Five reasons Primer is the ultimate time travel kino
>1. It's not the squiggle chart
Anyone who thinks more lines on a timeline explanation chart equals a better film is delusional
>2. The low budget helps
No big stars, no special effects, the film is set in a generic everytown. Nothing prepares the viewer for what's about to unfold.
>3. Shane Carruth and David Sullivan
They are everymen, perfect in their roles. They are engineers and they act like intelligent people. They don't insult anyone's intelligence. Relatable.
>4. Minimalist soundtrack
Relates to the budget, but the soundtrack often cues the audience what to feel. In this film, there are gaps with no soundtrack where tension rises. Brilliant!
>5. Innovation
Nobody has ever seen time travel done exactly this way.
Probably from Shane himself on /misc/:
>The chart is endearing but ultimately irrelevant. Primer is about making you think you know the rules, then changing the rules. We didn't want you to make that chart, we wanted to convey that feeling that something like that chart existed, and you couldn't figure it out. For every autist who figured out that chart, there were thousands of normies who felt that thrill that the rules had been redefined. That is the ultimate victory of Primer.
Pretentious garbage
what is the pretense?
The methods of time travel are stupid even by the standards of other time travel movies, for one small thing.
Completely backwards. Every other movie is retarded when it comes to time travel. This movie is famous for being the exception.
Wrong. Time travel is only good when it's power fantasy nonsense. This is why Back to the Future and Terminator are the only good time travel movies. Everything else is mopey bullshit.
you can suck my dick and if i dont get dubs ill be piissseedd
>mopey
>retards always have to work their adolescent emotions into their whiny critiques
Well, this movie is good, so your assertion is wrong.
Wrong. Your penis is only good when it's pure fantasy nonesense. This is why your small penis and small balls are the only real time travel movie because that look like kids genitals. Everyhting else is a false bulshit
It insists upon itself
>277▶
I’ve seen every single one multiple times…
… except Primer.
I watched Primer once and concluded it was the WORST time loop/travel movie I’ve ever seen. Boring, unsatisfying garbage that doesn’t explain a god damn thing.
In fact, it’s probably in my top 5 worst movies of all time.
>Five reasons Primer is the ultimate time travel kino
i like everything about primer
i like the idea
i like the charicters
i like the stunted story
i like the mystery*also the story what the fuck happend i watched that bitch twice and would struggle to explain the idea of the plot
i liked the simplistic complexity &read above
i liked the themes read above open to my imagination I GUESSS lmao
i liked it all
that being said the theme carried it
the cinimatography is medicore albeit servicable *(read amazing for the budget
the dialogue is passable albient enhanced &theme chads we won
great film they struck lucky lightning
tldr this film should be bad but it is amazing take that however you will its a must watch
>Interstellar is my favorite movie. I am very highq
ok but why did they both start fucking each other over?
Time travel/time loop movies are my all time favorite genre.
I’ve seen every single one multiple times…
… except Primer.
I watched Primer once and concluded it was the WORST time loop/travel movie I’ve ever seen. Boring, unsatisfying garbage that doesn’t explain a god damn thing.
In fact, it’s probably in my top 5 worst movies of all time.
magnificent self-own. just a beautiful, distilled advertisement for your own stupidity
>that doesn’t explain a god damn thing.
found the capeshitter
>Boring
zoom zoom
The sets and props were the best part. Looked exactly like the actual engineering labs I've been in. No other movie has gotten this right, they're all too sleek and flashy.
I liked Dark until the alternate reality bullshit. How else would time travel work that's literally the only realistic way.
it's a great little personal story
very focused and efficient
Cool idea but terrible execution
wrong the execution is niche and somewhat perfect immagine another primer.... ill wait your childrens children will stop being contrarian
Can't film any scene with 2 version of the same characters because of budget limitations
There's a scene at night by a fountain that is super grainy and has horrendous sound
you cannot point to a singular great thing about primer and yet.........
Cool idea, inspired execution with next to no budget. Shane is borderline genius, too bad he's actual insane.
I didn't read, OP. BUT that is only because I KNOW Primer is the ultimate time travel kino and don't need any further confirmation.
SHANE PLEASE POST
resoviour time travel
its 100% certified
explain the significance of them stopping the ex boyfriend with the shotgun? what was the point of it? aaron seemed to be the one who cared about doing it the most, but it was abe's own girlfriend.
I think Abe agreed to help him the plan because he felt bad lying to him about the box or something. They did all kinds of dumb shit, like got in the box to stop noisy kids so their future selves could sleep in.
Realistically, what else can they use the box for besides stopping crazy gunmen and making money? not a whole lot. I guess Aaron really wanted to feel like a hero for some reason.
Well Arron moves to France to make a giant box for their government or something. Using the box for military purposes would be like TENET.
I love this movie and it's one of the top 10 I've ever seen just from the sheer inventiveness of it.
But I can't help but assume it's reddit because people think it makes them smart if they watch it. Sort of like inception
read 'a topiary'
read 'a topiary'
read 'a topiary'
time and time again you have been promised adventure and have never found it
I tried
i didnt fucking get it
so the aliens were made of tupperware discs? like wtf is going on?
also i gave up about half way, didnt go all the way to the end
I hope some jap incel animates it one day
Its not a traditional alien intelligence. Its more like biology. Just how your DNA contains instructions to build increasingly complex structures, the process just scales up until something intelligent enough to build choruses comes along. Then maybe the choruses start working on the next thing.
>time and time again you have been promised adventure and have never found it
Kino. We need more work out of the primer guy. Everything he's made is good
>We need more work out of the primer guy.
About that...
I liked Primer because of the setting. It's that same comfy little yank town as Memento. Love places like that in films. Really should move to one of those one day.
Think Primer was somewhere in Texas.
It's the nowheresville aspect I like. Just a sleepy little town which is distinctly American but that's the only distinguishing feature. I've lived in the UK, China, Korea, Japan but I really want to find that little kind of town to settle down.
So it's basically about them being stuck in a endless loop right? Or at least, constantly creating repeating timelines forever. Go in the box, come out, go back in the box. One person goes ahead to the future, but the person who originally travelled into the future has to go back, and then avoid their future self, who has to go back, and so on forever
i thought he trapped his friend
No. No, man, no. No one is "stuck" doing anything. The Abe and Aaron iteration we follow are, by the end, at the start of Abe and Aaron building boxes. Abe can stop them or not, but there's no more repetition than dropping a stylus in an earlier groove. If he never goes back again, then that's it. He'll just go on as a copy of a dude in the world.
Now Aaron on the other hand is obviously planning something. You don't build either a warehouse-sized box or a warehouse full of boxes unless you're planning to send back something very large or numerous.
Shane?
>invent Time Machine
>suddenly presented with chance to foil a murder
Its possible Aaron engineered the danger as well. Aaron right away is shown getting a little nuts over fucking with reality. What's money? That's nothing for them.
Yeah their world had already been compromised. This movie is fuckin sick
Primer is good. upstream color is cool too. If Shane is here please make more kino, thanks.
>Upstream Color
I regret that I tried to watch it as a dumb weed kid with my dumb weed friends. It almost certainly deserved better. Maybe Primer needs another shot, too — I hardly remember anything about it.
>I regret that I tried to watch it as a dumb weed kid with my dumb weed friends.
I watched it with my brother while we were high. We still enjoyed it, but mostly because of how weird it is, not that we understood any of it. I should give it another rewatch.
its all one big metaphor for a codependent relationship
The Sekimeiya is the ultimate time travel story, despite some flaws.
>Aaron invites his cousin to the party
>cousins friend shows up and shoots Rachel fatally
>Aaron knows he caused this and has to come back to fix it. He lies to abe "no, he doesn't fire" (looks very guilty and shifty as he says this) because he knows Abe would rather let her die than fuck with causality
>at some point Thomas Granger figured out what happened and tried to go back too after following the boys or Aaron told him how
It's the only thing that makes sense
>>at some point Thomas Granger figured out what happened and tried to go back too after following the boys or Aaron told him how
Why did Granger pass out then? It took many time travel trips for Aaron to get blood coming from his ear. Odds are Granger just travelled once.
He had a beard. He might have been in there for days. Plus the machine itself fucks you up the longer you use it so why not the longer you are in it, too?
Primer is good but it's overrated by STEMfags who want to think they're smarter than they are.
i feel like one guy is just shilling a film no one wants to see
interesting
i love you shane, i need just one more shane kino in my life please i have been watching and waiting for decades
It's good, but there's lots of dumb shit
>they don't buy lotto tickets because "dude, the lotto is on Saturday which is like 5 days away", yeah much better to fuck up the timelines then to wait 5 days
>main character literally said to the other character "you're just jealous of my wife and her son"
>"lets punch our ex-boss in the face" and undo it with time travel
>your hand writing gets messy because youre an anonoly from a different timeline and the universe is trying to get rid of you
LMAO literally low iq retarded magic back to the future time travel logic
No. Their hand writing gets worse because early in the film both Abe and Aaron put their hands over the early anti-gravity thing that they made which would become the time machine. Their hands were out of time sync with the rest of their bodies.
>Their hands were out of time sync with the rest of their bodies.
Holy shit this is even more retarded
It's a time travel movie, they are all retarded. This one is just a little smarter than the rest.
Nope, plenty of time travel movies with better logic that doesn't involve magic. Primer is literally Terminator Genisys levels of stupid.
Name two
Bill and Ted and Timecrimes.
>Timecrimes
Yeah, that's smart
>dude, there just happens to be a working time travel lab just past your backyard!
>dude, there just happens to be a working time travel lab just past your backyard!
yeah, and? theres 9 billion people on the planet and 1 guy happens to have a time travel lab behind his house. of course theyre not gonna make a movie about the 9 billion people who dont have a time travel lab behind their house.
>yeah, and? theres 9 billion people on the planet and 1 guy happens to have a time travel lab behind his house.
This proves that it's not a smart movie. It's just as fucking stupid as the other time travel movies. At least in Primer they are scientists that invent their machine. In Timecrimes the guy just wanders 20 feet from his property and a time travel lab is just there for some reason. In reality such a building would be behind a fortress of walls and guards.
>Bill and Ted
Had time travel, but not a time travel movie
>Timecrimes
okay but worse than Primer in every way
>Nope, plenty of time travel movies with better logic that doesn't involve magic.
There's nothing "magic" about it you dumb gay. They put their hands on some insane experimental anti gravity thing and it fucked up their hand writing as they used the machine more and more. Name a few of these smarter time travel movies.
Wait, really? I thought the time travel process just caused progressive nerve damage and was fucking up their motor control the more they used it.
are you supposed to read the chart before rewatching, so you know whats coming and can look out for it and analyze it as it happens, or rewatch then read the chart, so the pieces come together afterwards in reflection?
the charts are stupid. If you want a real break down of everything you have to watch the london city girl video.
look at the chart after so you can try and figure it out the first time, I don't even really get it with the chart after 2 viewings
I explained earlier today in another thread; No, the charts don't mean anything unless you can't grasp the immediate narrative behind the iterations we're being shown. Primer has an unreliable narrator, and the "true" events and consequences are inherently unknowable.
There is no chart. Shane Carruth has no idea what happened, so you can be sure as shit neither does some redditor.
That's an old fan theory. This was never said outright. It could also have something to with symmetry breaking. Recall that the weeble, then the men, are cycling between points and B in a causal loop, then violating one of the cycles by "getting out" halfway. This could have profound effects on things like bodily orientation.
>the ultimate time travel kino
*blocks your path*
do you guys think shane would kill baby hitler or help him
Why do you think he was building that big one at the end?
could the technology be used for longer than 6 hours or whatever?
My dad's a professor, so I got taken to see this at a college film festival when I was like 8. Didn't understand it at all, and was intimidated from re-watching it for years.
Saw it last year though and it was pretty good! Really wasn't that complicated either. I think maybe the people who saw it did so in a crowded auditorium and thus struggled to hear the details? Or maybe they just struggle to pay attention in general.
is ur dad a professor in gay son studies
Nah Bill & Ted is better