>Anya Taylor Joy plays adult Alia in a vision with Paul and Jessica separately
>So the Emperor comes to take over Arrakis from the Baron because he failed to have Paul killed. He then had the Baron cut from his floaty life support thingy, so the Baron falls to the ground and can't walk, and is crawling up the stairs to the Emperor's throne.
>The battle is going on outside, then the Fremen break into the Emperor's throne room and the guards move the Emperor to the side to protect him, leaving the Baron unprotected. Then Paul walks in and they don't do anything to stop him killing the Baron.
>Jessica goes kinda weird in this one. She becomes cold and goes around Arrakis selling the story of Paul being the Messiah. She goes to the South without Paul. She gets these tattoos on her face and drinks the poison water to see the future. Oh and its revealed in one of Paul's visions that she's the daughter of the Baron. She acts smug to the Bene Gesserit leader later on. There's a young Bene Gesserit who takes advantage of Feyd and is pregnant with his daughter.
>Tragic ending? Not really, just Chani gets upset and storms off because Paul offers to marry the Emperor's daughter so he can rule himself (that's also supposed to be part of the Bene Gesserit's plan). The other noble families are coming to Arrakis and don't accept his rule. There's no like major character death or anything from what I remember.
AMOGUS
I just want to see big worm man.
That's at the end of Messiah
moron
Pauly Shore will be directing it by then. 2038 will not be pleasant.
Same
No
I just want to see Paul having sex with Jessica. Even if I dislike Timothee Chalametto
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPcod8IS214
Leto II's transformation begins about 2/3rds of the way through Children of Dune but he's just a 12 year old with hardened body armor and super strength/speed. He doesn't become the gross worm man until God-Emperor of Dune, the fourth book that will never, ever be adapted because if Alia is too weird for modern audiences they're definitely not adaptaing God Emperor
NOT MY DUNE!
Does it show much of the Jihad?
OY VEY THE TICKET SALES DON'T SAY THAT WORD
Lol I forgot they changed it exclusively to HECKIN HOLY WAR. Funnily I remember in the script for the first one they did actually use Jihad as well as Holy war.
One of the video clips onlinr is titled 'jihad'
There wasn't an active jihad going on IRL when the first movie released.
>There wasn't an active jihad going on IRL when the first movie released.
There quite literally was, historylet. And the US supported the jihadists:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet%E2%80%93Afghan_War
I meant Villeneuve's first movie.
(I don't remember anyone using the word jihad to describe the resistance Soviet invasion of Afghanistan but I was just a little kid when the Lynch movie released so maybe I just didn't pick it up.)
>I don't remember anyone using the word jihad to describe the resistance Soviet invasion of Afghanistan
That's because you most likely weren't among the mudschaheddin, but far away from the conflict, where it most probably was seen as a mere proxy-war and no one cared for what motivated the fighters on ground.
As for possible jihads in 2021 and right now, there are still serveral groups in the middle east that consider themselves at war with non-believers. Either in their own countries or internationally.
Why is Hollywood hesitant about depicting, or even saying the word , "jihad"
Do they think something bad will happen to them?
>Do they think something bad will happen to them?
Probably being afraid of being cancelled on social media or something.
I was thinking it might have something to do with the beheadings
Beheadings? On social media? Or in Hollywood?
In Hollywood they call it 'cancelled' rather than beheaded.
In France, they just call it beheaded.
>Why don't israelites like jihad
Gee I wonder
You're probably right. Having family in Israel, it was a word I knew, but I never saw it in the Western press at the time.
Dunc had an opportunity to make a topical reference to the American (Harkonnen) occupation of Afghanistan (arrakis). But Dennis is too great a coward to try something like that.
Hate slimy homosexuals like you
if america is the harkonnens then who are the atreidis?
Not just the "holy war." They refer to is as a "crusade," if I remember correctly, which makes no fricking sense. Unless that was only in the trailer.
>They refer to is as a "crusade," if I remember correctly, which makes no fricking sense.
Maybe ... maybe Villeneuve's Harkonnens are israelites?
It's not israelites who went on the Crusades, WTF are they teaching you zoomers in school?
>who went on the Crusades
And it's not the Harkonnens who go on a jihad, you fricking Villeneuve-adoring shitforbrains moron.
At least you've now proven once and for all that DUNCtards like yourself cannot be taken seriously.
It's not the israelites who the Crusades were launched against, either, you idiot zoomer. And we're supposed to take you seriously?
>It's not the israelites who the Crusades were launched against, either
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhineland_massacres
Collateral damage since many Crusaders were psychos that Europe wanted to send somewhere else.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sack_of_Constantinople
The Sack of Constantinople was the calumniation of the 4th Crusade but only a brainlet would claim it was launched against Orthodox Christians.
>Collateral damage
No, not collateral. Literal intended attacks on israelites, that got labeled "crusades". There were also several crusades against Christian sects.
The main point here is that these anti-israeli crusades were the ones that were the closest to what the Fremen do against the Harkonnens, on their own planet. An equivalent to the "big crusades" that were supposedly meant to "free" Palestine from muslim occupation would be something that the Fremen would leave their own planet for.
Either way, it was a joke. That some Villeneuve fanboy took personally.
But the Harkonnens were in political and military power, the israelites weren't. They were attacked because the Crusaders borrowed money from rich israelites to buy weapons, and then like the good Christians they were, murdered all the israelites so they wouldn't have to pay them back. You've triggered my Cinemaphile gland, your whole comparison doesn't work.
>the israelites weren't.
Tell that to the radical anti-semites of that time.
>your whole comparison doesn't work.
Of course it doesn't work. That's why the guy I replied to originally said that labeling anything that happens in Dune a "crusade" doesn't make sense.
Maybe you didn't notice, but I wasn't actually defending Villeneuve.
Ok, I think I understand you now.
>Christian sects
No such thing
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catharism
go learn history you dumb homosexual
Oh, the projection.
Yeah, we know already when DUNC1 came out.
Villanova is a hack.
>We lived to see David Lynch's hated 80s Dune adaptation end up being more faithful to the book than this adaptation ever was
Literally how hard is it to film a prewritten script holy fricking shit I hate adaptations so much
Lynch's adaptatin was never not faithful. It was literally just autists shitting their pants over "muh weirding modules". The same autists who did not care about Liet Kynes, the Baron or Yueh's backstory in DUNC because they see Villeneuve as one of their own.
Lynch's was not faithful; it's impossible to be faithful if you don't even remotely understand the source material, or even what's important and unimportant
Paul's relationship to the Fremen, Gurney and Duncan, the characterization of the Baron, muh sonic weapons, the fricking rain, the list goes on and on
what's worse, the writing is insanely stilted and amateurish, and almost every scene is a comedy of 'let me narrate the story and background information to the audience' instead of illustrating it through events and visuals. A lot of characters were also miscast and poorly-directed; the scene with Yueh talking about the length of sandworms to Paul is literally first-year-drama-student tier
the writing is almost the complete antithesis of what Kubrick said of Kieslowski, which is that he had the rare ability to dramatize ideas rather than just talking about them
>Lynch's was not faithful; it's impossible to be faithful if you don't even remotely understand the source material, or even what's important and unimportant
Well, have you considered that Lynch might have understood it, and you might not have?
Frank Herbert did genuinely enjoy Lynch's film afterall. Don't you think Frank Herbert should have a pretty good understanding of his own book?
>muh sonic weapons, the fricking rain
Well, kinda seems like some massive double standards when you then turn around and say that Villeneuve not including Alia is a good choice because she's "too weird", doesn't it?
Let's just be clear here: You don't know as much about Dune as you think you do. And you know even less about filmmaking.
>Well, have you considered that Lynch might have understood it, and you might not have?
lmao
>Well, kinda seems like some massive double standards when you then turn around and say that Villeneuve not including Alia is a good choice
never said anything of the sort, moron
I know more about Dune than very nearly anyone else alive
I also produced the ebook of The Maker of Dune
You are a gnome trying to flex at a giant
>I know more about Dune than very nearly anyone else alive
Yeah, so much for you not being a massive shitposter.
At least I hope you are, because if you're serious about anything you just wrote, you're Brain-Herbert-levels of delusional.
find me someone else who can enumerate the references Dune makes to general semantics, Ayn Rand, W.B. Yeats, Ferdowsi, A.N. Whitehead, Dorothy Sayers, Jean Larteguy, Wilfred Thesiger, and over a hundred others
don't worry I'll wait
Kek. At least you're putting some effort in your bait. I appreciate that to the average witless DUNCtard bait we get here all the time.
I accept your concession
Lynch's movie was just cut down for time which removed a lot of good scenes and shortened others. Seeing the whole picture the way it was intended (or at least closer to the original intention) with the Spicediver edit, we see the Lynch film is a great adaptation that was faithful to the original work. Villeneuve had twice as much allotted time to work with and somehow cut even more than Lynch did.
>Villeneuve had twice as much allotted time to work with and somehow cut even more than Lynch did.
Yeah, but Villeneuve also included half an hour of panorama shots of a badly colour-graded desert with Zendaya's ugly mug in it. That of course is much more important than giving context or meaning to what's going on in the story.
All this. But then again Lynch understands storytelling and the filmmaking process wheras Denis does not.
Understanding storytelling and filmmaking are needed to make a good film, i.e. to make your adaptation work in the medium of film.
So Villeneuve being shit at those at best excuses him for DUNC looking like shit and having terrible pacing and narrative flow.
But you don't need to be a good director or writer to realize that completely rewriting your source material and removing characters for no good reason isn't usually a good idea.
Buy an ad, homosexual.
Still not watching Zenyatta negress
She's his sister, not his daughter.
True sorry
>She's his sister, not his daughter.
In the book maybe. But if you've seen the sexual tension between Timmy and Rebecca Ferguson in DUNC, you must at least consider the possibility that ...
Channi has a baby in the first book btw
does anyone besides nerds like this movie? i've never heard it discussed outside this website
It's insanely boring!!! people pretend to like it for some reasons
It’s boring if you’re used to gooning for 12 hours a day and can’t focus for more than 30 seconds.
>no my fan fiction isn't in this movie reee
okay?
>my fan fiction
You do realize that Alia is in the original Dune book, right?
If anything is "fan fiction", it's Villeneuve's bullshit.
Alia was in the original dune trilogy, but what OP has written is complete fanfiction, do you need me to pull out the first edition soft backs sitting on my shelf beside me and read you word for word what they say.
It's not a question, i'll fricking school you kid.
>what OP has written is complete fanfiction
What OP has written is literally spoilers for Villeneuve's DUNC 2. It's what WILL be in the film, not what OP wants to be in the film.
I don't care, DUNC is just marvel shit and not worth talking about in the first place.
So talk about Dune or frick off.
>What OP has written is literally spoilers for Villeneuve's DUNC 2.
Sure they are, kid.
It's what people leaked about the test screenings. And they were correct about Anya Taylor Joy being cast as Alia, when that hadn't been announced yet. I don't see why they'd be correct about that one specific thing, but not about the others.
>mix a pinch of truth with your mound of bullshit
>presto it's true
OK zoomer.
Let's wait and see then. Two more days until reviews release, a bit more than a week and you can see the whole thing in cinemas.
I'm looking forward to your mental gymnastics then, Villeneuvetard.
> Paying $25 a ticket, plus parking and tips, to watch half a movie.
Nope.
You might as well just download the camrip.
But Villeneuvetards will tell you that you cannot rely on the camrip, and that if you watch it in IMAX, it actually DOES have Alia.
Just like back when whe had the DUNC1 camrip and they insisted that "no, it's just the camrip that looks like shit, not the actual mooooovie".
why is the product of millennia long eugenics with the intent to produce the literal ubermensch a homosexual twink israelite? For the love of Hitler please someone use AI to whitewash this shitshow, I can’t believe this fricking groid zendaya is actually a human. And why did the Arabs/Iranians all turn into Black folk wtf was this casting
>no mention of the knife fight with Feyd
I'm going to go with FAKE AND GAY for $500 on this one, Alex.
>people getting mad an adaptation doesn't follow the book
The book is all about prophecies and autistically precise talking contests, no film audience could ever understand it if it was represented correctly
Imagine how shit God Emperor of Dune would be in the style of either of the adaptations. Wow so he just walked into an obvious trap what a shit ending!
>no film audience could ever understand it if it was represented correctly
Funny. The film audience in 1984 had no problem understanding it. Maybe because the film wasn't dogshit like DUNC is?
And of course, while not a feature film, the Syfy adapatation also didn't have any problem getting the point across.
It's only Villeneuve's fans that need special treatement, apparently.
Lynch Dune does not have the power words stuff to paralyse people or the subtle domination in conversation. Lynch Dune fricks up the prophecies as well
I haven't seen the Syfy adaptation but I imagine they don't get across the nobles' battles with language, which is an important part of all of the books
>Lynch Dune fricks up the prophecies as well
It doesn't. But keep pretending if it makes you cope with Villeneuve completely rewriting the story.
If even half of the spoilers are true, he's done worse to Frank Herbert's work and its public perception than Brian Herbert ever could. And that's quite an accomplishment.
Both adaptations are shit mate
You don't have to like Lynch's Dune, or the Syfy adaptation. But to pretend that they're anywhere remotely as disrespectful and incompetently made as DUNC is outright slander.
It turns Paul into a standard hero and there’s a ‘happy’ ending that brings rain to Arrakis, even though that will literally wreck the planet and kill its wildlife
You simply cannot have Toto provide the soundtrack and NOT bless the rains down in Arrakis, anon.
But, yeah, this was indeed the biggest change in Lynch's film. And it effects ... literally nothing. What it does is make a statement about economic exploitation that had been going on on Dune, and that is already one of the thematic foci of the book. Lynch know what he's doing.
Now, your turn: Why is deleting Alia such a great idea from Vlleneuve?
> And it effects ... literally nothing
Aside from the absolute havoc it will wreak on the ecosystem of the planet. It’s not a good thing.
As for removing Alia, I’m not in favour of it, even if it would be hard to do her justice. Though as they literally had the actress playing fully grown Alia at the premiere and have been talking about doing Messiah, I’ll remain sceptical until I see it.
>Aside from the absolute havoc it will wreak on the ecosystem of the planet. It’s not a good thing.
Stop with the plothomosexualry and try to think about it on a metatextual level.
>even if it would be hard to do her justice.
Would it? How did Lynch and even the miniseries not do her justice?
Anything requiring important drama from very young actors is at the mercy of their skill and what the filmmakers can get from them. Sometimes you get Kirsten Dunst in Interview with the Vampire, sometimes you suffer through almost every child performance in the early Harry Potters. And with respect to the young actress, the scenes with her in Lynch’s film are… well, not entirely successful. Hoping Villeneuve hasn’t removed her though, as she’s important.
>Anything requiring important drama from very young actors is at the mercy of their skill and what the filmmakers can get from them.
That's why you need to hire a good director and casting director. Alicia Witt in Lynch's Dune wasn't a lucky accident, it was just good casting. Same for Dunst in Interview with the Vampire.
>And with respect to the young actress, the scenes with her in Lynch’s film are… well, not entirely successful.
I disagree. I think most people would disagree.
> The film audience in 1984 had no problem understanding it. Maybe because the film wasn't dogshit like DUNC is?
Well that’s just a fricking lie. Lynch’s film has a cult following now, but it’s infamous for being a badly received mess
>badly received
Doesn't mean that people didn't understand the plot. The political plot in the first half was particularly clearly laid out in Lynch's film.
It was the editing in the second half and the pacing issues that came with it that were the issue for most reviewers and the audience.
Were you alive when it came out? Be honest. Because some of us actually remember
>Were you alive when it came out?
Yes, but barely. Not nearly old enough to see it.
But I can read. I have read reviews. Not sure what you think you remember that is now otherwise lost to history.
It’s not lost to history, at all, certain people are just in denial about Lynch’s film being notorious for being an utter mess that relied on constant inner monologue voiceovers to explain things from the book and still didn’t do it properly. Hell, it starts with an info dump from Irulan that has a second info dump stitched on. That film has some great qualities, but it is narratively sloppy and still didn’t convey things well to non fans
>certain people are just in denial about Lynch’s film being notorious for being an utter mess
The reason it is "an utter mess" is the editing in the second half. Again: Pretty much everybody is in agreement about that.
>it starts with an info dump from Irulan that has a second info dump stitched on.
That's not a quality judgement, anon. You might not like it, personally, but it just is what it is. And the book does the same thing, except repeatedly, before every chapter.
Lynch's irulan was pretty, so it was OK.
Imagine if it was Florence Pugh's puffy mug filling a cinema screen as she lectures you on space history. Yuck! No thank you!
Personal opinion, but I’ve met Pugh and thought she was gorgeous, so I wouldn’t object
BTW -- they had another premier for Dunc 2. This time in Abu Dabi of all places. The marking cost for this is insane.
The marketing for Part 1 was already strangely aggressive. Shipping their actors all around the world. At the tail end of a pandemic no less.
That what made it so hard to gauge the break-even point for its box office.
First DUNC basically made HBO Max, it was quite an important project for the studio in this way.
>basically made HBO Max
It really didn't. HBO Max is as irrelevant as ever.
That whole idea that people would subscribe to a streaming service for one single thing is hillariously stupid. It's why the whole business model doesn't make a profit. Not even for Netflix, which is dominating the market.
And the big guy finally showed up for one of these.
>the big guy
The one next to midget Dennis Vileneuf? Who is that even?
> They forget you were even in the first movie.
Oh, wait, is that Aquaman? He's barely recognizable.
No wonder you don't recognize him. They bleached him for his role. kek
"More sand?! How much is this costing us?"
"Oh, you don't want to know..."
It's funny how those premiers have actual colour. Almost as if they they weren't for DUNC.
You can get a truckoad of sand delivered for a couple grand. A truckload is ~25 yards depending on size of truck bed, which looks to be how much sand is spread here
10ft wide x 100ft long x 2in deep
Third world slop.
I want to see Austin Butler buttfrick Timothee Chalamet.
Sounds kinda gay
What do I even root for
On one hand I liked DUNC and DUNC 2 electnig jigaboo is the only flick that is releasing I want to see
On the other hand they are butchering the story so much that if it does well they will just frick up the entire dune lore and remake the trilogy and frick them all up.
>On one hand I liked DUNC
That's the problem right there. Everything about DUNC already signalled what Villeneuve was going to do. From dropping the ball on Yueh's subplot to the complete butchering of Liet Kynes, the one character which could have introduced anything of relevance about Fremen culture and part 2 in general.
But, no, people like you just chose to close your eyes and ears and pretend that everything was alright. And that's not even taking into account how terrible DUNC was as an audio-visual experience.
>terrible DUNC was as an audio-visual experience.
Acrually on both an audio and visual experience lvele DUNC was kino, its just if you care about DUNC lore, it fricks shit up quite a bit that ruins the future, specifically fricking kynes entire arch up.
Kynes is not that important to the overall lore but alia is.
>on both an audio and visual experience lvele DUNC was kino
Only complete morons use "kino" as an assessment of (perceived) quality. No wonder you don't have any idea what actual good cinematography is like, and why "muh desaturated blurry dusty totals of deserts with cement blocks" isn't it.
>Kynes is not that important to the overall lore
Kynes is literally Chani's father, and the point where Fremen culture and the "outside" first touch. It is a taste of what's to come with Paul joining them. But of course, if you only care about plothomosexualry rather than effective meaningful storytelling, you wouldn't understand.
>this fricking pleb
Not an argument, Villeneuve bootlicker.
>Alia NOT in Dunc 2
Dropped. Unwatchable.
Is Ayyyyy in this movie or not?
Might go so it for my waifu
According to spoilers, there's one single flashforward/vision scene that has her play a character that has largely been neutered and robbed of any importance to the plot. Most likely as sequel bait for a sequel that might never get made.
Probably not worth paying for just because you like one actress.
Was thinking about seeing it anyway since I've already seen the first part and I kinda liked the movie from the 80s
Will see for Ayyyy tho
So chani doesn't become paul royal concubine?
Have they finally explained who the mentats are or do they keep ignoring that?
Not out yet, but looking at DUNC's track record of explaining things, I'd assume the latter.
I doubt they're gonna spend 5 minute of the movie explaining why AI is basically banned in the DUNC universe
Even though it would be the perfect movie to do it with all these homosexual voice actions and writers crying about AI replacing their jobs soon
>writers crying about AI replacing their jobs soon
I wish some AI would replace Danny Villenauve already. Can't possibly produce a worse result.
I wonder what kind of books will be written about DUNC someday.
Or will it just be a footnote whenever Villeneuve gets mentioned alongside other failed grifters like Elon Musk, Donald Trump and Elizabeth Holmes?
SOUL
Why did they change it?
Short answer: Because Villeneuve is a hack.
Long answer: Because Villeneuve is a massive hack, who thinks Alia is a silly idea (and you cannot have silly in a serious mature movie for serious mature adults about paranormally gifted space witches, no way), and who thinks that what Dune needs most of all is "muh strong female diverse protagonist", and who thinks actors need to be popular with the gen Z audience rather than good at their job.
I know all that because I've played behind the dune
>tfw a porn game is a more faithful adaptation than DUNC
>no dunc with paul x jessica
4 words
naked
Alia
training
sequence
Man I cummed so much to Paul's Women. Why did the guy abandon it?
Not going to happen for two reasons:
There won't be a DUNC3/Messiah.
And there won't ever be any knid of nudity in Villeneuve's mainstream PG13 slop.
Does that mean no spice orgy scenes?
What do you think?
the spice orgy was an orgy of the spirit and mind
but hollywood hacks will probably turn it into a brown sweaty rave like in the matrix sequels
OP here. Someone asked some more questions earlier and I’m here to answer.
The baby sand worm makes the poison drink that gives Paul and his mom their visions of the future. Once Paul can see things clearly he can see people's past. He does this during a prayer then the Fremen worship him. Chani doesn't believe in him. The Emperor finds out Paul is alive and takes Arrakis over from the Harkonens. The Fremen attack and take the Emperor prisoner. Batista gets killed by Brolin; Paul kills the Baron. Paul challenges the Emperor for the Empire and fights Feyd as his champion. Paul gets stabbed twice but pulls the first knife out and stabs Feyd with it. He then makes the Emperor kiss his ring and offers to marry his daughter.
They ruined it.
What a bunch of shit. I believe tho, Villanova is this kind of hack. If the stabbing thing is true they truly ruined the whole thing, specially because that knife had poison.
And if I getting this right they are going to do Messiah/Children, that's why they cast ayy lmao as Alia
Describe the interior of the fremen sietches.
Do they include the sardaukar assasins?
Do they include Harrah?
How do they set them up the bomb for the shield wall?
Does the film include the terraforming / spice cycle subplot? Does Paul use it as a deadman switch to leverage the Spacing Guild?
How frequently does zendaya scowl?
Do Paul and Chani have a son?
Is thuffir alive and in Harkonnen captivity?
>Do they include Harrah?
Confirmed not in the movie
>Do Paul and Chani have a son?
Confirmed not in the movie
>Is thuffir alive and in Harkonnen captivity?
Probably not in the movie
Does the film include the terraforming / spice cycle subplot? Does Paul use it as a deadman switch to leverage the Spacing Guild?
For goodness sake, how many times do I need to ask this?
OP might be absent again. And other than him, nobody in here has seen it. We don't even know whether he has, or whether he himself is just giving a second hand account.
Some french guy who was the premiere said Paul kills the baron, so he's probably right
I'm not disputing that he's right about what he says, I'm just saying that he might not have the full picture either.
Are we trusting the French, now?
Given the choice between some original French guy, and a French Canadian, I'm sticking with the original.
>Is thuffir alive and in Harkonnen captivity?
The man had what, 5 minutes of screen time? I doubt anyone will remember he exists. Frick, they never explained what is a mentat or that PAUL IS A FRICKING MENTAT AND THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO THE FRICKING PLOT AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGHH
OP returned from the spice haze
They pretty much leave all of this out. Zendaya scowls a lot.
Alia comes to them in both separate visions. It’s their method of communicating with her.
I’m just telling you dawg. He can see people’s past.
Chani’s motives seem kind of moronic. It flip flops. She loves him but doesn’t believe he’s the Muad’dib
Rabban is killed by Gurney
Paul does not die. They give him sort of a hero’s ending standing over the Fremen and riling them up.
>Chani’s motives seem kind of moronic. It flip flops. She loves him but doesn’t believe he’s the Muad’dib
And this is the worst change. She loves him because he IS muad'dib and Usul. Her being a skeptical c**t towards him just ruins her purpose
Does the film include the terraforming / spice cycle subplot? Does Paul use it as a deadman switch to leverage the Spacing Guild?
>How do they set them up the bomb for the shield wall?
The family atomics... blew up the shield wall??
>The baby sand worm makes the poison drink that gives Paul and his mom their visions of the future.
Is this the same vision as the ATJ Alia one? I thought that happened later?
>Once Paul can see things clearly he can see people's past. He does this during a prayer then the Fremen worship him.
What?
>Chani doesn't believe in him.
I've read this spoiler before. But what I don't get is why the hell she still falls in love with him if she doesn't believe (in) him and doesn't trust him either. Or doesn't she actually fall in love with him? I thought the ending with her getting jealous of Irulan (kek) implied otherwise.
>Batista gets killed by Brolin
Who by whom? Not that it matters.
>Paul kills the Baron
I guess I'm pleasantly surprised that Zendaya didn't get the kill? Mildly ...
>Paul gets stabbed twice but pulls the first knife out and stabs Feyd with it.
Kek. They more or less took this from Hamlet. Maybe the poisoned knife inspired them to. So I guess both Feyd and Paul die from the poison here then, like both Laertes and Hamlet did?
>Who by whom? Not that it matters.
Brolin (also know as Gurney Halleck and BoyLover69) kills Batista (Rabban the Beast). Probably a call back for the Harkonnen attack that killed his men in the first part.
>Once Paul can see things clearly he can see people's past.
Wait, what? But he can see the future not... WHAT?
>Brolin (also know as Gurney Halleck and BoyLover69) kills Batista (Rabban the Beast)
Oh, actors. I get it. Still don't care, about either the actors or the characters all that much. If that was the extent of the rewrites, I'd be fine with it.
>But he can see the future not... WHAT?
Thinking about it, maybe Villeneuve is one of those people who think that time is cyclical. And Paul sees so far into the future that he loops back around and approaches the present from the past? Nah, that'd be too stupid even for Villeneuve. Or wouldn't it?
>cant show romantic emotion.
>Villeneuve has to keep the romance
Okay, I get that, but how is that supposed to work?
>Okay, I get that, but how is that supposed to work?
>Paul: i love you chani
>zendaya: no
>Paul:i really love you chani
>zendaye: *rolls eyes* i guess
That's always been part of what the Kwisatz Haderach can do. Look into the genetic past, but not just women like the Bene Gesserit can, but male ancestors too.
>what I don't get is why the hell she still falls in love with him if she doesn't believe (in) him and doesn't trust him either
Because she is a strong woman and cant show romantic emotion. 95% of chani in the trailers in scowling at paul, her boyfriend. Villeneuve has to keep the romance if he wants to do Messiah but he was to make Chani a huge fricking c**t
What a strange change from the book. I can see how they got themselves in this pickle, though.
>forced by producers to cast Zendaya
>zendaya can only play a scowling c**t
>scowling c**ts check the empowered girlboss box, so it's ok
But oh shit, she's got to be a mother to Paul's kids! Which puts them in a bind..
>Because she is a strong woman and cant show romantic emotion.
The worst thing is that you are right, that's how those israelites think. Chani was a very strong woman in the books, Zendaya has zero range and Villanova is a hack, they simply cannot translate her feminine power into the screen.
If yuh were a real dune fan, why would you watch this? It's too late. It's over. I'll probably just rewatch the lynch one again and reread the first book and be done with it.
DUNC was such a trash heap. I shan't be watching this.
That's pure nonsense. Jessica is pregnant in dune 1. Unless dune two takes place in less than 9 months I don't think so
>Unless dune two takes place in less than 9 months
Dune doesn't, of course.
But DUNC does.
Black person there IS no 2 year timeskip in Dune Part II it's been confirmed already