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Notes on the latest podcast:
>Guests are the rappers who did Miles vs Static, Ryu vs Jin, BA vs Apo, and technically Balrog vs Combo
>Omega Sparx is a fan of the show
>Torrian is a fan of Sparx and SWAT
>Swan says that Ken vs Terry might not be the same if done today
>Fight was selected by guests
>Sparx representing Ken, SWAT representing Rock
>Sparx and SWAT mostly focusing on qualitative arguments, sort of subjective stuff
>Feels like a Deadliest Warrior debate
>Swan says Rock is like a Geese+Terry character, style-wise
>When asked about stats, neither Sparx or SWAT has an actual answer
>SWAT actually brings up a panel
>Swan trying to lead arguments and the discussion
>A lot of fighting game theorycrafting
>Ben says Trunks vs Silver obviously has Trunks win with Swan agreeing, which is why they did Xeno vs Archie
>Ben says he likes Archie Silver better than 06 Silver
>Swan is directing and writing for the episode after Trunks vs Silver, is the one he is the most excited for the entire year
>Ben tries to lead the discussion to powerscaling
>Sparx is not good at this, SWAT at least brought pictures and seems to have done some research
>The first mention of biggatons and % FTL comes in a community answer
>Ken wins with the tiebreaker
What about Grim vs Ainz
Come back next week, I'll do it then. Or maybe earlier, if I get time.
Wait did the episode not come out yet? I thought it was today?
The record the podcast on Tuesday, and release it to the general public on Friday. It means that podcast anon is effectively a week behind.
>>Ben says Trunks vs Silver obviously has Trunks win with Swan agreeing, which is why they did Xeno vs Archie
>>Ben says he likes Archie Silver better than 06 Silver
At least they addressed the obvious
Ken vs Rock sounds like a fun match just for animation reasons
Karate chops him so hard he turns into orange fish sticks.
Sub giant clam.
Tell those people to stop huffing glue.
Silver's characterization was shit, but it wasn't a complete joke like Trunks, so he wins.
Jason is a spree killer, Michael is a serial killer.
He serially killed those campers
I more meant "Who's a better character?"
>the creator of Archie Silver says Trunks should’ve won
>Ben, the CREATOR OF THE DEATH BATTLE ITSELF, says Trunks should’ve won
>Archiechuds will STILL screech that “I-it doesn’t count!”, and, “S-Silverchads keep on winning, b-baby! I TOTALLY knew who this character was and cared about them before I saw the DB preview!”
Chadnks won, just admit it already. Everyone else did.
word of god means nothing
Its just a fan fiction VS video why do DBZgays always get like this after one of their characters lose?
definitely nta, but I'm gonna guess most casual db viewers; who are also big dragon ball fans, aren't that fimilar with the opponents they've lost to. Going back to Goku vs Superman 1, seems many only knew about the supes from the movies/DCAU and assumed that was the best/strongest he could be. I remember reading a bunch comments that were surprised when they brought up his true feats from the comics.
For this season, I'm guessing they only know Thor from the MCU and Silver from Sonic06.
your reading comprehension shouldn't be this fricking shitty, anon
I've been waiting for this.
like a Deadliest Warrior debate
So it feels like kino?
>they confirm that the Halloween episode is gonna be serial killers, essentially reconfirmed the possibility of Jason vs Michael
I was gonna make a joke of it being kira vs Adachi (which I wouldn't hate), but then said Swan is most excited for Spongie vs Aqua, so that rules out more Jojowanking.
>*a certain slasher killer commission track ominously plai in the background*
We need a fighting game fight and a Rooster Teeth fight.
>Swan's excited for the next fight
it's gonna get autistically rigged, isn't it?
>SWAKU SWAKU, I’M GETTIN’ KIND OF EXCITED!
Town Level Jason
>it's gonna get autistically rigged, isn't it?
I think that over half of the fights this season have been autistically rigged or wanked in one way or the other, including this previous one. Silver vs Trunks managed to call the attention of an official head writer and cause him trouble though, so that one is exceptional. It also calls my attention that this time it was Ultra who fricked up hard, rather than Swan. So it looks like replacing or removing Swan would not solve all of the problem withing the research team.
Yeah it's not like they didn't have shitty results before Swan came along or at least got to where he is standing wise *coughTifavsYangcough*
A lot of fights in the first three seasons are atrocious when it comes to their results. But seasons 5-7 weren't that bad, in that regard. It was with seasons 8 and 9 that things again started to decline within the research team.
Again, this is why they need guys like Seth and Chuck to actually do the fricking research rather the moronic research team they have right now
>Sneed and cuck to do the research
>"And this is why this character who has never destroyed one universe can destroy 16 quintillion universes"
No thanks, Seth is a moron, I'd rather we didn't move on from DIALS to Krillin being worth 10 billion Multiverses or whatever.
Well goddamn anons, who do you want then? cause I want someone who doesn't fricking downplay DBZ considering the fricking Archie writer said Trunks should've won
>I want someone to handjob my favorite anime
And that is why you fail.
Ideally they would have two sides present their argument and then have some third party pick who they agree with. Deadliest Warrior did that. That way both sides end up looking cool and supported.
Their research also blows in general. They look at reddit respect threads and call it a day. They don't actually read the comics for context.
>Downplay
They wanked Trunks in that fight. They had to scale and compare him to people he has never once gotten close to surpassing just to make the fight look fair. You were watching a BOOSTED version of Trunks get cut in half, and you believed that it was the official version, that is your own fault. Also, bonus question, but why do DBgays think the entire world is against them the second something doesn't go their way?
>Wtf, why do these fanfiction writers act like their own opinion is correct??
Gee anon, I couldn't tell you. It is physically impossible for me to explain how and why someone with their own personal beliefs would see themselves as in the right.
They wank the shit out of Dragon Ball. Only one character is definitely universe level and everyone else is miles beneath him
You legit think that Beerus is above Jiren
Cap, then why do they lose? Vegeta clearly had no way to win the thor fight
lol they wanked Silver too, I knew they were gonna pull some Chronos Control wank
>Why did they lose
Because they made Vegeta's multipliers too small, should've made him fuse with Cuckarot.
Higher power levels typically indicate worse writing though, because it implies that you've done nothing but serial escalation up to the point where the mega infinity super multiverse gets deleted every week.
BIGGER BIGGER BIGGER gives you shit like Starkiller Base or Palpatines Death Star Destroyer Fleet. It's just lazy writing 101.
Comics suffer from it a lot because they've been going on for so long.
Though even then most of the high end feats are just outliers anyway.
That's the funny thing, most of feats from people like superman and megatron and even Saint Seiya are all anecdotal, its from them saying it, yet we never see them game end universes etc
nobody in fiction ever visually destroys universes unless you're a weird exception like Earthworm Jim
Saint Seiya does have some timeline busting on the assasssin g manga
in every other instance, atom hax/cosmo manip conveniently doesn't destroy the planet oonce the attack is done
>Saint Seiya are all anecdotal
Not really anymore.
I understand your reasoning, but at a certain point you gotta take statements and hyperbole at face value. Not all writers are going to let their heroes destroy even a planet.
If you only could actual shown feats, then that makes Toriko one of the strongest Jump series since we actually see those guys carve chunks out of a gigantic planet. But we do need to take a lot of things like GoD Statements seriously cause the setting of DB does call for it. So yeah, we awkwardly jump from characters like Broly and Cell Max barely managing to make a dent on Earth, to Beerus and Champa getting in an argument supposedly almost destroying two universes, but that's just what you have to accept even if it makes little sense.
I understand too anon, its just confusing all around
I don't see how two Athena Exclamations almost destroying the universe is any less valid than the universe threatening shockwave from BoG.
OG saint seiya didn't had universes being intentionally destroyed. It had,however, hades life force being attached to his creation (which included a galaxies worth corridor, an endless paradise, and dante's hell with wallpaper stars and dimensions.), and his death destroyed them. The feat in question is the good guys surviving said explosion and such. Spin Offs are bit trickier. Episode G works on the idea that all those attacks we thought were mere illusions are actually real. Meaning the galaxian explosion are actually exploding galaxies. But others like LC follows a more conservative approach whereby the characters don't do anything impressive. The official sequal ND took a middle ground. In one hand
>character are just LS
In the other hand
>pic related
And
>But others like LC
what if Saint Seiya was Naruto? that's all there is to LC. nobody should take it seriously.
>like naruto
Tenma had an actual relationship with Alone as like spending all their childhood together, so him chasing him made more sense. And sasha is everything sakura wished to be.
The two Athena Exclamations going off would have destroyed the universe if it weren't for the bronze saints pulling off some cosmo miracle.
>saints
Shiryu, and it was only if it continued infinitely otherwise it would only be a nuke like explosion as seen with shaka
They said it would have continued infinity if no one stopped it.
Yes which is precisely why the feat in question is invalid as we never saw its full effect unlike with hades death explosion and such
sometimes i figure that with all of these crisis events where the multiverse is being abused like a redheaded step middle child that maybe the dc and marvel universes are held together by superglue and band aids and it's just that easy to destroy them lol.
i give saint seiya the benefit of the doubt cause it has a reason why things don't randomly explode all the time and it applies to the entire universe cause they all have the same power source and standard power set
I tried to watch the new Saint Seiya, it was terrible and hard to watch, idk wtf was I watching, how does this show have a fanbase lol they don't even break the environment around them when they launch an attack or anything like that their attacks look like Building level in the anime btw.
Beerus literally sneezed accidently and destroyed a planet and he only uses 2% of his power when he fights he's pretty fricking overpowered
SS attacks are focused at the atomic level. You wanna break a rock, you crush it in your grip by spitting the atoms that make up the rock. This level of control is corroborated by the way Gemini Kanon killed Balrog Lune in the Hades Saga
Oh, ok thanks for the explanation, thats still crazy that dumb kid in armor Composite wise can beat some versions of Superman and Goku, doesn't he need a necklace to transform though btw
Seiya's not composited in most battleboards, the original series is one straight story. You can bring in Omega for more esoteric boons like resisting time stop and destroying at the quark level, though.
>doesn't he need a necklace to transform though
I think that's Sailor Moon? Seiya doesn't transform... well not in the way you think. He doesn't need his cloth to be powerful, but the setting takes armor seriously so the characters can cut each other up with their bare hands so armor is necessary if you wanna excel in your field. He does power up to a gold Pegasus cloth in the Poseidon Saga because it was blessed by the blood of a gold saint and later it became a God cloth by being blessed by Athena's blood, though. Cosmo is also an undulating power source unlike Ki. Drawn out fights are decided by who can play the long game better and achieve a higher cosmo peak
Im remember in omega anime he needed a necklace and this guy stole it or something idk, I could be miswatching a scene or something
yeah, but people in this thread do not think any universal feat where it it not shown a universe being destroyed counts
Cops need a warrant
Why would superman get a free pass?
Also looking for people to save is hero complex.
He’s not a cop. He’s just a good dude who steps in to save others from being hurt
By breaking the law and the people's individual rights?
He is just a vigilante that breaks into houses without a warrant.
>Mini-me desperately trying to justify watching from a closet as his dad beat his mom into a stupor
Yeah, that’s the thing about being a superhero, you don’t follow the law otherwise you would just be a cop. But Good Samaritan either way. Also if you’re beating your wife you kinda deserve to have someone break in to save her
Do you expect Supes to just sit by and watch while some kid is getting his face caved in by his pop? I get that Goku is a psychopathic monster with no redeeming qualities, but that doesn't mean EVERYONE needs to be like that, anon.
Goku focuses on his life and goals alongside those of his direct friends and family, not the entire world as someone with messiah complex would.
aka, like a normal human would.
Or do you go out of your way to save starving children on some shithole country all day?
supes busts into houses and watches thru their walls.
If he wanted to get the abusive dad in jail for goood, he'd get evidence first, not abuse his superhuman strength to invade a legally innocent man's house.
It says a lot that you assume others don't do anything charitable.
Don't judge others by the low standards you hold yourself to.
if you assume a majority don't do this then you have a frame of reference that would indicate the average doesn't do it, so any given individual could be seen as someone who doesn't participate in such charities
https://www.lendingtree.com/debt-consolidation/charitable-donations-survey-study/
Don't assume people are as malignantly useless as yourself.
>link
gonna disregard that shit.why the venom? i spoke of why he'd draw that conclusion and you lashed out like some impotent liberal. i'm going to assume you're going through a rough patch or you're in some kind of trouble for you to react like this
"I'm not going to help others because no one helps others" is a child's opinion. Grow up. Society, as in the one you live in, as in the one that subsidizes your existence, is built on communities.
>a child's opinion
and you have a child's reading comprehension. if you had any wisdom in that flat head of yours you'd be able to tell i don't share his opinions by something as simple as assuming you're going through something to be this much of a poisonous manchild online over people questioning Superman of all things. nothing in my post betrayed a lack of trust or regard for others and their moral fiber... tell me tripgay are you going through something right now or are you just insufferable by nature?
>If he wanted to get the abusive dad in jail for goood, he'd get evidence first, not abuse his superhuman strength to invade a legally innocent man's house.
Then it’s a good thing he isn’t a cop and can kick a child beating piece of shit’s ass
That is both god complex and vigilantism.
Stopping wars can actually put the world in danger.
Do you think there is any reason why the US or Japan have not killed the North Korean dictator by now?
Because that'd trigger a nuclear war with China.
Supes randomly placing his authority over others is risky and part of having a god complex
>Goku has some sort of obligation to protect the planet instead of just his family and friends.
He is not superman nor has a hero complex.
I’ll take that over being a coward
>Stopping wars is bad because it...prevents more wars from happening?
What? Fricking what? The frick are you trying to tell us here anon.
>Do NOT stop domestic abuse. Let children be beaten
>Do NOT stop martial abuse. Beating on your wife/husband is good
>Do NOT keep people safe. You need the proper documentations first
>Do NOT stop wars. That would mean there'd be less wars in the world
Are all DBSpics as insane as this guy?
>Saving people is bad!
>Keeping children safe is evil
>Just let everyone die already you monster!
You okay there Notto? You're saying some weird shit.
>Anon is over here calling for DC to do some Comic Civil War bullshit because he doesn't like the idea of superheroes being able to solve crimes.
How about we don't do that because that's the gayest shit imaginable for a story arc?
If you do as a basis for a story then that you get dogshit like BNHA.
Anon, that's just Adam West Batman.
>solve crimes without proper legal procedure.
All clark is doing is getting abusers off jail by being seized illegally
If he wanted to help people, he'd try to get evidence and giving it to the police.
But they do arrest those guys and those guys do go to jail in the comics.
> he'd try to get evidence and giving it to the police
Isn't that basically what he does as Clark Kent?
Anon, you don't need a warrant to stop a crime that is in the process of actually happening and you have proof of through say, x-ray vision or superhearing.
You only typically need a warrant to search stuff for evidence of a crime.
You fricking moron.
Also the Justice League are a recognized and approved organization by the World's Governments.
It's just sad that such potential is squandered because the characters need to brutally murder one another when it could just be a fight to KO for a vast majority of cases. A huge offender is Nightwing vs Daredevil, where they just start trying to fricking kill each other for no reason whatsoever. "Hey, I'm trying to use that case to solve a crime." resulting in trying to kill each other.
It's silly.
Imagine how much less seething there would be if the hero vs hero fights ended with no murder and graceful victory or whatever.
>Nightwing vs Daredevil
Honestly, that one didn’t even LOOK like a death. Just seems like Daredevil got knocked the frick out.
>Sorry little Timmy, I can't keep you safe from your father's beatings. Some random Pedro online said it's wrong to keep people safe and protected from threats. I'll see you in 4-5 business weeks once I've got the proper legal documents.
>Or do you go out of your way to save starving children on some shithole country all day?
If I had god-like powers that allowed me to do practically fricking anything I would. Injustice Superman literally stopped all wars by putting his foot down, but you're gonna sit here and say that it's bad because he didn't ask the UN first?
>Higher power levels typically indicate worse writing
>HURR OVID IS A WORSE WRITER BECAUSE GODS TOO OP DURR
Holy shit, anon. Way to have your entire appreciation of literature colored by power level arguments.
It all rests on the Goku vs Beerus fight. It's the foundation of a house of cards.
No?
Infinite Zamasu is 100% a living timeline and Jiren shaking the world of void are both univeral if not higher feats.
>he thinks Infinite Zamasu was actually a "living timeline"
>he thinks shaking a pocket dimension filled with empty space and a floating platform is impressive
Are DBS fanboys really this lacking in sense of scale?
Empty Space has energy
It is compromised of more energy than matter
Yeah, but that would apply to any dimension-fricking feat as well, so it's still not that impressive.
Incidentally, most dimension-fricking feats in general are considered to be "unquantifiable" in most versus debating spheres.
And holy shit, "CapeworldComics#Autobots" actually does work.
just in case some dropouts don't know what we are talking about
Dark Energy
https://scienceblogs.com/startswithabang/2012/07/26/empty-space-has-more-energy-than-everything-in-the-universe-combined
>but that would apply to any dimension-fricking feat as well
Somewhat yes
>so it's still not that impressive.
I argue the opposite. Doing that by sheer strength is more impressive than whatever the speedforce and etc seem to have done to an universe.
Manipulating spaces is manipulating three dimesions vs manipulating just one (time).
rewinding timelines keep spaces constant.
Well, technically, manipulating space is also the same as manipulating time, since space and time are interconnected.
well yes but.. I mean, that means that shaking space is equal to shaking time. And Jiren never once did anything time related. well, yes, He defeated Jiren timestop but you know
>"He defeated Jiren timestop but you know"
>IESLB
Did I actually legitimately catch you off guard or something? I think you meant *Hit's* timestop.
>Says serial escalation is bad because it generally means that the author couldn't think of anything interesting to do with the story other than FRICK IT BIGGER THREATS BIGGER EXPLOSIONS BIGGER STAKES ALL NEW ALL DIFFERENT THIS WILL CHANGE EVERYTHING
>hurrrrrrrrrrr you must just hate strong characters! I bet you hate mythology too!
Otto my boy, please stop acting like a moron.
>he thinks you can't write "serial escalation" properly
>he thinks that "high power levels" typically indicate serial escalation, because his conception of power in fiction is colored entirely by vs debates, powerscaling arguments, and battle shonenshit
Read more books WITHOUT pictures, dude.
>Why do they lose? Mi héroes should be winning every single fight!
They lose because Dragon Ball is a weak verse. Maybe if the fans stopped deluding themselves into believing that DB is somehow the strongest thing on Earth, they'd be less surprised when people when their characters got their shit pushed in by people with ACTUAL strength.
>Th-they wanked Silver!
Yeah, by comparing him to characters he can actually scale to. Oh no, how horrid! A somewhat correct scaling chain! When are morons going to open their eyes and realize that Dragon Ball didn't create big explosions and planetary+ stakes, and that there are obviously verses stronger than them?
I can confidently say that there were more people upset about their perception of Goku and Dragon Ball getting shattered, than there were people upset about Goku dying. It was still a great fight regardless.
Anon, Superman was pulling an entire solar systems' worth of planets and sneezing away galaxies before Goku was even a concept. Fricking Superboy Prime got mad one day and just retconned reality with a punch. When was the last universal feat for Dragon Ball again?
DB heroes is stronger than a lot of verses tho
Lol. Yeah, the spin-off game where you can literally count the number of universes and timelines is a very strong verse. It's a literal cycle with you people.
>Mi héroes are the strongest! Nothing can beat them!
>NOOOOO HOW COULD THEY LOSE WHAT THE FRICK! THIS ISN'T CORRECT DRAGON BALL IS THE STRONGEST!
>They must've lost because they forgot XYZ! That's what it is! (Somehow ignores how wanked their character was during the fight)
>Yup yup, Dragon Ball is the strongest verse in the world! Nothing can beat them.
Rinse repeat etc. It's going to be like this until you morons can take off your rose tinted glasses.
I mean, Buu was destroying the universe in the Z anime and Goku was destroying dimensions on GT.
I mean, Superman just does is jack off on the sun to get stronger and imposes his viewpoint upon others on earth while Goku was born shit tier on his own race and had to become stronger thru training and learning from others
Is it that rare that people like Goku more?
Superman's only relevant role in the 2000s is becoming evil in injustice and becoming a zombie.
Also Goku doesn't go meddling in other people's business around the world nor imposes his viewpoint on human society.
I mean, Heroes is still stronger than a lot of series.
the new saint seiya is shit compared to the classic series.
Watch the original anime, 12 houses saga is peak shonen.
I can't tell if its bait or if Mini-me's only exposure to Superman and Goku comes from Internet comments.
or maybe you just do not know dragon ball?
Lol what it’s only imposing your viewpoint to stop someone from robbing a bank you pussy
Superman interferes with domestic violence unprompted and flies across the world looking for people that scream for help.
Sounds like a great guy to me
>Domestic violence good
Is there something you want to share with the group, Mini-me?
Do you see me as a surrogate father figure?
Superman literally fricking gets bossed like a b***h by Batman, a dude with no fricking powers or any shit, he has flaws in some ways tbh
Batman is even more of a mary sue than supes
he conveniently has the exact thing he needs at every situation.
Him having a machine that restores memories of being batman that works only on him is the worst offense
>Him having a machine that restores memories of being batman that works only on him is the worst offense
Why would it restore memories of being Batman to anyone but Batman
that's not what he meant. what he meant is that ideological conundrums in Superman comics boil down to "I'm right you're wrong because the setting enables me and I'm stronger too btw" which is reflected flawlessly by how people in this website defend his ideology calling him the perfect human we should all aspire to be and mistakenly calling him a hero. let's call a spade a spade, Superman is a good goy/citizen and not a hero
>that's not what he meant. what he meant is that ideological conundrums in Superman comics boil down to "I'm right you're wrong because the setting enables me and I'm stronger too btw" which is reflected flawlessly by how people in this website defend his ideology calling him the perfect human we should all aspire to be and mistakenly calling him a hero. let's call a spade a spade, Superman is a good goy/citizen and not a hero
No, he’s right because stealing and causing destruction is wrong and you shouldn’t do those things
>tfw stealing and causing destruction is wrong and you shouldn’t do those things
Who cares what a bunch of marks think? if you think it's legit then stand by it
I'm mexican btw
>When people when their characters
Damn, I need to stop rant writing.
>Proves my point
Yes yes mi compadre, Goku is super strong! Dragon Ball is uber powerful! In fact, here's something that shows just how strong the verse is!
>DBSpics support assaulting your own children
This explains so much.
Leme rephrase anon, what I meant was that DBZ made the thought of that seem more thematic, hell, all Shonen battles Death Battle has is very DBZ inspired or hints of it such a rocks breaking etc
>Dragon Ball invented breaking rocks
T-toryiama-sama! Thank you for blessing humanity with the gift of jackhammers!
>They need new researchers
No shit.
>Seethe and Chuck
Ew. Why replace IQ 90's with IQ 85's?
>Seth and Chuck become official researchers
>Instead of having fights like mainstream anime man vs literal who comic guy, you get mainstream comic guy vs literal who anime man
Wow, what an improvement! When are you guys going to realize that it's not the researchers who're the issue, it's the fact that you're trying to do research in a field that is literally built around your own personal biases. I am not exaggerating when I say that the only reason people care about Death Battle and also hate it is due to the fact that it validates or disproves their perception of their favourite verse.
You think people got mad because Goku lost to Superman? Frick no, they got mad because they were told "No, Dragon Ball isn't the strongest anime in the entire world". Death Battle exists simply to give morons a wake-up call while indulging in what's basically fanfiction in video form, but the "research" aspect of it muddles people's mind, and that ends up making them think that their scrimblo bimbo franchise is as strong as the numbers some random fricker in Texas slapped onto the verse.
tldr; Get rid of the research shit entirely, or just put "THIS IS OUR OWN PERSONAL OPINION, THIS IS WHAT WE THINK" on every video so people don't get pissy when their favourite character loses. Which is funny, since Ben already admitted to the entire thing being opinion-based.
Im aware of this but they act like their right, look at Android 18 vs Captain Marvel, yea im happy 18 won but like, Captain Marvel is pretty strong herself to just die like that and they said 18 was giga light speed, which ain't true, and the problem is, the DC morons are overstated as shit, they never preform most of the feats they do in a single comic its always nitpicking if they just had the favorites win their wouldn't be as much hatred as there is, look at Broly vs Hulk, noone gave a shit, very few debunks and Deathbattles reason for having Broly win was moronic and made no sense but I liked the outcome
Bro.
Comics were operating at a higher power level than anime back when Tojo was running Japan.
They need to know their role and stay in their lane.
>higher power level = queality?
Yeah. Tho, i doubt she'd want to fight a Warriors or Smash Bros Lyn regardless.
I say FE7 vs LB2 Hibiki would be the most fair
>Higher power level=quality
Of course not, Mini-me, but I'd take any given Alfred Bester story from the 40's over what runs in Shonen Jump.
>DBZ invented blowing up planets
Come on. Even you don't believe that.
DBZ didn't invent blowing up planets but it invented looking good while doing it. Eat shit, Alderaan
Bro, DBZ created the whole explosion world shit, on a thematic level, Death Battle would be nothing without DBZ
Both are ok, its hard to make good MU's for DBZ
>You think people got mad because Goku lost to Superman?
You think they didn't? That not one complaint was by people who valued Goku as a nostalgic character? LOL
Superman IMPd the earth into oblivion and homosexuals still praise the fight
Yeah but he REALLY needed Goku dead.
Then he used the earth's dragon balls (???) to revive the planet and goku (???) and them blames him for the destruction of the planet (???), then goku in hell says that he doesn't want to become stronger anymore (???) because people with infinite 3D ap exist (???)
yes, good fight
>seth
I trust sugg opinion over his any day of the week
I don't know how much you can rig that unless he makes Aquaman actually win somehow.
I guess he's excited since it's an episode where he can put all of his shitty humor, like when he wrote Death Race
He's talking about Spongebob vs Aquaman
Autistic yes but not rigged, everyone agrees that Aquaman is fricked. I hope the fight ends up being more like Goomba VS Koopa and less like Randy VS KAM
Frisk vs Batter
Batter is for Cthulhu
The one from "cthulhu saves the world" or something like that?
yes
I wanna frick Jocelyn
>Wanting to frick Felecia Day clone 861.
Have some standards.
With his superior self-esteem and public image
so how strong is super friends Aquaman?
People are saying he has a star level feat but honestly idk
Not very
DB but it's a contest as to who has a better characterization
you would have to crack open books or watch non-action live action showruns to find the strongest characters and we all know that'll never happen.
>DB but it's a contest as to who has a better characterization
You mean accurate characterization in Death Battle? Snake, Raiden (vs Wolverine), Poe, Lion-O, He-Man, Bayonetta, Harley Quinn, Deadpool, The Mask, and Pinkie P. come to mind.
Picking RWBY and RvB characters is unfair, I suppose.
>Bayonetta
Speaking of witch, looks like it's time to start the media blackout. This is it. Game Informer and other sites got hands on it, and stuff is starting to leak. They are also spoiling stuff from tomorrow's Mario Bros movie trailer.
Curse "journalists" mishandling their press kits and early review copies.
Like this?
>Is Sonic a better hero than Mario?
>Is Might Guy more of an inspiration than All-Might?
>Would Superman win an eating contest against Goku? NO LIMITS!
I think they mean who's portrayed better in the battles themselves
I think Jonathan's characterization was also really enjoyable
Silver's wasn't super accurate to Archie Silver but god DAMN I enjoyed it nevertheless
>Jonathan
The fricker killed a kid. It was OOC, and the epilogue scene didn't help, at all. He was an butthole.
At least they TRIED. There was no way he could’ve killed (remember, this is DB, not OMM) Tanjiro while being 100% in character, but at least they made him feel sad about it afterwards. I just don’t like how goofy they played him off to be; it killed what could’ve been a really emotional and tragic ending.
>Silver's wasn't super accurate to Archie Silver but god DAMN I enjoyed it nevertheless
Too bad it was debunked right away, by the creator himself.
>Anon talks about how he enjoyed the fight
>Random can't help but screech "DEBOOOOONKED ITS DEBOOONKED" unprovoked
And you wonder why people enjoy seeing Dragon Ball get shat on.
>And you wonder why people enjoy seeing Dragon Ball get shat on.
Archiegays aren't people, anon. They harass and attack their "favorite writers" and frick their own mothers.
I'm no archiegay, but boy I sure do enjoy seeing you DBtards eat shit. Most entertaining losers in the entire netsphere, even moreso than suicidal post-op trannies
Get fukt, homosexual
t. Ultra
>NOOO DON'T LIKE THINGS! DO NOT ENJOY SOMETHING THAT I DIDN'T LIKE!
Dear fricking lord. You can say the fight was good without being an Archiegay, how is that so hard to understand?
>Incest out of nowhere
Again, and you wonder why people enjoy seeing Dragon Ball eat shit. DBgays are so insufferable that they MAKE people want to see that franchise take L's.
>You can say the fight was good without being an Archiegay
Except even that would be a lie. Also, nobody asked for your opinion. Get gunned down by Omi or something.
>In order to like something, you must be attached to that franchise in the first place
>It is impossible to not be a fan of either franchise and still enjoy the battle
Amazing logic, DBSpic. Thank you for revitalizing my need to see Dragon Ball get fraudchecked, hopefully the next DB fight is Goku vs Sonic or some shit, at least another Sonic win would shut you guys up for a while.
It's also so funny that you mentioned Sonicgays attacking Ian, when DBTards were literally threatening to go after Ben's head the second they heard about the results, despite him not even having anything to do with the actual fight. The sheer lack of self-awareness here is fricking pathetic.
tldr;
>DBHispanic can't read
Shocker.
We will never forget the unjust outcome of this fight, we will cry, we will scream and we will fight for an alternate outcome
Yeah cuz that worked out so well for the Bengays lmao.
Imagine actually being a Ben 10 gay, that's just weird, maybe if it was Ben 10,000 its understandable that way it isn't a grown man killing a kid
>it isn't a pedo killing a kid
fixed
You can try but IT'S NO USE
If it's any consolation, 2 of the 3 officially debunked Death Battles involve Dragon Ball Ls.
>Trunks V.S Silver: Debatable
>Thor V.S Vegeta: Correct
>Goku V.S Superman 1 and 2: Correct
>Buu V.S Kirby: Correct
>Goku Black V.S Thawne: Correct
Not sure on what you mean by debunked, since the only questionable fight here is the one we just had, and that's only because of how the SGW operates.
>Thor V.S Vegeta
Not even Tom agrees with that one.
Reminder that Ultra Ego, Blue Evolved, and Blue don't even have official multipliers tied to them, and any kind of boost given to them is literal fanfiction. Vegeta was given fanfic numbers and still got his head crushed.
The Wave was way more powerful than the Keysword and Eternal Time Labyrinth, but it's nice to give DB fans a bone.
No Super form has Multipliers other than Blue most likely being 50x whatever God's Multi is if Toriyama stops being senile long enough to give it one.
Hell we still don't even have direct multis for Fusions yet.
>Toriyama stops being senile enough
Toriyama fricking hates numerical power levels, he never even gave multipliers to the Super Saiyan states if I recall correctly, it's all just guidebook and calc bullshit.
Like Super Saiyan is only 50x because it needs to be at least 50x stronger than Goku's base because 20x Kaioken wasn't as strong as Freeza's 50% power.
Super Saiyan 2 and 3 and 4 are all nebulous multipliers that don't make an incredible amount of sense.
Super Saiyan 2's only qualification is that it needs to make the user stronger, such is the same with 3.
Super Saiyan 2 being only a 2x multiplier makes a very small amount of sense because that buts Super Saiyan Grade 2, Grade 3 and Grade 4 at a power multiplication level of somewhere between 1.1-1.9x over base Super Saiyan, which is silly.
Basically, just don't think about it too hard, Toriyama didn't.
>I decided on the design for the Super Saiyan for, to be honest… a simple reason that will leave you saying “What?”. I always have only a single person, Assistant-kun, helping me with my work. That Assistant-kun’s time was always taken up doing the black fill of Goku’s hair, so the biggest reason was in order to save time. Because when he became a Super Saiyan, we wouldn’t have to do the black fill. It also had the effect of making it easy to tell from his appearance that Goku had gotten stronger, so it killed two birds with one stone. Only, at the time, it was considered that his strength would increase 50-fold when he became a Super Saiyan, but that was a bit of an exaggeration. My feeling as the creator is that, while drawing it, I felt that it was about a 10-fold change from what it was up to that point.
Toriyama meanwhile is so unreliable that while logically Super Saiyan would have to be 50x stronger to beat Freeza, he thinks that 10x would've done the trick, but at the same time "10-fold change from what it was up to that point" could easily imply that the Super Saiyan form was 10x stronger than Kaioken x20, meaning it's a 200x multiplier.
But honestly who fricking cares, multipliers are cringe.
SSJ is just "Stronger"
It's that simple
Does it? Super Genesis Wave is basically in a higher weight class than the Eternal Time Labyrinth
No. Ian Flynn, a writer for the Sonic comics, disagreed with the animation as he found that Silver getting the chaos emeralds and chronos gem was unfair as those arent his innate powers and that regular Trunks would wreck regular Silver
>Trunks gets ludicrous speed scaling when he can't even go around the planet in a second
>Gets all of his toys and the ultra powered up version of his weapon that required other characters boosting it
>Gets all the wank possible
>Still loses
Guess it's up to Jiren to show those losers how it's done.
I guess Jiren vs Thragg?? but they probably want to do Boros vs Battle Beast or Gohan vs Mark before that
Reminder only Zeno is actually universal
Ah yes, from the creator of Dragon Ball, Toshio.
Didn’t they get replied with narrator statements and they were like “well he wouldn’t though!”
Did Penders say something or what?
writers don't really understand the implications of things they write and draw in media especially comic writers news at 11
I see everyone dismissing this, but doesn't it hold more weight than DB itself?
>more popular than Godzilla
>more iconic than Godzilla
>more powerful than Godzilla
02 bros, we won
literally who?
Shitty Diebuster ripoff isn't even as popular as Shin Godzilla alone.
>they confirm that the Halloween episode is gonna be serial killers, essentially reconfirmed the possibility of Jason vs Michael
Oh thank fricking God. I got worried they would slate Sauron vs Loch King for it instead, plus their talks about a skeleton episode was worrying.
>And calls it a coincidence
I don't mean to doompost, but this just feels like Ben wasn't expecting the next next EP to drop on Hallowseve. I wouldn't be surprised if he managed to frick up and book a non-spooky fight that day.
>Oh thank fricking God. I got worried they would slate Sauron vs Loch King for it instead
Same. The debunk and this made my day. Too bad we are still getting Spongebob vs Aquaman. But at least the Amazon shill episode isn't overtaking the Halloween tradition.
Thank god
If they actually confirm Jason vs Michael that's the more excited I'm going to be for an episode since fricking season 2
Why? Jason stomps with zero effort
Anon, I don't care
Nobody cares
Jason vs Michael is just that iconic
This is has Terminator vs Robocop, Goku vs Superman, Charizard vs Greymon levels of legacy
Also it's going to be the first time they do slasher characters, which was seriously overdue. Horror characters are like kaijus, people love to put them fighting
>Jason vs Michael is just that iconic
>This is has Terminator vs Robocop, Goku vs Superman, Charizard vs Greymon levels of legacy
Your thinking of freddy vs jason
Freddy vs Jason is not iconic, it's just a movie that happened.
dude how old are you
Older than the guy who seems to think that Dream Man Slasher vs Physical Monster Slasher is in any way iconic just because it was in a shitty movie.
It's like people who think that Alien vs Predator is somehow a fight when it's in reality just the Predator shooting the Alien with his Plasma Cannon and the Alien exploding because it was a movie.
Meanwhile Jason and Micheal are actually incredibly similar in terms of their MOs.
Freddy vs Jason was more iconic way before the actual movie because of Jason goes to hell
How would you even make a Michal vs Jason fight interesting? there mos are to similar to have anything interesting occur.
Nah, Freddy and Jason are iconic, but Jason and Michael have been compared and being in arguments of who would win since forever. Just look a little anywhere, you'll find tons of posts, videos, fake movie posters, art, fan movies, and even a Robot Chicken sketch. There was even a popular hoax back then that there was going to be a Freddy vs Jason movie involving Michael Myers (It was actually going to be with Pinhead but it got scrapped)
Put them in a place with tons of teenagers and let them free, play with the camera, put a ton of fake outs and screamers. Make it gory as frick.
>Coincidence
FRICK IT IS SAURON.
Anons, please think about it. They plan these seasons months/a year in advance. That's a fricking year for them to realize that the 13th episode of the season would fall on Halloween. And you can't say "oh well it just got delayed from the 1st half!!”. Bullshit. Like I said, they plan these well in advance. There's no way they WOULDN'T have always planned MvJ for October/Halloween.
>B-but anon the song playing in the bac-
Have you heard the concept of trolling?
>B-but no other episode wo
1. They've done Halloween episodes with less "horrific" characters before. Dio, and especially Ganondorf don't fall into a typical halloween theme. Ganon is literally just a dark lord warlock. Speaking of which...
2. Sauron vs Arthas. Sauron was already teased of course. Rings of power is going on still. Wrath of the Lich King came out last week and Dragonflight comes at the end of November. Both lotr and wow are getting quite a bit of media attention now. Which death battle absolutely loves cuz $$$
And 3. Ben's hint on the last podcast (the one before Silver vs Trunks came out) where he literally said "you can probably guess the Halloween matchup based off what we've teased."
Sauron was one of the 5 characters teased in the 9.5 trailer. And prior to this current dbc, they did not hint at Michael vs Jason. At all.
Reel in your expectations anons. If I'm wrong I'm wrong and we can enjoy Halloween kino. But r/deathbattle and a couple of the discords I'm in are already celebrating it like it's confirmed.
Better to be pleasantly surprised, than to hype yourself up and then get btfo. I guarantee you if JvM doesn't actually happen, that the ppl on Reddit who are currently celebrating will sperg out and screech.
>(you guys better enjoy it)
>kool-aid man vs wrestler 2
they know spingebill can kill comic aquacuck easily, one hell of a way to admit it by making it obvious for the weakest version
>Narutards still try to compete
Bleach > Fairy Tail > Naruto/Boruto > One Piece
At least you beat MHA and some Jojos, I guess.
>Fairygays
Kek. At least pick something from Jump
>Fairy Tail
Why the frick would bleach be that high?
Their afterlife is a fricking small city. It's a tiny fricking verse.
>Bleachgays
>wan pisser getting wienery again
BRING ME BEYONDER
No. Give me Archie Knuckles. I must have this shit subjected to the autism of Penders
I don't think you're ready for the sheer autism that Archie Knuckles will bring with it
>I don't think you're ready for the sheer autism that Archie Knuckles will bring with it
Ian is the one who isn't ready for the autism that another Archie DB would bring to his Twitter account.
Ian would "probably" be alright for that one for death battle may rouse the autistic wrath of Penders himself with that match
I wonder if he'd say something like his son Knuckles would solo the entirety of the Marvel and DC multiverses at the same time.
>Knuckles would solo the entirety of the Marvel and DC multiverses at the same time
That'd be fricking hilarious. Would he actually say something like that?
I wouldn't put it past him. But as I said in a previous thread, there's another avenue through which to trigger his autism: Han vs Kirk. Ken Penders fricking LOVES Star Trek. In fact, most of the Echidna shit is ripped from either Superman or Star Trek. He also claims he doesn't love Star Wars buuuuut well, I'll let pic related speak for itself
Wally's just built different.
Absolutely
That being said, if they bring in Archie Tails, I want them to address that time he was apparently replaced with a clone for a few issues, said clone died, and then it was never brought up again
How that man hasn't fricking snapped at this point is beyond me
Who can be Archie Tails opponent?
Without DESTINY, probably Paper/Composite Luigi. With it, I genuinely I have no fricking clue because DESTINY literally scales above all of Archie Sonic per the comic itself
>NOOOOOO...
This literally reads like some shit this general made up to shitpost lol
Someone please make a Mammoth Mogul Basedjak
"Only I want to see" huh?
>Penny vs Nu-13
>Yang vs Makoto Nanaya
>Joe vs Ippo
>Terumi vs Sinestro
>Adam Taurus vs Kilmonger
>Stain vs Butcher
>Scourge vs Hunter
>Archie Eggman vs Wily
>Joseph Joestar vs someone.
>Acererak vs The Lich
>Vecna vs that one lich from Warhammer
>Robin battle royale
>Metal Sonic vs Bass
>Gon vs Deku
Beyonder is for Hal
You can bust on Bartleby Montclair
i still don't understand the connections there. i mean i guess beyonder did wear a green bodysuit once...
How is Wally West supposed to kill Archie Sonic when he has actual LITERAL canon plot armor that stops him from dying?
The fact that Archie Sonic died means he was nerfed.
It's kinda (but not on the same level so calm down) like if they brought in Sun WuKong just to have him die, his most OP shit is that he doesn't die.
>How is Wally West supposed to kill Archie Sonic when he has actual LITERAL canon plot armor that stops him from dying?
>The fact that Archie Sonic died means he was nerfed.
>It's kinda (but not on the same level so calm down) like if they brought in Sun WuKong just to have him die, his most OP shit is that he doesn't die.
One, it’s not plot armor, it’s Eggman and Mogul postulating Sonic finds a way to win in the end, two, Wally defies fate every day
>comic character can pull random bullshit out of their ass at any time when it suits the story
so basically the exact reason they should never use any comic high tiers ever
I’m sorry, is your supposed “fated to win” power of comic Sonic not an ass pull?
i never said that arcie sonic wasn't equally as bullshit and probably shouldn't have ever been used either
>One, it’s not plot armor
Yeah it is. Its the mandate from SEGA that says Sonic HAS to win all the time. Being acknowledged by the characters in the story. Mogul knows he can't beat him because of it.
>Yeah it is. Its the mandate from SEGA that says Sonic HAS to win all the time. Being acknowledged by the characters in the story. Mogul knows he can't beat him because of it.
First of all, no, Sonic doesn’t always win which is why he needed Tails to save the day. Also it’s not really a mandate, Snively outright called Eggman a schizo for it, and Mammoth Mogul outright said someone would save Sonic if he went after him which is more or less saying Sonic himself can get his ass kicked even if others would help him
This. It (and the mandate really) basically says that Sonic can lose, but in the end he's always going to win.
The last arc of the comic before the reboot was basically tripling down on this, with Sonic taking both metaphorical and literal L after L but he was going to come out on top because it's Sonic, because that's what he fricking does
But that page you posted means that if Sonic is about to die some literal asspull should happen to save him then. If it was possible to just kill him Mogul would have snapped his non existent neck right there.
Well that would mainly depend on Sonic’s friends and or elements of his verse. All of which can’t help against Wally
That's lame. Stripping a character of his most OP hax bullshit just makes it seem like they aren't at full power which is what I thought what DB was supposed to be about.
Oh he had it. It just wasn’t enough to actually do anything against Wally’s attacks
Not that it’s actually a thing in Archie Sonic
>Oh he had it
Did he? Where was it when Wally killed him? If he can just die like that then Mogul should have just torn him to shreds in that page posted earlier.
Bypassed by Wally’s speed force powers which trump chaos force
Show me them saying a mandate is a part of it
Yeah, no. See Eggman himself just says Sonic can’t be planned against. He doesn’t say no one can ever beat Sonic in a brawl, just that there’s always something no one can plan against
Yeah, no wonder why Eggman wears glasses most of the time. Dude makes Bowser, Ganon, and Willy look like normal citizen.
You should see the page before it
And just for shits and giggles, here's some more demented Eggman
I mean he didnt really call him a c.uck, just an butthole.
Eh, the cuck filename is funnier. Though he does technically end up cucking him....with himself
>>Ben, the CREATOR OF THE DEATH BATTLE ITSELF, says Trunks should’ve won
Yeah, vs Game Silver. The version is literally specified in the post anon-kun
And Ian's statement was him saying that he thinks Silver shouldn't have been given emeralds, and without those, Trunks wins
did he ever let him out?
Nope! Actually, that's how Snively's story in the pre-reboot ends. In fact, towards the end of Worlds Collide, when Dr. Light is locked in his capsule, you can see Snively still locked in his capsule
Even by Archie Sonic standards, what happened to Snively was pretty fricked up
And the page in question
That's like his nephew too right? Eggman was actually evil in those comics.
Yup! Well, the original Robotnik's nephew. The Archie Eggman in those panels is technically Robo-Robotnik from another universe who hopped over here because he already won in his universe, but I think he ended up getting all this one's memories and shit by the end
Actually, Archie Eggman vs Wily could be a fun fight, especially if it was done with modern animation/research/methods and shit
It's the original Robotnik's nephew, but Archie Eggman more or less shares a history with the original, right up until he nuked his Mobius out of existence (which we actually get to see by the way).
you mean his dimensions mobius? when do we see that?
Sonic's plot armor only works when he's in his own universe/zone. Like yeah, it's pretty much a universal law that in Archie's main universe good always wins, but other universes behave differently. For example, in Scourge's universe evil wins, or at least is at a major advantage.
and yet Scourge lost in his universe to Sonic
He kinda defeated himself by being an arrogant dumbass and powering down. And not knowing how his own version of "emeralds" worked.
It's not like he powered down intentionally, he just wasn't aware of the time limit since he'd never gone super before.
Mogul killed him before and he just got resurrected because of the whole Titan Tails thing.
page after this shows he's ok
But he lost the fight
He still didn't die. The main Archie Sonic can't be killed. If he could, Mogul would have killed him right here.
Well no since he wasn’t strong enough compared to Wally who can kick Sonic’s ass until he dies
Again nothing is stated he can never die, if he couldn’t he wouldn’t really ever have self preservation
Super Sonic rewrote like infinite timelines or whatever? Is completely invulnerable too. Ultra Sonic can straight up wish for stuff. But that's not too important, the only thing I ever said was that Wally should not be able to kill him, not who's stronger.
Sonic doesn't seem to know much about, Mogul and Eggman are the only ones who've talked about his ''plot armor'' hax. If the main Archie Sonic could be killed there's no reason for Mogul not to do it right there, but it is literally part of the story that some asspull will happen to save Sonic.
>Uppity Sonicgays
Trunks Won, Wally Won.
Cope
Sneed
This comic is such a disappointement. It just keeps going but never deliver any payoff. Same feel I get with Tails Gets Trolled, really.
>but it is literally part of the story that some asspull will happen to save Sonic.
Not if the ssspull can’t actually do it. Sonic doesn’t have luck powers, he just calls it a cruel joke and Eggman doesn’t say it either, just that he cannot be planned against. Sonic can fully die and has in Archie Sonic during solaris
POST YFW THE ABSOLUTE STATE OF DEATH BATTLE THREADS
These threads are shit. Still the salt from the dragonball fanbase in the youtube comments has been fun. It's Buu VS Kirby all over again for them
These threads weren't bad until they became daily
So is Archie Silver vs Trunks worse than Archie Sonic vs Wally West in terms of how much it's damaged these threads?
Pfft frick no. Archie Sonic VS Wally had like 24 threads throughout the two weeks, multiple trolls from other boards and powergays from other fandoms jump in, and caused extreme paranoia to the point DCgays were stalking the official death battle discord for any stray post that could even slightly hint at the result of the match to complain about.
Trunks VS Silver had mostly been quiet for the first week and then got a bit autistic in the second week when the Trunksgay showed up
But surely the aftermath wasn't as bad, right?
Oh and to add on, Sonic VS Wally had the entire rest of that season leaked in those threads.
Archie Silver vs Xeno Trunks got Ian Flynn involved
>Archie Silver vs Xeno Trunks got Ian Flynn involved
I also think this one wins, by virtue of annoying the actual head writer of the Sonic comics.
Fricking Hell even Otto tried to drag him further into this
He attempted to make a big deal over Flynn disagreeing only to be ratio'd by some rando
>Only to have Ultra's bootlickers do damage control
Well, it's not like the first. A recent one was the scholar for Journey to the West, and even then, he believed that Sun Wukong would win 99.9% via shrinking/growing and duplication.
Ep 9: Bond VS Wick
Ep10: Black Adam VS Apocalypse
Ep 11: DBH Trunks VS Archie Silver
Ep 12: Spongebob VS SF Aquaman
Ep 13: Jason VS Michael
Ep 14: Sauron VS ???
Ep 15: ???
Finale: ???
What should the remaining episodes be?
Does anyone even watch this morons fanfic bs btw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4D2VipDIWs
Man Dragon Ball high tiers have it the absolute worst. They have exactly 1 W and their only 2 wins were retroactively proven false
>Superboy Prime vs Gohan Beast
Which one of these AMPED successor will win!
Prime isn’t really comparable to Gohan. He’s more like an evil Kid Goku
More like Evil Parallel Trunks with the whole losing his entire universe thing.
Not really, Evil Kid Goku since he’s based off the Silver Age Superboy stories
>Guy who retconned his universe with an angry punch vs a nerd who gets mad sometimes
Gee, I wonder.
It would be funny if that fight ended with Superboy going to Death Battle set to try to kill Wiz and Boomstick.
Now that Death Battle said that every super form in Archie has infinite speed. Is it fair for Jobbernaut to fight Archie Knuckles?
That depends on what you mean by "fair". Because it is a viable matchup, but unless I'm missing something, Archie Knuckles with all his shit just brutalizes him
I dunno, what does Chris say?
They better play this for spongebob's analysis
Here's the thing, super friends aquaman does get crazy and stupid, but the pre 52/new 52 kinda gets more crazy?
There are arguments online that IN water aquaman is MORE powerfull then superman.
Now are these arguments, bs? Yes
But there's the fact that argument can be arguged to a "close" end.
Sponge count as sea life, but it's more like a plant, so i would say kinda outside Aquamans powers.
Although there are also arguments online of aquaman fighting CTHULHU.
So, spongebob is not the first almighty god to be placed against aquaman.
>spongebob isn't almighty god
He's not bugs bunny, but you could argue he's on the lower end of simular cartoon reality warping scale as bugs.
I'm not sure if ANYONE is gonna argue for aquaman.
Although, again counting other versions of Aquaman...
There are natural portals in the sea, allowing him to travel throigh time and space
He can control "anything" that lives in the ocean(still not sure about "plants")
He once fed Poseidon (a god) to a shark
He fights gods and once punched Death in the mouth. Punched Death? How strong is that?
He knows a shit ton of magic
He's bulletproof and nearly invulnerable
He once impaled Superman with his staff, and scratched darkside enough to bleed with his staff.
His swimming and lifting AGIANST tons of water pressue, means if he lifts a 10 ton ship, it basically weighs more like 100 tons (cause of water pressure), and also means him swimming faster then sound is more like sub light speed.
Have you ever been hit by fire hose water? Thats low end pressure compared to deep sea.
His magic staff is kinda op. Superman and darkside hurt by it? Shit.
But most of that i don't think counts for early super friends aquaman.
So, yeah my vote goes for spongebob.
But maybe we should give other versions of aquaman some more credit?
SpongeBob turned into a moon and the Earth. Also he's actually on par with bugs so don't underestimate him.
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>King of the Seas?
SpongeBob defeated the previous Kings and IS the Wizard of the World.
SpongeBob also have his various Super forms and a book that allows him to reality warp. SpongeBob literally turned Neptune(a guy who can opem rifts from the real world) into a fry cook.
Man an entire year has passed and I’m depressed
>Immeasurable speed Trunks wasn't being considered until the episode was partway through production, according to the Q&A
>If Trunks were to be considered immeasurable due to Demigra/Mechikabura scaling, then Silver would have to be as well due to Solaris
So what I'm getting is that Trunks was fricked no matter what and there was no downplay?
Yes. If anything, they wanked the absolute FRICK out of Trunks just to put him on a level where he'd even matter and it still didn't alter the outcome. They even gave him the Mechikabura scaling and not a damn thing changed.
That's what I've been saying they did the same shit with Aizen where they made him Planetary look like the winner and then he gets killed by madara, no fakeout and they say "muh sharigan" as the excuse, what the frick?? its like its for shock value, every dbz tard with their chips and drink waiting for the premiere anticipated for a trunks W, then he loses, who wouldn't wanna punch a hole in the wall after all that like that shit was so lame,
The sharingan is stronger than Aizen's hypnosis. And you want to talk about fake outs, Madara still had Izanagi to use.
Yeah but Aizen is cooler.
He's flat as frick compared to Madara.
Flat is justice.
Ironically the inverse of sonic vs flash, where sonic was going to win until the researchers wanked some random DC feat last minute
>When you realize you have now died less times than Goku in Death battle
I mean I won't be surprised if they bring him back, and keep in mind, Batman at the very least does have a win.
In Death Battle. Batman have a nice W/L ratio in the comics. Literally every version of Bruce Wayne have beaten the league before.
Hold up, Trunks Vs Silver is up, the fights done, so why the frick are people still debating this shit?
>DONT ASK QUESTIONS
>JUST CONSUME VIDEO
>THEN GET EXCITED FOR NEXT VIDEO
Because the writer of Archie Sonic came out and said the fight was wrong and Trunks should have won.
There is no debate, just dbspics in denial.
Just DBgays being salty and trying to stretch what one writer from the sonic comics said about disagreeing with the fight when his statement was essentially just him finding that they gave emeralds and time stone to Silver being unfair and base Trunks would wreck base Silver which everyone already knew.
DB used both characters at peak wank and Archie hax is leagues beyond Heroes hax. Just them scaling Super Silver to Super Sonic's infinite speed basically meant it was already over for Trunks
>Thor is rooting for SpongeBob
WTF AQUABROS!! CAPESHIT IS SUPPOSED TO STICK TOGETHER??! Especially against toons.
>even a fricking Spongebob DB will eventually become Marvel vs DC
MAKE IT STOOOOOOOOP
>writer of DBS says only beerus is universal
>Death of the author!
>writer of Archie Sonic says his opinion on silver vs trunks
>furrygays GOTCHA!
who are you quoting
of DBS says only beerus is universal
?
Name a DB track with a better first 10 seconds than this
Although I agree with the outcome of this fight, you can tell its all "shock" humor to piss of Narutards
Sure.
You moron. People don't hate Dragon Ball because of some spin-off game, they hate it because the fanbase is annoying as shit. No one would have a problem with DB if the gays who watch it didn't act like it was God's gift to the world.
> What if Kiradachi is the Halloween episode, that will subvert expectations so hard
If time stop is a measure to judge immeasurable speed then I guess anyone who's been frozen by a time stop can't have immeasurable speed. So Naruto is out. But Sasuke isn't.
>Celebrating both series
I fricking hate when people say this shit, the fact that it's a battle to the death makes it so it's the literal opposite.
Even the most braindead fans making crossover vs animations tend to understand that a hero violently murdering another hero over what usually amounts to little more than a misunderstanding is not celebrating a series at all.
The new cool edginess of the battle to the death aspect has been gone, and in the first place never made any sense for any fights other than Hero vs Villain or Villain vs Villain.
It just makes both of the heroes in such fights look like absolute jackass murderous villains, no matter how good the characterization elsewhere is.
Like, Sonic vs Wally getting into a race, yeah cool that's pretty fun and believable. Sonic and Wally getting so fricking tilted at each other about their race that they proceed to try to murderize the frick out of each other is... less so.
I wish that there was an alternative that was like Death Battle but took the most crucial aspect of the fight into account, the personalities of the characters.
I know the outrage generates clicks or at least once did but can't we move past that? I think everyone would've been happier if the outcome of Goku vs Superman was Goku and Superman fighting in some sort of tournament that wasn't to the death and the final scene was a callback to Goku vs "Jackie Chun" where both of them get knocked down to the floor and the winner is the first person to stand up, with Goku trying and failing to get up at the same time as Superman before collapsing, reinforcing that "There is always somebody better" message that he was once taught in the same fashion and also better putting across Superman's personality as somebody who never ever gives up, (as opposed to I give up Cell, go WAKU WAKU my sonku)
Instead Superman is forced to act like an OOC sociopath whenever he deals with Goku in Death Battle and destroy the entire fricking planet or whatever the frick.
I feel exactly the same. It just feels like edginess and the tradition of the series are more important than the actual content or giving the fans what they want to see.
Even when they have two characters who probably fight to the death if pitted against each other, you have shit like Apocalypse acting like a spoiled kid having a temper tantrum when he's usually pretty composed and noble even when he's being ruthless in the comics.
>go to watch a series called "Death Battle"
>get upset over characters "unnecessarily" being killed
Like what did you people genuinely expect from a show whose title is literally synonymous with "Mortal Combat" or "Fatal Fights"?
Because I feel like it's holding back the show from being entertaining, it's hardly "my character vs your character" when both characters are sociopathic murderers that are nothing like their personalities.
It's basically like they just uploaded a copy of their powers and a misinterpreted version of how the characters are meant to act onto robots.
I mean he literally said he would watch an alternative if one existed.
I blame Toei for this excessive hate to the Dragon Ball series.
Super and Heroes are turbo dogshit, they ruined the series image.
frick off ToyoHispanic go back to reading your tree level manga
No, the problem was always the fanbase. They were such casualgays that Super Buu OVER TIME destroying a Universe was impressive to them, meanwhile Comics back before that arc had multiversal level threats and casual Universal threats with CoIE and Infinity Gauntlet. But no no, Dragon Ball was the PEAK of power bullshitery! They were ignorant and talked out their ass and now they're realizing it's nothing special.
The problem is that the strength of fictional characters, no matter how many times you might try to say "Uhm, askhully check out this obscure panel!", is decided by two things and two things only, the first is the decision of the author of course, but just as important is audience perception.
Even though the odds of most crossover fights ever actually happening are near-zero (Which to be honest, might not even be the case anymore given the existence of the Omni-Crossover that is Fortnite) the only thing that has ever mattered beyond a writer writing who wins in an in universe fight is public perception.
Thor should beat the everloving piss out of the Hulk and was literally designed for that purpose, yet because public perception is still that HULK STRONGEST THERE IS, the two end up matching each other in strength far too often.
Funny isn't it, the character specifically designed with the idea of being stronger than the Hulk has a pretty hefty chance of getting the shit knocked out of him by that very character.
Public perception is easily the most important thing with that in mind, it decides just what a character can do more than even author intent does.
when they do Jason vs Michael will they give both teleportation or ludicrous speed via calculating the speed of them disappearing and showing up?
I think they'll make a reference or a joke about it, but won't count it as an actual factor unless they take that mechanic of the game as canon
If you go full wank with Super Saiyan Multipliers, you can get some real Hispanic numbers.
Like say you took that SSJ is 10x stronger than Kaioken x20
That makes it 200x stronger than base.
Then take into account that Grade 3 has been called 10x stronger than base giving a 2000x multiplier, then take into account that FPSSJ is supposedly as strong as Grade 3 without the speed loss, Super Saiyan 2 would be 2x that, giving you 4000x, then 16000x for Super Saiyan 3's
Then you need to take into account that Base Vegito is about equal to Super Buuhan, so lowball that to make potara a 16000x multiplier, which you can then slap those together for a multiplier of 256 million, which Super Saiyan God alone should be comparable to as Goku believed that Vegito wouldn't have stood a chance against Beerus, then you can slap that with another x200 and x20 for Blue and Kaioken blue for a multiplier of 1 trillion.
Then you got Ultra Instinct that are vague modifiers
And I barely used any spicfic headcanon to get to this number, you'll understand that professional morons like SethTheProgrammer could probably get that number even higher.
Vague scaling and number multipliers are literally all that Dragonball gays have.
Damn, I thought the latest episode would be enough to save my shiny rocks. wtf bros
Post fights only you want to see
And Boros FTW
>He's still using the fake trip
You're insane, but here you go.
Based MU, Granolah FTW
what is based, yours or mine
Does Hibiki get Samsho scaling?
Here.
I think Boros vs Battlebeast is actually fairly popular.
Something involving Freddy.
Freddy vs Candyman?
>be at home
>wife reveals she has cheated on you
>shout at your wife saying how she could do this
>the immortal alien busts into your house and beats the shit out of you for being too aggressive and throws you into the police department
thank you superman
If you were making so much noise the neighbors had to intervene, you weren't just shouting. You likely flew into a blind rage and started choking her and her death cries spurred intervention.
>actively strangling her to death
>magically she vociferates more loudly than if you weren't choking her to death
But he only steps in for violence
again.
you are at the mercy of a single person's values
you wouldnt be okay with this if his values did not allign with yours.
would you be okay if superman was a muslim or did not tolerate piracy or something minor?
note spiderman only messes with crime that is either public or reported by the police
Ah, so you don't read Spider-Man comics either.
also the avengers ARE legally supported by the govenrment in marvel, unlike the JL is.
>You wouldn't be okay with this if his values did not align with yours
Yeah.
That's kind of why people like/dislike different government and authorities.
You're the only one bringing up "muslim superman" for no reason. It doesn't matter, nobody's talking about some hypothetical version of Superman that doesn't exist anywhere. Just the regular Superman.
its to show that your b***h ass is giving uo your individual rights to a immortal alien's personal moral compass
So?
so what?
you are giving up your rights to someone's individual beliefs, which is wrong and immoral
Am I? I'm just fine with him beating up bad people, that's all.
in their own homes?
tyranical
Why does it matter? Why do you keep bringing it up? Being in your own home doesn't override laws. Your home isn't a separate country with different rules. If it's illegal to do on the street, then it's illegal to do in your home.
one's home one's rules. simple as
>quote from man shot
BIG BROTHER typed this
"if you got nothing to hide you got nothing to fear"
>Why does it matter? Why do you keep bringing it up? Being in your own home doesn't override laws. Your home isn't a separate country with different rules. If it's illegal to do on the street, then it's illegal to do in your home.
What?
Hopefully it's the next Invincible MU cause noone fricking asked for stupid ass Omni Man vs GodDamn Homelander lol
So, after Jason vs Michael, which slasher fight should happen next?
Goku vs Superman was written by people who didn't get the characters of either.
Superman wouldn't be such an arrogant dickhead and Goku wouldn't turn down another chance at a good fight.
God looking back, I hope they stop doing 3D animation, the second fight looked meh, like it was some gmod animation.
This one was terrible too, thor looked like triple h
>Superman wouldn't be such an arrogant dickhead
unless the writer wants to use him to prove an ideological point
Superman gets a little preachy, but he'd never be arrogant about his own strength to somebody like Goku who despite his flaws has still protected the Earth many times before.
I'd be inclined to agree here, unless it's an alternate timeline type of situation like when he took Guy Gardner's ring or he's subjected to extraordinary circumstances like when the writers of JLA/Avengers used him as a tool to seethe and rant about Marvel disproportionately more than Cap seethed and ranted about DC
one factor to note is will the battle be completely underwater? people joke about how useless Super Friends Aquaman is on land, but he doesn't immediately start dying when he is on land
that's a pretty good point. i expect there to be a point in the fight where they both end up dehydrated and have to crawl back into the water
Some of you sound like a dragon ball fan bullied you in high school
I was a dragon ball fan in high school. I grew up.
>I grew up
Otto if you grew up, you would not be here, arguing with anonymous internet morons about how powerful fictional characters are.
I don't know that you can claim you "grew up" when you're still a DCultist. We're all manchildren, boyo
This moron vs. Titan Tails when
>even the fricking cat has a recolor
The fricking state of the fricking state.
That's the EX-Fusion of Beerus and Whis.
No, that's a fusion
It's not any of Superman's business what I choose to do to my wife when she's being a b***h. Simple as
Nah, you had it coming
That's not his call
Sure it is. If you’d get in trouble for hitting a stranger you should definitely get in trouble for hitting your wife
wrong. the wife isn't a stranger and we're in my home.
>girl punches guy in the face unprompted
>guy in a thoughtless fit of rage knocks her ass out
what would Superman do if he saw this play out?
in public? stop it non lethally and call attention to it.
in the man's house? collect evidence and have the police take care of it.
Superman is no authority nor cop.
>collect evidence and have the police take care of it.
>Superman is no authority nor cop.
Okay well now the lady and kid is dead because you were a coward and cared more about yourself getting in legal trouble than you did about their lives and the guy beat them to death
>Coward
I guess everyone can kill criminals / vigilantism scot freenow.
If they’re in the middle of doing something like beating their wife sure, you can stop them
In their own home? No.
>He cares more about someone’s legal rights than another person’s life
I don’t think even Goku would agree with you, or anyone in dragon ball or hell shonen jump in general
Goku is not interested in politics, stopping all crime across the world nor entering people's homes without warrants, bro.
No he definitely would. He’s a decent guy
Goku cares about his own goals and his family.
Like real life people do.
Do you care all day about what your neighbor is doing? Do you wish you could watch thru their walls and hear what they are saying in the case that they are doing something YOU consider wrong?
>Do you care all day about what your neighbor is doing? Do you wish you could watch thru their walls and hear what they are saying in the case that they are doing something YOU consider wrong?
I’m pretty sure domestic violence isn’t a personal opinion thing. Seems pretty cut and dry as bad
Hitting your wife is different from just being mad at her
You are at the alien's mercy, not the law.
No anon, you are at my mercy, and I find you guilty.
Okay but he only has a problem with hitting your wife and kid
How would you know that?
Nothin' is stopping supes from busting your home right now just because you did something he doesn’t like
Because we see he doesn’t do it for things except for hitting your family
Disregard this, I suck wieners.
Also, If anybody else wants this anon's tripcode, he's using Otto's old one for some bizarre fricking reason which is CapeworldComics#Autobots.
It's a moot point because Superman is a legal authority recognized the world over.
>Everyone can kill criminals
You live in a blue state, don't you?
Do you want to give the state the power to kill you?
Anyways, superman has no authority to go into your home and beat your ass up because he doesn't like what you are doing.
Proper Legal procedure.
Otherwise, you are just imposing your justice upon others.
And when done by superman its worse because he KNOWS he can resist any weapon on earth, making it a god complex situation .
>Do you want to give the state the power to kill you?
It already does.
>i
You need to calm down. It's starting to effect your typing.
answer my question and take your own advice
>Otherwise, you are just imposing your justice upon others.
It’s a good brand of justice. Don’t let people beat their wives
He already does that every day.
As a society, you cannot make a legal system when some god is already violating all laws and doing he sees fit.
I’m ok with someone breaking the law to save a life or stop an abusive piece of shit.
so you are okay with a cop busting into your home right now and arresting you if they catch you doing anything thru a camera that captures every inch of your home 24/7?
If I was doing something like beating a child they definitely should stop me
What if you were just pirating music or a movie or just telling your SO to shut up in a non violent fight?
You are at the mercy of the god alien's moral compass, not the law, anon.
they self insert as Superman while simultaneously taking all of their morality from him so that's not a problem to them
>telling your SO to
>shut up
>in
>a non violent fight
You fricking favelamonkey.
You just fear a fantasy of Big Blue putting a stop to your wife beating.
>Dragonballgays beat their wives
WAKU WAKU CHI-CHI-SAN
beat their wives
That'd explain why they're defending marital abuse so hard.
what's wrong with beating your wife if she deserves it? like bill burr said not every ass whooping falls out of the fricking sky
this
you are at his values's mercy
Whatt if he was a muslim, huh?
would you be okay with him busting into your home and killling you in the name of Allah?
didn't think so
i laughed way harder at this than i should've
>It's a moot point because Superman is a legal authority recognized the world over.
How the frick does that work? Is he officially an American diplomat representing the country or, knowing how things work in comics these days, an official representative of the last Kryptonian embassy? Who gave him that power, the United Nations? Or is Superman treated like a nation in and of itself?
its just an allegory of god
the god chrustians fear to stay outta hell
they don't fear god to stay out of hell. they fear god on principle and accept christ to stay out of samsara
Superman was granted honorary planet-wide citizenship by the UN without the responsibility to pay taxes. He has legal authority as per the Justice League's charter.
It's basically the governments of the world trying to hitch their wagons to a nigh-universally loved hero by giving him support. It doesn't mean Superman is beholden to the UN, quite the contrary, he's gone against the UN and the United States Federal Government in several adventures.
>the un imposing a global dictator over the rights of everyone on earth
Probably restrain the guy. Take the girl to get medical support if she’s unconscious.
Probably intervene and stop the man from attacking the girl?
And then scold the girl AND the man for their violent actions?
>Goku focuses on his life and goals alongside those of his direct friends and family, not the entire world as someone with messiah complex would.
Provably false, Goku can be interpreted in two ways following his death against Cell, one, he's immensely selfish and only cares about becoming stronger in heaven with no family around to distract him.
Or two, having a messiah complex SO HARD that he actually chose to stay dead for the good of the world.
>Kal-L
Kicks the guy's ass, because men are stronger than women. It's like a man punching a 5 year old because the 5 year old pulled his hair. YOU AREN'T FIGHTING A WOMAN NOW!
>Kal-el
Winks to the audience.
He's actually formally deputized to act across the entire planet. He also doesn't have to pay taxes because the UN recognized all of Earth as his dependent.
>YOU AREN'T FIGHTING A WOMAN NOW!
Wow i hate Superman now
I mean, if Superman saw the first slap play out, he'd also see the man about to respond, so he'd just... you know, stop him from punching the shit out of her in the first place and give a moral message, no?
Hell, he probably ought to also be able to stop the first slap if it's playing out in front of him, though it's just a slap.
Come on Otto, you're meant to know this character well.
Anon he literally chooses to remain dead "Because bad guys only show up to threaten the planet when I'm around."
He has a messiah complex, he's just a fricking idiot.
>anons defending breaking into someone's house and brutalizing them, potentially killing them, for daring to lay a hand on his wife
>"HEY LEAVE HER ALONE MAN"
Who said anything about killing? Just stop the guy from beating his wife
Then you rely on superman containing his multiversal strength over a cop non lethally apprehending a man thru evidence.
>See child get his shit kicked in by father/mother
>"Guess I can't do anything about this, wouldn't wanna look like a simp"
Genius. Brilliant, even.
>B-but p-proper legal-
If you're watching a child get beaten, and your first thought is "wow, I hope whoever intervenes has the right legal documents!" and not "What a piece of shit, I need to stop that fricker", you are a sociopath, or you're just moronic.
if they are in their home, you cannot bust in to stop a dad from being their child.
Its the same as if a cop could enter your house right now and watch you 24/7 for you to do a crime.
??? If somebody screams HELP I'M BEING MURDERED
Do I really think that the police would need a warrant to save them?
Am I moronic?
in their home or in public
I bet I'm the sort of guy who gets pulled over by police and starts talking about how I'm a sovereign citizen and that makes me above all the laws so I'm god and OH GOD OFFICER NO PUT THE TAZER DOWN AIEEE
In both, moron.
Do you think the emergency services need a warrant to fricking enter somebody's home when they have had a heart attack?
you are at the mercy of supes's moral compass and values.
Not the law.
An alien who can easily move faster than light and hear everyone on earth at once if he wants to.
>What if you were just pirating music or a movie or just telling your SO to shut up in a non violent fight?
>You are at the mercy of the god alien's moral compass, not the law, anon.
Well he doesn’t seem to care about pirating music or arguments so seems good.
>
What if he did care that you were pirating music, tho?
would you be okay with him busting into your home and delivering you to the cops?
YOU ARE AT HIS MORAL COMPASS'S MERCY. NOT THE LAW.
yeah sorry dude i think you might be moronic
"Hey, I heard there was a domestic dispute here with my superhearing. Stop beating your children"
Is not the same as Big Brother watching you.
>Shrekposter talked about beating one's wife without specifying the extent
>WOAH WOAH WOAH DON'T DEFEND BEATING YOUR CHILD TO DEATH
?
Disregard literally everything I have to say, I have brain damage because my father beat me and my mother like dogs and said that police were bad.
Uh, this anon isn't me, this will be my new tripcode from now on.
Wtf it didn't change?
It's alright Mini-me, we understand.
>NOOOOO YOU CAN'T JUST BREAK THE LAW BECAUSE...BECAUSE YOU JUST CAN'T, OKAY?
broken
i win
Like your brain from the beatings?
i break
i kneel
This is a death battle thread, not moralhomosexualry one piss off
what the frick are you morons talking about get back to death battle
>Supergays realizing the world doesn't conform to their safe and sheltered worldviews
>Supergays refuse to accept that Superman doesn't exist, and they're not Superman
can we please continue talking about OOC dudes killing each other, this is getting boring
test
Death Battle?
More like Wife Beattle
>what's wrong with beating your wife if she deserves it?
This talk made me want to see a wife vs wife fight.
Chi-Chi vs Lois Lane
You just know there is SOME feat for Lois out there to win. Not even counting the fact she's a military brat.
Supermangays are willing to surrender their rights to an alien who can watch thru their walls and hear their every words's moral compass
BRING ME JOBBERNAUT
They arent ready for Penders. Nobody is.
>WAKU WAKU Super-Dono! Why'd you interrupt my training with Chi-Chi and Goten, we were just getting started!
>What do you mean they can't move? They're just resting! Some Senzu beans will fix'em right up! Maybe I should tell Gohan to bring Pan and Videl, some nice family training always gets me fired up!
This is how Superman vs Goku 3 starts.
>Goku wins
w-what would DeathBattle mean by this?
The right for aliens to beat their b***h wives shall not be infringed.
>Goku has two straight kids and a loving housewife
>Superman has a wife who constantly cheats on him and cares more about the SUPER side of him than the MAN side
hmmmmmmmm
>Xeno DERANGEDku defeats Rebirth Superman
I would kneel
why doesn't Superman establish relations between the Sentinelese and the rest of the world?
>Reverse Flash vs Goku Black proved DC was still superior to Super
>Thor vs Vegeta proved Marvel was still superior to Super
>Silver vs Trunks proved ARCHIE is superior to XENOVERSE, which by transitive properties means DC is even above Xenoverse which is way above Super because Flash > Archie Sonic
Goddamn
Would 18 still beat Carol? I would like her to stay in the oxygen club
carol is superior to tony/thor/ghost rider sometimes, so no.
Xenoverse isn't really above the main canon anymore though. Both the manga and the movie took things further. Xenoverse is outdated now.
All we need is Archie Sonic VS Marvel
AKA Juggernaut vs Archie Knuckles
if superman can hear everything does that mean lex luthor can agonizingly torment him by furiously jerking off while going OHHHHHHHHHHH SUPERMAAAAAAAAN so he has to hear it as a cry for help but he can't do shit about it
yes
but he cannot know supes is listening to him
he'd wnt to see his face as he does it
Cinemaphile has funner power level threads than here
Wait so it was literally Xenoverse trunks, not Heroes trunks? Why?
It was a composite Xeno Trunks, Hero Trunks and Super Trunks. The video title even says "Dragon Ball HEROES", it's not hard to miss.
I mean the design.
That's literally Hero Trunks' design.
No, it was World Mission Trunks.
>Supergays don't discipline their wives and children, fostering infidelity and disobedience respectively
waku waku... fine. I'll do it myself.
Is Goku a better father?
Gohan didn't turn out gay
Thanks to ChiChi and Piccolo. Goku allowed gohan to get raped by spopovich then allowed buu's resurrection, and the pink bubblegum nearly killed him. Goku didn't even bothered to prove or disprove his fate nor he looked after his body. Meanwhile shin (who was at death's door) was actually attempting to save him.
Worse of all, goku choose a dog over gohan when kid buu destroyed earth.
>Exposes himself to children
>Tries to drown his and Bejita's kid
>Beat on and abused Gohan mentally and physically
>Put his own son into a death match just so he could get his rocks off
No.
What th frick happened to this thread while I was gone?
This is what happens when the next fight has an obvious result so there's nothing to discuss.
It goes in this direction.
testing, testing
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Hello, this is Lord Otto Gruenwald of Capeworld Comics, coming to you with this announcement.
Superman still beats your favorite verse.
He has no limits!
As King-Emperor of King-Emperors of the Land of Knowledge and the Sky of Wisdom, it behooves me to notice and correct the lack of veracious information within this thread with the proclamation of various FLASH FACTS.
FLASH FACT #1: At light speed, time stops.
FLASH FACT #2: Time stops are generally based on relativistic theories, especially those surrounding how speed affects time.
FLASH FACT #3: Therefore, all you need to "move past" a time stop is to be able to move FTL.
Carry on now.
Noooooooo my speedwanks!
How about stopping time before they can move FTL?
Relative to the person being timestopped, the timestopper is just inexplicably teleporting around. So if they can move at FTL speeds, they can easily match that.
>FLASH FACT #1: At light speed, time stops
Exactly. You also become omnipresent if You have any sort of mass (on top of being omnipotent due to infinite energy).
>all you need to move past a time stop is to be able to move FTL.
>almost every enemy in castlevania games is unaffected by the time stop clock
>ftl castlevania was legit all along
>FTL Casltevania was legit
always has been
At FTL you also travel back in time.
Or at least that's what I heard in one podcast from Isaac Arthur recently.
>Mek-key-kabura
Disney, Dragon Ball, and Death Battle successfully recreated the telephone game in real life.
>Salago-doola
>Menchicka boola
>Bibbidi-bobbidi-boo
>Put 'em together
>And what have you got?
>Bibbidi-bobbidi-Boo
We've got Bibidi, We've got Babadi, we've got Buu and we've got Mechikabura, so the question is where the frick is Salagodura?
Space Parasites from incredibly popular JRPGs that fell to the earth countless years ago and are both used by advanced civilizations for the sake of their own progress, both are nearly responsible for a cataclysm occuring at some point in the future, well, Lavos is only "nearly" responsible because time travel is used to stophim.
I wonder if Mechikabura can beat Ultra Instinct Omen Salaga?
Lavos vs JENOVA when?
Who dis
Lavos completely fricking stomps. What the frick is Jenova going to do about time frickery?
I mean, Remake has timefrickery going on.
FRICK.
It's not Jevova doing it though.
I mean technically Lavos isn't the one doing the Time Travel bullshit either, it's implied to be either Schala or the Planet itself.
>The battle is just a turn based fight between two standing giant beings
I'd watch it
>putting a FF VII characters up against a character a character that'd shit on stronger FF characters
Everyone forgets Goku is canonically an idiot
academically wise? sure
he doesnt have to learn history/chenistry/math if his wish to be a martial artist
this alone makes him more human than god complex man
MOSHI MOSHI CELL-SAMA
PLEASE EAT THIS SENZU
>doing that to Cell in z before he fought gohan
>selling out the planet for a tournament.
Superman is a really nice person. Can I just say that?
Reminds me:
>superman stops 2 bank robbers midway
>hey you don't bullets in those guns
>we just wanted to scare people off not kill them
>superman tells them to just back and not make a stupid decision
>they do
In dragon ball only hercule is the only actual human (biologically and mentally)
stops 2 bank robbers midway
If Superman is so noble, why didn't he stop Biden from robbing the election?
Checkmate, Q
The Double Standards, jeez
No, like, moron in combat too. He 'let his guard down' when his fight wasn't even over.
>this alone makes him more human than god complex man
ZENO-SAMA! LET ME FIGHT THE STRONGEST PEOPLE IN THE MULTIVERSE! What? Countless lives will be lost if they lose? Waku waku, why should I care! Fightin's the only thing on my mind!
Because bardock wish wear off over time. In classic DB, we had goku figuring out kamisama disguise. By super, he's just a stupid manchild that gave moro a senzu bean
>DERANGEDku vs TYRANTman
For me, it's the Saiyan.
>"Waku waku Goku-Dono....this fightin' stuff ain't half bad...I should've stopped holding back ages ago!"
Who could stop DERANGEDMan the GOD and BLOODLUSTku the MONSTER?
Step aside.
>Superman is Superman tier with the power of a star.
>Goku has the power that mogs a star and his ki was shown by Yakon to be absorbable as light.
Could anyone beat Kalkarot? Could anyone stop his rampage?
Probably not, Superman with multipliers is busted enough as is.
>"THAT'S WHAT YOU GET FOR NOT OPENING THE DOOR FOR THAT QUEEN, CHUDCEL!.... I-IS THAT A WORKING CLASS MAN SPANKING HIS DISOBEDIENT SON IN HIS OWN HOME I HEAR? I BETTER BURDEN HIS FAMILY FINANCES BY BREAKING EVERY BONE IN HIS BODY!"
Archie Sonic
Pre-DC Comics Captain Marvel vs Pre-Shazam Superman
I heard Captain Marvel is tronger, is It true?
i've heard Superman comics only got stupidly outrageous with the cosmic power levels as a response to Captain Marvel but I'm uncertain
That is true.
Captain Marvel (the original Fawcett Comics one [acquired by DC and now called "Shazam"], not the Marvel Comics one), was having wacky and ridiculous feats practically every issue. Because Captain Marvel even outsold Superman at various points in time, DC editorial reasoned that the absurdity of the feats was what caused Captain Marvel to overrank Superman.
Hence, the sudden massive increase in Superman's strength and abilities starting at around the mid-40s, which carried on all throughout the Silver and even Bronze Ages until John Byrne redid Superman's origins post-Crisis on Infinite Earths.
>Superman's strength and abilities are not product of the narrative
>They are a reaction to wachy stuff
This line of reasoning is as moronic as the one line of reasoning from One Puch Man. Remember when He blew out Galaxy as a reaction to detractors?
If Spongebob defeats Aquaman, I'll consider that as a fraudcheck against the entirely of DC Comics.
You can't seriously believe that ultrawanked Spongebob defeating the weakest version of Aquaman is a fraudcheck against anything in particular.
They outsold Superman because they were better written. Simple as. First thing DC did after dissolving Fawcett was headhunt Otto Binder.
And was Superman's increase in power a response to Captain Marvel?
One might think so, but it's really hard to tell because Captain Marvel started pretty weak to, unable to fly and delivering punches that could only dent steel. They both amped up, and its hard to tell who amped up as a response to who, but in general Captain Marvel played faster and looser with power levels because its tone was closer to Popeye than Superman's tone was. And once Otto Binder started writing Superman, well, you got the same guy with a taste for high power levels writing both of them.
of course the Superman wanker was called Otto
I'm doing this one after I do golden age Spectre vs Fantomah/Stardust.
From what I've read Billy wins.
This isn't even about who would win anymore. This about which character do you like more and shitposting about the one you hate.
>DESPOTman the TYRANT
>DISTURBEDku the BUTCHER
I.... I don't know who's worse...
>DESPOTman the TYRANT
the BUTCHER
Who would win in an election?
I'm voting Goku btw
>that filename
Honestly quite funny.
DESPOTman attacks businessmen for not giving 90% of their shares to charity or transchildren in need.
DISTURBEDku beats and mocks poor Indian children while threatening to murder their parents.
I thought Uub was African
homie how, do you not see how his parents or people are dressed like??
>Implying that Goku would care
?t=30
The MONSTER Goku exists only to drive fear into the hearts of children, thus he's incapable of seeing race. To him, kids are just training equipment.
There's only one man who can stop Goku...
I'm guessing that this is either a TeamFourStar battle royale or Ultraman vs Goku.
The latter
Just wait until I arrive wrongdoers
Billy is a kid. BUTCHERING children is what Goku does best.
>"Huh, well I'm something of a child muderer myself."
>White man is trying to infringe on Goku's right to beat children
Not on my FRICKING watch.
>this thread
hardest i've laughed in a while
I actually like everyone here, everyone is smart and is trying to debate, like holy shit everytime im in Cinemaphile people just fricking troll in DBZ/Shonen threads and never fricking stop
It would be cool if they got Kyle Hill on the show since he's also aknowledges battleboarding and has even made a video about Saitama recently.
Who would win in a duo fight consisting of three teams.
Goku and Superman vs Hal and Ben vs Wally and Sonic?
Teams have an hour to prepare for the fight, they aren't allowed to do anything to their enemies in that time.
I think Goku and Superman, Hal and Ben are fodder without their weapon capeshit and Sonic and Wally are questionable in durability
>Sonic and Wally are questionable in durability
Is this because they wank fast as frick?
it's not the duration that matters, boi. it is how you use it
Ignoring thought-bot/CAS cause that's not Superman, Superman just has crazy moronic feats, the only way to beat him is to swarm him with so much manpower and hax that he cannot get away from
the key to defeating Superman is to lay low when he's being written as a Gary Stu and wait for a more lenient writer
If only Xeno Goku could use the card summoning system to summon Bendis.
You'd think that, but you need to take into account that they'd have time to prepare, meaning that Wally might be able to coach Sonic into being able to use the Speedforce and Sonic could grant Wally the power of the Chaos Emeralds, Ben... I actually don't know what he could do, but Hal could probably give him a Lantern ring, right?
Meanwhile, Goku and Superman might be the most busted with teamwork because of fusion.
Or Goku could use a universal spirit bomb and direct all the energy inside of it to Superman, giving him the equivelant of like, a universal sundip.
If its Ben 10,000 then I can see him lasting but if not he just dies in the first 5 minutes, and with Fusion coming into play Kal and Goku violate everyone since they'll be able to anticipate attacks with UI
>Superman-Goku alliance
Billy is our only hope.