None of this garbage is Star Wars. Tonally, thematically, creatively bankrupt trash. None of it fits with Lucas' films and vision. None of it fits in his world. It's content for the sake of content, it's a soulless corporate product wearing the vaguest "Star Wars" aesthetic like a mask.
ftfy
there's shit and then there's Boba Fett and Kenobi, the worst TV shows I've ever seen in my life, and all thanks to terrible writing and directing
You mean the part where a sheboon chases child Luke Skywalker around the desert trying to kill him? Then Obi-Wan shows up and makes her apologize instead of outright killing her for the evil shit she's done and to keep the secret of who Luke is? Followed by a member berries scene with Qui Gon's ghost showing up for no reason? Those 10 minutes?
Andor is beloved by midwits who are confused by all the talking into thinking it's great. Only the firsr season of Mando was OK. All the others are trash.
No one ever said that. When you have to literally make shit up to have something to argue against you know you've lost, or a least a high IQ rational person would. You will never be a real woman, all nonWhites will be purged, all israelites will burn in hell, etc.
this, Disney sloppers on this board fooled me again >bro watch Andro, ignore that the entiriety of the board says it's garbage and spams our threads
it sucked, irremediable trash >bro watch the Mandalorian but only s1, s2 sucks
turns out s2 is the peak of it
It's good despite the Bad Batch themselves. The quality of the show dramatically improves when the main group isn't present and its just focusing on Clones in the early Empire.
Still wish we'd have gotten a similar premise following an actual Commando squad or something and not these "wacky and different" clones
It has approximately 5 good episodes. All of those episodes feature Crosshair alone working for the Empire. This is not even debatable, everything else about the show is painfully boring and bad. Omeeeega fricking sucks.
nah, it's all dogshit
rogue one was ass, no idea how people defend it.
mando's first episode was maybe good, after that it just turned into the baby yoda show with meandering bullshit.
average >The Last Jedi
There are major aspects of it that are well-above average, but the movie as a whole is a chore. It's the only movie in the ST I've ever felt compelled to watch more than once, but I still had to skip large chunks of it to tolerate it.
The real problem is the whole starship chase with the whole plot about them going on a planet for absolutely fricking nothing. It's like 50% of the movie is useless.
This
When I rewatched it a year or two back I came to the conclusion that it's half good (the Luke/Rey/Kylo plot) and half really fricking bad (the Poe subplot, the Finn/Rose subplot, what they got wrong with Luke), and that the bad parts are awful enough to make the whole film utterly rubbish
Anybody who puts Andor on a pedestal is a cancerous moron who hates Star Wars. It's the Daniel Craig James Bond of Star Wars, i.e. the ultimate Anti-Star Wars, made for fartsniffing midwits who think they're above goyslop while gleefully consuming the pozzed chink leftovers.
Andor is to Star Wars what Game of Thrones is to fantasy. It's embarrassing how many manchildren were fooled into thinking they had adult tastes by watching this infantile left-wing corporate agitprop.
Facts. Frick that dogshit. It's like a CBS crime procedural (NCIS, CSI, etc) larping as Star Wars on top of throwing in some pretentious twaddle monologues to really rile up the leftist redditors that still mindlessly support this creatively bankrupt muck masquerading as Star Wars. Absolute trash.
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Facts. Frick that dogshit. It's like a CBS crime procedural (NCIS, CSI, etc) larping as Star Wars on top of throwing in some pretentious twaddle monologues to really rile up the leftist redditors that still mindlessly support this creatively bankrupt muck masquerading as Star Wars. Absolute trash.
>meaningless buzzwords
it's ok to admit you got filtered anons
Andor is beloved by midwits who are confused by all the talking into thinking it's great. Only the firsr season of Mando was OK. All the others are trash.
Andor is to Star Wars what Game of Thrones is to fantasy. It's embarrassing how many manchildren were fooled into thinking they had adult tastes by watching this infantile left-wing corporate agitprop.
Blandordiots are the most insufferable homosexuals on this board and that includes Ahsoka viewers
it's funny how trandorgays think that the OT and trandor have any semblance whatsoever
I urge you to watch the OT and trandor back to back and tell me with a straight face that they are similar in any way whatsoever
the OT was a family adventure film, a monomyth distilled into a space opera form, a story of coming of age and spiritualism
trandor is a bland, ugly, joyless, dull generic sci-fi drama set in space london
Andor is to Star Wars what Game of Thrones is to fantasy. It's embarrassing how many manchildren were fooled into thinking they had adult tastes by watching this infantile left-wing corporate agitprop.
Le Sterile slop with people talking while making serious faces, lacking any semblance of SW soul that Lucas Saga had.
Andor is the definition of mediocrity that looks good in comparison to utter shittyness of the rest NuWars slop.
it's funny how trandorgays think that the OT and trandor have any semblance whatsoever
I urge you to watch the OT and trandor back to back and tell me with a straight face that they are similar in any way whatsoever
the OT was a family adventure film, a monomyth distilled into a space opera form, a story of coming of age and spiritualism
trandor is a bland, ugly, joyless, dull generic sci-fi drama set in space london
Exactly right. Everything you said is the truth. Andor is disgusting in its vain, shallow attempts at making Star Wars """edgy""" and """adult""" with swearing, sex, callous violence, and communist rhetoric.
Exactly right. Everything you said is the truth. Andor is disgusting in its vain, shallow attempts at making Star Wars """edgy""" and """adult""" with swearing, sex, callous violence, and communist rhetoric.
>when your talking points are so bad you have to samegay
it's funny how trandorgays think that the OT and trandor have any semblance whatsoever
I urge you to watch the OT and trandor back to back and tell me with a straight face that they are similar in any way whatsoever
the OT was a family adventure film, a monomyth distilled into a space opera form, a story of coming of age and spiritualism
trandor is a bland, ugly, joyless, dull generic sci-fi drama set in space london
Bounty Hunter is the most based piece of Star Wars content outside of the 6 Lucas movies. Nothing else is as good, nothing. You are full of cringe and AIDS if you disagree.
as bad as shows like Solo and Ahsoka and Kenobi are, they at least had the Star Wars spirit
Andor, like Rogue One, has all of the OT purist aesthetics, and none of the SOVL
Why are you incapable of nuance you ugly 45 IQ baboon gorilla Black person
I literally just said the shows are awful, but they accurately reproduced the feel of Star Wars by actually being light-hearted space operas for kids
Andor and Rogue One are Jack Bauer In Space, totally denuded of everything that makes Star Wars Star Wars except the flayed skin draped over it like Buffalo Bill
Wholesome pulp adventure enjoyable by the whole family with elements of the medieval chanson de geste.
Solo, as bad and unnecessary a film it is, at least falls within the idiom set by the franchise. The heroes journey in it is patently obvious, arguably too obvious, to the point of standardization, but it's there. It has the same emotional language, it just speaks like a moron. Much of Filoniwars follows this pattern, to greater or lesser degree, to greater or lesser quality.
Rogue One on the other hand, speaks an entirely different language. it is a cynical, moribund nostalgia-trip that exists for one reason and one reason alone: having toy army mans fight each other for the satisfaction of depressed, joyless, burnt-out gen-x manchildren trying to recapture the glory days of a life wasted.
>Though, I’d say having an occasional “joyless” Andor or Rogue One is ok as side pieces so long as the core remains wide-eyed pulpy fantasy
I'd accept that, if not for the legions of star wars-hating RLMgays who simp for Andor and Rogue One as OMG BEST STAR WARS EVER DECANONIZE EVERYTHING ELSE EXCEPT EMPIRE STRIKES BACK
this fandom is positively revolting, and it deserves every bit of suffering it receives
It's good despite the Bad Batch themselves. The quality of the show dramatically improves when the main group isn't present and its just focusing on Clones in the early Empire.
Still wish we'd have gotten a similar premise following an actual Commando squad or something and not these "wacky and different" clones
>It's good despite the Bad Batch themselves. The quality of the show dramatically improves when the main group isn't present and its just focusing on Clones in the early Empire.
ironically, that's one of my main gripes with Rogue One and Andor
Rogue One is enjoyable when you're following along the non-Ackbar guy and the moustachiod X-wing pilot, and Tarkin and butthurt Krennic
Andor is enjoyable when you're watching Stellan Skarsgard go "part of the crew, part of the ship" and Mon Mothma being the Leia equivalent
but when you're watching the band of unlikable misfits like Gin Ouzo, Castilian Andorra, Blazeit Malbong and Cheroot Imhigh, Quipbot 3000 and Durka Durka Muhammad Jihad walking around sullenly and being all angsty, who the frick wants to see that? that's not Star Wars, that's Dawson's Creek with ugly people
in my completely honest opinion, I find the prequels to be ever so slightly less enjoyable than the original trilogy, but I wouldn't dare to rate any of them less than a 10
I rate Filoniwars/Mandoverse all somewhat less than the 6 Star Wars films
and I don't consider there to exist more than 6 Star Wars films, unless you're counting Ewoks: Caravan of Courage and Ewoks II: The Battle For Endor
None of that shit has the Star Wars "spirit". Ironically enough, Rogue One is the only thing you mentioned that does. And George Lucas agrees, he actually applauded that movie and told Gareth Edwards that it's a movie he wishes he had thought to make. It's the only thing Disney has made that gets George's stamp of approval and could be considered canon with his films.
I don't know how I can go back to star wars now, broskis. Andor is just... so good. The rest of star wars banal poorly written kiddie shit pales in comparison.
Rouge One and Andor are literally the best Star Wars. Finally, Star Wars for adults that is not embarrassing to watch. Everything else is fricking embarrassing. Honestly, go watch A New Hope, or even Empire Strikes Back - dogshit dialogue, hockey acting, shit action, goofy ass cringe shit all around, quips. Nothing on the level of Stellan Skarsgard or Andy Serkis. Nothing like impeccable Gilroy's tone and atmosphere. Star Wars is a dead fossil, and it needs to be rebooted. And Tony Gilroy is the right man. Everything else is fricking dogshit and terrible. You know I am right.
Let Gilroy remake the original trilogy and go from there.
Decanonize everything else except Andor and Rogue One.
Seriously, who wants this dumb shit?
Stupid ass MCU quipping teenagers taking down the Empire? A farmer boy? Fricking moronic kiddie garbage nonsense.
KK can redeem herself if she fires everyone except Gilroy and his team and reboots Star Wars to proper standards (such as Rogue One and Andor).
Hereby, I declare official Star Wars canon for mature sophisticated adults with taste:
Andor
Rogue One
>God this homosexual is so insufferable
i wanted to see what he was saying so I tried watching his stream. THIS moron literally sits there in silence for like two hours as he watches and says nothing lol and people stream it
He has never understood Star Wars. I truly do not know how he got such a following on YouTube. He's dumb as frick and has utterly garbage opinions while simping for Disney like a beaten dog hoping they throw him freebies and special treatment. The time he threw a tantrum because Disney wouldn't let him copyright and monetize his Darth Vader fanfilm was unreal. He thinks he owns Star Wars simply because morons watch his channel. That childish entitlement is unbelievable.
This guy is so weird to me. He looks like a normie guy that's really into golf or hockey or something, and he has that same sort of shallow enthusiasm but points it towards a media product. Truly a failed normie
Mando season 1 > Andor >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mando season 2 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> three first episodes of Mando season 3 (didn't watch the rest) > haven't watched the other shows
Absolute dog shit.. I can't believe there people right now still talking with Disney employees instead of spitting in their faces before punching their faces. Fricking utter garbage
>Instead of leaving immediately, I will send wave after wave of my own men to their deaths pointlessly, hoping that their dead bodies will form some sort of obstruction to prevent the Jedi from reaching me.
The final episode pissed me off so much. Every single thing Thrawn did was fricking moronic. The writers clearly want him to seem like a hyper-competent villain but he's just a blue bozo.
I wouldn't know, never watched Rebels or read any of the books about him. But it's pretty clear the writers just can't do smart characters. Why didn't he just sent out another couple of TIE fighters to confirm Ahsoka's ship was definitely down/finish it off. Why insist on docking the star destroyer with the hyperspace ring on the planet, the one place where it can be boarded? Why not do it in space? Better yet, just use the star destroyer to bombard Ahsoka's ship from space. Job done, mission complete, jedi's btfo.
feloni should only be allowed to make cartoons, since thats all he knows how to do
Seems like it. You know that all of the main characters are always going to be fine so the action scenes are just a waste with no stakes whatsoever. They never lose, they never get hurt, or if they do get hurt they're totally fine in the next episode. Very cartoonish in that regard.
Its slightly hinted at that Thrawn is dealing with dwindling resources during his reintroduction so he doesn't want to overcommit to dealing with Ahsoka when his mind is more on dealing with the situation back in the home galaxy. This could have been outright addressed with an extra line of dialogue or two, however.
But beyond that, the Imps just can't win and the heroes can't lose. The fact that they road horse-wolves through a full turbolaser bombardment and didn't have a scratch on them is testament to the complete lack of stakes in these shows.
>Its slightly hinted at that Thrawn is dealing with dwindling resources
He have 2 battleships with 72+ spacefighters. He orders them to retreat when they pinned down Ahsoka ship and doesn't even bothers to destroy completely immobilized ship.
Not to mention his resources aren't supposed to be low since he did literally nothing for 10 years, just flew above the planet.
Considering how busted up his stormtroopers are and that some of them are undead, I'd say he's been fighting the locals quite a bit. Who knows how many TIEs he actually has left, and he wasn't gonna commit the Eye of Scion to combat because that was his only ticket out of there. He needed the Chimaera to deal with shit back in the home galaxy so wasn't gonna overcommit that, too.
The problem is that they want him to seem smart & refined in his strategy. He could've done everything you suggested if he was a cartoonish villain (which fits this show much better), but they hamstring him with this finesse that the writer's can't really manage properly.
In the end you just get a shitty villain.
7 months ago
Anonymous
>busted up his stormtroopers
They aren't. It's the same moronic storm troopers with piss poor accuracy, weak guns and paper armor >undead
Even dumber stormtroopers.
7 months ago
Anonymous
I mean that their armor has been repaired dozens of times and is in poor condition. Its not like they ran out of armor polish, they've clearly seen combat in the time they've been exiled.
7 months ago
Anonymous
>they've clearly seen combat in the time they've been exiled.
Which means they were brutalised by crab people and "totally not orcs on wolves from LOTR/Warcraft".
7 months ago
Anonymous
I'm not saying they're good stormtroopers, I'm just saying that Thawn's Star Destroyer is likely not at full fighting complement for men, TIEs, etc., which is why he doesn't commit everything to killing Ahsoka.
He has the New Republic to deal with when he gets back and who knows how many Imperial warlords he'll have to feud with before he reunites the Remnant.
7 months ago
Anonymous
Sorry I meant to respond to
>Its slightly hinted at that Thrawn is dealing with dwindling resources
He have 2 battleships with 72+ spacefighters. He orders them to retreat when they pinned down Ahsoka ship and doesn't even bothers to destroy completely immobilized ship.
Not to mention his resources aren't supposed to be low since he did literally nothing for 10 years, just flew above the planet.
Filoni really did turn Thrawn into some Cobra Commander, Scooby-Doo shit
I rewatched Gargoyles recently and David Xanatos is a much better mastermind villain than Elon Smurf. Its super easy to write "no matter what happens I win" outcomes for a villain and the fact that Disney can't even manage that is an incredible condemnation.
Thrawn was like that in the old books. He was an intelligent, well done villain. He won, and not just because the heroes had to be written dumber to do it or this cartoonish nonsense in the show. All Filoni had to do was have Thrawn just take his ship and leave as soon as Ahsoka got there. It would have made him look infinitely more competent than spending 3 episodes on him saying "NOOOOO WE NEED MORE TIME TO LOAD THESE 30 BOXES ON MY SHIP SEND ALL MY TROOPS AND FIGHTERS TO DIE AAAAAAA"
Thrawn as a "smart villain character" cannot exist in the rest of Ahsoka. Its not an issue of rewriting the script or changing dialogue. What's been set up by the rest of the show just makes that character archetype impossible, you'd have to scrap the whole thing.
No. Obviously you didn't. Begone DisBlack person shill.
7 months ago
Anonymous
You are a fake fan who gets 100% of his star wars knowledge from wookieepedia.
7 months ago
Anonymous
Embarassing post from a moronic troglodyte Disney marketer. I read all books, you have no clue what you're talking about you dumb homosexual. But keep parroting nonsense from a shill script lmao
7 months ago
Anonymous
How many times did Thrawn have the heroes within his grasp in the og trilogy from 1991-1993 ON HIS OWN SHIP and let them go as all part of his master keikaku? Once? Twice? Three times? Certainly not four times? FIVE TIMES does Thrawn capture Mara Jade (three times for her alone), Luke Skywalker, and Talon Karrde, take them aboard his Star Destroyer Chimaera, and then get dunked on when they escape. This is excluding his boondoggles with other characters, these are goody-two-shoes thorns in his side that he had in his grasp and just fricking let go. Because Thrawn in the books isn't a smartly written character, he's a caricature of smart people written by a dumb person for people even dumber than he is.
Thrawn is competent, but he isn't brilliant. Most of his victories rely on the element of surprise and informational disparities. When he doesn't have those factors behind him, he often loses.
Thrawn is also a shit diplomat. C'Baoth and the Noghri both betrayed him as soon as they could.
In the final battle at Bilbringi, Ackbar was winning handily even before the Noghri assassinated Thrawn.
>The writers clearly want him to seem like a hyper-competent villain but he's just a blue bozo.
The writers have orders to sabotage any competency on the part of Imperials. They can never be allowed to give watchers reason to hero worship them or applaud their cunning or gain satisfaction at the impediment to the 'good guys' any such competency may represent or obstruct them.
Yeah to anyone who doesn't know Thrawn is supposed to be intelligent he just comes off as a generic imperial bad guy. The rule of smart characters hold true: they are only as smart as the person writing them and Filoni just can't do it.
To be fair guy is a villain in a fricking cartoon so moronic that a starship capable of vaporizing cities can't kill two big dogs in open field. It's all complete bullshit for little kids.
>Andor
One of the most boring things i've ever seen in my life. I couldn't even finish it. Easily a 0/10 show, the abysmal ratings is proof enough. >Ahsoka
Like everyone else I didn't watch and from what i've seen in clips and reviews, it just more garbage gayoloni slop with more the force is female nonsense. >Mando
s1/2 were both around 6/10 with 2 being worse. As for s3, I dropped it mid point because of how horrible it was. >Obi-wan
0/10 and I dropped after ep 3, still flabbergasted by how awful it was. >Boba Fett
absolute dogshit, nothing more to say than that.
I switched off the Mandalorian after the second episode. Absolute shit, especially the concept of retconning a minor bounty hunter character into a representative of an entire civilization with their special armor.
I have persisted with Ahsoka because Rosario Dawson and the character she represents are hot. Sabine Wren and Ezra are lame and reminiscent of Mandalorian quality, but they are offset by Thrawn, Morgan Elsbeth and most importantly Baylan and Shin.
Based on Ahsoka, I would give Andor a try. As usual the juvenile tastes of this forum are utterly unreliable.
Ahsoka cameoing in Mando made her seem a lot funner and spiritually grounded than what we see in her show. Also just feels like Dawson is hardcore phoning it in with her acting. I've seen her in other stuff, I know she's far more capable than "look stoically into the distance with arms crossed"
This version of the NR has been set up across multiple shows and movies as being ineffective, corrupt and generally too stupid to exist, because it all has to lead into their political capital getting evaporated in Force Awakens.
Senator McAsianGuy will likely end up be a double agent for the Empire, or at least taking bribes.
>Senator McAsianGuy will likely end up be a double agent for the Empire, or at least taking bribes.
That's the impression I got. The dude is so needlessly antagonistic towards his own people there is no way he isn't an imperial plant.
that asiatic is actually the commander of that station in the Resistance cartoon, and the dad of the main guy...or was it the dad of the main guy's love interest? don't remember, didn't watch the show
7 months ago
Anonymous
>Senator McAsianGuy will likely end up be a double agent for the Empire, or at least taking bribes.
Apparently he's not. He's the father of a guy in the 2d animated Resistance show (which I had no idea existed until last week) and he's just an butthole for no real reason.
Resistance? Glad I missed that bullet.
If they wanna do a pointlessly obstreperous butthole politician character who's only in it for himself, one already exists.
Where my homie Borsk at?
7 months ago
Anonymous
>ywn have a genius scientist feathered gf that makes superweapons for a living
7 months ago
Anonymous
Feels extremely bad, man.
Nowadays she'd have autism, too. Literally the perfect woman.
7 months ago
Anonymous
7 months ago
Anonymous
ironically Resistance was much, much better than the sequels themselves
it was still forgettable and pointless though
>Senator McAsianGuy will likely end up be a double agent for the Empire, or at least taking bribes.
Apparently he's not. He's the father of a guy in the 2d animated Resistance show (which I had no idea existed until last week) and he's just an butthole for no real reason.
It's amazing how Star Wars has become a road to nowhere because of the Sequel trilogy.
7 months ago
Anonymous
I find it deeply amusing that they are making so many "high stakes" things in the post-rotj era.
We already know the Imperial Remants/Thrawn fail lmao.
7 months ago
Anonymous
Yeah its the same energy as trying to hype up pre-ANH stuff, we all know where its going. Or all those Darth Vader comics which spun out into sequel justification. I would say I was a star wars fan but clearly its become a bloated narrative corpse at this point.
Star Wars has been "looks cool but makes no sense" for a long time now. But I do have to admit that kintsugi-inspired Stormtroopers is a cool aesthetic...
the height of Star Wars now is probably just cool designs and that's it. Like the Chimera in Kintsugi.
God the Chimera markings are supposed to represent Liberty btw. It's amazing how Timothy Zahn wrote two entirely new Thrawn Trilogies and then Filoni promptly shit all over them.
7 months ago
Anonymous
There are no stakes in Ahsoka whatsoever. The good guys simply don't lose. They're not allowed to lose. Sometimes it might seem like they lose, like when Sabine got a lightsaber through the gut, or when Baylan pushed Ahsoka in the sea. But they always bounce right back like nothing happened. No stakes. No one is allowed to get hurt badly or die if they're a good guy. Dying is reserved for baddies, especially baddies that are wearing weird masks or helmets.
7 months ago
Anonymous
The fact that they did the fake out death thing at least 3 times this ep (ship crashing, Ezra jump and jump on ship at end) shows how fricking bankrupt they are for stakes.
7 months ago
Anonymous
Don't get me started on that fricking jump to the ship. Absolute trash.
7 months ago
Anonymous
At least the real Road To Nowhere is a fun Talking Heads song
I can't even say that about the sequels
They don't even set the Republic up as something anyone should feel sorry for. It's not an idealistic project that was sabotaged, it's something you should apparently hate. There was not a single positive aspect about it that was shown, it's all red tape and incompetence.
7 months ago
Anonymous
There's space for a discussion on whether the Republic is even a good thing anymore, given where Galatic governance has ended up previously. Of course that won't happen and the closest we get is Hera saying frick you to a Senator.
7 months ago
Anonymous
Gotta love how Disney portrays democracy as innately doomed to fail and space Nazis are tenacious, cool and continue to build superweapons with ease....
The NR after the fall of the empire was weak though and that's canon. The First Order came from a merger of former imperial elements and republic elements that were sick of weak and ineffective leadership.
7 months ago
Anonymous
The NR from the old canon? The won that spent the next several decades pretty handedly dealing with galactic level threats successfully until it became the Galactic Federation of Free Alliances?
>especially the concept of retconning a minor bounty hunter character into a representative of an entire civilization with their special armor.
The Mandalorians have existed for like 30 years
I judge the quality of Star Wars content by what my boomer normalgay parents think of it when I watch it with them.
My dad was born in 1949 and my mom in 1956. Both of them love the original six films, and my dad will always switch the channel to PT or OT Star Wars if it comes on, and won't switch it away until they're through or unless he has to take a shit.
My dad however was literally bored to sleep by the Force Awakens, and hasn't watched any other (new) Star Wars content since - excepting Rogue One, because that puts him to sleep even faster than TFA, so he uses it as a sleep aid.
My mom liked the sequels (shame on her) but she also demanded to watch all of Clone Wars, and Rebels, and Rogue One, and Solo, and Mandalorian (she's a Baby Yeed mom), and Book of Boba Fett, and even Kenobi (painful to watch, that), and she still wants to try Bad Batch and Ahsoka and Andor but it's hard to find an opportunity these days the way my sister hogs all her free time watching shit like Amazing Race or those home renovation shows on TLC or whatever. So far, her only complaints are that Luke and Leia and the fat mandalorian played by Jon Favreau died. That's a lot less complaints than I have, but she is more thrilled/excited over certain shows than others: she seemed to have the most fun (outside of the PT/OT) with TCW, Rebels, and Mandalorian, and I find that those were the most enjoyable to me (but less than the PT/OT), and is less excited for other things, but simply isn't offended by them.
Since I haven't watched Andor, Ahsoka, or Bad Batch yet, I'm not in a good position to criticize or praise them, but from what I've seen of them, I'm not very hopeful.
My parents were both born in the early 60s. None of them liked the sequel trilogy, dad liked Rogue One, both liked S1 & S2 of Mando and were disappointed by S3. The one they both enjoyed the most was Andor, and I told them not to bother with anything else.
Andor is the standout because they'd watch cop/spy/etc. style shows like that anyway, and Gilroy has experience with the Bourne movies, so that makes sense.
>The one they both enjoyed the most was Andor,
that's not a surprise, my parents spend all their time watching NCIS and the Blacklist and Blue Bloods and Law and Order and Breaking Bad and Dexter and 24, and all that sort of trash, Andor would probably my right up their alley, but I find their taste in primetime television dramas completely unbearable
Drive his run down Star Destroyer to some Outer Rim Third World Jobber planet to recruit a bunch of canon fodder for the cartoon patrol to easily quip-defeat in their direct-to-video “Movie”
- Sabine, confirmed to not be Force sensitive, can now use the Force cuz she wants it bad enough
- Nightsisters are from a different galaxy entirely
- Father, Daughter & Son teased in the closing (picrel), ominous temple in the distance
- Already have established time travel using the Force from Rebels
I have a really bad feeling about what Filoni intends to do in terms of fricking with the DNA of Star Wars & the Force...
>I have a really bad feeling about what Filoni intends to do in terms of fricking with the DNA of Star Wars & the Force...
in his new star wars universe star wars will because total;y degenerate and unrecognizable. Somehow Feloni has stolen Star Wars from us and George Lucas.
>I have a really bad feeling about what Filoni intends to do in terms of fricking with the DNA of Star Wars & the Force...
That's what Disney wants. DEI applied to Disney Wars. Everybody has the Force, everybody can become a Jedi because it has no meaning anymore.
This dumb shit completely destroys Star Wars (prequel and original trilogies) because now Palpatine/Sidious is a joke, his Clone War and the Order 66 didn't work.
The show needed one or two writers who actually had a vision and a story they wanted to tell with a solid emotional core to a story that says something about the human condition.
Filoni has none of that. He's shitting these out because Kennedy told him to.
Definitely needs a writer's room. Filoni, like George, is terrible at writing dialogue most of the time. He can rarely get some good stuff on his own (Siege of Mandalore, Tales of the Jedi Dooku episodes), but his dialogue in live-action have often been more of a miss than hit. He didn't actually write a single episode of the original Clone Wars run, by the way. Because it had George handing over the overall story arc outline and then the actual writers with experience that they brought from live-action would write a script. And it shows just how much fricking better the dialogue is in that show compared to any "Mandoverse" show and the characters actually act like fricking people and are allowed to emote, as opposed to the characters being stoic lifeless cross-armed planks of wood that occasionally throw away some vague one liner.
george might have issues with dialogue, but at least george himself is aware of this and can still write a good story despite that
i have yet to see any proof that filoni is a good writer, most of his work on tcw was directing with the writing being done by other people
>i have yet to see any proof that filoni is a good writer
Some of the Rebels episodes (Ahsoka vs Vader, Maul vs Kenobi), Tales of the Jedi and TCW finale were very good. He can do it when he cares. I don't know, he just sucks at live-action. I blame Favreau's influence and him being afraid of directing actors to show emotions in live-action, as if there is any difference between animation and live-action, when George was literally teaching him to make Clone Wars as if it was a live-action show with live-action sensibilities. Filoni can get great performances out of the actors, but either because he is unwilling to or because live-action actors he hired are bad - he rarely gets those good performances in live-action.
Animation and live-action directing are very different. Hell, just the fact that you aren't limited in terms of camera placement/movement in animation means you can pull off far more interesting shots.
>and im fairly certain he didnt write the ToTJ episodes
Yes, he literally did write all the episode, aside from the second one with Dooku where he and Mace Windu go to Raxus. You can literally look up the credits instead of willingly choosing to make yourself look like an ignorant fool.
7 months ago
Anonymous
or you could post it to support your claim
7 months ago
Anonymous
too lazy to grab screencaps from the show so I just went to IMDB
stop being moronic and look it up yourself next time
7 months ago
Anonymous
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Are you autistic?
Do I have to wipe your ass, too? Fricking moron.
that wasnt so hard was it?
7 months ago
Anonymous
it's not hard, but it's a hassle we shouldn't have to be put through when you can do it your damn self
7 months ago
Anonymous
You are a fricking moron and should be gatekept. You should not be rewarded for your moronation. You should be told to have a nice day. That's it. You are too stupid, you insult everyone ITT with your stupidity, you make false claims that you never back up because you don't care, and you expect people to do the work for you. Slit your wrists, you fricking mongoloid.
7 months ago
Anonymous
?
Are you autistic?
Do I have to wipe your ass, too? Fricking moron.
>even tie pilot gear is all fricked up and cracked somehow
I like how they can maintain fricking starfighters but plastic armor just shatters apparently.
Star Wars has been "looks cool but makes no sense" for a long time now. But I do have to admit that kintsugi-inspired Stormtroopers is a cool aesthetic...
The nicest thing I can say about Ahsoka as a show is that Kevin Kiner has really improved as a composer since the Clone Wars days and some of the stuff he's doing with the Japanese ensemble is *chef's kiss*
What? This stuff was the most generic dollar store Star Wars sounding music yet. It felt completely phoned in and lacked the ability to add any emotion to a scene.
5 => 4 => 3 > 6 > 1 => 2 > Genndy Tarkovsky Clone Wars > anything else SW related made by George Lucas > the rest is made for fricking homosexuals and I am ashamed to have watched force awakens but feel extremely superior to you queers who keep watching Disney rape the corse of by Star Wars
stakes?? You can’t be serious. There are no stakes. I count 7 lightsaber fights so far, and what have been the consequences? Several droids have died, Sabine was impaled but is 100% fine in the very next episode, and a mystery man who turned out to be literally nobody exploded in green smoke. Did I miss anything? Ahsoka “loses” a duel and falls off a cliff but, again, is absolutely fine, because she wins another duel in a dream sequence. ~Stakes~
I’m not gonna get into your “technical elements” but suffice it to say that’s an equally absurd thing to claim is on display in these duels. Hayden is the only one to show off any technical skills. Though it unfortunately served to highlight the woeful lack of apparent training these other actors, specifically Rosario, have undergone to be able to play these roles. If I were playing a Jedi I would be trying so hard to get the moves down and look natural. Rosario looks painfully out of her depth, floundering physically, and it’s not some slower-paced style of lightsaber duel so we can focus on the glaring lack of stakes or the nonexistent technical elements.
Vader vs. Ben: Ben dies.
Luke vs. Vader: Luke loses hand, fails to save friends.
Luke vs. Vader: Luke almost falls to the dark side, spares his father, is subdued and nearly killed by the Emperor, prompting Anakin to return, save his son, and destroy the Sith once and for all, freeing the galaxy.
Maul vs. Qui-Gon & Obi-Wan: Qui-Gon is killed, Anakin’s fate is forever changed, Maul is killed, signaling the onset of an ancient power struggle.
Dooku vs. Anakin, Obi-Wan, Yoda: Anakin rushes in anger like Luke, loses a hand like him too, both are almost killed but Yoda chooses to save them, thereby letting Dooku escape, starting the Clone Wars.
Anakin vs. Dooku: Anakin executes an unarmed prisoner in cold blood for revenge, an act that marks his slipping fall to the dark side, and brings the war nearly to an end.
Obi-Wan vs. Grievous: Obi-Wan kills the droid general, ending the Clone Wars.
Sidious vs. Mace & co.: co are killed, Palpatine is made vulnerable, manipulates Anakin into attacking Mace, then kills the Jedi master, cementing Anakin’s fall to the dark side, rechristening him Darth Vader, and initiating the Jedi Purge.
Sidious vs. Yoda: Yoda fails to defeat the Sith Lord and prevent him from creating the Empire, exiles himself on Dagobah.
Anakin vs. Obi-Wan: Obi-Wan defeats his apprentice, cripples his friend, and halts Vader’s rise to power, permanently transforming him into a grim, masked franken-monster.
So, we have approx. 1-2 duels per film, and there are fairly drastic consequents following each fight. Those are called stakes. What if Maul hadn’t killed Qui-Gon? What if Anakin and Obi-Wan had defeated Dooku together the first time? What is Yoda had stopped Sidious? What if Anakin had killed Obi-Wan? What if Luke had joined Vader at Cloud City, or been killed? What if Vader had not been spared by his son? What if he had not saved Luke? These are all hair-raising questions that would have far-reaching ramifications across the story and the galaxy. Meanwhile, Ahsoka as a character is immune from being harmed because the writer won’t allow it. This show is without a lick of tension in its conflicts. Sabine loses a fight; nothing happens, she’s all better two days later. Completely unscathed. Ahsoka loses a fight; nothing happens, she’s all better a few hours later. Completely unscathed. Empowered, even! Ahsoka the White. No event has any weight, no moral choices are faced, no mistakes are made, and nobody is in danger but NPCs. This is a stake-free nothingburger.
So was last night the season finale of Ashoka? Are you kidding me? It was such a shit non ending and only had one shot of best girl and best guy doing absolutely nothing. We still never got Skol’s mission or backstory. Just shitloads of filler.
Frick Star Wars! God damn! Andor was a flash in the pan it would be so easy to keep going that route but we get this boring fricking drawn out slop instead
>boring design-by-committee corporate slop: bad >boring design-by-committee corporate slop BUT WITH A COMMUNIST MEXICAN: good
who makes these fricking posts?
Shut the frick up. Andor had dialogue and themes that people with above 90 IQs could appreciate. Ashoka dialogue was like two lesbian ex-lovers awkwardly talking to each other for several minutes at a time
Andor had actual ON-SCREEN LESBIANS TALKING ABOUT THEIR RELATIONSHIP
it is literally the most homosexual piece of Star Wars motion picture content ever
Yea but the fact that the Poo-in-Loo wasn't really into the blonde one and was only doing it to secure her loyalty to the cause is a bit better than "I AM A homosexual AND I'M HERE TO STAY AND YOU GOTTA DEAL WITH IT!"
>admits there's homosexualry, but it's ok when somebody not Filoni does it
7 months ago
Anonymous
Gotta admit, if the choice was endless homosexualry but good writing over no homosexualry but the shitty writing we're getting, then call me Sophie cuz I can't choose.
7 months ago
Anonymous
the presence of homosexualry a priori excludes the presence of good writing
unless of course it's kept strictly in the closet for humor's sake, like Paul Lynde or Charles Nelson Reilly, but I don't think anybody wants Star Wars to revert to Match Game or Hollywood Squares
Yea but the fact that the Poo-in-Loo wasn't really into the blonde one and was only doing it to secure her loyalty to the cause is a bit better than "I AM A homosexual AND I'M HERE TO STAY AND YOU GOTTA DEAL WITH IT!"
Filoni is a hack. De canonized everything including the OT since ROTJ sucks ass. Start with the old republic and this way it won't get bogged down by prophecies and future events delegitimizing things. Give Tony Gilroy full control over the plot
If Star Wars was to even take back some of its former dignity, it would have to scrap this dogshit idea surrounding content set only post clone wars/original trilogy. The constant need to bank on nostalgia is making the world feel extremely small.
Mando S1 was regarded well due to the fact it came out during the Rise of Skywalker. Star Wars by that time was already struggling bad so it was a breath of fresh air. Season 2 got bogged down with nostalgia baiting and season 3 was abysmally stupid
Book of boba fett was good for one episode but otherwise moronic
Obiwan was a fricking travesty and shouldn’t be recognised
Bad batch was good purely because it seems it had very little in the way of corporate interference, but only when the episodes were centred around the clones and the empire. Otherwise the omega storyline and the trandoshan are insufferable and make it downright unwatchable at times
Andor was an absolute 180. After book of boba fett and obi wan, it was refreshing to have a grounded version of Star Wars and have imperials be competent. The ISB is far more competent than grand admiral thrawn. Seeing the small acts of rebellion that build to something bigger is really good to watch. You don’t have to like it. But it doesn’t rely on nostalgia bait too heavily nor fan service. Unfortunately it was not going to be enough to repair the brand image
Ashoka is pure fan service, and a child’s adaptation of heir to the empire. I didn’t need to watch it because every episode was effectively spoiled on x for me. But Thrawn is a fricking moron. Sabine is somehow immune to death, Luke is nowhere to be seen, Ezra is a bad plot device and less of a character. The only interesting ideas this show had was baylan and shin. Even then they have zero conclusion.
Disney Star Wars is a travesty because they desperately want their sequels to work. But they’re post weaving the story to make sense, and nobody cares at this point.
Baylan and Shin aren't I interesting characters, Niatoos. >What if the Mofugghin' BAD GUY was doing BAD THINGS but for LE gREATER GOOD
homosexual. Your channel sucks. Tony Gilroy should have complete control over star wars
The Andor show could've used a few more aliens and droids to be kino 10/10
in fact star wars shit only truly shines when you get more aliens droids and weirdos rather than humans.
I haven't watched a single episode and have just heard about random parts of Ashoka and how they are using it to probably make a movie set between 6 and 7. What the frick has even happened (if anything)? Apparently Thrawn came back and loaded cargo for 4 episodes?
>watching Star Wars after last decade
ISHYGDDT
Notice how every single one of the shows you listed threw in a Skywalker to boost ratings. They lack all substance and rely solely on memberberries.
Mando one is really nice, it just drops off. Also parts of the first few eps of Boba could have been turned into a decent 90 minute film. Nothing redeeming at all in Obi
pacing can't help a shit story, it was absolutely pointless. you are right on the budget though, it was weird to me that it was the cheapest starwars show
>it was weird to me that it was the cheapest starwars show
It's because it was always planned to be a film and then stretched out. Same reason why the pacing was fricked
I hate Ahsoka, didn't finish Clone Wars, never got into rebels and think Cameos ruined Mando.
Is there ANY chance I could enjoy Ahsoka? Is it an actually well written story that draws in people naturally or is it a story that only people that like Ahsoka and Filoni to begin with will enjoy?
It’s worse than Clone Wars and Rebels, which are already pretty bad and difficult to sit through. The entire thing is filled with a few brief moments of kino from Stevenson and Mikkelson.
I've finished the Mandalorian and now at the last credit scene they're rolling over the concept art for each episode's peak in the story.
They're so amazing, why don't they make visual novels with those? Audio effects + prose on top of those, they ought to be cheaper.
>Kino
New Hope
Empire
Kotor 1 and 2
Jedi Outcast
I jedi
Heir to the Empire
Lost Stars
>Great
Republic Commando
OG Battlefront 1 and 2
Jedi Academy
X-Wing novels
X-wing games
Clone Wars (tartakovsky)
New Jedi Order Series
SW Galaxies
Rogue Squadron games
>Good
Revenge of the Sith
Mando s1
Darth Bane
Rogue One
Andor
Galactic Battlegrounds
>Flawed but fun
Phantom Menace
AOTC
Junior/young Jedi Knights
New Battlefront
The Clone Wars (2008)
Solo
>Sub par
Mando s2
Obi Wan
Rebels
Bad Batch
>Bad
TFA
Book boba
Mando S3
Ahsoka
Rise of Skywalker
Trannies have tried to meme it up as “the good one” but it’s literally the same exact thing as she hulk or mandor or whatever other feces puke slop israelitesney queeves out.
People talk a lot in eloquent way and it's not outright moronic like the rest of the live action shows. But it's still boring as frick, pointless and overrated.
It treats the characters with intelligence, has excellent production design, and a very strong cast. It has an actual identity and mission beyond merely continuing Star Wars as a brand. It has flaws and it's easy to overrate it because Star Wars has been shit for over 20 years, but it's good.
It’s made by Disney. These “people” are literal pedophiles who hate you, hate Star Wars, want you dead and are actively involved in state legislation to legally define male children as women so they can be castrated and put in a dress. Zero difference or distinction between any given MCU movie, trandor, fricking Willow, Artemis Fowl or anything else, all the same exact 1:1 cancergarbage.
It treats the characters with intelligence, has excellent production design, and a very strong cast. It has an actual identity and mission beyond merely continuing Star Wars as a brand. It has flaws and it's easy to overrate it because Star Wars has been shit for over 20 years, but it's good.
Andor is the baseline for an acceptable Star Wars show, but homosexuals have their standards either too low and will eat all the slop or too high, where they're happy with nothing.
Nothing, it's just edgy cynical agitprop for self-proclaimed intellectuals.
more or less has it right. It's the kind of show a redditor wearing a fedora and trenchcoat would quote to defend communism and atheism. It's nothing like Star Wars and frankly brings nothing to the table except a really strong performance by Andy Serkis.
It’s all shit, you’re just too stupid and gay to understand that little mouseBlack person.
FPBP and /thread
None of this garbage is Star Wars. Tonally, thematically, creatively bankrupt trash. None of it fits with Lucas' films and vision. None of it fits in his world. It's content for the sake of content, it's a soulless corporate product wearing the vaguest "Star Wars" aesthetic like a mask.
Long live the EU
>None of it fits with Lucas' films and vision.
Lucas's vision changed every movie.
>the EU
You're shitposting.
No. You are. Die DisBlack person.
>N-no you!
You have semen on your chin.
It's promotional Jedi woman semen, got it with my good boy points.
Fab
All of them are frickton tiers below original and prequels
Fpbp. I don't know why american basedllenials are so obsessed with this low quality feces
FPBP and shut it down, the thread is garbage.
Samegay
>dog shit after a dog just ate a pile of some other dog’s shit >>>>>>>>>>> the festering crotch of a troony >> all of Yidsney wars
>Andor > > Mando >>> Pile of Shit >>> Ahsoka >>>>> Boba Fett > Obi-wan
ftfy
there's shit and then there's Boba Fett and Kenobi, the worst TV shows I've ever seen in my life, and all thanks to terrible writing and directing
obi wan was horrible and is only carried by the last 10 minutes
only "good" sw shows were the ones with clear vsion behind them, good or bad
andor - tony
mando - favreau
ahsoka - filoni
boba fett - favreau, filoni, rodríguez -- shit soup
obi-wan - all lucas film and kathy, too many cucks in the kitchen
ahsoka is far below mando and andor level
>the last 10 minutes
You mean the part where a sheboon chases child Luke Skywalker around the desert trying to kill him? Then Obi-Wan shows up and makes her apologize instead of outright killing her for the evil shit she's done and to keep the secret of who Luke is? Followed by a member berries scene with Qui Gon's ghost showing up for no reason? Those 10 minutes?
Now that you mention it, even those 10 minutes sucked.
Is the 90 minute cut of the season worth watching or is even that dogshit?
>Andor >> Obi-wan >>>> Pile of Shit >>> >>> Anything with Filoni
FTFY
Mando Season 1 > Season 2 > Garbage > Season 3 > Didn't watch the rest.
Andor is beloved by midwits who are confused by all the talking into thinking it's great. Only the firsr season of Mando was OK. All the others are trash.
>muh midwits
Blandordiots are the most insufferable homosexuals on this board and that includes Ahsoka viewers
>midwits who are confused by all the talking
>I have a low IQ and no attention span, that's why I prefer homosexualy lazer swords to military science and espionage thrillers
>samegayging yourself
obvious samegay phoneposter
So obvious. Frick off Theorygay.
You are aware you can get around posting filters by posting on a pc and a phone at the same time, right?
No I'm not, because I don't fricking care hiding anything, homosexual.
>i dont understand military science and espionage thrillers unless they are framed within my favorite space wizard story for kids
No one ever said that. When you have to literally make shit up to have something to argue against you know you've lost, or a least a high IQ rational person would. You will never be a real woman, all nonWhites will be purged, all israelites will burn in hell, etc.
season 1 of mandolorian was garbage
this, Disney sloppers on this board fooled me again
>bro watch Andro, ignore that the entiriety of the board says it's garbage and spams our threads
it sucked, irremediable trash
>bro watch the Mandalorian but only s1, s2 sucks
turns out s2 is the peak of it
Incredible Onions taste holy shit
>giving ximself away as an obvious recent tourist
wow exactly like we've pictured you
>recent
You dumb Black person, that filter is new
Andor >>>>>>>>>> Mando > Bobafett >Obiwan
reminder all nu wars is homosexual shit
>ahsoka above anything
Where does the bad batch rank?
worse than clone wars, better than rebels
That bad?
Starts off promising but quickly deviates into children's adventures of the week
Sort of like the inverse of Clone Wars
It's good despite the Bad Batch themselves. The quality of the show dramatically improves when the main group isn't present and its just focusing on Clones in the early Empire.
Still wish we'd have gotten a similar premise following an actual Commando squad or something and not these "wacky and different" clones
It has approximately 5 good episodes. All of those episodes feature Crosshair alone working for the Empire. This is not even debatable, everything else about the show is painfully boring and bad. Omeeeega fricking sucks.
I like their shady Trando handler.
>cartoons
Wtf I hate Cory Chase now
>Decent
Andor
Rogue One
>Passable
The Mandalorian S1-2
>Dogshit
The Last Jedi
Rise of Skywalker
Force Awakens
The Mandalorian S3
Book of Boba Fett
Solo
Ashoka
Based and correct. Rogue One is nothing more than honest, no nonsense nostalgia bait and that's fine.
nah, it's all dogshit
rogue one was ass, no idea how people defend it.
mando's first episode was maybe good, after that it just turned into the baby yoda show with meandering bullshit.
>rouge one
opinion discarded
Outside of Shin/ Baylon/ Anakin, the Ashoka show was very mediocre. The direction in the final episode was embarrassingly poor
Andor > Mando S1 > Ahsoka > Obiwan > Mando S3 > Boba Fett
>Excellent:
The OT
>Very Good
Andor
>Good
The PT (for world building and creativity)
Rogue One
Solo
Seasons 1 & 2 of Mandalorian
Best parts of the EU
Clone Wars
>Mediocre
Season 3 of Mandalorian
Ahsoka
Rebels
>Bad
Book of Boba Fett
Obi-Wan Kenobi
Resistance Cartoon
>Absolute Garbage
The Sequel Trilogy
Wtf I actually agree with an opinion on Cinemaphile for once
>kenobi
>not in absolute garbage
?
No no no.
>Actually good
The Empire Strikes Back
A New Hope
Andor
>Above average
The Last Jedi
Return of the Jedi
Mandalorian 1
>Mediocre
Mandalorian 2
Ahsoka
The Force Awakens
Solo
>Bad
Mandalorian 3
Revenge of the Sith
>Dogshit
Obi-Wan Kenobi
The Book of Boba Fett
The Phantom Menace
The Rise of Skywalker
Attack of the Clones
Andor is above average at best, dunno why you gays keep jerking over it when it’s just decent compared with all the other Disney wars trash
average
>The Last Jedi
average
>The Last Jedi
There are major aspects of it that are well-above average, but the movie as a whole is a chore. It's the only movie in the ST I've ever felt compelled to watch more than once, but I still had to skip large chunks of it to tolerate it.
The real problem is the whole starship chase with the whole plot about them going on a planet for absolutely fricking nothing. It's like 50% of the movie is useless.
This
When I rewatched it a year or two back I came to the conclusion that it's half good (the Luke/Rey/Kylo plot) and half really fricking bad (the Poe subplot, the Finn/Rose subplot, what they got wrong with Luke), and that the bad parts are awful enough to make the whole film utterly rubbish
Bait list. Move Revenge into above average. Phantom menace into mediocre and we’re good
I appreciate that you don't overrate Revenge of the Sith.
I cannot respect any opinion that puts any of the 3 sequels above the very bottom tier.
Rouge One should be very good, Solo is mediocre at best, Clone Wars is mediocre, Obiwan and Resistance should be garbage
Otherwise good list
>Rouge One should be very good
lol
elemao even
imagine not only watching disney slop but actively ranking it
Anybody who puts Andor on a pedestal is a cancerous moron who hates Star Wars. It's the Daniel Craig James Bond of Star Wars, i.e. the ultimate Anti-Star Wars, made for fartsniffing midwits who think they're above goyslop while gleefully consuming the pozzed chink leftovers.
Nah. It's just a decent and competently made which is more than you can say about anything Star Wars since the 80s.
Facts. Frick that dogshit. It's like a CBS crime procedural (NCIS, CSI, etc) larping as Star Wars on top of throwing in some pretentious twaddle monologues to really rile up the leftist redditors that still mindlessly support this creatively bankrupt muck masquerading as Star Wars. Absolute trash.
>meaningless buzzwords
it's ok to admit you got filtered anons
>
imagine getting made fun of by the people running lucasfilm, for crying. How did he ever recover lmao
>tfw you see screws in your space wizard fantasy show
Andor is to Star Wars what Game of Thrones is to fantasy. It's embarrassing how many manchildren were fooled into thinking they had adult tastes by watching this infantile left-wing corporate agitprop.
shit > disney star wars
>Andor
Le Sterile slop with people talking while making serious faces, lacking any semblance of SW soul that Lucas Saga had.
Andor is the definition of mediocrity that looks good in comparison to utter shittyness of the rest NuWars slop.
>lacking any semblance of SW soul
found the prequel generation homosexual that grew up with fake star wars
it's funny how trandorgays think that the OT and trandor have any semblance whatsoever
I urge you to watch the OT and trandor back to back and tell me with a straight face that they are similar in any way whatsoever
the OT was a family adventure film, a monomyth distilled into a space opera form, a story of coming of age and spiritualism
trandor is a bland, ugly, joyless, dull generic sci-fi drama set in space london
You will never be a real star wars fan
Exactly right. Everything you said is the truth. Andor is disgusting in its vain, shallow attempts at making Star Wars """edgy""" and """adult""" with swearing, sex, callous violence, and communist rhetoric.
>when your talking points are so bad you have to samegay
if you don't think the prequels had soul you are the cancer that killed star wars
I should not be at all surprised that the RLMcrowd dicksucks trandor
trandormind
even George Lucas said the fans would hate the prequels lol. I feel sorry for you. You dont even know the feeling of growing up with the OT
Star Wars bounty hunter, most based alongside Republic commando and KOTOR
Bounty Hunter is the most based piece of Star Wars content outside of the 6 Lucas movies. Nothing else is as good, nothing. You are full of cringe and AIDS if you disagree.
KOTOR was kino and Republic Commando was top tier shooter. I'll add the two BF to that list too ya c**t.
KOTOR and RC are positively plebeian compared to the quineaux of Jango and Zam adventures
Stop coomposting
No.
as bad as shows like Solo and Ahsoka and Kenobi are, they at least had the Star Wars spirit
Andor, like Rogue One, has all of the OT purist aesthetics, and none of the SOVL
>has all of the OT purist aesthetics
If only.
>they at least had the Star Wars spirit
kys. unironically.
Why are you incapable of nuance you ugly 45 IQ baboon gorilla Black person
I literally just said the shows are awful, but they accurately reproduced the feel of Star Wars by actually being light-hearted space operas for kids
Andor and Rogue One are Jack Bauer In Space, totally denuded of everything that makes Star Wars Star Wars except the flayed skin draped over it like Buffalo Bill
They have absolutely zero star wars spirit. That died with the sale
>the Star Wars spirit
Define this.
Wholesome pulp adventure enjoyable by the whole family with elements of the medieval chanson de geste.
Solo, as bad and unnecessary a film it is, at least falls within the idiom set by the franchise. The heroes journey in it is patently obvious, arguably too obvious, to the point of standardization, but it's there. It has the same emotional language, it just speaks like a moron. Much of Filoniwars follows this pattern, to greater or lesser degree, to greater or lesser quality.
Rogue One on the other hand, speaks an entirely different language. it is a cynical, moribund nostalgia-trip that exists for one reason and one reason alone: having toy army mans fight each other for the satisfaction of depressed, joyless, burnt-out gen-x manchildren trying to recapture the glory days of a life wasted.
This is all pretty close to accurate.
Though, I’d say having an occasional “joyless” Andor or Rogue One is ok as side pieces so long as the core remains wide-eyed pulpy fantasy
At this point, basic competence is completely lacking in writing and filmmaking. It’s hard to watch this D+ shit. It’s very amateur
>Though, I’d say having an occasional “joyless” Andor or Rogue One is ok as side pieces so long as the core remains wide-eyed pulpy fantasy
I'd accept that, if not for the legions of star wars-hating RLMgays who simp for Andor and Rogue One as OMG BEST STAR WARS EVER DECANONIZE EVERYTHING ELSE EXCEPT EMPIRE STRIKES BACK
this fandom is positively revolting, and it deserves every bit of suffering it receives
>It's good despite the Bad Batch themselves. The quality of the show dramatically improves when the main group isn't present and its just focusing on Clones in the early Empire.
ironically, that's one of my main gripes with Rogue One and Andor
Rogue One is enjoyable when you're following along the non-Ackbar guy and the moustachiod X-wing pilot, and Tarkin and butthurt Krennic
Andor is enjoyable when you're watching Stellan Skarsgard go "part of the crew, part of the ship" and Mon Mothma being the Leia equivalent
but when you're watching the band of unlikable misfits like Gin Ouzo, Castilian Andorra, Blazeit Malbong and Cheroot Imhigh, Quipbot 3000 and Durka Durka Muhammad Jihad walking around sullenly and being all angsty, who the frick wants to see that? that's not Star Wars, that's Dawson's Creek with ugly people
Where do you stack the prequels up?
in my completely honest opinion, I find the prequels to be ever so slightly less enjoyable than the original trilogy, but I wouldn't dare to rate any of them less than a 10
I rate Filoniwars/Mandoverse all somewhat less than the 6 Star Wars films
and I don't consider there to exist more than 6 Star Wars films, unless you're counting Ewoks: Caravan of Courage and Ewoks II: The Battle For Endor
for anything to matter, the film needs to be good. Solo was garbage
None of that shit has the Star Wars "spirit". Ironically enough, Rogue One is the only thing you mentioned that does. And George Lucas agrees, he actually applauded that movie and told Gareth Edwards that it's a movie he wishes he had thought to make. It's the only thing Disney has made that gets George's stamp of approval and could be considered canon with his films.
Found the clone wars troony
asoka is slightly better than obi wan and boba
ANDOR is king
I don't know how I can go back to star wars now, broskis. Andor is just... so good. The rest of star wars banal poorly written kiddie shit pales in comparison.
Rouge One and Andor are literally the best Star Wars. Finally, Star Wars for adults that is not embarrassing to watch. Everything else is fricking embarrassing. Honestly, go watch A New Hope, or even Empire Strikes Back - dogshit dialogue, hockey acting, shit action, goofy ass cringe shit all around, quips. Nothing on the level of Stellan Skarsgard or Andy Serkis. Nothing like impeccable Gilroy's tone and atmosphere. Star Wars is a dead fossil, and it needs to be rebooted. And Tony Gilroy is the right man. Everything else is fricking dogshit and terrible. You know I am right.
Let Gilroy remake the original trilogy and go from there.
Decanonize everything else except Andor and Rogue One.
Seriously, who wants this dumb shit?
Stupid ass MCU quipping teenagers taking down the Empire? A farmer boy? Fricking moronic kiddie garbage nonsense.
KK can redeem herself if she fires everyone except Gilroy and his team and reboots Star Wars to proper standards (such as Rogue One and Andor).
Hereby, I declare official Star Wars canon for mature sophisticated adults with taste:
Andor
Rogue One
Stop posting this copy pasta.
Rogue One is garbage compared with the OT.
kek prequel homosexuals wanted MORE slop in asoka, that is their only complaint
I can't stand this disingenuous fricktard.
God this homosexual is so insufferable
>God this homosexual is so insufferable
i wanted to see what he was saying so I tried watching his stream. THIS moron literally sits there in silence for like two hours as he watches and says nothing lol and people stream it
>He gets paid big bucks to rob Yidsney lovers of their money and sit around all day doing nothing.
Kinda based in a weird way.
He has never understood Star Wars. I truly do not know how he got such a following on YouTube. He's dumb as frick and has utterly garbage opinions while simping for Disney like a beaten dog hoping they throw him freebies and special treatment. The time he threw a tantrum because Disney wouldn't let him copyright and monetize his Darth Vader fanfilm was unreal. He thinks he owns Star Wars simply because morons watch his channel. That childish entitlement is unbelievable.
Say that to my face, buddy.
meatheads have no taste. Just look at people like Rogan and his comedy as another example.
He needs to be taking meds not peds
This guy is so weird to me. He looks like a normie guy that's really into golf or hockey or something, and he has that same sort of shallow enthusiasm but points it towards a media product. Truly a failed normie
>2 Mexicans and a black woman and a white guy
>all 4 have this ugly reddish skin
what is this crap?
Mando season 1 > Andor >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mando season 2 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> three first episodes of Mando season 3 (didn't watch the rest) > haven't watched the other shows
How popular is Ahsoka ratings wise?
They are so directionless it's insane.
Absolute dog shit.. I can't believe there people right now still talking with Disney employees instead of spitting in their faces before punching their faces. Fricking utter garbage
Pile of Shit >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> Ahsoka > Mando >>>>>> Obi-wan >>> Boba Fett
pile of shit >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>Instead of leaving immediately, I will send wave after wave of my own men to their deaths pointlessly, hoping that their dead bodies will form some sort of obstruction to prevent the Jedi from reaching me.
The final episode pissed me off so much. Every single thing Thrawn did was fricking moronic. The writers clearly want him to seem like a hyper-competent villain but he's just a blue bozo.
par for the course for Thrawn then
I wouldn't know, never watched Rebels or read any of the books about him. But it's pretty clear the writers just can't do smart characters. Why didn't he just sent out another couple of TIE fighters to confirm Ahsoka's ship was definitely down/finish it off. Why insist on docking the star destroyer with the hyperspace ring on the planet, the one place where it can be boarded? Why not do it in space? Better yet, just use the star destroyer to bombard Ahsoka's ship from space. Job done, mission complete, jedi's btfo.
Seems like it. You know that all of the main characters are always going to be fine so the action scenes are just a waste with no stakes whatsoever. They never lose, they never get hurt, or if they do get hurt they're totally fine in the next episode. Very cartoonish in that regard.
Its slightly hinted at that Thrawn is dealing with dwindling resources during his reintroduction so he doesn't want to overcommit to dealing with Ahsoka when his mind is more on dealing with the situation back in the home galaxy. This could have been outright addressed with an extra line of dialogue or two, however.
But beyond that, the Imps just can't win and the heroes can't lose. The fact that they road horse-wolves through a full turbolaser bombardment and didn't have a scratch on them is testament to the complete lack of stakes in these shows.
>Its slightly hinted at that Thrawn is dealing with dwindling resources
He have 2 battleships with 72+ spacefighters. He orders them to retreat when they pinned down Ahsoka ship and doesn't even bothers to destroy completely immobilized ship.
Not to mention his resources aren't supposed to be low since he did literally nothing for 10 years, just flew above the planet.
Considering how busted up his stormtroopers are and that some of them are undead, I'd say he's been fighting the locals quite a bit. Who knows how many TIEs he actually has left, and he wasn't gonna commit the Eye of Scion to combat because that was his only ticket out of there. He needed the Chimaera to deal with shit back in the home galaxy so wasn't gonna overcommit that, too.
The problem is that they want him to seem smart & refined in his strategy. He could've done everything you suggested if he was a cartoonish villain (which fits this show much better), but they hamstring him with this finesse that the writer's can't really manage properly.
In the end you just get a shitty villain.
>busted up his stormtroopers
They aren't. It's the same moronic storm troopers with piss poor accuracy, weak guns and paper armor
>undead
Even dumber stormtroopers.
I mean that their armor has been repaired dozens of times and is in poor condition. Its not like they ran out of armor polish, they've clearly seen combat in the time they've been exiled.
>they've clearly seen combat in the time they've been exiled.
Which means they were brutalised by crab people and "totally not orcs on wolves from LOTR/Warcraft".
I'm not saying they're good stormtroopers, I'm just saying that Thawn's Star Destroyer is likely not at full fighting complement for men, TIEs, etc., which is why he doesn't commit everything to killing Ahsoka.
He has the New Republic to deal with when he gets back and who knows how many Imperial warlords he'll have to feud with before he reunites the Remnant.
Sorry I meant to respond to
Par for the course for Filoni Thrawn.
feloni should only be allowed to make cartoons, since thats all he knows how to do
Filoni really did turn Thrawn into some Cobra Commander, Scooby-Doo shit
I rewatched Gargoyles recently and David Xanatos is a much better mastermind villain than Elon Smurf. Its super easy to write "no matter what happens I win" outcomes for a villain and the fact that Disney can't even manage that is an incredible condemnation.
Thrawn was like that in the old books. He was an intelligent, well done villain. He won, and not just because the heroes had to be written dumber to do it or this cartoonish nonsense in the show. All Filoni had to do was have Thrawn just take his ship and leave as soon as Ahsoka got there. It would have made him look infinitely more competent than spending 3 episodes on him saying "NOOOOO WE NEED MORE TIME TO LOAD THESE 30 BOXES ON MY SHIP SEND ALL MY TROOPS AND FIGHTERS TO DIE AAAAAAA"
Thrawn as a "smart villain character" cannot exist in the rest of Ahsoka. Its not an issue of rewriting the script or changing dialogue. What's been set up by the rest of the show just makes that character archetype impossible, you'd have to scrap the whole thing.
You didn't read them.
No. Obviously you didn't. Begone DisBlack person shill.
You are a fake fan who gets 100% of his star wars knowledge from wookieepedia.
Embarassing post from a moronic troglodyte Disney marketer. I read all books, you have no clue what you're talking about you dumb homosexual. But keep parroting nonsense from a shill script lmao
How many times did Thrawn have the heroes within his grasp in the og trilogy from 1991-1993 ON HIS OWN SHIP and let them go as all part of his master keikaku? Once? Twice? Three times? Certainly not four times? FIVE TIMES does Thrawn capture Mara Jade (three times for her alone), Luke Skywalker, and Talon Karrde, take them aboard his Star Destroyer Chimaera, and then get dunked on when they escape. This is excluding his boondoggles with other characters, these are goody-two-shoes thorns in his side that he had in his grasp and just fricking let go. Because Thrawn in the books isn't a smartly written character, he's a caricature of smart people written by a dumb person for people even dumber than he is.
Thrawn is competent, but he isn't brilliant. Most of his victories rely on the element of surprise and informational disparities. When he doesn't have those factors behind him, he often loses.
Thrawn is also a shit diplomat. C'Baoth and the Noghri both betrayed him as soon as they could.
In the final battle at Bilbringi, Ackbar was winning handily even before the Noghri assassinated Thrawn.
>The writers clearly want him to seem like a hyper-competent villain but he's just a blue bozo.
The writers have orders to sabotage any competency on the part of Imperials. They can never be allowed to give watchers reason to hero worship them or applaud their cunning or gain satisfaction at the impediment to the 'good guys' any such competency may represent or obstruct them.
Yeah to anyone who doesn't know Thrawn is supposed to be intelligent he just comes off as a generic imperial bad guy. The rule of smart characters hold true: they are only as smart as the person writing them and Filoni just can't do it.
If Filoni had his way I fricking guarantee he'd find a way to bring back his Thrawn wannabe from the dead yet again
But he beat them
To be fair guy is a villain in a fricking cartoon so moronic that a starship capable of vaporizing cities can't kill two big dogs in open field. It's all complete bullshit for little kids.
They tried to emotionally manipulate me but joke's on them, I'm dead inside.
Shit = Shit = Shit = Shit = Shit
Clone Wars > Mando > Andor > Rebels > Ahsoka > The Bad Batch > Visions > Obi-Wan > Pile of Shit > Boba Fett
Clone Wars = Andor > Bad Batch >Tales of the Jedi >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> who cares, the rest is all pile of shit
Ahsoka finale was utter dogshit. It was definitely not better than Mando S1.
>Andor
One of the most boring things i've ever seen in my life. I couldn't even finish it. Easily a 0/10 show, the abysmal ratings is proof enough.
>Ahsoka
Like everyone else I didn't watch and from what i've seen in clips and reviews, it just more garbage gayoloni slop with more the force is female nonsense.
>Mando
s1/2 were both around 6/10 with 2 being worse. As for s3, I dropped it mid point because of how horrible it was.
>Obi-wan
0/10 and I dropped after ep 3, still flabbergasted by how awful it was.
>Boba Fett
absolute dogshit, nothing more to say than that.
I switched off the Mandalorian after the second episode. Absolute shit, especially the concept of retconning a minor bounty hunter character into a representative of an entire civilization with their special armor.
I have persisted with Ahsoka because Rosario Dawson and the character she represents are hot. Sabine Wren and Ezra are lame and reminiscent of Mandalorian quality, but they are offset by Thrawn, Morgan Elsbeth and most importantly Baylan and Shin.
Based on Ahsoka, I would give Andor a try. As usual the juvenile tastes of this forum are utterly unreliable.
>Rosario Dawson and the character she represents are hot.
Well then you got cucked hard cuz she crosses her arms over her breasts 90% of the time...
Frick Rebels and frick Rosario Dawson (no flame, the headpiece is terrible).
Ahsoka and Sabine are the worst parts of the show, by far. And I like Rosario Dawson generally and thought she was good as Ashoka in Boba/ Mando.
It’s that the filmmaking seems so amateurish
Ahsoka cameoing in Mando made her seem a lot funner and spiritually grounded than what we see in her show. Also just feels like Dawson is hardcore phoning it in with her acting. I've seen her in other stuff, I know she's far more capable than "look stoically into the distance with arms crossed"
everything about the republic is way worse than Sabine and Ahsoka
Guess what….Democracies debate and disagree? That’s a normal part of the process. It doesn’t make them incompetent
This version of the NR has been set up across multiple shows and movies as being ineffective, corrupt and generally too stupid to exist, because it all has to lead into their political capital getting evaporated in Force Awakens.
Senator McAsianGuy will likely end up be a double agent for the Empire, or at least taking bribes.
>Senator McAsianGuy will likely end up be a double agent for the Empire, or at least taking bribes.
That's the impression I got. The dude is so needlessly antagonistic towards his own people there is no way he isn't an imperial plant.
that asiatic is actually the commander of that station in the Resistance cartoon, and the dad of the main guy...or was it the dad of the main guy's love interest? don't remember, didn't watch the show
Resistance? Glad I missed that bullet.
If they wanna do a pointlessly obstreperous butthole politician character who's only in it for himself, one already exists.
Where my homie Borsk at?
>ywn have a genius scientist feathered gf that makes superweapons for a living
Feels extremely bad, man.
Nowadays she'd have autism, too. Literally the perfect woman.
ironically Resistance was much, much better than the sequels themselves
it was still forgettable and pointless though
>Senator McAsianGuy will likely end up be a double agent for the Empire, or at least taking bribes.
Apparently he's not. He's the father of a guy in the 2d animated Resistance show (which I had no idea existed until last week) and he's just an butthole for no real reason.
It's amazing how Star Wars has become a road to nowhere because of the Sequel trilogy.
I find it deeply amusing that they are making so many "high stakes" things in the post-rotj era.
We already know the Imperial Remants/Thrawn fail lmao.
Yeah its the same energy as trying to hype up pre-ANH stuff, we all know where its going. Or all those Darth Vader comics which spun out into sequel justification. I would say I was a star wars fan but clearly its become a bloated narrative corpse at this point.
the height of Star Wars now is probably just cool designs and that's it. Like the Chimera in Kintsugi.
God the Chimera markings are supposed to represent Liberty btw. It's amazing how Timothy Zahn wrote two entirely new Thrawn Trilogies and then Filoni promptly shit all over them.
There are no stakes in Ahsoka whatsoever. The good guys simply don't lose. They're not allowed to lose. Sometimes it might seem like they lose, like when Sabine got a lightsaber through the gut, or when Baylan pushed Ahsoka in the sea. But they always bounce right back like nothing happened. No stakes. No one is allowed to get hurt badly or die if they're a good guy. Dying is reserved for baddies, especially baddies that are wearing weird masks or helmets.
The fact that they did the fake out death thing at least 3 times this ep (ship crashing, Ezra jump and jump on ship at end) shows how fricking bankrupt they are for stakes.
Don't get me started on that fricking jump to the ship. Absolute trash.
At least the real Road To Nowhere is a fun Talking Heads song
I can't even say that about the sequels
They don't even set the Republic up as something anyone should feel sorry for. It's not an idealistic project that was sabotaged, it's something you should apparently hate. There was not a single positive aspect about it that was shown, it's all red tape and incompetence.
There's space for a discussion on whether the Republic is even a good thing anymore, given where Galatic governance has ended up previously. Of course that won't happen and the closest we get is Hera saying frick you to a Senator.
Gotta love how Disney portrays democracy as innately doomed to fail and space Nazis are tenacious, cool and continue to build superweapons with ease....
The NR after the fall of the empire was weak though and that's canon. The First Order came from a merger of former imperial elements and republic elements that were sick of weak and ineffective leadership.
The NR from the old canon? The won that spent the next several decades pretty handedly dealing with galactic level threats successfully until it became the Galactic Federation of Free Alliances?
>especially the concept of retconning a minor bounty hunter character into a representative of an entire civilization with their special armor.
The Mandalorians have existed for like 30 years
>a pile of shit>>>>>ass cancer>>>>>>>>>
killings in africa>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>*1,000,000,000>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all starwars movies and tv shows
Frick Starwars, its all terrible
I judge the quality of Star Wars content by what my boomer normalgay parents think of it when I watch it with them.
My dad was born in 1949 and my mom in 1956. Both of them love the original six films, and my dad will always switch the channel to PT or OT Star Wars if it comes on, and won't switch it away until they're through or unless he has to take a shit.
My dad however was literally bored to sleep by the Force Awakens, and hasn't watched any other (new) Star Wars content since - excepting Rogue One, because that puts him to sleep even faster than TFA, so he uses it as a sleep aid.
My mom liked the sequels (shame on her) but she also demanded to watch all of Clone Wars, and Rebels, and Rogue One, and Solo, and Mandalorian (she's a Baby Yeed mom), and Book of Boba Fett, and even Kenobi (painful to watch, that), and she still wants to try Bad Batch and Ahsoka and Andor but it's hard to find an opportunity these days the way my sister hogs all her free time watching shit like Amazing Race or those home renovation shows on TLC or whatever. So far, her only complaints are that Luke and Leia and the fat mandalorian played by Jon Favreau died. That's a lot less complaints than I have, but she is more thrilled/excited over certain shows than others: she seemed to have the most fun (outside of the PT/OT) with TCW, Rebels, and Mandalorian, and I find that those were the most enjoyable to me (but less than the PT/OT), and is less excited for other things, but simply isn't offended by them.
Since I haven't watched Andor, Ahsoka, or Bad Batch yet, I'm not in a good position to criticize or praise them, but from what I've seen of them, I'm not very hopeful.
My parents were both born in the early 60s. None of them liked the sequel trilogy, dad liked Rogue One, both liked S1 & S2 of Mando and were disappointed by S3. The one they both enjoyed the most was Andor, and I told them not to bother with anything else.
Andor is the standout because they'd watch cop/spy/etc. style shows like that anyway, and Gilroy has experience with the Bourne movies, so that makes sense.
>The one they both enjoyed the most was Andor,
that's not a surprise, my parents spend all their time watching NCIS and the Blacklist and Blue Bloods and Law and Order and Breaking Bad and Dexter and 24, and all that sort of trash, Andor would probably my right up their alley, but I find their taste in primetime television dramas completely unbearable
What’s the next phase of his master plan?
Job, with no survivors
>What’s the next phase of his master plan?
he's going to buy X
Get betrayed and die
Drive his run down Star Destroyer to some Outer Rim Third World Jobber planet to recruit a bunch of canon fodder for the cartoon patrol to easily quip-defeat in their direct-to-video “Movie”
The master plan: using the nightsisters again and again
- Sabine, confirmed to not be Force sensitive, can now use the Force cuz she wants it bad enough
- Nightsisters are from a different galaxy entirely
- Father, Daughter & Son teased in the closing (picrel), ominous temple in the distance
- Already have established time travel using the Force from Rebels
I have a really bad feeling about what Filoni intends to do in terms of fricking with the DNA of Star Wars & the Force...
>I have a really bad feeling about what Filoni intends to do in terms of fricking with the DNA of Star Wars & the Force...
in his new star wars universe star wars will because total;y degenerate and unrecognizable. Somehow Feloni has stolen Star Wars from us and George Lucas.
>I have a really bad feeling about what Filoni intends to do in terms of fricking with the DNA of Star Wars & the Force...
That's what Disney wants. DEI applied to Disney Wars. Everybody has the Force, everybody can become a Jedi because it has no meaning anymore.
This dumb shit completely destroys Star Wars (prequel and original trilogies) because now Palpatine/Sidious is a joke, his Clone War and the Order 66 didn't work.
Was it a good idea to have Felony write ALL the episodes or did this show need a writer's room?
The show needed one or two writers who actually had a vision and a story they wanted to tell with a solid emotional core to a story that says something about the human condition.
Filoni has none of that. He's shitting these out because Kennedy told him to.
Definitely needs a writer's room. Filoni, like George, is terrible at writing dialogue most of the time. He can rarely get some good stuff on his own (Siege of Mandalore, Tales of the Jedi Dooku episodes), but his dialogue in live-action have often been more of a miss than hit. He didn't actually write a single episode of the original Clone Wars run, by the way. Because it had George handing over the overall story arc outline and then the actual writers with experience that they brought from live-action would write a script. And it shows just how much fricking better the dialogue is in that show compared to any "Mandoverse" show and the characters actually act like fricking people and are allowed to emote, as opposed to the characters being stoic lifeless cross-armed planks of wood that occasionally throw away some vague one liner.
george might have issues with dialogue, but at least george himself is aware of this and can still write a good story despite that
i have yet to see any proof that filoni is a good writer, most of his work on tcw was directing with the writing being done by other people
>i have yet to see any proof that filoni is a good writer
Some of the Rebels episodes (Ahsoka vs Vader, Maul vs Kenobi), Tales of the Jedi and TCW finale were very good. He can do it when he cares. I don't know, he just sucks at live-action. I blame Favreau's influence and him being afraid of directing actors to show emotions in live-action, as if there is any difference between animation and live-action, when George was literally teaching him to make Clone Wars as if it was a live-action show with live-action sensibilities. Filoni can get great performances out of the actors, but either because he is unwilling to or because live-action actors he hired are bad - he rarely gets those good performances in live-action.
Animation and live-action directing are very different. Hell, just the fact that you aren't limited in terms of camera placement/movement in animation means you can pull off far more interesting shots.
>filoni defense force out in full swing
siege of mandalore has so many contrivences it makes it unenjoyable to watch
and im fairly certain he didnt write the ToTJ episodes
>and im fairly certain he didnt write the ToTJ episodes
Yes, he literally did write all the episode, aside from the second one with Dooku where he and Mace Windu go to Raxus. You can literally look up the credits instead of willingly choosing to make yourself look like an ignorant fool.
or you could post it to support your claim
too lazy to grab screencaps from the show so I just went to IMDB
stop being moronic and look it up yourself next time
that wasnt so hard was it?
it's not hard, but it's a hassle we shouldn't have to be put through when you can do it your damn self
You are a fricking moron and should be gatekept. You should not be rewarded for your moronation. You should be told to have a nice day. That's it. You are too stupid, you insult everyone ITT with your stupidity, you make false claims that you never back up because you don't care, and you expect people to do the work for you. Slit your wrists, you fricking mongoloid.
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Are you autistic?
Do I have to wipe your ass, too? Fricking moron.
He needed a fricking editor.
>even tie pilot gear is all fricked up and cracked somehow
I like how they can maintain fricking starfighters but plastic armor just shatters apparently.
Star Wars has been "looks cool but makes no sense" for a long time now. But I do have to admit that kintsugi-inspired Stormtroopers is a cool aesthetic...
The nicest thing I can say about Ahsoka as a show is that Kevin Kiner has really improved as a composer since the Clone Wars days and some of the stuff he's doing with the Japanese ensemble is *chef's kiss*
What? This stuff was the most generic dollar store Star Wars sounding music yet. It felt completely phoned in and lacked the ability to add any emotion to a scene.
I agree it wasn't Star Wars music at all, but I nevertheless look forward to a comprehensive album for this show.
Bad Batch, TOTJ and mid-late Clone Wars all had superior music, written by Kiners as well.
Ahsoka's theme still remains his peak work, IMO.
Yea there's some choice stuff in late TCW, my bad...
The entire Siege of Mandalore OST is giga kino.
For me Ahsoka = Mando after season 1 = Pile of Shit = Obi-wan = Boba Fett
5 => 4 => 3 > 6 > 1 => 2 > Genndy Tarkovsky Clone Wars > anything else SW related made by George Lucas > the rest is made for fricking homosexuals and I am ashamed to have watched force awakens but feel extremely superior to you queers who keep watching Disney rape the corse of by Star Wars
stakes?? You can’t be serious. There are no stakes. I count 7 lightsaber fights so far, and what have been the consequences? Several droids have died, Sabine was impaled but is 100% fine in the very next episode, and a mystery man who turned out to be literally nobody exploded in green smoke. Did I miss anything? Ahsoka “loses” a duel and falls off a cliff but, again, is absolutely fine, because she wins another duel in a dream sequence. ~Stakes~
I’m not gonna get into your “technical elements” but suffice it to say that’s an equally absurd thing to claim is on display in these duels. Hayden is the only one to show off any technical skills. Though it unfortunately served to highlight the woeful lack of apparent training these other actors, specifically Rosario, have undergone to be able to play these roles. If I were playing a Jedi I would be trying so hard to get the moves down and look natural. Rosario looks painfully out of her depth, floundering physically, and it’s not some slower-paced style of lightsaber duel so we can focus on the glaring lack of stakes or the nonexistent technical elements.
Vader vs. Ben: Ben dies.
Luke vs. Vader: Luke loses hand, fails to save friends.
Luke vs. Vader: Luke almost falls to the dark side, spares his father, is subdued and nearly killed by the Emperor, prompting Anakin to return, save his son, and destroy the Sith once and for all, freeing the galaxy.
Maul vs. Qui-Gon & Obi-Wan: Qui-Gon is killed, Anakin’s fate is forever changed, Maul is killed, signaling the onset of an ancient power struggle.
Dooku vs. Anakin, Obi-Wan, Yoda: Anakin rushes in anger like Luke, loses a hand like him too, both are almost killed but Yoda chooses to save them, thereby letting Dooku escape, starting the Clone Wars.
Anakin vs. Dooku: Anakin executes an unarmed prisoner in cold blood for revenge, an act that marks his slipping fall to the dark side, and brings the war nearly to an end.
(cont)
Obi-Wan vs. Grievous: Obi-Wan kills the droid general, ending the Clone Wars.
Sidious vs. Mace & co.: co are killed, Palpatine is made vulnerable, manipulates Anakin into attacking Mace, then kills the Jedi master, cementing Anakin’s fall to the dark side, rechristening him Darth Vader, and initiating the Jedi Purge.
Sidious vs. Yoda: Yoda fails to defeat the Sith Lord and prevent him from creating the Empire, exiles himself on Dagobah.
Anakin vs. Obi-Wan: Obi-Wan defeats his apprentice, cripples his friend, and halts Vader’s rise to power, permanently transforming him into a grim, masked franken-monster.
So, we have approx. 1-2 duels per film, and there are fairly drastic consequents following each fight. Those are called stakes. What if Maul hadn’t killed Qui-Gon? What if Anakin and Obi-Wan had defeated Dooku together the first time? What is Yoda had stopped Sidious? What if Anakin had killed Obi-Wan? What if Luke had joined Vader at Cloud City, or been killed? What if Vader had not been spared by his son? What if he had not saved Luke? These are all hair-raising questions that would have far-reaching ramifications across the story and the galaxy. Meanwhile, Ahsoka as a character is immune from being harmed because the writer won’t allow it. This show is without a lick of tension in its conflicts. Sabine loses a fight; nothing happens, she’s all better two days later. Completely unscathed. Ahsoka loses a fight; nothing happens, she’s all better a few hours later. Completely unscathed. Empowered, even! Ahsoka the White. No event has any weight, no moral choices are faced, no mistakes are made, and nobody is in danger but NPCs. This is a stake-free nothingburger.
meh, the tv show are lite versions of the movies, look the same but with very low stakes, what were you expecting?
Inosanto looked pretty damn great for a woman in her mid 50s, but I'd expect that from Bruce Lee's goddaughter....
>Obi-wan >>> Boba Fett
Boba is fricking shit, but no, Kenobi was way worst.
I only watched Andor and the way people talk about the other shows scares me from watching them.
Only season 1-2 of Mando, maybe. Season 3 puts it at the ass end
So was last night the season finale of Ashoka? Are you kidding me? It was such a shit non ending and only had one shot of best girl and best guy doing absolutely nothing. We still never got Skol’s mission or backstory. Just shitloads of filler.
Frick Star Wars! God damn! Andor was a flash in the pan it would be so easy to keep going that route but we get this boring fricking drawn out slop instead
>boring design-by-committee corporate slop: bad
>boring design-by-committee corporate slop BUT WITH A COMMUNIST MEXICAN: good
who makes these fricking posts?
Shut the frick up. Andor had dialogue and themes that people with above 90 IQs could appreciate. Ashoka dialogue was like two lesbian ex-lovers awkwardly talking to each other for several minutes at a time
Andor had actual ON-SCREEN LESBIANS TALKING ABOUT THEIR RELATIONSHIP
it is literally the most homosexual piece of Star Wars motion picture content ever
But the quality of the writing wasnt dogshit. That’s the difference. homosexualry in SW is cringe but the series as a whole doesnt suffer for it
>admits there's homosexualry, but it's ok when somebody not Filoni does it
Gotta admit, if the choice was endless homosexualry but good writing over no homosexualry but the shitty writing we're getting, then call me Sophie cuz I can't choose.
the presence of homosexualry a priori excludes the presence of good writing
unless of course it's kept strictly in the closet for humor's sake, like Paul Lynde or Charles Nelson Reilly, but I don't think anybody wants Star Wars to revert to Match Game or Hollywood Squares
Yea but the fact that the Poo-in-Loo wasn't really into the blonde one and was only doing it to secure her loyalty to the cause is a bit better than "I AM A homosexual AND I'M HERE TO STAY AND YOU GOTTA DEAL WITH IT!"
I tried Andor and holy frick it is so boring gay and cringe. IT ALL SUCKS
Im guessing the way that disney is, asohka is the only one that focuses on the title character?
Ahsoka focuses on Sabine actually.
Not only does it focus more on sabine, she is also a much more useful character considering she has way more skill sets then ashoka
Huh, well there you go.
Filoni is a hack. De canonized everything including the OT since ROTJ sucks ass. Start with the old republic and this way it won't get bogged down by prophecies and future events delegitimizing things. Give Tony Gilroy full control over the plot
>Muh IQ u dumb fuk IQ dum fuk bloodY bastard IQ IQ
Interesting analysis and level of dialogue in nu-wars threads.
First half of Boba Fett had the makings of a good story, there is nothing redeemable about Obi-wan
I knew Boba was fricked in the first scene WHEN HE PUNCHED THROUGH THE SAND AND LEFT THE MIGHTY SARLAC LIKE IT WAS A NOTHING BURGER HOLY SHIT
If Thrawn and the Night Sister Witches knew that they were being rescued, why did they wait so long to load the cargo into the Star Destroyer?
Because that was all apart of Thrawns plan
If Star Wars was to even take back some of its former dignity, it would have to scrap this dogshit idea surrounding content set only post clone wars/original trilogy. The constant need to bank on nostalgia is making the world feel extremely small.
Mando S1 was regarded well due to the fact it came out during the Rise of Skywalker. Star Wars by that time was already struggling bad so it was a breath of fresh air. Season 2 got bogged down with nostalgia baiting and season 3 was abysmally stupid
Book of boba fett was good for one episode but otherwise moronic
Obiwan was a fricking travesty and shouldn’t be recognised
Bad batch was good purely because it seems it had very little in the way of corporate interference, but only when the episodes were centred around the clones and the empire. Otherwise the omega storyline and the trandoshan are insufferable and make it downright unwatchable at times
Andor was an absolute 180. After book of boba fett and obi wan, it was refreshing to have a grounded version of Star Wars and have imperials be competent. The ISB is far more competent than grand admiral thrawn. Seeing the small acts of rebellion that build to something bigger is really good to watch. You don’t have to like it. But it doesn’t rely on nostalgia bait too heavily nor fan service. Unfortunately it was not going to be enough to repair the brand image
Ashoka is pure fan service, and a child’s adaptation of heir to the empire. I didn’t need to watch it because every episode was effectively spoiled on x for me. But Thrawn is a fricking moron. Sabine is somehow immune to death, Luke is nowhere to be seen, Ezra is a bad plot device and less of a character. The only interesting ideas this show had was baylan and shin. Even then they have zero conclusion.
Disney Star Wars is a travesty because they desperately want their sequels to work. But they’re post weaving the story to make sense, and nobody cares at this point.
Baylan and Shin aren't I interesting characters, Niatoos.
>What if the Mofugghin' BAD GUY was doing BAD THINGS but for LE gREATER GOOD
homosexual. Your channel sucks. Tony Gilroy should have complete control over star wars
I never said they were interesting characters. I said they were an interesting idea that ultimately went nowhere you illiterate ESL subhuman
The Andor show could've used a few more aliens and droids to be kino 10/10
in fact star wars shit only truly shines when you get more aliens droids and weirdos rather than humans.
I haven't watched a single episode and have just heard about random parts of Ashoka and how they are using it to probably make a movie set between 6 and 7. What the frick has even happened (if anything)? Apparently Thrawn came back and loaded cargo for 4 episodes?
>watching Star Wars after last decade
ISHYGDDT
Notice how every single one of the shows you listed threw in a Skywalker to boost ratings. They lack all substance and rely solely on memberberries.
Real kino is still inbound
Andor and obiwan were my favs
Early Mando is up there too
Then asoka little behind then big gap to Mando later seasons and bobafett
I like Star Wars as an ongoing franchise like this. I think it works better this way than a film trilogy every 10 years.
Correct answer is
Andor > Mando S1 > Ahsoka > Mando S2/3 > Boba > Obi
Mando one is really nice, it just drops off. Also parts of the first few eps of Boba could have been turned into a decent 90 minute film. Nothing redeeming at all in Obi
Swap obi and boba and I'd agree.
No can do. I think there are parts of early boba that are legitimately great, can't say that about a single thing in Obi
Kenobi is over hated. It's just paced horribly with a shirt budget. All the ingredients for kino are there but falls flat because of that
pacing can't help a shit story, it was absolutely pointless. you are right on the budget though, it was weird to me that it was the cheapest starwars show
>it was weird to me that it was the cheapest starwars show
It's because it was always planned to be a film and then stretched out. Same reason why the pacing was fricked
Is Ahsoka actually better than Mando S1 or is actually slop?
Depends what you are into
I hate Ahsoka, didn't finish Clone Wars, never got into rebels and think Cameos ruined Mando.
Is there ANY chance I could enjoy Ahsoka? Is it an actually well written story that draws in people naturally or is it a story that only people that like Ahsoka and Filoni to begin with will enjoy?
Probably the latter but there is some strong character growth in there
It’s worse than Clone Wars and Rebels, which are already pretty bad and difficult to sit through. The entire thing is filled with a few brief moments of kino from Stevenson and Mikkelson.
>Depends what you are into
no it doesn't. assoka is objectively mid.
It's pulpier but feels more like the OT in that way.
>Is Ahsoka actually better than Mando S1
No. Not even close.
I've finished the Mandalorian and now at the last credit scene they're rolling over the concept art for each episode's peak in the story.
They're so amazing, why don't they make visual novels with those? Audio effects + prose on top of those, they ought to be cheaper.
andor
Andor >>>>>>>>>>> Pile of Shit>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>
>>>>>>>Obi-wan >>> Boba Fett
>Genuinely competent
Andor
>Decent
Rogue One
Bad Batch
Tales of the Jedi
Rebels
>Slop
Mandalorian S1
Mandalorian S2
Book of Boba Fett
Ahsoka
>Insulting
The Force Awakens
The Last Jedi
Rise of Skywalker
Obi-Wan Kenobi
Mandalorian S3
>Kino
New Hope
Empire
Kotor 1 and 2
Jedi Outcast
I jedi
Heir to the Empire
Lost Stars
>Great
Republic Commando
OG Battlefront 1 and 2
Jedi Academy
X-Wing novels
X-wing games
Clone Wars (tartakovsky)
New Jedi Order Series
SW Galaxies
Rogue Squadron games
>Good
Revenge of the Sith
Mando s1
Darth Bane
Rogue One
Andor
Galactic Battlegrounds
>Flawed but fun
Phantom Menace
AOTC
Junior/young Jedi Knights
New Battlefront
The Clone Wars (2008)
Solo
>Sub par
Mando s2
Obi Wan
Rebels
Bad Batch
>Bad
TFA
Book boba
Mando S3
Ahsoka
Rise of Skywalker
>Violent Diarrhea
TLJ
cringe
gay
that's you and your obvious reddit friends
wait... if Alderaan blew up, what is Leia queen of??
An asteroid field
Coke
a crack den, shat pants, and a cheap casket
What’s so good about Andor? It looks fricking awful.
Trannies have tried to meme it up as “the good one” but it’s literally the same exact thing as she hulk or mandor or whatever other feces puke slop israelitesney queeves out.
People talk a lot in eloquent way and it's not outright moronic like the rest of the live action shows. But it's still boring as frick, pointless and overrated.
It’s made by Disney. These “people” are literal pedophiles who hate you, hate Star Wars, want you dead and are actively involved in state legislation to legally define male children as women so they can be castrated and put in a dress. Zero difference or distinction between any given MCU movie, trandor, fricking Willow, Artemis Fowl or anything else, all the same exact 1:1 cancergarbage.
>It looks fricking awful.
Based on what?
It treats the characters with intelligence, has excellent production design, and a very strong cast. It has an actual identity and mission beyond merely continuing Star Wars as a brand. It has flaws and it's easy to overrate it because Star Wars has been shit for over 20 years, but it's good.
Nothing, it's just edgy cynical agitprop for self-proclaimed intellectuals.
It's thoroughly decent and has a competent plot.
Andor is the baseline for an acceptable Star Wars show, but homosexuals have their standards either too low and will eat all the slop or too high, where they're happy with nothing.
This anon
more or less has it right. It's the kind of show a redditor wearing a fedora and trenchcoat would quote to defend communism and atheism. It's nothing like Star Wars and frankly brings nothing to the table except a really strong performance by Andy Serkis.