Ed Piskor is dead.

not with that attitude

Don't bullshit me, women are into that shit.

women don't want to be assaulted by 80% of men. that 20% of top men could punch them in the c**t and piss on their faces and they'd smile and ask for more.

That's just your mother

>If people thought it was immoral they wouldn't want it to be legal, and thus it wouldn't.
Is fricking dogs immoral? It's legal in places, so by your logic so long as one does it in that jurisdiction they are moral but so long as a toe steps out of the land they're immoral?

They can try, what do you want to make it illegal for them to?

I'm about the same age as you then, and agree 100%. It's way different now.

This past week on Cinemaphile there have been 9+ threads, many reaching well over 600+ posts talking about this issue. No one cares about comics or when things are going well or want to spread joy or talk about things. They want to dance on a grave and have their wish now. I'm done with Cinemaphile to be honest.

Lying through your teeth won't redeem you. These threads were mostly insane extrapolations and the schizo OP posting about how Ed Piskor is a serial rapist. You contributed to this. You will be held responsible in the end.

>Wants to frick a 17-year-old (which is legal in Pennsylvania and most other places in the world) who would be physically and mentally no different to an 18-year-old (legal).
>Pedo.
You guys are brainbroken.

People have been just as bad here as they have on twitter. People have been a lynch mob here too. People posting those comics. People making wild speculations. The shit posting, the trolling. Either you've ignored it or not seen it.

nah, nothing here got as bad as directly tagging people or those stupid photo comics.
Shitposting for sure but it's Cinemaphile.

I was here in those threads. It's always the same bullshit because the people on twitter and on instagram were posting here. It's a handful of morons who got anally gaped over some shit Ed Piskor said and made it a life goal to either ruin his career or get the youtube channel taken down.

Why are you so intent on denying that there was a shed load of hate here too?

>There was no organized campaign here like there was elsewhere
At this point you're either in denial or you're a part of it.

>There was no organized campaign here like there was elsewhere. just guys calling someone out. Just trolling in the v
I've posted in 7 out of 8 threads, it became clear OP was a dedicated schizo replying to every post saying piskor should die, sometimes multiple replies.

Uh no, one individual in particular spammed threads about Ed for the past week, hoping to make the guy's life miserable. He's probably happy with himself right now, too.

Your average Cinemaphile poster, sure.
But your average Cinemaphile poster?
Fricking lol.
Most of the zoomers here are obvious twitter crossposters.

>It's 99% dried up
This is why people like Cartoonist Kayfabe. It wasn't perfect but they had that spark of effort that has fricking vanished from all corners of the Internet including here. And that is more than the vast majority ever do.

There was a decent recommendation thread a month or two ago showing Cinemaphile wasn't completely hopeless and we still have storytimes introducing hidden gems Cinemaphilemrades weren't otherwise familiar with like the Amelia Rules one
But yeah, I miss old Cinemaphile

Depends, when are you going back to Europe?
Oh wait, they frick 16 and 17 year olds over there a lot too, so you probably won't want to go there either.

No thanks, I will stay here and take advantage of the free shit, tyvm.

>They're clearly part of society/
Being part of society is irrelevant, because, again, you do not make up all of society, nor do people who think like you.
At best you have the comic industry, an industry that's basically on its death bed, and with good reason.

Considering the age of consent in most states is 16 or 17, yes.

Sorry, I can't take the opinion of a zoomer seriously.

Most would find it inappropriate, but not worthy of death. If you ask most Americans whether or not they would have any sympathy for Jerry Seinfeld killing himself despite him dating a 17 year old, most would say yes. They'd say the same for non-famous people too.

This guy did even less than Jerry Seinfeld btw, read

>Molly Dwyer, who is now 21, released a series of DMs/images on Instagram and alleged Ed was a "groomer" but that he had done nothing physical to her; she had just realised it was inappropriate years later.
>She was 17 at the time and liked a series of Ed's work. Ed messaged her. Many of the comments were taken out of context. Ed did like some of her older photos when she was younger.The age of consent is 16 there and corruption of a minor does not count here. He did nothing illegal and the use of the word groomer is more general definition than legal.
>She received a bunch of backlash and said she didn't want him cancelled and just wanted to warn people about his inappropriate behaviour. She didn't understand the comic culture politics on display. She didn't want to talk to media outlets about it.
>Both sides of the culture war divide came down hard on Ed because they hate him for their own numerous reasons, mostly because he avoided the culture war. Many fans or haters of CK had their own bone to pick with Ed, mostly because they decided a bunch of perceptions on who Ed was.
>Molly Wright (different Molly) then alleged Ed wanted a blowjob in exchange for his agent's number. This turned it into a "multiple women" situation. He denied that in his suicide note and said they engaged in sex twice with her initiating both times. She still remained in contact with him for some time before fizzling out.
>Another woman claimed Ed wanted to draw her naked in exchange for industry help. Ed claims he just wanted to draw her naked because she is hot. They apparently remained in contact for some time too.
>The news doxxed him. His art show was cancelled. No one was coming out to defend or support him. He was facing losing deals too. Cinemaphile had multiple long threads about it. Reddit and other fan accounts turned on him, comparing him to real offenders/criminals in the industry. People claimed a twitter account was his alt, he denied that and it has been proven to not be his alt.

. He basically did nothing that bad.

Teenagers are not peak fertility though, maternal mortality is higher in teens. Also, male sperm degrades as we age, so you're not peak either

Human frontal lobes are not even fully developed by 20. Peak fertility is 25-29.

burger moment

does that mean I can still learn a language past 29

Of course there's no "hard line" but it's true it's not till your 20s the pituitary gland chills out with puberty

>Pregnancy at 23
She's still young enough to be anything but a breeding cow you sick pervert.

Jerry Seinfeld did it, everyone knew about it and no one said everything

Because in the '90s, it was just Christian, right-wing evangelicals trying to censor everything. Now, they're still doing it, but we also have the radical left doing the same thing. Because the political spectrum is a sphere. You can only go around the circle so far before you end up on the other side.

Why do we see more left lean right than right lean left then?

Right-wing grifters virtue signal all the fricking time.

Whine, b***h, complain, beg for attention

They're not grifters if I believe what they're saying!

>society is even more prudish now than the late 90s when pearl clutching was at its peak?
.......huh?
the late 90s, during the peak of nu-metal and the Attitude Era?
i don't remember a single pearl being clutched

Zoomers aren't people.

>joking

>Howard Stern
lmao irrelevant gen x shit why do you keep bringing up the past oldman

Nobody should give a shit what the majority thinks. The majority thinks exactly what they're told to think, by either one side or another.

Do YOU think it's moral for a 40-year-old to hit on a high schooler? Why or why not?

I think it's absolutely fine. I made some dumb choices when I was in high school and emerged stronger for them. There is nothing wrong with a man and a woman having sex and when there's an age gap, it strengthens those bonds because the older party can mentor the younger party, in exchange for sex. Hell, if anything, it's a major boost because the young woman will get to skip the dumb bullshit busywork you get to do at the low end of the totem pole and get to do decent stuff from the get-go. And this is just from a transactional standpoint. If the two people have a genuine connection, what they do is nobody else's damn business.

Prove me wrong homosexual, without appealing to muh emotions.

That's what I thought. You will never be loved and your job has been taken by AIs.

if you're not a TEEN dating another TEEN it is creepy
sorry
age of consent laws from 100 years ago are not only archaic but predatory in nature for pedophiles

Wrong.

>kid is a society simp
kek

ay wey

>Talking to 17/18 year olds is not "immoral"
uh, sweetie. I'm sorry but you talked to that anon. that is clearly immoral

To be fair, women are mentally children their entire lives.

You'd be surprised how many girls are into comics/manga these days.

>And no, a lot of girls aren't into comics.
There's a ton of women making graphic novels and webtoons and the like these days. They're enjoying the medium, it's just not monthly floppies.

Trying to frick teenagers when you're 30+ is immoral anon.

>My point is that you can't groom adults
You can groom adults. If an adult is vulnerable they can be groomed. Of course this is semantics. And I am not talking about this specific example just generally.

>What else would you call it? Sexual manipulation?
Yes, its manipulation.
But obviously that word is too big brain for people to type so they say gaslighting instead.

You're still going about this, you creepy pedo?

One being worse does not stop the other from still being bad lmao. How hard is it to not try and frick a highschooler answer me that

Okay but you're still not realizing the degree of bad he did was still REALLY BAD, once again just because there is worse doesn't mean what he did crosses the line back to being good

that was my first post in this thread. i just think suicide is a tragedy whenever it happens.

He's the one that made that choice

They're both bad you moron lmao

Yes, of course I don't have sympathy for him, he did an incredibly stupid thing and then overreacted in the biggest way possible. He is at worse a sexual creep and at best a complete and utter idiot who killed himself for no reason. You don't do shit like he did as an artist, it's common sense when you're in the public eye. He made the decision to do all those stupid things because he was horny and made the conscious decision to throw his art career away by doing so, why on earth would I feel sympathy for him.

Found the moron

There's some guy samegayging like crazy intent on arguing ITT incase it wasn't obvious from the spamming, don't even bother (but you're right kek).

You're talking to people who think its ok to frick high school girls, they dont care.

It's the only explanation for people missing the point this hard tbh.

Yes? Any artist that relies on internet presence and reputation, including a comic artist, which he was.

Okay, so you really are just a scumbag.

A scumbag because I call a man an idiot for being an idiot? If he valued his career so much he wouldn't have been so stupid, fact is he CHOSE to throw it away because he was horny. He didn't have to be stupid and message inappropriate things to the teenager (automatic career killer that every artist knows will nuke your career whether they are legal or NOT) but he CHOSE to do so. He CHOSE to kill himself for no actual reason as I've explained many times, it's difficult to have sympathy for anyone in this day and age who does stupid shit like this and cries because they realized that the thing that they knew was a stupid thing to do, was a stupid thing to do.

>Fricking 17yo is wrong
Feminism rotted your brain

Samegay, please get a new argument and stop putting words in my mouth. It's a career killer and everyone knows that, please get a grip and stop being so disingenuous and missing the point completely.

Obviously, but I don't understand how that's relevant to the topic at hand.

He didn't even frick her or meet her you dumb moron. He just talked to her on social media 4 years ago and that was it.

I ask you again, AND? What on earth does that have to do with anything I have said? I've been saying the entire time he was an idiot for messaging her stupid shit, it's common sense not to do that and he still did it and he chose to do it all despite knowing what it would mean for him.

Well that's a completely different conversation that you're having with that point. I have my own issues with cancel culture which is a complex and much bigger topic than just this single isolated incident. Again he obviously didn't deserve to die but it wasn't like this was shit from 10 years ago or some shit before everything became insane on social media which I'd be more sympathetic towards. I say this as an artist myself, there are rules you have to follow if you have an online presence and everyone knows them nowadays so he was aware of what would happen. It's what makes it hard for me to have sympathy, he completely brought this upon himself by his own actions when he knew better and was easily avoided on his part.

I greatly regret opening this thread but the gist seems to be
>older guy was thirsty
>clumsily hit on 17 year old fan
>didn't even get far
>several years later
>girl, now 21, decides to tell everyone he tried to groom her
>he decides to kill himself

So, did all his friends and family just instantly turn on him? I think that would drive a lot of people over the edge. Kind of suck if that's the case, I'd like to think the people around me would have my back no matter how badly I fricked up.

No, he was actually in a very good position to eventually recover from this and still had big connections. The fact he chose the nuclear option honestly makes me raise an eyebrow because I've seen people in way worse positions than him get their careers back once things settle down. Makes me wonder if he's done worse and knew there was no coming back from it once it got out or something like that, no other logical reason why he'd overreact in the way he did.

In that sense it's probably the only smallest bit of sympathy I can muster, you do dumb stuff before you get a following and don't realize you're eventually gonna have an audience to answer to.

>no other logical reason why he'd overreact in the way he did.
He was probably severely depressed. Logic kind of goes out the window at that point.

Well sure, but an overreaction like that? He didn't even try to defend himself. He made some vaguely worded letter saying he totally had innocent intentions inviting a teen to crash his house and stay over as if anyone with a brain would believe it and killed himself (because he knew he was peddling bullshit, lets call a spade a spade here). I've witnessed people who actually tried grooming 12 year olds and lost every connection they've ever made hang around for years after the fact waiting for things to die down and never stopped defending themselves the entire time despite being caught red handed (and did eventually come back).
While it could have been stress, he was certainly nowhere near his career being over and had a lot of reassurance from his peers that he still had support. His reaction makes no sense for the reason he's citing he's doing it for, was more my point.

>You don't do that if you're an innocent man
You don't know how scandal works. People do cost benefit analysis and don't care about morality. They cancelled his show and he was losing deals because of the press, not because they actually cared. Imagine if someone said something about you, true or not, and your life imploded? Most people were just looking for an accuse to attack him and didn't care about what he is alleged to have done.

Pretending that how he acted means he is guilty shows how little you understand and is rather disgusting. He basically lost everything over a few days. No one was waiting for his statement. They had all decided he was persona non grata.

>You don't know how scandal works
>Imagine if someone said something about you, true or not, and your life imploded
I have been cancelled myself and even had my own stalkers, I have witnessed peers of mine experience it on massive scales as well. I understand exactly how it works and what I'm saying is true, his behavior is completely abnormal for an innocent person in his situation because I've personally witnessed it many times. I'm just a spectator and not actually accusing him of anything, just I find his behavior weird and suspicious for that reason...

>I'm just a spectator and not actually accusing him of anything
Yes you are accusing him of shit you lying frick:

You have to be a complete moron if you genuinely believe he invited a fricking 17 year old over to his house to crash the night with "no sexual intent". He's 40+ years old, what man in his right mind would do this without understanding how badly that can be construed if it was innocent?
Which it obviously wasn't, again, you'd have to be a complete moron to think he didn't do that with the intent to frick the 17 year old. I have no sympathy for him crying over it affecting his career, your reputation means everything in that industry, you're telling me he didn't understand what it would do to him when it inevitably got out? Fact is he was thinking with his dick and didn't care and that was the choice he made.
That being said he obviously doesn't deserve to die for being a creep, but he's the one who made all these poor decisions including the unnecessary suicide so it's hard to feel sorry for him.
Also sorry but the fact he killed himself so fast. You don't do that if you're an innocent man, if I had to wager a bet it's that he was aware of some other shit that hasn't come out as yet that would make coming back from this impossible and couldn't cope. There was literally no other reason to have such an overreaction in the way he did, I've seen this happen to artists several times in his position and they stick around and eventually people forget (even when they're guilty sometimes kek). The fact he jumped to suicide so quickly was not from "cyberbullying" or whatever bullshit he was spouting. All he had to do was lay low for a while and let things blow over then use his connections to get work again like what everyone else in his shoes has done.

>You don't do that if you're an innocent man, if I had to wager a bet it's that he was aware of some other shit that hasn't come out as yet that would make coming back from this impossible and couldn't cope.
This is an accusation.

One day this shit will come for you.

The issue is that anon is accusing Ed of shit based on pure speculation whilst also claiming to not be accusing him.
>well Ed's actions mean he is probably guilty of something worse
Is nothing but pure speculation. Because that anon thinks he knows how all people act.

He didn't even frick her or meet her you dumb moron. He just talked to her on social media 4 years ago and that was it.

>inappropriate
You have never talked to women.

I'm not acting like someone killed him. I'm acting like
[...]
17 isn't pedophile, and yes the distinction actually matters here.
[...]
>I literally said he didn't deserve to die and your post had nothing to do with my original post.
Sure, but you also said it's hard to feel sympathy for him.

You arent giving any reasons why a pedophile killing himself is a bad thing. You're just being emotional.

Have fun being unable to articulate why a pedo killing himself is a bad thing while seething in these threads.

This is true. I apologize, I’m tired. I get emotional when I’m sleepy. I will go to bed now. Goodbye.

Thats fine, goodnight and dont have a nice day!

>a pedo killing himself is a bad thing because anybody killing themselves is a bad thing
Nah bad people killing themselves is based. Look at Hitler.

Goodnight, sweet dreams.

He doesn't care. It's all culture war shit to him.

You sound like trash.

bait

>I don't engage in culture war crap
LMAO

Hey, what's the difference between Ed Piskor and the baby in my microwave?

The difference is that the baby is alive (for now)

The people pushing GG2 are conservative grifters, not twitter trannies. Sowwy bwo.

>t. Someone who fell for gamergate

This.

Left-leaning wants to have GG2 to downplay the problems and cause everyone to support in panic of the GG crowd coming back

Right-leaning wants to have GG2 to have more things to write about for Youtube and get those clicks because otherwise they don't get views and money

>Please follow your hero
you dont get to say this to people

Bad behavior is only bad if it's somebody else doing it.

Hey, I'm not the one getting replaced by AI. You are.