Ed Piskor is dead.

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  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    this is kinda fricked up for an april fool's joke

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    That's right! Dead set on fricking minors!

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Ed Piskor dead(?)
      No(,) more Piskor threads(!)

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Comicgaters and leftoid cancel cretins once again proving that horseshoe theory is horseshoe fact.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        So you're implying "sensible centrist" are okay with pedos? That's not the win you think it is.

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Stop spamming this shit April fools joke this is the 5th or so thread you made on this

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Its not an april fools joke anon, he's actually dead

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Frick you.

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I don't know who that is

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous Mogul

    >le abril bools

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    So a pedophile killed himself, who cares?

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    who?

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    rip lil homie

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Who?

  10. 2 months ago
    Anonymous Mogul

    >killing yourself over false allegations
    lmao

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Means that they weren’t false.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        That’s some weird logic you’re using.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Pedo kills himself after getting exposed. Not exactly a new story.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Bro, your life is fricked if a woman decided one day she didn't like you enough to accuse sexual harrasement.
            Why do you think MeToo# fricked up work culture for sexes, men are fricking afraid to be around women they rather frick fembois.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              >men are fricking afraid to be around women they rather frick fembois.
              No, I'd rather jerk off to solo fictional women. Why do you freaks project your fetish on everyone else?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                You can't frick pixels, Goku.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                not with that attitude

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              >men are afraid to be around women least they are accused of sexual assault
              Funny. Women are afraid to work with men for fear of being sexually assaulted

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Don't bullshit me, women are into that shit.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                I imagine so, when every one of their female friends and people on social media telling them to avoid men at work or risk getting sexually assaulted.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                women don't want to be assaulted by 80% of men. that 20% of top men could punch them in the c**t and piss on their faces and they'd smile and ask for more.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Women fantasize about being raped and being pursued by older men.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                That's just your mother

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                This is a cope men tell themselves
                > this rape didn't happen
                >but if it did happen she probably secretly wanted it

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        It means his family now has reason to pursue legal action. In some states this could even constitute manslaughter

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      NOOOOOOOO THE WOKE MOB BULLIED HIM INTO IT

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Wouldn't be the first time.
      His death is probably the reason zoey hasn't tried this shit for a third time.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        That suicide is why this current round of shit is going so poorly for them. Too many people learned their lesson about unconditionally supporting ideologues with consulting companies and connections to Big Tech and the fricking Feds. They destroyed Alex Holowka so quickly that people didn't even have a chance to form an opinion and word got out quickly that Zoe and co were totally full of shit. He was already dead by then, no thanks to Alec's own sister who is unironically connected to the funding network that created Sweet Baby. She threw her own brother face first into the woodchipper over some homosexualy consulting company grift. Fricking vile.

      • 2 months ago
        Fledgling Investor

        Such a tragic death.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      even false allegations ruins your life after the fact anon
      faceless corporations are not beholding to apologizing or recouping lost work and visibility
      that is why swift actions need to be taken against false accusers just as quickly

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        REAL allegations don't even ruin mens lives (See Chris Brown, or Brian Peck even) let alone actual false ones

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Chris Brown got away with it because most of his audience is black and thus either doesn't really give a frick about domestic abuse, or ascribes to the "talk shit, get hit" philosophy, and you can bet your ass Rihanna was talking some major shit to get the absolute shit beat out of her like that.

          • 2 months ago
            Boco

            Man, Rihanna was never the same after that...and not for the better.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Big titty Taff? Yeah, I would draw you naked all day and never apologize for wanting to. I like drawing breasts and tattoos when I’m not drawing comics.
          Ed was right

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Would.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          He got away with it because most black men are sexist and racist. Go figure?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Most black men know that sometimes you need to smack some sense into someone who's writing some checks with their mouth that their fists can't cash.
            Sometimes that person just happens to be a woman.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              >Most black men know that sometimes you need to smack some sense into someone who's writing some checks with their mouth that their fists can't cash.
              >Sometimes that person just happens to be a woman.
              Most black men also have the experience of growing up in a dysfunctional matriarchy created and maintained by the state. The rest of of you are catching up, though

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      You really think anyone was gonna believe him even if he proved he was innocent? The man's entire life ended when that dumb b***h decided to post her rambling about him.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      The allegations are plastered everywhere, the retractions nowhere, your life and reputation are ruined, and even if you are vindicated, everyone looks at you different.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      He killed himself because in the course of a week his entire career evaporated and the fricking news doxxed his family.

  11. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    A few friends of mine tried getting me into the Cartoonist Kayfabe series last year, and after only watching one episode, I was put off by the vibes Ed put out. He just seemed like so many crazy, creepy, and self-destructive people I knew that I couldn't enjoy it. While it really does suck that he did it, I can't say I didn't see it coming.

  12. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Anybody have a link to his suicide note?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      https://docs.google.com/document/d/10F__3KMESejEU42ep9zwjJQbnTI4aPXb1IuG_iyBepE/preview

  13. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    No idea who this guy is or if he was innocent, but some of the stuff in his suicide note is pretty awful and has truth to it:
    >We’re not built to have hundreds (maybe a few thousand?) people judging and/or harassing us at once. A private and solitary mind can’t take it.
    >There were so many out there waiting in the wings for something like this to emerge. Daryl Ayo Braithwait called it a kill shot. You all got your wish. You were waiting for something to blow out of proportion and it got served to you on a silver platter. Ramon Villalobos, Cam Del Rosario, JB Roe, Molly Wright, congratulations. You got your pound of flesh. Evan Dorkin, I hope skeletons from your closet get revealed someday. Alex DeCampi, may you continue to have zero success no matter how hard you continuously leverage other people’s business from your bully pulpit
    >I was murdered by Internet bullies. Massive amounts of them. Some of you out there absolutely contributed to my death as you were entertaining yourself with gossip. I wasn’t AI. I was a real human being. You chipped little bits of my self esteem away all week until I was vaporized
    >I’m sorry for the hurt it’ll cause my family and closest buds. I hope it makes people think twice when joining an internet feeding frenzy.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Not really most of that stuff just sounds bitter and jilted, a real nothing burger

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Evan Dorkin, I hope skeletons from your closet get revealed
      Bets on what he did?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Used Ed as a patsy?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Gave his wife the cancer

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Nothing lol

        She's been backpedaling and saying she's 21 now and that he never harmed her

        That's not backpedaling that's called the passage of time dipshit, she was 17 when it happened

        [...]
        [...]
        How old is 17 really?

        Piskor was cringe in that situation but he wasn't a pedo

        colloquially pedo not academically if you want to be specific, just like how hebephiles get butthurt if you call them pedos. In short if you're an adult don't try to frick teens

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >That's not backpedaling that's called the passage of time dipshit, she was 17 when it happened
          You DO know she started these accusations just like last week, right? She didn’t say this shit when she was 17 and now that she’s older and wiser realizes it wasn’t anything to make a big deal out of.
          >people are sensitive about being called pedos and don’t want that label especially they aren’t one
          Boy who’da fricking thought, idiot

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >especially they aren’t one
            Yeah they are lmao get fricked

            Considering the age of consent in most states is 16 or 17, yes.

            Once again for the morons, legal=/=moral

            Most would find it inappropriate, but not worthy of death. If you ask most Americans whether or not they would have any sympathy for Jerry Seinfeld killing himself despite him dating a 17 year old, most would say yes. They'd say the same for non-famous people too.

            This guy did even less than Jerry Seinfeld btw, read [...]. He basically did nothing that bad.

            The point was never about death lmao it's about is it moral not about the punishment

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              It's also not grooming.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              >Once again for the morons, legal=/=moral
              If people thought it was immoral they wouldn't want it to be legal, and thus it wouldn't.
              Are you moronic or something?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >If people thought it was immoral they wouldn't want it to be legal, and thus it wouldn't.
                Is fricking dogs immoral? It's legal in places, so by your logic so long as one does it in that jurisdiction they are moral but so long as a toe steps out of the land they're immoral?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Is fricking dogs immoral?
                Is eating cow shit immoral?
                Is worshiping a man who married a 6 year old immoral?
                This is what I meant when I said you don't seem to understand that your morals are not universal.
                If bestiality is legal in an area, then clearly the people who live there don't consider it enough of a moral outrage to have it criminalized.

            • 2 months ago
              guy

              There's no basis for the "over 18" rule besides legal and social convention. Many people throughout the ages have married happily below it.
              >Yeah they are
              Pedophilia is an act against someone incapable of the sexual act. "Get fricked" is an expression of both a gooner looking to score cheap dominance as well as someone who only cares about being on the side of the masses.

              And Nimrod is actually a great hunter and moron is medical term, we get it people aren't using pedo in a hyperspecific way and are being more general about it, point is don't try to frick highs schoolers if you don't want people calling you a pedo

              All you care about is social approval and fitting in, the right thing to do is care about the clear-minded truth. You have a death on your conscience to grapple against your sodomy and fornicative practices, like others before it.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              >Once again for the morons, legal=/=moral
              So dipshits like you and the other idiots on Twitter have the ability to appoint yourself the moral police? Are you gonna try to cancel Leo DiCapprio next, I mean gosh when he was in his 30s his current gf would’ve only been like five, what a pedo amirite?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                They can try, what do you want to make it illegal for them to?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >what, should it be illegal to accuse someone of being a pedo, harass them with that accusation for days on end until they kill themselves?
                I mean…yes?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        The Eltinville Club was actually a lot of projection from him.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        successfully frick art hoes

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          That's a faith worse than death.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Assume every guy in comics has hit on, flirted with or tried to frick a high school age girl at some point.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        He dared to suggest Ed was an butthole.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Fricked teen art hoes

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Imagine it written as
        >I hope there are skeletons in your closet, and when they are revealed you will know what I went through

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Lol how is cyberbullying real lol just put down the phone lmao
      unironically though, just fricking delete social media at that point

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        He was losing art deals and friends left and right. It was more than just social media.

        She's been backpedaling and saying she's 21 now and that he never harmed her

        She mentioned that stuff days ago. She isn't just backpedalling now.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I'm so glad I'm too autistic to make friends with people online.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >when it's easier to have a nice day instead of logging off

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        He was losing comic deals, an art show and was being abandoned by everyone.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Literally just log off and get a different job for a few years. It sucks, but sometimes you gotta do it.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah like you might have to just create stuff for yourself/drawer but if it’s good enough for Emily Dickinson.

            This whole thing is so fricked

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Literally just change your career of 20 years
            so easy

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              better than being dead.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              It's not easy. Or fair.
              But it's what you do when you're not a coward.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              He can always get hired by mcdonalds

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Literally just log off and get a different job for a few years.
            I work with 20 year olds who can't handle a regular job, imagine someone who has done their dream job for over two decades.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >>I was murdered by Internet bullies.
      A 40 year old man thought writing this was deep and powerful.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I doubt he was trying to be poetic. You're not exactly in a great state of mind when writing a suicide note, so you shouldn't expect it to be great writing.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Oh but he was. His entire suicide note reeks of drama prostitute and self importance. There;'s nothing more pathetic than writing a suicide note said "you killed me" instead of owning up to the fact that you did it by yourself. Weak mind, weak body, fragile ego.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Weak mind, weak body, fragile ego.
            Wrong board

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              What?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            You really underestimate how hard it is to have a nice day unless your IQ is -2

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Ed was never the brightest tool in the shed.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >deconstructing and criticizing a suicide note

            Look in the mirror hypocritical dickhead, you're doing everything you accuse Piskor of.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Why the frick does anyone come here anymore? At least Ed cared about comics. You drama prostitutes want to criticise his suicide note now. This place offers nothing at all. One minute you homosexuals will pearl clutch over something. The next minute you'll be ghoulish c**ts.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Yeah. It's depressing as frick reading shit online these days. So many genuine sociopaths. The internet has always had buttholes of course, but more people seem more fricked in the head than before. Way more people are genuinely radicalized and hateful.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >The internet has always had buttholes of course
                I was a teen by the time the internet became really popular. all the butthole stuff always seemed more like a joke
                and even people saying crazy shit just seems like an act to get a raise out of people
                now it seems like legit mental patients posting

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                I'm about the same age as you then, and agree 100%. It's way different now.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                I've been coming to this site for nearly 20 years. Any edginess in the past was just to get a rise out of people. The people that post here today seem to legitimately be psychopaths that enjoy pissing on everyone's grave.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                This past week on Cinemaphile there have been 9+ threads, many reaching well over 600+ posts talking about this issue. No one cares about comics or when things are going well or want to spread joy or talk about things. They want to dance on a grave and have their wish now. I'm done with Cinemaphile to be honest.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                the threads have hardly been lynch mobs. mostly speculation, a few people calling him out for being a creep, no one called for his arrest or head on a platter.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Lying through your teeth won't redeem you. These threads were mostly insane extrapolations and the schizo OP posting about how Ed Piskor is a serial rapist. You contributed to this. You will be held responsible in the end.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Pedo Ed is getting his right now.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Wants to frick a 17-year-old (which is legal in Pennsylvania and most other places in the world) who would be physically and mentally no different to an 18-year-old (legal).
                >Pedo.
                You guys are brainbroken.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >You guys are brainbroken.
                They're using irony, dipshit. If you don't see anything inappropriate in the DMs, you may as well be a pedo

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                People have been just as bad here as they have on twitter. People have been a lynch mob here too. People posting those comics. People making wild speculations. The shit posting, the trolling. Either you've ignored it or not seen it.

                nah, nothing here got as bad as directly tagging people or those stupid photo comics.
                Shitposting for sure but it's Cinemaphile.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                You didn't see it then. Because it got fricking bad here too.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                I was here in those threads. It's always the same bullshit because the people on twitter and on instagram were posting here. It's a handful of morons who got anally gaped over some shit Ed Piskor said and made it a life goal to either ruin his career or get the youtube channel taken down.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                At the same time people here went out their way to archive videos.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Why are you so intent on denying that there was a shed load of hate here too?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Of course there was hate. But it's a drop in the bucket compared to everywhere else. There was no organized campaign here like there was elsewhere. just guys calling someone out. Just trolling in the void.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >There was no organized campaign here like there was elsewhere
                At this point you're either in denial or you're a part of it.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Anon seriously, you weren't in those threads. It was not a "drop". And acting like people don't post on other sites from here is again, your own ignorance. You're just plain wrong and I don't understand why you're so intent on acting like this. I don't want to troll but I think this poster is right:

                >There was no organized campaign here like there was elsewhere
                At this point you're either in denial or you're a part of it.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >There was no organized campaign here like there was elsewhere. just guys calling someone out. Just trolling in the v
                I've posted in 7 out of 8 threads, it became clear OP was a dedicated schizo replying to every post saying piskor should die, sometimes multiple replies.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                People have been just as bad here as they have on twitter. People have been a lynch mob here too. People posting those comics. People making wild speculations. The shit posting, the trolling. Either you've ignored it or not seen it.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Uh no, one individual in particular spammed threads about Ed for the past week, hoping to make the guy's life miserable. He's probably happy with himself right now, too.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                I don't your average Cinemaphile posters goes out of their way to post outside of Cinemaphile.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Your average Cinemaphile poster, sure.
                But your average Cinemaphile poster?
                Fricking lol.
                Most of the zoomers here are obvious twitter crossposters.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Cinemaphile at this point is just a twitter colony, so most of the people here just act like twitter morons.
              And honestly, all places dedicated to the discussion of western media are like this now.
              Everyone is catty, constantly waiting to take down some other creator, lots of annoying zoomer homosexuals with their annoying histrionics.
              It's just embarrassing.
              I think most of the zoomers into anime being third/second worlders gives them more perspective so they're less likely to care about all this stupid drama bullshit like their white counterparts since for a third worlder, drama would be someone getting murdered or dying in a flood or a tsunami, not some dude texting a 17 year old.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Cinemaphile at this point is just a twitter colony, so most of the people here just act like twitter morons.
              And honestly, all places dedicated to the discussion of western media are like this now.
              Everyone is catty, constantly waiting to take down some other creator, lots of annoying zoomer homosexuals with their annoying histrionics.
              It's just embarrassing.
              I think most of the zoomers into anime being third/second worlders gives them more perspective so they're less likely to care about all this stupid drama bullshit like their white counterparts since for a third worlder, drama would be someone getting murdered or dying in a flood or a tsunami, not some dude texting a 17 year old.

              I came for Cinemaphile for basic discussion on cartoons but I stayed for the creativity and passion people had for comics and cartoons
              It's where I would find new fan-favorites I wouldn't have known anywhere else
              Hell, Cinemaphile helped me get into comics period
              It's 99% dried up and occasionally you can find an oasis of quality (admittedly, that's partially because of me) but other than that, old Cinemaphile is practically dead

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                *oasis of quality and people trying to encourage people to like comics and cartoons rather than being miserable about them

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >It's 99% dried up
                This is why people like Cartoonist Kayfabe. It wasn't perfect but they had that spark of effort that has fricking vanished from all corners of the Internet including here. And that is more than the vast majority ever do.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                The only good threads were the old /shelf/ threads because people would actually discuss comics, old and new. Outside of that the catalog is legit one of the worst on the site. Cinemaphile might be the only one worse.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                There was a decent recommendation thread a month or two ago showing Cinemaphile wasn't completely hopeless and we still have storytimes introducing hidden gems Cinemaphilemrades weren't otherwise familiar with like the Amelia Rules one
                But yeah, I miss old Cinemaphile

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              to laugh at 40 year olds who try to bang 17 year olds and then cry about it like they're a victim and kill themselves
              what a fricking pussy

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >There;'s nothing more pathetic than writing a suicide note said "you killed me"
            Yes there is: being a try-hard critic of someone's last words.

      • 2 months ago
        Aspiring Investor

        humans live and die as social creatures. look at the effects of solitary confinement and tell me that your social life being ruined is not a death sentence

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Not if I had millions of dollars, no.

    • 2 months ago
      DoctorGreen

      >We’re not built to have hundreds (maybe a few thousand?) people judging and/or harassing us at once. A private and solitary mind can’t take it.
      We're not built to be Urbanites. Period.
      Any mental disease can find its source in the Urbana

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >We're not built to be Urbanites. Period.
        Yes we are

        • 2 months ago
          DoctorGreen

          >Yes we are
          Oh I guess I was wrong. Thanks for everything, Government hand

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I say this not as an edge lord. What a fricking gay. I feel nothing for people who commit suicide other than contempt. Frick anyone that leaves other people to
      find them and leaves them with the emotional weight of what you leave behind. If anyone in this thread is feeling suicidal get help, don’t be a moron.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        At the very least, the people who think they're helping their family when they do it are mentally unstable and actually trying to do good, even if they're wrong.

        People who do it out of spite are just bizarre.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      a bloo bloo bloo

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >>We’re not built to have hundreds (maybe a few thousand?) people judging and/or harassing us at once. A private and solitary mind can’t take it.
      i avoid this by not being a pedo
      were so many out there waiting in the wings for something like this to emerge. You were waiting for something to blow out of proportion and it got served to you on a silver platter.
      really telling on himself here. "Everybody said I was a creep and they were just waiting for something like this to happen!"
      >>I was murdered by Internet bullies. Massive amounts of them. Some of you out there absolutely contributed to my death as you were entertaining yourself with gossip.
      nah you were murdered by yourself. and you were bullied because of your own actions.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        He wasn't a pedo:
        >

        >Molly Dwyer, who is now 21, released a series of DMs/images on Instagram and alleged Ed was a "groomer" but that he had done nothing physical to her; she had just realised it was inappropriate years later.


        >She was 17 at the time and liked a series of Ed's work. Ed messaged her. Many of the comments were taken out of context. Ed did like some of her older photos when she was younger.The age of consent is 16 there and corruption of a minor does not count here. He did nothing illegal and the use of the word groomer is more general definition than legal.
        >She received a bunch of backlash and said she didn't want him cancelled and just wanted to warn people about his inappropriate behaviour. She didn't understand the comic culture politics on display. She didn't want to talk to media outlets about it.
        >Both sides of the culture war divide came down hard on Ed because they hate him for their own numerous reasons, mostly because he avoided the culture war. Many fans or haters of CK had their own bone to pick with Ed, mostly because they decided a bunch of perceptions on who Ed was.
        >Molly Wright (different Molly) then alleged Ed wanted a blowjob in exchange for his agent's number. This turned it into a "multiple women" situation. He denied that in his suicide note and said they engaged in sex twice with her initiating both times. She still remained in contact with him for some time before fizzling out.
        >Another woman claimed Ed wanted to draw her naked in exchange for industry help. Ed claims he just wanted to draw her naked because she is hot. They apparently remained in contact for some time too.
        >The news doxxed him. His art show was cancelled. No one was coming out to defend or support him. He was facing losing deals too. Cinemaphile had multiple long threads about it. Reddit and other fan accounts turned on him, comparing him to real offenders/criminals in the industry. People claimed a twitter account was his alt, he denied that and it has been proven to not be his alt.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          oh sorry, an ephebophile

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >i avoid this by not being a pedo

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          i guess you can wait and look for me in the news then

  14. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Man, the comic industry sure is constantly full of this kind of moronic drama.
    No wonder it's on its death bed.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Every single industry is like this, especially in regards to entertainment.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Nah, the comics industry is worse since it's already so insular and insignificant.

  15. 2 months ago
    Anonymous Mogul

    >using social media
    >interacting with women
    not even once

  16. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Who?

  17. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Makes me glad I quit cold approaching women. Male sexuality is our greatest weakness. There but for the grace of God go I.

    I wish nothing but peace for every sexually frustrated male out there with a weird fetish, emotional dependency, or mommy issues. Actual pedos deserve the rope, though.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Actual pedos deserve the rope, though.

      The problem with this mentality is that the more people creative panic over pedos, the more overprotective people get about kids, and the more innocent people get lumped in with that lot.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >pedophile kills himself
        Why is this a bad thing

        https://twitter.com/C0SMlCFLAME

        How old is 17 really?

        Piskor was cringe in that situation but he wasn't a pedo

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          She's been backpedaling and saying she's 21 now and that he never harmed her

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Frickin' roasties disgust me

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Hope this b***h lives with knowing she got a man killed for the rest of her life.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              She'll forget about it by next week

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous Magnate

            Every time.
            Women.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah but ephebophile doesn't have the same punch as pedo. Predator is correct though but too general

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I wouldn't say sex pests are innocent

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >he will be running around shouting "I am the night"
      not really, when I discovered Batman, i found out "gotham" is just another way of saying "goddamn" and got my ass beat every fricking day for a year over that shit
      even captcha knows i got my asss handed to me

  18. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    https://twitter.com/C0SMlCFLAME

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Who?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Could've just been honest about not having sympathy

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Not your personal army

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        ok zee

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >SHE WAS 17 YEARS OLD AND 364 DAYS YOU SICK FRICK

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >pedo
      But the BPD art ho who started the whole thing by calling him a creepy groomer pedo now says he didn't do anything. Tee hee, whoopsie!

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        She said that days ago anon. Well before this.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Things have been going fast these last few days and it's quite unfortunate that he couldn't endure, but we aren't in his shoes and it's sad to know that our colleagues and friends will gladly throw us under the Truck-kun to spare their little comfort.

          >homies unironically defending fricking teenagers
          wtf guys i thought we were only pedos ironically or just horny for cartoons

          He was a thirsty moron but if they didn't even met nor did they exchange pics, it's a nothing burger.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I can not WAIT for this literal who to be exposed for having terabytes of cheese pizza on his computer.

  19. 2 months ago
    Anonymous Mogul

    Pretty ironic date to die not gonna lie.

  20. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    give me a quick rundown

  21. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >pedophile kills himself
    Why is this a bad thing

  22. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    test

  23. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >male suicide
    Do you think he had le panic attack first?

  24. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    https://twitter.com/Mort1984483p/status/1774883682991354249

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Eh, this is a low intelligent take. He was losing money, future deals, and friends.
      But it’s cute that internet nobodies think that they matter that much

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous Mogul

        The guy made the account just to tweet that. Cringe as frick.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          It wasn't just to tweet that, he was shitting on Ed the entire week and then scrubbed most of his tweets and replies today

  25. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Cinemaphile is crying about cyberbullying
    Has this ever happened when the suicide victim wasnt a pedo?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous Mogul

      newbie post.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        If you dont know the answer you dont have to reply.

  26. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Last thread got pruned or deleted
    Y'all ready for the censorship of this?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >THE WOKE LEFT IS TRYING TO BURY THIS STORY DEEPER THAN ED PISKOR'S COFFIN

  27. 2 months ago
    Anonymous
  28. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    So wait, this was all because he chatted up some 17 year old?
    Shit, that's legal in my state, white people cancel each other over the dumbest shit.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      You merely think it's legal, Raj.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        No, I know it's legal, because I live in Massachusetts.
        Also, I'm black.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      legal here too

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        You merely think it's legal, Raj.

        So wait, this was all because he chatted up some 17 year old?
        Shit, that's legal in my state, white people cancel each other over the dumbest shit.

        You do realize laws aren't the arbiters of morality right? It can be legal to chat up a 17 year old while still being immoral and societally shamed, or for example is dogfricking suddenly perfectly okay if it's done in a place where it's legal and you won't think negatively of said dogfricker?

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >It can be legal to chat up a 17 year old while still being immoral and societally shamed
          And it's not considered immoral or societally shamed by anyone except white people, so why should I care?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >so why should I care?
            You personally don't have to no one gives a frick what you think you aren't society

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Thankfully I am, since I'm part of the ~89% of the planet that's not white, while you are part of the 11% that is.
              If anyone isn't representative of society, it's YOU.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                So... when you going back to Africa?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Depends, when are you going back to Europe?
                Oh wait, they frick 16 and 17 year olds over there a lot too, so you probably won't want to go there either.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                I am in Europe, my guy. Born and raised here. You don't like it in the west, so just leave.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                No thanks, I will stay here and take advantage of the free shit, tyvm.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Morality is subjective.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Yes and? Don't try to frick teens

            Thankfully I am, since I'm part of the ~89% of the planet that's not white, while you are part of the 11% that is.
            If anyone isn't representative of society, it's YOU.

            I don't care what you think about in Uganda or whatever shithole you're from.

            Sorry if I don't take morality advice from the same people that think foisting their troony fetish on the minds of young children is morally just.

            Okay then why give a frick about the legality of it either if that's the case? It's not a strong argument

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Back to twitter Zee

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              > I don't care what you think about in Uganda or whatever shithole you're from.

              What the frick. This is insanely racist. And you’re telling me you’re the arbiter of what is morally wrong or right? I should listen to you?
              No thank you..

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Sorry if I don't take morality advice from the same people that think foisting their troony fetish on the minds of young children is morally just.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Just so you know, all those people that are actually fighting against trans shit in schools, unlike you, the doork that just posts about it on Cinemaphile, would also crucify your boi Eddy P(edophile).

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >immoral
          The toasty roastie copesie.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >"SHE WAS 17 YEARS AND 364 DAYS OLD YOU SICK FRICK"
          How the frick do people like you live this?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            How is what you said relevant when you're clinging so hard to legality

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Because you don't seem to realize that your morals aren't universal.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >your morals aren't universal.
                Okay and? They're clearly part of society/

                Talking to 17/18 year olds is not "immoral", stop infantilizing these people.

                You're right talking isn't wrong, flirting however is wrong you moron

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >They're clearly part of society/
                Being part of society is irrelevant, because, again, you do not make up all of society, nor do people who think like you.
                At best you have the comic industry, an industry that's basically on its death bed, and with good reason.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                So you're telling me if America was asked the question "Is it moral for a 40 year old to hit on a high schooler" you're telling me the majority would say "yeah it's okay"

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Considering the age of consent in most states is 16 or 17, yes.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                if you're not a TEEN dating another TEEN it is creepy
                sorry
                age of consent laws from 100 years ago are not only archaic but predatory in nature for pedophiles

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Sorry, I can't take the opinion of a zoomer seriously.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah I'm sure all of those people you ask are perfect and have never done something immoral.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Most would find it inappropriate, but not worthy of death. If you ask most Americans whether or not they would have any sympathy for Jerry Seinfeld killing himself despite him dating a 17 year old, most would say yes. They'd say the same for non-famous people too.

                This guy did even less than Jerry Seinfeld btw, read

                >Molly Dwyer, who is now 21, released a series of DMs/images on Instagram and alleged Ed was a "groomer" but that he had done nothing physical to her; she had just realised it was inappropriate years later.
                >She was 17 at the time and liked a series of Ed's work. Ed messaged her. Many of the comments were taken out of context. Ed did like some of her older photos when she was younger.The age of consent is 16 there and corruption of a minor does not count here. He did nothing illegal and the use of the word groomer is more general definition than legal.
                >She received a bunch of backlash and said she didn't want him cancelled and just wanted to warn people about his inappropriate behaviour. She didn't understand the comic culture politics on display. She didn't want to talk to media outlets about it.
                >Both sides of the culture war divide came down hard on Ed because they hate him for their own numerous reasons, mostly because he avoided the culture war. Many fans or haters of CK had their own bone to pick with Ed, mostly because they decided a bunch of perceptions on who Ed was.
                >Molly Wright (different Molly) then alleged Ed wanted a blowjob in exchange for his agent's number. This turned it into a "multiple women" situation. He denied that in his suicide note and said they engaged in sex twice with her initiating both times. She still remained in contact with him for some time before fizzling out.
                >Another woman claimed Ed wanted to draw her naked in exchange for industry help. Ed claims he just wanted to draw her naked because she is hot. They apparently remained in contact for some time too.
                >The news doxxed him. His art show was cancelled. No one was coming out to defend or support him. He was facing losing deals too. Cinemaphile had multiple long threads about it. Reddit and other fan accounts turned on him, comparing him to real offenders/criminals in the industry. People claimed a twitter account was his alt, he denied that and it has been proven to not be his alt.

                . He basically did nothing that bad.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                It's natural for a high test man to hit on a female in peak fertility.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Teenagers are not peak fertility though, maternal mortality is higher in teens. Also, male sperm degrades as we age, so you're not peak either

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Teenagers are not peak fertility though
                17-20 is literally peak fertility for most women.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Human frontal lobes are not even fully developed by 20. Peak fertility is 25-29.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Brain development has nothing to do with fertility.
                Take the zoomer talking points back to Twitter.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                burger moment

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                https://slate.com/technology/2022/11/brain-development-25-year-old-mature-myth.html

                The whole "brain only finishes developing at 25" thing is bullshit that comes from basically one or two shoddily done studies and the reality is that there actually is no hard line for maturity and shit and the brain never stops developing.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                does that mean I can still learn a language past 29

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah, man, there's that old c**t polyglot on YouTube who's still learning them to this day, I can't remember his name but you'd be able to find him easily if you just search some shit like "old polyglot".

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Of course there's no "hard line" but it's true it's not till your 20s the pituitary gland chills out with puberty

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                No it isn't lmao
                >peak fertility at 22, ideal first pregnancy age at 23,

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Pregnancy at 23
                She's still young enough to be anything but a breeding cow you sick pervert.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                they literally did an entire movie about how the average american cant stop fricking high schoolers (american beauty) that won an oscar and then the lead turned out to also not be able to stop fricking high schoolers

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Jerry Seinfeld did it, everyone knew about it and no one said everything

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Isn't it crazy how society is even more prudish now than the late 90s when pearl clutching was at its peak?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Because in the '90s, it was just Christian, right-wing evangelicals trying to censor everything. Now, they're still doing it, but we also have the radical left doing the same thing. Because the political spectrum is a sphere. You can only go around the circle so far before you end up on the other side.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                It's called the horseshoe theory. The far left and the far right are one in the same.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Why do we see more left lean right than right lean left then?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >than right lean left then?
                But the right does lean left, see their protectionist economics and other moronic populist rhetoric

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Right-wing grifters virtue signal all the fricking time.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                What left things do the right do?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Whine, b***h, complain, beg for attention

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Pro troony/gay as long as have an R in front of their name.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                They're not grifters if I believe what they're saying!

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Horeshoe theory is more:
                >left wing extremists and right wing extremists begin to share policies of authoritarianism or totalitarianism

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >society is even more prudish now than the late 90s when pearl clutching was at its peak?
                .......huh?
                the late 90s, during the peak of nu-metal and the Attitude Era?
                i don't remember a single pearl being clutched

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                That was the past, people would call it wrong now

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Zoomers aren't people.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Zoomers aren't people.

                Literally every single time I see a news story about Jerry the comments are full of people joking about him fricking 17 year olds. It's become a huge part of his legacy for people who extensively use social media

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >joking

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                There were constant jokes about it. Howard Stern got Joni Mitchell to come on his show and sign a parody song about it based on “At Seventeen.”
                But no one was thinking it would end his career, it was just funny. Plus Shoshanna had massive breasts so no one thought of Jerry as a pedo.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Howard Stern
                lmao irrelevant gen x shit why do you keep bringing up the past oldman

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Ba ba booie!

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Nobody should give a shit what the majority thinks. The majority thinks exactly what they're told to think, by either one side or another.

                Do YOU think it's moral for a 40-year-old to hit on a high schooler? Why or why not?

                I think it's absolutely fine. I made some dumb choices when I was in high school and emerged stronger for them. There is nothing wrong with a man and a woman having sex and when there's an age gap, it strengthens those bonds because the older party can mentor the younger party, in exchange for sex. Hell, if anything, it's a major boost because the young woman will get to skip the dumb bullshit busywork you get to do at the low end of the totem pole and get to do decent stuff from the get-go. And this is just from a transactional standpoint. If the two people have a genuine connection, what they do is nobody else's damn business.

                Prove me wrong homosexual, without appealing to muh emotions.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Nah I'm good pedo

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                That's what I thought. You will never be loved and your job has been taken by AIs.

                if you're not a TEEN dating another TEEN it is creepy
                sorry
                age of consent laws from 100 years ago are not only archaic but predatory in nature for pedophiles

                Wrong.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                It being irrelevant makes him killing himself over it even more laughable though

              • 2 months ago
                DoctorGreen

                >kid is a society simp
                kek

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                We live in a society

              • 2 months ago
                DoctorGreen

                ay wey

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Talking to 17/18 year olds is not "immoral", stop infantilizing these people.

              • 2 months ago
                DoctorGreen

                >Talking to 17/18 year olds is not "immoral"
                uh, sweetie. I'm sorry but you talked to that anon. that is clearly immoral

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                They're fricking kids, you moron. I'm only 28 and I still cringe at how little I knew at 20.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                To be fair, women are mentally children their entire lives.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Ironic, considering comic book fans are 90% manchildren.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                You'd be surprised how many girls are into comics/manga these days.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                I said comic books, not manga. And no, a lot of girls aren't into comics.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >And no, a lot of girls aren't into comics.
                There's a ton of women making graphic novels and webtoons and the like these days. They're enjoying the medium, it's just not monthly floppies.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                you still know very little

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Trying to frick teenagers when you're 30+ is immoral anon.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Doesn't matter. Ellis got cancelled for "grooming" cosplay chicks in their 20s and 30s. Andrew Cuomo got run out of office for "grooming" women in their late 20s. Grooming means nothing at this point, it's the sexual version of calling someone a fascist.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        What other word to use for when men try to coerce sexual relationships using their career or mentoring positions?

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Not grooming unless you believe adults are actually children and incapable of making decisions.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            So what you disagree with the definition that includes young person because then you'd have to admit, he was in fact, grooming?

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              My point is that you can't groom adults but also the idea of what an adult is is arbitrary unless you really believe there's a big diference between 17 years and 364 days and 18 years and 1 day or something dumb.

              I don't believe a woman (or man) in their 20s deciding to frick someone thinking it would advance their career is groomed. They're an adult who made a decision they weren't actually forced into making and valued the allure of advancement more than their dignity and self-worth.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >My point is that you can't groom adults
                You can groom adults. If an adult is vulnerable they can be groomed. Of course this is semantics. And I am not talking about this specific example just generally.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Grooming includes training or preparing someone for a particular purpose. I feel like moulding someone psychologically and manipulating them into a sexual relationship can be called grooming even if both participants are adults. What else would you call it? Sexual manipulation?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >What else would you call it? Sexual manipulation?
                Yes, its manipulation.
                But obviously that word is too big brain for people to type so they say gaslighting instead.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >I feel like moulding someone psychologically and manipulating them into a sexual relationship can be called grooming even if both participants are adults. What else would you call it? Sexual manipulation?
                if both are adults, it's called wooing/courting/flirting/hitting on/coming on to/chatting up/dating

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Not grooming unless you believe adults are actually children and incapable of making decisions.
            You're in a board that thinks 20 year olds are incapable of making decisions and unironically saying "their frontal lobe isn't completely developed!" while simultaneously lust over e-girls from shitty cartoon shows.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        don't forget Ezra Miller, those accusations were also bullshit and invented by the parents only after their ADULT dyke daughter accused them of abusing her
        they deflected to Ezra to cover their asses/save their reputations

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >accused them
          Sorry, I can't take your post seriously when you do this.

  29. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Good.

  30. 2 months ago
    Boco

    Who?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      just some Z-list guy who did some books for the indie and Big two

      • 2 months ago
        Boco

        Oh.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Boco you moronic licenseshitter

      • 2 months ago
        Boco

        What?

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          You don't like comics
          You're in it strictly for licenses
          You're the comic reader equivalent of someone who only buys Funko Pops

          • 2 months ago
            Boco

            I read original stuff! Sometimes!

          • 2 months ago
            DoctorGreen

            >Anon likes utter shit
            You don't have any higher ground here, schizo

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              >The only good comics are licenseshit

  31. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/142883250/
    Frick you Cinemaphile. At least the people who were witch hunting in that thread.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      The ghouls here are just as bad as the twitter mobs. You're all c**ts.

      Is that you Ed? April fools is over you can come out now

  32. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    The ghouls here are just as bad as the twitter mobs. You're all c**ts.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      It's the same people. You think the only people who post here are autistic fetishists and people angry about comic book movies? Plenty of deranged virtue-signaling keyboard warriors troll these boards. Ruining people's lives is their life's ambition.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Twittergays post here. Should be obvious by now.

  33. 2 months ago
    Aspiring Investor

    What art did he do? I'm trying to remember his work

  34. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    You have to be a complete moron if you genuinely believe he invited a fricking 17 year old over to his house to crash the night with "no sexual intent". He's 40+ years old, what man in his right mind would do this without understanding how badly that can be construed if it was innocent?
    Which it obviously wasn't, again, you'd have to be a complete moron to think he didn't do that with the intent to frick the 17 year old. I have no sympathy for him crying over it affecting his career, your reputation means everything in that industry, you're telling me he didn't understand what it would do to him when it inevitably got out? Fact is he was thinking with his dick and didn't care and that was the choice he made.
    That being said he obviously doesn't deserve to die for being a creep, but he's the one who made all these poor decisions including the unnecessary suicide so it's hard to feel sorry for him.
    Also sorry but the fact he killed himself so fast. You don't do that if you're an innocent man, if I had to wager a bet it's that he was aware of some other shit that hasn't come out as yet that would make coming back from this impossible and couldn't cope. There was literally no other reason to have such an overreaction in the way he did, I've seen this happen to artists several times in his position and they stick around and eventually people forget (even when they're guilty sometimes kek). The fact he jumped to suicide so quickly was not from "cyberbullying" or whatever bullshit he was spouting. All he had to do was lay low for a while and let things blow over then use his connections to get work again like what everyone else in his shoes has done.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >SHE WAS 17 and 365 DAY OLD YOU SICK FRICK

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        You shouldn't waste electricity and data centre storage with nonsense posts like this

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          I'm wasting even more by getting you to reply. The Earth will burn.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous Mogul

          ... and? Is there an actual point you'd like to add to the discussion here?

          The point is that if you're acting like a man deserves to die for a relationship with a 17 year old, your sense of morality is fricked. I don't think 40 years olds should be going after teenagers, it's inappropriate and sketchy. but it's nowhere near the same thing as going after a 10 year old or a 13 year old. It's legal in some countries.

          So what I'm adding is that if you're still acting like he did some horrible crime that makes him a monster, even after driving him to kill himself, then you're the monster here.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            You're acting like someone killed him. If he did die, he's the one that killed himself.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              I'm not acting like someone killed him. I'm acting like

              Actually I think its based when pedos kill themelves. I'd prefer he had gotten therapy instead of trying to frick kids but this is a fine alternative.

              Give me a reason why pedo suicide is bad?

              17 isn't pedophile, and yes the distinction actually matters here.

              >You clearly have no idea how the world works with all of this cancel bullshit
              I am literally an artist who has been cancelled myself and watched it happen numerous times to my peers. He is a gigantic moron who I have no sympathy for because everyone knows you don't send stupid shit like he sent to the teen, it's speedrunning ruining your whole career and causing problems.
              He could easily have come back from it (I've seen it happen to people in worse circumstances with none of the resources he has) but he ran to an hero instead, it's incredibly suspicious and points to more going on that he knew could potentially get out.
              [...]
              I literally said he didn't deserve to die and your post had nothing to do with my original post.

              >I literally said he didn't deserve to die and your post had nothing to do with my original post.
              Sure, but you also said it's hard to feel sympathy for him.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                You're still going about this, you creepy pedo?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                You know I'm right.

                >and yes the distinction actually matters here.
                Nope, it might if he was a freshman in college but when you're in your late 30s the distinction doesn't matter

                There's no difference between a 40 year old pursuing a 17 year old (and not actually doing anything, as

                >pedo
                But the BPD art ho who started the whole thing by calling him a creepy groomer pedo now says he didn't do anything. Tee hee, whoopsie!

                shows), and a 40 year old going after a 8 year old? Again, your sense of morality is fricked.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                One being worse does not stop the other from still being bad lmao. How hard is it to not try and frick a highschooler answer me that

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                They're both bad you moron lmao

                They're both "bad" but they're very different degrees of bad. Not picking up my dog's shit is "bad" and murdering a woman is "bad." Not the same though.

                Besides, he didn't actually do anything to her, not even dick pics.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Okay but you're still not realizing the degree of bad he did was still REALLY BAD, once again just because there is worse doesn't mean what he did crosses the line back to being good

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                anon youre arguing with an unironic pedo which is why hes caping so hard for a man doesnt even know

                >Have fun being unable to articulate why a pedo killing himself is a bad thing while seething in these threads.
                i can articulate it quite easily. a pedo killing himself is a bad thing because anybody killing themselves is a bad thing. you just think everyone should have the same double standards that you do.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                that was my first post in this thread. i just think suicide is a tragedy whenever it happens.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Not "deserves to die or should kill himself" bad

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                He's the one that made that choice

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                And people with normal, functioning senses of morality would prefer if he had made a difference choice.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                They're both bad you moron lmao

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >and yes the distinction actually matters here.
                Nope, it might if he was a freshman in college but when you're in your late 30s the distinction doesn't matter

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Yes, of course I don't have sympathy for him, he did an incredibly stupid thing and then overreacted in the biggest way possible. He is at worse a sexual creep and at best a complete and utter idiot who killed himself for no reason. You don't do shit like he did as an artist, it's common sense when you're in the public eye. He made the decision to do all those stupid things because he was horny and made the conscious decision to throw his art career away by doing so, why on earth would I feel sympathy for him.

                Found the moron

                There's some guy samegayging like crazy intent on arguing ITT incase it wasn't obvious from the spamming, don't even bother (but you're right kek).

                You're talking to people who think its ok to frick high school girls, they dont care.

                It's the only explanation for people missing the point this hard tbh.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >You don't do shit like he did as an artist
                lmao
                maybe not as a comic artist

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Yes? Any artist that relies on internet presence and reputation, including a comic artist, which he was.

                Okay, so you really are just a scumbag.

                A scumbag because I call a man an idiot for being an idiot? If he valued his career so much he wouldn't have been so stupid, fact is he CHOSE to throw it away because he was horny. He didn't have to be stupid and message inappropriate things to the teenager (automatic career killer that every artist knows will nuke your career whether they are legal or NOT) but he CHOSE to do so. He CHOSE to kill himself for no actual reason as I've explained many times, it's difficult to have sympathy for anyone in this day and age who does stupid shit like this and cries because they realized that the thing that they knew was a stupid thing to do, was a stupid thing to do.

                >Fricking 17yo is wrong
                Feminism rotted your brain

                Samegay, please get a new argument and stop putting words in my mouth. It's a career killer and everyone knows that, please get a grip and stop being so disingenuous and missing the point completely.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                have you seen the shit that actual artists get away with?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Obviously, but I don't understand how that's relevant to the topic at hand.

                He didn't even frick her or meet her you dumb moron. He just talked to her on social media 4 years ago and that was it.

                I ask you again, AND? What on earth does that have to do with anything I have said? I've been saying the entire time he was an idiot for messaging her stupid shit, it's common sense not to do that and he still did it and he chose to do it all despite knowing what it would mean for him.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                I agree that what he did was stupid, but it certainly didn't warrant losing everything over and trying to ruin the man's life, which is what they were all set out to do.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Well that's a completely different conversation that you're having with that point. I have my own issues with cancel culture which is a complex and much bigger topic than just this single isolated incident. Again he obviously didn't deserve to die but it wasn't like this was shit from 10 years ago or some shit before everything became insane on social media which I'd be more sympathetic towards. I say this as an artist myself, there are rules you have to follow if you have an online presence and everyone knows them nowadays so he was aware of what would happen. It's what makes it hard for me to have sympathy, he completely brought this upon himself by his own actions when he knew better and was easily avoided on his part.

                I greatly regret opening this thread but the gist seems to be
                >older guy was thirsty
                >clumsily hit on 17 year old fan
                >didn't even get far
                >several years later
                >girl, now 21, decides to tell everyone he tried to groom her
                >he decides to kill himself

                So, did all his friends and family just instantly turn on him? I think that would drive a lot of people over the edge. Kind of suck if that's the case, I'd like to think the people around me would have my back no matter how badly I fricked up.

                No, he was actually in a very good position to eventually recover from this and still had big connections. The fact he chose the nuclear option honestly makes me raise an eyebrow because I've seen people in way worse positions than him get their careers back once things settle down. Makes me wonder if he's done worse and knew there was no coming back from it once it got out or something like that, no other logical reason why he'd overreact in the way he did.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                I don't know. It apparently was 4-5 years ago, which would have been when the Kayfabe channel was new and hadn't gotten much of a following yet. Not like you can predict you're going to be famous and have old conversations come back to bite you in the ass. Regardless, he was stupid for messaging her in the first place, even if she was 10 years older. Women are always looking for a way to garner sympathy for how they were treated by someone.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                In that sense it's probably the only smallest bit of sympathy I can muster, you do dumb stuff before you get a following and don't realize you're eventually gonna have an audience to answer to.

                >no other logical reason why he'd overreact in the way he did.
                He was probably severely depressed. Logic kind of goes out the window at that point.

                Well sure, but an overreaction like that? He didn't even try to defend himself. He made some vaguely worded letter saying he totally had innocent intentions inviting a teen to crash his house and stay over as if anyone with a brain would believe it and killed himself (because he knew he was peddling bullshit, lets call a spade a spade here). I've witnessed people who actually tried grooming 12 year olds and lost every connection they've ever made hang around for years after the fact waiting for things to die down and never stopped defending themselves the entire time despite being caught red handed (and did eventually come back).
                While it could have been stress, he was certainly nowhere near his career being over and had a lot of reassurance from his peers that he still had support. His reaction makes no sense for the reason he's citing he's doing it for, was more my point.

                >You don't do that if you're an innocent man
                You don't know how scandal works. People do cost benefit analysis and don't care about morality. They cancelled his show and he was losing deals because of the press, not because they actually cared. Imagine if someone said something about you, true or not, and your life imploded? Most people were just looking for an accuse to attack him and didn't care about what he is alleged to have done.

                Pretending that how he acted means he is guilty shows how little you understand and is rather disgusting. He basically lost everything over a few days. No one was waiting for his statement. They had all decided he was persona non grata.

                >You don't know how scandal works
                >Imagine if someone said something about you, true or not, and your life imploded
                I have been cancelled myself and even had my own stalkers, I have witnessed peers of mine experience it on massive scales as well. I understand exactly how it works and what I'm saying is true, his behavior is completely abnormal for an innocent person in his situation because I've personally witnessed it many times. I'm just a spectator and not actually accusing him of anything, just I find his behavior weird and suspicious for that reason...

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Well sure, but an overreaction like that? He didn't even try to defend himself
                >his behavior is completely abnormal for an innocent person
                You fundamentally do not understand human psychology and you believe everyone behaves in the same way. This wasn't just social media pressure: his friends were abandoning him, he lost a show and work, he was doxxed on local news. I don't believe you when you say you've been cancelled because you show no understanding to the situation at all. You're like the person saying "deleting social media is suspicious" not realising that is pure speculation on your part because people behave in a variety of ways to stress. You are one of the biggest disingenous homosexuals in this whole thread. I can understand the ghouls and the trolls but you have such an undercurrent of ignorance and faux intellectualism. You pretend like you understand the situation on one hand whilst pushing your bizarre theories with another. You're like a tiktok true crime homosexual thinking you've solve a crime when you actually know nothing about anything. Go frick yourself.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >I'm just a spectator and not actually accusing him of anything
                Yes you are accusing him of shit you lying frick:

                You have to be a complete moron if you genuinely believe he invited a fricking 17 year old over to his house to crash the night with "no sexual intent". He's 40+ years old, what man in his right mind would do this without understanding how badly that can be construed if it was innocent?
                Which it obviously wasn't, again, you'd have to be a complete moron to think he didn't do that with the intent to frick the 17 year old. I have no sympathy for him crying over it affecting his career, your reputation means everything in that industry, you're telling me he didn't understand what it would do to him when it inevitably got out? Fact is he was thinking with his dick and didn't care and that was the choice he made.
                That being said he obviously doesn't deserve to die for being a creep, but he's the one who made all these poor decisions including the unnecessary suicide so it's hard to feel sorry for him.
                Also sorry but the fact he killed himself so fast. You don't do that if you're an innocent man, if I had to wager a bet it's that he was aware of some other shit that hasn't come out as yet that would make coming back from this impossible and couldn't cope. There was literally no other reason to have such an overreaction in the way he did, I've seen this happen to artists several times in his position and they stick around and eventually people forget (even when they're guilty sometimes kek). The fact he jumped to suicide so quickly was not from "cyberbullying" or whatever bullshit he was spouting. All he had to do was lay low for a while and let things blow over then use his connections to get work again like what everyone else in his shoes has done.

                >You don't do that if you're an innocent man, if I had to wager a bet it's that he was aware of some other shit that hasn't come out as yet that would make coming back from this impossible and couldn't cope.
                This is an accusation.

                One day this shit will come for you.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >one day this shit will come for you
                this has always been a bad argument, even historically. most people support censorship and witch hunts and do there best to be IN the mob.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                The issue is that anon is accusing Ed of shit based on pure speculation whilst also claiming to not be accusing him.
                >well Ed's actions mean he is probably guilty of something worse
                Is nothing but pure speculation. Because that anon thinks he knows how all people act.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >no other logical reason why he'd overreact in the way he did.
                He was probably severely depressed. Logic kind of goes out the window at that point.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                He didn't even frick her or meet her you dumb moron. He just talked to her on social media 4 years ago and that was it.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                What a monster, right? Should be castrated in public

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >inappropriate
                You have never talked to women.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Okay, so you really are just a scumbag.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Actually I think its based when pedos kill themelves. I'd prefer he had gotten therapy instead of trying to frick kids but this is a fine alternative.

            Give me a reason why pedo suicide is bad?

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Are we sure you also aren’t one?.. when people post like you it makes me wonder.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                I'm not acting like someone killed him. I'm acting like
                [...]
                17 isn't pedophile, and yes the distinction actually matters here.
                [...]
                >I literally said he didn't deserve to die and your post had nothing to do with my original post.
                Sure, but you also said it's hard to feel sympathy for him.

                You arent giving any reasons why a pedophile killing himself is a bad thing. You're just being emotional.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Whatever anon, have fun baiting in a suicide thread. Have one last (you).

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Have fun being unable to articulate why a pedo killing himself is a bad thing while seething in these threads.

                This is true. I apologize, I’m tired. I get emotional when I’m sleepy. I will go to bed now. Goodbye.

                Thats fine, goodnight and dont have a nice day!

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Have fun being unable to articulate why a pedo killing himself is a bad thing while seething in these threads.
                i can articulate it quite easily. a pedo killing himself is a bad thing because anybody killing themselves is a bad thing. you just think everyone should have the same double standards that you do.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >a pedo killing himself is a bad thing because anybody killing themselves is a bad thing
                Nah bad people killing themselves is based. Look at Hitler.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                This is true. I apologize, I’m tired. I get emotional when I’m sleepy. I will go to bed now. Goodbye.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Goodnight, sweet dreams.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            I've never acted like he deserved to die, but apparently he thought he did

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        ... and? Is there an actual point you'd like to add to the discussion here?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      It was the vaxx and the covid confinements, he wasn't thinking straight.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Dude claimed he had 5 million dollars and was still gonna get royalties. Killing yourself over this just shows what a pathetic manchild he is.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      You clearly have no idea how the world works with all of this cancel bullshit. Were the messages creepy? Yeah but she is legal and knew what the frick she was doing. If not then she needs to get her moronic ass off the internet asap. There was no coming back from this for him. He pissed off just enough of the right people and they were never gonna let him live this down.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Once again why the frick are you clinging so hard to legality when that shit doesn't matter. Things can be bad while also being legal, is that too hard of a concept for you to understand.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Because 99 percent of you fricking homosexuals are calling him a pedo when it isn't the case. He was a creepy and she was some dumb b***h trying to get attention on the internet.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            And Nimrod is actually a great hunter and moron is medical term, we get it people aren't using pedo in a hyperspecific way and are being more general about it, point is don't try to frick highs schoolers if you don't want people calling you a pedo

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >You clearly have no idea how the world works with all of this cancel bullshit
        I am literally an artist who has been cancelled myself and watched it happen numerous times to my peers. He is a gigantic moron who I have no sympathy for because everyone knows you don't send stupid shit like he sent to the teen, it's speedrunning ruining your whole career and causing problems.
        He could easily have come back from it (I've seen it happen to people in worse circumstances with none of the resources he has) but he ran to an hero instead, it's incredibly suspicious and points to more going on that he knew could potentially get out.

        [...]
        The point is that if you're acting like a man deserves to die for a relationship with a 17 year old, your sense of morality is fricked. I don't think 40 years olds should be going after teenagers, it's inappropriate and sketchy. but it's nowhere near the same thing as going after a 10 year old or a 13 year old. It's legal in some countries.

        So what I'm adding is that if you're still acting like he did some horrible crime that makes him a monster, even after driving him to kill himself, then you're the monster here.

        I literally said he didn't deserve to die and your post had nothing to do with my original post.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      You're talking to people who think its ok to frick high school girls, they dont care.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      overweight female hands typed this post.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Found the moron

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          I think someone struck a nerve hehehe

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Fricking 17yo is wrong
      Feminism rotted your brain

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        When you're 38? Yeah

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Correct and truth pilled. He wrought this upon himself

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >You don't do that if you're an innocent man
      You don't know how scandal works. People do cost benefit analysis and don't care about morality. They cancelled his show and he was losing deals because of the press, not because they actually cared. Imagine if someone said something about you, true or not, and your life imploded? Most people were just looking for an accuse to attack him and didn't care about what he is alleged to have done.

      Pretending that how he acted means he is guilty shows how little you understand and is rather disgusting. He basically lost everything over a few days. No one was waiting for his statement. They had all decided he was persona non grata.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      from the note he seems to think killing himself will clear things up, make people forgive him, and get publishers to take up his projects again with him out of the picture. what a strange, illogical rationalization. kinda tragic.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        The Fletcher Hanks treatment. Everyone hails him as some sort of mad genius of comics, nobody thinks about how he hit his wife so hard he broke her bones and forbid her from going to the hospital.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Ironic rediscovery by Art Spiegelman decades after your death isn't exactly the same as killing yourself to try a salvage your IPs fast enough to purportedly provide for your ailing parents.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          the wifebeating and freezing to death is literally brought up in any extended stardust conversation.

  35. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Everyone is forgetting that he appropriated black culture with his Hip Hop Family Tree comics. As a white guy. He should have been cancelled long ago for that.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Killing people over, check notes, Appropriation cultural

      Leftists don't have soul

  36. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Another victim of the Woke mob cancel culture and the me too.
    people didn't learn anything from Alec Hollowka and Johny depp, the problem is that not everyone has the resources of the later to defend themselves and prove to the world their innocence.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Holowka had a mood disorder (Aka a narc) and Depp was legally proven to have been abusing Amber (you're actually moronic if you believe the 23 year old was the one manipulating the 50 year old millionaire drug addict)

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >MEGA PINT
        It was clear from the trail that she’s a manipulative crazy person and he’s a sad old drunk.

  37. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Honestly killing yourself this close to the allegations just makes you look more guilty. I feel someone truly convinced of their own innocence would fight a lot harder to prove it instead of immediately calling it quits and putting a gun in their mouth

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Show me a man who was given allegations and nothing in their life changed.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Ed was a hermit that was terminally online.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >I feel someone truly convinced of their own innocence would fight a lot harder
      When has that ever worked? Depp maybe (deep pockets). Once the mob makes up their mind it's a done deal. Even apologies and self-flagellation only feeds the sharks. The best thing is to lay low and try a comeback, but that's no guarantee. Ed's entire life was comics, and it was taken away overnight.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Unironically Trump. It doesn't matter how many heinous things he's accused of he just doesn't give a shit and ignores it until people forget and move on to the next outrage.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          You can't cancel people who don't care. It's only when you apologize or show remorse that the woke mob wins. Never give in.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Yep. I wish Ed had just let this blow over. In a month no one would have remembered and he could start shopping his strip around to publishers again. He was planning on going to Japan in April anyway, just take a break for a while. The normiesphere has the attention span of a goldfish. They won't care if you just ignore them for a while.

  38. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Tragedy regardless of what he did or didn’t do

  39. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Left and Right comics twitter are scrambling to blame the other side for this

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      it is funny if nothing else

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Weren't the people hounding him left-leaning?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        EVS and his group of fat morons were piling on all week.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          And now they've all turned around saying it's a tragedy caused by SJWs. The grift never stops

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Well yeah it was.
            Why do you think Cinemaphile is getting labeled with GG2 when they themselves don't think so.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah, and morons will flock to them because they've got no awareness. It's fricked, man. I'm seeing grifters shriek about how Evan Dorkin LITERALLY murdered Ed despite his comments being mild as frick.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            His not literally names cancerpous leftoid comic homosexuals like decampy and AYOOOOOOO.. show me the part where he says "frick you ethan." Its you and your cultist ledtoid freaks fault. Congrats. I thought you gaygorts loved fricking up little kids.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              The point is that none of them actually gave a shit until they saw an opportunity to act like they were heroes who saw the truth all along instead of laughing and cheering along with everyone else who was going after Ed. That's what a grift is you dense moron

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                He doesn't care. It's all culture war shit to him.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              >show me the part where he says "frick you ethan."
              he refused to mention ethan 'til the end. based.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous
          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            This guy sounds like he has a lot of hidden folders on his hard drive.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Then today he was defending Ed. These grifters(both sides) have no shame.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >YOU GOTTA STAND BY YOUR PEDO FRIENDS
            hahaha man comicsgate gays are clowns

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        It was both sides.

        Jon Del Arroz had an article here:
        https://twitter.com/fandompulse/status/1772266484351537530
        In the article he was also accusing Ed of being part of the Whisper Network.

        And then he's posting
        https://twitter.com/jondelarroz/status/1774890239062126606

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Ed one of the rare few hated by both sides

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >both sides

          They're the same side. Culture warriors are all the same, they just want to cancel and censor everything they don't agree with.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Ed one of the rare few hated by both sides
          Damn, like Crumb. He must have been doing something right.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah and pedophiles are right leaning

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        It was both sides.

        Jon Del Arroz had an article here:
        https://twitter.com/fandompulse/status/1772266484351537530
        In the article he was also accusing Ed of being part of the Whisper Network.

        And then he's posting
        https://twitter.com/jondelarroz/status/1774890239062126606

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          People like this should be given to the mexican cartels

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            He's already a Hispanic.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          This guy is beyond a nobody. He's a nobody's nobody.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Weren't the people hounding him left-leaning?
        no, his network was too personal for that.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        See:

        At worst he was inappropriate. This whole situation happened not because of these allegations but because Ed had seemingly pissed everyone off:
        >CGers hated him because he didn't want to be political or shill their books. They claimed he had fobbed people off from Dan Fraga to Noah Van Sciver but this is disputed.
        >Some left wingers hated him for cultural appropriation or because he didn't talk up the modern industry or their books.
        >Some people hated his attitude or use of the word jobbers/hacks to describe some industry artists.
        >Some people didn't like the way the channel was going.
        >Loads of people seemingly took his attitude the wrong way, rather than seeing it as "shooting the shit" with a buddy, they saw him like he was an egotist who produced bad work shitting on others.
        This industry is fricking mental.

        Remember what happened to Sean Gordon Murphy?
        >Made a cover for a CGer so left wing twitter came at him, he realised his mistake and had the cover pulled.
        >His tweets around the BLM were not good enough for them so they came at him again.
        >He supported the trans creator Magdalene Visaggio.
        >Asked for help when people were attacking him.
        >Mags accused him of love bombing.
        >Lovebombing is when someone levels attention/affection on someone with the intent of manipulating them.
        >Sean is married and Mags is autistic so probably took things the wrong way.
        >Dude ended up getting rid of social media.
        Remember James Harvey?
        >Wrote a comic for Fantagraphics.
        >Partner stated the grooming in the comic story was real and he did it to her.
        >Fantagraphics pulled the comic and apologised.
        >She was 24 when they met and he was 30!

        >Someone on Reddit made a comic with Ed and these other guys in it and the comic also featured creators actually convicted for sex crimes as if they had done anything similar!
        Frick this industry. Frick social media. Frick the drama obsession.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        https://twitter.com/TravisHedgeCoke/status/1774917571973980418
        https://twitter.com/TravisHedgeCoke/status/1771645202903474399
        https://twitter.com/TravisHedgeCoke/status/1772304646800908605

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >WOMEN HE FRICKED DID NOT DRIVE HIM TO SUICIDE!
          >he didn't frick the girl he dm'd
          Crazy.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Most were probably Lefties since they hated Ed for "stealing" homie culture with his hip hop book
        Righties are OBSESSED with everyone being a pedo (since they already accepted porn/contraception/divorce/premarital sex as okay)

  40. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Having a vicious mob going at you isn't for everyone, Ed was weak and feeble, his tough guy persona crumbled at the first challenge in the worse way possible if the rumors are true.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Believe me I have gone through the gates of hell and come back.. I have stared the devil in the eyes and I’m still here to tell the tale.. I wish Ed would have pushed through, it gets better. I’m now stronger than ever

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        That's what the mob wanted, they wanted to see the results of their actions, see him struggle and suffer for years, this is like the death penalty, a quick way out.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah he was pretty weak. The reason he always wore sunglasses is because of nervousness talking in front of a camera. Literally what parents do to calm down their 5 year old children.

  41. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    So let me get this straight...he denies everything and is willing to share all texts and DMs to prove it...but only after killing himself?

    Only thing dumber than inviting 17 year old thots to your house over instagram, is killing yourself over it.

    Must have been other shit coming down the pipe. He wasn't even getting that much heat over it compared to your average cyber mobbing. Could have denied everything and rode it out

  42. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I really didn't expect this. I kind of thought this would just blow over after a few weeks, even if CK was left inactive.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      As much as I dislike the guy, when the mob came for Vaush, even friends of his, he just shrugged it off and decided not to acknowledge it, should be a lesson to people how to react in those situations.

  43. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Women were a fricking mistake. Vile, soulless creatures.

  44. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    RIP but kind of glad his shitty taste is no longer the most popular comics opinion

  45. 2 months ago
    Boco

    Well, its still sad, I guess. Suicide is rough.

  46. 2 months ago
    Fledgling Investor

    Who?

  47. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Molly Wright's face when she now understands her true power

  48. 2 months ago
    Anonymous
    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      All the standard grifting channels will be cashing in on this one.

  49. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >dead wigger pedo
    Don't care
    $RDDT is going moon

  50. 2 months ago
    Aspiring Investor

    Here's the thing to remember; Ed likely had psychological issues before this all happened.

    Concerning the allegations, I think Ed was arrogant and got a big head from the fame. Forget how many industry artists distanced themselves from him after this

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Here's the thing to remember; Ed likely had psychological issues before this all happened.

      yeah it's called being terminally online.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >yeah it's called being terminally online
        I keep seeing this but as far as posting he was far less online than most of his peers, his social media presence was low. He seems to have spent most of his time drawing (and working on the channel). Doesn't mean he wasn't a lurker though.

  51. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    What we can learn from this:
    Don't make internet friends, period. That should be a given, even Ed should've known better. Covid wasn't an excuse. You never really know these people and they can always use your little DM conversations as ammo, stripping context off of things, etc.

    Run to the fricking hills when you see an art hoe. They are all clinically insane. Start engaging with actual normie girls. It's for the best for you that they do not align with your autistic/nerdy interests.

    Never work in the American comicbook industry. Not only it doesn't pay for shit, you also will wind up having to deal with schizoids from both the political aisles (Comicgate grifters and the Whisper Network), that will gladly ruin your life and drive you to suicide if you start to threaten them with your success outside their little make-believe fantasy bubbles they call "their industry". Constantly walking on eggshells, your internet presence always being constantly monitorized like an HR department on roids, always waiting for you to fumble. It's not worth the hassle.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      IMO the bigger lesson is "dont try to frick highschool girls"

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Proof?
        Her out-of-context screenshots don't count.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >out-of-context
          Sure thing, buddy...

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            You know DMs can be faked, right?

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Why didn't he take her to court? Because he's a pedo groomer.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          I dont need to show proof. The pedo is dead.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      You can have friends and should. Just don't be desperate and simp in any roasties dms who gives you attention. You should be meeting women irl in your area anyway.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Don't make internet friends, period.
      Just don't aspire to frick people unless they are of age, they aren't already in a relationship, and you've met them more times in real life than you have in a Discord chat.

      I have plenty of online video game friends. What are the odds I'm going to find three of my co-workers who also enjoy Left4Dead? And if you play any tactical or hero shooter, you're bound to run into some cracked 16-year old in a pick-up group. You just have to not be weird and groom them.

      I know there are desperate virgins whose thoughts get consumed with sex because they're 30 and REALLY want human interaction, but holy shit, that ain't the way. At that point, just save up for a Vegas hooker.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        It's a conceit, he thought he had enough clout to bag a teenager

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        It was the vaxx that made him like school photos with a whiteboard.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        STFU homosexual.

        Most of us want one thing. To frick and get fricked up. When I talk to a woman I am running numbers in my head of "how likely am I to frick this b***h." When I do something it's a question of "is this likely to get me to frick or get fricked up?" There are exceptions, but strangers? You better fricking believe it. If you do not do this, you are a homosexual.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >I only see women as good for sex
          I hope you have a nice day. Sooner the better

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            People who tell others to kill themselves are more likely to kill themselves. It's always projection.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          maybe you should have some thoughts of "will this put me in jail?" also

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            But in this case the answer would still be no.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              i wasn't talking about Piskor, i was talking about Mr. Id there

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Normie girls are just as bad

  52. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Woke twitter leftists changing all the rules....men cant even flirt with kids half their age anymore, its like 1984

  53. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Man the internet just not fun anymore.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Giving brown people access to the internet was a huge mistake for mankind.

  54. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >SHE WAS 17 YEARS OLD
    so what, that's legal in a lot of states and countries, is not the fricking same as trying to go after literal 10 years old children.
    that's why the ephebophile concept exist, so morons won't go calling pedo any 18s guy dating a 17s girl.

    leftists again have proven that they are soulest monsters who are only looking for people to cancel and ruin their lives over the most insignificant of things so they can virtue signal on internet.
    this people make me sick

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Sure it's not the same thing as going after a 10 year old, but that doesn't mean it isn't bad. You pull out the romeo and juliet 'he's 18, she's 17' defense, but motherfrickers 41.
      If you're in your 40s going after highschoolers you're a piece of shit. Pull out a lawbook and say 'Hey, it's legal here!' and, ok, that doesn't make you not a piece of shit.

      • 2 months ago
        guy

        Old tradition that Joseph was elderly when he married Mary.
        The real issue is your careerism which leads you to weaponize your experience from years to clobber competition in your field with manipulation involving what you know about higher-ups, etc. to get more for yourself. I prefer to help people in my field even if I get no money back.

  55. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    There was one major spastic pushing these threads and the jannies did nothing. If you care about one malicious moron doing this you should make a larger effort of actually ruining the board. Ruin storytime threads, shit up shitty cartoon generals, more inane schizo bullshit. You know that if you post enough times some moron will think it's funny and will join in, then it's just another epic board culture meme that gets posted every time someone tries to have a genuine discussion about this and that and then that thing is ruined forever on Cinemaphile.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous
    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >If you care about one malicious moron doing this you should make a larger effort of actually ruining the board.
      Nah, that's too much work. This board can ruin itself perfectly fine on it's own.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous
    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      There's a reason I haven't come to this board in like 5 years and these threads have proved it. Cinemaphile may be the worst board on this site.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Mods are fricking gone, by the way, take the time to dump your image folder in a storytime thread today!

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      this pretty much

      we've been overtaken by schizos and are basically observers in our own community.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      This. I'm personally image dumping my Cinemaphile folder in every storytime thread

  56. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I don't know if social media has made people into twisted, disgusting mockeries of humans or if it's simply exposed how sick most people are by allowing them to share every vile thought they have with no filter because life has been turned into a performance where audience approval in the form of likes, retweets and shit has become humanity's most important thing.

    Either way social media was a mistake.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      The sad truth is that most of these vile people are young kids looking for attention.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I was like that once. But when you grow up you realize how pathetic it is.

  57. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Incels are too distracted to pretend they care about the suicide so they've just devolved into ranting about how awful women are

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      You don't need some skinny wigger offing himself to remind us that women are fricking awful.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah you guys rant about it all day, it makes it hard to care when you try and feign sympathy about cyberbullying. You just sound like gamergategays tbh.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Nobody wants you to care, we just want you gone.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Good luck with that, you couldnt win a culture war against a wet paper bag.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              You'll ruin your own cause all by yourselves, it's your nature. The gamergaters, or whatever boogeyman name you've given them today, don't have to do a thing.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Whats my cause? You sound like a gamergate freak lmao, I'm just here laughing at a dead pedo while I have coffee.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                You sound like trash.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                You're a gamergate culture war freak defending a pedo, thats a compliment from you. Please follow your hero Ed soon!

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                bait

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                I don't engage in culture war crap, but you clearly do. Also, you're trash.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >I don't engage in culture war crap
                LMAO

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Keep being trash, trash.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Hey, what's the difference between Ed Piskor and the baby in my microwave?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                You should probably keep your hands off of babies, you projecting pedophile.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                The difference is that the baby is alive (for now)

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                No, making Gamer Gate 2 happen will not save your dying site.
                Go look for a new job already.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                The people pushing GG2 are conservative grifters, not twitter trannies. Sowwy bwo.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                You don't know what a grifter is. You are, in fact, a disingenuous little chimpanzee.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >t. Someone who fell for gamergate

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                It's both, actual. War is a racket after all.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                This.

                Left-leaning wants to have GG2 to downplay the problems and cause everyone to support in panic of the GG crowd coming back

                Right-leaning wants to have GG2 to have more things to write about for Youtube and get those clicks because otherwise they don't get views and money

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                please just frick off and have a nice day already. Seriously. Jump off a building. please.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Please follow your hero
                you dont get to say this to people

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                He's an edgy teenager. Don't respond to him.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Bad behavior is only bad if it's somebody else doing it.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >YOU CANT MAKE LIGHT OF A SUICIDE THIS IS HECKIN Cinemaphile
                Why not? What are you going to do about it, prevent Ed's suicide?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Hey, I'm not the one getting replaced by AI. You are.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              >culture war
              This is why I stay home. Because If I saw you in real life saying this shit, i'd be in jail, but there would be one less homosexual with eyes on the streets. What am i saying.. cancel pigs like you never leave your moms basement anyway.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I mean, they fricking are. What else can you say? Hope both Mollies kill themselves next.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Women don't commit suicide out of guilt because they don't feel guilt. In the rare case where a woman "tries" to commit suicide, she's doing it because she wants attention.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Why would they kill themselves? That's something moids do when they get in trouble

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >man kills himself
      >somehow this is a woman's fault

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Every tragedy throughout history had an Eva Braun standing behind the scenes pulling the strings.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Women's Fake allegations destroy men's lives and drives them to suicide.
        >Women most affected

        Modern women are narcissists b***hes with children's mentality

  58. 2 months ago
    Anonymous
  59. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Fricking legal age teenagers is based
    So is Ed
    Also frick Gary Groth

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Also frick Gary Groth
      This is a given and should be said daily regardless because there is surely always a situation involving him where the thought "frick Gary Groth" is appropriate.

  60. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I saw the photos Ed liked that were posted in the old thread, he must have been really depressed, that's all I'm saying.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      It was in 2020 during the lockdowns. He said in some of the Patreon livestreams that the only person he saw during that period was Jim once a week. On top of drawing torture porn comics all day it must have really fricked his head up.

  61. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Honestly we should just forbid the internet and social media access for little kids and teenagers.
    You will need to show your ID to open chrome.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Best case scenario is internet access becomes an over 18 thing and people look back on letting kids on it the same way we look back on letting kids smoke in the olden days.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      DeSantis signed a bill banning anyone under 16 from social media and leftists started going apeshit about how it "violates first amendment rights" and shit which is funny since they don't care about the first amendment and constantly mock "freeze peach".

      Then on the flipside, rightoids threw a fit over Biden's TikTok ban because Daddy Orangeman said TikTok was better and "more free" than Facebook since they hadn't banned him or whatever dumb shit is going through his gay moron mush brain.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        both libtards and conservicucks got mad over the tiktok ban.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        The tiktok ban is worse since it gives the government a broad power to ban any ap or website they dislike. Way worse overreach.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Only in shit countries like Russia and China.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            It is not limited to them, moron.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        this isn't really to protect the poor innocent chillun but because They realize that anti-"israeli" sentiment is tied to social media use.

  62. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >sells himself as an epic punk rock hardass
    >kills himself over tweets
    fricking lmao. all "punk rock" gays are pathetic pussies.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      That's the gimmick, he cultivated this try hard, know it all, too cool persona and his mask fell, he lived a kayfabe till the end.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >sells himself as an epic punk rock hardass
        >kills himself over tweets
        fricking lmao. all "punk rock" gays are pathetic pussies.

        Doubling down won't change the fact that what you did was immoral and that you will pay for it. We know, god knows, the universe knows, whatever it is knows what you did and what you were a part of.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          I did nothing numbnuts, I was shadow banned from their channel years ago and I don't engage in IG/Twitter at all.

  63. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >homies unironically defending fricking teenagers
    wtf guys i thought we were only pedos ironically or just horny for cartoons

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous
      • 2 months ago
        DoctorGreen

        just urban problems

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      This board might as well be /aco/ with the shit of teenagers I've seen here

  64. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    hope many more comic people go

  65. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Man...what a joke.....I guess he the one laughing at all of us now.

  66. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I still can't believe that obvious sockpuppet account was the only way he tried defending himself. Don't make a statement or hold some formal stance that can at least buy you some time, just start calling people pussies and losers while retweeting everyone who thinks you're Outlaw Comic Jesus

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      That account already posted something, so it wasn't him.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        But the account you thought was a sockpuppet just posted after he was confirmed dead.

        >multiple people can't have control of the same account

        • 2 months ago
          DoctorGreen

          >multiple people can't have control of the same account
          meanwhile Cinemaphilemmanders can't take control of their own lives
          kek

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      But the account you thought was a sockpuppet just posted after he was confirmed dead.

  67. 2 months ago
    Anonymous
    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Harry is such a bro.

  68. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Never really watched Cartoonist Kayfabe, but it's a shame to hear this news. Guy was an alleged weirdo and now he's dead for it, no one deserves that.

  69. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Molly Dwyer, who is now 21, released a series of DMs/images on Instagram and alleged Ed was a "groomer" but that he had done nothing physical to her; she had just realised it was inappropriate years later.
    >She was 17 at the time and liked a series of Ed's work. Ed messaged her. Many of the comments were taken out of context. Ed did like some of her older photos when she was younger.The age of consent is 16 there and corruption of a minor does not count here. He did nothing illegal and the use of the word groomer is more general definition than legal.
    >She received a bunch of backlash and said she didn't want him cancelled and just wanted to warn people about his inappropriate behaviour. She didn't understand the comic culture politics on display. She didn't want to talk to media outlets about it.
    >Both sides of the culture war divide came down hard on Ed because they hate him for their own numerous reasons, mostly because he avoided the culture war. Many fans or haters of CK had their own bone to pick with Ed, mostly because they decided a bunch of perceptions on who Ed was.
    >Molly Wright (different Molly) then alleged Ed wanted a blowjob in exchange for his agent's number. This turned it into a "multiple women" situation. He denied that in his suicide note and said they engaged in sex twice with her initiating both times. She still remained in contact with him for some time before fizzling out.
    >Another woman claimed Ed wanted to draw her naked in exchange for industry help. Ed claims he just wanted to draw her naked because she is hot. They apparently remained in contact for some time too.
    >The news doxxed him. His art show was cancelled. No one was coming out to defend or support him. He was facing losing deals too. Cinemaphile had multiple long threads about it. Reddit and other fan accounts turned on him, comparing him to real offenders/criminals in the industry. People claimed a twitter account was his alt, he denied that and it has been proven to not be his alt.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      So he really didn't do much at all and it was a witchhunt.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        At worst he was inappropriate. This whole situation happened not because of these allegations but because Ed had seemingly pissed everyone off:
        >CGers hated him because he didn't want to be political or shill their books. They claimed he had fobbed people off from Dan Fraga to Noah Van Sciver but this is disputed.
        >Some left wingers hated him for cultural appropriation or because he didn't talk up the modern industry or their books.
        >Some people hated his attitude or use of the word jobbers/hacks to describe some industry artists.
        >Some people didn't like the way the channel was going.
        >Loads of people seemingly took his attitude the wrong way, rather than seeing it as "shooting the shit" with a buddy, they saw him like he was an egotist who produced bad work shitting on others.
        This industry is fricking mental.

        Remember what happened to Sean Gordon Murphy?
        >Made a cover for a CGer so left wing twitter came at him, he realised his mistake and had the cover pulled.
        >His tweets around the BLM were not good enough for them so they came at him again.
        >He supported the trans creator Magdalene Visaggio.
        >Asked for help when people were attacking him.
        >Mags accused him of love bombing.
        >Lovebombing is when someone levels attention/affection on someone with the intent of manipulating them.
        >Sean is married and Mags is autistic so probably took things the wrong way.
        >Dude ended up getting rid of social media.
        Remember James Harvey?
        >Wrote a comic for Fantagraphics.
        >Partner stated the grooming in the comic story was real and he did it to her.
        >Fantagraphics pulled the comic and apologised.
        >She was 24 when they met and he was 30!

        >Someone on Reddit made a comic with Ed and these other guys in it and the comic also featured creators actually convicted for sex crimes as if they had done anything similar!
        Frick this industry. Frick social media. Frick the drama obsession.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        It was an inciting incident that people who hated him used to take him down. It wasn't about him being a "groomer" but him pissing off people who now had ammo.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Yep. It's always this way. I guarantee every single person who called him a pedo or a groomer is projecting.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            You mean like

            He was clearly a groomer though.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              of course

  70. 2 months ago
    Aspiring Investor

    I think Joe Bennett was treated poorly over his cancel culture controversy. He wasn't a sicko, just a dude who did questionable political cartoons for Brazil

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      The best part of that was that he drew politicians as goblins/rat-like creatures..which apparently people though was him drawing them like they were israelites

      • 2 months ago
        Aspiring Investor

        To be fair this was also in tandem with that art error in Immortal Hulk with the star of david and "Jewery Store"

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        The funniest part is Ewing did a tweet thread to apologize for it and never said anything about antisemitism then donated to trannies and trees.

  71. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Just in case anyone still doesn't buy it.

    • 2 months ago
      DoctorGreen

      >homie was just born but he already was 41 years old
      the absolute state

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous Magnate

      >lived in my state
      Why?

  72. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I greatly regret opening this thread but the gist seems to be
    >older guy was thirsty
    >clumsily hit on 17 year old fan
    >didn't even get far
    >several years later
    >girl, now 21, decides to tell everyone he tried to groom her
    >he decides to kill himself

    So, did all his friends and family just instantly turn on him? I think that would drive a lot of people over the edge. Kind of suck if that's the case, I'd like to think the people around me would have my back no matter how badly I fricked up.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      No, his friends (ie Rugg) and family were still okay with him. Even after Rugg had to put out a statement he stopped by to check on Piskor and get him soup.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >No, his friends (ie Rugg) and family were still okay with him. Even after Rugg had to put out a statement he stopped by to check on Piskor and get him soup.

        That sounds awful, he must have had his eye on the exit then already.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          He says in his note that his friends and family probably knew this was the end for him. I'd imagine that's why Jim showed up to his to house check in on him.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >he stopped by to check on Piskor and get him soup
        Where is Rugg putting this stuff out?

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          It was per Ed's suicide letter

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            I'll take your word for it. I'm not reading that thing.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Where is Rugg putting this stuff out?
          from Ed's suicide note

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Christ.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Feel bad for Jim. He's gotta feel like shit right now. I bet he was forced to put out that statement by his agent and publishers.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      [...]

      Crazy how this spic's tweets are all about cancel culture being bad and taking people's livelyhoods away and how conservative creators are getting cancelled just for existing.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >So, did all his friends and family just instantly turn on him?
      Yes, this whole thing has played out more or less over the last week from beginning to now. And it wasn't just friends, he lost his entire career overnight.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >o, did all his friends and family just instantly turn on him?
      he had no friends or job outside the industry.

      when jim went and told him he had to pretend they weren't friends anymore, he more or less decided he was gonna end it.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        That's not what happened, John Del Arroz con pollo

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Going by his suicide note he decided to end it the day after the allegations. He wrote his will a week ago.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Going by his suicide note he decided to end it the day after the allegations.
          doubt it.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Read it. He wrote his last will and testament the very next day. The rest of the week just confirmed to him it was the right decision.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              >Cinemaphile at this point is just a twitter colony, so most of the people here just act like twitter morons.
              >And honestly, all places dedicated to the discussion of western media are like this now.
              >Everyone is catty, constantly waiting to take down some other creator, lots of annoying zoomer homosexuals with their annoying histrionics.
              >It's just embarrassing.
              >I think most of the zoomers into anime being third/second worlders gives them more perspective so they're less likely to care about all this stupid drama bullshit like their white counterparts since for a third worlder, drama would be someone getting murdered or dying in a flood or a tsunami, not some dude texting a 17 year old.
              I read it, and I straight up staying he made that part up in a highly emotional state.

  73. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    probably not the best time to ask but is X-men Grand Design worth reading? it's been on my shelf for a while

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Its ok but dont have a nice day over it

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Not really.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah it's pretty good for what it is.

  74. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    He had an outlet too....the anti-cancel culture rightoids would've accepted him after a single statement standing his ground. They fund kickstarters too so he would've been alright.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >mentally ill moronic golems on the left are organizing to get all your projects cancelled and are harassing your friends and family into getting away from you
      >better start pandering to the mentally ill moronic golems on the right
      I don't know, man.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Now you're finally understanding modern social media culture.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Joining the ranks of EVS and Eric July is a fate worse than death for any cartoonist with an ounce of self love

  75. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >actually real and not April fools
    WTF... On the one hand, who give a frick about Ed Piskor. On the other hand, motherfricker didn't even lay hands and only chatted up some roastie on the internet in a creepy way. Was that really worth a dogpile to the point it drove someone to suicide? Worst part is, he was probably dogpiled by a bunch of motherfrickers with so many skeletons in their closets they may as well have collectively larped as a coven of necromancers.

  76. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >killing yourself because of what some homosexuals think
    how?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      People usually develop suicidal ideation and they hang (no pun intended) by a thread for years, then something comes along and that thread snaps, and there's no logical reason for doing it, I've personally seen worse.

  77. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    https://www.webtoons.com/en/canvas/switchblade-shorties/full-moon-in-steel-valley-part-1-strip-26/viewer?title_no=885073&episode_no=90
    thoughts on his last comic?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I genuinely wish it didn't suck shit.
      Alas
      RIP Eddy P, he was actually a better youtuber than a writer, and that ended up being his downfall p much

  78. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Who?

  79. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    If his death makes that homosexual comic book trope sad. Then I am happy. The comic book trope is baby boomer Linkara who wants the Punisher banned and said Tim Drake was always gay despite what his creators said.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      His comics made that guy cry, so his death is a bad thing.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Linkara still alive
      The universe is cruel.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Have you seen his wife?

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          no, I didn't even know he was married

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      He's terminally depressed, of course he's overly sensible and possibly medicated.

  80. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I hope people don't constantly scream about this like when that one Japanese guy died. That was annoying af

  81. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Ed loved comics so much he chose death over exile. Who can say the same?

    He was a man, take him for all in all,
    I shall not look upon his like again.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Comics truly were this man's life. RIP Eddie P. Cartoonist Kayfabe forever.

  82. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Well I guess I'm not drawing that pic of Street Angel threatening Ed with her sword after all.
    I swear it was entirely in good humor.
    Was hoping this was the kind of thing we'd laugh at a year from now, guess you never know.

  83. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    What was the "(Redacted)" in the document?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Probably access to the part of the drive containing his Switchblade shorties data and other info that was relevant for it and his situation.

  84. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    This dude a member of the WildCats because he's gotta be Grifter?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Jon Del Arroz was shitting on Ed just a few days ago and now wants to pretend that he cares?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      What a fricking bottom feeding parasite. Just days ago he was posting (pic related) and now he wants to pretend like the left wing "whisper network" did it. Fricking Youtube grifters are going straight to Hell. Even the comments understand:
      >Dog you did several videos on the guy too. Don't try to blame some whisper network. This was egged on by everyone
      >You were attacking him two days ago and now you're acting like you were on his side?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Do people now have such a small memory that they forget shit like:
        >just a few days ago I was attacking this person
        Anyone who listens to grifter fricks is scum

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Disingenuous frick

  85. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    reminder to never talk to modern women.
    if you absolutely need a relationship just devote yourself to an uggo

  86. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    At the end of the day he was a shitty unoriginal artist but great youtuber who was lynched by the mob for daring to fly too close to the sun. RIP Ed you untalented but glorious bastard. May your gypsy curse upon your enemies come true.

  87. 2 months ago
    Anonymous
    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Gonna miss the shoot interviews. Ed and Jim were the only ones that actually got these guys to talk about the medium instead of asking lame fanboy questions.

  88. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Jim having to publicly abandon Ed was unofficial confirmation that Ed was never gonna work again

  89. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Even redditors are starting to think that the guy wasn't really a groomer. This has potential to become a wake up call for everyone who still has some braincells left.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Nah. It's just more ammo for political online shitflinging. No one will actually learn anything.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Sadly nothing will be learned from this and Ed won't be the last victim of the internet mob.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      He was clearly a groomer though.

  90. 2 months ago
    Fledgling Investor

    Farewell.

  91. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Poor guy. He should have looked at Chuggaconroy's situation and realized that this wasn't the end.

    Ah well, I hope Lady Emily finally cracks from the weight of her sins and puts us all of us out of her misery.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Chugga tried to kill himself too lmao

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Yes he did, but thankfully he had people in his life monitoring him. That's the saddest thing about Ed is his family foolishly left him alone for enough time to pull something like this. Getting checked into a looney pin like Chugga did probably saved his life and should be the default response to this sort of thing.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          There's still time for him to follow through!

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Nah, not really. The issue is Lady Emily is crying because she's constantly being harassed for what she did, meanwhile Chuggaconroy's audience keep asking him to come back. In these cancel situations the initial waves are always the most fierce but once they die down the rubberneckers leave because there's no fun. It's Lady Emily whose on Suicide Watch now because people who never knew she existed loathe her now and want her to die. It's the worm turning.

            >actual, unironic "muh legal age of consent 17yo is a CHILD you heckin PEDO"
            The absolute fricking state of Cinemaphilemblr.

            Anon, they don't. They just like using it as a tool to justify killing people or peoples deaths.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Emily is based, glad she btfo out Chugga. He was an annoying simp freak.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Women like her are the reason no one believes this bullshit anymore.
              Hope their happy in knowing real victims will never be believed.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >That's the saddest thing about Ed is his family foolishly left him alone for enough time to pull something like this.
          Ed's parents were trying to get him to come home.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Anon, in situations like this you have to be proactive. YOU have to go out to them.

  92. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    The absolute state of ped/co/

  93. 2 months ago
    Anonymous
  94. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Wonder how much of this internet mob bullshit would go away if it were made a felony to make accusations without the subject in question having been first convicted in criminal court.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      If there's more cases like these to come, I think it'll hit that point in the near-future.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      You can accuse people of stuff that isn't illegal you moron

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Frankly, such accusations should be criminalized anyway, unless the person being talked about has been convicted of a crime that's at least tangential to the accusation. I don't know who this guy is, nor much of anything about his life, but I've seen far too many people's lives, from all walks of life, get turned upside down from gossip mobs. It needs to stop.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          So you want people thrown in jail because they said "this guy was creepy to me here are the dms that make me think he is a creep"

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Don’t backpedal now butthole you’ve been calling him a pedo this whole time

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            I'm not just talking about accusations of sexual misconduct, we can easily include racism allegations, allegations of murder (Rittenhouse, Zimmerman, etc.), and other accusations like that.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      This is done by people who are equally fanatic and mentally ill, they're useful for the politics because they organize and attack people who the powers want out but don't want to get their hands dirty. All the influencers that got banned from youtube was because of mass complaining, it's what they do, they go over the net to find targets then try to cancel them.

  95. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I like all the wierdos here lusting for massive censorship laws that would kill the internet and sites like Cinemaphile and kiwi farms, where I know you Black folk hang out.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Afraid you won't be able to watch youtube anymore little jimmy?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Afraid that more pedos will kill themselves?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Isn't Kiwi farms a place where trannies, gays, and furries go to project their autistic quirks onto internet personalities?

  96. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >actual, unironic "muh legal age of consent 17yo is a CHILD you heckin PEDO"
    The absolute fricking state of Cinemaphilemblr.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      AOC there is 16

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Which makes 17 legal, yes.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          You have legal and moral confused. There was no crime committed, he just did some gross things.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Which makes 17 legal, yes.

      The only people using the age of consent argument are the people in favor of fricking high schoolers lmao everyone else is saying it's a moral issue not a legal one and aren't pointing at AOC

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >everyone else
        AKA a tiny minority.
        No one gives a frick about your personal morals you homosexual white zoomer, you're irrelevant, you're like 5% of the population.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        So
        >age gap is basically pedo grooming even if it's legal
        roasties then? That's even worse.

  97. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >morals

    lmao. your imaginary cloud boogeyman isn't real, relax

  98. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    https://bleedingcool.com/comics/md-bright-of-armor-wars-quantum-woody-and-icon-dies-aged-68/ weird this dude death reported on today too.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Bright was a pastor IIRC so his family probably wanted to have Easter weekend to process before
      Drew the best Transformers art ever(which is amazing considering the amount of artists to work on the franchise), designed the silver Centurion armor, then did Quantum and woody, awesome guy

  99. 2 months ago
    Anonymous
    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >thersh willsh besh no Edsh Pishkor visosh todaysh
      There, fixed it for lispy

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Wasn't someone posting his videos in the other threads? I was wondering if it was him.

  100. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    So what bothers me here, is nobody is talking about seeking casual sex vs an actual attempt at a mating strategy. Whether you think you're arguing about 'morals' or 'age of consent'. Frickers are all lost lmao

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >an actual attempt at a mating strategy.
      Who fricking talks like this?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Someone trying to introduce the very concept of marriage to a bunch of uneducated degenerates.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Or, more likely, a fatass andrew tate parody without the charisma it takes to actually traffic women so he just RPs about it.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        incel wannabe pederasts

  101. 2 months ago
    Anonymous Mogul

    >Morally wrong? Can I be arrested for that?
    >No? Ok, well thanks for letting me know anyway.

  102. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    https://www.instagram.com/reel/C5PItAxvrAq/
    Oh man it hurts seeing Rob sad.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Sad

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Rob's one of the good ones. The sad reality is, the same people who came after Ed would try to do the same to Rob if given the chance. There's no love or loyalty with people like that. They're literally just ghouls feasting on the dead.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Oh man it hurts seeing Rob sad.
      fricking hell this broke me

  103. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >bunch of fricking nerds arguing about "peak fertility"
    what is this thread.

  104. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >brand new accounts popped up on reddit to shill this
    >brand new accounts popped up on twitter to shill this
    >people posting their comics attacking Ed all over social media
    >all getting removed now

  105. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    This is what happens when your audience is made up of moronic white zoomers and the homosexuals who want to appeal to them, they'll gladly throw you under the bus for this kinda stuff.
    You reap what you sow, homie.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      His audience was Gen Xers

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Gen Xers who desperately want to appeal to zoomers, as described by "and the homosexuals who want to appeal to them."
        Unfortunately, that's most Gen Xers in the comic industry, to which I say yet again, you reap what you sow, homie.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          No, just normal Gen Xers. Zoomers don't give a shit about comics.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >No, just normal Gen Xers.
            Nah, the Gen Xers into comics are far from normal.
            They tend to be even bigger homosexuals than your average boomer.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous Mogul

        Same shit.

        This is what happens when your audience is made up of moronic white zoomers and the homosexuals who want to appeal to them, they'll gladly throw you under the bus for this kinda stuff.
        You reap what you sow, homie.

        This is also correct, don't rely on your audience unless they've shown to ride or die consistently with you. People who care about "Muh accusations" are the worst and will throw you into a pit if they could.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      in what world do zoomers at large give a shit about western comics?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      zoomers don't read comics wtf are you on about

  106. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Vindictive c**ts.

  107. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Any more pics of big titty taff

  108. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Everyone in this thread needs to seek God. I've never seen such a tone deaf group of sanctimonious scumbags regarding any topic and I've been coming to this site for nearly 20 years.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >I will not state my position, but frick everyone.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I've stated my opinion. What he did was very dumb, but didn't warrant losing his life, career, peers and friends over. Internet hucksters were set out to destroy his life for clout and it ended with his life.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      God isn't real, but the fear of judgment shouldn't be what stops you from behaving like a piece of shit and having some decency and respect for others. Sadly, the only thing that separates some people from animals is that fear.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        *tips fedora*

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Morality is based around the fact that there's a higher power than you out there.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Morals have nothing to do with it. Don't do stupid shit that would get you fired, evicted, or punched in the face. It's pretty simple.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            It has everything to do with it.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              You don't need a 2,000 year old book to tell you that it's bad to steal shit or cheat on your best friend's wife.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Why is it bad though?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Because if you get caught cheating, you'll lose your friend. And if you get caught stealing, you'll go to jail.

                Good news though, if you get away with it at least you won't go to Hell!

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                You haven't explained why those things are considered bad. Just that you will be punished for doing them.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                There is no "good" or "bad". Just actions and reactions. Don't do the "bad" things or face the consequences. Human self-preservation should be enough to carry you through life, you don't need a book of nursery rhymes to hold your hand. Even an animal knows this.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >There is no "good" or "bad"
                >Don't do the "bad"
                Did you even bother to read your own post?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                "bad" is your word, not mine. Hence the quotes. Why do you need to be told what things are "good" and what things are "bad"? Serious question.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                I never once said good or bad, I mentioned morality. And yes, human morality is based on there being a higher power and has been for thousands of years. Laws weren't created out of nothing.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                You mean the belief in a higher power, not the actual existence of one. Because there's no such thing as God.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                You don't know that for sure.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                I have no proof, but I am 100% confident in this, yes.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >I have no proof
                Noted.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >make one mistake and your life is over
                Man, it'd be funny to look at your life under a microscope. Anonymity is a fricking blessing for some people.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                I'm in defense of Ed Piskor. I think you lost track of the conversation.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                My bad.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Don't do stupid shit that would get you fired, evicted, or punched in the face.
            haha so true bro, anyway remember that girl you liked 20 years ago? Well now she thinks you were giving her the ick, so prepare to have your life ruined.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          if you need the fear of a god to stop you from being a piece of shit you're probably just actually a piece of shit deep down.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            What makes immoral actions immoral?

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              we have laws so society doesn't fall apart homie. certain groups get a rougher deal and rich people get away with more so the system isn't perfect but we have laws and the fear of jail to stop people from being psychos and scumbags. its called a conscience. if you don't have one you're probably mentally ill.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Man, it's depressing talking to zoomers. How is your generations so low IQ?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                i'm 31. you seriously can't comprehend what kind of actions separates a normal person from a criminal? do you think everyone is a secret sociopath with no moral compass? if that was the case society wouldn't function.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Yes, but why do humans have a moral compass and where does it come from?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >do you think everyone is a secret sociopath with no moral compass? if that was the case society wouldn't function.
                Have you seen the state of America these days? We are living in peak clown culture where everyone commits crimes and life is getting worse, religion here is a joke now. Even if you commit a crime, if you're a POC, you'll easily get bailed and you get to do it again.
                >inb4 "no, that's not true"
                Look up the Kia Boys from my city and watch a video of them, they're literally pointing out how since they're underage, they get out, and then they keep repeating the process. If religion wasn't considered a joke here, they'd be punished

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >we have laws so society doesn't fall apart homie.
                Yeah, shitty ones where everyone gets to be an butthole through different means

                Is it really so bad?

                Western women are a lost cause. I hope we go the way of South Korea's birthrate

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                the average person isn't terminally online and mentally ill. don't interact with mentally ill bpd women. WOW that was hard.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >the average person isn't terminally online and mentally ill.
                lol. Keep coping, because the internet brainrot is slipping into reality

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >I hope we go the way of South Korea's birthrate
                No, first we need to have a scandal that mirrors theirs

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Morality is based around the fact that there's a higher power than you out there.
          You can't prove there is a higher power, so it can't be a fact. You are thinking of faith. You can have faith that other people will behave in a way that is moral, it has nothing to do with belief in god.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      God isn't real. Happy Easter

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        When you're faced with your own mortality you'll be singing a different tune.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        You guys are no fun.

  109. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    No sticky huh?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      it would just be a shitshow.

  110. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    If you're engaging with an anonymous chud about the age of consent, you have already lost

  111. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    What way to start a month.

  112. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Come on mods, don't be c**ts. Put a sticky on this thread.

  113. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I literally never heard of cartoonist kayfabe or seen Cinemaphile discuss cartoonist kayfabe until last week and I have been browsing this board everyday for like 8 years. I know a man is dead so I'm trying not to be an butthole when I say this, why should anyone care?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >I literally never heard of cartoonist kayfabe or seen Cinemaphile discuss cartoonist kayfabe until last week

      People do talk about it sometimes over the past few years, you just missed the threads

  114. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Amen.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Looks like resetera. The vilest, most twisted hive of inhuman, unempathetic scum on the internet.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      What a bunch of despicable ghouls

  115. 2 months ago
    Anonymous
  116. 2 months ago
    Anonymous
    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      https://twitter.com/s_k_hanselmann/status/1774943499995189574

      Based Simon
      I'm sure the kiwizoomers will try to come for him too, if they're not already.

  117. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    https://twitter.com/s_k_hanselmann/status/1774943499995189574

  118. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    This guy really needed some mental help. Imagine killing yourself over fricking funnybooks.

  119. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Leftists are sociopaths

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Literally both sides attacked him.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Both sides are sociopaths.

  120. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Is it really so bad?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      ....you know rereading this with his suicide note in mind changes everything basically how "partners in crime" and "naughty girl" referring to her art rather than sex

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I heard about the "Are you 17 or 18" thing without seeing the screenshot. It sounds bad out of context, but if you look at the screenshot he's just saying basically that her skill level at 17 smokes his skill level at the same age.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous Mogul

      >YOUNG GIRLS
      >LITTLE GIRLS
      >17 YEAR OLD LITERAL CHILDREN ABOVE THE AGE OF CONSENT WITH breasts AND ASSES AND HAIRY c**tS WHO MENSTRUATE
      >YOU PEDO
      Bring the fricking bombs.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Are you 17 or 18? Imma be so mad if you say 17 because this crushes me at that age
      Come the frick on lmao

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        He's literally just complimenting her skill at such a young age

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          lol that's certainly what he was trying to make it look like for plausible deniability
          and then he also called her his partner in crime
          and also said she was a naughty girl
          and also wanted to have her sleepover
          i'm sure there were perfectly rational explanations for all that and he definitely wasn't trying to skirt the line
          get fricking real

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            The partner in crime conversations she posted even mentioned Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas. Like there is fricking context to the conversation.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Context is for adults. Expecting a 17 year old to not think you are being a creep is stupid. A major reason to leave teens alone is that they're all drama hungry morons. Especially high school girls. Date someone old enough to drink

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Posts like this are why I hope WW3 kicks off and every zoomer like this gets drafted.
                I want to laugh at webms of you getting blown the frick up by drones.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                I was talking about the context of that comment. Partner in crime wasn't anything salicious, it was literally in the context of what they were talking about.
                >https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fear_and_Loathing_in_Las_Vegas_(film)
                You're just moronic.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                What I'm saying is that it doesn't matter. You can't trust a dumb kid to read what you say in the best of light or expect high school girls raised on cancel culture to not try and humilate you for being a 40 year old creep.

                Date hags. I promise it's better.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                And I am not talking about any of that at all. There was still context, that's all. And you were denying it.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                I wasn't denying it. I was saying it didn't matter because the person he was talking with was an undeveloped moron. It's like if someone juggling chainsaws cut their arms off and you say "he was just juggling"--but the issue is the chainsaws. Frick with fire you get burned. Hit on 17 year old art students, you're just asking for trouble.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >hags
                Based. But then again I'm young so 10+ over me is still youthful enough. They like doing the kinky shit girls my age would laugh at

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            That's some copium there

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            The b***h looks older than he did

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              >The b***h looks older than he did
              That's because Uncle Ed was a manlet

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Who cares if he was trying to frick her? She was of legal age. It’s gay not to want to frick a hot 17 year old. If you don’t want to frick hot young pussy you’re either a gay or you’re virtue signaling

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            That's just you reading between the lines, it proves nothing except that he was socially moronic.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >and then he also called her his partner in crime
            Because Ed was an edgelord and wanted to work with her on art
            >and also said she was a naughty girl
            Because she had mentioned herself doing a small crime prior
            >and also wanted to have her sleepover
            Because he did that all the time before COVID with other artists for collabs, none of it for sexual reasons

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      yea it was just a 40 year old wanting to have a sleepover with a 17 year old, what's the big deal?
      he probably wanted to make a pillow fort

      get real, any normal adult can't even fricking stand to be around some twerp ass teenagers, they're goddamn annoying

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I just killed a goat inside a pentagram so you would be raped by 5 of the blackest fricking gorilla african fellows from chicago today.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          sick, thanks bud

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        You forget Piskor was a fricking dork, he would have probably made her watch Ninja Scroll on VHS or some shit

  121. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Damn, it's real, their family just confirmed the funeral. He really did it, no longer a rumor. Absolutely insane the outcome of all of this.

  122. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    All these literally whos doing videos, is something to see.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I'm reporting every video I see on it.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        https://www.youtube.com/shorts/CftGaJDRVQo
        he did a short too.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Reported it too.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >suicide is not logical
          >but I am going to ramble about how it makes no sense

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >SOOO TRAGIC
          >I am infuriated by this
          >BUT SOOO TRAGIC

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I'm only interested in seeing Razorfist shit on everyone involved, including the comicsgaters.

  123. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Hard to fathom what circumstances could lead to listening to Rob Liefeld read a suicide note but here we are.

  124. 2 months ago
    Anonymous
    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Dude should have just moved to Japan

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        That's what I was thinking, strange outcome.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      that oddly blunt coming from a japanese women

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      that oddly blunt coming from a japanese women

      Japanese is just a very blunt language, but it does sound like she's taking out the katana to wreak a blood trail of vengeance.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      [...]
      Japanese is just a very blunt language, but it does sound like she's taking out the katana to wreak a blood trail of vengeance.

      that oddly blunt coming from a japanese women

      Reminder she did Red Room covers

      I heard about the "Are you 17 or 18" thing without seeing the screenshot. It sounds bad out of context, but if you look at the screenshot he's just saying basically that her skill level at 17 smokes his skill level at the same age.

      Even Ed himself admitted the DMs looked very, VERY bad when at face value and could be misconstrued as predatory
      Part of me thinks outside of those people he directly named he'd be more forgiving to those who thought the worst of him given the circumstances
      Oh who am I kidding, he'd hate Cinemaphile for jumping on the bandwagon

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Reminder she did Red Room covers
        Like it's some bad thing or something? What the frick is that supposed to mean?
        >x comic book is bad therefore these people should be removed from the face the earth!
        have a nice day today.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Like it's some bad thing or something? What the frick is that supposed to mean?
          Nothing
          I just thought it was neat and felt like sharing it because I like her art and think it compliments Ed's designs

  125. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    He could have moved on from this, sell his stuff and change to another place, I don't think anyone other than leftists wanted him to do this. This is more depression from his midlife crisis, seeing his family with kids and he still being single probably didn't help.

  126. 2 months ago
    Anonymous
    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      what's Alex De Campi biggest claim to fame? the only thing i can she done recently is a 2000AD strip that is pretty shit

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        the horrible Bladerunner cartoon on adult swim

  127. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    And indies wonder why nobody buys their shit.

  128. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's wild no one who talked insanely bad about him commented but Dorkin who seem to be mind broken by it.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Dorkin barely even talked shit.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        True but he still seem broken up about it.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Because Dorkin is a guy who is self-loathing and had suicidal thoughts before. He is the only one I've seen who feels legit guilt over it.

      The others are grifting vultures blaming the other political side to avoid blame

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Dorkin's take was quite mild and even criticising some of the criticism.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Dorkin unlike most of the people here has done his work in therapy.

        Dorkin has tried to kill himself at least once already. Naming him in a note like this is kinda cruel

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          I hope he tries again and pulls it off this time.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Ed was in a lot of pain and lashing out, he knew that would sting

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Ed Piskor said the guy is a piece of shit so I believe him. There's no reason to not be galvanized against these pieces of shit now.

          At the same time people here went out their way to archive videos.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >said the guy is a piece of shit
            No he didn't. He said he hopes Evan has his own skeletons and gets to feel the same way someday.

            I know you want to justify a crusade, but frick off.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Did this guy frick you just right or something? I don't know him, but I know he's a c**t. His speaking out out Ed Piskor is probably just him projecting his own evil bullshit onto someone else. Hopefully he offs himself.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                See

                Evan Dorkin said:
                >Creative person outed as someone who caused actual harm to actual people in the actual world & you respond w/a review of their work. Or let everyone know you always knew something was up bc you're very smart. Delete that shit. It shows the judgement and maturity of a wiffle ball
                He take was pretty mild compared to others.

                I wasn't born yesterday. Hop off your witch hunt shit.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >I don't know him, but I know he's a c**t.
                Of all the self-owns I've read this week, this is a gem

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Ed Piskor said the guy is a piece of shit so I believe him
            you don't need to believe him, just read his zine essays.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          committing suicide when you have friends and family is kinda cruel
          trying to bang 17 year olds when you're 40 is kinda cruel
          it's almost like this dude was trash

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Evan Dorkin has serious issus. Psychological, maybe psychiatric ones even. You can see him chimping out on real time on his instagram stories sometimes. The rage you see in his work, hell, probably even down to his linework, is not a coincidence.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Dorkin unlike most of the people here has done his work in therapy.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      He's the only person Ed name-dropped who is both not a drama prostitute and self conscious enough to think it's actually his fault. The drive by makes it a lot harder for me to sympathize with Ed.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      of course, he's the only c**t in the industry that hasn't actually benefitted from being a c**t.

  129. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Ed love of the medium is what missing with most these people, he didn't care about culture wars or any other nonsense, he just loved comics.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Ed love of the medium is what missing with most these people, he didn't care about culture wars or any other nonsense, he just loved comics.
      Comics is a small pool and he pissed in it. If it was someone everyone liked, there wouldn't have been such a dogpile. You reap what you sow

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        How dare this man have standards and not just suck off every hack working at DC and Marvel

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >How dare this man have standards and not just suck off every hack working at DC and Marvel
          Farting in an elevator is not the free speech issue you think it is

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      This is why to me he was more a YouTuber than a comic artist.
      His videos were always really good.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Life is shit and people are lonely and we all miss shooting the shit with some friends. That is all it ever was and so many people took it too seriously to attack people for some opinions.

  130. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Sad news. Rest in peace, Ed.

  131. 2 months ago
    Anonymous
  132. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    HA another one

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      If Jim left comics out of disgust, I wouldn't blame him

      WHO THE FRICK ARE THESE PEOPLE!?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >thumbnail
      Oh, that one checks out. Makes sense for a fricking moolie to be acting that way.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      CARTOON KAYFABE
      JIM RUB
      WIZ-ARD MAGAZEEE

  133. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    someone build me a rocket and get me off of this shit-ass world

  134. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Oh lord is this gonna cause comicsgate 2.0?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      A Comicsgate 2 where it's Cartoonist Kayfabe supporters vs SJWs and the OG Comicsgate?

      This sounds like one of those Big 2 event comics where they keep trying to escalate

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Kayfabe supporters actually spend their free time reading comics so I’m sure the sjws and comicsgate will win that war

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Sadly situations like this require equal levels of unhinged autism and pettiness

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Getting rid of both cancers at once, cleaning the place in favor of people who want to read, learn and make fun comics in the process
        Sound like a good premise.
        Though I think this is already happening.
        All the actual big name comic artists who befriended Ed through the channel are mourning the loss and calling out the bullshit on Twitter & IG literally right now.
        The weird schizoid editors can't just blacklist everyone off the industry because of this.
        Also, the people Ed named in his suicide note are already persona non grata at this point. Specially Villalobos. Fat fricker was alogging hard since day one of the channel and everyone knows it. He probably shot ropes when the allegations popped in.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          left is blaming right, right is blaming left
          and fans of Piskor are fricking pissed at both sides

          https://twitter.com/Bouldergreg/status/1774954587667173804
          https://twitter.com/Mrmeetee/status/1774956477096374400
          https://twitter.com/AdamSaturdayRPC/status/1774951114753949831

  135. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Evan Dorkin said:
    >Creative person outed as someone who caused actual harm to actual people in the actual world & you respond w/a review of their work. Or let everyone know you always knew something was up bc you're very smart. Delete that shit. It shows the judgement and maturity of a wiffle ball
    He take was pretty mild compared to others.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      He also said

  136. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    RIP Ed.

  137. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Oh boy HERE IT COMES it's like Ed knew this would start a fire.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      It should.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      The fire rises.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Oh yippee more ooga booga culture war my team is based yours is peepee poopoo bullshit which accomplishes absolutely nothing but radicalizing even more fodder for the corporate meat grinder.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I'll gladly become a SJW if they can get this fat moron to kill himself as well

  138. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    F. I suppose, why is no one posting his stuff?

  139. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I hope Jim Rugg is handling this okay. Seems like a kind hearted fellow.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah he's gotta feel like shit right now.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah he's gotta feel like shit right now.

      I think he's just gonna quit
      I can't blame him

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I think he's crying his eyes out right now. He's a bleeding heart in a good way, and even more of a nerd than Ed in many ways, but with enough social abilities to function normally. He lost his brother.

      I lost my best friend to suicide 15 years go. Every single day I still think about him. It haunts me. I feel so much for Jim right now.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Possibly the last person who saw him alive
      >Mentioned in the note as the only one who did anything to help
      For the rest of his life Jim is going to be tortured by thoughts about what he could have done to save Ed even if none of this is on him.

  140. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    more WHOs? some wannabe Jim Balent.

  141. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    But what about Ed's VICTIMS??? What about their feelings right now???

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Molly said Ed did nothing physically wrong and she didn't want him cancelled.
      One woman kept talking with Ed and slept with him twice despite her claims about him.
      The other woman kept talking to Ed even after her claims too.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Is Molly D the same one as Molly Wright? I don't understand anything anymore.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Molly Dwyer is the 21 year old who Ed talked to her at 17.

          Molly Wright is the older woman who claimed Ed wanted a blowjob in exchange for an agents number. Ed alleged they had a sexual relationship which she initiated. But it is factually correct to say, she kept talking to him despite that claim.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            I get it now, was a bit confused reading his suicide note and there's two Molly's, only seen the photos of Molly D and thought it was the same one and D was her middle name.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      How they feel will not necessarily reflect your own intentions

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >VICTIMS
      was any allegation proven in a court of law?
      if not it is just more cancel mob weaponizing social media and using defamation and fake allegations to cancel and remove people they don't like.

      it happened to Alec Hollowka too, it can happen to anyone.

  142. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Oh man one of IDOLS is talking about.

  143. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    two weeks ago I was watching him talking about toriyama, now this prostitute killed him
    I hate social media
    delete social media
    deleted twitter
    make it all illegal

  144. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I have no idea who Ed Piskor is (was?) nor do I know most of the names in this thread. Am I out of touch or are you all fussing over a bunch of literal whos?

  145. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

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    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Let this end, anon. Let him rest in peace.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        What's the point? He's dead, no one that pushed him over the edge will take responsibility, show's over.

        RIP

        Frick you. We've had an entire week of you homosexuals dancing on Ed Piskor's grave.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          I am not dancing on his grave, I am doing the OPPOSITE. I am saying let the thread end and don't turn it into a general. Frick you anon, I was doing the opposite.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Same here.

            [...]
            Frick you. We've had an entire week of you homosexuals dancing on Ed Piskor's grave.

            I'm sure he would be honored of you white knighting against some nobody anons on Cinemaphile posthumously.

            Get a life. Maybe combat the c**ts that doxxed and harrassed him on Twitter where they are distinguishable by name instead of posting into the anonymous funny picture void if you're not a coward.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              I'm doing both. Sorry you're feeling insecure.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >NOOO DON'T TALK ABOUT US MURDERING AN INNOCENT MAN AGAIN, LET US CANCEL PEOPLE ALONE.

        Why? if something we need to raise awareness of how awful the woke mob actually is.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >woke
          The CGers/conservatives attacked him too.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Those fricking morons don’t care about comics at all. All they care about is the culture war and anyone that isn’t on the frontlines with them is against them. They adore their opposition. They resent anyone who is neutral of these homosexual little cliques

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Both sides attacked him. And many others piled in.

            >BUT LE BOTH SIDES
            yeah sure whatever you homosexuals say, we know is not the first time the woke mob have harassed people over mere allegations and not the first person who dies because of it.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              There is literally evidence ITT from people. EVS tweets, youtubers turning on a dime.

              It was both sides.

              Jon Del Arroz had an article here:
              https://twitter.com/fandompulse/status/1772266484351537530
              In the article he was also accusing Ed of being part of the Whisper Network.

              And then he's posting
              https://twitter.com/jondelarroz/status/1774890239062126606

              [...]

              At worst he was inappropriate. This whole situation happened not because of these allegations but because Ed had seemingly pissed everyone off:
              >CGers hated him because he didn't want to be political or shill their books. They claimed he had fobbed people off from Dan Fraga to Noah Van Sciver but this is disputed.
              >Some left wingers hated him for cultural appropriation or because he didn't talk up the modern industry or their books.
              >Some people hated his attitude or use of the word jobbers/hacks to describe some industry artists.
              >Some people didn't like the way the channel was going.
              >Loads of people seemingly took his attitude the wrong way, rather than seeing it as "shooting the shit" with a buddy, they saw him like he was an egotist who produced bad work shitting on others.
              This industry is fricking mental.

              Remember what happened to Sean Gordon Murphy?
              >Made a cover for a CGer so left wing twitter came at him, he realised his mistake and had the cover pulled.
              >His tweets around the BLM were not good enough for them so they came at him again.
              >He supported the trans creator Magdalene Visaggio.
              >Asked for help when people were attacking him.
              >Mags accused him of love bombing.
              >Lovebombing is when someone levels attention/affection on someone with the intent of manipulating them.
              >Sean is married and Mags is autistic so probably took things the wrong way.
              >Dude ended up getting rid of social media.
              Remember James Harvey?
              >Wrote a comic for Fantagraphics.
              >Partner stated the grooming in the comic story was real and he did it to her.
              >Fantagraphics pulled the comic and apologised.
              >She was 24 when they met and he was 30!

              >Someone on Reddit made a comic with Ed and these other guys in it and the comic also featured creators actually convicted for sex crimes as if they had done anything similar!
              Frick this industry. Frick social media. Frick the drama obsession.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Your pussy ass brothers in comicsgate were all calling him a groomer. They joined the lefty pile on because Piskor wasn’t a right wing culture warrior

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Both sides attacked him. And many others piled in.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            It wasn't even that bad as comic cancellations go. He could have easily rode it out.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              His art show was cancelled. He lost a comics deal. No one was defending him. He was doxxed by the local news.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                He could have got another art show down the line. He could self publish. He always bragged how much money he made, just chill and self publish for awhile. No one would have cared about this in a month.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Per his suicide note it seems like there was more to it than the work. He really loved comics and talking about them. His job and status as a creator put him in a position to have conversations with people he considered kindred spirits. This fiasco ruined that for him.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      What's the point? He's dead, no one that pushed him over the edge will take responsibility, show's over.

      RIP

  146. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Fricking crazy. I was just watching a video they did on Love and Rockets a few days ago and now it's just over. They never even got that Otomo interview.

  147. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Ethan Van Sciver is a ginormous homosexual and it’s a god damn shame out of all the cartoonist that would kill themselves it wasn’t him

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      it amazes me that he and Noah are brothers.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Thanksgiving dinner must be crazy.

  148. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    ouch

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