Next fight is Cole MacGrath (inFAMOUS) vs Alex Mercer (PROTOTYPE) on Sept 25.
Sources to be used:
https://ulltraguy.blogspot.com/2023/09/suggested-media-cole.html
https://ulltraguy.blogspot.com/2023/09/suggested-media-alex-mercer.html
Cole Preview:
Alex Preview:
Speedy's mind is as weak as his fat and flabby arms.
I still argue Anti Monitor is a better match for Unicron thematically
He doesn't have the same name value to normies as Unicron though.
Galactus and Unicron are the fattest eaters, anon.
What even is an 'anti-monitor'?
Someone who should fight the Anti-Spiral from Gurren Lagann
make way for the real Anti-Monitor mu
Kino
Thanks Sukuna, your our hero
Why?
Grand opponents of the creative energies of existence that seek to control and minimize them, born of rejection of said energies, that are defeated in battles that fractured time and space itself.
That's not how it works homosexual.
As a matter of fact there's so many fricking characters you could fit under that label.
Fricking hate Death Battle fans booking shit because it's always the most dogshit thing you've ever seen.
Ah, but do they have that goofy "anti-" prefix? That's half the appeal.
Name 10
Because 'anti' in the name and weebshitters think he wins.
Monty is for Beyonder
Beyonder is for Hal Jordan
That's doesn't even make sense.
>84 iq esl can't understand
Call the news!
>"you cant understand my schizo ramblings kek"
Meds. Now.
>80 iq babble
That doesn't even make sense.
It does, thematically. Both were the crux point of the first huge crossover events, and both get trotted out when things need to be super serious. Powerwise though, Beyonder can do as he pleases, while the Anti-Monitor just destroys.
>meta shit nobody cares about that isn't intrinsic to the characters
Cool. Superman vs Spider-Man when?
Superman? Venom tier.
>Superman is Beyonder-tier
But this we already know.
Almost like... Superman had different writers across the years...
The Beyonder? More like The Befrauder
Anti-Monitor wins.
>saves your season
Can't even save himself, though.
>Saves the people from Gojogays
He can only save half of it.
You know what I want as a semi-joke fight?
Sinistar vs Death Star.
RUN RUN COWARD
I want to know who you think wins
>by jobbing to Goku
I want a dogfight DB. Maverick and Goose vs who?
Star Fox is for Rogue Squadron
Did deathbattle convince you he was island level?
sup
check the mega if you want
https://mega.nz/folder/kEIWXSKZ#wXmvacWPUOvTwfBUQ-KIrA
Sally Acorn vs Sandy Cheeks
Spencer (Bionic Commando) vs Jax (MK)
Lisa from Lisa the Joyful vs Omori from Omori
The Joyful? You mean Buddy then?
Lisa only really shows up in LISA, before Painful
Right, shit, that is totally my bad, this is why you don't request thumbnail art at like 3 in the morning.
Buddy vs Omori is what I meant, scratch the request for Lisa vs Omori, that was a mistake.
Under from Undertale vs Cave from Cavestory
Dragonets of destiny battle royale
Live Action Spidermen (Toby, Garfield, Holland) vs Live Action Batmen (Keaton, Bale, Pattinson/Affleck)
Idk who deserves it better honestly? Batfleck has more to work with but Pattinson is the better Batman storywise.
No way they'd be able to do the Spider-Man one in live action. I don't trust them to do it 3D. So that leaves them with Sprites or Drawn Animation.
Spidermen take it. Even with Batfleck's aresnal, it isn't anything MCU and Amazing Spidey haven't dealt with, while Baleman is explicitly just a trained guy in a suit with his best feat being getting better after being beaten by a roided up jock who straight up broke his back, Keaton has no real feats, so it's Batfleck carrying them on the strength of his powered armor and walker.
Glass half-empty vs Glass half-full
Jungian Archetypes vs Plato's Forms vs Freud's Iceberg
conceptualism vs realism vs nominalism
Tricky vs Gamzee
Quote from Cave Story vs Reg from Made in Abyss
Momotaro vs Jack the Giant Killer
Dirty Harry vs Paul Keresy (OG Deathwish)
Dafoe Goblin vs Ledger Joker
Mahoraga had pretty good adaptability tbf, even I don’t fully understand how it got around Limitless
Threadly reminder weebs are SHIT and need absolutely purged from this earth.
It would be fun to give Gru the minions and Megamind has Minion.
>Solos everyone ever suggested in death battle thread
Stellar prostitute
this mid couldn't solo her way out of a crate kek
>Her
??? Schrodinger is a guy.
Gilgamesh could effortlessly beat up your favorite character
>can workshop infamous into the title, granted it's pretty easy
>can't do it for prototype
I'm sad
>saves your seas-
Eh he looks fine
A
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If you guys want to see true lack of media literacy, there's a thread on r/deathbattle right now about unpopular powerscaling opinions.
>unironic multiversal kirby
morons lmao
lol ikr kirby's AT LEAST outerversal
ummmm sweatie are you stupid???? xir's BOUNDLESS
the worst i saw is unironicall believing in fricking boundless
that term has probably never crossed a single writer's mind.
was about to say it crossed the minds of scp "writers" , but then I remembered writing schlock monster fanfics online doesn't make you a real writer
I mean... neither does writing for cape comics and yet Cinemaphile exists
Boundless is functionally no different from omnipotence but for some godforsaken reason there's a billion different forms and tiers of "muh omnipotence" that aren't actually omnipotence by the definition of the word
omnipotence is all powerful
If you can be compromised in any way, no matter how slightly, you're not omnipotent
Yeah that's my point yet people insist on different levels of "omnipotence" for different flavors of reality warpers or that being omnipotent isn't enough to be "boundless" which is logically moronic
Omnipotence is often used as hyperbole, like infinity. "Infinite blades of grass on the field bow as the breeze washes over them."
>hyperbole
>HYPERverse
>"Characters or objects that can universally affect, create and/or destroy structures whose size is equivalent to a countably infinite number of qualitative sizes above a universal model, usually represented in fiction by endless hierarchies of layers of existence, each succeeding one completely trivializing the previous into insignificance, or more generally a space with countably infinite dimensions."
you just prove them right
Why is it so hard to understand why there are a billion tiers? Omnipotence is not debatable as a concept and god tiers in every fiction do not have the same power level. Battleboarding has done away with using omnipotence and opted for cosmology scaling which is a lot more useful for deciding which top dog reality warper beats who.
Half the replies are about Sonic being whateverversal. Was there a mass tism crossover at some point?
The "mass tism crossover" is the sonic fans logging on, yes
Sonic's latest game is getting a big update in 6 days and in it, Sonic will reach a form above Super Sonic in power.
It's just topical right now, in say, two weeks times, it'll be over.
>Doomsday device capable of creating an implosion that can destroy an entire love declaration made of stars
Could your favorite character tank it?
>Gohan
I’m leaning towards no.
Z Broly could. He destoyed a quadrant of an infinite universe while not fully powered up. As long as Broly has his shield up he'd tank this shit. Z Broly theoretically destoyed many black holes when he vaporized south Galaxy. No reason he doesn't just destoy the implosion with his infinite legendary ki.
Not trying to say you're wrong, but in order to accept that destroying a galaxy means destroying a large quadrant of the universe in Dragon Ball, we have to go with the interpretation that an entire universe in Dragon Ball is like five galaxies.
They are called galaxies. But they are giant quadrants of an infinite living universe. Each universe is made of multiple infinite realms such has heaven and the Kaio realm. Broly destoyed 1/4th of an infinite universe by vaporizing most of South Galaxy. (only a hand full of planets that are also destoyed on the surface exist on the edge of where south galaxy once was) z Broly could destoy the implosion.
I thought they all shared realms. That's why Picon can show up in the Fusion Reborn movie like he's just taking a trip.
Anon please stop making shit up
Extreme temperatures can't harm her, but black holes will frick her up unless she's in her super form.
So, kind of.
Okay, who actually wins this? Do they have counters to each other's abstract existence shit?
Unicron. Dark Energon fricks over Galactus
Dark Energon wouldn't do shit to Galactus.
either Galactus wins or both lose
Reminder that Makima was eaten, digested, converted to feces and then shit out.
was she really? she's dead?
She got better.
Not really. The new b***h seems to be a different character, even down to personality and character quirks.
Honestly, after the stuff she pulled I'm glad she suffered such a humiliating death
>Kills the strongest in the series due to sheer skill
>Mindbreaks the rest of the cast
>Earned his spot as the King of curses
Throughout Heaven and Earth, He is The Honored One"
Does Sukuna have anyone to fight when possessing Megumi?
Gun Fiend Aki, but at that point just do Aki vs Megumi.
Megumi probably takes that one
Still loses to Zangetsu
everyone in this manga looks like an inbred psychopath
>Sukuna took the form of a woman and that was how yuji was born
>Sukuna let himself be used in every way to ensure this would happen somehow
>Gojo lost to this freak
Ouch
That's Kenjaku and yes, Gojo lost
>saves your season
Anon, we already got Dragon Ball vs Sonic last season. Besides, if Goku comes back it’s either Jin Mori, or more likely, Composite Goku vs Composite Superman
Does this include audience fusion? Can he finally defeat Superman?
God Fusion vs Thought Robot would make Goku vs Superman 3 great with a Meta vs Meta fight
>more likely, Composite Goku vs Composite Superman
They asked their MAGfest audience earlier this year how they'd feel about another one and got a lukewarm reaction. Its obvious GvS3 isn't a priority for DB, even if they wanted to do it.
Unironically
Goku needs some kind of win, with Gogeta vs Vegito his current record is 1 win and 4 losses with Black vs Thawne included, but he's not going to get it from Sonic because the fight wouldn't be any fun outside of a DBX episode.
Goku either predictably stomps game Sonic even if you limit Goku to just the original manga which Death Battle won't do even if they do even if they don't go past Kid Buu's defeat, or Goku's predictably stomped by Archie Sonic's hax that turns Goku into a muffin for an unfunny TFS reference, a cookie if you're feeling daring.
What the frick is up with this image, Sonic is 3'3", why is his eye is bigger than Goku's skull?
I wonder if the track for Cole vs Alex will be good. I expect metal
Sounds like another rap battle in the preview. What were they thinking? Should've leaned more into 2000s nu metal if you wanted to make it feel like a product of it's time.
Jjk and chainsaw man are the new black clover and my hero
>fotm tr/a/nime is fotm
No shit?
I thought JJK was gonna be around for a long time but with Gojo being dead and literally chopped in half..... the future is kind of uncertain
JJK and My Hero seem to be deliberately trying to end together so that doesn't seem right.
Goku beats Superman
Xeno Goku slaughters Supermid Prime
Strange Visitor Superman rapes all of Dragon Ball
don't respond to Listtroon you Neanderthal
Spacebattles is pretty /comfy/
every time that site is mentioned on here, I think part of my brain dies.
Why
There's at least 3 separate boards that bring it up and they all have such amazingly disparate attitudes regarding that site, I find it way too hilarious.
I'm curious
How does each board feel about it
/tg/ hates it and revels in their superiority over it, Cinemaphile and Cinemaphile seemingly think it's alright for battleboarding and storing fanfic, /k/ thinks its too left of it politically to be good etc.
I'm over generalising a lot of things here but yeah
thanks
Yeah that makes sense.
I wonder, how many characters in DC are at this point 1000x+ multiversal by virtue of scaling to 1 million decibel?
For the guy that wanted the link to Anti-Monitor vs. Door
desuarchive.org/co/thread/139393730/#q139404226
*Living Tribunal, my bad
Can you name a truly omnipotent character? Because I can't think of one
in terms of battleboarding? none
God.
Erhm, ackshually, God is only universal going by feats, and even then its debatable
No, you can't show omnipotence as a feat, only a statement.
wrong
>“YOUR WORLD IS AT THE EDGES OF MY GARDEN (gorillion versal cosmology that extends past ontology). IF NOT FOR COINCIDENCE PILED UPON COINCIDENCE, IT WOULD NEVER BLOSSOM INTO GOODNESS, AND SO COULD NOT HAVE BEEN CREATED (Hero's Journey). YOUR IGNORANCE OF MY PURPOSE BEGINS A CHAIN OF COINCIDENCES WHICH WILL GROW AND GROW UNTIL THE END OF THE WORLD, WHEN IT WILL COME TO FRUITION (its so huge that its randumb). THAT PURPOSE IS NOW COMPLETE. GO, AND REGAIN EVERYTHING YOU HAVE LOST, BUT TELL NOBODY WHAT I HAVE TOLD YOU (Status Quo by definition goes Unchanged as seen by the context).”
>“But…I told everybody I was going to ask You about the purpose of evil. When they want to know what You answered, what should I tell them?” (example for metaphor: neckbeard outcast nerd athiest basement dweller who won't make his american-israeli family proud and start learning how to be a lawyer or businessman or whatever gets them money but instead deflects his responsabilities and wastes time speculating on trivial things such as art and preference)
>“TELL THEM I SAID ‘GO FISH’." (maybe or not, there's a true yes to this samsara)
None, because as the other anon said, omnipotence is just a statement. The original word for "wank".
I hate how arguments boil down to which character can destroy more universes, even though said character is never seen destroying anything larger than a building.
I'm never going to drop this shit, take me to the higher court and let's see who gets laughed the most.
Ichigo isn't even close to be as strong as Asura or TTGL. You can frick off forever with this bullshit.
BUT MUH MULTIVERSAL DANTE!!! HAVEN'T YOU READ THE DMC2 NOVEL BRO?????
You're never going to drop it because you're a fricking autist who can't exit a hobby that isn't built for you. You can take your shit "presentation over everything" viewpoint to its logical conclusion and argue that no character is as powerful as they seem because nothing is ever actually depicted at scale nor do they obey the conservation of energy or physics generally. Those galaxies that TTGL threw? Must not be galaxies because you can't fricking hold them like that. Those planets Asura busted through? Building sized planets lmao.
The hobby is built for me but was taken over by people like you. But you're the one who's ridicule. People like me are the fix.
It was never built for you. Your brain is not capable of abstraction when that is the bare minimum for engaging with battleboarding.
>when a normal person
Why use this appeal when Death Battle is popular from doing this shit all the time? Are you actually moronic?
Yes, I know you have autism and like big numbers, but as a matter of fact, Obi-Wan couldn't deflect the Death Star Super Laser if he was standing on Alderaan at the time.
>"Le abstraction"
All you're doing is taking the author's vision out of context in order to circlejerk your favorite characters you pretentious moron.
>Yes, I know you have autism and like big numbers
You seriously tried a no u? When your whole shtick is wanting characters to be presented as literal as possible? I'm sorry you're actually too mentally deficienct to engage with battleboarding.
How about you prove to me Asura actually destroyed a planet and not a fricking paper mache?
This is bait.
This is extreme bait.
Lmao holy shit.
Either that or you eat a balanced breakfast of glue and squares of corrugated iron.
If that's the only response you can muster, I'm glad you realize the absurdity of your viewpoint. You can't actually prove shit and need to abstract it like everything else in fiction.
You're a massive moron, anon.
Author Intent is king, you can shit and piss your pants about that one time your favorite guy did something that makes him giga-omniversal, but the truth is that he's a sentence away from getting ganked by a guy with a stun baton, or a peasant with a pitchfork, or a gun, or tripping and having a rock fall on him.
So if an author says a big tree is actually a collection of realities, you'd buy it because author intent is king?
Holy fricking balls anon, welcome to abstraction.
I mean, just because something is a collection of realities doesn't mean it would have the durability of one. You typically just need a large axe to cut down a tree.
The large axe isn't multiversal, it's just magical and anti-tree.
For example fantasy Trees in Fate clearly don't need that level of destructive power to be destroyed and those are pretty much exactly what you're trying to talk about.
nta but authorial intent aka Word of God should only really be taken into context with actual writing backing it up as part of the story, at least enough to actually support said statements
An author saying "this tree is a multiversal collection of realities" when by all accounts it's just a normal tree then take that with a grain of salt, but an author saying that and then depicting the tree as a World Tree or something and having people actively fighting over getting control of the tree or showing that cutting off a branch explodes a different timeline or something actually gives the statement a foundation
>How about you prove to me Asura actually destroyed a planet and not a fricking paper mache?
This frickers really trying to liken the validity of feats and statements LOL
>Directly shows him bigger than the planet
>Destroys conjured suns bigger than himself and therefore bigger than the planet which the cutscene just showed he is the same size of on screen
>Directly shows him speeding out of the star system in an instant
>Directly shows a supernova happening which he destroys
Come on now
bait used to be believable
Ok then show me the best feat Kratos has. Go on and just show me Kratos actually punching a fricking planet like Asura did.
Classic "UHM, ACTUALLY" moronation.
When a normal person thinks, "I wonder who would win in a fight, X or Y" they aren't going to bother extrapolating "WELL THAT ONE TIME HE SCRUNKO'D THE SKRIMBLO TREE THAT HOLD A SEPTILLION BLAMMOS, WHICH MEANS THAT HE AND EVERYONE HE HAS EVER FOUGHT MUST BE SKRUNKTASTIC TIER"
Where like, every time the character actually fights, he's clearly unable to lift a boulder or go faster than sound.
It's why Spiderman gapes Kratos.
Kratos beats spider man
Ahem, G A P E D
That guy killed spider man once, Spider Man's best strength feat is holding up the daily bugle building while Kratos fights skyscraper tall monsters all the time, spider sense is wanked since slow pokes like Rhino and Kingpin b***hslap him occasionally so there's no reason he can't majorly hurt Peter with just his fists, the creator doesn't know what he's talking about
Do you think a rat dealing a fatal blow on a human makes the rat a human’s equivalent in every single physical category
The rat would be Peter since Kratos could tank every move he has and then break his kneecaps, the only advantage he has is speed and how Kratos gets past his pre cog, Kratos is large country level non wankry, Spider Man is at least island level, I gotta go to work but I'll be back if I can come up with an argument
What large country did Kratos destroy with his own fists
What a moron you are
His point is completely valid lol.
Feats > calcs and scaling.
Calcs and scaling (at least direct one) are good as long they're backed by feats.
They really aren't, cause they rely on fan conjecture and result in incorrect assumptions like the size of earth in One Piece and people assuming Gojo was stronger than Sukuna.
No, they're really not.
Calcs and scaling are a fricking cancer.
Cloud cutting, ocean cutting, storm creating, storm destroying, "laser" dodging.
All these things need to fricking go.
Laser dodging should be banned from being used to measure speed, it should just be taken as an ability at this point. "Can dodge lasers" rather than "WTF??? MFTL COMBATSPEED???"
I have never once met a Luffygay who could tell me why if Luffy is FTL he can't just zoom across the entire planet by taking a single step.
No they arent. Especially scaling because morons often to take that to mean beating somethibg means you share the exact same stats of that thing. Like shooting down a dragon means you can also fly and swipe down a building
If someone is able to fight Asura, that someone will be planet/star level, though... that's direct scaling I think it's valid.
>means you can also fly
Why are you confusing abilities for stats????
They do it with abilities too
I've never seen anyone ever say shit like Goku being able to use Buu's candy beam because he scales higher. Nobody scales abilities like this, only stats.
Only thing I've ever seen get scaled by anyone with common sense is base shit like strength, durability, and speed, who the frick is high and goes "well they beat this dragon that can summon lightning and fly through space at lightspeed so clearly those dragon abilities are things they also can do"
I mean Death Battle made Stitch MFTL for flying a spaceship and Rocket as fast as his own tools for some reason so I wouldnt throw out there are people that moronic
It wasn’t just from flying the ship. He was also actually manually dodging and actively dogfighting against someone, that’s where the whole reaction speed and whatever is coming from.
>All those normie spaceship cops are mftl speed now
>Every normie in Red Squadron from Star Wars is MFTL now
They literally gave Archie Silver a whole form he never used in Archie based on scaling and assumptions. That's on a whole different level then just abilities.
That's fair if similar characters have the same capability. Like giving Vegeta SSG before it was officially confirmed he can do it.
No it's not. It's like giving Vegeta Super Saiyan 3.
He's a saiyan anon. Are you going to argue race intrinsic abilities aren't a thing?
He's arguing that race intrinsic scaling leads down a slippery slope.
what a neat argument.
Batman has the Speedforce because both he and Flash are humans?
I don't see a reason not to believe that Batman couldn't have been struck by lightning around those chemicals, after all, they are both humans right?
Aren't there literally comics where Batman acquired speedforce abilities?
Yes, so he should from now on be considered to have speedforce powers because he can strap Flash to his car.
So what's your point now? Speedforce ability can by acquired under the right circumstances, it has nothing to do with the original argument anymore.
I'm saying because he CAN get those powers, he should be given those powers in Death Battles, just like how Silver CAN become Super in Archie but never does in the actual comic.
It's like giving the Infinity Gauntlet to any Marvel Character because they CAN use it.
Isn't Silver supposed to be comparable to Shadow and Sonic by intent? I feel like you'd be the person to expect Gohan to never turn super saiyan after seeing Trunks and Vegeta do it.
This sounds desperate.
Super Archie Silver is a character that DOES NOT EXIST.
If Dragonball ended after Freeza, would you really be trying to say "Well Gohan and Vegeta could totally also go Super Saiyan!"?
Sure, later material shows it happening, but you can't just assume shit.
How is it desperate? And your comparison is off. Sonic, Shadow and fricking Tails have gotten super forms so it would be like you doubting Gohan after seeing Future Trunks.
My comparison is fine.
Your comparison is gay.
You are gay.
Silver has no Super Form.
He means in the Archie continuity.
>Super Archie Silver is a character that DOES NOT EXIST.
WoG says he does through. The events of 06 did happen in Archie (and then were retconned out due to Time Travel).
WoG says Silver loses against Trunks so it's not the best path to take.
I don't really give a shit who wins, so whatever.
Also, wasn't Ian's point more about it being unfair to give Silver the Chaos Emeralds? Which is a different conversation.
It's another reason he shouldn't have the form, so it's not really separate.
No, that goes for pretty much every character.
Do you let Thanos have the Infinity Gauntlet or not? What equipment do any of the Supergeniuses get to bring with them? What about non-standart forms? How do you treat RPG characters?
These kinds of questions are really up to the person's opinion on what is fair.
>Do you let Thanos have the Infinity Gauntlet or not?
I'm a Thanosgay, but you really shouldn't. He came up with the idea but they aren't standard equipment. In fact the individual stones ARE standard equipment on OTHER characters.
That's actually a good point. I feel like unique equipment that is used by multiple different characters should have extra restriction in these discussions. Like, Link using the Master Sword is easy to accept because he's the dude who uses the Master Sword. But multiple characters use things like the Chaos Emeralds and Soul Gems.
Yes, but on the other hand you'll have people complaining if it's an especially iconic thing for them. People already b***hed when they limited Cloud in his first fight.
Especially with stuff like Super forms. For a lot of people, you didn't really beat Sonic if you didn't have to deal with Super Sonic. It's like beating the Flash without the Speedforce.
That's moronic, the speedforce is an intrinsic part of Flash, the emeralds are not an intrinsic part of Sonic
I don't think it was necessarily the chaos emeralds themselves, it was DB equating his Super form and its feats to Sonic's, and even more so on how Sonic and Mega Man rewriting the multiverse was not how DB was making it out to be (iirc like they were also affecting by their own reality warping or something like that)
>Super Archie Silver is a character
Stopped reading there, it's a FORM, not a fricking character you dumbass
DOESN'T EXIST ARCHIEgay
I thought Ian Flynn himself stated that super Archie silver was bs?
he said giving it to him was bs
No he said Silver getting chaos emeralds and those time gems by default was unfair and bullshit. Then again Trunks got his cards and awakened keysword hax so whatever
Yes.
Superman has whole abilities that other Kryptonians don't have, like the red/blue forms.
Give it time.
Time just gives Superman more abilities othe Kryptonians don't have. Like that giant energy body he summoned in that newer comic with metallo.
That's just because he was exposed to a white sun (and because Goku did it first)
>Toyo shit
never come back
Goku's current writer is just as shit as Superman's current writer.
Your example was never really a point of contention though because he had Blue the moment it was revealed to be a thing.
It's more like people assuming Hulk can regenerate from literally nothing because Leader did, which is a genuine point of contention.
Super Silver is confirmed to exist, even if it never appeared on screen
Never appeared in the story you mean.
I get what you mean and honestly I think scaling needs to be heavily taken into context regarding what's actually getting scaled, Lucina from FE doesn't suddenly scale to the big frickhuge dragon she had to kill that threatened the entire world simply because her sword made specifically for killing dragons managed to get lodged in its head
If you shot it down? No.
But if you fought a dragon hand to hand and won? Yes
Betting on Alex winning. Yeah Cole's the popular choice to win; but so were Vader, Phoenix and Discord. Just hope the finished fight animation is above average tbh
Phoenix and Bill cipher were rigged though
But yeah, this can go either way. Thinking Cole wins because he's more wankable but who knows.
Who would win in a fight
Flowery Writing using hyperbolic comparison vs "Take everything literally" autists.
The best way to actually gauge the strength of a character is to get a complete new arrival to a series, sit them through the PRIMARY canon of something, and then you ask them.
>"So how many universes do you think they can destroy?"
To which the answer will be
>"What? None, they could like, maybe blow up a mountain with their super move."
in 99% of all cases.
it's especially hilarious for things like Dark Souls
ask anyone who's played through the entire game how strong the Chosen Undead is and they're likely going to describe them as "really strong for a human, but still human"
>
Bring me MakimaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
This dude should probably fight Ban from Seven Deadly Sins.
New bland power level man just showed up.
New Death Battle
Author Intent vs Death of the Author
DotA is solely invoked as an excuse to spew head-canon.
Some Kratos fan melting down, huh?
What is the cope for this anyways?
Death of the Author, probably
Gotta love how every time a Kratos powergay tries to bait powergay answers from the GoW team to support their headcanon get they are basically always met with
"lmao no are you fricking high?
So what source are Kratosgays even pulling from?
It's not the games, he doesn't even have planet level feats in those and that's like the minimum ballpark for most of his MUs.
It's not lore, the new games frick up the idea that normal mythology scaling can be applied to the series since somehow multiple pantheons have to share credit for creation myths and roles of God's representing different concepts.
And WoG is working AGAINST the wank.
Mythology wank. They think the greek pantheon in his series are super wanked mythology interpretations that lift infinity and all that jazz when they clearly arent that powerful
An item description says Hades is infinite.
That's it. That's how pathetic the whole fraud is.
Kratos would get GAPED by Peter Parker, this is fact and cannon and no amount of THEY SAID I IN THE ITEM DESCRIPTION BOX will change it.
The mind rot is really at work I see. A shitpost comment from the writer doesn't mean anything when it's contradicted by Kratos battling Titans, scaling above Atlas holding up the entire world, or defeating Thor who sent a world serpent back in time with a single physical blow.
Even the director of the game says its shot. Atlas was only holding up Greece.
Still better than anything Spiderman has ever held up
Beat an enraged Hercules
so did kratos
Marvel Hercules > GoW Hercules
>MIDvel herc jobs to Spiderman
>Spiderman is below LowCriminalVersal
kek
And Spider-man is supposed to beat Kratos even if it was just Greece. Yep the mind rot is real.
Kratos never beat Atlas. He cried like a b***h and had to get him into holding Greece again
Listen Otto, Kratos rapes Spiderman
That's it, man, Spiderman just doesn't have the feats
Sorry man, even Kratos' writer knows that Peter Parker would make PUNYos drop a Thanos face and GAPE HELPLESSLY.
Magnun Force probably put Callahan over. Paul never fought something as organized and trained.
Again,
>We can't keep these timelines alive, they're a drain on our finite resources
That's so puny by cosmic standards. No on in Marvel or DC goes "You know, we really should delete the Age of Apocalypse, it's sapping our finite resources like a cancer."
Fate's cosmology is VENTILATOR ASSISTANCE TIER.
Why would you bother to keep around doomed timelines anyway when you don't have to? Especially when you're only interested in the prosperity of humanity.
I don't really need to swank the timelines and universes, Fate has dimensionwank instead, so Saber with her 6D Avalon rapes DC.
>Let's just nuke Somalia, if your life involves suffering above an arbitrary level we should just kill you.
Sounds like the Fate cosmology needs REAL heroes to come in and show these sub-alien level gods what real power looks like.
>MUH 6D
Cut by the ebon blade.
>muh writer
Superman gets GAPED by Goku then moron
Bendis isn't a writer, he's a learning AI. Why do you think his dialog sounds like it does?
Peter beating Kratos through Firelord BS would be unironically beautiful. Kratosgays live by the swank and die by the swank.
Unironically, doesn't Peter have better scaling than Kratos at max wank? Spider-Man has to have fought enough Marvel heralds that if you applied the same standards to him that vsbw does to Kratos that Peter gets to multiverse level, right?
see, this is what I was talking about earlier when I said people assume comic characters are uber strong
spiderman beat firelord like 50 years ago which is a mid feat and dismissed as a comical outlier even by his fans
Yeah and Kratos dies to a bonk on the head. You don’t wanna play this game
Spiderman has worse
You really don't. A comic character has a 100 to 1 anti-feat ratio with any other medium.
>capeshitter thinks he can play the anti feat game
holy kek
>That's so puny by cosmic standards.
As if DC cosmos wasn't pitiful during the Parallax era
Atleast DC had to kill off their multiverse in Crisis because they WERE draining actual REAL LIFE finite resources. That atleast gives it footcast tier cosmology. Better than Fate imo.
I mean, Jaffe, who made the character is done with his story. Now it's Barlog, who isn't telling a superpowered revenge fantasy, but instead trying to humanize the murder machine.
G A P E D
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Gem.
Why won't people accept that Yhwach is almighty/omnipotent?
Cause I'm not a vsbw devotee
>omnipotent
>gets cut down by Ichigo
Whatever you say, anon
because he lost?
Gojo solos
>Duuuuurrr he's 3 universes strong, trust me bro I work for Nasa
What are the feats? Slicing some buildings in half?
Get outta here.
>Trunks can one shot guys who can destroy infinite timelines
>Trunks can't breathe underwater
How does that figure?
Dragonball water is just built different.
he one shot the guy BEFORE he became the timeline
Talking about Mechikabura I think, not Zimzam.
oh, i see
Saiyans cant breathe in space either. Even if you did have the power to destroy the universe, it doesnt mean you should
If we did somehow get an official crossover, do you think the DC writers would be cucked enough to have Goku beat Superman?
Probably. It doesn't look like it's in the mail continuity, but the upcoming Godzilla DC comic has Godzilla taking on the whole JLA which implies Superman alone isn't enough.
Highly likely considering they not only got Power Girl on blacked and Alan Scott on a dildo, but are notorious for being the pioneers of making virtue signaling into a fricking medium
Also going by the alternate route, id implore you to check the ethnicity of their staff
they'll both stop fighting after realising the other isn't evil and they team up to stop the actual villains, at the end they have a rematch which we don't see the outcome of
Hasn't Eggman had all 7 Chaos Emeralds + The Master Emerald before?
Why didn't he go Super Egg or something and curbstomp Wily thanks to that?
Eggman doesn't transform with the Emeralds in the games.
He usually just plugs them into some Doomsday Device.
>Eggman doesn't transform with the Emeralds in the games.
Just like how Silver doesn't transform with the Emeralds in Archie?
He never gets the opportunity to, but guidebooks and stuff say he could.
He's had full control of the time eater, who's as strong as two super sonics.
The Final Egg Blaster is more powerful than any Super form anyways.
But he literally does go Super in the second live action movie when he has the Master Emerald (which contained the chaos Emeralds).
he did in Fleetway and became a reality warping God
Why does every Fate poster think their character is the strongest in fiction when none of them are even the strongest in their own universe?
But she is the strongest in her own universe.
>not even planetary
this the best arcu can muster? no wonder she got raped lmao
>not even planetary
I mean, planets in the Nasuverse are universal in scope and scale and she IS the planet so uh, well whatever.
nasu planets are more like solar system tier
Nah, Zeus is specifically capable of both Anti-Concept and Anti-Solar System level attacks and he couldn't even hope to destroy the actual planet. The closest the Planet has come to being destroyed is Oberon's super black hole bullshit and Chaos trying to eat 31% of the planet's total mass.
Each Lostbelt is a universe itself, and the Servant Universe is just another texture of the planet that can be visited that is clearly the size of a universe too.
Nasuverse planets are beyond ridiculous. Each individual planet contains an infinite timeline at a universal scale.
Outside of the planet are horrors beyond human comprehension, like Eldritch gods. Upper Dimensional beings.
We know this from Kiara in the Tsukihime timeline becoming an upper dimensional being that is explictly omnipotent (in the actual sense of almighty) in lower dimensions and leaving the sphere of Earth's understanding where she was dwarfed horribly by what lurked beyond the planet and went home, giving up her power because she felt like she'd be more help to humanity as a normal human than she could help them as an upper dimensional being. She also caught glimpses of her FGO and CCC counterparts and considered them her lessers too.
Nasuverse is a fricking ridiculous chuuni wankfest.
jobs to galaxy level reality warping
Unlikely.
Very likely
Notice how the only prominent reality warper is a room level shitter
Nasu is afraid of the strongest power in fiction
Manaka is explictly capable of rewriting reality though?
Through time too, erasing 1500 years of history in order to change a point that was locked in time. It's just she needs to work against the corrective force of the planet that locked it in time in the first place to prevent history from falling apart.
In a setting without such corrective forces, she'd be free to delete her enemies from ever existing.
>changes one little thing in time
Genuine trashbin reality warping
Nasu is afraid
>One little thing in time
Anon I'm pretty sure "Creating an eternal Camelot for my husbando King Arthur that will erase the entire future that was made after that point because the fall of Camelot was the point where Magic was supposed to take a backseat to Progress" isn't small by any means.
(Yes, in this specific case, Fate's King Arthur is actually a man, because it's the AU/Original version.)
>alters thing
>future changes
wow, good to see nasuverse time isn't disabled
It's more like
>Alters fixed point in time
>Every single other timeline that exists because they ALL rely on that one specific moment occurs is erased
It's a timeline thing. By overturning fixed points in time in the Nasuverse, you need to obliterate EVERY timeline, that was what Goetia's plan was in FGO Part 1, he wanted to create a world where death didn't exist, but the only way to do that was to destroy every single timeline there was.
>alternate timelines can't persist by themselves
nevermind, nasuverse time IS disabled
Well they can, but the planet/will of humanity deletes them for being a waste of resources. That's what the Cosmos in the Lostbelt arc of FGO is about. The Lostbelts are all failed/doomed timelines where humanity doesn't prosper that WOULD have been purged from existence by the will of humanity, but are kept manifested by a Fantasy Tree.
The Second Part of FGO is you basically acting as the Time Reaper and going around obliterating entire timelines for the crime of wanting to persist and continue surviving despite insurmountable odds.
The Main Character of FGO has committed omnicide like 7 times now.
>humanity actively suicides themselves
nevermind, the fabric of reality in the nasuverse IS disabled
In case you're wondering what each Lostbelt is (You probably aren't)
1) Meteorite impacts the planet, throwing off orbit and throwing the Earth into a perpetual winter, the only survivors are the Russians, who fused themselves with animals to create a new race.
2) Surtur eats Fenrir, acquires his powers, and nearly wins Ragnarok, Odin is forced to sacrifice his life to seal away Surtur in a false sun and Ragnarok is never concluded. The remainder of humanity are raised in camps and given as sacrifices to the giants.
3) China wins, Qin Shi Huang becomes an immortal, conquers the planet, builds a great wall of china in space around the planet, and makes the entire rest of the entire world grow wheat.
4) Extremely moronic Indian shit, the entire indian Pantheon fuses with Arjuna, who is just fricking around resetting the universe over and over again, erasing every imperfection he finds from every loop.
5) When the White Titan (Nasuverse's version of the thing that fricked up all the Gods) comes to Earth, rather than frick up the Greeks like it was meant to after fricking up the rest of the Gods, Zeus fuses with the rest of the Greek Pantheon to steal their powers (They're all spaceships don't question it) and manages to draw with the White Titan and draw it off instead, allowing for total Greek God Domination into the 2000s
6) That same White Titan from before wasn't stopped at all this time, and wipes the surface of the planet of EVERYTHING because the fairies didn't feel like forging Excalibur. The fairies then manage to make a copy of britain alone on the entire planet to live on through fricking with some surviving dieties.
7) The Chicxulub Meteor arrival is changed, and it arrived 250 million years ago rather than 66 million years ago, so the dinosaurs weren't wiped out and were instead empowered because of magic bullshit, humanity still existed as like, a very small civilization, but they sacrificed themselves to make a God Emperor to kill an alien.
I was not wondering, no.
so it's just 8 earths stacked? and that "" anti solar system"" fraud couldn't break it?
lmao
behold, the God Emperor of Mankind's best opponent from Fate, Gilgamesh can frick off.
>It's just 8 Earths stacked
What part of that made you think that? How can it just be Earths if each of the Lostbelts have events taking place within them BEYOND the scope of Earth?
The White Titan explicitly comes from the Velber, which are extraterrestrial life-purging alien machines that pass through the Milky Way once every 14000 years.
ORT, the main villain of LB7 is a being from the OORT Cloud, which places a single Lostbelt at at least Solar System sized, but considering that LB5 makes a pretty big point about how the Stars are all different and more conducive to magic as a result of the different UNIVERSE it's fairly easy to say each Lostbelt is the size of the entire universe.
Oh no, the whole alternate earths things going on for the Lostbelts is that they're all doomed timelines that are only being kept active by magic bullshit. Usually there's a frickton of normal timelines (Every single story in the entire nasuverse is in its own timeline), and Earth is fine with that because humans are effectively the power source that powers the existence of their own timeline, so if humanity are wiped out or doomed or frick their progress, the timelines that happens in disappear because it's not worth making other timelines suffer for the sake of a failure.
Like, I fricking loathe gacha too, but lets be fair and not downplay it, even if it's a fricking stupid ass chuuni world.
my apologies
8 galaxies stacked
Universes, anon.
It's 8 universes.
I don't need to convince you this anyway, it's what Death Battle will take as canon regardless.
I don't see how it's cope if it's true.
The fantasy trees contain multiple galaxies
>universes
>multiple galaxies
hmmmmm
So did that marble in Men In Black. It could still be destroyed by normal means.
The saddest part is you can swank the barely existent cancer timelines to full universes and it doesn't move the needle for Fate characters at all.8 universes is cripple tier in today's environment. You might as well be planet level.
Holy cope
>Another Chuuni trying to step up to the plate
WHEN YOU DIE, WHERE'S YOUR GOD
How many dimensions do you have
Just feed him Mereum already I want to see Huntergays cry about it.
isn't Mereum's most popular opponent Kars?
Kars is fabulous
Every timeline in Blazblue is an alternate universe. So take that as you will.
Swank fears the serpent lord
>We can't support 8 alternate Earths, it depletes our finite resources
The elder gods in Bokurano were stronger than this shit.
Hey Otto, thoughts on Dirty Harry vs Paul Kersey from Death Wish?
Otto's opinions are worthless, don't bother
>When your black holes aren't even Earth tier
Sad universe for powerlevels.
I mean, Earth in the Nasuverse contains multiple layers of existence Avalon, which is 6th Dimensional.
So that's a 6D Blackhole.
Doesn't that just mean their dimensions are super vulnerable? Scaling down to a planet seems like dumb scaling. Does that mean the meteor that created the Chicxulub Crater was multiversal in the Nasuverse?
The meteor that created the Chicxulub Crater was actually the Aztec pantheon of gods hitching a ride, actually.
Basically, the surface of the planet can contain multiple universes that are pinned to the planet, in the past, it was a fricking wild ride of dozens of different universes (accounting for the multitude of gods and creation myths all happening) but in the modern era (the era of understanding) it's only a single worldwide texture pinned to the surface of the planet that contains the universe as humans understand it (AKA, the observable universe)
The planet beneath the Surface on the other hand is a FAR tougher nut to crack than the universe sized texture.
So how does strip mining work in this universe? Yeah your only tearing up a small chunk of land, but proportional to this scaling, that would still be like planet level minimum.
jobs to Thor (base)
vsbw be like
Marvel pecking order:
TOAA=MOTIVATED THOR=ANGRY HULK=MOLECULE MAN
>Thor starts feeling a little motivated
FRICK
DC's Platonic bullet solos
>platonic
>appears in a comic book that has a thousand copies
Who wins between arcueid and vampire hunter d?
It's only one guy
It's one guy and it's because they read a brief description on carl jung's archetypes and associated it with personatrannies headcanons about outerizzionversal metaphysics
So if Thanos gets the Infinity Gauntlet... why didn't Ganon have the complete Triforce???
Ganon having full triforce didnt matter by their reasoning. They thought he still loses with it
YOU MIGHT HAVE MASTERED DARK MAGIC
BUT I'VE MASTERED DIVINE ARTIFACTS
AND I WISH YOU GONE
FOREVERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
because he never uses it as a weapon, he just keeps it in another room for some reason also it wouldn't have worked on Drac
People really want to make me believe Mario can move faster than Sonic in these threads.
The frick are you talking about? Everyone here knows Sonic rapes and gapes Mario
Be warned, Fate is one of those settings that genuinely TRULY believes in dimensionalitywank.
We're aware. We've dealt with one of these morons on the regular.
You ever get the feeling that there’s sort of a Mandela effect but with powerlevels? Like, the general public remembers a character being a lot stronger than they actually are?
Kratos for sure.
Bionicle is like the opposite for me. Those guys are way stronger than I remember.
I know right? When I was a kid I didn't even know the masks had powers
Kirby
Eh, Star Slam Heroes puts him about where I thought he was.
those planets are pretty fricking small for planets even if Kirby was human sized, small for moons too
The distance relative to time is more objective than scale.
Comic characters tbh
People just assume they have to be busted
>You ever get the feeling that there’s sort of a Mandela effect but with powerlevels? Like, the general public remembers a character being a lot stronger than they actually are?
People listened to powerscalers beating it off to their favorite characters rather than reading their stories.
Gurren Lagann. It’s a setting where the most it goes is the Universe at risk of destruction
I feel like this is the wank Kratosgaya want you to think they have.
How strong are the characters in Vampire Survivor supposed to be? I thought they were just Castlevania parodies but shit gets weird near the end.
galaxy level
That's what I thought but it seemed like a big jump.
Glass cannons.
Fragile as hell but dish out big damage.
The attack they can use that I'm really calling into question (sole solution) seems to have them turn into a galaxy and become invincible until they change back.
It's the only thing that crazy and im not sure if it's even legit, but it wouldn't really seem like a glass canon thing if there's any validity to it.
Queen Sigma is genuinely galaxy tier. But just like Pyron from Darkstalkers, scaling to other characters becomes really hard to place in canon.
The only people who hate dimensionwank are those who don't have it.
such as
DCucks
Imagine only the creator of the universe being 6D lol.
I hate when mid level series fans match into it because they don't realize they are just giving DC and Marvel cucks more fuel, since it applies exponentially to those universes and theyr messy cosmologies.
DC is FRICKED for dimensionality, as all they've got for dimensionality is
>Perpetua being 6D
>other older shit that has since been retconned to an extreme degree
>DURRR 100,000 DIMENSIONS (actually talking about universes/timelines, proving that there isn't an infinite timeline and that DC has a literal order of magnitude less timelines at minimum than fricking Dragon Ball Heroes does.)
>6D DCucks watching as 26D chad Ben 10 strolls in
Powerscaling really has become a D measuring contest.
This is why relatively low tier unwanked matchups like TJ VS Balrog will always remain the best fights
Based
Powerscaling past planetary level feels meaningless
>Misunderstanding the difference between "dimensions" and spatial dimensions.
PRO TIP: Spatial dimensions tap out at the speed force wall. This is such a white belt concept that even Swanky Swank understands it.
It must be so sad, being a non-reader. Go ahead an post Jakita calling dimensions "universes," prove to me you're just a scan skimmer, do it.
They're different universes you moron
>Hurrr I'm going to ignore what Hark says about the snowflake and its simulation that exists inside a singular universe and trust what Jakita says Durr
Marvel and DC are infinite spatial dimensions. They DOMINATE and HUMILIATE weeb trash with their finite dimensions.
>I-I-I'll convince people one day that they're finite, then anime will win...
It's too late. Superskrull >>>>>> all of Dragon ball and it's all your fault, because you couldn't be humble, because you sabotaged yourself in your foolish quest for a silver bullet.
All that you have built...WILL FALL!
Otto, you really need lessons on being a more compelling writer, I'd teach you how it's done, but I'm busy with my tens of thousands of fans.
Read less shit books, look into narrative structure more, stop reading comics made for 10 year olds.
>Tens of thousands of fans
I know Otto, you're left speechless by the idea that somebody smarter, more successful, AND more popular than you could be here, but it's true.
Now why don't you go and write some shitty Golden Age Era Superhero fanfic that'll get read by all of 13 people?
Larping as some dude with any relevance is more embarassing than whatever Otto does
I mean, that would be true, IF I were LARPing.
But sadly for you, TripOfftto, I'm not.
>LARPing
>schizophrenia
MEDICINA.
why DOES Otto tripgay anyway, is he so desperate for attention he needs to come here, to Cinemaphile of all places?
Silence, Otto.
Pretty much, nobody gives a shit about blue spandex man waxing philosophy with a man dressed like he's a fricking lightning bolt. They just want to see them do what people read comics to see. SUPERHEROICS.
This is another reason why nobody gives a flying frick about Otto's Stardust the Superwizard cinematic universe.
Just because you're stealing characters because they're public domain doesn't mean that you can get away with just having them be there with no real explanation and expect the audience to give a singgle frick about anything while also introducing 40 characters every page as some weird LOOK HOW MANY OLD SHIT FAILURE COMICS THAT NEVER AMOUNTED TO ANYTHING I'VE READ flex.
Basically, Otto, you really need to work on your writing.
I can see that you have at least a spark for fiction, but holy shit, stop being such a blundering fool. You're trying to write fricking Crisis On Infinite Earths before you've even written Superman #1.
Not defending the disappointing comic but it really is not stealing if it's public domain.
Yeah, it's called hyperbole, anon.
It's not stealing, but it's still the theft of ideas to substitute your own.
Theft is literally stealing
Let me amend my statement. "It's not stealing in the LEGAL interpretation, but it's still the theft of ideas to substitute a lack of your own."
Samegay
yeah that's alright
one problem with that
i don't see into the gokuverse with 50 different gokus (one of them being black and another transgender) going around
Superman won the battle but Goku won the war
>simulations and shit
Don't tell this moron about the Moon Cell
Solar System >>> Moon
Solar System Cell >>> Moon Cell
I'm going to ignore what Hark says about the snowflake and its simulation that exists inside a singular universe and trust what Jakita says Durr
I'm sure Writers are used to ignore each other. I don't see Morrison or DiDio using previous acclaimed Green Latern stuff
They don't say they're spatial dimensions moron
Accept your capeshit is outdated
They mean universes you fricking moron lmao.
God, this isn't just a fricking silver bullet, this is a fricking consecrated stake made with a piece of the fricking true cross at its core.
Beyblade actually does have it.
Imagine seeing Mxy get bodied by a fricking Beyblade
Kratosgays really are nuts about overblowing him. The games, devs, and just about all supplementary material say how he is strong but not some bullshit planet destroying cosmic powerhouse.
>Powerscalers giving a shit about facts
You must be new
Saber (my wife) >>>>> DC Comics
She may be your wife, but she's carrying my child.
>latest ballot banter released
>Swan deconfirmed cell vs super skrull
>Would be no contest with current marvel scaling
>Never happening without cell getting super scaling
>NOOOO MY DIMENSION POWER LEVEL
>ACK!
This is a consequence of your actions, weebs, You dared bring up dimensions as a silver bullet against capes. Now you reap the whirlwind.
Prepare yourself. Black Knight vs Saber WILL happen, Saber WILL die, Fate WILL be fraud checked, and you WILL cry.
You replied to the wrong post.
>Black Knight vs Saber WILL happen, Saber WILL die, Fate WILL be fraud checked, and you WILL cry.
At best they'll put her up against someone like Anakin or Ky from Guilty Gear.
You're never gonna get her fighting a cape character whose total sum of fans is in the negative digits.
black who?
That's because Cell got powercrept hard.
He is literally nothing but a small drop in the water compared to Broly, Frieza, Jiren, Zamasu, and Beerus by now, and his biggest "return" was a mindless clone like Bio-Broly.
Also DBZ doesn't have Toriyama going HOLY FRICK ATTOSECOND/PLANCK TIME SPEED? every panel so he's handicapped by Toriyama not using words he doesn't understand the meaning of.
I mean Cell still has the consistent solar system level statement
Don't frick with Cell
>0 good matchups
>Luffy eats a light beam and turns into a disco ball
Kek
doesn't by DB standards this give Luffy lightspeed reaction time?
or is this going to be the one time they actually admit the laser isn't moving at lightspeed
By this point VSgays should just accept that One Piece runs on different logic than the real world.
Blue flames burn hotter than magma but Oda won't be told otherwise.
I mean that's not unique to One Piece, every form of media fricks up something massively when it comes to representation like that
applying it just to One Piece is weird
It's fricking ONE PIECE.
Sanji's immune to flames because his heart burns hotter.
Zoro can speak with a sword in his mouth because he speaks through his heart.
Nami can hurt Luffy because she hits him where it hurts.
and Superman doesn't crumple everything he lifts into dust due to tactile telekinesis, not really any different
>Nami can hurt Luffy because she hits him where it hurts.
It's over
>onepiecegays think oda invented wacky physics
zoom
I'm not saying he invented it, I'm saying that One Piece runs on logic far too different to the real world to feasibly work.
It'd be like giving Bugs Bunny serious stats.
every single piece of fiction where a human size character can punch hard enough to make a building explodes doesn't work in real life physics.
They already have base Luffy at mftl speeds
Luffy is already FTL
They already put Luffy as "13x speed of light" at base
Narutobros…..
Thats honestly the first actually interesting thing he's done with this form.
Ichigo has more dimensions than the entire DCverse combined.
>djtiki doesn't get it
>Wants gojo vs makima
>Swan calls gvm his Dio vs alucard
Lmao
I'll take this a million times over Light vs Columbo
I could write a story about Goku taking a shit and it would probably have more fans than whatever word salad Otto dumps out.
It's funny how DC and Marvel keep trying to do some pretentious faux philisophical shit with their characters and people care more about fanspiction about Goku unlocking a slightly more blue haired form and fighting Zeno's dad or whatever.
Philosophy is boring, faux philosophy is boring, pointless and pretentious.
>Dragon ball? Another Roman victim
Based and roman pilled, all of dragon ball will acknowledge him
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ENTER
THE BIG THREE
>Not Natsu but yes
>Natsu not even in the thumbnail
>Natsu the first one KO'd
Also funny how pretty much the whole thing is both Natsu and Naruto fighting Luffy, and Luffy is still winning the majority of it.
>Doesn’t go beyond base forms
This is a very misleading thumbnail
>according to swan, the Greek gods of God of war are the same as their mythology counterparts
>so kratos gets scaling to this hidden lore
>Bare minimum universal
This is not a fight you asura gays want to have.
isn't the fight just scaling to an infinite universe but with hax vs scaling to an infinite universe but growing stronger over time
to swan, the Greek gods of God of war are the same as their mythology counterparts
Reminder that only Zeus and Hades are strong. The rest can job to humans
Yeah, the Trojan war is an endless stream of Ls for some of them. Ares gets b***hed by a human.
>Swan says!
Meanwhile the people who actually worked on the series and the games themselves say thats bullshit. Hence why most people dont want Kratos VS Asura as its just Common Sense VS Fanfiction and Death Battle is run by fanfic gays who grossly overwank everything to the point it isnt even the same character anymore.
Though then again even playing the wank game Asura would still get Kratos esque shit via infinite Naraka and "omnipotent" statement wank
Well he's the research lead for the show. I doubt Ben and Chad will suddenly pull rank and call it bs. Like who on the research team will disagree?
Oh I am fairly sure those morons would give the wank to Kratos. It'd just be especially laughable as Kratos has literally nothing to back him.
A hypothetical ep would literally be:
>Here's a guy with clips and scenes of him ACTUALLY moving ftl, beating a guy who can flip an elephant with just his thumb, tanked impalement from the moon to earth like nothing, punching out multiple stars, breaking through dimensions by punching good etc etc
>Here's the other guy who struggles with bears and monsters way smaller and weaker than those the other guy clowned on, jobs to impalement twice, and struggling with far lesser shit
Then go "oh no Kratos wins because fanfiction lore! Here is one statement that vaguely supports our headcanon. Just ignore similar text wank for the other guy and every instance both in game and from the devs saying Kratos isnt as strong as we say he is"
It is the epitome of silly and most people just laugh at dumbasses who unironically buy fanfic Kratos
>Meanwhile the people who actually worked on the series and the games themselves say thats bullshit
They contradict themselves so who gives a frick. Don't write kratos fighting gods or include lore from the actual mythologies if you never intended him to be stronger than spooderman.
There's probably some versions of Zeus that 616 Spider-Man could beat.
You act like tons of media doesnt throw myth beings in them and not have them on the same level of their wanked source counterparts.
Or what you think Billy from Grim Adventures can dunk on Kratos because he beat Thor and took over Grim Adventures version of Asgard solo?
>you can't make your own interpretations of public domain characters because... YOU JUST CAN'T OK???
I think this one is just autistic.
>portrays the gods to actually be more powerful and yoinks the cosmology, akin to capeshit
>NOOOOOO IT'S STREET LEVEL IM THE WRITERRRR
You can't have your cake and it eat too, b***h.
>you can't just take concepts and names and slap them to an original character because... YOU JUST CAN'T!!
Yup, he's autistic alright
Did you even read the post?
I did. Your genetically fricked brain can't understand that people can just take cool words from something then put it on anything. Also you're clearly a moron since you don't even consider that the mythologies themselves could in fact be symbolic, a basic concept when tackling anything theological. So maybe when Thor says he shakes the world in the Eddas, maybe he means Scandinavia or even just the island. Language and syntax apply.
Yep you didn't, confirmed low IQ.
Samegay
Kratos can job to Roman Reigns too
They verifiably aren't the same though, this is just fraudulent.
This kind of deliberate misinterpretation is why some people say SMT is the strongest verse.
>This kind of deliberate misinterpretation is why some people say SMT is the strongest verse.
uh?
the point is that they were demonized by Yhwach. They absolutely did what their myths say.
Yhwach is from Bleach tho
that was the autocorrect. I meant to Yhwach
don't lie tripgay
Moloch literally ate babies
>1 event transcurs
>UMMMM ALL THE MYTHS HAPPENED EVEN THOUGH THE GAMES CONTRADICT IT
megaten wankers are pathetic, and you, tripgay, are the worst
>1 event
Hey. It's canon in SMT IV, IVA and V.
In the fricking Gacha, most events are Gods trying to continue what they did in their mythos after seeing the absolute state of the World.
fricking tzitzimitl almost devoured the sun.
Their myths are the basis. Thor from smt3 appeared in the Gacha and created an universe. You don't see that in the myths
How the frick can you claim that when Hindu and Lovecraft shit is below Christian mythology in that universe? That literally requires them to be scaled back to fit. Kali is literally a multiversal destroyer in actual Hindu mythology but is just a regular demon in SMT.
>is below
that's the thing. they are not. they are equal.
what matters here is how humans affect the Expanse and in turn the Gods.
even in SMTV, a nerfed Shiva didn't give a frick about Yhvh or Yhvh-absorbed Lucifer.
Gods scale to archetypes
SMTWANK AND FATEWANK IS THE SAME THING AAAAA
>same thing
anon. DC did the same thing. You know, The metaverse and Superman being the archetype of Hope.
DC just doesn't put the whole justice league as avatars of Hope or Will.
>hop on the thread after a few hours
>see fanfiction about tripgays and weebshit
We should've /trash/ed this place years ago
Otto is an actual comic creator, believe it or not, my criticisms are both genuine and allowed.
I don't care. Post your a-log somewhere else. Take the trip-gay with you if possible.
I wish I could take him elsewhere, but he just won't frick off.
>>see fanfiction about tripgays and weebshit
Where do you think we are?
A third of the matches this season have been anime related, and the same applies last season.
>Vswiki tourists
>Yatesgays
>Nasufrauds
>Redditgays
>Dragonfrauds
ALL VICTIMS TO THE TRIBAL SWEEP
It'd be actual hype to see roman reigns on the show. A lot more than shit kratos, fanfic Simon vs Kyle, or whatever garbage mu this thread shills.
Big Dawg baby
Could he beat Hogan? Peak Andre era Hogan?
Honestly the tiers in terms of WWE at this point goes like this
>God tier: Vince, Hulkamania Hogan, Macho Madness, Tribal Chief Roman
>S tier: Austin, Rock, Perc Angle, Streak Taker
A tier: Michaels, Cena, Randy orton, Batista
Roman somehow went from one of the worst things about WWE to probably one of it's all time greatest Heels.
It's a pity his TRVE SOVL matchup is too much for Death Battle.
>swan already admitted that kratos is stronger and would still win with equalized stats via hax
Let me tell you how the fight would go:
>Asura is seemingly winning the fight
>Kratos suddenly throws asura to the end of the universe and kills him
>Analysis has gow cosmology being higher because of muh Greek gods and shiet
>"Even if we equalized stats, the outcome wouldn't change"
>chart shows the various tools kratos has gotten from his journeys including those from the first 3 games even though he shouldn't have them to asura's being only his fists
>"Kratos' wrath was just too much for asura to handle"
Thankfully it didn't win.
What fricking "hax" does Kratos even HAVE? He's as traditional of a brick as you can get in a setting based on Greek/Norse mythology
Medusa's head
Kratosgays need to kneel to Fateshit for including shit from mythology tbh.
You don't even need to wank fate, surface level understanding of Gil and Arthur would wreck Kratos.
Why didn't people wank Kratos this bad back when you could maybe assume GoW mythology was one and the same with Greek mythology as a whole? He lost to Spawn back then.
Now we know the pantheons have to share a single planet, shrinking feats like Atlas down from universe tier to continent tier, but this is when we're supposed to think Kratos is even a planet buster?
Its called bias.
Bias usually results in more believable wank embellishment, scaling, conjecture etc. Kratos wank doesn't even have that. I relies on scaling him to other fiction he verifiably doesn't scale to.
YHVH with V damn it
I curse the machine
I hope to god that Record of Ragnarok never gets on this show, it's fricking dogshit and the fact that Swank had a character from it as an avatar at some point (don't know and don't care if he still does) means that it'll probably win.
It's the worst shit I've ever read, and I read Otto's stuff.
Thank frick they fricked up the anime. Otherwise we probably would have gotten Asura vs Adam or some shit.
I still don’t know the logic for Jack the Ripper beating Hercules
>Lightning McQueen can survive crashing into Earth in speeds beyond 75000mph and re-entry
who the frick could take him on?
He kneels to the Big Rig
Big Rig has infinite speed, Intangibility/Indestructibility + Omnipresence, most of this thread kneels to Big Rig.
Everything kneels to the Big Rig, even the Flash
only 5D or above beings can survive the big rig
omnipresence grants his 4D scaling
>Big Rig attempts to run Lightning McQueen over
>he just fazes through him because he has no collision
Lightning McQueen wins again
>permanently stuck on tracks
Lightning McQueen wins yet again
The Big Rig emits light from it's rear lights, which carry a tiny bit of energy from the Big Rig away which reflects off of McQueen
However because the Big Rig is currently has the energy to destroy the universe a billion times over, even that minuscule bit of energy transferred through it's rear lights is sufficient to destroy McQueen, the planet, the solar system and likely the entire Galaxy
Thomas the Tank Engine would tear him to shreds.
Chitty bang bangs him.
What about Herbie?
Herbie probably wins as well. His durability is really good.
Even the Japanese mythology is wonky with legendary figures getting placed above actual gods.
SMT and Fategays try and use the same wank, but the thing is that they just aren't impressive settings.
Fate is an urban fantasy trying to pretend like it's a frickin big budget capeshit movie.
At least SMT has actually good games.
What?