Not good tbh. This was a rematch I was hoping would never happen, but it's coming just got to accept it. Will Goku finally get the W? I still think not. But this will probably be this year's most divisive match of the show.
The idea that Goku and Superman would be friends, I don't buy it. Goku wouldn't be interested in any of the boomer stuff Supes is into. And Superman has a pretty active social life outside of being a hero, Goku can't relate to that
He met all his friends fighting and adventuring, and of them you have about 3 nonfighters, 4 if you count Satan who is a fighter, just not a superhuman one.
The idea that Goku and Superman would be friends, I don't buy it. Goku wouldn't be interested in any of the boomer stuff Supes is into. And Superman has a pretty active social life outside of being a hero, Goku can't relate to that
Things superman and goku both like (but don't think this would be enough) >love for the great outdoors >fishing >camping >hiking >burgers, shakes and apple pie >farming >country style living
Honestly I think they would at least be buddies, I personally think they'd be friends considering the incredibly unlikely types of bonds Goku has formed over the course of Dragon Ball, but to each their own.
In a way I can see Superman finding Goku's naïve simplicity endearing. But they would definitely butt heads when it comes to handling bad situations but then Goku does that with a lot of people and they're still friends.
What do you mean? When Gohan was a kid he and Goku were always running off into the wilderness together to have play around camp and have fun. They'd go "fishing" just so they have something to bring back.
Eh, what? Did Super just erase all of what you’ve seen in DB and DBZ? Goku does like to chill in the countryside where he lives, it is what he did for years before he even started martial arts.
GvS2 was already unnecessary, but it at least made it clear that the result for this match up would always be the same no matter how strong goku got, this just feels like a very desperate move and i can't even wrap my head around why they'd do this a third time aside from the obvious possibility of giving goku the win to appease dbspics, overall it's a really bad choice for a remake, kinda sucks too cause they were having a damn good streak with their match ups lately
Right now, they're probably fishing for the viewership numbers, because they know Zaslav is walking around with an ax culling unprofitable parts of WB. Tournaments to get the hype matches that should bring numbers, killing the early preview to increase the total views day of, and a lot of big matches in a row, because if they aren't pulling the viewership, they're out.
Yeah I don’t think Warner is going to “axe” the subsidiary with the most consistent seven digit viewership of them all. I have no idea how or why you think they would. >But the old views!
Were entirely matchup dependent. Big matchup + big franchise = big views. Lame matchup + big franchise = regular to good views. Plus time is still a factor, a big amount of the views on the older fights come from rewatches/people watching them years later.
Because all they bring in is ad dollars, they already had Beerus vs. Galaxia pulled from youtube, any future fight could meet the same fate, so they now have to prove overall that their profitability is sustainable, since due to the nature of the show they likely can't port it to Max.
What is this logic. >Warner might get rid of a money maker because it might get a video removed again (something they can avoid by just not using manga panels from Sailor Moon)
Are you a spic? Because your line of thinking is very spic like, as in it’s retarded and makes no sense. I’m gonna call you my Latinx Spiccy from now on
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Because Zaslav's cancellations have made no damn sense. He outright cancelled a Batman cartoon series that is now heading to Prime(nothing to do with stupid Christmas movie), but didn't can the Flash or Blue Beetle movies. And if you think that DB is more profitable than fucking Batman, I think you're the spic.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
You’re still not making sense my Latinx companion. Think about it like this:
Why would they cut off a subsidiary of a subsidiary that’s already proven that they can earn their keep while also making back the money that RT gives them. Give me an answer beyond “layoffs don’t make sense”
Also, if YOU think that the same people who handle animated cartoons made for general TV audiences require the same amount of funding as a YouTube show, then you’re a level beyond a Latinx. You’re just dumb.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Latinx
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
You're the one not making sense my ESL friend. Zaslav has been cutting costs across the company. The DB team is obviously worried, otherwise we wouldn't have the tournaments, they wouldn't have cut early viewings, Goku vs. Superman is happening again, something I predicted would happen when things started going downhill. It's not about total cost, it's about profitability, and if they aren't making money, he's going to axe them, plain and fucking simple.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
I think anon is underestimating how iron fisted and short sighted corps can be. Esp if there's new heads.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
In DB's case, it's more of cost/effectiveness ratio. The show should theoretically have next to no cost, but they outsource all of the major creative material and have a large, and largely useless, 'research' team working on the core nugget it's built around. It can't be sustainable.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Please for the love of god axe the research team already. They're so fucking bad.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Ben has supposedly credited the team for allowing them to do matches with characters they normally wouldn't do due to their esoteric nature or very lengthy amount of material associated with them.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
And yet they still manage to butcher shit constantly
cough cough Dark Souls.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Please for the love of god axe the research team already. They're so fucking bad.
Also axe the cutaway gag animators. Faceless voices are way cheaper, and less annoying
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>it’s about profitability
You would have a point if you actually started off by talking about things that, you know, impacted overall profits. >tournaments
Are for fans, and the fans that are willing to pay for subscriptions aren’t comparable to the revenue they’d gain from general viewership and advertisers. >Early premiers
See the above. >Goku Vs Superman 3
See the above, again. Unless you have some actual insider information on both the DB crews profits AND Warner Brothers as a whole, I’m opting to call you optimistic at best and actually retarded at worst. What’s funny is that DB isn’t even RT’s most cost heavy show, far from it. That’d go to the ones that require live action crews and the likes, so those guys would more than likely get shot before anyone else.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>while also making back the money that RT gives
To be fair tgis is most likely being done because RT is on fire right now
I’m telling you guys, it’s going to be a joke episode. The fight is going to be a shitpost. Call me crazy if you want, but I’ll be here when I’m inevitably correct.
i'd agree if the guy he was fighting wasn't the other most jerked off character in fiction ever, i could at least find a little bit of interest for friezatron because i knew there were versions of megs that could actually put up a fight against frieza and was curious to see how many of their feats would be pulled for that MU, this on the other hand is still as predictable as it was 10 years ago because dc characters in general are extremely fucking boring powercreeps and only become even more extremely fucking boring powercreeps as time goes on, which is saying something considering this is a dragon ball episode
Batman has been complete dogshit in DC for years now. All his comic runs are ass because they’re written by Marvelcuck fags. Everything the character does is unheroic and associated with evil schizo shit. Then I try to get away from it and go to the movies and he’s a retard there too.
They are they just bat low a lot because it keeps things interesting. It's work like anything else with a paid salary so if there's no villains there's no work.
Goku has to win by default for the inevitable fourth one
If he loses, there's no point. 3 death battles with the same outcome, if they pull it again nobody will watch the fourth one
I honestly think they're going to have them tie in this fight. >But it contradicts all their research!
Big fucking whoop they change their standards constantly.
They didn't even do "research" for the second fight. They used SSB before RoF even came out and bascally said they didn't need to do research because Superman has no limits
RoF had been out for months when the second one came out. It was just as strong as Frieza's new form, with nothing to really compare it to, other than stronger than SSG.
Fuck I meant DBS. The fight came out 2 weeks after Super
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
But there wasn't anything in Super to research yet. It would still be 3 weeks before Beerus fought Goku on Kai's planet. It was a Goku fan boys pushed after Battle of the Gods, because Goku just got a new powerful form, and that would surely be enough.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Doesn't matter, my point is that they didn't do any research before that fight because cause the thought process was "it doesn't matter because Superman has no limits". They coukd have waited but didn't because they already had the outcome decided
Characters this season that beat Gojo >No diff tier
Discord
Bill cypher
Raven
Phoenix
Frieza
The doctor
Silver Surfer
Martian manhunter
Courage
Schooby
Son Goku
Clark Kent >Low diff tier
Ant man (can possibly tank UV because scientist supreme brain, also ants lack CE so he can just kill Gojo with ants inside his domain)
Stitch (same as Megatron, super brain tanks UV and just kills Gojo inside his domain)
Megatron (outstats and tanks all of Gojo's arsenal, kills Gojo inside his domain)
Rick Sanchez (could possibly tank UV for a moment and the portal gun can bypass Limitless easily) >Mid diff tier
Obito (kamui bypasses limitless and Gojo can't do shit against Rikudo)
Vader (force bypasses limitless)
Dovahkiin (soul fuckery alone kills Gojo, but he has like 10 other ways to do it)
Characters this season Gojo beats >High diff tier
Chosen Undead (lore wise he outclasses Gojo in almost all aspects, but he lacks ways to go around Limitless and UV. His Silence + his speed can give him the chance to land a killing blow, But Gojo can heal himself. CU will also return way more times, and while Gojo can't run naturally out of Energy there is a chance the lack of food and sleep fuck him over. Still It's likely Gojo wins more often than not) >Mid diff tier
Makima
Rocket Raccoon (guns can decimate Gojo inside his domain but otherwise can't bypass Limitless)
Alex Mercer (sorcerers are weak against viruses, but besides that Gojo can kill him before getting infected)
Cole (faster and has a Wincon with the energy absorption, but can't bypass Limitless or UV) >Low diff tier
Misaka Mikoto (would surprise Gojo with speed, but can't hurt Gojo)
Killua (same as Misaka but worse)
Atom (unless he enters Gojo's anus and gets big again I don't think he can survive UV or bypass Limitless)
Dimitri (unless he can cast magic directly inside his opponents he lacks any way to hurt Gojo, let alone survive his attacks) >No diff tier
Guts (angry big sword man can't really do anything against him)
THE IMP OF THE PANDORICA
THE SHADOW OF THE VALEYARD
THE BEAST OF TRENZALOR
THE BUTCHER OF SKULLMOON
THE LAST TREE OF GARSENNON
THE DESTROYER OF SCARO
THE ONCOMING STORM
People say Showa wins because "LE UNIVERSE LEVEL LORE"
I say Showa wins because he knows how to throw a punch
Simple as
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
He also knows Judo and Brazillian Jiu Jitsu.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
BJJ is a meme. Muay Thai rapes
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Anon you're probably new to the whole 'fighting art' stuff but BJJ is actually a con not a pro. Judo can stay but blow jobber is a shit art.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
BJJ is a meme. Muay Thai rapes
I’m getting two different answers. What’s wrong with Brazilian Jiu Jitsu
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
I wasn't giving you a different answer BJJ IS a meme. It has zero takedown awareness, the users get lulled into a false sense of security thinking they can neglect athleticism. Just walk into a muay thai class and then a BJJ class and you'll see what I mean. They also lie to you and tell you that you can face bigger guys when in reality at best it'll help you SURVIVE not getting your face smashed instantly.
Also the tournaments and rulesets disqualify you if your opponent pulls guard and you lose balance and fall on them. They call it 'slamming'. Also this is coming from someone with 6 years of BJJ. Judo is better, wrestling is better mostly because of the takedown DEFENSE and they have much better takedowns + control.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Is it true BJJ doesn’t have kicking or punching?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Yeah that's true. And when you add punches and kicks into the mix BJJ loses a TON of it's cohesion. Look at combat jiu jitsu worlds. They added ground and pound into the mix and you'll notice how most of the people who do mma and participate stomp because the element of realism with striking kind of crumbles a lot of the 'not particularly athletic' types.
The more athletic dudes can hang but you'll see that when they get hit a few times the pressure caves them. There was a saying that went something like "Punch a black belt and he turns into a brown belt. Punch him again and he turns into a purple belt…" ect
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
So JUST bjj sucks? Can you add anything useful from it to actual fighting?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Anything BJJ has I think Judo or wrestling can do better. If you're a strong wrestler and come to a class you're automatically almost purple belt material same with Judo. The elements of takedowns and top control are far too valuable. Plus just knowing how to not get taken down will immediately alienate you in a class lmfao. But BJJ can be fun if you have a girlfriend.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
In fairness to BJJ, wrestlers in general make great fighters in terms of potential
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
I know, it's just of what I said earlier. BJJ classes lull you into a false sense of security when it comes to the whole 'bjj can make even the weakest defeat the strong!' it's a lie but it sells. Its what makes people neglect athletics. Why wrestlers are better by default is not just techniques because it's wrestling culture that says they MUST be in PHENOMENAL physical condition for it.
Being more jacked than your opponent isn't the biggest trump card but it also makes so many things infinitely easier to do.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
People need to learn size matters, like yeah you could maybe beat someone in good shape if they never fought in their life. But like, actual core strength is a big deal for a reason. Life isn’t Cobra Kai where dad bods and nerdy teenagers kick ass
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Yeah in order for you to win if you're smaller is you have to be at the top of your game, in incredible shape relative to your opponent and far more experienced and skilled at keeping the fight at your comfort zone while having the determination and resolve to cause great physical harm to another human.
The last part is harder than you realize.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
The funny thing is that striking martial arts are a LOT better at getting over weight gaps. Punching someone in the jaw is going to fucking hurt
>That's the main reason a lot of McDojo arts suck.
What would you say is the martial art that actually works?
Contrary to what a lot of martial arts manga say, Boxing completely negs almost anything that isn't MMA any day of the week.
2 weeks ago
CapeworldComics
Boxing + wrestling is the GOAT combo. That the old occidental stuff steamrolls 99 percent of oriental arts was the true discovery of MMA that got smothered by the Gracies promoting BJJ from the rooftops.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Example 0 for why the Gracies stomped shit at the dawn of UFC. Strikers didn't know wtf to do when it came to ground fighting.
[...]
I used to lurk on Bullshido forums.
>The Gracies
They don’t even look human
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>No kicking
Come on son.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>No kicking
They always use this same excuse.
This is bullshit.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Boxers are a joke to a real grappler
Baki doesn’t even grapple
2 weeks ago
CapeworldComics
That used to be true back during like UFC 1 when no one knew what what to do on the ground unless they took wrestling/judo, but that was some time ago, and people know how to sprawl now, so striking arts have more efficacy.
>judo/jiujitsu (jiujitsu is judo with more of a focus on ne waza).
Does judo actually work? I’m learning a lot about martial arts today
[...] >Plus once you're crashed in and tied up with someone an untrained person (aikido has no clinch work but neither does the crack head down the street) will just lose balance and fall over and your 10 years will be nothing when you're in deep waters (the ground) rolling around with limbs flying everywhere.
You do good descriptions man
Judo is solid. You will be amazed how fast a judoka can smash you against the planet. It sometimes get some shit for lol point fighting but look up absolute chads like Gene LeBell.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Which is worse. Aikido or BJJ?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Aikido by far. BJJ can at least be used to restrain your drunk uncle at a birthday party. Aikido will have you get slept by said drunk uncle as you try to grab his wrist.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Which is worse. Aikido or BJJ?
Now I wanna hear about why Aikido sucks
2 weeks ago
CapeworldComics
No resistance sparring. That's the main reason a lot of McDojo arts suck.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>That's the main reason a lot of McDojo arts suck.
What would you say is the martial art that actually works?
2 weeks ago
CapeworldComics
>Try
Boxing/kickboxing/muay thai, wrestling, judo/jiujitsu (jiujitsu is judo with more of a focus on ne waza).
>Avoid
Kung-fu of all kinds, krav maga, tae kwon do, akido, karate (though I have heard good things about the kudo side of karate, I'm honestly not that knowledgeable on it)
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
nigga the only time you go out of the house is for mc donalds stfu
2 weeks ago
CapeworldComics
>t. TKDork.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
tf is TK copeworld?
2 weeks ago
CapeworldComics
TKD is a common abbreviation for tae kwon do.
[...] >The Gracies
They don’t even look human
Helio always looked like one of those Shugendo mummy monks.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Doesn’t know
It’s an abbreviation of Tae Kwon Dork, stupid yaw8t
nerdy shit no wonder otto knows about it
men do boxing
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Stop posting, you're punch drunk.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
how about you kiss my balls and digits fag?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Doesn’t know
It’s an abbreviation of Tae Kwon Dork, stupid yaw8t
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
You should probably stop talking about things you don't know.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
But Otto's actually right.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
I only need one martial art
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Kung-fu of all kinds
Like the art itself or the McDojos that teach it?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
True Shaolin Monks are insanely physically honed. They can make it work, because it's not an art that can just be learned by anyone over a couple of months. It's a lifetime dedication
2 weeks ago
CapeworldComics
Chinese martial arts were kneecapped into limited contact, no resistance tai chi shit by Mao because any sort of self defense doesn't work under communist ideology. Then they were further kneecapped by fantasy martial arts that brainwashed people into thinking that you could actually knock someone down by waving your hand at them and firing a ki blast like dragon ball.
There's a good documentary on "traditional" Chinese martial arts vs real fighting here:
Basically, a dude got his life ruined because he had the guts to fraud check kung fu masters.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Remember that chinese MMA dude a while back who beat the shit out of a Tai Chi guy and got harassed online for it?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Not just one Tai Chi guy, a whole bunch of them.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Poor Tai Chi dudes. It’s not their fault everything they believe in is stupid
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Remember that chinese MMA dude a while back who beat the shit out of a Tai Chi guy and got harassed online for it?
Chinese martial arts were kneecapped into limited contact, no resistance tai chi shit by Mao because any sort of self defense doesn't work under communist ideology. Then they were further kneecapped by fantasy martial arts that brainwashed people into thinking that you could actually knock someone down by waving your hand at them and firing a ki blast like dragon ball.
There's a good documentary on "traditional" Chinese martial arts vs real fighting here:
Basically, a dude got his life ruined because he had the guts to fraud check kung fu masters.
Didn't Bruce Lee do the same thing once?
2 weeks ago
CapeworldComics
Bruce Lee did some real sparring and was very interested in the real side of fighting. It's extremely likely that if he lived longer he would have gotten into early MMA and Shooto.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Thoughts on Ali vs Inoki?
2 weeks ago
CapeworldComics
Example 0 for why the Gracies stomped shit at the dawn of UFC. Strikers didn't know wtf to do when it came to ground fighting.
I did not expect Otto to know this much about fighting.
I used to lurk on Bullshido forums.
2 weeks ago
CapeworldComics
Not just one Tai Chi guy, a whole bunch of them.
It's sad that China has been brainwashed into making shit martial arts their culture.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
The funny thing is that there is a move that can fuck anyone up with minimal effort. Throat poke
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>judo/jiujitsu (jiujitsu is judo with more of a focus on ne waza).
Does judo actually work? I’m learning a lot about martial arts today
[...]
[...]
Aikido doesn't have very many practical uses. Some joint locks can be applied in a grappling sense if you can actually get past a resisting opponent. But Even if you spend 10 years trying wrist locks and throws it's actually hard to do half of that when someone is throwing their fists at you with everything they have and crashing into you and tying you up.
Plus once you're crashed in and tied up with someone an untrained person (aikido has no clinch work but neither does the crack head down the street) will just lose balance and fall over and your 10 years will be nothing when you're in deep waters (the ground) rolling around with limbs flying everywhere.
>Plus once you're crashed in and tied up with someone an untrained person (aikido has no clinch work but neither does the crack head down the street) will just lose balance and fall over and your 10 years will be nothing when you're in deep waters (the ground) rolling around with limbs flying everywhere.
You do good descriptions man
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Judo works even if a person is wearing something light like a t-shirt. I'd give gi jiu jitsu a pass if they forced you to focus on takedowns before grappling but again that's what makes it suck is the pure ground focus. Judo is great because they force you to learn the throws and THEN do the ground work. Imagine landing a hip toss on concrete? But all grappling arts suffer if you and your opponent are sweaty. It's another reason bjj sucks in MMA. longer fights, more sweat, harder to secure shit.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Or if you pull a Meguro, but you have to have both a crazy grip and absolutely no sanity or regard for anyone else's wellbeing
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
The funny thing is that striking martial arts are a LOT better at getting over weight gaps. Punching someone in the jaw is going to fucking hurt
[...]
Contrary to what a lot of martial arts manga say, Boxing completely negs almost anything that isn't MMA any day of the week.
What this anon said. If you're a good striker even if you're smaller you actually can deal with the weight disparity MUCH easier. Remember height and weight is far more valuable in a grappling match but if your opponent can't actually grab you being able to hit and move without getting tied up will lead you to victory especially if that's your go to fighting style.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Punching someone in the jaw is something that almost always bypasses weight classes.
>Boxers are a joke to a real grappler
Baki doesn’t even grapple
It's funny. Baki's kind of a little shit at points but we love him for it
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
No resistance sparring. That's the main reason a lot of McDojo arts suck.
>That's the main reason a lot of McDojo arts suck.
What would you say is the martial art that actually works?
Aikido doesn't have very many practical uses. Some joint locks can be applied in a grappling sense if you can actually get past a resisting opponent. But Even if you spend 10 years trying wrist locks and throws it's actually hard to do half of that when someone is throwing their fists at you with everything they have and crashing into you and tying you up.
Plus once you're crashed in and tied up with someone an untrained person (aikido has no clinch work but neither does the crack head down the street) will just lose balance and fall over and your 10 years will be nothing when you're in deep waters (the ground) rolling around with limbs flying everywhere.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Plus the basic principle behind it is poorly used within the art itself.
Turning an enemies weight against them can be done if you understand the direction they're going and control them that way. Turn with the punch logic
>A new battle royal >It's wasted on yet another fucking "hurr all these characters from the same universe who wins?" match up.
I'm so fucking tired of how samey DB is in its match structure.
Give me a battle royal with characters from different settings.
Give me a real fucking team vs team battle that isn't god damned Red vs Blue.
Give me some naval combat, or a good space dog fight.
Give me a clash of fictional armies where the armies actually fucking matter for once.
Give me something that isn't "character A that dodges lasers punches character B that dodges lasers for 2 minutes".
Superman vs Goku 3 will have Goku flying into Superman's fortress, knocking down some vials of super aids, getting sick and then dying of some kinda heart illness.
>Ends with Superman ripping the simulation apart, taking Goku out with him and telling Wiz and Boomstick enough is enough before talking about how both he and Goku inspire people before showing footage of men in Superman S tank tops and Goku Gi Tank Tops getting Cinemaphile and that's all that really matters to Superman, before offering Goku the best Pretzels and Hot Dogs in Metropolis.
Don't you see? Even without his brain to tell his legs to keep standing, and without his torso to act as a counter balance, his legs yet stand. True strength!
The match convinced me that cartoon death matches should be shelved. There's just something painfully unfunny about an amalgamation Scooby repeating a bunch of jokes that weren't even particularly funny in their original form sorry 80s fags, A Pup Named Scooby Doo is fucking shit. And mashing all the Scoobies together itself feels really disingenuous.
I think Avatar is too sovlful for a third rate popular contest youtube series which is fanfiction tier.
It would be fun seeing Grey voice acting as Azula again though which wouldnt be hard since she's seemingly broke.
Well idk who the other girl is, but Azula's power might be hard to determine since she gets some ridiculous overpowered boosts (fanfiction tier again) in some terrible comics post-series.
A few examples I can remember are when Zuko re-directs her lightning to her chest and she's only knocked down or when she vanishes into smoke without even using her hands.
She has a crossbow though and could easily mist around and snipe Azula with it.
Also what is this "normal physical athlete" shit? So is Azula and every other bender/normie in Avatar.
>Stalker is physically a normal female athlete
And she still dukes it out with physically stronger people than Azula whose also just a normal female trained athlete. Plus a fight between them wouldn't be coming down to whose gonna hand to hand the other.
Stalker is a completely baseline human with the ability to get intangible with an extreme weakness to fucking electricity(i.e. lightning). This against a superhuman martial artist that couuld evade aang+toph without her bending and oh...that's right she has a penchant for the use of lightning. You think Azula *doesn't* hard scale above the Yuyan Archers?
Breaker 3, Stranger 2, Mover 1
Yeah just 'baseline human' lmao. I think Azula wins but way to out yourself as having no idea what the fuck you're talking about.
Honestly, it's probably BECAUSE they're official that they feel so lazy, but I also admit that I have a soft spot for Super Saiyan God when drawn by Yuya Takahashi
SSJ4 didn't have that issue though, I think them moving away so far from the Saiyan's ape aspects is part of why the new Saiyan forms feel so lazy, it's not like they still can't make new forms that feel appropriate cool, most people like UI, they just need to focus less on making straight upgrade forms, it doesn't work out most of the time.
I've got an idea for a matchup but it'll never happen because of how unknown both characters are. America Chavez vs Sideways (yes another DC vs Marvel fight). They're new gen teenage latinos with the power to make portals in a specific shape.
Bouncing across time and space. They could have had Rick bring the fight to the Citadel to confuse the Doctor with all the Ricks. I'm quite sure what the ending with all the Rick clones was supposed to be. Did Rick ever duplicate himself? It feels like that scene should have been the Meeseeks.
But his decoys never worked for him. I mean, I guess he could use some sort of control phrase to snap them to his side, but that's speculative. It just seemed like that scene should have used Meseeks, especially when they talked about the Meseeks earlier.
They did what they could with Depression era materials. No plastic at all, completely wood with a cloth cape.
I don't think you could rightfully call it an action figure, but Tarzan had a pretty neat clay statue in given as a promotion for his 1932 radio show. It's probably the best "toy" of the 30's.
Is anyone else incredibly disappointed that the episode didn't end with the Doctor bringing Morty into the TARDIS as his new companion? It would have been the perfect ending and all the pieces were in place for it.
I think I know what the season finale will be, to concur with a recent Cinemaphile release. Scott Pilgrim vs. Travis Touchdown
That's an easy fight to keep in "storage" for such an occasion.
As one of the local /dbs/fags I will in fact care if my HERO loses, it might be a bit overdone by this point but he's a cool character with a lot of history with Superman when it comes to battleboarding autism, especially when Death Battle seems to have retconned the second match out by claiming it's irrelevant, whatever happens I WILL be watching.
>Since the last time we fought; the most recent big project with my name was a cheesy love story anons only liked for Lois. >The next big project for me is getting turned into babies.
Rick was out of his tier. There should have been better plot armor.
That's not shocking I guess, the Doctor does get wanked super fucking hard for a guy whose greatest enemies have a crippling weakness to stairs. Kind of sad it couldn't be Richards out autisming Rick, especially since that would have saved us from the almost guaranteed and horribly matched Reed vs Plastic Man
BTW: they clarified that the main reason there’s doing GvS3 is that they, (The DB team), feel that GvS1&2 has become badly outdated in terms of writing and especially animation, and they want to redo it one final time, (with updated production and full composites now), to make sure the most legendary matchup in VS history finally has a equally legendary episode to call home
Basically, Ben and Chad don’t see GvS1&2 as “canon” to DB anymore and thus, they have the next time as just “Goku vs Superman” and not “Goku vs Superman 3”
You can't sit there and act like Superman walking through Goku's Kamehameha wasn't kino.
BTW: they clarified that the main reason there’s doing GvS3 is that they, (The DB team), feel that GvS1&2 has become badly outdated in terms of writing and especially animation, and they want to redo it one final time, (with updated production and full composites now), to make sure the most legendary matchup in VS history finally has a equally legendary episode to call home
Basically, Ben and Chad don’t see GvS1&2 as “canon” to DB anymore and thus, they have the next time as just “Goku vs Superman” and not “Goku vs Superman 3”
Now I'm annoyed they're going to retcon the walk through.
GvS2 came across as a really petty attack against people who disagreed with GvS1. Way too soon after the first when there was new content on the horizon, it just felt really pointless.
They're just gonna have superman and goku T posting at each other then flying around in a circle.
Goku is gonna throw some ki blasts, superman will dodge it then shoot heat vision goku will dodge it, more flying around then Superman is gonna throw a rock at goku and goku is gonna power up in response...Then they'll fly at each other and they might kind of start hitting each other?...It'll be hard to tell because the camera is gonna start moving around a TON so you won't really know what's going on then they'll back off and t pose at each other some more.
then goku shoots a really big blast and superman blows up but then does the x ray heat vision thing and the fight is over. But if Therewolf does the music it's gonna have a sick song at least.
Dante vs Bayonetta 2 is going to be next year's chimpout
Whether they suck Kamiya's cock on Bayonetta feats or just have Dante negate all of whatever broken shit she gained last few games, it's gonna be funny.
Well Kamiya already said he would rather have them teamup and got sour about the whole concept, so changing to veredict to suck his dick ain't gonna endear them to him anyway.
You think Kamiya started to regret not letting Bayo in Project X-Zone because of how shitty he thought her Deathbattle episode was?
>Omniman vs Homelander
Who the fuck thought this was a good idea in the first place?
Their marketing team, because it's their best performing episode since Thanos vs Darkseid.
>noooooooo the drunken, hedonistic scientist based on the guy who played Judge Doom wasn't treated with enough gravitas!
Hey say what you want about Rick, but leave Christopher Lloyd out of this.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Dunno don't care, only retards even want Death Battle, and even bigger retards suggest characters they like, whereas spiteful retards suggest characters they hate.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>and even bigger retards suggest characters they like
This is why I'm thankful that nobody from my favorite series is in this dungpile of a webseries yet. There is absolutely no chance they'd do the series justice, even if they did go for it for some reason.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
A victory in that show never feels like a victory. It's only a temporarily relief.
just retcon GvS2, the only thing people care about in that episode is no limits Superman since besides that it's just a massive downgrade compared to the first
GvS1 was great
GvS2 could have been longer and not a gag match if they didn't suck TFS free advertising cock
What the fuck they mean by badly outdated? Obviously it's not Goku winning
>inb4 their 'research' means UT Goku would win but he doesn't get it because it's 'outside' help >inb4 the current SDBH arc has Majin Ozotto transcend the power of UT Goku and Fu and Goku beats him with his own power
Maybe swan can do columbo vs Harry instead of light just so he can get it out of his system.
Though, I do worry what his obsession would be after that....
>finale is light vs columbo
Double lol if Goku wins.
>Light VS Columbo
Should have been Harry
Maybe swan can do columbo vs Harry instead of light just so he can get it out of his system.
Though, I do worry what his obsession would be after that....
I don't think it's going to play out like an actual fight. More like a short film about the police investigation ending with the arrest of Kira followed by his death via Ryuk because he's not going to sit around and wait for his court hearing and execution.
It's why Harry VS Light works better as it makes more sense for Harry to actually kill him in the animation after a Half Light spergout
Did you really think it's going to be anything else? Also to be fair most of these fights are just fanfics but with violence. This one is just going to be a genuine fan fic animation. Light wouldn't fight, he's actually a coward. He only ever fought L because he underestimated L and was doing it for show to try to play up his innocence.
When ACTUALLY confronted and his worldview shattered you saw what he was really like: just some punk tripping over himself like a sick cornered animal.
I know death battle is all a fanfic, but this is just swan feeding light to columbo. A spite match if you will. There is no genuine debate to be had when it's an astroturfed match and one that is already rigged in the first place. Unless we see a good preview of the fight without a hint of bias or judgement it'll stay that way.
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I don't think it's going to play out like an actual fight. More like a short film about the police investigation ending with the arrest of Kira followed by his death via Ryuk because he's not going to sit around and wait for his court hearing and execution.
>That fucking smug asshole, he's probably laughing at you now on the inside. Look at that cunt stain son of a bitch! He's just begging to be laid out on the floor! >The jig is up. The fucker knows you've uncovered his true identity! >Maybe a good bloodletting is in order. >Kill him. Kill him now!
>The entire time, the doctor doesn’t actually throw any punches or shoots sonic beams at Rick, he just tries to outrun him or disarms him and even the final blow isn’t actually the Doctor shooting the gun but Rick shooting it
>The Doctor is painted more like a pacifist than god damn Steven Universe in his fight against Star
Lmao
hell he's even hesitant about using the De-Mat gun
even the rules of Death Battle barely apply to the doctor
They even refrain from having him use the gun himself. He reaches for it but stop's short of actually taking it out of the case.
>If the Doctor had taken the De-Mat Gun out already, Rick could have just shot him with it instead of having to wait until later. The Doctor’s own moral restraints made it so he was still standing and Rick wasn’t
It kind of makes sense, Steven doesn't completely eclipse Star so he wouldn't have a way of making her kill herself.
Plus Steven did technically kill someone in a blood-lusted state even if he fixed her after.
They even refrain from having him use the gun himself. He reaches for it but stop's short of actually taking it out of the case.
The Doctor holds back because he detests violence and doesn't want to tamper with fixed points in time.
A Doctor with more standard Death Battle rules would be more than willing to use the multiple dimensional level weapons stored in the tardis which he can access at any and every point in time.
That’s not the discussion, it’s as more about how acknowledging the writing of the actual fight kept in character of the Doctor manipulating events to defeat his enemy rather than shoot them himself
Wow. By the way, it looks like Rick isn't even the most powerful being in his universe that made by him. Total humiliation of Rick Sanchez on his field.
I want the Madoka movie to hurry up so we can get a clearer view of what Devil Homura and Ultimate Madoka can do. I mean, we could use Mami, Kyoko, and Sayaka in Death Battle, but they'll probably get an upgrade in the movie.
I hope they make Homura suffer an agonizing death that's as drawn out as fucking possible, though I can't imagine a death drawn out enough on this show to make up for how dog shit the ending of Rebellion was.
Good match ups for Diana?
I just started reading earth one and now I want to see her in the show again. I don't know too much about capeshit so the only interesting Fight I can think of is WW VS Kalifa (or kaleffa the female Broly that jobbed to ultra instinct Goku) but that shit is also kinda boring.
For the longest time I wanted the Zerg to fight the Xenomorphs.
The fight was decently lame to me in the same way Omnilander was. I get it's a stomp, but I would've liked it if Rick actually had an upper hand at any point rather than just the Doctor messing with him the whole time. His characterization felt off too. Rick is an asshole but they treated him like he was just a Saturday morning villain bragging about how he was going to kill the Doctor the whole time. He'd also never be retarded enough to listen to the guy he's trying to kill on how to deal with the Weeping Angels.
At least the Doctor was handled pretty well.
I really fucking hate how I'm imaging Gansta's Paradise over this gif.
Gravemind vs a Hive Mind would be cool. I don't think there's much the Flood can do against a Moon until they get into bookwank reality warping Keymind phase.
The fight was decently lame to me in the same way Omnilander was. I get it's a stomp, but I would've liked it if Rick actually had an upper hand at any point rather than just the Doctor messing with him the whole time. His characterization felt off too. Rick is an asshole but they treated him like he was just a Saturday morning villain bragging about how he was going to kill the Doctor the whole time. He'd also never be retarded enough to listen to the guy he's trying to kill on how to deal with the Weeping Angels.
At least the Doctor was handled pretty well.
I’d have preferred the Doctor actually wanting him but Rick blinking a bunch of times anyways like how Evil Morty knew every Rick would do the exact opposite of what they’re told
It would've been more in character for sure. In general the fight ended up meeting my fears of being an excuse to make fun of Rick the whole time, down to giving him one of the worst fates for a loser. If they don't like Rick, they shouldn't have bothered with the matchup if they aren't going to handle him properly.
Sure, he can deserve to die however, but I just wish he behaved more in character and had more of a fighting chance. Leave the stomp to the analysis, the fight's job is to be entertaining and fun.
Still not as spiteful as what they did with Sasuke.
>noooooooo the drunken, hedonistic scientist based on the guy who played Judge Doom wasn't treated with enough gravitas!
I hate Rick and Morty but if you're going to rep it at least try to do it in a way that won't completely piss of its fans. Then again if the tables were turned we both know those homosexuals would shit up this place.
It bothered me that he just left Morty in the ship. I would've liked if the Doctor used the screwdriver to make the ship take Morty back to Earth on autopilot. I guess in the ending we got, ghost Rick will guide Morty in getting back home.
Ghost rick will just build some device in hell that'll bring him back to life since every time he's stuck somewhere with nothing he improvises then he'll probably treat the doctor as another mandatory "RUN MORTY" thing.
Is anyone else incredibly disappointed that the episode didn't end with the Doctor bringing Morty into the TARDIS as his new companion? It would have been the perfect ending and all the pieces were in place for it.
People say Showa wins because "LE UNIVERSE LEVEL LORE"
I say Showa wins because he knows how to throw a punch
Simple as
He also knows Judo and Brazillian Jiu Jitsu.
Just imagine him trying to arm bar Shin's little baby T-Rex arms.
Please for the love of god axe the research team already. They're so fucking bad.
Biggest problem on the show is the v tuber gag shit. Get that shit removed first, then focus on having a better research team, or at least one without Speedy. Speedy is such a drag for the rest of the team.
It's the same reason why Rebirth Gamera bulldozes Godzilla Ultima.
Turns out being an actual combatant with legitimate feats beats a bunch of theoretical math fluff any day of the week.
That sounds so fucking bad. Not only do we have >Batman vs Spider-Man >Batman vs Cap >Batman vs Black Panther >Batman vs Iron Man
but we also have a handful of proxy Batman battles too >Batgirl vs Spider-Gwen >Red Hood vs Winter Soldier >Terry vs Miguel
The bat family is dramatically fucking over represented, and yo know if we get another fucking bat it's going to be a boring, overplayed Marvel vs DC shitfest. Again.
I'll call this one....is gonna be just a gag fight....not "gag" in the sense of full comedy but just a dumb attempt at being self-aware about "hey, what are we fighting again?" just for the sake of fellowship and to come up as "even despite everything, we all love each other and we are great".....probably a glurgy note.
He will continue being more popular than Supes, nobody cares about some fanfiction fight. Hell I could write a fic right now where Goku fucks Lois and shits on Clark. Nobody would care.
Power is everything! On a subconscious level, Goku will look like a weak without a single victory on the scale of the multiverse. Even Frieza wiped the floor with Transformers. And Goku got none victories.
So, this is why they're actually throwing a pre-recorded podcast up. It has nothing to do with Thanksgiving. They knew what the reaction to this would be.
Omniman vs Homelander is proof that doing thematic and fun fights with satisfying narrative through-lines throughout the fight creates more engagement than trying to pander to vs battle wiki autists that want "le perfectly matched fight".
Not to mention both characters were trendy topic around the time.
This show is just marketing bullcrap. Why do you think the first of the only two non-Marvel DC defeast were against Jinx from League Of Legend? Conveniently at the time the show was peaking and she was in everybody's butthole.
On the other hand, Jinx's episode did not do great.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Following trends doesn't equate success after all.
But you can't tell me they don't move for whatever seems convenient at the time. The "objective ultimate veredict" is bullcrap since it's inception and it will ever be.
Plus comic book fans are the biggest consumers of DB. Most other fandoms either are apathetic, some minority group like them but is also common other fandoms just find them bullcrap.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Plus comic book fans are the biggest consumers of DB. Most other fandoms either are apathetic, some minority group like them but is also common other fandoms just find them bullcrap.
I always suspected that capeshit readers had lower iq on average than other fan communities.
>This show is just marketing bullcrap. Why do you think the first of the only two non-Marvel DC defeast were against Jinx from League Of Legend? Conveniently at the time the show was peaking and she was in everybody's butthole.
Deathbattle has been a popularity contest since at least a decade except for a fight here and there.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Deathbattle has been a popularity contest >Except for when it isn't, then they're being contrarian for views!
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Didn't you paid attention? >has been a popularity contest since at least a decade except for a fight here and there.
Pointing exceptions doesn't mean that's how the average works.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>the average
Prove it.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Yang VS Tifa made just after the RT buying.
Starscream VS Rainbow Dash made along some brony trend when suddenly some idiot suggested a spiteful match.
Batman VS Black Panther coming at the time Blck Panther movie came into theaters more or less.
Tracer VS Scout made around the time the OW VS TF2 were at their worst.
Goku VS Superman 2 done because they were salty after the downvotes the first one had.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>ynr deathrattle made brony fights
Just dump this shit on /trash/ already.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Wait, you mean you're mad because they decide which fights to do based on what characters are relevant and currently being discussed? That's way dumber than what I thought you were arguing.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
They downplay Scout greatly in it's match, something everybody and their mother said back then.
Rd only have a couple of episode preparation and only resorted to the Starscream loser misconception (he's an unlucky schmuck but not harmless).
Yang VS Tifa was an obvious case of timing with RT buying, and Black Panther was in 2018 hailed as a "Black Superhero" movie.
Plus virtually all but two Non Marvel DC matchups are taken victorious to the point is a meme, which comes as awkward since RT belongs to warner media.
Plus...I never said about the veredicts being wrong, I'm just saying is just plain marketing tactics. Whatever veredict they get could be influenced by external factors.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Except for when it isn't, then they're being contrarian for views!
You've spent too much time on this site.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
They’ve done some fights with lesser-known vsautist characters over the years, but those often don’t get as many views as the ones with well-known characters.
He actually did remove Black's powers until he got them back. I don't know if he lobotomized anyone else, but the Justice Lords cartoon Superman lobotomized JLU Doomsday.
Not to mention Torqasm Vo can counter UI by giving it false stimulu to react to.
>Goku losing on martial arts skill
Death Battle, come on, let Goku have something here.
>let Goku have something here
Give Superman all his bullshit tools including omnipotent and omniscient magic "Sword of Superman" if it means migrants will finally stop crying foul.
Black would've been back on the street as he was being hauled away. He would've tested his powers. I think there was even a line right before this scan where he says "how are you not dying? I'm thinking it but I can't feel my powers" THEN superman gives him this line
So, what kind of martial arts training does Superman have?
I know most people off the top of their head Goku is better because he's a martial artist, but I assume most people saying that probably don't know much about Superman.
yeah
>There's a fourth
I always knew there would still be shills but damn...
It's /dbs/ shit posting.
Fourth of what, schizo?
who even consumes deathbattle on plain 2023 other than mentally stunted manchildren?
CHIs
?
Get out, newfag.
Gokubros and Supermanbros, how are we feeling about this match up?
Not good tbh. This was a rematch I was hoping would never happen, but it's coming just got to accept it. Will Goku finally get the W? I still think not. But this will probably be this year's most divisive match of the show.
The idea that Goku and Superman would be friends, I don't buy it. Goku wouldn't be interested in any of the boomer stuff Supes is into. And Superman has a pretty active social life outside of being a hero, Goku can't relate to that
So does Goku whenever he's not training, he wouldn't have made so many friends if the only thing he was good at is fighting.
He met all his friends fighting and adventuring, and of them you have about 3 nonfighters, 4 if you count Satan who is a fighter, just not a superhuman one.
Things superman and goku both like (but don't think this would be enough)
>love for the great outdoors
>fishing
>camping
>hiking
>burgers, shakes and apple pie
>farming
>country style living
Honestly I think they would at least be buddies, I personally think they'd be friends considering the incredibly unlikely types of bonds Goku has formed over the course of Dragon Ball, but to each their own.
In a way I can see Superman finding Goku's naïve simplicity endearing. But they would definitely butt heads when it comes to handling bad situations but then Goku does that with a lot of people and they're still friends.
Superman could at least trust Goku to defend the Earth and would probably get along very well with Gohan and his family.
Other than fishing I don't think Goku does anything on your list. He doesn't even farm because he wants to, ChiChi makes him.
What do you mean? When Gohan was a kid he and Goku were always running off into the wilderness together to have play around camp and have fun. They'd go "fishing" just so they have something to bring back.
Eh, what? Did Super just erase all of what you’ve seen in DB and DBZ? Goku does like to chill in the countryside where he lives, it is what he did for years before he even started martial arts.
GvS2 was already unnecessary, but it at least made it clear that the result for this match up would always be the same no matter how strong goku got, this just feels like a very desperate move and i can't even wrap my head around why they'd do this a third time aside from the obvious possibility of giving goku the win to appease dbspics, overall it's a really bad choice for a remake, kinda sucks too cause they were having a damn good streak with their match ups lately
Right now, they're probably fishing for the viewership numbers, because they know Zaslav is walking around with an ax culling unprofitable parts of WB. Tournaments to get the hype matches that should bring numbers, killing the early preview to increase the total views day of, and a lot of big matches in a row, because if they aren't pulling the viewership, they're out.
Yeah I don’t think Warner is going to “axe” the subsidiary with the most consistent seven digit viewership of them all. I have no idea how or why you think they would.
>But the old views!
Were entirely matchup dependent. Big matchup + big franchise = big views. Lame matchup + big franchise = regular to good views. Plus time is still a factor, a big amount of the views on the older fights come from rewatches/people watching them years later.
Because all they bring in is ad dollars, they already had Beerus vs. Galaxia pulled from youtube, any future fight could meet the same fate, so they now have to prove overall that their profitability is sustainable, since due to the nature of the show they likely can't port it to Max.
What is this logic.
>Warner might get rid of a money maker because it might get a video removed again (something they can avoid by just not using manga panels from Sailor Moon)
Are you a spic? Because your line of thinking is very spic like, as in it’s retarded and makes no sense. I’m gonna call you my Latinx Spiccy from now on
Because Zaslav's cancellations have made no damn sense. He outright cancelled a Batman cartoon series that is now heading to Prime(nothing to do with stupid Christmas movie), but didn't can the Flash or Blue Beetle movies. And if you think that DB is more profitable than fucking Batman, I think you're the spic.
You’re still not making sense my Latinx companion. Think about it like this:
Why would they cut off a subsidiary of a subsidiary that’s already proven that they can earn their keep while also making back the money that RT gives them. Give me an answer beyond “layoffs don’t make sense”
Also, if YOU think that the same people who handle animated cartoons made for general TV audiences require the same amount of funding as a YouTube show, then you’re a level beyond a Latinx. You’re just dumb.
>Latinx
You're the one not making sense my ESL friend. Zaslav has been cutting costs across the company. The DB team is obviously worried, otherwise we wouldn't have the tournaments, they wouldn't have cut early viewings, Goku vs. Superman is happening again, something I predicted would happen when things started going downhill. It's not about total cost, it's about profitability, and if they aren't making money, he's going to axe them, plain and fucking simple.
I think anon is underestimating how iron fisted and short sighted corps can be. Esp if there's new heads.
In DB's case, it's more of cost/effectiveness ratio. The show should theoretically have next to no cost, but they outsource all of the major creative material and have a large, and largely useless, 'research' team working on the core nugget it's built around. It can't be sustainable.
Please for the love of god axe the research team already. They're so fucking bad.
Ben has supposedly credited the team for allowing them to do matches with characters they normally wouldn't do due to their esoteric nature or very lengthy amount of material associated with them.
And yet they still manage to butcher shit constantly
cough cough Dark Souls.
Also axe the cutaway gag animators. Faceless voices are way cheaper, and less annoying
>it’s about profitability
You would have a point if you actually started off by talking about things that, you know, impacted overall profits.
>tournaments
Are for fans, and the fans that are willing to pay for subscriptions aren’t comparable to the revenue they’d gain from general viewership and advertisers.
>Early premiers
See the above.
>Goku Vs Superman 3
See the above, again. Unless you have some actual insider information on both the DB crews profits AND Warner Brothers as a whole, I’m opting to call you optimistic at best and actually retarded at worst. What’s funny is that DB isn’t even RT’s most cost heavy show, far from it. That’d go to the ones that require live action crews and the likes, so those guys would more than likely get shot before anyone else.
>while also making back the money that RT gives
To be fair tgis is most likely being done because RT is on fire right now
THIS.
Fuck if it was at least kid Goku VS Superboy (Clark) that would be interesting.
Steel VS Piccolo. Super Girl VS Gohan. Batman VS Yamcha. There are still ways to do this without doing a match that's been done to death.
I’m telling you guys, it’s going to be a joke episode. The fight is going to be a shitpost. Call me crazy if you want, but I’ll be here when I’m inevitably correct.
>GvS2 was already unnecessary,
As long as Goku grows in strength these battles will never be unnecessary.
i'd agree if the guy he was fighting wasn't the other most jerked off character in fiction ever, i could at least find a little bit of interest for friezatron because i knew there were versions of megs that could actually put up a fight against frieza and was curious to see how many of their feats would be pulled for that MU, this on the other hand is still as predictable as it was 10 years ago because dc characters in general are extremely fucking boring powercreeps and only become even more extremely fucking boring powercreeps as time goes on, which is saying something considering this is a dragon ball episode
>i'd agree if the guy he was fighting wasn't the other most jerked off character in fiction ever
I thought that was Batman or Joker tbh
Batman has been complete dogshit in DC for years now. All his comic runs are ass because they’re written by Marvelcuck fags. Everything the character does is unheroic and associated with evil schizo shit. Then I try to get away from it and go to the movies and he’s a retard there too.
DC characters aren't that strong, the ridiculously cherry-picked and wanked versions battleboarders use are.
They are they just bat low a lot because it keeps things interesting. It's work like anything else with a paid salary so if there's no villains there's no work.
I'm just questioning why. I guess if it's a remix.
Easy skip.
I can live without hearing another tirade about "Superman unbeatable because he's a symbol and I stroke my cock to that symbol".
Feeling confident it will be the definitive gvs despite the malding from these retarded children.
Goku has to win by default for the inevitable fourth one
If he loses, there's no point. 3 death battles with the same outcome, if they pull it again nobody will watch the fourth one
Or…they’ll just use the outrage to get more clicks.
The outrage can't work forever, they'll have to hand Goku a win sooner or later.
I'm already not watching the third one. Get off this dick, Death Battle.
I mean this is composite Goku basically. No real point doing it again after this one way or the other.
I honestly think they're going to have them tie in this fight.
>But it contradicts all their research!
Big fucking whoop they change their standards constantly.
They didn't even do "research" for the second fight. They used SSB before RoF even came out and bascally said they didn't need to do research because Superman has no limits
RoF had been out for months when the second one came out. It was just as strong as Frieza's new form, with nothing to really compare it to, other than stronger than SSG.
Fuck I meant DBS. The fight came out 2 weeks after Super
But there wasn't anything in Super to research yet. It would still be 3 weeks before Beerus fought Goku on Kai's planet. It was a Goku fan boys pushed after Battle of the Gods, because Goku just got a new powerful form, and that would surely be enough.
Doesn't matter, my point is that they didn't do any research before that fight because cause the thought process was "it doesn't matter because Superman has no limits". They coukd have waited but didn't because they already had the outcome decided
aren't they gonna use composite Superman? is there anyone or anything from DB that can handle Thot Robot?
they said Infinite Frontier Supermam
Again? Why?
It's what the network wants, why bother to complain?
The Earth remains their goal, some things they can't control...
Characters this season that beat Gojo
>No diff tier
Discord
Bill cypher
Raven
Phoenix
Frieza
The doctor
Silver Surfer
Martian manhunter
Courage
Schooby
Son Goku
Clark Kent
>Low diff tier
Ant man (can possibly tank UV because scientist supreme brain, also ants lack CE so he can just kill Gojo with ants inside his domain)
Stitch (same as Megatron, super brain tanks UV and just kills Gojo inside his domain)
Megatron (outstats and tanks all of Gojo's arsenal, kills Gojo inside his domain)
Rick Sanchez (could possibly tank UV for a moment and the portal gun can bypass Limitless easily)
>Mid diff tier
Obito (kamui bypasses limitless and Gojo can't do shit against Rikudo)
Vader (force bypasses limitless)
Dovahkiin (soul fuckery alone kills Gojo, but he has like 10 other ways to do it)
Characters this season Gojo beats
>High diff tier
Chosen Undead (lore wise he outclasses Gojo in almost all aspects, but he lacks ways to go around Limitless and UV. His Silence + his speed can give him the chance to land a killing blow, But Gojo can heal himself. CU will also return way more times, and while Gojo can't run naturally out of Energy there is a chance the lack of food and sleep fuck him over. Still It's likely Gojo wins more often than not)
>Mid diff tier
Makima
Rocket Raccoon (guns can decimate Gojo inside his domain but otherwise can't bypass Limitless)
Alex Mercer (sorcerers are weak against viruses, but besides that Gojo can kill him before getting infected)
Cole (faster and has a Wincon with the energy absorption, but can't bypass Limitless or UV)
>Low diff tier
Misaka Mikoto (would surprise Gojo with speed, but can't hurt Gojo)
Killua (same as Misaka but worse)
Atom (unless he enters Gojo's anus and gets big again I don't think he can survive UV or bypass Limitless)
Dimitri (unless he can cast magic directly inside his opponents he lacks any way to hurt Gojo, let alone survive his attacks)
>No diff tier
Guts (angry big sword man can't really do anything against him)
why do you keep spelling scooby like that
Sorry, my dyslexic ass can't get complicated names right.
Doc vs Rick has kept pace with 500k viewership over 5 hours. How good is that in comparison to their usual? I assume that it's pretty fucking great.
Pretty good. A million in 24 hours seems to be a new norm
How are people in Sri Lanka taking the news?
Stop insulting Superman fans.
I hear Batman Son Of Superman is elated, if bewildered.
I thought they were still fighting that civil war
they're watching the 2012/13 season of english footy
THE IMP OF THE PANDORICA
THE SHADOW OF THE VALEYARD
THE BEAST OF TRENZALOR
THE BUTCHER OF SKULLMOON
THE LAST TREE OF GARSENNON
THE DESTROYER OF SCARO
THE ONCOMING STORM
HE IS THE DOCTOR OF WAR
congratz!
So who could Morty fight? Would these guns help?
>Let it be known, this bit continued for several more guns
Nobita Nobi
Basically
Obligatory.
IR with bm's is worse than homosexuality.
CHADZILLA BROS
DOUBLE CAMEO
Who's on the right? Millennium Goji?
Godzilla 2000
Unleashed Wii model
So what's the significance of it? They just put it there to populate the background
I think that might actually be Kiryu.
Where? What am I looking at?
>this is actually a hint
>final is a Godzilla Battle Royal
He won't win, but I'll root for Showa.
What do you think about the Universe Level Showa wank?
Kind of ridiculous. But hey, if that gets Showa to win the BR, sure, whatever, I'll take it. I love my big cookie monster looking dude.
People say Showa wins because "LE UNIVERSE LEVEL LORE"
I say Showa wins because he knows how to throw a punch
Simple as
He also knows Judo and Brazillian Jiu Jitsu.
BJJ is a meme. Muay Thai rapes
Anon you're probably new to the whole 'fighting art' stuff but BJJ is actually a con not a pro. Judo can stay but blow jobber is a shit art.
I’m getting two different answers. What’s wrong with Brazilian Jiu Jitsu
I wasn't giving you a different answer BJJ IS a meme. It has zero takedown awareness, the users get lulled into a false sense of security thinking they can neglect athleticism. Just walk into a muay thai class and then a BJJ class and you'll see what I mean. They also lie to you and tell you that you can face bigger guys when in reality at best it'll help you SURVIVE not getting your face smashed instantly.
Also the tournaments and rulesets disqualify you if your opponent pulls guard and you lose balance and fall on them. They call it 'slamming'. Also this is coming from someone with 6 years of BJJ. Judo is better, wrestling is better mostly because of the takedown DEFENSE and they have much better takedowns + control.
Is it true BJJ doesn’t have kicking or punching?
Yeah that's true. And when you add punches and kicks into the mix BJJ loses a TON of it's cohesion. Look at combat jiu jitsu worlds. They added ground and pound into the mix and you'll notice how most of the people who do mma and participate stomp because the element of realism with striking kind of crumbles a lot of the 'not particularly athletic' types.
The more athletic dudes can hang but you'll see that when they get hit a few times the pressure caves them. There was a saying that went something like "Punch a black belt and he turns into a brown belt. Punch him again and he turns into a purple belt…" ect
So JUST bjj sucks? Can you add anything useful from it to actual fighting?
Anything BJJ has I think Judo or wrestling can do better. If you're a strong wrestler and come to a class you're automatically almost purple belt material same with Judo. The elements of takedowns and top control are far too valuable. Plus just knowing how to not get taken down will immediately alienate you in a class lmfao. But BJJ can be fun if you have a girlfriend.
In fairness to BJJ, wrestlers in general make great fighters in terms of potential
I know, it's just of what I said earlier. BJJ classes lull you into a false sense of security when it comes to the whole 'bjj can make even the weakest defeat the strong!' it's a lie but it sells. Its what makes people neglect athletics. Why wrestlers are better by default is not just techniques because it's wrestling culture that says they MUST be in PHENOMENAL physical condition for it.
Being more jacked than your opponent isn't the biggest trump card but it also makes so many things infinitely easier to do.
People need to learn size matters, like yeah you could maybe beat someone in good shape if they never fought in their life. But like, actual core strength is a big deal for a reason. Life isn’t Cobra Kai where dad bods and nerdy teenagers kick ass
Yeah in order for you to win if you're smaller is you have to be at the top of your game, in incredible shape relative to your opponent and far more experienced and skilled at keeping the fight at your comfort zone while having the determination and resolve to cause great physical harm to another human.
The last part is harder than you realize.
The funny thing is that striking martial arts are a LOT better at getting over weight gaps. Punching someone in the jaw is going to fucking hurt
Contrary to what a lot of martial arts manga say, Boxing completely negs almost anything that isn't MMA any day of the week.
Boxing + wrestling is the GOAT combo. That the old occidental stuff steamrolls 99 percent of oriental arts was the true discovery of MMA that got smothered by the Gracies promoting BJJ from the rooftops.
>The Gracies
They don’t even look human
>No kicking
Come on son.
>No kicking
They always use this same excuse.
This is bullshit.
>Boxers are a joke to a real grappler
Baki doesn’t even grapple
That used to be true back during like UFC 1 when no one knew what what to do on the ground unless they took wrestling/judo, but that was some time ago, and people know how to sprawl now, so striking arts have more efficacy.
Judo is solid. You will be amazed how fast a judoka can smash you against the planet. It sometimes get some shit for lol point fighting but look up absolute chads like Gene LeBell.
Which is worse. Aikido or BJJ?
Aikido by far. BJJ can at least be used to restrain your drunk uncle at a birthday party. Aikido will have you get slept by said drunk uncle as you try to grab his wrist.
Now I wanna hear about why Aikido sucks
No resistance sparring. That's the main reason a lot of McDojo arts suck.
>That's the main reason a lot of McDojo arts suck.
What would you say is the martial art that actually works?
>Try
Boxing/kickboxing/muay thai, wrestling, judo/jiujitsu (jiujitsu is judo with more of a focus on ne waza).
>Avoid
Kung-fu of all kinds, krav maga, tae kwon do, akido, karate (though I have heard good things about the kudo side of karate, I'm honestly not that knowledgeable on it)
nigga the only time you go out of the house is for mc donalds stfu
>t. TKDork.
tf is TK copeworld?
TKD is a common abbreviation for tae kwon do.
Helio always looked like one of those Shugendo mummy monks.
nerdy shit no wonder otto knows about it
men do boxing
Stop posting, you're punch drunk.
how about you kiss my balls and digits fag?
>Doesn’t know
It’s an abbreviation of Tae Kwon Dork, stupid yaw8t
You should probably stop talking about things you don't know.
But Otto's actually right.
I only need one martial art
>Kung-fu of all kinds
Like the art itself or the McDojos that teach it?
True Shaolin Monks are insanely physically honed. They can make it work, because it's not an art that can just be learned by anyone over a couple of months. It's a lifetime dedication
Chinese martial arts were kneecapped into limited contact, no resistance tai chi shit by Mao because any sort of self defense doesn't work under communist ideology. Then they were further kneecapped by fantasy martial arts that brainwashed people into thinking that you could actually knock someone down by waving your hand at them and firing a ki blast like dragon ball.
There's a good documentary on "traditional" Chinese martial arts vs real fighting here:
Basically, a dude got his life ruined because he had the guts to fraud check kung fu masters.
Remember that chinese MMA dude a while back who beat the shit out of a Tai Chi guy and got harassed online for it?
Not just one Tai Chi guy, a whole bunch of them.
Poor Tai Chi dudes. It’s not their fault everything they believe in is stupid
Didn't Bruce Lee do the same thing once?
Bruce Lee did some real sparring and was very interested in the real side of fighting. It's extremely likely that if he lived longer he would have gotten into early MMA and Shooto.
Thoughts on Ali vs Inoki?
Example 0 for why the Gracies stomped shit at the dawn of UFC. Strikers didn't know wtf to do when it came to ground fighting.
I used to lurk on Bullshido forums.
It's sad that China has been brainwashed into making shit martial arts their culture.
The funny thing is that there is a move that can fuck anyone up with minimal effort.
Throat poke
>judo/jiujitsu (jiujitsu is judo with more of a focus on ne waza).
Does judo actually work? I’m learning a lot about martial arts today
>Plus once you're crashed in and tied up with someone an untrained person (aikido has no clinch work but neither does the crack head down the street) will just lose balance and fall over and your 10 years will be nothing when you're in deep waters (the ground) rolling around with limbs flying everywhere.
You do good descriptions man
Judo works even if a person is wearing something light like a t-shirt. I'd give gi jiu jitsu a pass if they forced you to focus on takedowns before grappling but again that's what makes it suck is the pure ground focus. Judo is great because they force you to learn the throws and THEN do the ground work. Imagine landing a hip toss on concrete? But all grappling arts suffer if you and your opponent are sweaty. It's another reason bjj sucks in MMA. longer fights, more sweat, harder to secure shit.
Or if you pull a Meguro, but you have to have both a crazy grip and absolutely no sanity or regard for anyone else's wellbeing
What this anon said. If you're a good striker even if you're smaller you actually can deal with the weight disparity MUCH easier. Remember height and weight is far more valuable in a grappling match but if your opponent can't actually grab you being able to hit and move without getting tied up will lead you to victory especially if that's your go to fighting style.
Punching someone in the jaw is something that almost always bypasses weight classes.
It's funny. Baki's kind of a little shit at points but we love him for it
Aikido doesn't have very many practical uses. Some joint locks can be applied in a grappling sense if you can actually get past a resisting opponent. But Even if you spend 10 years trying wrist locks and throws it's actually hard to do half of that when someone is throwing their fists at you with everything they have and crashing into you and tying you up.
Plus once you're crashed in and tied up with someone an untrained person (aikido has no clinch work but neither does the crack head down the street) will just lose balance and fall over and your 10 years will be nothing when you're in deep waters (the ground) rolling around with limbs flying everywhere.
Plus the basic principle behind it is poorly used within the art itself.
Turning an enemies weight against them can be done if you understand the direction they're going and control them that way. Turn with the punch logic
Would unironically be a kino finale, which is why it'll instead be something lame.
>A new battle royal
>It's wasted on yet another fucking "hurr all these characters from the same universe who wins?" match up.
I'm so fucking tired of how samey DB is in its match structure.
Give me a battle royal with characters from different settings.
Give me a real fucking team vs team battle that isn't god damned Red vs Blue.
Give me some naval combat, or a good space dog fight.
Give me a clash of fictional armies where the armies actually fucking matter for once.
Give me something that isn't "character A that dodges lasers punches character B that dodges lasers for 2 minutes".
>Suit symbol
>Not a businessman suit but symbolizing a rubber suit like the Godzilla actors wore
goku vs. superman 3 will end in gay sex
superman tops
Superman is canonically a bottom
He kept that gladiator outfit for bed
Superman vs Goku 3 will have Goku flying into Superman's fortress, knocking down some vials of super aids, getting sick and then dying of some kinda heart illness.
Can he beat Goku?
Yes.
Reminder that Goku doesn't know math. His wife told him to buy 10kg of bread and he only bought 2 baghetes. That's at most just 500 grams.
at least he tried
This is boring. Yall boring. This thread is boring.
Truth.
>Ends with Superman ripping the simulation apart, taking Goku out with him and telling Wiz and Boomstick enough is enough before talking about how both he and Goku inspire people before showing footage of men in Superman S tank tops and Goku Gi Tank Tops getting Cinemaphile and that's all that really matters to Superman, before offering Goku the best Pretzels and Hot Dogs in Metropolis.
I thought this whole scenario was dogshit, but now I lowkey want to see a real crossover.
>GojoBITCH only showed up near the end of the thread to brag about himself while samefagging
It's funny how mindbroken the gojotard is. Having his own manga BTFO the NLF he loved to throw around clearly did a number on him.
Why don’t they do something a little different? Like use Vegeta.
lmao
>he fled
>Gojotard only shows up when he's being called out
Who the fuck is Gojo?
He is HIM
Gpjobber, useless twink who died to basic space hax after years of his fanboys wanking him.
a guy who died a humiliating death
The Strongest apparently
>strongest
>defeated and turned into a onahole
>Strongest
You guys think Sukuna switches holes?
Don't you see? Even without his brain to tell his legs to keep standing, and without his torso to act as a counter balance, his legs yet stand. True strength!
That's just his awful fat pants
Go away spic tourist
But Gojo is really popular in southamerica
Doctor fodder
Savior of death battle
Wrong image?
Courage is already forgotten, sorry
The best matchup of the entire season, I KNEEL...
The match convinced me that cartoon death matches should be shelved. There's just something painfully unfunny about an amalgamation Scooby repeating a bunch of jokes that weren't even particularly funny in their original form sorry 80s fags, A Pup Named Scooby Doo is fucking shit. And mashing all the Scoobies together itself feels really disingenuous.
Biggest cuck
The new GER
Scooby Doo victim in a fight and episodes quality
Your baby daddy.
Finally, a good feat for Superman.
He didn't have to murder Piccolo like that.
Funny
Azula vs Shadow Stalker (Worm)
who?
Teen vigilante from the Parahuman/Worm series. She's a cunt.
And yes that is a mask she's wearing
I think Avatar is too sovlful for a third rate popular contest youtube series which is fanfiction tier.
It would be fun seeing Grey voice acting as Azula again though which wouldnt be hard since she's seemingly broke.
I'm not asking for it to be made into an episode I'm asking for the opinions of any shitposter who cares to comment.
Well idk who the other girl is, but Azula's power might be hard to determine since she gets some ridiculous overpowered boosts (fanfiction tier again) in some terrible comics post-series.
A few examples I can remember are when Zuko re-directs her lightning to her chest and she's only knocked down or when she vanishes into smoke without even using her hands.
They've already used Aang and Zuko
And it was shit. That's why I am saying these series are too sovlful for a third-rate youtube series mainly consumed by spics.
After a long hard fought battle.. Azula blasts her with lightning and kills that fucking ni-
>ni-
?
gger.
Shadow Stalker is a cunt who deserves to die.
He meant night night anon. I hope you have sweet dreams :3
Stalker is physically a normal female athlete outside of her mist form and she doesn't even have a gun.
Azula could beat er to death without even using bending.
She has a crossbow though and could easily mist around and snipe Azula with it.
Also what is this "normal physical athlete" shit? So is Azula and every other bender/normie in Avatar.
>Stalker is physically a normal female athlete
And she still dukes it out with physically stronger people than Azula whose also just a normal female trained athlete. Plus a fight between them wouldn't be coming down to whose gonna hand to hand the other.
Seriously? Wasted trips.
Stalker is a completely baseline human with the ability to get intangible with an extreme weakness to fucking electricity(i.e. lightning). This against a superhuman martial artist that couuld evade aang+toph without her bending and oh...that's right she has a penchant for the use of lightning. You think Azula *doesn't* hard scale above the Yuyan Archers?
Breaker 3, Stranger 2, Mover 1
Yeah just 'baseline human' lmao. I think Azula wins but way to out yourself as having no idea what the fuck you're talking about.
>Goku vs Superman again
How many times must Goku be humbled?
He has never been humbled.
Death Battle is going to admit they have been lying for years to get rage clicks from Dragon Ball fans. They've been debunked for years.
Why are Super forms so much lazier than literal fanon shit.
AF is best
Honestly, it's probably BECAUSE they're official that they feel so lazy, but I also admit that I have a soft spot for Super Saiyan God when drawn by Yuya Takahashi
SSJ4 didn't have that issue though, I think them moving away so far from the Saiyan's ape aspects is part of why the new Saiyan forms feel so lazy, it's not like they still can't make new forms that feel appropriate cool, most people like UI, they just need to focus less on making straight upgrade forms, it doesn't work out most of the time.
Super Saiyan 4 is just taken from a single shot when Goku goes Super Saiyan 3. And they recolored it.
>Literal nonsense
Denoued.
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>Still frame literally shown to be significantly different from SSJ4
Retardbro...
>Delusional cope
KEKAROONI
>It's a recolor because I say so STOP PROVING HOW WRONG I AM AAAAAAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
I will never get how the human race can look at one thing and get wildly different interpretations.
The duality of man. It's also how you can read IQ levels 🙂
Man dubbed Dragon ball with the american soundtrack is infinitely better than the original jap version by thousands of miles.
I always knew Cinemaphile appreciated the CHADdub more than the original.
Nice cope
I believe it.
He's too retarded to be humbled.
So now that Doctor is gone, what are Master's matchups ?
John Cena
Kang the Conqueror
Loki
Reverse-Flash
Remember, Death Battle said, unequivocally, that SpongeBob beats Goku.
Dead.
Saiyan.
Walking.
Can he beat Superman though?
Depends on the result of SpongeBob/Popeye, if they do it...and I honestly think they will.
Weren't they originally going to bring Goku back vs Sailor Moon, but balked when they found she won decisively?
No, Goku stomps
Sailor is barely universal
Not according to Death Battle. Usagi was too strong for gokek, so they did Galaxia vs Beerus instead.
SURPASSEDrus?
Pre Super they have Goku stomping sailor moon now thanks super
No way that shit is real
Spongebob beats Superman too though
Yeah, if the string thing beats Goku then I don't see him lasting long.
I don't see how she wins. They had Galaxia at maybe 9 universes and Vegeta at several thousand.
>triple supercope
>quoting nobody
Coward's cope.
don't need to when the superfags screech so loud
...he screeched, shrilly.
Any good matchups for her ?
Rick
I've got an idea for a matchup but it'll never happen because of how unknown both characters are. America Chavez vs Sideways (yes another DC vs Marvel fight). They're new gen teenage latinos with the power to make portals in a specific shape.
>they're gonna use the most spic-fic version of Goku possible against current Superman and Supes is still gonna win
Glorious.
What are the chances that they cave in to spics and darkies and give stuff like AF and SMBZ mu's
You know what's gonna suck? This fight will probably be like 3 or 4 minutes.
There's no way in hell they'll cheap out like that on Goku vs Superman, not if they want to retain their fandom and viewers.
Reminders that even if either Goku or Superman wins, they just milking it for views for their half ass season.
That's whatever Goku vs Superman video has been.
Soooo
Goku loses still with xenoverse/heroes?
No, he stomps
Yeah.
Also, Superman's gotten MORE buffs in the new run. Even without Clark's new and better instant transmission, he would have still won.
NO
Coolest part of the episode
I wish they did more stuff like this.
Which was?
Bouncing across time and space. They could have had Rick bring the fight to the Citadel to confuse the Doctor with all the Ricks. I'm quite sure what the ending with all the Rick clones was supposed to be. Did Rick ever duplicate himself? It feels like that scene should have been the Meeseeks.
He has life-model decoys
But his decoys never worked for him. I mean, I guess he could use some sort of control phrase to snap them to his side, but that's speculative. It just seemed like that scene should have used Meseeks, especially when they talked about the Meseeks earlier.
this image just screams 'reddit' to me.
Rick was TRAPPED and BETRAYED inside the Hyperbolic WEEPING ANGEL chamber
The Weeping Angels are nightmare fuel
I'd like Rick and Morty a lot more if it had monsters and villains even half as cool as the ones in Doctor Who.
If superman has no limits now and wins the ep what's the new ritual post?
One of them must lurk here if the first thing they felt they had to retcon away was them saying Superman has no limits
>DC confirmed to be 6D at MOST
>CHADgon CHAD CHADRoes is AT LEAST 8D
But could Superman beat Goku at an eating contest?
I found him. First Action Figure Superman's opponent.
It really blows the first superman figure out of the water
They did what they could with Depression era materials. No plastic at all, completely wood with a cloth cape.
I don't think you could rightfully call it an action figure, but Tarzan had a pretty neat clay statue in given as a promotion for his 1932 radio show. It's probably the best "toy" of the 30's.
Why didn’t they just do Vegeta instead?
Vegeta would point his thumb at himself and it would be immediately curtains
>Xeno/Heroes Bejita getting manhandled by Rune King Thor
Would've been more funnier tbh
But Xeno or Heroes Vegeta absolutely gape Rune Thor
Is anyone else incredibly disappointed that the episode didn't end with the Doctor bringing Morty into the TARDIS as his new companion? It would have been the perfect ending and all the pieces were in place for it.
Doctor doesn't travel with boys any more after the whole "Adric plummets to his death from upper atmosphere" thing
>The GTbro is mindbroken
>The anti GTbitch is coping
K, b, c.
Since Death Battle is shilling CHADroes content I think Fu vs Superboy Prime would make sense.
Rick was humbled that day.
Face a real warrior, Son Goku!
didn't Superman knock his ass out?
Effortlessly.
Effortlessly.. in my dreams.
>b-but this non canon comic..
Nice numbers
I think I know what the season finale will be, to concur with a recent Cinemaphile release.
Scott Pilgrim vs. Travis Touchdown
That's an easy fight to keep in "storage" for such an occasion.
Nope. It should've been tomorrow's podcast episode, instead of Swan beating off to Dark Souls lore.
Can they please just leave Souls lore alone after butchering it in their CU vs DB episode
>Superman when he sees Goku rolling up to clap his cheeks
Oh hey, it's Flashpoint Superman!
>gay fantasies
typical gokufags
>Death Battle thread will be the /a/ and Cinemaphile thread until Superman vs Goku 3 ends
We sure live in interesting times.
technically since DW is on topic here, so is Cinemaphile
Also Cinemaphile
Superman is bullet proof though
Ki infused bullets too strong
Inb4 Goku loses and dbspics act like they never cared
As one of the local /dbs/fags I will in fact care if my HERO loses, it might be a bit overdone by this point but he's a cool character with a lot of history with Superman when it comes to battleboarding autism, especially when Death Battle seems to have retconned the second match out by claiming it's irrelevant, whatever happens I WILL be watching.
I actually kneel to you because you’re actually more mature than the rest of us here
Rick and Dr. Who was the best fight of the season.
i'm so happy to see Doctor Who get representation in DB at all
and to top it all off seeing him dunk on that drunk fuck made it all the more worth it
>Since the last time we fought; the most recent big project with my name was a cheesy love story anons only liked for Lois.
>The next big project for me is getting turned into babies.
Seems they have some things to commiserate over.
I'll take it from the lack of shitposting that the Doctor won?
Rick got rolfstomped bad
Rick shitposting has been sacrificed for even more Dargonball and Capeshit shitposting.
No matter who wins, everyone else loses.
That's not shocking I guess, the Doctor does get wanked super fucking hard for a guy whose greatest enemies have a crippling weakness to stairs.
Kind of sad it couldn't be Richards out autisming Rick, especially since that would have saved us from the almost guaranteed and horribly matched Reed vs Plastic Man
yeeeeeeeep
Rick was out of his tier. There should have been better plot armor.
Rick lost, it hasn't been celebrated much because Goku vs Superman 3 has completely overshadowed the match.
Genuine celebrations rarely go past the initial thread, it's only shitposting from shit fanbases that lasts any amount of time.
Rick lost but most people already figured that going in given all the hard counters Doctor had
BTW: they clarified that the main reason there’s doing GvS3 is that they, (The DB team), feel that GvS1&2 has become badly outdated in terms of writing and especially animation, and they want to redo it one final time, (with updated production and full composites now), to make sure the most legendary matchup in VS history finally has a equally legendary episode to call home
Basically, Ben and Chad don’t see GvS1&2 as “canon” to DB anymore and thus, they have the next time as just “Goku vs Superman” and not “Goku vs Superman 3”
Lame. GvS1 had SOUL. GvS2 can be thrown in the trash though
>One final time
Pffff. They'll make a 4th in half a decade and everyone knows it.
GvS1 came from the series at its peak. I don't really care about a GvS from a DB deep into its decline.
Lol so superman is winning again as this is just an “update”
What the fuck do they mean "especially the animation" 2's fight was great.
GvS2 sucked
You can't sit there and act like Superman walking through Goku's Kamehameha wasn't kino.
Now I'm annoyed they're going to retcon the walk through.
GvS2 came across as a really petty attack against people who disagreed with GvS1. Way too soon after the first when there was new content on the horizon, it just felt really pointless.
>What the fuck do they mean
Basically, Ben and the rest of the DB team have the opinion of
Modern Death Battle animations >> Classic Death Battle animations
(To clarify: They count season 1-3 as “Classic Death Battle” and Season 4 onwards as “Modern Death Battle”)
Season 2's 2D stuff was the best animated in the series.
They're just gonna have superman and goku T posting at each other then flying around in a circle.
Goku is gonna throw some ki blasts, superman will dodge it then shoot heat vision goku will dodge it, more flying around then Superman is gonna throw a rock at goku and goku is gonna power up in response...Then they'll fly at each other and they might kind of start hitting each other?...It'll be hard to tell because the camera is gonna start moving around a TON so you won't really know what's going on then they'll back off and t pose at each other some more.
then goku shoots a really big blast and superman blows up but then does the x ray heat vision thing and the fight is over. But if Therewolf does the music it's gonna have a sick song at least.
dam this shit looks janky af
hi ben when are we getting a ryona match up?
tomorrow on your mothers bedroom lol
after shitren defeats gohan beast
Despite it being a RvB fight, god damn I liked Meta vs Carolina. Nice choreography and good use of the music.
%21
Dante vs Bayonetta is a peak death battle. One of the best fights like Scooby vs Courage.
>peak death battle
not quite the high bar innit
Did Bayo 3 give her anything that could have helped her win?
Dante vs Bayonetta 2 is going to be next year's chimpout
Whether they suck Kamiya's cock on Bayonetta feats or just have Dante negate all of whatever broken shit she gained last few games, it's gonna be funny.
Well Kamiya already said he would rather have them teamup and got sour about the whole concept, so changing to veredict to suck his dick ain't gonna endear them to him anyway.
You think Kamiya started to regret not letting Bayo in Project X-Zone because of how shitty he thought her Deathbattle episode was?
Their marketing team, because it's their best performing episode since Thanos vs Darkseid.
Hey say what you want about Rick, but leave Christopher Lloyd out of this.
Dunno don't care, only retards even want Death Battle, and even bigger retards suggest characters they like, whereas spiteful retards suggest characters they hate.
>and even bigger retards suggest characters they like
This is why I'm thankful that nobody from my favorite series is in this dungpile of a webseries yet. There is absolutely no chance they'd do the series justice, even if they did go for it for some reason.
A victory in that show never feels like a victory. It's only a temporarily relief.
Told you fags it's just a rushed up cash in
I should clarify 1's fight was kino and sovllfull in it's own way.
just retcon GvS2, the only thing people care about in that episode is no limits Superman since besides that it's just a massive downgrade compared to the first
So how does the GvS1&2 retcon change Dragon Ball’s W/L ratio?
Probably yea
If that's true than this shit better be 10 minutes long at minimum
20 minutes long at minimum.
GvS1 was great
GvS2 could have been longer and not a gag match if they didn't suck TFS free advertising cock
What the fuck they mean by badly outdated? Obviously it's not Goku winning
Think DevilArtemis will be handling this animation?
They should save DA for the finale (which now I'm hoping is Galactus vs Unicron).
>inb4 their 'research' means UT Goku would win but he doesn't get it because it's 'outside' help
>inb4 the current SDBH arc has Majin Ozotto transcend the power of UT Goku and Fu and Goku beats him with his own power
I hate Ben so much, he’s always had the worst matchup taste possible
>finale is light vs columbo
Double lol if Goku wins.
>Light VS Columbo
Should have been Harry
Goku could only win if Rick won, thus it's another freebie for superman.
Should be Harry vs Light instead
Maybe swan can do columbo vs Harry instead of light just so he can get it out of his system.
Though, I do worry what his obsession would be after that....
Harry is better in melee and can basically hyper slow time to figure shit out so in an actual fight it probably wouldn't go great for Columbo
I don't think it's going to play out like an actual fight. More like a short film about the police investigation ending with the arrest of Kira followed by his death via Ryuk because he's not going to sit around and wait for his court hearing and execution.
So a glorified fanfic.
Did you really think it's going to be anything else? Also to be fair most of these fights are just fanfics but with violence. This one is just going to be a genuine fan fic animation. Light wouldn't fight, he's actually a coward. He only ever fought L because he underestimated L and was doing it for show to try to play up his innocence.
When ACTUALLY confronted and his worldview shattered you saw what he was really like: just some punk tripping over himself like a sick cornered animal.
I know death battle is all a fanfic, but this is just swan feeding light to columbo. A spite match if you will. There is no genuine debate to be had when it's an astroturfed match and one that is already rigged in the first place. Unless we see a good preview of the fight without a hint of bias or judgement it'll stay that way.
That's literally just what Death Battle is
It's why Harry VS Light works better as it makes more sense for Harry to actually kill him in the animation after a Half Light spergout
>That fucking smug asshole, he's probably laughing at you now on the inside. Look at that cunt stain son of a bitch! He's just begging to be laid out on the floor!
>The jig is up. The fucker knows you've uncovered his true identity!
>Maybe a good bloodletting is in order.
>Kill him. Kill him now!
Half light would cotton onto Kira immediately
>Kim "truly" trusts you.
pretty well written.
I don't get it
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Ten years has been passed and Goku fight against Superman still continue. War... War never changes.
Damn they really hate Torrian huh?
Of course, he was their most talented animator and they're salty that they can't top him.
Oh god I almost forgot Godzilla is fighting superman in 3 hours
It's the same shit again
Elrond vs Gregor Clegane
Who?
>Named Noldor character vs a somewhat above peak human warrior
Elrond takes this 10/10 times.
Gregor rapes this elf
>JOBgor
Couldn't even beat an agile Dornish man with a poisoned spear, Elrond MURDERS this oversized homosexual.
Cope. LOTR is in need of a thorough lore break just like God of War.
>[Delusional GOTfag babble]
SHITgor will get speared right through his plate armor by CHADrond and it won't even take him any effort to do so.
Is that before or after Gregor's sword cuts that old twink in half?
Is that before or after my slow as shit bald jobber gets chopped to pieces by the Elf?
Semi relevant
https://www.deviantart.com/thevenomousarchive/art/DBX-Gimli-vs-Gregor-The-Mountain-Clegane-751978903
FUCK GOKU VS SUPERMAN! This is bitchin'.
Standing here I realize
YOU WERE JUST LIKE ME TRYING TO MAKE HISTORRRYYY
BUT WHO'S TO JUDGE
THE RIGHT FROM WRONG
Will they change the outcome?
>Rewatch the fight.
>The entire time, the doctor doesn’t actually throw any punches or shoots sonic beams at Rick, he just tries to outrun him or disarms him and even the final blow isn’t actually the Doctor shooting the gun but Rick shooting it
Was this the first pacifistic win on Death Battle
As expected, The Doctor solos without even trying.
They even refrain from having him use the gun himself. He reaches for it but stop's short of actually taking it out of the case.
>The Doctor is painted more like a pacifist than god damn Steven Universe in his fight against Star
Lmao
hell he's even hesitant about using the De-Mat gun
even the rules of Death Battle barely apply to the doctor
Its funny as in the end he didn't end up using the thing himself.
>If the Doctor had taken the De-Mat Gun out already, Rick could have just shot him with it instead of having to wait until later. The Doctor’s own moral restraints made it so he was still standing and Rick wasn’t
kino
It kind of makes sense, Steven doesn't completely eclipse Star so he wouldn't have a way of making her kill herself.
Plus Steven did technically kill someone in a blood-lusted state even if he fixed her after.
Good fight, shit research.
They will never top this level of choreography
The Doctor holds back because he detests violence and doesn't want to tamper with fixed points in time.
A Doctor with more standard Death Battle rules would be more than willing to use the multiple dimensional level weapons stored in the tardis which he can access at any and every point in time.
That’s not the discussion, it’s as more about how acknowledging the writing of the actual fight kept in character of the Doctor manipulating events to defeat his enemy rather than shoot them himself
>hesitates to use to the gun
>tricks rick into using it on himself
Great touch.
>Rick tried to flip the script by killing the Doctor with his own De-Mat Gun
>Doctor flips it back by weaponizing the portal from Rick’s own portal gun, which Rick could have done if he wasn’t so focused on killing the Doctor
Reminds me of this comic
Honestly, I want Death Battle to do more pacifist fights like this. I loved how The Doctor acted in that fight.
LET'S SING A SONG!
Wow. By the way, it looks like Rick isn't even the most powerful being in his universe that made by him. Total humiliation of Rick Sanchez on his field.
BRING ME WALLY WEST AND REVERSE FLASH
I want the Madoka movie to hurry up so we can get a clearer view of what Devil Homura and Ultimate Madoka can do. I mean, we could use Mami, Kyoko, and Sayaka in Death Battle, but they'll probably get an upgrade in the movie.
kys listroon. Kurumi will NEVER get onto the show
Who the hell is Kurumi? Also, I'm a guy.
I hope they make Homura suffer an agonizing death that's as drawn out as fucking possible, though I can't imagine a death drawn out enough on this show to make up for how dog shit the ending of Rebellion was.
Even a Saibaman can pee on the strongest version of SHARTperman. I will destroy Death Battle for their blasphemy against Goku.
get some thick skin you sissy
You know I would have Nanoha in Death Battle, but it hasn't been relevant in years, and there's no way Death Battle watched it.
Good match ups for Diana?
I just started reading earth one and now I want to see her in the show again. I don't know too much about capeshit so the only interesting Fight I can think of is WW VS Kalifa (or kaleffa the female Broly that jobbed to ultra instinct Goku) but that shit is also kinda boring.
Diana
Diana
Diana
Diana
me (my penis stomps her)
She would stomp your penis, and you would love it
Nah im more of a mindbreak kind off guy
Just make it a shameless fanservice fight with She-Hulk
But personally, I think Cutie Honey vs Golden Age Wonder Woman could be very interesting.
We need an army battle, I grow tired of 1v1s.
Flood vs Zerg WHEN?
For the longest time I wanted the Zerg to fight the Xenomorphs.
I really fucking hate how I'm imaging Gansta's Paradise over this gif.
I think a gravemind fighting a brother moon would be fun.
Gravemind vs a Hive Mind would be cool. I don't think there's much the Flood can do against a Moon until they get into bookwank reality warping Keymind phase.
Cinemaphile has spent YEARS arguing Flood vs Necromorphs. I wouldn't mind seeing that.
Unless you really wank Flood I feel like Zerg is probably more in their ballpark.
Doesn't the flood use weapons? Don't necromorphs hate specific weapons?
Necros also can use weapons and do actually use guns in DS3, their bodies are just so over tuned for murdering they don't need them 99% of the time.
The fight was decently lame to me in the same way Omnilander was. I get it's a stomp, but I would've liked it if Rick actually had an upper hand at any point rather than just the Doctor messing with him the whole time. His characterization felt off too. Rick is an asshole but they treated him like he was just a Saturday morning villain bragging about how he was going to kill the Doctor the whole time. He'd also never be retarded enough to listen to the guy he's trying to kill on how to deal with the Weeping Angels.
At least the Doctor was handled pretty well.
I’d have preferred the Doctor actually wanting him but Rick blinking a bunch of times anyways like how Evil Morty knew every Rick would do the exact opposite of what they’re told
It would've been more in character for sure. In general the fight ended up meeting my fears of being an excuse to make fun of Rick the whole time, down to giving him one of the worst fates for a loser. If they don't like Rick, they shouldn't have bothered with the matchup if they aren't going to handle him properly.
>noooooooo the drunken, hedonistic scientist based on the guy who played Judge Doom wasn't treated with enough gravitas!
Sure, he can deserve to die however, but I just wish he behaved more in character and had more of a fighting chance. Leave the stomp to the analysis, the fight's job is to be entertaining and fun.
If I'm being honest Rick fucking deserves it
Still not as spiteful as what they did with Sasuke.
I hate Rick and Morty but if you're going to rep it at least try to do it in a way that won't completely piss of its fans.
Then again if the tables were turned we both know those homosexuals would shit up this place.
It bothered me that he just left Morty in the ship. I would've liked if the Doctor used the screwdriver to make the ship take Morty back to Earth on autopilot. I guess in the ending we got, ghost Rick will guide Morty in getting back home.
eh Morty's gonna be fine
I think Morty can just tell the ship to take him back home and it'll do it.
Ghost rick will just build some device in hell that'll bring him back to life since every time he's stuck somewhere with nothing he improvises then he'll probably treat the doctor as another mandatory "RUN MORTY" thing.
Agreed, would have been a lot cooler if
had happened.
I thought the Doctor was going to take in Morty as a companion.
But I guess Morty is better off without another dimension-traveling guy dragging him along adventures.
They should have done this.
Just imagine him trying to arm bar Shin's little baby T-Rex arms.
Biggest problem on the show is the v tuber gag shit. Get that shit removed first, then focus on having a better research team, or at least one without Speedy. Speedy is such a drag for the rest of the team.
I like to think Rick used the Mr Meeseeks to counter the sweeping Angels by forcing them to stare into them forever
It's the same reason why Rebirth Gamera bulldozes Godzilla Ultima.
Turns out being an actual combatant with legitimate feats beats a bunch of theoretical math fluff any day of the week.
If Goku vs Superman can happen three fucking times, I guess Batman is coming back to Death battle for a 5th time.
Go all in for the numbers, baby
Based. Looking forward to Batman vs Kiryu Kazuma next season.
That sounds so fucking bad. Not only do we have
>Batman vs Spider-Man
>Batman vs Cap
>Batman vs Black Panther
>Batman vs Iron Man
but we also have a handful of proxy Batman battles too
>Batgirl vs Spider-Gwen
>Red Hood vs Winter Soldier
>Terry vs Miguel
The bat family is dramatically fucking over represented, and yo know if we get another fucking bat it's going to be a boring, overplayed Marvel vs DC shitfest. Again.
>STANDING HERE I REALIZE YOU JUST LIKE ME TRYING TO MAKE HISTORY
WAH WAH WAH BWAHAHAHA
I'll call this one....is gonna be just a gag fight....not "gag" in the sense of full comedy but just a dumb attempt at being self-aware about "hey, what are we fighting again?" just for the sake of fellowship and to come up as "even despite everything, we all love each other and we are great".....probably a glurgy note.
If Goku loses to Sup third time it will be Gover. He will never recover from that.
He will continue being more popular than Supes, nobody cares about some fanfiction fight. Hell I could write a fic right now where Goku fucks Lois and shits on Clark. Nobody would care.
>nobody cares about some fanfiction fight
Power is everything! On a subconscious level, Goku will look like a weak without a single victory on the scale of the multiverse. Even Frieza wiped the floor with Transformers. And Goku got none victories.
Goku will look weak because a bunch of Superman fanboys said Superman was stronger than him?
At least Beerus scales Superman.
Zeus (Riordan) vs Thor (MCU)
So, this is why they're actually throwing a pre-recorded podcast up. It has nothing to do with Thanksgiving. They knew what the reaction to this would be.
smart move
Has this episode surpassed Omniman vs Homelander as the biggest stomp in Death Battle history?
Quicksilver vs Barry Allen
Spongebob vs Super Friends Aquaman
Thor vs Raiden
Thor vs Raiden was a biggest stomp than Omniman vs Homelander though.
And they were both great episodes.
>Omniman vs Homelander
Who the fuck thought this was a good idea in the first place?
Someone smart
are you retarded?
it gets you views and it succeded on that
deathbattle kinda sucks on a general level though, yall should hit the gym and touch grass fr fr
Omniman vs Homelander is proof that doing thematic and fun fights with satisfying narrative through-lines throughout the fight creates more engagement than trying to pander to vs battle wiki autists that want "le perfectly matched fight".
No, it's proof that marketing works. That shit was advertised by the official Twitter accounts.
>No, it's proof that marketing works. That shit was advertised by the official Twitter accounts.
>vs autist seething
lmao
Not to mention both characters were trendy topic around the time.
This show is just marketing bullcrap. Why do you think the first of the only two non-Marvel DC defeast were against Jinx from League Of Legend? Conveniently at the time the show was peaking and she was in everybody's butthole.
On the other hand, Jinx's episode did not do great.
Following trends doesn't equate success after all.
But you can't tell me they don't move for whatever seems convenient at the time. The "objective ultimate veredict" is bullcrap since it's inception and it will ever be.
Plus comic book fans are the biggest consumers of DB. Most other fandoms either are apathetic, some minority group like them but is also common other fandoms just find them bullcrap.
>Plus comic book fans are the biggest consumers of DB. Most other fandoms either are apathetic, some minority group like them but is also common other fandoms just find them bullcrap.
I always suspected that capeshit readers had lower iq on average than other fan communities.
>This show is just marketing bullcrap. Why do you think the first of the only two non-Marvel DC defeast were against Jinx from League Of Legend? Conveniently at the time the show was peaking and she was in everybody's butthole.
Deathbattle has been a popularity contest since at least a decade except for a fight here and there.
>Deathbattle has been a popularity contest
>Except for when it isn't, then they're being contrarian for views!
Didn't you paid attention?
>has been a popularity contest since at least a decade except for a fight here and there.
Pointing exceptions doesn't mean that's how the average works.
>the average
Prove it.
Yang VS Tifa made just after the RT buying.
Starscream VS Rainbow Dash made along some brony trend when suddenly some idiot suggested a spiteful match.
Batman VS Black Panther coming at the time Blck Panther movie came into theaters more or less.
Tracer VS Scout made around the time the OW VS TF2 were at their worst.
Goku VS Superman 2 done because they were salty after the downvotes the first one had.
>ynr deathrattle made brony fights
Just dump this shit on /trash/ already.
Wait, you mean you're mad because they decide which fights to do based on what characters are relevant and currently being discussed? That's way dumber than what I thought you were arguing.
They downplay Scout greatly in it's match, something everybody and their mother said back then.
Rd only have a couple of episode preparation and only resorted to the Starscream loser misconception (he's an unlucky schmuck but not harmless).
Yang VS Tifa was an obvious case of timing with RT buying, and Black Panther was in 2018 hailed as a "Black Superhero" movie.
Plus virtually all but two Non Marvel DC matchups are taken victorious to the point is a meme, which comes as awkward since RT belongs to warner media.
Plus...I never said about the veredicts being wrong, I'm just saying is just plain marketing tactics. Whatever veredict they get could be influenced by external factors.
>Except for when it isn't, then they're being contrarian for views!
You've spent too much time on this site.
They’ve done some fights with lesser-known vsautist characters over the years, but those often don’t get as many views as the ones with well-known characters.
GOKUSISTERS I DON’T FEEL SO GOOD
El Supermano Platino > Macaco
>Superman has limits
It's over...
But I thought Superman had no limits?!?!?!?
Superbros... I don’t feel so good...
What can goku do against x-ray heat vision lobotomy?
Ultra Instinct is Goku's trump card. UI can match with Beerus.
Ultra instinct is basically Superman's theta state.
You think they might bring the theta state into play given how they like to use obscure super forms?
Not to mention Torqasm Vo can counter UI by giving it false stimulu to react to.
Has Superman ever done that? I'm confident that Superman was acting evil to scare black.
Power scalers don't read comics
>H-He can't blow out Goku's brain!
It's going to be a long weak of Gokek cope.
He actually did remove Black's powers until he got them back. I don't know if he lobotomized anyone else, but the Justice Lords cartoon Superman lobotomized JLU Doomsday.
>Goku losing on martial arts skill
Death Battle, come on, let Goku have something here.
>let Goku have something here
Give Superman all his bullshit tools including omnipotent and omniscient magic "Sword of Superman" if it means migrants will finally stop crying foul.
>Sword of Superman
What the fuck is this?
>Sword of Superman
https://dc.fandom.com/wiki/Sword_of_Superman
He did it in that comic. He didn’t cut it out though, he temporarily deactivated that part of his brain.
>that top panel
Holy shit creepypasta Superman
Black would've been back on the street as he was being hauled away. He would've tested his powers. I think there was even a line right before this scan where he says "how are you not dying? I'm thinking it but I can't feel my powers" THEN superman gives him this line
Translation: Supes is 0.01% weaker than his unlimited self, pls watch the new video!!!
Who would be a good fight
lol this the most forgettable DB character ever
Even Lucifer more memorable.
idk
Didn't Venom beat Knull? This ounch didn't even scratch Superman.
>that comic of venom fucking lois
woo-weee
Ah that's horrible! Where is that even posted?
>BTFO'd by venom of all people
>Married a roasie
>Son turned into a homosexual
Why is Kal El such a colossal FAILURE? His father weeps.
Venomgawd
Baldur (GoW) vs Avengers (MCU)
Baldur (GoW) vs Loki (MCU)
Can't believe Superman is about to lose to Goku. Righting a 10 year wrong.
I did not expect Otto to know this much about fighting.
So, what kind of martial arts training does Superman have?
I know most people off the top of their head Goku is better because he's a martial artist, but I assume most people saying that probably don't know much about Superman.