If any series needs a total reboot it's DB the power levels are in the trillions now there's only so many hair colors they can do reset it all back to goku and his grandpa.
>trillions
they hit that territory in DBZ let alone Super
the power levels right now are absurdly high to the point they might be literally infinite
I'm not kidding either - in the Tournament of Power, Goku powering up to Ultra Instinct shook the universe they were in - an explicitly "infinite" void. He shook infinity. The only way to do that would be with infinity power.
At this point the series is about "who has the bigger infinite power level", it's fricking moronic
Goku is so strong now, you'd think he'd have ran out of opponents he could fight. I forgot that there were universes that didn't have to compete in the tournament because the people in them were so OP, they weren't considered for erasure. If Super starts up again, it'll probably dip into those universes
The Manga is still ongoing
The current power rankings (not including Beerus/Whis) for Universe 7 are:
1) Freiza
2) Gohan
The spot for third is either Goku, Vegeta, or Piccolo. Vegeta won another fight against Goku (3-0 now) but just barely, and Piccolo got a major power boost because he got Shenron to unlock his potential like Guru used to do on Namek. Shenron also gave Piccolo a transformation to "Orange Piccolo" (combined with "Black Freiza" it really seems like they don't care about creativity)
Don't worry I'm sure Goku will get another power up to bring him back to number 1
Because Frieza has come to enjoy fighting and wants the saiyans around to continue pushing himself
He's basically adopted the Saiyan mindset without realizing it himself
4 months ago
Anonymous
And why doesn't Beerus aim to train Frieza to become the next GoD?
4 months ago
Anonymous
He doesn't think Freiza is a good choice, which is a pretty reasonable assumption since Freiza is still pretty fricking evil
4 months ago
Anonymous
I don't recall Beerus caring about morality.
I also don't recall Beerus caring about Frieza being evil.
I also don't recall Frieza killing more lives than Beerus. Mostly he conquers planets and keeps them under his empire.
4 months ago
Anonymous
It's not exactly about him being "evil" but more about his temperament
Frieza is a conqueror, not a destroyer
Beerus wants Vegeta to be next in line for the job
4 months ago
Anonymous
Vegeta is neither a killer, a destroyer or a conqueror though.
4 months ago
Anonymous
He was literally all 3 anon
4 months ago
Anonymous
>is >was
Please learn to read.
4 months ago
Anonymous
Vegeta is still perfectly fine with killing. Goku doesn't like to kill but he'll do it if he has to, Vegeta is much more ready to do it
Vegeta doesn't care for destroying but would certainly be able to adopt the "planned destruction" mindset of a GoD quite easily - the whole point of the GoD is that they destroy what doesn't work and the Kais create to try again
Freiza would simply destroy anything he didn't like
It's also worth noting that Beerus is a pretty shitty GoD despite being the most powerful of them
4 months ago
Anonymous
>they destroy what doesn't work
Didn't he (half) destroy a planet that didn't make him a perfect meal?
4 months ago
Anonymous
Yes, that's why Beerus is a shitty GoD
4 months ago
Anonymous
>the whole point of the GoD is that they destroy what doesn't work
Was it ever explained that is how it works? From what I saw, Beerus destroys whatever he feels like it, at a whim. Pillow not comfy enough? Destroy. Food not tasty? Destroy. Didn't get the food he wanted? Destroy. Disrespect him? Destroy.
Beerus is like jannies when they camp a thread they like and suddenly there is a shitload of [Deleted] posts all throughout it, for the most asinine things imaginable
4 months ago
Anonymous
Yep, in the ToP and Zamasu arcs it's pointed out that it's meant to be: >Kais create planets and observe life, influencing very occasionally >Destroyers destroy whatever doesn't work so the Kais can create again
Beerus is shit at his job because he destroys shit for no good reason, and doesn't destroy the shit he actually should have (like Buu when it was killing the Kais)
4 months ago
Anonymous
>like Buu
Retcon that didn't make sense with the introduction of GoDs as a concept.
4 months ago
Anonymous
Beerus sleeps for millions of years at a time
4 months ago
Anonymous
Supreme Kai didn't think to contact Beerus or Whis while Buu was potentially about to destroy the entire universe?
4 months ago
Anonymous
Toriayama wrote the manga weekly, and planned literally none of it out
He saw piccolo almost die against Cell Rojo and then unlocked Beast Mode (Power level: 8 Sextillion)
4 months ago
Anonymous
lmfao wtf so they just remade the cell saga into a movie and tacked on new forms?
4 months ago
Anonymous
Not exactly. It's not really Cell and there's no tournament. Dr Gero's grandson gets manipulated by the current CEO of the Red Ribbon army to create more androids. He creates 2 superhero-style androids and that giant red Cell robot. Gero's grandson is not really evil though, and he helps Gohan and the others to stop the Cell monster. Meanwhile, Goku, Vegeta and Broly are all off-world doing some training, and Vegeta beats Goku for the first time ever
4 months ago
Anonymous
They definitely piggybacked off of the popularity of SSJ2 kid Gohan VS Cell. They even shamelessly copied some panel scenes from that encounter. Going that hard on nostalgia shows some real creative bankruptcy. I know Toriyama doesn't like Gohan, but that's really too much to put zero effort in like that
4 months ago
Anonymous
I wonder if Blanco and Gohan as a whole will just get shelved again. Gohan doesn't sell merch, so they aren't going to focus on him. Blanco will fade away like whatever that form Trunks got. Some quick hype, then gone
4 months ago
Anonymous
>ESTO ES EL FIN, CELULA ROJA!
I can't believe they actually used fricking Gohan Blanco. Super has truly reached the level of the shittiest mexican fanfics.
Can't wait for Gohan Calvo and El Hermano
>Urkelmaxx and get nerd glasses and a vest sweater >Study bugs >Watch Piccolo nearly die >Instantly become stronger than your father who was training with the most powerful entities in your universe and sitting in the time chamber for years with Bejita
When you're Gohan, you don't have to try. Power is just given to you, just for being Gohan. In reality, Toriyama doesn't care about him and only ever works with his character if some Toei managers who are Gohan fans are annoying him about including him
He saw piccolo almost die against Cell Rojo and then unlocked Beast Mode (Power level: 8 Sextillion)
>Piccolo: Dragon power >Goku: Angel power >Vegeta: God of Destruction power >Gohan: God of Creation power
This should've been the obvious route choice for Gohan's role. He already had connections with the Elder Kai, this movie should've been him inheriting Kaioshin powers but with the soul of a warrior.
4 months ago
Anonymous
Gohan's power, if they go with the theming they have set up, should end up beyond something demonic in origin. That is, something from the demon realm, like Dabura, Janemba, Piccolo Daimao's goons. Beast or θηρίον has long historical associations with Satan, devils, and demons.
4 months ago
Anonymous
Toriyama said he gave Gohan pale skin and a scary face, then added the thorny white hair when he thought the former two weren't really enough to sell the new form. Being a student of Piccolo Jr's demon school and using the demonic Makankosappo attack, added to Gohan heading in that direction
4 months ago
Anonymous
Historically, Gohan's source of his power was just this unhinged rage. Beast or Therion does not necessarily mean a big or scary beast, just a wild animal.
They made it moronic when villains could destroy an entire planet with a single Ki blast
Whenever Frieza says he could destroy namek with a single finger it has no threat to it, when it shows Vegeta being able to do the same thing to the big planet despite being a fraction of Friezas power
He was still more than capable of destroying Earth considering how easily ROSHI destroyed the moon mid-fight (which he still won) back in DB with a power level in the low 100s at the time (definitely below 200 - Vegeta's was 18000)
its dragon ball dude, one part of its fanbase are morons, other part, normal dudes that want to watch WWE but with superpowers.... and the other part are lunatics
I don't remember anyone being excited about Gold Frieza. Giving him a palette swap was lazy, also Toei didn't want to radically change him too much or it might have effected toy sales if people didn't immediately recognize Frieza
Didn't they "bring Cell back" in the last movie? With supers garbage writing I hope they just leave Cooler and anything else they haven't already fricked up alone.
>human but....DIFFERENT COLOUR
Why does this cause chuds to shit themselves with excitement?
>Didn't they "bring Cell back" in the last movie?
By putting it in quotes I assume you already know it wasn't actually Cell, but a mindless behemoth with an upgraded Cell body.
That wasn't the case before Super. SSJ were all golden, Frieza had the same color scheme in all forms, same for Cell and Buu. DB Super is hot uninspired fricking garbage and everything it brought forward is not even worth mentioning.
What you are witnessing is the effect of writers not being able to create compelling storylines.
Instead of making a more interesting villain, such as by creating a unique backstory and motivation, they just make the villain more threatening by increasing his power level. The only way to beat him at that point is to make the hero even more powerful.
They rinse and repeat this same formula for hundreds of episodes until they have reached power creep that isn't interesting anymore because all of the "infinity power levels" just blend together.
This power creep is the same type of thing that tends to happen in MMORPGs as they develop over time. Instead of making better boss mechanics, the devs just make higher HP numbers and make you farm the same fights 1000 times to get higher gear stats.
Power creep is always a sign of untalented or lazy content creators.
Frieza was so iconic that no villain that came after him has come near his popularity. So they just kept bringing him back to generate hype. Like how Star Wars and Star Trek keep bringing back their original heroes for new storylines. TFA would have not been nearly as successful if it didn’t include Luke, Han, and Leia.
literally everyone loves TFA outside of a small subset of hardcore autists who think they're intelligent for noticing there was an xwing and a death star in the movie. It's TLJ where things got controversial
I think eventually the character being used for comedy will happen to everyone on Dragon Ball, in the fullness of time. Piccolo Jr, Bejita, Frieza, Majin Buu, Beerus, Hit, etc. They come out of the box very intimidating, even in Majin Buu's case when he starts eye gouging and beating people to death, then are used for comedy. There's no escape from it. It is Dragon Ball after all, not Hokuto no Ken, so to some degree it is to be expected. Sometimes though, it gets to be too much. Let at least some of the villains retain their dignity so they can still give off some level of being imposing. If everyone is a clown, it gets old
Oh frick, what the frick? That screenshot is actually real?
>Look it up >It is
Goddamn... It was from that Copy Bejita series of episodes that I skipped too because it looked like total nonsense
>Bejita gets given some magic item that resembles a pacifier >Pops it in his mouth and thinks nothing of it >Jaco sees it and tries to get it on his phone so he can upload it to Youtube or whatever >Can't because the battery died >Goku asks Bejita if he thinks he's a little old to be sucking a pacifier >Bejita doesn't know what he's talking about >Goku takes Bejita to see baby Pan sucking on a pacifier >Videl is trying to encourage Pan to give it up because she's getting too old for it >Bejita's so fricking mad that he's standing up on his tippy-toes to yell at Goku for extra tiny manlet shaming
Man, they really threw him under the bus in that episode, didn't they? It is one thing when fans are making derogatory memes and stuff, but it is another thing entirely when the company is doing it. That is genuinely sad
4 months ago
Anonymous
Dude, frick super. It's like the moron toriyama just got involved to spite Dragon Ball fans. gay is mad that it's the only thing with his name on it that people know and care about.
4 months ago
Anonymous
Arale's design is so ugly. I remember when I first saw that episode was coming, I didn't even know who she was and didn't care. Toriyama is known mainly for Dragon Ball and lending his art style to things like Dragon Quest and Chrono Trigger. It stops there, nothing else he made is remembered fondly, or remembered at all. Super tries to put some things in there he did, like Dr.Slump characters and Jaco, probably to please him since he was involved somewhat with production
4 months ago
Anonymous
>nothing else he made is remembered fondly, or remembered at all.
Don't talk shit about SandLand, Black person.
Ssj4 was kino. My only minor issue is that it's not really a super saiyan transformation, it should've just been its own thing. I always thought that ssj1-3 weren't actually distinct transformations, it was just the same transformation stacked on top of itself and Ssj4 doesn't seem to fit.
because of what it means within the context of the narrative, you fricking dullard.
I don't watch Dragon Ball, I don't care to watch it, but I respect the enjoyment of those who do.
I swear to God. Why are people always upset about people enjoying things. period. like,what fricking neurotic breakdown has to happen for morons to just be infinitely upset at people enjoying different things? why can't people stop brown nosing into other people's business? its fricking annoying. its all there is on goddamn all matters of Social Media, its giving me digitally transmisible ass-cheek cancer
Cell Max seemed so tacked on. He didn't even get any voice lines with dialogue. I wonder if Toriyama had any input on Cell Max being included in the movie at all
I dont get how people still care about this series after this movie. Battle of Gods has a lot of charm, slots into the original series nicely, and Super Saiyan God felt new and interesting. Then this movie comes out, shitty new forms, shitty plot retreads, takes away all the mystique of ssg by just making it super saiyan but blue. And then the rest of super followed that same trajectory. Broly was ok but even then the Bardock shit rubs me the wrong way, goku being good because of nurture over nature is part of what made him great.
If any series needs a total reboot it's DB the power levels are in the trillions now there's only so many hair colors they can do reset it all back to goku and his grandpa.
DB needs to be left alone, not rebooted.
Isn't that what they are doing with the Dragon Ball babies thing they have coming later this year
Nope. It's just some standalone show about babies playing around the house so that toriyama can take a small break from all the powerlevelhomosexualry
Toriyama wrote DAIMA as a sequel to Super HIMSELF you moron.
>trillions
they hit that territory in DBZ let alone Super
the power levels right now are absurdly high to the point they might be literally infinite
I'm not kidding either - in the Tournament of Power, Goku powering up to Ultra Instinct shook the universe they were in - an explicitly "infinite" void. He shook infinity. The only way to do that would be with infinity power.
At this point the series is about "who has the bigger infinite power level", it's fricking moronic
yes, some infinities are bigger than others
Goku is so strong now, you'd think he'd have ran out of opponents he could fight. I forgot that there were universes that didn't have to compete in the tournament because the people in them were so OP, they weren't considered for erasure. If Super starts up again, it'll probably dip into those universes
The Manga is still ongoing
The current power rankings (not including Beerus/Whis) for Universe 7 are:
1) Freiza
2) Gohan
The spot for third is either Goku, Vegeta, or Piccolo. Vegeta won another fight against Goku (3-0 now) but just barely, and Piccolo got a major power boost because he got Shenron to unlock his potential like Guru used to do on Namek. Shenron also gave Piccolo a transformation to "Orange Piccolo" (combined with "Black Freiza" it really seems like they don't care about creativity)
Don't worry I'm sure Goku will get another power up to bring him back to number 1
Why didn't Frieza just instantly kill Goku and Vegeta? Why only attack once and leave?
Because Frieza has come to enjoy fighting and wants the saiyans around to continue pushing himself
He's basically adopted the Saiyan mindset without realizing it himself
And why doesn't Beerus aim to train Frieza to become the next GoD?
He doesn't think Freiza is a good choice, which is a pretty reasonable assumption since Freiza is still pretty fricking evil
I don't recall Beerus caring about morality.
I also don't recall Beerus caring about Frieza being evil.
I also don't recall Frieza killing more lives than Beerus. Mostly he conquers planets and keeps them under his empire.
It's not exactly about him being "evil" but more about his temperament
Frieza is a conqueror, not a destroyer
Beerus wants Vegeta to be next in line for the job
Vegeta is neither a killer, a destroyer or a conqueror though.
He was literally all 3 anon
>is
>was
Please learn to read.
Vegeta is still perfectly fine with killing. Goku doesn't like to kill but he'll do it if he has to, Vegeta is much more ready to do it
Vegeta doesn't care for destroying but would certainly be able to adopt the "planned destruction" mindset of a GoD quite easily - the whole point of the GoD is that they destroy what doesn't work and the Kais create to try again
Freiza would simply destroy anything he didn't like
It's also worth noting that Beerus is a pretty shitty GoD despite being the most powerful of them
>they destroy what doesn't work
Didn't he (half) destroy a planet that didn't make him a perfect meal?
Yes, that's why Beerus is a shitty GoD
>the whole point of the GoD is that they destroy what doesn't work
Was it ever explained that is how it works? From what I saw, Beerus destroys whatever he feels like it, at a whim. Pillow not comfy enough? Destroy. Food not tasty? Destroy. Didn't get the food he wanted? Destroy. Disrespect him? Destroy.
Beerus is like jannies when they camp a thread they like and suddenly there is a shitload of [Deleted] posts all throughout it, for the most asinine things imaginable
Yep, in the ToP and Zamasu arcs it's pointed out that it's meant to be:
>Kais create planets and observe life, influencing very occasionally
>Destroyers destroy whatever doesn't work so the Kais can create again
Beerus is shit at his job because he destroys shit for no good reason, and doesn't destroy the shit he actually should have (like Buu when it was killing the Kais)
>like Buu
Retcon that didn't make sense with the introduction of GoDs as a concept.
Beerus sleeps for millions of years at a time
Supreme Kai didn't think to contact Beerus or Whis while Buu was potentially about to destroy the entire universe?
Toriayama wrote the manga weekly, and planned literally none of it out
why is Gohan strong now wtf
He saw piccolo almost die against Cell Rojo and then unlocked Beast Mode (Power level: 8 Sextillion)
lmfao wtf so they just remade the cell saga into a movie and tacked on new forms?
Not exactly. It's not really Cell and there's no tournament. Dr Gero's grandson gets manipulated by the current CEO of the Red Ribbon army to create more androids. He creates 2 superhero-style androids and that giant red Cell robot. Gero's grandson is not really evil though, and he helps Gohan and the others to stop the Cell monster. Meanwhile, Goku, Vegeta and Broly are all off-world doing some training, and Vegeta beats Goku for the first time ever
They definitely piggybacked off of the popularity of SSJ2 kid Gohan VS Cell. They even shamelessly copied some panel scenes from that encounter. Going that hard on nostalgia shows some real creative bankruptcy. I know Toriyama doesn't like Gohan, but that's really too much to put zero effort in like that
I wonder if Blanco and Gohan as a whole will just get shelved again. Gohan doesn't sell merch, so they aren't going to focus on him. Blanco will fade away like whatever that form Trunks got. Some quick hype, then gone
>ESTO ES EL FIN, CELULA ROJA!
I can't believe they actually used fricking Gohan Blanco. Super has truly reached the level of the shittiest mexican fanfics.
Can't wait for Gohan Calvo and El Hermano
>Urkelmaxx and get nerd glasses and a vest sweater
>Study bugs
>Watch Piccolo nearly die
>Instantly become stronger than your father who was training with the most powerful entities in your universe and sitting in the time chamber for years with Bejita
When you're Gohan, you don't have to try. Power is just given to you, just for being Gohan. In reality, Toriyama doesn't care about him and only ever works with his character if some Toei managers who are Gohan fans are annoying him about including him
>Piccolo: Dragon power
>Goku: Angel power
>Vegeta: God of Destruction power
>Gohan: God of Creation power
This should've been the obvious route choice for Gohan's role. He already had connections with the Elder Kai, this movie should've been him inheriting Kaioshin powers but with the soul of a warrior.
Gohan's power, if they go with the theming they have set up, should end up beyond something demonic in origin. That is, something from the demon realm, like Dabura, Janemba, Piccolo Daimao's goons. Beast or θηρίον has long historical associations with Satan, devils, and demons.
Toriyama said he gave Gohan pale skin and a scary face, then added the thorny white hair when he thought the former two weren't really enough to sell the new form. Being a student of Piccolo Jr's demon school and using the demonic Makankosappo attack, added to Gohan heading in that direction
Historically, Gohan's source of his power was just this unhinged rage. Beast or Therion does not necessarily mean a big or scary beast, just a wild animal.
So now is basically like the WWF? Is there any story or just tournaments?
>Vegeta won another fight against Goku (3-0 now) but just barely
With one line you invalidate your whole post, cuck.
Where the frick is broly? Is taht toyotaro guy that salty that people liked that movie more than anything hes done?
They made it moronic when villains could destroy an entire planet with a single Ki blast
Whenever Frieza says he could destroy namek with a single finger it has no threat to it, when it shows Vegeta being able to do the same thing to the big planet despite being a fraction of Friezas power
Bug*
vegeta destroying the bug planet was anime-only filler
He was still more than capable of destroying Earth considering how easily ROSHI destroyed the moon mid-fight (which he still won) back in DB with a power level in the low 100s at the time (definitely below 200 - Vegeta's was 18000)
Me realising you are right
A trillion isn't that high.
>power levels
moron alert
This is what Dragon Ball actually needs.
OK but what colour is Goku's hair?
No character will ever be more powerful than Krillin when someone's trying to prevent him from being keked
Because its black frieza, homie
its dragon ball dude, one part of its fanbase are morons, other part, normal dudes that want to watch WWE but with superpowers.... and the other part are lunatics
>WWE but with superpowers
Stop spamming this meme Faulconertroon.
"Character, but different color" is a very common trope in all media. I don't know why you chuds always lose your shit over it.
Do polgays even enjoy anything at this point?
Interracial cuck porn.
Only things that aren't woke propaganda and race baiting, but I understand there's not much of that around anymore
Anything with latino protagonists.
Is there anything the goyim don't eat up at this point?
normal non libtard people consume media the same way they consumed media, even if it's rife with shit that they hate .
>common trope in all media
You mean american media?
It's all american media. if it wasn't for the west you'd be squatting in a field right now poking berries up your nose
Dragonball super was such dogshit. Shitty writing, shit animation, lazy characters.
>there are tens of thousands of mexicans who have jerk offd to this
Not DBZ fans, dbs fans.
DBZ fans know dbs is shit.
I don't remember anyone being excited about Gold Frieza. Giving him a palette swap was lazy, also Toei didn't want to radically change him too much or it might have effected toy sales if people didn't immediately recognize Frieza
The whole reason behind these palette swaps is to sell merchandise. That’s why Pokemon keeps pumping out new Charizard forms every few years.
Every single pokemon has a shiny variant though.
Also all those new Pikachu variants
It doesn't. Super fans aren't DBZ fans.
>I am Golden Frieza
>BOOOOOOO!
>I am Gandalf the White
>YAAAAAAAAS!!!!!!
I don't care about a single thing that happens in this dead franchise until they bring either Cell or Cooler back
Didn't they "bring Cell back" in the last movie? With supers garbage writing I hope they just leave Cooler and anything else they haven't already fricked up alone.
Because blue b***hes are hot
>Didn't they "bring Cell back" in the last movie?
By putting it in quotes I assume you already know it wasn't actually Cell, but a mindless behemoth with an upgraded Cell body.
I misread that as "shit themselves with excrement" and was confused at the redundancy
Dragon ball fandom is split these days, some want Super anime to continue and love the manga, others wants Daima
That wasn't the case before Super. SSJ were all golden, Frieza had the same color scheme in all forms, same for Cell and Buu. DB Super is hot uninspired fricking garbage and everything it brought forward is not even worth mentioning.
What you are witnessing is the effect of writers not being able to create compelling storylines.
Instead of making a more interesting villain, such as by creating a unique backstory and motivation, they just make the villain more threatening by increasing his power level. The only way to beat him at that point is to make the hero even more powerful.
They rinse and repeat this same formula for hundreds of episodes until they have reached power creep that isn't interesting anymore because all of the "infinity power levels" just blend together.
This power creep is the same type of thing that tends to happen in MMORPGs as they develop over time. Instead of making better boss mechanics, the devs just make higher HP numbers and make you farm the same fights 1000 times to get higher gear stats.
Power creep is always a sign of untalented or lazy content creators.
Frieza was so iconic that no villain that came after him has come near his popularity. So they just kept bringing him back to generate hype. Like how Star Wars and Star Trek keep bringing back their original heroes for new storylines. TFA would have not been nearly as successful if it didn’t include Luke, Han, and Leia.
TFA was a lukewarm reception at best, but granted its the case
literally everyone loves TFA outside of a small subset of hardcore autists who think they're intelligent for noticing there was an xwing and a death star in the movie. It's TLJ where things got controversial
They just ruin their villains doing that. Frieza went from being intimidating to being a joke.
I think eventually the character being used for comedy will happen to everyone on Dragon Ball, in the fullness of time. Piccolo Jr, Bejita, Frieza, Majin Buu, Beerus, Hit, etc. They come out of the box very intimidating, even in Majin Buu's case when he starts eye gouging and beating people to death, then are used for comedy. There's no escape from it. It is Dragon Ball after all, not Hokuto no Ken, so to some degree it is to be expected. Sometimes though, it gets to be too much. Let at least some of the villains retain their dignity so they can still give off some level of being imposing. If everyone is a clown, it gets old
This was better
Oh frick, what the frick? That screenshot is actually real?
>Look it up
>It is
Goddamn... It was from that Copy Bejita series of episodes that I skipped too because it looked like total nonsense
>Bejita gets given some magic item that resembles a pacifier
>Pops it in his mouth and thinks nothing of it
>Jaco sees it and tries to get it on his phone so he can upload it to Youtube or whatever
>Can't because the battery died
>Goku asks Bejita if he thinks he's a little old to be sucking a pacifier
>Bejita doesn't know what he's talking about
>Goku takes Bejita to see baby Pan sucking on a pacifier
>Videl is trying to encourage Pan to give it up because she's getting too old for it
>Bejita's so fricking mad that he's standing up on his tippy-toes to yell at Goku for extra tiny manlet shaming
Man, they really threw him under the bus in that episode, didn't they? It is one thing when fans are making derogatory memes and stuff, but it is another thing entirely when the company is doing it. That is genuinely sad
Dude, frick super. It's like the moron toriyama just got involved to spite Dragon Ball fans. gay is mad that it's the only thing with his name on it that people know and care about.
Arale's design is so ugly. I remember when I first saw that episode was coming, I didn't even know who she was and didn't care. Toriyama is known mainly for Dragon Ball and lending his art style to things like Dragon Quest and Chrono Trigger. It stops there, nothing else he made is remembered fondly, or remembered at all. Super tries to put some things in there he did, like Dr.Slump characters and Jaco, probably to please him since he was involved somewhat with production
>nothing else he made is remembered fondly, or remembered at all.
Don't talk shit about SandLand, Black person.
>human but....DIFFERENT COLOUR
Why does this cause chuds to shit themselves with excitement?
SSJ4 > Dude, new hair colour!
Would be better if he still had the golden hair
You call hair color changes bad while soifacing over red body hair?
>Intimidating
>Aesthetically different
>Ties in to his saiyan roots by referencing his ape form
This is peak saiyan design and won't pretend it's not
Still waiting for Super Saiyan 4 females with their breasts out
>Kale trying to hide her huge breasts spilling out
Cute
Ssj4 was kino. My only minor issue is that it's not really a super saiyan transformation, it should've just been its own thing. I always thought that ssj1-3 weren't actually distinct transformations, it was just the same transformation stacked on top of itself and Ssj4 doesn't seem to fit.
I love this design but did they ever explain where the red body hair came from? Feels like an interesting design choice.
>new
Anon, ORAS was 10 years ago
>Anon, ORAS was 10 years ago
I can't believe it has been that long
The red fur and around the eyes is meant to feel like kabuki theater
>DBZ fans
They hate DBS, tho
because of what it means within the context of the narrative, you fricking dullard.
I don't watch Dragon Ball, I don't care to watch it, but I respect the enjoyment of those who do.
I swear to God. Why are people always upset about people enjoying things. period. like,what fricking neurotic breakdown has to happen for morons to just be infinitely upset at people enjoying different things? why can't people stop brown nosing into other people's business? its fricking annoying. its all there is on goddamn all matters of Social Media, its giving me digitally transmisible ass-cheek cancer
>gold
old news
they change the color of people all the time in movies and i dont see you complaining homosexual
The average IQ of DBZ fans is genuinely like 90
>Frieza but yellow
>Cell but red
Can't wait for mint ice cream Buu to be introduced in Daipa.
Cell Max seemed so tacked on. He didn't even get any voice lines with dialogue. I wonder if Toriyama had any input on Cell Max being included in the movie at all
>THIS IS FOR GOHAN!
coldest moment in the series, god Trunks is cool
whats going on here
I am going insane.
>Palette Swap
>Palette swap Frieza
>Palette swap Cell
I guess everybody is getting their turn now. Palette swap Janemba when?
He isnt canon.
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Waku waku
No DBZ fan enjoys S*per
I dont get how people still care about this series after this movie. Battle of Gods has a lot of charm, slots into the original series nicely, and Super Saiyan God felt new and interesting. Then this movie comes out, shitty new forms, shitty plot retreads, takes away all the mystique of ssg by just making it super saiyan but blue. And then the rest of super followed that same trajectory. Broly was ok but even then the Bardock shit rubs me the wrong way, goku being good because of nurture over nature is part of what made him great.
DB peaked in the first series.
It has been colour changing, human hating, people reviving, infinity power level having, no stakes slop ever since.
>same character BUT TURD!!!!!