>https://variety.com/2023/film/news/brave-and-the-bold-andy-muschietti-directing-batman-film-the-flash-1235646262/
The SECOND they announced Tom King as one of the main writers of this universe I KNEW THIS WOULD BE FRICKING DEAD SINCE THE BEGINNING.
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I don't hold The Flash against him. That movie was doomed to begin with and he was probably just director in name only. His IT movies were good too.
OH NO NO NO NO NO
>His IT movies were good too
Part 2 was awful and Part 1 was really overrated
>Part 2 was awful and Part 1 was really overrated
Nah, frick off.
He's right, Part 2 is just a shitty comedy and Part 1 doesn't reach it's full potential (and also has stupid shit like the children literally floating in midair instead of in sewer water like the book implied)
Part 2's issues lies on the script being extremely mediocre, how WB apparently forced the extra scenes for the kids even though they had grown up AND the forced deal to go COMPLETELY ON CANON WITH THE DEATHS (even though Stan's death is still damn moronic + Eds dying in the cave instead of outside, to give Richie and the others some sort of closure, or hell, they could have made it a surprise deal and make Richie die saving Eds instead, but nooooooo)
But no, Part 1 was damn good, even if they could have gone with some of the more fricked up parts from Bowers' group of morons.
The adult part will always be awful because it is like so on the book, a bunch of people on their 40s VS a scary clown never worked it was also trash on the 80s adaptation, I dunno why they keep trying
Kids VS It is the only good part of that plot
He didn't say that in my june 15th screening, he said he was too proud to thank anyone
I guess... it's sad that there are people who are so idiotic they can't see the flaws in this?
There are a lot of billionaires who have tried to solve poverty, not to mention governments with access to trillions of dollars. They have failed. The thing that has lifted people out of poverty is global capitalism.
IT part 1 is only "good" because it ripped off Stranger Things season 1
I just saw the movie it's fantastic
IT movies are fricking trash.
It's over
I'm calling it, Smallville will be the only good live action Superman adaptation of the 21st century.
God damn that is a BAD sign.
Unless Gunn takes his advice for Superman and just uses it for the Authority or some shit.
Here are the "think tank" James Gunn assembled to create the new DC universe, dubbed as the "Gunnverse".
King is a goddamn idiot, we all know that at this point. Pretentious and meaningless, with only suberversion on his mind.
The frick even are these credits? I haven't heard of any of that. I mean I don't pay attention to TV, so for all I know they're huge things. But I would think I would have HEARD of them.
Damn it
Oh No!
Gay son coming
Tom Taylor was the gay Jon Kent writer, not Tom King. Tom King is the one who turned Batman and Adam Strange into cuckolds.
I give up
Guess it's time for suicidal tendencies and deconstructions.
Up In The Sky was good
What does this even mean anymore? Who is playing Batman?
(You) are playing Batman. now put the costume on.
Possible actors in the running for Batman?
They're getting another actor? Frick this, just let Batman rest for a decade.
Bradley Cooper.
Pennywise the dancing clown
>"Father are you an eldritch demon that preys on children?"
>"FaTHer are YOU an eLDTRICH demon that PRRRREYS on CHilDren? ...Noooooooo...but put this outfit on first before you jump off this ledge, Georgie."
>"Damian."
>"See that's why I just call them all Robin."
some one with a bad shape and that does not have a square jaw and that is the most important the actor cannot in any way do his stunts and cannot know any martial art
It’s his time…
>damian
it was shit before it even started
Two Batman franchises at one time?
Isn't this going to cause brand oversaturation and confusion?
They keep delaying The Penguin show and The Batman 2 sequel. I think Gunn is doing everything to cancel those projects.
Nah, no way these projects will be cancelled. The Batman was the biggest success they had since Joker while being very well received, and Gunn is a guy who respects creators. He will let Reeves alone
>and Gunn is a guy who respects creators
Kek.
Straight up had more respect and love for the IPs and the creators he referenced in his movies than 80% of the movie directors we've had doing Marvel or DC movies.
And from that 20% of directors that actually did have respect for the genre, only 10% managed to nail a unique theme while still managing to adapt a comic book story into a movie.
He completely butchers the characters he adapts and turn them into absolute jokes. His movies always shit on the concept of the comics for being too goofy. Peacemaker for example was some subversion about muscled characters like Rambo being dumb and gay for being too macho and jingoist.
Ok, look, pal, I understand you're mad that some of the writing for these characters don't line up with your fanfic-I mean, with your view of that character, but there's not a lot you can do in these cases, especially if the one reason they're adapted that way is because they weren't really popular until much, MUCH later by better writers.
And James Gunn's take on these characters are nothing like the initial writers or the later writers. That's why Gunn likes to adapt smaller properties that are not well known, because he can twist and subvert them any way he wants.
Battinson and Joker will be labeled as elseworlds, the shared universe actors will be on movies clearly labeled DCU
Joker was always utterly incompatible with anything DC.
It would be fascinating if they could pull a trick and reveal that the Battinson films are the origin of the DCU Batman. I doubt they can do that, but it'd be neat.
The Battinson films are too, incompatible with that concept, it's grounded as hell, even more so than Nolan, meta humans and aliens like Gunn wants to do wouldn't work on it
>t's grounded as hell, even more so than Nolan
Cmon, man. The movie was filled with cringe shit and Pattinson Bats was like some Deadpool character surviving ludicrous shit.
Yes that's why it would be a prequel. Before that stuff rolls in.
And come on man, superhero universe 101. Some shit just doesn't show up so you can create certain tones and atmospheres.
Nope. Why would it? Those Embargoes on Characters do nothing but piss people off.
>Why would it?
Why wouldn't it dumbass? Normies will be confused.
>Those Embargoes on Characters do nothing but piss people off.
It's called basic brand maintenance. Same reason there aren't multiple different James Bond movies at one time.
Look how Superman went off the rails after they stopped giving a frick in 2013
Yet they will have several different Jokers bopping around more or less simultaneously.
Never at one time until Pattinson Batman had a Joker
As long as they don’t bring back Christina Hodson then I am okay.
Dude, she is one of James Gunn's architects.
WHY?
Uuuuuuuuuhhhh...
https://www.cbr.com/flash-writer-christina-hodson-batman-brave-and-the-bold/
TOP KEK.
Honestly, I don't know if I can trust Gunn anymore after this. There's something really off. I'm starting to believe what he said about his Superman movie is even a lie.
Everything he says he wants to do with Clark fits. But then he talks to King and wants to involve the Authority and shit like that. There are two forces not meeting here.
I wonder if he's got some fricked up gut instinct here that's fighting with the clear need for a basics Superman free from Snyder shit.
I lost my trust when he decided to dump everything that he wasn't involved in.
>I don't know if I can trust Gunn anymore after this.
are you kidding? look at the gamora costumes at the mcu and comics, gunn changed everything about her left only the green skin and the name he took the sword and the fighting ability from gamora was for the actress who played gamora to be a young cynthia rothrock it would be epic to see her fighting like cynthia rothrock in capeshit style but gunn has no talent to do that and has taken everything away so this batman universe is going to suck
>letting the person who wrote Birds of Prey and the Fantabulous Emancipation of One Harley Quinn in charge of Batman (the same movie that ruined Cassandra Cain)
>letting the person who wrote a Batgirl movie so bad that they had to write it off
>letting the person who wrote The Flash, the movie being panned by everyone
Is James Gun legit insane?
>The Flash is written by the same person as BoP
That explains everything. How did I not realize this sooner? It's the exact same messily-written shit with the exact same cringeworthy humor.
He’s just pozzed
>announced to direct the weekend his movie is about to bomb
WB stocks are basically tissue paper at this point.
Now writer of BATMAN: THE BRAVE AND THE BOLD.
None of this is good either. Bumblebee was fine, but it was half ET, half Iron Giant. Nothing ground breaking or uniquely Transformers about it. The rest is trash. Jeez.
Makes me wonder if Warner just can't find good writers after years of only approving shit.
By far easily the most competent screen-writer of the bunch, though he is a JJ Abrams' butt-boy.
Naw Goddard's fine. He seems like the only Whedon guy to learn lessons from that era and move on. Plus he let Daredevil feel like a comic book hero, which is goddamn rare.
Yeah. Goddard is the only promising name there.
This guys is all over the place writing wise, but it is mostly shit.
Honestly he seems like a guy who might have the talent, but he's pulled around by producers. Maybe. Hopefully.
That's it. Other than James Gunn. These are the guys responsible for creating and mapping out all the future DC live action and animated movies and shows.
And they all sound bad except for Goddard.
There is no "future".
Five flopped movies in a row. A company 40 billion in the hole and bleeding cash badly. All of these movies were almost completely paid for by AT&T and bought for the 40 billion. Where do they get the money to make new tentpole cape flicks? What tight-assed bank is going to lend them the money? Who would invest in it?
They aren't filming anything new, they are just announcing, "casting" and doing script treatments. They are trying to spoof a potential FAANG buyer into believing they still have big IP value, and that's it.
>There is no "future".
>Five flopped movies in a row
That didn't stop Ironman from defying all odds and birthing the MCU, Superman Legacy will do the same for the DCU
Those are 2 totally different situations.
Iron Man did solidly right off, and then the whole enterprise was bought by a much larger company than Discovery.
Under AT&T they could afford flops, til the shareholders got tired of the drag on the telecommunications business.
Netflix, Amazon, these players can afford to burn money.
Zaslav has no monies. He sunk his company deep in debt to buy the WB library and finished movies. He's failing to monetize the library and the movies he bought have all been turds.
Now he just has a frickload of debt. They don't have 200 million to make a Superman movie, and no one is going to line up to throw money in their burning dumpster.
There definitely gonna be sold.
Maybe you should wait and see how Flash does first, WB? Just saying.
The billions from the Flash movie are what's going to fund the Gunn-verse.
What if the movie foesn't make a billion?
It will easily make 3 billion rupees.
How optimistic. Perhaps unnecessarily, but still.
The Gunnverse is being made whether the Flash flops on not, They just announced that The Flash director will be directing the new Batman DCU movie
All they are doing is talking shit. They aren't actually MAKING anything atm.
They are releasing the films they bought from ATT and none of them are generating the profit to pay for the Gunn-verse.
>All they are doing is talking shit. They aren't actually MAKING anything atm.
they literally are? They will probably announce the next Superman actor at Comic Con and Superman begins filming next year, Creature Commandos is currently in production, Brave and the Bold has a director and writer already.
>haven't even cast Superman
>Another cheap-ass cartoon show
>A writer and director choice equals actual work on a film
They are working on jack shit, they are just throwing some names about and threatening to make movies, for which they have no money.
It turns out Discovery buying WB is like a homeless guy living out of a van buying some racehorses.
WB is clueless.
Pajeeti is the one who made the Flash movie passable. Had it been directed by Whedon, Snyder or Gunn, the movie would have been unwatchable.
they always manage to pick the worst directors for Batman and I'm waiting for the John Wick director
>The SECOND they announced Tom King
There will be many more gays in this new DCU than in the MCU lol, now I understand why they didn't say anything about Wonder Woman, Powegirl or any other DC heroine, actresses or characterization they are more concerned with couching couch with the actors I think there are directors and producers who can't even sit
Frickin' hell, it's official... they actually did it...
“We saw The Flash even before taking the reins at DC Studios, and knew we were in the hands of not only a VISIONARY (?!!!) director but a massive DC fan,” Gunn and Safran told the trade in a joint statement.
“It’s a MAGNIFICENT FILM (?????!!?!) – funny, emotional, thrilling – and Andy’s affinity and passion for these characters and this world just resonates through every frame.
So, when it came time to find a director for The Brave and the Bold, there was really ONLY ONE CHOICE (WHAT THE ACTUAL FRICK?!!!!!).
If it's anything like the Flash (which my gut tells me it will be), this will become officially the worst Batman film ever from a stylistic & visual POV. Dead on arrival, worst director, worst comic book mid writer/consultant, worst timeline. Andy Mousketeerietti hates Batman with passion & raped both Batfleck & Keaton with ease. Fear him!
Did you watch The Flash? The Batman segments were the best part
>inb4 muh WW lasso of truth scene
Plus with his work on It, he's probably one of the few people who can do Robin/Damien Wayne right.
>The Batman segments were the best part
Pure delusion. Nonsense. Rubbish.
ya mother
Well done anon well done
HOWEVER
What worries me the most is that Gunn announced that the Superman movie will showcase the Authority characters and a bunch of other DC characters, and the movie feels like it will be over-stuffed with set-ups for future shit.
The Authority presence in their plans just make me think that they will copy The Boys show and do weird gags/subversive takes.
Gunn is just making shit up. He stands in front of a marquee with 30 movies on it, working for a studio that couldn't afford the sfx to finish a fricking Batgirl movie. They had enough in their coffers to have Discount Pajeets make the horrendous effects in this Flash movie, now it's over.
Correct me if i am wrong, didn't they announce that they hired the guys that did the VFX work for the Snydercut as some sort of appeasement for the die-hard fanboys? When was this? Because i feel it was super late when that news came out.
The Snyder Cut was cheap rubbish, The Flash is cheap looking rubbish, so anything is possible.
The Flash's catastrophic failure dooms them.
Even then the VFX looked better in the Snydercut.
>Authority characters
>A bunch of other DC characters
>feels like it will be over-stuffed with set-ups for future shit
wait a fricking minute...
They really believed Ezra could pull NWH monies if they threw in enough Batmans and Supermans, the poor delusional bastards.
WB's making the same mistake Sony did.
Where's my into the Flash-verse movie with Kid Flash as the new Flash?
I expect the Authority cameos to be like Waller and Harcourt in Black Adam and regular movie goers will just assume they're background characters until they pop up in future films.
>I expect the Authority cameos to be like Waller and Harcourt in Black Adam
What was that even about?
They were just there, instead of using randos they decided to put in cameos to fill the roles of background characters. kind of like how bruce campbell appears in spiderman movies, no real reason just fun cameos that if you know you know if you don't you just assume they're extras.
Yeah, but why even set up a JSA movie that is not going to happen?
I guess because Black Adam has no real crew unlike Supes or Batman and since his most well known stories are with the JSA the Rock said ''use this JSA guys''.
Yeah, but Shazam 2, that was produced by Safran, also had the weird set up for JSA that is now meaningless.
Shazam 2 was also delayed a ton, Shazam is typically associated with the JSA so it was just a fun nod.
There was nothing fun about Shazam 2.
Which was poorly done because Dwayne veto'd any of his characters appearing on the movie.
Which again, what the frick was that about? The Rock wanted nothing to do with the Shazam movies and Gunn wasn't going to play ball with The Rock.
Desperation on WBD's part and unbridled ego on Teh Rock's.
>Which again, what the frick was that about?
>The Rock
ding ding ding
The Rock wanted to take control of the DCEU and make it revolve around him and Cavill Superman. There's way too much drama to cover but he also kind of hates Levi.
Dwayne doesn't want to get relegated to "bit player in Vin's car series".
Did Gunn considered doing something with Shazam at some point?
Levi seemed to think so, but who knows. He was defending Gunn's wife on social media pretty hard.
I think he's open to the idea but i don't think he's getting a third movie, best he'll get is supporting roles in DCU movies if they decide to even use Shazam at all.
>Third movie with Sivana and Mr. Mind never
Well that tweet amounts to nothing.
>but i don't think he's getting a third movie
It underperformed Morbius.
MORBIUS!
A ton of people unironically watched it in hopes of a Spiderman cameo, plus people also meme watched it BEFORE Sony rereleased it.
Shazam 2 also had a trailer that was super boring, even compared to Morbius's trailer
it was made before WB was sold and Gunn took over, the JSA probably had a role under old leadership
But Harcourt and Waller have parts in the DCU. Both will be in Waller and Peacemaker S2.
Now all that's left is to announce Victoria Alonso as Wonder Woman's producer and a lgbt director
://variety.com/2023/film/news/brave-and-the-bold-andy-muschietti-directing-batman-film-the-flash-1235646262/
- Makes the Salo equivalent of the CBM genre
- Gets rewarded & praised for creating a monstrosity
- Completely fricks up Ben Affleck & Michael Keaton
- Has no vision & no clear visual direction
- Worst on screen costume choices for Batmen
- Brainwashed by the MCU machinery of quips
Is it the scorching sun in L.A., or is it getting crazier out there in Hollyweird?!
>Worst on screen costume choices for Batmen
Leather nipples tho
>Makes the Salo equivalent of the CBM genre
You have posted this many times and I still don't know what the frick means?
It will be a very tough sit & you got to find the right day, time, mood & vibe to watch this Italian piece of cinema by Pier Paolo Pasolini. It is not for everyone, it is a chore, nothing has prepared you for that sort of immersive experience. My only advice: watch it on an empty stomach. The funniest shit was ICE T daring folks online to WATCH & REVIEW SALO back in 2011 &... we are in the year of 2023 & THERE IS STILL NO REVIEW from ICE T...
What has this movie to do with Flash? Is there gore or weird porn on it? Weird from Spaghetti if he did.
Anon from Cinemaphile said it best & let's just leave it at that.
>Cinemaphile
I wish you guys would die
Anyone else think Andy Muschietti is kinda hot? No just me? ok
Calling it now. James Gunn will be fired again and gunverse will be scrapped after blue beetle.
What was the point of making a Blue Beetle movie?
>What was the point of making a Blue Beetle movie?
Too shill Latinx on Mexicans. No seriously. The director was even picking fights with Mexicans on twitter.
>The director was even picking fights with Mexicans on twitter.
I see where the primos crew learn that publicity tactic
Blue Beetle was originally an HBO Max project, simmilar to JLD, Zatanna, Plastic Man etc
it managed to survive due to the script apparently being so good WB gave them more money to make it into a theatrical release
>it managed to survive due to the script apparently being so good WB gave them more money to make it into a theatrical release
Top kek.
The truth is that it managed to survive because Peter Safran was the producer.
>JLD, Zatanna, Plastic Man
What happened with those?
Cancelled.
Hamada really thought he could make money with those projects. Can you imagine they had been made?
>was originally an HBO Max project, simmilar to JLD, Zatanna, Plastic Man etc
WB has a good track with horror and fantasy projects
Why don't they exploit that side of DC? Would be cool an I...Vampire movie.
>Why don't they exploit that side of DC?
because they stupidly gave the rights to JJ Abrams and he just fricking took the money and ran with absolutely Zero work on any of the JLD projects
JJ was the reason Constantine couldn't be used in Legends of Tomorrow anymore and why Sandman had to use Johanna.
Can't DC lawyers sue the hell out of Abrams?
>it managed to survive due to the script apparently being so good WB gave them more money to make it into a theatrical release
Yeah. But WB Test Screenings aren’t really to be trusted.
>But WB Test Screenings aren’t really to be trusted.
Aquaman will be kino and earn over a billion
If it's a Silver Age style, I'd actually wanna see Clooney give another crack at it.