Just watched this.
Are all of Scorsese's films this shit? Taxi driver was another shitty "classic".
>Plot goes nowhere, things happens, the movie.
>All characters are repulsive to the point I wanted them killed or caught since the start of the movie. Only exception may be Paulie, good guy overall.
I would only "get" this movie if it was subsidized by the state in an attempt to make mafia less appealing.
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his movies are boring tbh, unless maybe if you have a real hard on for serious mafia stuff. gangs of New York was decent though
It blows my mind how anons on Cinemaphile always manage to have the shittiest opinions in human history and you say them so confidently too
>All characters are repulsive to the point I wanted them killed or caught since the start of the movie.
You can have charismatic psychotic monsters. DeNiro was by far the most likeable of the main trio. But Liotta and espcially Pesci were not likeable in the slightest, movie is near unwatchable just by having them on screen.
Doesn't help that Ray Liotta's face is weird/uncanny as is his laughter. I didn't like seeing him at all.
If you want to watch a movie where everything is fun and every character is likeable go watch Avengers or something I don't know what to tell you
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You can (and should) have likeable unlikeable characters. Butchering your movie or your characters to set the tone butchers your movie as a result. Since we're on Cinemaphile, take a look at Bateman. He's not funny, he's supposed to be unlikeable. Yet he's enjoyable to watch during the movie.
You're equating the fact YOU didn't have fun with the fact a movie is bad. Most people find Goodfellas interesting and compelling, and enjoy the characters and the drama. I can't argue against your feelings
fair point
Departed is his only good movie
>>Plot goes nowhere
imagine getting filtered by fricking scorsese
The point of his movies are to show the harsh realities of urban daily life during the cold war era. All the grit, grime, and degeneracy. Standing in stark contrast to films that showcased bombastic idealism, which was the norm.
You can make that in an appealing way though. Romantize it. Yeah I get it you can integrate the same dreadful feeling into the movie itself which okay is an artistic decision which while valid makes your movie shit. Intetionally shit, but shit nonetheless.
Taxi Driver sometimes manages to get this romantization right so it's not as repulsive.
Same thing happens with No Country For Old Men Ending. Yeah the way it ends conveys the themes of the movie wonderfully, but by doing that makes the movie be shit as A MOVIE.
I just don't like the concept of shitting up a movie to stick with the themes.
It's not supposed to be romantic. It's supposed to show how crime doesn't pay.
>All the characters are repulsive
You're telling me these psychotic mobsters aren't actually goodfellas at all? Woah
I like Goodfellas and I used to think Martin Scorsese was cool until I saw an interview with him where the little homosexual was clutching his chest with gay little tears in his eyes as he talked about some ballerina movie like a complete homo
its a solid 8/10 don't why people say its the best movie ever, Casino is better btw
I'll agree with you there, casino is better, I think it helps that the guys portrayed in casino were much more important figures within the Mafia than Henry hill was and the setting is alot more interesting too
Shitty take, but as enjoyable as the movie is to watch, I feel like for all the "mafia life is le bad" of the movie, the end actually shows contempt for the audience. Like, "yeah these guys are murdering psychos, but at least they have balls, unlike you". You could make a point that's the perspective of henry Hill and not Scorsese, but then Wold Of Wall Street ends the same exact way by showing the people at the convention (proxy for the audience) as complete morons spellbound by Jordan.
it was Henry hills perspective though, that's what Mafia guys think about regular people
What a bunch of morons. Mafia couldn't exist if everyone were mafia same way street cleaners are equally as important as engineers. They should respect their nonrespectability because they can exist because of it.
>What a bunch of morons
yeah alot of them are
>They should respect their nonrespectability because they can exist because of it.
they are narcissists and psychopaths who murder without a second thought
>zoom zoom thinks movies are about friend substitutes doing noble shit and being nice to each other until the happy ending comes along
Tik tok is over there, zoomer homosexual.
If attention span was the problem I wouldn't have sit through 2:30h of boring shit. I do not use social media other than Cinemaphile.
>here are the 18-year-olds I was telling you about
lmao that always made me laugh, homie was like 34 playing a 20 year old
>heres that 27 year old kid I was tellin you 'bout
>huge old man ears
>he didn't like Morrie" "my wigs are
tested against hurricane winds" Kessler
You're gonna get filtered, gonna get filtered.
That was funny. My main gripe with the movie were the characters and nothing interesting happening.
The mafia was never appealing for the average American and hollywood has always glorified gangster crime. You are not supposed to like the characters in the good fellas. These movies are about the downfall of evil men.
more like badfellas iykwim haha
>Goodfellas is bad
No
>Taxi driver was another shitty "classic
Agree on this one
>why aren't murdering sociopaths presented as relatable likeable characters?
you fricking moron lol
OP has a problem with Liotta's looks. Implying he'd rather have someone he's attracted to. He's just a rambling coomer
makes sense
DeNiro is not coomable by any means but doesn't have that creepy Liotta's alien face. It's some uncanny valley shit.
You moronic homosexuals aren't getting the point. You can have likeable unlikeable characters
You're the moron. You don't have to identify or like every character in every movie
the film was based on real people and guess what, the people it was based on were very unlikeable, much more unlikable than they are portrayed in the film, ever seen an interview with Henry hill? he's a complete weasel. you don't have to have likeable character in a film, it's not a friend simulator
Likeable character != likeable person
You can hate someone yet having the time with them on screen not be dreadful
did u and your film school frickbuddies laugh it out of the building lolz
>film school buddies
I'm lacking movie culture so I picked some Cinemaphile top 100 movies of all time. That's why I watched this.
sounds like you're a fanook
His movies are stylistically great and he has interesting characters. Guess you can't deal with flawed human beings. Just stick to watching Disney probably. Happy endings assured. Also probably don't leave the house because it's not easy out there, ya know.
These are not flawed human beings. They are humanized flaws.
I don’t get why you don’t get that this movie is just showing the reality of being in the mob. The movie is based on real events that occurred within the mafia in the 60s-80s.
I get that. You could show that without an insecure manlet and a narcissistic junkie. As I said Paulie was great.
>no insecure manlets or narcissistic junkies
you clearly don't know much about "organised" crime.
Paul Vario was just as big a piece of shit as the rest of them
Exactly that's what I mean. Even if that's the case his scenes are great. Likeable unlikeable chracter yadda yadda
That’s literally who they were moron
I agree. It completely sucks. One of the most overrated movies ever.
>>Plot goes nowhere, things happens, the movie.
it is story and character, not plot
you got filtered
Silence is Scorsese's best movie.
>zoomers actually legitimately require their movie protagonists to be Democrat voting progressive antiheroes at the very worst anything beyond that is "gross"
How are you supposed to make movies for these people
I'm a fascist by ideology anon, what the frick are you talking about? Best thing about Taxi Driver was the MC being a blackpilled incel.
He’s talking about the fact that morons will dislike movies because they don’t agree with the ethos of the main characters, even if the movie is in a real setting with real people that really existed. Utter moronation.
Yeah, and I agree with him. Still, I don't know why he felt that had anything to do with what I posted.
I like character whose ethos I don't agree with, that has nothing to do with them being obnoxious.
This is not the perfect example since it's a comedic role but take Aldo the Apache in Inglorious Basterds. I hated that guy, his methods and what he stood for. Yet it was not a chore to have him on screen; his scenes were great.
>Goodfellas is bad
It becomes bad after they killed based boy
People born after the 90s shouldn't be allowed to express their opinions.