padme in this?
Yeah. He wanted to nut in her.
that would've been a more interesting story arc for the prequels. that would really define anakin's incel rage against obi-wan if padme lost interest in anakin after he joined the dark side and decided to roll with obi-wan instead
Yo can't Jedi like run really fast? As in run really fast through fire? Did I imagine that part of Phantom Menace?
You can only run fast in robes or lightweight clothing. If you wear metal armor or heavy shit, you lose the fast run ability
But like, why? Isn't it force bullshit either way? Just run really fast through the fire Vader. Don't Sith get off on pain too? Couldn't he just walk through slowly and get a turbo dark side boner from burning himself?
fricking heavy armor
vader has metal legs, he can walk over quickly and probably be fine. his cape might catch on fire for a bit tho.
He forgot he could grab him like he did 10 seconds ago.
He forgot he could grab him like he did 10 seconds ago
He also forgot he could put out the fire like he did 10 seconds ago
this isn't even the worst part. the cringiest part is when kenobi slices a steam pipe and sends a billow of smoke out everywhere and runs about a yard away like a bunch of smoke is going to distract vader for more than a few seconds lol
I thought the Leia chase scene was poorly done because she's just a kid, but no. The Vader scene was the SAME EXACT SHIT. This show is so unbelievably bad.
Slow ass chase scenes are a Nu Wars tradition now. It started with Power Rangers in the Boba Fett show
It started with TLJ, where fuel is a problem in the frictionless vacuum of space
i guess leia used the force to slow down her pursuers kek. seeing Flea in that scene reminded me of his cameo in Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas. If you compare the two scenes, they're strikingly familiar. maybe i need to watch Obi-wan Kenobi on acid like i did with Fear and Loathing
Vader can probably just walk through that, I know stormtroopers could at least
how fricking moronic are these movies these days and the people who PAY to watch them?
I've seen Steve-O roll around in hotter coals.
HOLY SHIT ANOTHER STAR WARS THREAD ON Cinemaphile WOW I SURE AM GLAD THEY BANNED ALL DEPPTHREAD POSTS SO WE CAN FILL THE FRONT PAGE WITH DISNEY PLUS CONTENT FELLOW REDDITORS GOD I LOVE THIS BOARD
LOL
Unironically why isn't there a /sw/ board?
If /vp/ can have their own board why can't we do?
vp is the dumbest frickin board on the site, doesnt stop anyone from making pokemon threads on Cinemaphile at all, i wish it was contained and controlled as hard as you morons give a shit about the MLP board.
I think this was the real one right? What a pathetic man-child.
I wish i could feel even one of these emotions
so does he.
i'll bet what's really making him cry tears of joy is the money he'll be making off moron subscribers and sponsors who actually believe he's really that much into this shit
The dudes's videos never hit more than a couple hundred views, with the one in that .webm being the exception.
>Kaposi's Sacroma on his face and neck.
Has he done an AIDS test recently?
prob won't until CD4+ is below 50, then here comes MAC meningitis, RIP
They banned deep threads?
Jannies are trannies
Star Wars is actually film and television, unlike some has-been celebrity's court bullshit.
Though I agree. Disney as a whole should have its own containment board ala /vp/ and /mlp/. This is getting ridiculous.
this was so fricking stupid
if they don't fix it by vader saying he let him go, then it's shit writing
He literally did let him go, that's the fricking point. Jesus Christ, these Disney shows are shit but they're exactly what Star Wars fans deserve. I guess they should have had a Stormtrooper walk up to Vader and screamed "YOU'RE LETTING HIM GO!?" and then Vader could take off his helmet and a single tear would slide down his cheek. Fricking hell.
makes perfect sense that'd he'd let larry go despite being perfectly willing to fight him, torture him and order a stormtrooper to retrieve him beforehand.
Have you never had second thoughts about doing something while you're in the middle of it? I'm sure you've questioned why you're jacking off to something. This is like an analogue to that except for people who have to make important life decisions.
This only happens the instant that one b***h shows up to rescue larry. Nothing we've seen in the episode until that point indicates vader had second thoughts about capturing the fricker so it ends up looking like darth's unable to walk around a small fire which is reasonable when you take this
into consideration.
>Nothing we've seen in the episode until that point indicates vader had second thoughts about capturing the fricker
Yes, but everything in the entire series indicates he has emotional issues and is constantly conflicted in the same way Kylo is, just to a less embarrassingly obvious degree. The fire flaring to up like it did would stop anyone in their tracks. And when you stop, you think; and when you think, you doubt - especially when it comes to killing this poor facsimile of the best friend you've been seething about for so long. I agree it should have been set and framed better, but people are missing the point of the scene. Vader - in that small moment - didn't want to cross the flames. Or at least the part of him that did couldn't overpower the part that didn't. The duality between him and Anakin has been established since ESB when the two became the same character.
I think the idea was that he at first wanted to see his friend/mentor burnt and tortured as he was, but like you say a brief pause in this made him reflect on it. In front of him was Kenobi, burnt and weak... pathetic looking really, being carried away by a droid, similar to Anakin having to be patched up by medical droids.
The problem is that in competent hands this scene would play out in a more operatic sense but it just looks really lame since Vader is pulling people out of their houses with the force one second and now he's like standing there and doesn't even want to walk around a small area on fire.
And the whole "they got away" thing is ludicrous since he'd have at least one destroyer in orbit and likely multitudes of smaller craft around just in case. But no... "they got away".
It was presented in a way that implied Vader didn't continue with chasing Obi. He pondered about it for like 30 seconds standing still while shit was going on around him.
This is true, sure, but then why didn't the stormtroopers get him? Vader told them to bring him to him and they don't have the whole conflict going on, so why didn't they just walk around and pick Obi-Wan up?
it would have been cool if he split the fire mosses style. oh well.
darth bladder
he was having like a PTSD flashback about being burned i guess
but this was like a thing then why would he live on the lava planet where he was burned
is Rogue One still canon?
It was the combination of ten years of pent-up rage, realizing the futility of killing a washed up and pathetic Obi-Wan, and probably to a degree seeing Obi-Wan in pain and suffering the same pain he did. Vader thought he wanted it, but he didn't. At least not in that moment.
Damage control
It was shot like shit, but the literal fricking 30-second closeup of Vader's "face" as he just stood there and stared into the fire should be self explanatory. If this were damage control I wouldn't agree that the scene was fricking lame. Or maybe I would!!!! Maybe I'm just a false flagger because I can interpret human emotions correctly between characters in a film.
>I can interpret human emotions from vaders face mask
even the shills are moronic
You can interpret the implied emotion when the camera lingers on his fricking mask for, again, thirty seconds. Usually this is code for staring longingly or thoughtfully at something. I know this is a big surprise for someone who only watches capeshit and nu-Wars. You know what he should have done? Thrown his arms up and given us a big "NOOOOO!" again! That would've done it!
>staring longingly
You're the reason they had Master Chief take off his helmet 90% of the time in that shitty Halo show.
you're the one commenting on the acting skills of a plastic mask
Did you not see episode 6
see human emotions on a mask, hahahahahahaha ohh wait you were being serious let me laugh even harder hahahahahahahahahahahahsh
okay so vader is a homosexual too gotcha, still not gonna watch anything beyond lucas
Are you serious? Vader has always been a homosexual since Star Wars '77 got a sequel. "Oh no the heckin big cyborg man has emotions!" Yeah, that's the point of the overarching two trilogies you dumb fricking gay.
So he kills him in episode 4 why? He was literally defenseless
The implication is that Obi-Wan rediscovers his will to fight after this scene at some point. In this series, he's running from Vader like a coward; in the original Star Wars, he pursues Vader and basically gives him no choice but to fight to the death, which of course as we know was a ruse all along. Even if Vader had conflicting emotions at this point, in his position he can't afford Obi-Wan infiltrating the Empire's most important weapon and getting out alive.
This discussion is problematic in general though, because ESB and RotJ Vader is a vastly different character than ANH Vader already. Or at least his intentions are vastly different. We've been retconning Vader since literally the third sequel, and it was only really by the third film - and some might even say the sixth - that his entire character was bared to us, and it was a man with a lot of regret as opposed to the automaton-like space enforce of the original film.
> he pursues Vader and basically gives him no choice but to fight to the death
?
Ben Kenobi runs into Vader in a hallway, Vader even has his lightsaber activated already. Kenobi doesn't pursue him at any point
At any rate the stupidity of this show is that it has Kenobi rediscover his purpose in life... By abandoning quite literally his only mission in life (Luke) and having adventures off planet. It's bad writing because it's tailored to fanservice (we'll have Kenobi and Vader fight, we'll have prequel flashbacks, we'll have cameos by all the original cast), instead of telling an actual story
Obi-Wan knows from the second he steps onto the Death Star what his plan is: to be killed by Vader and become a force ghost in front of Luke to give him the volition to fight him personally. From Vader's point of view, at that point, it's either kill or be killed. Kenobi is never fazed about his confrontation with Vader because he planned it. Vader has no time to consider killing him because Kenobi is actually a threat to him again at this point, unlike in the Disney series. I agree that the basic structure of this series is pretty shit, but there's nothing odd about Vader letting Obi-Wan get away or having conflicting emotions about killing him.
Obi-wan literally wanted to die since he was at the end of his life, it would distract vader, and he would still be able to help luke. Obi-wan pretty much self destructed himself and became a force ghost
Vader was chasing a nice orgasm but his Obi-Dick was old and not up to the task. He's been fantasizing about the biggest cums for literal decades, but then when he was about to ejaculate he discovered Obi Wan is not at all who he imagined him to be.
obi wan disappears before vader's lightsaber even touches him. plus vader would've looked like a cuck in front of the entire empire if obi wan deactivated his lightsaber and just stood there while vader did nothing.
>Lives on volcano planet
>Suit isn't heat-resistant
It doesn't even need to be heat resistant. He can put out the fire. He did it before. He could walk around. He could get those stormtroopers to just throw sand on it.
WHY IS IT SO SHIT!?
>He could get those stormtroopers to just throw sand on it.
>sand
>sand
Jej
He's a Jedi, he could just do a triple double somersalt flip twist over it and then force speed himself over to Obiwan while force healing away all his lava damage.
He doesn’t like sand remember
>Surrounds himself with what he fears so he can channel it into the Force
>Telekinesis, abbreviated TK, was a neutral ability that most Force-sensitives had which allowed them to move and otherwise manipulate physical matter in a variety of ways, all with the power of the Force. The ability was virtually ubiquitous among Force-sensitive individuals and organizations, though the techniques could differ greatly. It had a tremendous number of applications, both combative and utilitarian.
>Luke tell you sister you were right about me. I don't think Obi Wan let her see me snap that kids neck. There's still some good left
That scene was moronic because it completely misunderstood episode 2 and 3
I thought it was a bit OOC too. Vader may be an evil son of a b***h but he's not a murderhobo. He should have been able to sense Obi-wan anyway, especially with all the fear Obi-wan was feeling.
Vader knows Obi-Wan can't escape the planet and Vader can track Obi-Wan with the force so there's no need to rush things, Vader wants to frick with Obi before Vader kills him
Good to know Vader is one dumb c**t and always has been
Yes. He's over confident in his abilities.
Why didn't he hear that next round of stormtroopers coming?
It would take him no longer than 5 seconds to walk around.
>this whole thread
are you people fricking autistic?
I'm just not going to pretend like disney is telling me a competent story
Yes. Maybe 1/25 people know what they're talking about
>Bring him to me.
>I'll let him go.
Huh?
What gets me is that they just slowly walk off on the other side, and then are just like “we need to get our transport ship”.
I think it looks cool
What is happening on set that they can't understand the geography of where they're filming?
>oh no a little branch
>oh no, another thing I can easily sidestep
Honestly it's fricking absurd
I thought using those rear projections allowed for bigger sets and for them to see the scenario in unreal engine or whatever to shoot and apply the logistics accordingly
but their thought process is like a production filming it all in green screen and figuring out the mechanics in post production afterwards
Why the greenscreen gun prop? What's wrong with an actual prop?
They probably want all possible options open to them.
If a different gun sells more toys, change it to that, if a different design is thought you have it still open, if country X doesnt accept guns then make it into something else and so forth
It's probably to let it all be chosen in post-production and not have the need to reshoot shit
This. I was also thinking how there's a trend lately of re-using old footage in new movies and re-contextualizing them to make them fit. By shooting it on a greenscreen they could use the same footage again later for something else and have more options open for when they do so, especially if that scene gets cut.
I dunno, ask Alec Baldwin
>can go around either side of that laser fence
>takes the time to break it anyway
i thought he was at least going to take that truck because he decided to break the fence, but nope
maybe he thought the gate was a sith and had to put it down
>where they're filming
I've seen other sets using that projection where they're bigger and have more real props, but yeah the impression the final product gives is they're filming entirely on a tiny little space and they dont even know what the geography is
otherwise anyone on set would have gone "we need to rewrite this or remake this space so Obi Wan or that character isn't reachable through just 5 extra steps"
Honestly, it's clear that they're filming on a pretty small set. Leia and Obi-wan are running at a brisk jog
not only that but the camera keeps cutting every 2 seconds. it takes me out when I know a character walked a few steps and then they reset the scene so he can go back and do a few more steps.
>is this good, guys?
>women: yeah it's fine, it looks really real
that looks photoshopped
yeah you dingleberry, it's mocking how the original looked like he was in front of a painted wall
The hallway Leia kept running down was the same 10 feet
Another moment is when Obi-Wan is panicking to go around that laser gate thing that cut the stormtrooper in half, he ends up shooting it.
But the geography of the scene means all he had to do was pick up Leia, and walk around the gate.
It was sloped up like a small hill, a man, a child, whatever anyone, could easily have walked around the gate
>sloped up like a small hill
On the right side it even looks relatively flat
Haven’t watched it but can someone tell me if they used James earl jones voice?
>can someone tell me if they used James earl jones voice?
sad fricking franchise when the literal saturday morning cartoon version of the same character makes more sense
As much as people here act like they hate star wars, comic book movies, and porn, it's basically all they ever talk about. The entire catalog was wall to wall batman at one point.
crazy that people talk about new things when they come out
There's probably some new rap out. I don't talk about it, because I don't like rap. We'll see if you're smart enough to find the connection, but I have my doubts.
i'm sure if you go on Cinemaphile there are threads talking about said new rap
its almost like people like things that you don't
I see the point has flown a mile overhead
no, you're just moronic
Based illiterate anon
There’s literally a stormtrooper beside Obi wan. You posted the scene before the actual fire, stupid Black person.
>Obi-Wan effortlessly mows down like 7 stormtroopers and a probe droid at the check point
>3 stormtroopers show up after this
>Obi-Wan instantly surrenders for literally no reason, giving him and Leia up presumably to summary execution
Why?
So the woman could save them
yep
I groaned at that too
Did nobody notice the fricking edition mistake when assembling Vader? One arm is pluged in, then next take when putting his back armor he's armless again. I mean come on
i went back and watched it and youre right. this show sucks so hard
He was burned alive. They are absolutely going to do some PTSD story with him having a fear of fire if not in this show than the Vader spinoff.
but he doesn't
he literally lives in the middle of a lava planet and in the same spot where obi-wan left him to die
They can concoct any number of bullshit reasons for that. Like being on the lava planet so close to the sauce of his trauma helps with his darkside shit because fear leads to anger blah blah. They are 100% going to pussify Vader by making him freak outs because The Force Is Female and women are obsessed with trauma.
yes, they already did that in the comics and mustafar is a planet strong in the dark side so that's even better for him
Even if Vader is afraid "Fear leads to anger", so he'd just be afraid for 0.1 nanoseconds and then just move in Anger (the dark side)
If they actually try and make Vader really afraid, as in he won't go next to fire, that'd just be bad writing.
A man as strong as Vader, wouldn't let his fears control him, I used to have phobias, trauma, and I got rid of them by facing them, I don't believe Vader is so weak that in the 10 years timespan off screen, on many battles against Jedi, fighting for his life, and the military campaigns that he had never dealt with his fears.
A Sith needs to understand fear.
All great points, here is my retort. Women writers.
The dude literally lives on a lava planet.
He caused the fire himself, what the frick are you on about
Diversity hires ruin manchild soap opera.
What is happening to the visuals? Even Boba Fett episodes looked better
thought it was based until i realized vader wasn't going to summon brandon lee
>all these brainlets seething
FRICK YOU OBI WAN
NOT FALLING FOR IT AGAIN "BROTHER"
kek
Vader could've walked through the fire. His suit is fireproof. Also, force push the flammable materials away.
At this point I honestly think Kathleen Kennedy simply does not know what good direction is.
She's in charge of this multi-billion dollar franchise and she can't hire someone with an eye for space opera to helm this?
I mean look at this episode.
This is the first time Kenobi and Vader meet after Mustafar. And for this moment they chose some unremarkable planet that AGAIN looks like some sparsely populated dirt shithole with a small street of huts and like ... Vader and Kenobi go face to face in like ... a dirt dump lot full of piles of dirt. That's it.
That's the best they could've come up with for a space opera confrontation. Piles of dirt on a dirt lot on a dirt planet.
And it's directed in such a mundane and boring way that there's zero tension to it. Zero stakes. Zero thrills. Zero action, zero everything.
A fricking film student could at 4AM come up with a storyboard better than that and likely come up with a better location/backdrop too.
It just shows that Kennedy and Chow simply don't have an eye for space opera. They likely don't even GET the concept. This was literally directed as if it were some generic police procedural at best.
They will fight on Mutsafar later, it will be 1v1 confrontation with both sides bringing their best.
Think it's episode 5 or 6, next episode is Obi-Wan recovering.
Not saying you're wrong about anything, just saying they're aware of what audiences want for this 'epic' moment, this was all leaked months ago you can read it on Plebbit.
It's just that the whole thing looks so bland and joyless.
I'm not some Favreau/Filoni fanboy, but they at least have some energy in their work. You can tell they're having FUN with what they do.
Hell even Bryce nails it when Mando take his new ship for a spin. That's what soul is all about. Enjoying your work.
This on the other hand looks like some pasionless job. Completely dry execution as if it's directed my some machine learning algorhythm.
Bingo
>They will fight on Mutsafar later, it will be 1v1 confrontation with both sides bringing their best.
It baffles me that any Star Wars fan ever wanted this as if this was a sports/esports match and not a fricking fictional story written by another man
nobody wanted anything like that. they were perfectly happy with obi-wan being a hermit for 20 years doing nothing. star wars died with tlj, nothing disney does is canon. imo it's just the lucas films
didnt the latest episode prove the leaks wrong
No not really, it said there was at least 2 fights between Vader and Obi-Wan.
They also say virtually nothing to one another, which is insane considering how much history they have as brothers who fought in a long war together and spent over a decade as master and student. Like, why didn't Vader blame him for his wife/children dying and Obi Wan having to lie while scared shitless.
>sand: slavery
>fire: missing limbs
>high ground: nonexistent
Chow is a technician and had some of the must tepid Mano episodes. Kennedy is a wine aunt boomer that shouldn't have any creative sway over anything but being the fixer for production.
>Luke's uncle & aunt incinerated
>multiple dismemberments
>tens of thousands vaporized on space stations, whole planets
Yet they still made something more like nuPicard. ffs
>holy frick this looks like garbage
>lets ADR a bunch of lines
>there all better
Who the frick is in charge of this? This is like the 3rd episode in a row where some small obstacle stopped the bad guys
It wouldn't have bee stupid if Vader hadn't instantly put out the same fire with the Force moments before.
why did they nerf obi wan bros
Would be boring if he just steamrollered through Vader from the start also there's been about eleven times he could have solved the plot with Jedi mind trick so can't let him have that.
hes been packing meat for 10 years
imagine not lifting for 10 years and then going to try to pull a 800lb deadlift
>why did they nerf obi wan bros
Because he's a fricking white male.
>Woman takes Leia into tunnel heading from A to B
>Black Woman enters tunnel heading from A to B
>Woman goes back to help Obi-Wan, heading from B to A
>Woman does not encounter black woman
>Black woman arrives at B without encountering Leia
That's not how the force works
force speed. this b***h is probably A-Train/Flash going by her black scaling
Yeah but if you can go Sonic fast why wait around at the end? Just swoop in and kidnap Leia in the middle of the tunnel.
>Kidnap Leia
LEIA? You just said Leia! You know we're looking for a jedi who's 3d scanned face was already issued to bounty hunters, but not apparently to us. But your story seems plausible.
Is this from Joker or something?
She parkoured all aroud the tunnel.
Yeah I was really confused. I guess force camoflage is a thing but you need to at least show what's happening, or else it look like she fricking teleported.
Why the frick does the show have so many errors like this?
The people writing it have never told a story in their life. They're not hiring storytellers as writers like they did in the old days of Lawrence Kasdan.
reshoots
The man who wrote the show is also the writer for a number of shitty action flicks, and he was hired after the original writer was fired for whatever reason so he could have been rushed to get the script ready.
Add tunnel-vision direction and you have a hot mess of inconsistencies and poorly thought out details.
Third Sister not only arrives at B before Leia despite Leia's head start she also has time to kill the Jediground Railroad conductor, who should have been the Grand Inquisitor again just for kicks.
Entire episode felt like pic related.
Anyone got webms of their shitty fight? I'm not going out of my way to actually watch this slop.
Until this show I never understood what a Director or Producer actually meant. But Jesus Christ this show has an awful fricking director. The script probably says shit like GRUNT WAS OBFUSCATED BY TREE BRANCH SO LEIA COULD ESCAPE and the director had zero fricking idea how to block a scene. Another instance was the fricking rooftop parkour; script probably read something like; REVA TRAVERSED ROOFTOP TO LOCATE OBI-WAN and the director was like 'hmmmmm, we need back flips and wall running.'
What a fricking mess, I love the concept of the show of Obi-Wan going full Austin Powers and loosing his mojo BUT FRICKIN HELL, its been a tough watch.
>the original writer for Obi-Wan wrote the screenplay for Drive
How much did they mutilate the script?
Substantially
That sounds like the closest thing to actual kino even possible in the Star Wars franchise considering the actor and they aborted it.
>actor can actually act for once
>change the writing so he can't act properly.
Bravo Disney, bravo
>decide to make new series about fan-favourite character
>set it after he had participated in a brutal war commanding the clones of a man that tried to kill him against legions of killer robots
>the war his lover and the majority of the people he knew died in
>after surviving the literal space holocaust which was instigated by his best friend and former student, who had betrayed him to enact this holocaust and create a brutal authoritarian regime
>the best friend he had to fight and thought he killed by letting him burn in a river of lava
>the best friend whose wife died giving birth to two children, one of which this fan-favourite character chooses to protect and watch over in case he can be trained later in life, voluntarily living as a loner hermit in a harsh desert just to accomplish this task, holding onto a flicker of hope that the boy might be the key to overthrowing the empire
>but also set the story before he begins training this child, before he sees the fruits of his labour in this incredibly unfortunate, bleak situation
>a hopeful, uplifting story
The new writer is the guy who wrote Army of the Dead, so very
No wonder...they traded the possibility of good for known mediocrity
His fire extinguish was still on cooldown
Is this the same Vader that stops deep sea water pressure in Fallen Order? The fricking ocean itself and you want me to believe he can't move some fire?
>still consuming Onions Wars
You guys are the real idiots
>come to Cinemaphile expecting an interesting discussion on Vader's motives
>the posters are pointing out all the ways Vader could've killed Obi Wan then and there
>the same posters don't fricking realize this makes it absolutely clear letting Obi Wan go was Vader's intentional choice
Holy shit how the frick are all of you this stupid
What makes you say that? That's completely out of character.
That's why it's interesting, like
You're the moron that needs a line of dialogue to explain everything you see
>shill starts shift on Cinemaphile
Then why they shoot at him? Vader should've ordered them to stop shooting.
Yes
oh yeah remember all the other times Vader could've killed someone and then at the last moment showed mercy and said "lol jus kidding u go live a normal life and i won't pursue you"
Everywhere else Vader let the enemy get away so he could expose the bigger problem just like how he let the Rebels escape in ANH to find the Rebel base. Here, he has no reason to let Obi-Wan go unless he was trying to get Obi-Wan to lead him to other Jedi or even Yoda but I doubt that's the case.
ok but then why didn't the stormtroopers get him and also started shooting at the robot carrying Obi-Wan away?
modern day writers are full of idiots.
She could have killed Vader 2x
No, they have precog sense for danger and the stronger you are in the Force the more easily it can influence and control your actions, remember? Literally shown and explained in ANH.
Outright spoken of when they sensed Padme was in danger in AotC as well.
His hand would have come up and blocked the shot upon sensing danger to himself.
his stupid cape would get him cooked alive inb4 its made of quantum Black person steel from the beskar planet
I just finished watching and came here to post this. I can't believe they wrote and filmed that nonsense. Fire is gonna stop Darth Vader? There are so many ways he could have gotten him!
These two meeting is exactly what I was concerned about for this show, because how could they meet, after their initial split, and one of them not die? It is already affecting episode iv negatively if I'm supposed to believe that this show is their last meeting before then and not whatever was in my head when watching that movie for the first time. TRASH SCENE
The special effect could have stood to be larger.
Yep, why the lightsaber fight and the moronic hide-and-seek when Vader could've just grab him instantly.
So if Vader knows Obi Wan is on tatooine, what stops him from coming back for 10 years?
Sand
Well, I was force dragging his ass thru the fire and hot alien coals.. but gosh, that droid has him now. /flashback to c3-po I couldn't hurt a droid. Droids have rights too.
He starts with the harmless probe not with the armed stormtroopers, it was clearly a situation where it would've been practical to use the lightsaber but no, it's reserved for siths only.
Harmless probe?! That thing could take your eye out!
if he was black they would have lit his ass up
>bad guys aim their weapons at the protagonist, fingers on the trigger
>protagonist whips out his gun and starts shooting
>bad guys just look at what the protagonist is shooting at instead of lighting the protagonist up, and then just get shot one by one
i hate when movies and shows do this
They don't call it firewall for nothing
Here’s what happened.
>i’m going to burn my former master
>wow he is burning bad
>oh my god I’m remembering everything
>fighting the clone wars together
>padme
>omg i have no idea what to do
>i better put him out
>just bring him to me I guess guys
>lady shows up and this entire thing goes to shit
>what have I done
>i was a terrible Jedi and now i am a terrible Sith
>i can’t even kill him
>lets obi wan escape
>walks away in shame
Anakin has always had moments of failure and Vader is no different.
He was emotionally frozen.
The writers just can’t convey it well.
Fans like you understand and care about Vader far more than the people at Lucasfilm do. They may have just thought fire plus the strong womyn sniper was enough to get Vader to back off
Let's talk about How I became a jedi, please don't be bothered with the pro-empire driver who hears everything.
Yeah, well...women running this show lol
That annoyed me. He could have just told her that he'd tell her later. They could have saved the scene for while they were in the hideout israelite-attic.
Let's put up the hoodie, it surely won't max out the jedi look and will hide my identity.
That little dwarf is losing it's hair.
Upcoming leia chase sceen
that balding five-head looks nothing like leia. they should've just deepfaked leia's face from ANH onto the little actress's head or just hired a cuter-looking e-girl
They should've hired someone who is 10 years old and not a child that looks like a toddler.
Why the frick is Kenobi even in-depth conversations or getting sassed at by a toddler.
It's ludicrous.
You have failed me for the last time, cis-male!
this. i'd rather see more of a Leon / Mathilda-type relationship vs. some Curly Sue shit. this would actually make more sense and be more of a pottery moment since padme played mathilda. even add some awkward e-girl scenes in it as well a la "like a virgin"
#girlboss
Obi uses a civilian as a meatshield, but its ok because he has different political opinion
The empire's army is underfinanced so stormtroopers have to ask civilians to transport them
Where the frick did the budget go
Let's break down the episode a bit
>cgi ship lands on cgi planet
>planet looks like any generic shithole barren planet we've seen many times before so no hours wasted on designing anything new
>rolling hills with regular grass, dirt
>loading robot looks like it could be swapped around any scifi franchise, nothing memorable about it
>hover truck that looks like shit
>village with huts and dirt buildings with bit of tech pasted on same as a tatooine set
>Kenobi vs Vader in a dirt pile lot that is likely cgi'd anyway, so again no time or money wasted on designing anything
Nothing design-wise in this episode looks like any serious effort was spent on.
How about just some CHEAP alteration to make it more "starwars". A purple sky? Weird cloud shapes in the background. Giant cliffs? Giant structures looming in the distance? Red grass? Oddly shaped local architecture? Anything? Maybe even a custom stormtrooper design or at least some .... wait they did do something "new" .. Vader's little throne room.
It basically looked like something out of an Amiga demo scene routine or out of a late 90s PC CD-ROM adventure. A render made by a person who just discovered smooth marble texturing for the first time or whatever...
I'd pay top dollar to sit with Lucas and watch this for the first time with him and hear his comments.
You forgot
>fans love it, cry over it, can't get enough
>How about just some CHEAP alteration to make it more "starwars"
All the budget would have gone to CGI fauna like porgs to sell toys
so is vader still the learner here?
JEDIS HATE IT!
Click to see how the Empire stops jedi scum in 1 easy step!
I believe Vader was just toying with him when he noticed Obi Wan was weak.
well the whole "racist" abuse angle makes sense now
they should try making less shit shows
he doesn't even have real legs
You know how expensive that cape is? Palpatine would FREAK
I just wish they make new stories with new characters in the universe then already used ones.
Yall trippin
That's it that's my whole argument
>I feel a presence I haven't felt in about... oh about five or six years.
Didn't Lucas retcon enough stupid shit? Does Disney have to do it too?
Not the the prequels or sequels will ever be canon by the way.
the prequels were really pushing it with stupid shit like chewbacca meeting yoda but disney simply does not care
>Not the the prequels or sequels will ever be canon by the way.
I like you
Reiatsu homie
Why not just use saber throw and impale his ass?
dumbest show in a very long time
JUST
lmao is the fire really that small?
they literally used the final mission from GTA III as a template for that scene
This shot is from after Vader mostly put out the fire with force push so that the stormtroopers could go over and arrest Obi-Wan, but before the undercover lady reignited the flames by shooting a fuel canister.
>Also, is it indicated that Vader has a fire phobia after being burned alive?
Not really, he's the one that starts the fire so he can torture Obi-Wan with it.
Ah, so OP is a homosexual. I should have known better.
How would you get past the 3 impossible barriers of kinobe to reach the chicken nuggies? Keep in mind these barriers are powerful enough to stop professional mercenaries, one of histories strongest jedi knights, and Darth Vader respectively
So there's clearly a stormtrooper on the other side of the fire. Did he walk through it or was he over there before it ignited? Also, is it indicated that Vader has a fire phobia after being burned alive?
he has PTSD, you don't get it bro