I love it, Moore at his meanest, great villain and henchman, gorgeous sets and locations, underrated Bond girls, underrated theme song, one of my top 3
Eh, if I want maximum Moore, I'm sticking with TSWLM. IF I want more subdued Moore FEYO is good.
TMWTGG isn't really either. Feels too much like a Connery movie with Moore in it.
This plus he can smuggle it because it is built from everyday articles like a cigarette case.
Plus im the movie of course it's symbolic because he steals the solar aggregates.
I like Moore as an icon, or comedian, but Connery has a seamless quality that merges obligation with high-fashion in a very ironic and interesting way, it's something that was missing from Daniel Craig's scripts.
he was good in layer cake, i hope he doesn't lie about his sexuality. james bond though? same as james brolin and lambert wilson, glad that never happened and henry cavill got the job.
To describe an early Bond film, it really is like watching an actor play a character and his alter ego all at once within the same scene. I think Shane Black approximated this with the character Gay Perry in Kiss Kiss Bang Bang.
The only actor to ACTUALLY play James Bond is Dalton. The rest are just themselves but called James Bond. That's it. That's who the new one will be, Aaron Taylor Johnson. Forget about what you think of James Bond, he might as well be a codename because none of the actors ever played the character of James Bond, just used the name and the occupation. Dalton did, though. I suggest you read the novels, they're great stuff.
I had a friend who read some of the early novels. In contrast I wanted to read the alternate script for Tomorrow Never Dies. Goldeneye was of course about the fall of the USSR, and the follow-up was going to be about the British Empire leaving Hong Kong, so there was going to be some conceptual symmetry between entries. It's funny to consider how cohesive the Brosnan movies could've been, since they ended up doing those really goofy plots, like the one post 9/11 entry is about some North Korean igloo?
i suggest you read the original script for goldeneye which was expressly written for dalton. so many more interesting moments, action, characters than the actual movie and more in line with LTK which was the best Bond movie of all time. Brosnan is a great cinematic Bond but his entire era is rife with missed opportunities >Alec is just a bank robber at the end of it, no personal revenge against James or MI6 >Monica belluci and lucy Liu as the Bond girls in TND >the original plot which would have been way more exciting than whatever the frick the movie was about >Anthony Hopkins as M (M is not a woman, Bond taking orders from a woman is ridiculous) >Neve Campbell (i read it in a magazine) as Christmas Jones instead of Richards >Charlize Theron in DAD with Halle Berry >Nightfire and EoN not being movies but games
and also >keeping Alec alive as a rival character to Bond instead of wasting such an interesting character as a one-off >wasting Renard and not leaning into the Tracy angle with Elektra >Gustav Graves as an entire character >not keeping Caroline Bliss as Moneypenny
Funnily enough, I heard that Hopkins was offered the role of Alec (who was originally going to be Bond's mentor rather than his peer) but turned it down. https://youtu.be/Uh7Iy-4FB30?si=S-deleJI4SrnryE_
North Korea is an obvious enemy but even then with all James Bond plots it's a rogue element or secret society so as not to alienate anyone too much. Making a James Bond plot that would involve a story element with some group or country that America or Britain was actively fighting a war with would be a bit too close to home to be comfortable with a broad audience that the series wants.
What do you think Bond 26 will do now that a new cold war is upon us?
3 months ago
Anonymous
they try to avoid modern-day politics as far as they can, because in its core it's a luxury-brands-showcase franchise disguised as a male power fantasy
that's why the villain is a rogue general or a gangster from connected with an unmentioned country
the closest they've been to modern day politics was the TLD pseudo-Iran-Contra plot
3 months ago
Anonymous
i'm fine with that, it's how the franchise operates and it keeps them from being extremely dated like that TLD plot. i'd love to see a rogue organization like Syndicate from MI or a malevolent AI that controls technology making Bond resort to old school spy tactics.
Living Daylights is a legendary action film, the sequel is much more novelistic and it would've been great to see that continue. It's terrific on suspense and intrigue as well.
rewatch Man With the Golden Gun, Moore is a complete butthole
you never saw The Saint pushing little kids off boats or threatening to shoot a man's penis off
Ironically, the israelite Saltzman leaving completely ruined the basedness and chauvinism after this movie. Bond got soft and never was based like Connery and early Moore.
Licence to Kill might as well be a murder revenge rampage movie. It's a lot more violent than the rest of them and it's great.
It is one and it works because Dalton is the most accurate James Bond and in the novels he cares a lot about Felix and values him as a friend someone the two other Bonds didn't give two shits about.
Moore in his first two was great. I couldn't bear him in the others. He went too soft and lost all that edge he had. I loved his characterization in this movie. English gentleman who's also a complete maverick and doesn't care he got a girl killed just to get to Scaramanga.
Moore slaps or flat out punches a woman in almost every single one of his films. There's also a few where he pulls a woman's hair as hard as he possibly can. Moore as Bond was as physical as Mitchum
Roger Moore was the best and most enjoyable James Bond. He didn't do 7 movies into his 50's for no reason. The patrician choice is Moore. His love for life is infectious.
I never understood why this was so disliked. It's a bit "budget" compared to most Bonds but Moore and Lee are awesome and it has a great sense of humor.
>HE HAS A POWERFUL WEAPONJ >HE CHARGES A MILLION A SHOT >AN ASSASSIN SECOND TO NONE >THE MAN WITH THE GOLDEN GUN
You're a homosexual if you don't find that catchy as frick. The Madonna song was also catchy. If you think they're worse than Adele, Sam Smtih and Billie Eilish kys.
I thought we established that DAD was the last movie so I didn't count them.
also, i apologize for telling you to harm yourself. this place is having an ill effect on me as i stray on to other threads other than Bond which is why i even bother with this site.
NTA but I don't mind Skyfall and No Time To Die's themes, horrible films mind you. I'm not sure why they're so widely hated here, Spectre's theme is one of the worst things I have ever heard though
I don't even remember No Time to Die. I personally dislike Skyfall because that shit was all over the radio for like half a year.
Then again, my personal favorite theme is Thunderball so I have dubious tastes to begin with.
Is it? I've never seen people talk about it, even in these threads.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Because it's a given that it's a great theme but you're right, most of Cinemaphile is Dalton or Brosnan so you get Moore and Connery underrated a bit but Tom Jones made an absolute belter. It was the right call to go with him over Shirley Bassey. Thunderball filters people because it's a slow burn spy piece that soaks in the locations and plot.
for Moore, i prefer the spy who loved me or moonraker, because wonderful sub base battle and wonderful space battle
My favorite bond movies rabked
1)You only live twice, connery and volcanoes and ninjas
2)On Her Majestys secret service Lazenby (probably the best overall 'real' film in the bond series because of the ending)
3)The spy who loved me. For me the hottest bond girl and great end battle
4)Moonraker, space battle with stirring music. Let us die a glorious death.
>The spy who loved me
The Spy Who Loved Me was well received by critics, who saw the film as a return to form for the franchise and praised Moore's performance. Moore himself called the film his personal favourite of his tenure as Bond.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Spy_Who_Loved_Me_(film)
anons..................why are movies so shit now?
It wins just for all the extra nipples
least cucked Craig fan lmao
Total Daniel Craig/Barbara Broccoli death, forever and always.
Very good film. Highly enjoyable. It's a shame you can't have a Bond thread without some schizoid zoomer Craigfan.
Based. Daniel Craig does not exist, James Bond ended with Die Another Day.
Lulu is more catchy and suiting.
>Amerimutt's frame of reference is Family Guy
>final scene is a fight scene with a midge
No. Licence to Kill is better.
>that shit ass Enter The Dragon rip off
>french midget
>Sgt Pepper
it's like a family guy episode
NOW YOU LISTEN ERE BWOY
THE HON'ABLE SHERRIF JAY DUBBYA PEPPA IS A HERO ROUND THESE PARTS, YA HEAR?
he was annoying in LALD but hilarious in Golden Gun
FOR HIS MILLION DOLLAR SKILL
>The Man With The Stolen Gun
Anyone else really like the unused Alice Cooper song? https://youtu.be/wMKPTSE14tY
I love it, Moore at his meanest, great villain and henchman, gorgeous sets and locations, underrated Bond girls, underrated theme song, one of my top 3
>underrated Bond girls
Too true. I wish Goodnight would've made another appearance, the dynamic between her and Bond was funny.
Eh, if I want maximum Moore, I'm sticking with TSWLM. IF I want more subdued Moore FEYO is good.
TMWTGG isn't really either. Feels too much like a Connery movie with Moore in it.
Moore is too jokey in TSWLM, and the Bond girl's fake Russian accent is atrocious
Has one of the best tracks series though. Top 5 easily.
Nik Nak laughing at the control panel still makes me happy
what's the advantage of a golden gun in comparison to a normal gun?
virtually untraceable.
This plus he can smuggle it because it is built from everyday articles like a cigarette case.
Plus im the movie of course it's symbolic because he steals the solar aggregates.
I like Moore as an icon, or comedian, but Connery has a seamless quality that merges obligation with high-fashion in a very ironic and interesting way, it's something that was missing from Daniel Craig's scripts.
who's Daniel Craig? they never made another Bond movie after Die Another Day, anon.
That's the idea. I still think of him this way.
he was good in layer cake, i hope he doesn't lie about his sexuality. james bond though? same as james brolin and lambert wilson, glad that never happened and henry cavill got the job.
To describe an early Bond film, it really is like watching an actor play a character and his alter ego all at once within the same scene. I think Shane Black approximated this with the character Gay Perry in Kiss Kiss Bang Bang.
The only actor to ACTUALLY play James Bond is Dalton. The rest are just themselves but called James Bond. That's it. That's who the new one will be, Aaron Taylor Johnson. Forget about what you think of James Bond, he might as well be a codename because none of the actors ever played the character of James Bond, just used the name and the occupation. Dalton did, though. I suggest you read the novels, they're great stuff.
I had a friend who read some of the early novels. In contrast I wanted to read the alternate script for Tomorrow Never Dies. Goldeneye was of course about the fall of the USSR, and the follow-up was going to be about the British Empire leaving Hong Kong, so there was going to be some conceptual symmetry between entries. It's funny to consider how cohesive the Brosnan movies could've been, since they ended up doing those really goofy plots, like the one post 9/11 entry is about some North Korean igloo?
i suggest you read the original script for goldeneye which was expressly written for dalton. so many more interesting moments, action, characters than the actual movie and more in line with LTK which was the best Bond movie of all time. Brosnan is a great cinematic Bond but his entire era is rife with missed opportunities
>Alec is just a bank robber at the end of it, no personal revenge against James or MI6
>Monica belluci and lucy Liu as the Bond girls in TND
>the original plot which would have been way more exciting than whatever the frick the movie was about
>Anthony Hopkins as M (M is not a woman, Bond taking orders from a woman is ridiculous)
>Neve Campbell (i read it in a magazine) as Christmas Jones instead of Richards
>Charlize Theron in DAD with Halle Berry
>Nightfire and EoN not being movies but games
so many missed opportunities.
and also
>keeping Alec alive as a rival character to Bond instead of wasting such an interesting character as a one-off
>wasting Renard and not leaning into the Tracy angle with Elektra
>Gustav Graves as an entire character
>not keeping Caroline Bliss as Moneypenny
Funnily enough, I heard that Hopkins was offered the role of Alec (who was originally going to be Bond's mentor rather than his peer) but turned it down. https://youtu.be/Uh7Iy-4FB30?si=S-deleJI4SrnryE_
North Korea is an obvious enemy but even then with all James Bond plots it's a rogue element or secret society so as not to alienate anyone too much. Making a James Bond plot that would involve a story element with some group or country that America or Britain was actively fighting a war with would be a bit too close to home to be comfortable with a broad audience that the series wants.
What do you think Bond 26 will do now that a new cold war is upon us?
they try to avoid modern-day politics as far as they can, because in its core it's a luxury-brands-showcase franchise disguised as a male power fantasy
that's why the villain is a rogue general or a gangster from connected with an unmentioned country
the closest they've been to modern day politics was the TLD pseudo-Iran-Contra plot
i'm fine with that, it's how the franchise operates and it keeps them from being extremely dated like that TLD plot. i'd love to see a rogue organization like Syndicate from MI or a malevolent AI that controls technology making Bond resort to old school spy tactics.
Living Daylights is a legendary action film, the sequel is much more novelistic and it would've been great to see that continue. It's terrific on suspense and intrigue as well.
Licence to Kill might as well be a murder revenge rampage movie. It's a lot more violent than the rest of them and it's great.
It certainly made me want to tongue-frick a hot belly dancer's navel.
Great villain lair and sick car stunt
NICK NACK WHERE IS MY FRICKING TABASCO SAUCE
>"Get in there, you little FINK!"
s'what he gets for wasting all that good wine
Roger Moore's James Bond movies are just The Saint movies. I like them for that nonetheless but still. I feel like Bond should have a harder edge.
rewatch Man With the Golden Gun, Moore is a complete butthole
you never saw The Saint pushing little kids off boats or threatening to shoot a man's penis off
Ironically, the israelite Saltzman leaving completely ruined the basedness and chauvinism after this movie. Bond got soft and never was based like Connery and early Moore.
It is one and it works because Dalton is the most accurate James Bond and in the novels he cares a lot about Felix and values him as a friend someone the two other Bonds didn't give two shits about.
You got bamboozled by the weird music edit, moore is the most violent
Didn't Dalton put Del Toro through a wood chipper or something?
That wasn't a bond film and Moore killed a child
No it's Octopussy, Khamal Khan by Louis Jordan is the best Bond villain.
I watched this movie the same day my brother died.
Did wanking to goodnight help you griefing?
Wil it ever be surpassed?
>is ...IS THAT A SILLY SOUND EFFECT? AHHH I'M GOING INSANE
Crazy stunt for the time, for sure.
Moore in his first two was great. I couldn't bear him in the others. He went too soft and lost all that edge he had. I loved his characterization in this movie. English gentleman who's also a complete maverick and doesn't care he got a girl killed just to get to Scaramanga.
Moore slaps or flat out punches a woman in almost every single one of his films. There's also a few where he pulls a woman's hair as hard as he possibly can. Moore as Bond was as physical as Mitchum
Roger Moore was the best and most enjoyable James Bond. He didn't do 7 movies into his 50's for no reason. The patrician choice is Moore. His love for life is infectious.
It sucked except for Scaramanga scenes, and he was underused
>You see, Mr. Bond I always thought I liked sneed but I discovered I enjoyed feeding even more.
>hating Nick Nack
homosexual
No, he's alright, but there aren't many moments where he's separate from his boss
>the midget actor fricked 60 women during shooting
>he killed himself when he hit 50 due to not having any more money to waste on hookers
Christopher Lee should've been James Bond
Only could have realistically replaced Connery, and I doubt they would've chosen the Dracula guy from Hammer films
Maud Adams was so beautiful in this movie.
>be abused woman
>try to get Bond to save you
>he slaps you around, then fricks you, and then when you die he doesn't give a shit
I never understood why this was so disliked. It's a bit "budget" compared to most Bonds but Moore and Lee are awesome and it has a great sense of humor.
It would have the worst OP if Madonna didn't make that abortion of a theme song.
>HE HAS A POWERFUL WEAPONJ
>HE CHARGES A MILLION A SHOT
>AN ASSASSIN SECOND TO NONE
>THE MAN WITH THE GOLDEN GUN
You're a homosexual if you don't find that catchy as frick. The Madonna song was also catchy. If you think they're worse than Adele, Sam Smtih and Billie Eilish kys.
I thought we established that DAD was the last movie so I didn't count them.
Ahh well anonymous posters and all. I do apologize. Indeed, you are right. Babs can get fricked.
She sure can.
At this point, she should just frick off and marry Daniel Craig and leave Bond to Bezos. He can't frick it up any worse than she has.
also, i apologize for telling you to harm yourself. this place is having an ill effect on me as i stray on to other threads other than Bond which is why i even bother with this site.
NTA but I don't mind Skyfall and No Time To Die's themes, horrible films mind you. I'm not sure why they're so widely hated here, Spectre's theme is one of the worst things I have ever heard though
I don't even remember No Time to Die. I personally dislike Skyfall because that shit was all over the radio for like half a year.
Then again, my personal favorite theme is Thunderball so I have dubious tastes to begin with.
How is your favourite theme being a classic that's always near the top of lists dubious?
Is it? I've never seen people talk about it, even in these threads.
Because it's a given that it's a great theme but you're right, most of Cinemaphile is Dalton or Brosnan so you get Moore and Connery underrated a bit but Tom Jones made an absolute belter. It was the right call to go with him over Shirley Bassey. Thunderball filters people because it's a slow burn spy piece that soaks in the locations and plot.
I dunno about the Madonna song but Lulu's theme kicks ass
What if Alice Cooper had made the theme song?
I don't think I would prefer Alice Cooper singing about Bond's huge load and wanting to see if he'll bang you or me.
It's definitely among the top Bonds quadrumvir, next to Moonraker, Octopussy and OHMSS.
For me it's the surreal atmosphere of the opening sequence.
I keep thinking it was Robert Davi with the Golden Gun and Christopher Lee in License to Kill. Am I moron?
Why would you ever think that the English guy was the leader of the Mexican cartel and the Guido the English hitman?
I don't know, OK! I'm just getting old and senile or something!
for Moore, i prefer the spy who loved me or moonraker, because wonderful sub base battle and wonderful space battle
My favorite bond movies rabked
1)You only live twice, connery and volcanoes and ninjas
2)On Her Majestys secret service Lazenby (probably the best overall 'real' film in the bond series because of the ending)
3)The spy who loved me. For me the hottest bond girl and great end battle
4)Moonraker, space battle with stirring music. Let us die a glorious death.
>the spy who loved me
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Spy_Who_Loved_Me_(film)
>The spy who loved me
The Spy Who Loved Me was well received by critics, who saw the film as a return to form for the franchise and praised Moore's performance. Moore himself called the film his personal favourite of his tenure as Bond.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Spy_Who_Loved_Me_(film)
anons..................why are movies so shit now?
Licence to Kill
Ocotpussy
Thunderball
Teri Hatcher