>hahaha, frick poor people and religious people
Wow....You really got'em with that one, Bill.
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>hahaha, frick poor people and religious people
I don't miss the "I am very smart" era of standup. Though I'm also sick of this current "Rogan-adjacent himbo" era of standup.
>I don't miss the "I am very smart" era of standup
??????? lol what the frick ???????
we living on different planets?
katt williams says a bunch of shit everyone's black uncle has said at picnics... it's treated like moses brought down the tablet
WE HAVE TO DEBATE SHIT FRICKING DAVE CHAPELLE AND JOHN MULANEY SAID
lol '80s comedy was a thousand times more down to earth
SO PRETENTIOUS!!!
Both jokes revolve entirely around blaspheming Christianity. Which, as a pagan, I'm all for, but it's just....not very funny.
>Which, as a pagan, I'm all for
have a nice day
>as a pagan
Larping homosexual
stand-up is a dead medium
>Standing in front of people and telling jokes is a dead medium because I don't care for any of the people currently doing it
lol
its dead because there are superior ways to deliver jokes now.
People will still pay to see comedians in public no matter how addicting they make tiktok, and there's no sign of that changing.
The angry cynical too-cool-for-school comic was a trope in the 90s
Bill Hicks
Denis Leary
Lewis Black
Ron White
Who am I missing?
Doug Stanhope.
Yeah, this whole schtick. I was way into it back then.
After much reflection I have decided that most of them were fricking idiots and I would have done better try reading books instead.
>I would have done better try reading books instead
well, looks like we got ourselves a reader !
WHATCHU READIN FOR?
Did you ever consider that their message was more relevant and revolutionary within their time period and that your decades later snobbery about it is misplaced?
No, not until someone pointed it out. I often have a hard time believing that people were so moronic back then, but I guess the evidence proves otherwise.
Maron
Dennis Miller
Carlin (which is what your image is even parodying)
you must be in advertising
I liked the 2000s. Plenty of irreverent racial/sexual/ect humor. The difference of the 2010s and 2000s feels as stark as something like 1950 vs 1970.
As opposed to the current era of standup which...doesn't exist. It's basically woke pandering because wokeness killed comedy years ago.
The importance of the college campus comedy circuit and the blacklisting of comics deemed not woke enough wreaked comedy for years following that change.
oh frick off with this red pill bullshit
comedians complaining about being called killed comedy
"you can't say anything about trans people"
meanwhile here's a 60 million dollar contract for Dave Chappelle to do mid tier jokes and monologue about how he's being oppressed by broke lefties
David Chappelle was a big name prior to the cultural shift. Wokes targeting famous and rich comics like Chappelle and Rogan for censorship is about creating a freezing effect on free speech for small time comics who don't have the famous comics resources and can be easily canceled.
Nah. Rogan created a narrative about being oppressed as a coping mechanism for not being funny. Chappelle hasn't been funny or relevant in ages and he started telling troony jokes as an act of desperation so people would start talking about him again.
troony you are delusional, Chappelle has been a consistently popular comic since his Chappelle show days. Rogan has consistently worked since the 90s but was never a big deal until his show got big which is when he was targeted by progressives because he went off script for Covid and his audience demographics are something those progressives can only dream of having.
Of course you forget to mention that Rogan accrued that massive audience *before* he started saying conspiracy theorist nonsense. And it was purely because of the guests he pulled; guests who consistently carry him because he's always been a terrible interviewer.
Oh and to suggest that Chappelle is anywhere near the level of popularity he was in the early 2000's is just blatant dishonesty. He gets more media attention now for making troony jokes than he has for years, and that's precisely why he's doing it. Controversy sells. Always has.
Do you have a point about Rogan you catty homosexual? What I said was true and you can't refute it.
I didn't suggest he was as popular as he was when The Chappelle Show was airing, which he left at the height of its game. What I wrote was he has been consistently popular over the course of his career, which is also true.
My point was that his show got big before he became controversial by saying a bunch of moronic shit and embarrassing himself. You need to work on your reading comprehension.
>I didn't suggest he was as popular as he was when The Chappelle Show was airing
So what the frick are you talking about? Popularity is a matter of degrees, it isn't binary. He is more talked about since making troony jokes a regular part of his routines, and that is by design.
Rogan has had controversial guests on his show before it got big. Alex Jones has been on his podcast since it's early days. And David Chappelle doesn't have to tell troony jokes to sell out shows. You're an idiot.
But targeting rich and famous comics who are to big to be canceled was never the point. The point was to put a freeze on free speech by letting small time comics what will happen if they step out of line.
>Alex Jones has been on his podcast since it's early days.
He used to make fun of him for being a crazy person and now he agrees with him. The dynamic has definitely shifted. He also didn't have any high profile guests like Alex Jones on in the early days of his podcast. For the first few years it was basically just him and his dudebro friends talking about MMA.
>David Chappelle doesn't have to tell troony jokes to sell out shows.
I didn't say he did. I said he's more in the lexicon than he was before. He wanted Buzzfeed articles about him blasted all over social media because simply selling his tickets wasn't enough. He missed being in the limelight.
Isn’t it funny how Rogan transformed into a lite alt right grifter since his association with Alex Jones? They both unironically sell their shitty impotent overpriced supplements to impressionable low testosterone insecure simps
Rogan simply isn't as smart as he thinks he is. He believes he has a finely tuned bullshit detector and can filter out anything that isn't the truth, but in actuality he's very susceptible to being indoctrinated and nutjobs like Alex Jones and RFK Jr did exactly that.
>association with Alex Jones
have you ever seen the video or Joey Diaz unleashing on Alex Jones while Rogan just sits next to him laughing uncontrollably?
Well yeah. Rogan has made a career out of being a fence sitter.
Its hard to find the video these days but here is a short of part of
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/TQaIEbb9tYc
Early days before he got big, not merely the first year his show aired. And Alex Jones is high profile? Dude has been radioactive since Sandy Hook.
>I didn't say he did. I said he's more in the lexicon than he was before. He wanted Buzzfeed articles about him blasted all over social media because simply selling his tickets wasn't enough. He missed being in the limelight.
Nice headcanon. Chappelle was starved for attention so he started making fun of trannies. lol
>Chappelle was starved for attention so he started making fun of trannies
Well obviously I can only speculate as to what his thought process is, but yeah, he's much more talked about since the troony jokes.
There's really no reason to make any more trannies jokes, except to keep the 'new' audience. He keeps bringing them up (like Jim Carrey pretending to be Andy Warhol) but there was nothing funny.
I'm far more offended by how unfunny he is these days than anything else.
Exactly.
Do you just not know what free speech is or how it works? Is that your problem?
Joe Rogan is such an alt right grifting chud now. Frick I hate Rogan so much now like I hate Musk and Chapelle
>oh frick off with this red pill bullshit
It's funny that you think I'm team redpill just because I stated the truth. /misc/tards are fricking moronic homosexuals and wokeness and political correctness killed comedy. You can get all pissy about it, but it's the truth.
Comedians made people laugh by brazenly saying the things that many people thought about in private but may not express out loud. We currently live in a culture where expressing your impulsive observations is haram and you will lose your career if you do it. That atmosphere was created by the left and it is what killed comedy.
Except you're not telling the truth, you just hear comedians endlessly complain about it and funnily enough, none are cancelled
Matt rife, did a shitty joke, not cancelled, now on an endless red pill tour complaining about being cancelled all while selling out shows, and racking up views.
You literally sound like the NPC caller in this video:
you keep saying this buy can't actually cite any examples
another vague appeal to old days of when 'comedians were free'
people were far more restricted on what they could say to large audiences
there's never been a bigger opportunities than now to express those views at scale
do people not remember the carlin bit in the 70's https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYXvsQAxEqY
Chappelle has a Netflix deal. Joe Rogan is a multi-millionaire. Louis CK has a new special. I'm really wondering where all these destitute, out of work comedians are who had their careers destroyed for wrongthink
Rogan being a multi-milliuonarie is under selling. He was a significant multi-millionare before Spotify gave him 100 million dollars
>wokeness and political correctness killed comedy
yet stewart lee remains the best comedian by being insuffrably progressive.
This. You can still say whatever you want. Freedom of speech is not freedom from consequence.
Only difference between then and now is comedians used to spend less time complaining about their rights and more time being funny.
>Freedom of speech is not freedom from consequence.
Thank you Mr. NKVD officer. In the Soviet Union they had free speech too, only too much free speech got you Gulag time.
There's a big difference between being put into a labor camp for speaking your mind and people saying mean things about you on Twitter, newfriend.
Try and see how much HR likes your comments at work.
Saying inflammatory or inappropriate things and/or instigating arguments with your co-workers are things that have always been a sure fire way to get into trouble. You would know that if you'd ever had a job.
I've never worked at a company that had an HR department. I'm reasonably sure they're made up.
but "muh twitter got demonitized"
i'm being oppressed
I sincerely hope you die horribly, troon homosexual Black person.
;^)
>Freedom of speech is not freedom from consequence
The only people that say shit like that are those that like to call people's employers, banks and email payment processors.
The religious right also loved getting people fired and blacklisted.
It's just reality you fricking idiot. No one is going to protect you for being an unpleasant butthole because of "muh rights".
>The religious right also loved getting people fired and blacklisted.
Nope
Are you fricking kidding? Just getting a divorce was not a thing Catholics even did and getting one could easily blow up your entire life and get you ostracized from the community. See also abortion.
Because this is Cinemaphile here's our good friend Rod Serling talking about censorship. An episode of Lassie about her having puppies spawned a writing campaign that was mostly one guy that impacted the show and the stories it would tell moving forward.
>Because this is Cinemaphile here's our good friend Rod Serling talking about censorship
Pathetic appeal to authority
>tries to use debate shit in a non-debate
>Doesn't even use the right one
Non-arguments
>It's not an appeal to authority.
Yes it is
"Listen to the man from the tv who I agree with"
That's not appeal to authority. Anon even explained what is happening.
Yes it is
It is an appeal to authority
No, it is not kek. Please go do some basic research on this thing that you do not understand.
>Needing to samegay
Sad!
Really winning this argument, anon. Desperately grasping at straws to save your ass.
At least I'm not straw manning
moron doubling down.
Use google next time.
You just mentioned a form of confirmation bias.
I really doubt that.
Holy God you are dumb.
It's only an "appeal to authority" if it doesn't have evidence to back up the claim, you super moron. The video very clearly makes the point that is being discussed.
>appeal to authority
Top kek anon, you are genuinely moronic.
It's not an appeal to authority. It's a story about a one-man letter campaign from someone that was buttmad over an episode of Lassie. This person was able to bully the entire production.
>you can't read Harry Potter!
>It's Satanic
They push to ban every book they can.
Good
The religious right was LITERALLY the same 15 years ago as current "woke" culture is now. THEY were the ones pushing to censor everything and anything that they deemed to be slightly offensive.
The fact that things have made a complete 180 in that time is fascinating to me. Nonetheless, you're obviously some idiot zoomer who identifies with his half-baked political beliefs too much to see the forest for the trees.
Actually the religious right was far more dogmatic. They would actually picket and write petitions to get things removed. Woke culture just complains about everything to no avail, kind of like someone else I know
Colin Kaepernick would like a word with you . He got cancelled by far right Maga Chuds
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2791321-john-elway-colin-kaepernick-had-his-chance-to-be-here-was-offered-contract
Colin Kaepernick turned down a two year deal for seven million to go throw a ball for John Elway and then sued the NFL for discrimination and took an unnamed but probably huge cash settlement all the while being praised. Turning down seven million is not a cancellation.
>2000+24
> citing bleacher report
Ok chud. Kaepernick was definitely black listed
Wait, it's the source you have a problem with?
https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/broncos/2018/08/16/colin-kaepernick-denver-broncos-contact-john-elway/1010887002/
https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/elways-kaepernick-comments-could-be-problematic-for-nfl
Here's Elway himself
Elway was playing the media for lib brownie points. They never had any intention of signing Kaep
No privately owned company is obligated to provide employment to someone who will hurt their share prices by creating a public relations disaster purely because they're too stupid to realize that what they say on their social media accounts is a matter of public record. I don't have any sympathy for someone who gets banned from a restaurant for shitting on the floor. Take some personal responsibility.
Trying to punish someone for offending you by employing the tactics of life ruination is not the same thing as natural consequences for someone being a gigantic pile of garbage. The bar to set off some weirdos is well below shitting on a restaurant floor.
>Trying to punish someone for offending you by employing the tactics of life ruination is not the same thing as natural consequences for someone being a gigantic pile of garbage
It is if it works.
Plenty of people try to get their enemies cancelled and it doesn't work. It only works when they dig and find real dirt, and that's only when there is real dirt to find. Is it something I'm happy about? No, I think it's gross. People with integrity don't do that shit. More than anything it's a byproduct of people having way more public exposure in the era of the internet than they ever did before. But to say that it's a sign we're living in some kind of Orwellian dystopia is just histrionic, and to suggest that it's not a tactic employed regularly by BOTH sides of the political spectrum in the current era is deliberately dishonest.
No, you're wrong. The ADL literally exists for this extortion racket. All big corporations will ruin you at their whim. Sure, there might be some small businesses that will be objective, but the consolidation is immense and only worsened by covid riots and lockdowns.
Almost as bad as the time he said Sandy Hook was fake.
>Sandy Hook was fake
Uhh wtf? You deserve to pay literally $100M for even having that thought.
Play with fire, get burned.
Carlin, Bill Hicks, and Doug Stanhope are the unholy trinity of pretentious, self-righteous, hipster homosexuals that get off on the fumes of their own fake intellectualism.
I think he's great
Bill Hicks and George Carlin ruined comedy, I don't want to listen to some dude's lecture about society systems being bullshit
He's no Denis Leary
Back in his time religious people really did need to be taken down a few pegs, honestly. But shooting against poor people has never been okay.
In the defense of Bill Hicks when he was growing up the Religious Right / Moral Majority types had major mainstream no shit political power and were fricking awful. I'm skeptical he would have changed with the times so he'd probably be insufferable now but when he was endlessly shitting on TV evangelists they were serious business.
That's a good point.
Still, his ideas were still pretty insufferable when you look at them through a more objective lens. He was a funny guy, but he was definitely a sophist at best when it came to philosophy.
not him but to add to what he said, for the time period it was in it wasn't sophist because most people didn't dare say that shit. You are using a relative adjective there to make a subjective comparison.
Yeah, fair enough.
Hasn't that crow basically just seemlessly assimilated into the Tea Party, and consequentially the MAGA/QAnon clique?
To an extent, yes. What's different is the level of influence and how they're regarded. These were people that could get shit banned and tv shows canceled all the while being taken very seriously. It's not easy to explain. Imagine a group of people got together and banned Halloween from your kid's grade school and then banned all non-Jesus Christmas iconography like Santa Claus a couple months later. You can't get the music you want to listen without driving 100 miles because no one will sell it. Is a censored version good enough? No? Get fricked we'll pray for you.
zoomies are all now unironic fundamentalist christians and neo-nazis. your comment is considered woke to them.
nobody hates bill hicks. they just hate a highly implausible extrapolation of bill hicks being alive in 2024 doing the same act he did in the 80s.
i wish i was dead bill hicks
Lazy, fat, dead bill hicks.
For me? It's Ninja Bachelor Party.
Stand up is for homosexuals like OP.
Alex Jones never said that
For me, its Eddie Murphy Raw and Richard Pryor
This thread is brought to you by the same people who do this for Carlin.
Seems they want to get the community hivemind to just dismiss them. Which means their voices are still a threat to the status quo to this day.
That much is evident.
carlin isnt funny though, my dad gave me class clown for my birthday said it was the funniest album he ever had. shit you not the first 20 minutes is him making fart noises into the mic.
Carlin is hilarious, but that's definitely not the album I would recommend someone.
Humor doesn't age well you fricking homosexual. How fricking young are you to have not figured that out by now?
Also, suck my dick.
he had some good bits.
The bits about the beach being shit and then talking moths was funny. Its a very stream of consciousness type comedy that either hits or misses but its only maligned because he got put in the george carlin boat of guys who have SOMETHING TO SAY. For the most part Hicks' comedy was soc bits on the news and jokes about being a degenerate. He's pretty prototypical internet humour that way except he actually put in the fricking work and put out new material every night so he got a big name for it.
I liked the Doug Stanhope newswipe vids
>le intellectual comedian
Tell some jokes clown
>hahaha, frick poor people
Are you fricking kidding me, where did you get this from you moron? Hicks was sympathetic to poor people, that's why in one of his shows he says "You think you're free? Try going somewhere without money.". Also, I don't care what anyone says, Hicks was unironically based and I always love Hicks no matter what. Hicks's iconic "It's just a ride" speech genuinely saved my life more than once.
>and religious people
Again, where did you get this from you moron? Hicks believed in at least some conception of God, like me. I easily rate Hicks above any comedian alive today.
Hicks hated evangelists.