Death Battle

>80 iq babble

Superman? Venom tier.

Almost like... Superman had different writers across the years...

>hyperbole
>HYPERverse
>"Characters or objects that can universally affect, create and/or destroy structures whose size is equivalent to a countably infinite number of qualitative sizes above a universal model, usually represented in fiction by endless hierarchies of layers of existence, each succeeding one completely trivializing the previous into insignificance, or more generally a space with countably infinite dimensions."
you just prove them right

thanks

If that's the only response you can muster, I'm glad you realize the absurdity of your viewpoint. You can't actually prove shit and need to abstract it like everything else in fiction.

So if an author says a big tree is actually a collection of realities, you'd buy it because author intent is king?
Holy fricking balls anon, welcome to abstraction.

nta but authorial intent aka Word of God should only really be taken into context with actual writing backing it up as part of the story, at least enough to actually support said statements

An author saying "this tree is a multiversal collection of realities" when by all accounts it's just a normal tree then take that with a grain of salt, but an author saying that and then depicting the tree as a World Tree or something and having people actively fighting over getting control of the tree or showing that cutting off a branch explodes a different timeline or something actually gives the statement a foundation

This frickers really trying to liken the validity of feats and statements LOL

bait used to be believable

Do you think a rat dealing a fatal blow on a human makes the rat a human’s equivalent in every single physical category

What large country did Kratos destroy with his own fists

I've never seen anyone ever say shit like Goku being able to use Buu's candy beam because he scales higher. Nobody scales abilities like this, only stats.

I mean Death Battle made Stitch MFTL for flying a spaceship and Rocket as fast as his own tools for some reason so I wouldnt throw out there are people that moronic

>All those normie spaceship cops are mftl speed now
>Every normie in Red Squadron from Star Wars is MFTL now

That's fair if similar characters have the same capability. Like giving Vegeta SSG before it was officially confirmed he can do it.

He's a saiyan anon. Are you going to argue race intrinsic abilities aren't a thing?

what a neat argument.
Batman has the Speedforce because both he and Flash are humans?
I don't see a reason not to believe that Batman couldn't have been struck by lightning around those chemicals, after all, they are both humans right?

Yes, so he should from now on be considered to have speedforce powers because he can strap Flash to his car.

I'm saying because he CAN get those powers, he should be given those powers in Death Battles, just like how Silver CAN become Super in Archie but never does in the actual comic.
It's like giving the Infinity Gauntlet to any Marvel Character because they CAN use it.

This sounds desperate.
Super Archie Silver is a character that DOES NOT EXIST.
If Dragonball ended after Freeza, would you really be trying to say "Well Gohan and Vegeta could totally also go Super Saiyan!"?
Sure, later material shows it happening, but you can't just assume shit.

My comparison is fine.
Your comparison is gay.
You are gay.
Silver has no Super Form.

>Super Archie Silver is a character that DOES NOT EXIST.
WoG says he does through. The events of 06 did happen in Archie (and then were retconned out due to Time Travel).

I don't really give a shit who wins, so whatever.
Also, wasn't Ian's point more about it being unfair to give Silver the Chaos Emeralds? Which is a different conversation.

No, that goes for pretty much every character.
Do you let Thanos have the Infinity Gauntlet or not? What equipment do any of the Supergeniuses get to bring with them? What about non-standart forms? How do you treat RPG characters?
These kinds of questions are really up to the person's opinion on what is fair.

>Do you let Thanos have the Infinity Gauntlet or not?
I'm a Thanosgay, but you really shouldn't. He came up with the idea but they aren't standard equipment. In fact the individual stones ARE standard equipment on OTHER characters.

That's actually a good point. I feel like unique equipment that is used by multiple different characters should have extra restriction in these discussions. Like, Link using the Master Sword is easy to accept because he's the dude who uses the Master Sword. But multiple characters use things like the Chaos Emeralds and Soul Gems.

That's moronic, the speedforce is an intrinsic part of Flash, the emeralds are not an intrinsic part of Sonic

>Super Archie Silver is a character
Stopped reading there, it's a FORM, not a fricking character you dumbass

I thought Ian Flynn himself stated that super Archie silver was bs?

No he said Silver getting chaos emeralds and those time gems by default was unfair and bullshit. Then again Trunks got his cards and awakened keysword hax so whatever

Superman has whole abilities that other Kryptonians don't have, like the red/blue forms.

Time just gives Superman more abilities othe Kryptonians don't have. Like that giant energy body he summoned in that newer comic with metallo.

>Toyo shit
never come back

Your example was never really a point of contention though because he had Blue the moment it was revealed to be a thing.
It's more like people assuming Hulk can regenerate from literally nothing because Leader did, which is a genuine point of contention.

Never appeared in the story you mean.

Marvel Hercules > GoW Hercules

Yeah and Kratos dies to a bonk on the head. You don’t wanna play this game

You really don't. A comic character has a 100 to 1 anti-feat ratio with any other medium.

jobs to galaxy level reality warping

Very likely
Notice how the only prominent reality warper is a room level shitter
Nasu is afraid of the strongest power in fiction

>changes one little thing in time
Genuine trashbin reality warping
Nasu is afraid

(Yes, in this specific case, Fate's King Arthur is actually a man, because it's the AU/Original version.)

It's more like
>Alters fixed point in time
>Every single other timeline that exists because they ALL rely on that one specific moment occurs is erased
It's a timeline thing. By overturning fixed points in time in the Nasuverse, you need to obliterate EVERY timeline, that was what Goetia's plan was in FGO Part 1, he wanted to create a world where death didn't exist, but the only way to do that was to destroy every single timeline there was.

Well they can, but the planet/will of humanity deletes them for being a waste of resources. That's what the Cosmos in the Lostbelt arc of FGO is about. The Lostbelts are all failed/doomed timelines where humanity doesn't prosper that WOULD have been purged from existence by the will of humanity, but are kept manifested by a Fantasy Tree.
The Second Part of FGO is you basically acting as the Time Reaper and going around obliterating entire timelines for the crime of wanting to persist and continue surviving despite insurmountable odds.
The Main Character of FGO has committed omnicide like 7 times now.

In case you're wondering what each Lostbelt is (You probably aren't)
1) Meteorite impacts the planet, throwing off orbit and throwing the Earth into a perpetual winter, the only survivors are the Russians, who fused themselves with animals to create a new race.
2) Surtur eats Fenrir, acquires his powers, and nearly wins Ragnarok, Odin is forced to sacrifice his life to seal away Surtur in a false sun and Ragnarok is never concluded. The remainder of humanity are raised in camps and given as sacrifices to the giants.
3) China wins, Qin Shi Huang becomes an immortal, conquers the planet, builds a great wall of china in space around the planet, and makes the entire rest of the entire world grow wheat.
4) Extremely moronic Indian shit, the entire indian Pantheon fuses with Arjuna, who is just fricking around resetting the universe over and over again, erasing every imperfection he finds from every loop.
5) When the White Titan (Nasuverse's version of the thing that fricked up all the Gods) comes to Earth, rather than frick up the Greeks like it was meant to after fricking up the rest of the Gods, Zeus fuses with the rest of the Greek Pantheon to steal their powers (They're all spaceships don't question it) and manages to draw with the White Titan and draw it off instead, allowing for total Greek God Domination into the 2000s
6) That same White Titan from before wasn't stopped at all this time, and wipes the surface of the planet of EVERYTHING because the fairies didn't feel like forging Excalibur. The fairies then manage to make a copy of britain alone on the entire planet to live on through fricking with some surviving dieties.
7) The Chicxulub Meteor arrival is changed, and it arrived 250 million years ago rather than 66 million years ago, so the dinosaurs weren't wiped out and were instead empowered because of magic bullshit, humanity still existed as like, a very small civilization, but they sacrificed themselves to make a God Emperor to kill an alien.

so it's just 8 earths stacked? and that "" anti solar system"" fraud couldn't break it?
lmao

my apologies
8 galaxies stacked

>universes
>multiple galaxies
hmmmmm

The saddest part is you can swank the barely existent cancer timelines to full universes and it doesn't move the needle for Fate characters at all.8 universes is cripple tier in today's environment. You might as well be planet level.

>Another Chuuni trying to step up to the plate
WHEN YOU DIE, WHERE'S YOUR GOD

isn't Mereum's most popular opponent Kars?

Every timeline in Blazblue is an alternate universe. So take that as you will.

In case you're wondering what each Lostbelt is (You probably aren't)
1) Meteorite impacts the planet, throwing off orbit and throwing the Earth into a perpetual winter, the only survivors are the Russians, who fused themselves with animals to create a new race.
2) Surtur eats Fenrir, acquires his powers, and nearly wins Ragnarok, Odin is forced to sacrifice his life to seal away Surtur in a false sun and Ragnarok is never concluded. The remainder of humanity are raised in camps and given as sacrifices to the giants.
3) China wins, Qin Shi Huang becomes an immortal, conquers the planet, builds a great wall of china in space around the planet, and makes the entire rest of the entire world grow wheat.
4) Extremely moronic Indian shit, the entire indian Pantheon fuses with Arjuna, who is just fricking around resetting the universe over and over again, erasing every imperfection he finds from every loop.
5) When the White Titan (Nasuverse's version of the thing that fricked up all the Gods) comes to Earth, rather than frick up the Greeks like it was meant to after fricking up the rest of the Gods, Zeus fuses with the rest of the Greek Pantheon to steal their powers (They're all spaceships don't question it) and manages to draw with the White Titan and draw it off instead, allowing for total Greek God Domination into the 2000s
6) That same White Titan from before wasn't stopped at all this time, and wipes the surface of the planet of EVERYTHING because the fairies didn't feel like forging Excalibur. The fairies then manage to make a copy of britain alone on the entire planet to live on through fricking with some surviving dieties.
7) The Chicxulub Meteor arrival is changed, and it arrived 250 million years ago rather than 66 million years ago, so the dinosaurs weren't wiped out and were instead empowered because of magic bullshit, humanity still existed as like, a very small civilization, but they sacrificed themselves to make a God Emperor to kill an alien.

so it's just 8 earths stacked? and that "" anti solar system"" fraud couldn't break it?
lmao

>We can't support 8 alternate Earths, it depletes our finite resources
The elder gods in Bokurano were stronger than this shit.

Otto's opinions are worthless, don't bother

I mean, Earth in the Nasuverse contains multiple layers of existence Avalon, which is 6th Dimensional.
So that's a 6D Blackhole.

The meteor that created the Chicxulub Crater was actually the Aztec pantheon of gods hitching a ride, actually.
Basically, the surface of the planet can contain multiple universes that are pinned to the planet, in the past, it was a fricking wild ride of dozens of different universes (accounting for the multitude of gods and creation myths all happening) but in the modern era (the era of understanding) it's only a single worldwide texture pinned to the surface of the planet that contains the universe as humans understand it (AKA, the observable universe)
The planet beneath the Surface on the other hand is a FAR tougher nut to crack than the universe sized texture.

jobs to Thor (base)

>Thor starts feeling a little motivated
FRICK

>platonic
>appears in a comic book that has a thousand copies

>Tens of thousands of fans

Larping as some dude with any relevance is more embarassing than whatever Otto does

>LARPing
>schizophrenia
MEDICINA.

This is another reason why nobody gives a flying frick about Otto's Stardust the Superwizard cinematic universe.
Just because you're stealing characters because they're public domain doesn't mean that you can get away with just having them be there with no real explanation and expect the audience to give a singgle frick about anything while also introducing 40 characters every page as some weird LOOK HOW MANY OLD SHIT FAILURE COMICS THAT NEVER AMOUNTED TO ANYTHING I'VE READ flex.
Basically, Otto, you really need to work on your writing.
I can see that you have at least a spark for fiction, but holy shit, stop being such a blundering fool. You're trying to write fricking Crisis On Infinite Earths before you've even written Superman #1.

Yeah, it's called hyperbole, anon.
It's not stealing, but it's still the theft of ideas to substitute your own.

Let me amend my statement. "It's not stealing in the LEGAL interpretation, but it's still the theft of ideas to substitute a lack of your own."

yeah that's alright
one problem with that
i don't see into the gokuverse with 50 different gokus (one of them being black and another transgender) going around

>simulations and shit
Don't tell this moron about the Moon Cell

I'm going to ignore what Hark says about the snowflake and its simulation that exists inside a singular universe and trust what Jakita says Durr
I'm sure Writers are used to ignore each other. I don't see Morrison or DiDio using previous acclaimed Green Latern stuff

every single piece of fiction where a human size character can punch hard enough to make a building explodes doesn't work in real life physics.

Did you even read the post?

Yep you didn't, confirmed low IQ.

>1 event
Hey. It's canon in SMT IV, IVA and V.
In the fricking Gacha, most events are Gods trying to continue what they did in their mythos after seeing the absolute state of the World.
fricking tzitzimitl almost devoured the sun.
Their myths are the basis. Thor from smt3 appeared in the Gacha and created an universe. You don't see that in the myths

>same thing
anon. DC did the same thing. You know, The metaverse and Superman being the archetype of Hope.
DC just doesn't put the whole justice league as avatars of Hope or Will.