Boyfriend Material

Anon if half the people who identify as an incel knew how to talk to people properly they'd stop being such a lonely sperg and might even get a decent girlfriend.

Anon ugly people have been having fulfilling lives for all of human history. You'd expect the ugly genes to be completely weeded out of the gene pool but no. If you know how to talk to people even an ugly person can form long lasting relationships.

I never said be yourself, I said you need to learn how to have proper social skill. You clearly don't fricking have those as you are now.

Because they're idiots speaking from a position of privilege who don't understand that borderline impossibility of such a fundamental personality change that they built over a lifetime being condensed into a 12 hour course or 300 page book, it's a literal "Let them eat cake" situation, and any time they say it all it does is push one more incel or femcel over the edge to go shoot someone.
Just fricking make state mandated dating legal already for frick sake, it's the only solution, literally just make the Lobster real and kill anyone who fails to get a girlfriend or boyfriend in six months, at least you'll be doing them a favor by killing them instead of waiting for them to do it themselves.

why do people act like everyone who has ever had sex is some super interesting likable amazing person. holy fricking shit dude.

Anon I'm asking a legit question, I want to know what kind of person you are, not saying "talk like a robot" because there's no one size fits all answer.

why do people act like everyone who has ever had sex is some super interesting likable amazing person. holy fricking shit dude.

I'm not pretending I am, but a key to talking to people is being able to have a modicum of confidence or passion that you actually can connect with the person on a minor level.

Sorry, I'm an /adv/ gay and the men on their are the only one's worse than women are on the rest of Cinemaphile, it's like they haven't moved past their 2014 PUA phase and grown up into their 2018 braincels phase.
HOWEVER.
>Do you have any real interests or passions?
This never works out, not even once, there's a reason clubs and bars have the highest number of women and men to date.
>Who do you try to talk to and how?
You realize most people don't actively speak to people they want to date or frick right?
>Where do you go?
See above, this literally never helps and can even backfire.
You're still bordering on "Just go outside and talk to people bro" territory.

>Just appeal to women's inherent sense of materialism bro!

Oh I get pussy, I'm just angry that humans are such a shallow disgusting species, and proof that God is either evil or doesn't exist.
We shouldn't have to have social value, or be attractive to have love, love shouldn't be earned, what kind of a seriously selfish evil species doesn't take care of it's own like us?

>Doesn't take a genius in math to figure out what that means.
And a hundred years ago, marriage was typically at 16 and often arranged. Also most people were dirt farmers and would rarely date outside their small village.

>Black person, what? Men are born uglier (and stronger) because only women had the evolutionary drive to be more attractive.
That's not how evolution works. It's literally the same species.
>This is false, genetics are a b***h for either sex.
What I mean by this is, on the whole femnoid and androgynous features have always been more attractive for the human race - for both genders.
Mesomorphs and Ectomorphs >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Endomorph
As it happens most woman happen to the former so have an advantage. Men get pumped with testosterone like bad alcohol poisoning on Jersey springbreak, so they end up hulking out in a way very few woman have to experience. If Woman get their bodies blown up at all, they'll end up curvy with wide hips and geometrically more attractive to greater numbers of people than someone turned into Lou freakin Ferrigno.

>marriage was typically at 16 and often arranged.
And much like how even modern communists and fascists can agree, we can see now in retrospect that even feudalism was more human for humanity to live under than capitalism was.
What does that say about the modern dating market?

True, it's the equivalent of telling a person suffering from depression to just not be sad. They literally don't know how to do that, if they did they wouldn't have this problem.

That said staying inside and avoiding everyone isn't going to help, social skills are a skill, they need practice, but you don't immediately throw yourself into the major leagues. You start small. As someone who is currently trying to get over it a good place to start actually is to try talking to strangers more, it builds up your conversational skills in a low risk way because you're likely never going to see them again. I made a deal with myself to strike up a small conversation with the cashier everytime I go through a checkout counter. Not a big one, just a quick exchange beyond the interaction required to do his job. The topic doesn't matter, I just have to talk to them, I have literally talked about the weather several times because I couldn't think of anything else to say.

It felt awkward as frick at first but it has been getting easier and I've found myself feeling more comfortable striking up conversations with strangers in other contexts as well. For the next step I'm planning to move from random conversations on the street to a situation where the conversations can go on a little longer and I can actually get to know the other person a bit. I haven't had much luck with that so far, I'm trying to find some group that shares an interest of mine, that way I know I'll have something to talk about or some activity to engage in.

>Anon ugly people have been having fulfilling lives for all of human history. You'd expect the ugly genes to be completely weeded out of the gene pool
I'm going to stop you right there.
They have.
Pic related is what the average woman looked like in pre historic Greece.
Humans have been discriminating against ugly people for all their history. so why do ugly people exist you ask?
Because they aren't ugly, Chadflation (which applies to women but the recent collapse of patriarchal structure ensures they don't feel as many effects now) ensures that as people get more and more beautiful, previously acceptable looks get more and more "ugly."
Because we finally live in a post enlightenment society in the same way that women, blacks, and others have advocated for their rights, now so are ugly people.
And simply put this will not stop until we face out bigory and admit we treat ugly people worse, and in the same way that we try integrating blacks despite crime, women must be forced by law to date ugly men against their will, and visa versa.

To be honest those model heads are never very accurate. I already saw professional reconstruction of faces of murder victims and when they eventually identified them their faces looked vastly different from the reconstructions. Plus, it's delusional to think that peasants from 2000+ years ago wouldn't get any kids because they didn't find any partners due to ugliness. Do you really believe that the "ugly" majority didn't have sex back then? Most places forced to you have kids if you wanted to survive and have someone feeding you when you grow older. If anything the selection can only have started in recent times and for that to be the case I see way, waaaaay too many ugly as frick fat women and men with kids.

what point. they made it a point to make him unattractive.

Yeah probably. Guess that's the easy way. So much hassle comes with sexuality that I shouldn't complain that I am not interested in the first place. Even the people that have partners seem to have non-stop drama going on most of the time or they love each other but cannot be around each other every day.
That said though I feel like nowadays women are hard to even become buddies with. Those with kids are completely forgettable and lost but many younger ones (aka women younger than 30) tend to have serious mental issues or they are nice but way too loud and chaotic. I basically only get along with grandmas but they are no option if you want more than dialogues about history.

i've never had a female friend.

This whole "The reason I can't get a girlfriend is because I'm ugly" is such a stupid cope. Go down to the walmart in a rural area and you'll find some ugly SOBs who are somehow married.

who's to say those guys don't have good income, own a house, or a huge dick? yes women who can't be picky are going to want resources i get it. i don't think true love exists for anyone but attractive people personally. every other relationship is transactional.

>Most SIMPs are incels
Simps and incels are the same in that they're not getting laid. They differ in how they cope.

I think that people with issues generally tend to project their hate onto others that look like them (in this case others from the opposite gender). I know one fat guy that doesn't like fat women and seethes about everyone that is into Cinemaphile guys even if they are literally just anime characters. He never fricking tried to get fit himself either and will just call everybody that rejects him oppressive instead. Many fat women are like that too.
I have witnessed some female hiveminds that started attacking other female users for saying harmless shit like mentioning having male friends or a boyfriend and the rest snapped, bullied them till they left and called them "prostitutes". Really, google some female only boards out of interest, that shit is full of unironically misogynist women that consider every normal or chill woman a dirty prostitute that is stupid and brainwashed by men even if she never even talks about sex or romance. If you read between the lines it's obvious that it's femcels posting. People that are not only too fat but, more importantly, too mentally ill and aggressive to ever get a boyfriend or any friend.

You definitely have a choice beyond just giving up on life.

>go outside
>touch grass
>get hobbies
>volunteer
>talk to strangers in bars like its still the 90's like a weirdo
this is the only sort of advice these sorts of people have. they genuinely and wholly do not understand or comprehend how truly alone/less fortunate men live.

maybe if you're extremely young. like straight out of HS or college. chances are if you're nearing or older than 30 and still a virgin the type of women who are going to settle for you are probably not worth the effort or risk and are most likely single mothers, extremely mentally ill, or awful people looking to take advantage of a desperate man. if you're still young there's definitely still time i won't deny that. there's probably still some decent women out there at that point. the longer you wait the worse your options are gonna be though and at some point its not worth it.

Why aren't friends and hobbies not enough? What do you gain from a partnership? I am 35 now and never had the urge to get a partner and rejected the few that had interest. Freedom is much more important than sex which is the only thing partners provide that friends can not. Unless it's a friend with benefits, but most people are weird about that or happen to fall in love later which isn't what you want.

Yeah probably. Guess that's the easy way. So much hassle comes with sexuality that I shouldn't complain that I am not interested in the first place. Even the people that have partners seem to have non-stop drama going on most of the time or they love each other but cannot be around each other every day.
That said though I feel like nowadays women are hard to even become buddies with. Those with kids are completely forgettable and lost but many younger ones (aka women younger than 30) tend to have serious mental issues or they are nice but way too loud and chaotic. I basically only get along with grandmas but they are no option if you want more than dialogues about history.

>there's no scent on you marking the fact you're a spergy virgin
Literally everyone can tell. You can tell by the way they move. That's not to say non-virgins can't do hurried, jittery movements too, but it's a different, super subtle kind you can pick up on. Kind of like that one spiderman scene where he picks up the trays. Virgins can't do that.

24 is young if you are looking to buy a house. Not if you are still a virgin. Would you be okay with it? Feeling lesser than everybody else?

women absolutely fricking care you're nuts dude. even if she said she didn't care she absolutely judged you for that shit, and the older you get the bigger of a red flag it is.

>Had sex not once, which could have been 'the planets aligning' tier dumb luck, but twice
>Thinks he's broken
Anon, two girls consciously made the decision to frick you. That means they liked you a lot. That means you're likeable. It's my obligation to tell you to never give up because you're too harsh on yourself.

My man, the concept of a wizard is so alien to normoids that you might as well just not even exist. Normies kill themselves after not having sex for a few months, being a 30+ virgin is such a horrifying concept it's mythological.

You were in relationships and didn't frick?

>He lost his virginity
Imagine losing something to a girl

I knew nothing good was ever going to come of this thread, but sweet trucking lord

What place are you from? When I was 15 we were busy with games, re-enactment shit, alcohol and grilling at night on some hill, LARPing and playing outside not fricking and relationships. There was of course always the odd sexuals that had relationship drama with 15 but those were usually just two quirky people per class like how every class also has that one talented artists, the two talented math gays and girl with traditional foreign attires.

>cope
Is that not what you are doing? Telling random women on this shithole to rape little boys because your into shota? Lmfao

>I also have never drank, you're kind of just contradicting yourself.
Do you believe everybody is a degenerate that fricked random people because of a bit of alcohol because american purist tell you so? Most normal humans (not americans) drink beer when they grill or something. It's hard to even get drunk on that shit unless you swallows liters of it and don't eat much. And even when someone is drunk you usually barely notice it unless it's one of those morons that get all moody. But even they don't randomly frick anybody, they wouldn't even have that control. Chances are high that must drunk tards will just fall asleep on the chair or take the wrong train.

>This is why I tell every single woman on Cinemaphile to become a shotacon and "rape" children for the sake of their mental development.
Black person what? I thought you were going with the “just focus on yourself and don’t stress about social norms” or some shit, but really?

>I had to lose mine at 19 and the mental trauma it took on me has never passed.
Kek, most people told my that their first times were but nobody called it trauma so far.

Why are you such affected by peer pressure that doesn't even exist outside of your head? I never once even thought about what other shitters do. I don't even desire most of the shit others want. Do you see your whole life as gay competition with numbers from some tabloid statistics? Do you also only want to marry because statistically most people do it at least once? Why? Don't you have any own thoughts? Do you never dislike something everybody else strives for?

I genuinely don't get it. You are very easy to manipulate. I don't know anybody that cared about shit like that or cares now if they are single for 10 years. But whatever, your choice.
Good luck living the life of someone else instead of developing a personality. American collectivism I guess.

>if I don't do what others want me to do I am a manchild
You are literally fricking brainwashed. Serious question were your parents fundamentalists? And no I am working, I casually enjoy non-fiction books, history shit, comics, anime, games like most other people but I didn't base my personality around it and nobody that isn't a close friend even knows what I am doing in my free time.

The other anon

Constantly worrying about what random strangers might think of you is some b***h homie shit.
You unironically have the mentality of your standard average basic b***h woman, and I mean this in the most sexist way possible.
No wonder women want nothing to do with you, you're one step removed from being a troony as it is.

was right. You unironically sound like those women that b***h and whine because they claim to be forced to be skinny and porn tier sexy because advertisements are "telling" so instead of not giving a shit about ads like men do.

Constantly worrying about what random strangers might think of you is some b***h homie shit.
You unironically have the mentality of your standard average basic b***h woman, and I mean this in the most sexist way possible.
No wonder women want nothing to do with you, you're one step removed from being a troony as it is.

Cope and seethe, switchcel. I'll be enjoying myself and my free online and virtual console games

I started puberty at 11 and most girls did too, I remember a bit having their periods by then.
Like I said these are problems only possible in the modern American hellscape, it might be easy to ignore all of them when you're 30 and no longer invested, but rest assured that every time someone said "The west is falling" it wasn't shitposting, the west is unironically falling and in 40 years we will be in anarchy or open fascism.

you are fricking delusional as shit. also wanting a woman to not be a shameless obese prostitute being an unrealistic standard just shows how rotten and beyond saving modern society is. women are so entitled it is unbelievable. they can do no wrong.

i don't actually believe you know any older truly alone virgin men. you're talking about teenagers and people in their early twenties with lofty unrealistic ideals. then a lof of these men get shit on by life and chill the frick out. the women stay entitled and wait for their prince charming and more often than not get pumped and dumped by him.

Why is it even so expensive there? Rent is high in my country because we're overpopulated and people appear faster than the cities can build, but Canada is 90% just nothing. I always thought rent would be cheap as shit there not 1000 EUR+ for a micro apartment like here.

canada is a shithole that's why.

that much is obvious. someone has explained it before but women in all their amazing vast knowledge somehow thought the top 10% of men in this world is how ALL men live. so in their mind men have ALWAYS had it as easy as these extremely privileged and fortunate few men. when in reality the average woman has always had it easier than the average dude. who is extremely disposable and largely ignored.

all women have inherent value naturally and men have to prove their value with resources and income if they don't have the good looks. now women want the men with the looks and the resources/income. literally can't win, its why the more appealing option for most men is to drop out of a rigged game.

As we all know women choosing hasn't fricked us all

The fact that "nice guy" is your interpretation of that sentence says more about you than it does me.

even if i could magically conjure up an amazing award winning glowing personality after a lifetime of being ostracized that wouldn't fixed my jacked up face.

Ugly people frick, I've seen it. There is no shortage of TikTok videos of the most downright disgusting couples you will ever see fawning over each other. If you had a decent personality your fricked up face could be overlooked.

If you wouldn't frick someone of percieved equal or lower status how can you possibly expect someone higher on the totem pole to come down into mud with you. Don't be hypocritical.

Don't kid yourself, there's always lower

stay lonely bro, you're hurting yourself not anyone else

millennials and zoomers are either all single or in fricked up weird polycules/open relationships. its like we went too far in the opposite direction.

Sure, I agree. Doesn't change what I said.

Nah guys basically have a pretty specific ideal too with a minor spectrum then the rest are outliers.

Holy frick you are goddamn sickening
You are living in a fantasy land detached from reality. I hope someday you realize how embarrassingly moronic you truly are, if only so that you commit suicide from the shame.

it's just women and dudebros that literally do not know what it's like to live without people around you constantly showing interest in you, they legitimately think that's just what everyone experiences because they're moronic

She's putting the vibe out there, y'know

>they were parts of hunting groups for a few times in history
Yeah. Exactly. Only a few times, while evolution works over a long period of time.
Unless entire generations decide to only breed with strong, bulky women, there is absolutely no evolutionary incentive for women to be strong and bulky.
The opposite is true for men, if they weren't strong and bulky, they'd lose their mate to another stronger male.
>Women certainly have been violently beaten to stop being ugly though
Do you have any source for that claim you just pulled out of your ass?
EVERY women, no matter how ugly, had inherent value to men because they could give them offspring.
>The sad truth is humans are inherently discriminatory, racist, sexist, homophobic, tribalistic monsters
...what the frick? I didn't realize I was speaking with a cult member, my bad.

>Literally all ancient archeological finds show women as being far more masculine, and "uglier" than modern women.
You do realize that this proves my point, right?
Didn't read anything after that, because holy shit learn how to space out your walls of text.

Your claim: "Women certainly have been violently beaten to stop being ugly"
Your proof: "Literally all ancient archeological finds show women as being far more masculine, and "uglier" than modern women."
Please explain how women becoming more beautiful over time proves that they were violently beaten to stop being ugly (as opposed to just having less offspring, for example).

>enters a thread full of autists
>gets mad at the autists being autistic
lol
lmao

>mentalcels
Black person, most of the people on this site are autistic.
It's a common mental disorder. Get over it.

I don't know if I can get in trouble for posting this but the jannoids still haven't taken down this flagrant bait thread either so frick them.

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It's mostly gay porn bee tee dubs.
Mostly
Jannies will NEVER do their job properly.

Ah yes, everyone knows Einstein was touted for being able to score with all the ladies. Thank god in society no breeds with morons like Chad from every dating show ever.
>Healthier (for women) usually means more beautiful.
Which, shocker, means more like a babyfaced twink.
Straight woman don't want hideous hulk-hands. Gays and Dykes don't really prefer them either and I don't know any man whose ideal woman is a hairy bara-lady.

As it turns out, men end up looking like that more often because that's how basic testosterone works scrub.

>Take a moron for example. None of them are beautiful, each and every one of them is ugly.
You must be the most hideous motherfricker on the planet then going by genius way you post.

Whose the most attractive person ever to you?
You sound like you're projecting anon.

90s' kid's life in a nutshell.
Though I guess being social media addicted with 12 is worse than being born in the late 80s or the 90s and ending up as a game nerd or IT hiki.

also i still have to pay rent just not like 2000+ a month i would be paying in a big city as a leaf.

Same reason, everyone wants to crowd around major urban hubs. It's cheaper to live further away but then there's usually nothing out there.

you don't. this is common knowledge. you're supposed to have a family.

I think it's possible to find other loners with hobbies like you in a city but my problem is that I somehow cannot get really close to anybody anymore the way I did when I was a kid. I don't know whether that's just me and if I have lost that ability or if adults are just generally so distances that they cannot form genuine bonds anymore.
I at least managed to have a week-long trip with a friend in Italy now without any issues, so maybe it's a step up at least. But it's really hard to find people and get close to them past a certain age. Most don't even want to socialize much anymore. It's not our generation, most old people I know are inherently lonely so it's seems to be a general issue.

>social morons on Cinemaphile
Wow, it's almost as if the internet isn't a 1:1 copy of real life!
The entirety of /LULZ/ is nothing but a place to vent about loneliness.
I'd even dare to wager that if the most hostile piece of shit on there would meet someone they like, they'd immediately drop the /LULZ/-angst personality.
You're trying to understand caricatures and then when people not on vent-mode try to talk about their disabilities, you apply your moronic logic on actual people.
It doesn't work. You're moronic (or at least on the spectrum). The end.