these idiots can't even keep up with a capeshit marvel movie
no, it's not >Our Strange did not die defeating Thanos. We were at war. While the rest of us banded together to try to stop Thanos, Stephen, as always, chose to go it alone. >838 MORDO: He turned to the Dark hold, began Dream walking, in hopes that our salvation might lie in the Multiverse. >CAPTAIN MARVEL: And guess what? It didn’t. But he kept doing it anyway. >REED: One night, you called us all together, confessed that you had been Dream walking, and in your words, “Things had gotten out of hand.” You never told us the details of what had happened, only that you had inadvertently triggered an Incursion. You, our friend, had caused the annihilation of another universe. Everyone in that reality died. Everyone. >PROF CHARLES XAVIER: Stephen renounced the Darkhold’s evil and helped us find The Book of Vishanti, a weapon we did use together to defeat Thanos.
Within your life time there'll be an anniversary Disney+ edition where the action is moved to Latveria, and Terrence Howard is replaced with a deepfake Don Cheadle.
Its basically a Utopia because early on the world was given a strong british female that defeated the nazis rather than some cis white male. Progressivism became mainstream in the 40s and continued until they reached a near perfect society.
no, its just moronic. its makes everything inconsequential. its a cheap trick of the same magnitude as "it was all just a dream"
and as far as i recall DC has multiverse shit as well. american comics in general suck dick hard.
This is correct opinion.
Same with time travel tech
>inconsequential
No, idiot. If you die, even if you get "replaced" it isn't you. Also, you can't do this as was explained in Dr Strange 2 because the universes try to merge. You fricking pissant mind.
but it isn't me, its a character in a fictional setting. Said fictional setting and characters have no stakes if they can be replaced by an exact replica the moment they die. It makes the viewer not care about consequences.
Wouldn't that be potentially impossible if there's an infinite number of universes?
2 years ago
Anonymous
Jokes on you I live in the universe that discovered the technology to make it really easy to find the universe I'm looking for.
2 years ago
Anonymous
if strange can search 14 million in a couple minutes, no
2 years ago
Anonymous
It depends on how varied things are in each Universe I guess and how well you can filter it to Universes where the timelines are more or less the same to the point where you exist. Also how fast you're able to search.
the Disney version is yes. Heinlein came up with this shit ages ago when he postulated World as Myth.
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TheWorldAsMyth
they are cataloged and assigned numbers sequentially at first contact dipshit
>they are cataloged and assigned numbers sequentially at first contact dipshit
Then how the frick is the universe that's labeling them not number 1, you fricks?
if you come to think about it, there are probably more universes where humanity never existed, or it was wiped out by anything
considering how random planetary location is, i'd say in most of the multiverse there are no earths... or suns... the problem is that multiverse means infinite universes... which means, there's no "majority" of anything in infinity.
infinity and multiverses are a very, very shitty thing for low level TV/movies like this.
>infinate universes
s so your saying their;s a chance that in one of theese unimaginable uncountable unprovable improbable completly hypothetical reductionist thoretical realms that have no standing anyware in nature and no realisation even in imagination that just maybe somewhere theres a good marvel movie
Anon i find you absurd and should immediately report to your local inquisitor for study
I'm pretty sure all the universes are the same up until humans or other intelligent life start meddling.
But yeah multiverses are stupid and a complete cop out.
What you're "pretty sure" about is irrelevant you worthless moron. We literally saw that not all universes are the same. Some don't have human life (bee world), and some don't have an earth at all (living tribunal realm, the one right after it that looked like a black hole in an empty plane)
Try paying attention before sharing your braindead opinion homosexual
Maybe it's canon there's infinite universes but it'd be better if there wasn't infinite universes just a shit load of them. So it's not the case that every possible thing has happened somewhere making it all inconsequential.
>Ah yes, let us refer to the 838th universe we have just discovered as Universe #748272930bn88kl0982765433nb876433200997778136484959402826482747372548jnk8765555555
He got put out of business by the illuminatis efforts to create a peaceful society.
He was still peddlings missiles, never wound up in a cave. Only a millionaire not a billionaire.
Not an inventor only an alcoholic.
'Prime universe' is a shitty midwit concept. No universe should ever have primacy over any other universe, especially if there are an infinite number of universes.
It's no wonder they jobbed to Wanda so much if they were so shit that they needed Doctor Strange with 2 magic books to beat Thanos when they had 3 of the most powerful super heroes. Their universes heroes had to have been severely underpowered.
They don't, and they fluctuate wildly even for individual characters. In another comic Black Bolt could fight ultra Thanos and one shot him because of some bullshit explanation that won't carry over to the next writer anyway. It's the nature of autism + multiple authors.
My problem is there are so many forms of power (magic, psionic, raw strength, etc) that its never clear what overrides what and you just have to accept outcomes when characters fight each other, but that sort of takes out the tension of the fight.
Yeah, that's the problem. There is no nuance regarding different types of power at all. Whatever power a character does have just gets added together and set at a "power level" or "tier," then the only thing that matters is how that level compares to the opponent's.
For example, if Character A has some super high psychic power but has zero physical strength, they will be able to tank punches from Character B who's a superpowered body builder as long as Character B's "power level" is "below" Character A's. It's fricking simplified bullshit that removes all actual thought for the writers and lets them just not consider anything other than some cumulative tier comparison.
it will never work because authors don't read each other nor care about internal consistency.
In a comic you have Punisher breaking every bone of his hand for punching Spidey's jaw (which btw didn't absolutely nothing to Spider-man) and in the next one you have Punisher tanking Juggernauth punches and at worst have a bruise. Is just a contest for who cares less about the comics and puts the biggest asspull.
Imagine as if all Marvel/DC authors were Kubo Tite.
They don't, and they fluctuate wildly even for individual characters. In another comic Black Bolt could fight ultra Thanos and one shot him because of some bullshit explanation that won't carry over to the next writer anyway. It's the nature of autism + multiple authors.
>they are weak enough to be interesting when they need to be and strong enough to win when they need to be
and they add *multi verse* basically the DLC of comics for re-skins and shit so every hero is the strongest
so the 8 year old kid who really really likes hawkeye becauses hes a fuking moron and his dad gave him a bow for christmass gets to read a book where hawkeye is the strongest
its total dogshit just ignore it all
>hulk is super strong >but iron man makes a suit to fight hult
like its stupid
doctor strange fights entire universes >but some guy who needs a glove to le troony the universe dominates him
it makes no sense when you look at it in terms of actual events ect just enjoy your fun books
they don't but this is not a real comic it's even worse, some "event" garbage or other, maybe some whatif alternate shite
basically writers are homosexuals and go with the first "epic shit bro!" they come up with
the running theme is that squirell girl taking out these big bads alone, but then some other homosexual writer recons it as a clone or robot, so now they preemtively write in "this is actually the real one".
it's a dick measuring contest of the saddest kind.
>punch you in the face >your helmet absorbs 80% of the damage and breaks >you get hit by the other 20% >hurr the helmet broke it's useless >I punch you again >your dumb face gets 100% of the damage and breaks
2 years ago
Anonymous
pretty sure it's just for design. Otherwise, he's just Purple Hulk.
2 years ago
Anonymous
but thanos has no helmet in that picture so basically your a homosexual
2 years ago
Anonymous
You can literally see the leftovers of the helmet fricking fricktard I guess you don't need one because there's no brain to protect anyway
Seriously? That's a woman? I assumed they were doing the whole "Whoa, new universe is so different and opposite" and then race-swapped and gender-swapped her for maximum "muh multiverse" shenanigans.
She's captain marvel's black friend from the captain marvel movie. In this universe she got the powers instead. She's also much more of a hood rat in this universe. She only Jas a few lines and she reads them like she's on a porch in Baltimore talking shit to her baby daddy. I don't remember her character being so ghetto in captain marvel.
2 years ago
Anonymous
It's Marvel's black friend from her movie.
I legitimately didnt realize it was the lady from captain marvel until I was in one of these threads, they didnt reference who she was at all, and she looked totally different, by which I mean much uglier
2 years ago
Anonymous
should've been her daughter
2 years ago
Anonymous
Of all the "what if this person got the powers instead", Black person captain marvel absolutely noone wanted lmao
>make captain marvel a black woman >make captain America a woman >switch problematic chris Pratt with Twitter favorite Jim >make the other two members of the team handicapped
Now they can beat thanos easily
His power is whatever looks cool or the plot demands
I remember in doctor strange 2 he used his hand to slice off a tentacle from gargantos
made me wonder why he didnt just cut off thanos arm like that in infinity war
In our world we call the comics universe Earth-616. In the world of the MCU (which WE call Earth-199999) they call THEMSELVES Earth-616. Do you also get confused by the idea that Germany is also called Deutschland?
yeah its really fricking stupid. in far from home mysterio, who was just making shit up, said the universe was 616, so how did he know? Or did he just guess a random number and happen to get it right?
The writers aren't that smart. Mysterio said 616, so in the eyes of future writers that's the canon number. This is because MCU writers are stupid and bad at their jobs.
Strange reached Thanos' homeworld after being kidnapped by squidward, Tony and Peter went there to save him.
Now, how the frick did the Strange that had the Dark hold, and killed Thanos with super ultra OP secret powers get kidnapped?
There were all kinds of theories as to why Dr.Strange gave up the time stone and the writers just decided the team should fail. If strange could have opened a portal to earth at ANY TIME. He could have gotten to Thor, told him to cut Thanos's arm/head off. Victory. Basically, 14 million possibilities is too many. They should have just made it so Thanos was immortal thanks to the soul stone. Then using the book of vishanti they destroyed the soul stone, killed thanos.
Where's my million dollars for fixing this franchise?
Endgame didn't even need to do the time heist. They could have just gone back to 2018 when Thanos had an axe in his chest and cut his arm off then. All 6 stones, 1 spot.
why not? It's the same thing they did except everyone travels to the same place, not 3 different times and 6 different places.
2 years ago
Anonymous
nope.
2 years ago
Anonymous
DBZ time travel works the same.
2 years ago
Anonymous
naa dbz was more like BTTF where it created new timelines
2 years ago
Anonymous
No it does not. Trunks is able to return to his future at will. After giving Goku his heart medicine he goes back to his world, and after Cell's defeat returns to the same world again. If DBZ worked like this the world he "returned" to would be wildly different due to his initial journey to the past creating changes in the timeline
2 years ago
Anonymous
that's not what I mean dumbass. I mean "the stones are in the past" just go back to where all 6 are, you don't need to go to NY, asgard, space ect. Just get them from 2018, go back to 2023, use all 6, put them back in 2018.
2 years ago
Anonymous
that would have changed the past moron. They had to sneak the stones so they would go unnoticed to prevent a change
2 years ago
Anonymous
they never planned to return them till hulk agreed too. Thor talking to his mom, loki getting away, a dead BW on voromir, they changed those timelines
2 years ago
Anonymous
Loki getting away is the only thing that changed. all the others did happen off screen
2 years ago
Anonymous
what about when thanos read nebulas mind and came to 2023?
2 years ago
Anonymous
what about nebula giving thanos her return supply of pym particles but she returned anyways.
Endgame is fricking moronic that's why
2 years ago
Anonymous
That actually makes sense, they had years to reverse engineer the particles and send her and then the whole ship to her destination.
2 years ago
Anonymous
That actually makes sense, they had years to reverse engineer the particles and send her and then the whole ship to her destination.
Exactly this. You're thinking in too linear terms, anon.
2 years ago
Anonymous
That actually makes sense, they had years to reverse engineer the particles and send her and then the whole ship to her destination.
except she pulled the ship from 2012. If the 2012 thanos spent years studying it, his 2012 self would then have a future that can't be changed. It worked the first time because they were in a branch reality and that 2012 thanos didnt have a future yet.
2 years ago
Anonymous
If everyone can return to same 2023 universe thanos should be able to jump to it as well. It shouldn't matter if they took 5 seconds or 5 years in their universe. Endgame time travel is multiverse, it just doesn't fully acknowledge that.
2 years ago
Anonymous
If loki got away in in avengers then thor 2 and thor 3 would never happen since loki wouldn't push odin to an hero so hela's would stay hidden, they would also never have the red stone since it happened in thor 2. wtf??
2 years ago
Anonymous
what did he mean by this
2 years ago
Anonymous
It's a sequence of events like:
1-> 4(you after 3, but in the past) -> 2 -> 3(time travel) -> 5(you come back to the present)
Stranges power level is so all over the place he is a tank taking on thanos withb multiple stones solo and doing well. then he is getting his ass kicked by spiderman then he struggles to kill a weird tentacle monster quickly
The implication of the illuminati is that the fantastic 4, x-men, inhumans exist along with the avengers, plus captain marvel being on the titan fight instead of being useless and strange using the darkhold, thanos didn’t have a chance.
In the Marvel world, a universe is something which contains all its own timelines and also multiple dimensions. You're using logic and definitions from other media, you need to speak in terms of the media you're discussing.
No, I'm not. In Doctor Strange: >You think you know how the world works? You think that this material universe is all there is?..... >This universe is only one of an infinite number. Worlds without end. Some benevolent and lifegiving. Others, filled with malice and hunger..... >Who are you in this vast multiverse?
really what is the difference?? did he checked timelines or universes? arent they kinda synonimous?
This multiverse shit is just lazy writing and you know it. Gives them free way to create cheap shock value content to make capeshitters go wow and then everything can be negated by a sinlge jump back to universe number 420.
Comics needed this as corpos are greedy fricks and they wanted 20 different writers with 20 different stories at a time to sell bs.
>did he checked timelines or universes? arent they kinda synonimous?
Timelines. He essentially save-stated his way from the moment he arrived on Titan to see what actions insured they would win.
If he was jumping universes at that point, then Xavier, Blackbolt, and Black Marvel would have mysteriously manifested there too, which they did not.
No. I understand you are confused about it as they function pretty fricking similarly in most fictional writing, but they're still largely separate concepts.
In Endgame, they're all time traveling. In Multiverse of Madness, they're universe hopping. A branched timeline still requires a main timeline to go off on. A separate universe does not need a "main" universe to branch off of.
Timeline is within universe, it is not the multiverse itself.
2 years ago
Anonymous
also, Stranges fiurst movie involves time shit as he introduces it to Dormammu and his dimension, which he fricking hates.
2 years ago
Anonymous
So there's an infinite amount of universes with an infinite amount of timelines? So really nothing matters whatsoever.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Yep, pretty much.
Which is why you should always avoid hopping universe and then time traveling in said universes; It makes for stupid writing that will never be done right.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Time travel 2 years in the past, change a LOT of shit >Hop to another universe in that past >Time travel 2 years in the future in new universe >Hop to another universe >There's a chance were you can land in an universe were the changes you made on your first time travel's past don't exist, effectively going to a universe that's pretty much the same
comicgays want to sound smart but then time traveling and universe hopping are pretty much the exact same shit and can take you to the same potential spot.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Only if that Universe births a Kang, and that Kang starts exploring timelines, and one of them doesn't win over all the others.
It's really up to that.
2 years ago
Anonymous
What generates different universes then? What makes them infinite?
2 years ago
Anonymous
The same thing that generated our Universe?
They just fricking exist, unless there's some sort of unintroduced above-all being that does it all.
2 years ago
Anonymous
God
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Time traveling >Universe hopping >Reality branching >Galaxial switching >Perceptional re-materializing >Existance shifting >Dimensional sidelining >They are all SO different you need to read COMICS to understand everything, literally you mind can't comprehend MY OC's superpower otherwise
2 years ago
Anonymous
hey you should write for comics
2 years ago
Anonymous
The problem with endgame was they bothered to explain what would happen if the avengers took the stones from the past. and to an extent what would happen if they got replaced. that single conversation between the hulk and ancient one is one i have to absolutely re-explain to every fricking person ever who tries to talk about endgame/marvel timelines/universes.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Introducing Multiverses and timelines more or less simultaneously was a mistake.
2 years ago
Anonymous
They had to do it to resolve the issue of how they can take the stones without changing the timeline. By having it explained that they'll put them all.back it fixes the paradox
2 years ago
Anonymous
There are no paradoxes when you're quantum-tunneling to other timelines that have no impact on your own.
why would they make the MCU universe 616? Wouldnt it make way more sense to give it a new number so they could have MCU characters cross over with other comic runs and stuff? Because now we cant even imagine the mcu and the comics being in the same multiverse
Maybe Thanos regained control of himself without him sperging out regardless, I dunno. Strange did the homework and likely one of those was putting Quill to sleep and it still didn't work.
That's one of the worst choices they made. The 616 has been exclusively and primarily the designation for the main comic book timeline/universe. Now everyone from now on is going to think that's the MCU's number when they already had one from fricking years ago. Jesus fricking Christ the incompetence is on another level. Now normies are going to go around spouting even more fake fan bullshit and fake knowledge m
Thanos has been reduced to the quintessential jobber. He's been brought back here and in What If to just to be defeated to demonstrate how powerful the new threat is
It's because Strange had the darkhold you dumbfrick
these idiots can't even keep up with a capeshit marvel movie
no, it's not
>Our Strange did not die defeating Thanos. We were at war. While the rest of us banded together to try to stop Thanos, Stephen, as always, chose to go it alone.
>838 MORDO: He turned to the Dark hold, began Dream walking, in hopes that our salvation might lie in the Multiverse.
>CAPTAIN MARVEL: And guess what? It didn’t. But he kept doing it anyway.
>REED: One night, you called us all together, confessed that you had been Dream walking, and in your words, “Things had gotten out of hand.” You never told us the details of what had happened, only that you had inadvertently triggered an Incursion. You, our friend, had caused the annihilation of another universe. Everyone in that reality died. Everyone.
>PROF CHARLES XAVIER: Stephen renounced the Darkhold’s evil and helped us find The Book of Vishanti, a weapon we did use together to defeat Thanos.
incursions are some of the more moronic shit of the modern capeshit
this is the same movie franchise that started with iron man 1 in afghanistan let that sink in
Within your life time there'll be an anniversary Disney+ edition where the action is moved to Latveria, and Terrence Howard is replaced with a deepfake Don Cheadle.
I unironically like that though, the MCU started out very grounded and then went full-moron with the cosmic wizard shit.
So basically every comic superhero series in history, but teleported to the movie/television screen
All they had to do was cut his fricking arm off with the glove on.
They had him completely vulnerable and the opportunity.
Oh wow it's almost like they explicitly stated this wasn't the case in the exposition dump.
Its basically a Utopia because early on the world was given a strong british female that defeated the nazis rather than some cis white male. Progressivism became mainstream in the 40s and continued until they reached a near perfect society.
>muh chudhold
Damn you chuds waste your time obsessing over something that isn’t even real haha lifeless capechuds
Damn, multiverses are moronic and gay.
>DCdrone thinks multiverses are too complex
You cant be makeing this shit up
SAD
no, its just moronic. its makes everything inconsequential. its a cheap trick of the same magnitude as "it was all just a dream"
and as far as i recall DC has multiverse shit as well. american comics in general suck dick hard.
This is correct opinion.
Same with time travel tech
>inconsequential
No, idiot. If you die, even if you get "replaced" it isn't you. Also, you can't do this as was explained in Dr Strange 2 because the universes try to merge. You fricking pissant mind.
but it isn't me, its a character in a fictional setting. Said fictional setting and characters have no stakes if they can be replaced by an exact replica the moment they die. It makes the viewer not care about consequences.
>exact replica
No wonder you can't enjoy it lmao you're stupid.
You could just find the multiverse where everything is the same except [insert bad thing] didn't happen.
Wouldn't that be potentially impossible if there's an infinite number of universes?
Jokes on you I live in the universe that discovered the technology to make it really easy to find the universe I'm looking for.
if strange can search 14 million in a couple minutes, no
It depends on how varied things are in each Universe I guess and how well you can filter it to Universes where the timelines are more or less the same to the point where you exist. Also how fast you're able to search.
All capeshit is gay. Imagine arguing over baby things. homosexuals.
are you legitimately brain damaged? DC started this shit in their comics and it's most expansive
>Muh DEE CEE's BEEBEECEE is ramming my marvchud brain to death
Dc literally made multiverses you pleb.
the Disney version is yes. Heinlein came up with this shit ages ago when he postulated World as Myth.
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TheWorldAsMyth
This Roberta Heinlein seems pretty cool for a woman. The concept reminds me of Myst and its linking books.
Anything to justify incest and and old man ending up with a hot young redhead.
damn I'm gonna read this now, I already like Heinlein and sounds kino, thanks anons
>infinite multiverse
>no anime isekai universe
>just being in another universe is enough to destroy it a.k.a. incursion
Why even bother?
>Millions of universes
>Two of the most prominent ones are only triple digit numbers
What are the odds of that?
It's almost like they're cataloguing and numbering them as they're discovered, you fricking moron
>they are cataloged and assigned numbers sequentially at first contact dipshit
Then how the frick is the universe that's labeling them not number 1, you fricks?
because that's not the first one discovering them
>we are cataloguing and numbering the universes as we discover them, yours is 616 and ours is 838
Obviously they cataloged 222 other universes in between the two dumbfrick
They forgot to catalog their own universe. It was very embarrassing around the office.
It's almost like no one fricking asked for your input nerd.
maybe they are close to each other, hence their numbers aren't far off
they are cataloged and assigned numbers sequentially at first contact dipshit
whose point of reference are they using, moron
the writers.
if you come to think about it, there are probably more universes where humanity never existed, or it was wiped out by anything
considering how random planetary location is, i'd say in most of the multiverse there are no earths... or suns... the problem is that multiverse means infinite universes... which means, there's no "majority" of anything in infinity.
infinity and multiverses are a very, very shitty thing for low level TV/movies like this.
>millions
it's an infinite number
pretty stupid shit
>infinate universes
s so your saying their;s a chance that in one of theese unimaginable uncountable unprovable improbable completly hypothetical reductionist thoretical realms that have no standing anyware in nature and no realisation even in imagination that just maybe somewhere theres a good marvel movie
Anon i find you absurd and should immediately report to your local inquisitor for study
Learn to spell, moron
learn to properly detract from an argument made in jest drone
I'm pretty sure all the universes are the same up until humans or other intelligent life start meddling.
But yeah multiverses are stupid and a complete cop out.
What you're "pretty sure" about is irrelevant you worthless moron. We literally saw that not all universes are the same. Some don't have human life (bee world), and some don't have an earth at all (living tribunal realm, the one right after it that looked like a black hole in an empty plane)
Try paying attention before sharing your braindead opinion homosexual
Maybe it's canon there's infinite universes but it'd be better if there wasn't infinite universes just a shit load of them. So it's not the case that every possible thing has happened somewhere making it all inconsequential.
>Ah yes, let us refer to the 838th universe we have just discovered as Universe #748272930bn88kl0982765433nb876433200997778136484959402826482747372548jnk8765555555
We would actually do something like this. We wouldn't number them in the order they were discovered, we'd try to define them by their properties.
t. bio major
there's too many of them
they gotta start doubling up after 1000 or so
They got to name them, sperg.
The odds of them sharing any similarities are vastly low, you stupid frick. The number is the least of it.
It's made by the same people who are telling you 6 million of them were counted with five digit tattoos.
based and KEKED
People have 6 and 7 digit tattoos. The Nazis weren't autistic enough to tattoo 0013444 on someone.
fake post war tattoos
Well If I can't trust Anonymous to spot fake news, who can I trust!
>7 digit tattoos
You won't mind posting a few of those don't ya? It's for a research
wat There is no such post.
all the good ones have whites or asians in charge, the millions of useless ones are the brown ones
>>Two of the most prominent ones are only triple digit numbers
What information lead you to make this assumption
I do NOT get it but Wrong board
why is one more prominent than another
I have no idea what any of this means you slackjawed capeshit loving zoomer moron
Same
Imagine watching this shite
>Imagine watching this shite
i don't have to
_gigachad-void???
It's the Gigalarity.
was thanos planet built to be wheelchair accessible?
no that's why he had to die
Where we’re going we don’t need ramps
But what about 838 Tony?
Killed by Ultron who eventually became good
who the frick is white man hero
He got put out of business by the illuminatis efforts to create a peaceful society.
He was still peddlings missiles, never wound up in a cave. Only a millionaire not a billionaire.
Not an inventor only an alcoholic.
I haven’t watched a marvel since iron man 1. I have a question. Is anyone in this picture a real human, or are they all 3d models?
Real faces and heads attached to CGI bodies, but yeah
So when Strange saw all these possibilities the Universe 838 wasn't seen because they didn't have Xavier and Black Bolt?
no, tony survives in 838 so he kept looking
based
He really hated Tony, searching through millions of futures so only he and Widow were killed.
Strange saw possibilities for his own universe. When they time travel in Endgame they are traveling in time within their own universe
It's because there was no book of vishanti in Stranges Universe.
Are you a moron or what?
Multiverse and alternate timelines are different things, even though they function similarly in most stories.
No he saw it, he just didn’t want to remind everyone that the inhumans existed after their flop of a show
He was looking for a timeline where he didn't die, he found 1 but it required Tony to die
That's fair, Strange made it outright clear he wasn't there to save their lives over winning.
this is still the universe where kang destroyed any universe that wasn't the prime universe
'Prime universe' is a shitty midwit concept. No universe should ever have primacy over any other universe, especially if there are an infinite number of universes.
The universe where I impregnated my mother.
he who remain died, so there's no more prime or "scared timeline" anymore, so i guess they fixed that
The scared timeline? What's that?
It's no wonder they jobbed to Wanda so much if they were so shit that they needed Doctor Strange with 2 magic books to beat Thanos when they had 3 of the most powerful super heroes. Their universes heroes had to have been severely underpowered.
>is just 616+222
>616
You mean 199999, right?
No, seperate multiverse to comics so this is the 616 of the cinematic multiverse
I hate marvel shit, I don't understand.
Why didn't Blacked Boltyrone disintegrate Thanos with his girly screams?
Thanos can tank those
how do power levels even work in marvel?
They don't
Putting all forms of strength into some blanket "power level" completely ruins every fiction that does it.
My problem is there are so many forms of power (magic, psionic, raw strength, etc) that its never clear what overrides what and you just have to accept outcomes when characters fight each other, but that sort of takes out the tension of the fight.
Yeah, that's the problem. There is no nuance regarding different types of power at all. Whatever power a character does have just gets added together and set at a "power level" or "tier," then the only thing that matters is how that level compares to the opponent's.
For example, if Character A has some super high psychic power but has zero physical strength, they will be able to tank punches from Character B who's a superpowered body builder as long as Character B's "power level" is "below" Character A's. It's fricking simplified bullshit that removes all actual thought for the writers and lets them just not consider anything other than some cumulative tier comparison.
it will never work because authors don't read each other nor care about internal consistency.
In a comic you have Punisher breaking every bone of his hand for punching Spidey's jaw (which btw didn't absolutely nothing to Spider-man) and in the next one you have Punisher tanking Juggernauth punches and at worst have a bruise. Is just a contest for who cares less about the comics and puts the biggest asspull.
Imagine as if all Marvel/DC authors were Kubo Tite.
Very carefully
They don't, and they fluctuate wildly even for individual characters. In another comic Black Bolt could fight ultra Thanos and one shot him because of some bullshit explanation that won't carry over to the next writer anyway. It's the nature of autism + multiple authors.
the same way7 the work in every hack writeing
>they are weak enough to be interesting when they need to be and strong enough to win when they need to be
and they add *multi verse* basically the DLC of comics for re-skins and shit so every hero is the strongest
so the 8 year old kid who really really likes hawkeye becauses hes a fuking moron and his dad gave him a bow for christmass gets to read a book where hawkeye is the strongest
its total dogshit just ignore it all
>hulk is super strong
>but iron man makes a suit to fight hult
like its stupid
doctor strange fights entire universes
>but some guy who needs a glove to le troony the universe dominates him
it makes no sense when you look at it in terms of actual events ect just enjoy your fun books
they don't but this is not a real comic it's even worse, some "event" garbage or other, maybe some whatif alternate shite
basically writers are homosexuals and go with the first "epic shit bro!" they come up with
As soon as power levels can be applied to a setting, the action and stakes have become unsalvageable.
Writers go:
>character I like
Strong
>character I dislike
Weak
should have called Squirrel Girl
Is this supposed to be a joke
It's 100% serious
the running theme is that squirell girl taking out these big bads alone, but then some other homosexual writer recons it as a clone or robot, so now they preemtively write in "this is actually the real one".
it's a dick measuring contest of the saddest kind.
that sounds really funny though, less dick measuring and more shittiing on power level autists
yes.
Why is Thanos bent over like he just got fricked by squirrel girls gorilla wiener?
yeah, he should be doing the family guy pose.
the what?
or the cops
If the scream breaks the armor but not him, why wear armor at all?
Cause he doesn't want to walk around nekkid
You're thinking about damage as a binary.
yes it either breaks something or it doesn't
>punch you in the face
>your helmet absorbs 80% of the damage and breaks
>you get hit by the other 20%
>hurr the helmet broke it's useless
>I punch you again
>your dumb face gets 100% of the damage and breaks
pretty sure it's just for design. Otherwise, he's just Purple Hulk.
but thanos has no helmet in that picture so basically your a homosexual
You can literally see the leftovers of the helmet fricking fricktard I guess you don't need one because there's no brain to protect anyway
again, it's entirely for design.
those are headphones
There are only two genders.
Because he's not fighting an infinite number of black bolts moron.
He fights other enemies that aren't tearing through his armor.
arhgjkvdfsandsfklnfdlk who fricking cares
>838 jobs to diversity hire tier jobbers
just how weak was he?
616 Thanos was already getting manhandled by Captain Marvel so I imagine it wasn't too hard for the 838 Marvel to do the same, plus Strange was there.
But that was pure girl boss wank bs
They didn’t have a black woman to help them in 616.
I thought 616 was the mainline comic universe?
you wife mainlines horse wiener
yes, MCU is like 199999 or something.
>MCU and Comics both share 616
Fricking moronic
>be reed richards smartest man in the universe
>tell some magick witch that blackbolt uses his mouth to destroy anything
not so smart
I had no idea who the purple woman was it should have been Magik
Based Starro taking over the shitty Marvel multiverse starting with 838
Why universe 838 was not the 001 since they were the first to register the multiverses?
you mean 1
because why not 0001 ect
who cares dude its some comic writers in joke its prbably the last 3 digits on his Ex's credit card
because DC is 1-52
maybe universe 001 found 838 first and told them their number
838 probably didn't have Star Lord there to mess everything up
captain marvel and professor x obviously made the difference
>make Captain Marvel a man
>add a white man
>now the team is competent enough to beat Thanos
Like poetry.
captain marvel is a black woman though
Seriously? That's a woman? I assumed they were doing the whole "Whoa, new universe is so different and opposite" and then race-swapped and gender-swapped her for maximum "muh multiverse" shenanigans.
It's Marvel's black friend from her movie.
She's captain marvel's black friend from the captain marvel movie. In this universe she got the powers instead. She's also much more of a hood rat in this universe. She only Jas a few lines and she reads them like she's on a porch in Baltimore talking shit to her baby daddy. I don't remember her character being so ghetto in captain marvel.
I legitimately didnt realize it was the lady from captain marvel until I was in one of these threads, they didnt reference who she was at all, and she looked totally different, by which I mean much uglier
should've been her daughter
Of all the "what if this person got the powers instead", Black person captain marvel absolutely noone wanted lmao
>make captain marvel a black woman
>make captain America a woman
>switch problematic chris Pratt with Twitter favorite Jim
>make the other two members of the team handicapped
Now they can beat thanos easily
Does anyone understand doctor strange's power?
They are rather strange
His power is whatever looks cool or the plot demands
I remember in doctor strange 2 he used his hand to slice off a tentacle from gargantos
made me wonder why he didnt just cut off thanos arm like that in infinity war
U1488 must be paradise
I assume the israelites visited and intentionally caused an incursion.
>The MCU is 616
Gayest still to come from that movie.
what the frick is even happening any more
how come Titan isn't all fricked up in 838? Wasn't Thanos' whole motivation that his planet succumbed to overpopulation and exploded or whatever
It very clearly is.
all those fricking star implements everywhere are intact in the bottom image
The center one is clearly falling apart, let alone all the debris scattered around. I don't think they're supposed to be on the ground, either.
I bet universe 2318008 is hot
why wouldn't redhead chick name her universe 00001 or something
>NOOOOO MANTIS DON’T WRAP YOUR THIGHS AROUND MY HEAD I CAN SMELL YOUR INSECT PUSSY AAAAAAAAH STOOOOOOP
>The comics universe is referred to 616
>MCU is now also 616, despite being particularly different from the comics.
don't like that
if captain americat had the wings, where would they go?
I dunno
if styderman had the armpit webs, where would they do?
>left armpit: SOME
>right armpit: PIG
Charlotte gave him his powers.
>Black person is a pig
White is a cat
Confirmed that blacks and whites are different species.
>He doesn't know about Spiderham
Doombros, we walked right into it!
would smash
In our world we call the comics universe Earth-616. In the world of the MCU (which WE call Earth-199999) they call THEMSELVES Earth-616. Do you also get confused by the idea that Germany is also called Deutschland?
Really, it's because comic book writers, let alone writers for the movies, don't really care about the details because in the end comics are stupid.
>which WE call Earth-199999
where was that decided? is there comic/mcu crossover shit?
It was decided years ago, soon after the MCU was established. You can look up that number and find more info on various wikis.
yeah its really fricking stupid. in far from home mysterio, who was just making shit up, said the universe was 616, so how did he know? Or did he just guess a random number and happen to get it right?
The writers aren't that smart. Mysterio said 616, so in the eyes of future writers that's the canon number. This is because MCU writers are stupid and bad at their jobs.
they should get the marvel CGI pajeets to make a few more of these thanos battles with different heroes. i wanna see how it would go
Who is the guy on his knees in universe 838?
Dr Strange, did you not watch the movie?
I did not. I stopped with Endgame.
Not against it, it's just not my thing.
>black panter strong enough to grab Thanos arm
lol what a pussy universe that's true
where is Black panther in this picture
wait then who's grabbing thanos left arm?
c'mon dude, use your eyes and memory of endgame. BP wasn't there whatsoever.
all blacks(uits) looks the same the frick i know
It's not even black.
I have to assume you have color blindness of some sort.
>photoposters strike again
if you mean phone poster, a phone poster would still be able to zoom in the picture.
Strange reached Thanos' homeworld after being kidnapped by squidward, Tony and Peter went there to save him.
Now, how the frick did the Strange that had the Dark hold, and killed Thanos with super ultra OP secret powers get kidnapped?
huh, i guess universe 838 had a the IP rights to the right franchises that made the fight easier. whodathunk
>Captain Marvel, Strange and Black Bolt before Thanos has the last two Stones
Did they really need the Darkhold??
There were all kinds of theories as to why Dr.Strange gave up the time stone and the writers just decided the team should fail. If strange could have opened a portal to earth at ANY TIME. He could have gotten to Thor, told him to cut Thanos's arm/head off. Victory. Basically, 14 million possibilities is too many. They should have just made it so Thanos was immortal thanks to the soul stone. Then using the book of vishanti they destroyed the soul stone, killed thanos.
Where's my million dollars for fixing this franchise?
There was nothing to indicate he can portal off world
When they are flying the ship doctor strange is like "can you get us home?" To Tony
>There was nothing to indicate he can portal off world
at the time of IW coming out, correct. Endgame shat all over that.
It was the only thing that made sense. Then Endgame happened.
Endgame didn't even need to do the time heist. They could have just gone back to 2018 when Thanos had an axe in his chest and cut his arm off then. All 6 stones, 1 spot.
wouldnt have worked with their moronic time rules
why not? It's the same thing they did except everyone travels to the same place, not 3 different times and 6 different places.
nope.
DBZ time travel works the same.
naa dbz was more like BTTF where it created new timelines
No it does not. Trunks is able to return to his future at will. After giving Goku his heart medicine he goes back to his world, and after Cell's defeat returns to the same world again. If DBZ worked like this the world he "returned" to would be wildly different due to his initial journey to the past creating changes in the timeline
that's not what I mean dumbass. I mean "the stones are in the past" just go back to where all 6 are, you don't need to go to NY, asgard, space ect. Just get them from 2018, go back to 2023, use all 6, put them back in 2018.
that would have changed the past moron. They had to sneak the stones so they would go unnoticed to prevent a change
they never planned to return them till hulk agreed too. Thor talking to his mom, loki getting away, a dead BW on voromir, they changed those timelines
Loki getting away is the only thing that changed. all the others did happen off screen
what about when thanos read nebulas mind and came to 2023?
what about nebula giving thanos her return supply of pym particles but she returned anyways.
Endgame is fricking moronic that's why
That actually makes sense, they had years to reverse engineer the particles and send her and then the whole ship to her destination.
Exactly this. You're thinking in too linear terms, anon.
except she pulled the ship from 2012. If the 2012 thanos spent years studying it, his 2012 self would then have a future that can't be changed. It worked the first time because they were in a branch reality and that 2012 thanos didnt have a future yet.
If everyone can return to same 2023 universe thanos should be able to jump to it as well. It shouldn't matter if they took 5 seconds or 5 years in their universe. Endgame time travel is multiverse, it just doesn't fully acknowledge that.
If loki got away in in avengers then thor 2 and thor 3 would never happen since loki wouldn't push odin to an hero so hela's would stay hidden, they would also never have the red stone since it happened in thor 2. wtf??
what did he mean by this
It's a sequence of events like:
1-> 4(you after 3, but in the past) -> 2 -> 3(time travel) -> 5(you come back to the present)
Stranges power level is so all over the place he is a tank taking on thanos withb multiple stones solo and doing well. then he is getting his ass kicked by spiderman then he struggles to kill a weird tentacle monster quickly
>then he struggles to kill a weird tentacle monster quickly
I hated that moronic scene, par for the course for the movie
The implication of the illuminati is that the fantastic 4, x-men, inhumans exist along with the avengers, plus captain marvel being on the titan fight instead of being useless and strange using the darkhold, thanos didn’t have a chance.
Didnt that homosexual wienerroach capeshitter checked '150million other timelines' and they lost in all of it???
capeshitters never change. they are the most fricking stupid low iq shitstains. they ruined movies.
another universe is not another timeline.
That's exactly what it means. Every time anyone time travels they create a new reality.
If you take the logic of the first Doctor Strange movie all of magical planes he goes to are different dimensions.
In the Marvel world, a universe is something which contains all its own timelines and also multiple dimensions. You're using logic and definitions from other media, you need to speak in terms of the media you're discussing.
No, I'm not. In Doctor Strange:
>You think you know how the world works? You think that this material universe is all there is?.....
>This universe is only one of an infinite number. Worlds without end. Some benevolent and lifegiving. Others, filled with malice and hunger.....
>Who are you in this vast multiverse?
really what is the difference?? did he checked timelines or universes? arent they kinda synonimous?
This multiverse shit is just lazy writing and you know it. Gives them free way to create cheap shock value content to make capeshitters go wow and then everything can be negated by a sinlge jump back to universe number 420.
Comics needed this as corpos are greedy fricks and they wanted 20 different writers with 20 different stories at a time to sell bs.
>did he checked timelines or universes? arent they kinda synonimous?
Timelines. He essentially save-stated his way from the moment he arrived on Titan to see what actions insured they would win.
If he was jumping universes at that point, then Xavier, Blackbolt, and Black Marvel would have mysteriously manifested there too, which they did not.
Timelines are universes according to Endgame.
no, those are branching timelines.
...which means universe.
No. I understand you are confused about it as they function pretty fricking similarly in most fictional writing, but they're still largely separate concepts.
In Endgame, they're all time traveling. In Multiverse of Madness, they're universe hopping. A branched timeline still requires a main timeline to go off on. A separate universe does not need a "main" universe to branch off of.
Timeline is within universe, it is not the multiverse itself.
also, Stranges fiurst movie involves time shit as he introduces it to Dormammu and his dimension, which he fricking hates.
So there's an infinite amount of universes with an infinite amount of timelines? So really nothing matters whatsoever.
Yep, pretty much.
Which is why you should always avoid hopping universe and then time traveling in said universes; It makes for stupid writing that will never be done right.
>Time travel 2 years in the past, change a LOT of shit
>Hop to another universe in that past
>Time travel 2 years in the future in new universe
>Hop to another universe
>There's a chance were you can land in an universe were the changes you made on your first time travel's past don't exist, effectively going to a universe that's pretty much the same
comicgays want to sound smart but then time traveling and universe hopping are pretty much the exact same shit and can take you to the same potential spot.
Only if that Universe births a Kang, and that Kang starts exploring timelines, and one of them doesn't win over all the others.
It's really up to that.
What generates different universes then? What makes them infinite?
The same thing that generated our Universe?
They just fricking exist, unless there's some sort of unintroduced above-all being that does it all.
God
>Time traveling
>Universe hopping
>Reality branching
>Galaxial switching
>Perceptional re-materializing
>Existance shifting
>Dimensional sidelining
>They are all SO different you need to read COMICS to understand everything, literally you mind can't comprehend MY OC's superpower otherwise
hey you should write for comics
The problem with endgame was they bothered to explain what would happen if the avengers took the stones from the past. and to an extent what would happen if they got replaced. that single conversation between the hulk and ancient one is one i have to absolutely re-explain to every fricking person ever who tries to talk about endgame/marvel timelines/universes.
Introducing Multiverses and timelines more or less simultaneously was a mistake.
They had to do it to resolve the issue of how they can take the stones without changing the timeline. By having it explained that they'll put them all.back it fixes the paradox
There are no paradoxes when you're quantum-tunneling to other timelines that have no impact on your own.
I believe it was 14 trillion, and he was only checking timelines within his own universe.
Why? Capeshit is stupid
How come alternates look the same except for Peter?
why would they make the MCU universe 616? Wouldnt it make way more sense to give it a new number so they could have MCU characters cross over with other comic runs and stuff? Because now we cant even imagine the mcu and the comics being in the same multiverse
>oh no Stephen sacrificed one universe to say 99% of the rest of them then sacrificed himself incase he got corrupted by dark magic
>FINNA 616 DOCTOR STRANGE GET DA FK OUTAH HERE *SMACKS LIP*
who writes this shit
hat are you even shitposting about
maybe watch the flick you absolute moron
Wouldn't both universes be universe 1 since they don't know about other universes? Who catalogs the universes?
is there a reason why Marvel uses the number of the beast for their main universe?
the difference was chris pratt ruining everything right? or am i misremembering?
It did seem that way, yes.
Maybe Thanos regained control of himself without him sperging out regardless, I dunno. Strange did the homework and likely one of those was putting Quill to sleep and it still didn't work.
even if they get the gauntlet away, Thanos is still tougher than dual wielding Thor, and might be able to get it right back?
Though admittedly he'd have no defense against Strange mirroring him or the gauntlet at that point.
Where are the Eternals?
back to the drawing board since they had a shitty movie that nobody even remembers.
how's that "I kill you with whisper" supe guy usefull in that scenario, when Thanos is clearly killed by his own sword?
might have staggered him and shattered his helmet/armor?
and then proffesor X ran him over? yea sure...this filck was a perfect example of "just turn your brain off, bro"
Then you came ready!
He did the same thing that Mantis did, probably.
this.
I had a friend tell me it was awesome, so I watch the first capeshit I have seen since endgame. It was abject garbage, beginning to end...
If his helmet is broken by black bolt, then Prof X could easily subdue him mentally
Disorientation and probably hits fricking hard, considering Strange was atomized by him.
Against thanos his voice probably won't kill him but it would incapacitate him somewhat making him vulnerable to attack from the others
Why doesn't Disney just buy the DC heroes?
Doesn't the new boss is basically trying to cut all the fat from company?
Monopoly laws, except lol the gov doesn't enforce them anymore so why did I even bother.
Monopoly laws don't care about studios buying studios. They care about studios buying theaters and Cable companies and other hardware.
As if Disney can't just pay off the system to avoid the monopoly law
Which universe are we from Cinemaphile ?
Earth-1218
https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Earth-1218
How can I migrate to earth-616?
Find a mexican teen with a nice ass and see what happens.
a rope, a tree and a dream
What happened to universe 199999.
That's what we call the MCU, not what they call themselves.
That's one of the worst choices they made. The 616 has been exclusively and primarily the designation for the main comic book timeline/universe. Now everyone from now on is going to think that's the MCU's number when they already had one from fricking years ago. Jesus fricking Christ the incompetence is on another level. Now normies are going to go around spouting even more fake fan bullshit and fake knowledge m
Okay but where is my infinite 2D anime waifu universe?
thats not 616
Has anyone noticed that the numbers for both of those universes are palindromic?
What's Universe 1?
>adults watching comic book movies
Thanos has been reduced to the quintessential jobber. He's been brought back here and in What If to just to be defeated to demonstrate how powerful the new threat is
>this thread
I am so fricking glad I never got into comics or anime
What multiverse number is she in?
no1 cause shes the best.