They flop because the movies are ass, their characters are a bit corny and antiquated, and they need to do something other than conventional capeshit to differentiate themselves
Why not do a horror or fantasy or monster character instead?
DC and Marvel are outdated that's why shonen manga is selling tens of times more, DC is even more outdated because they are 90 years old while Marvel characters are more like 60
Marvel isn't outdated. They had the "world outside your window" brand and bite/edge for years that only went away after being bought by Disney. The fact that they are succeeding despite the saccharine nature of the MCU is a testament to that leftover ethos.
>Shonen manga
Japanese capeshit who's biggest names are 20 years old, just as nonsensical as DC and only appeals to hispanics and pre-teens
>Marvel isn't outdated
Yes they are, that's why people don't read their comics not even the "classic" ones writen by Stan Lee, Dikto and Kirby >Japanese capeshit who's biggest names are 20 years old, just as nonsensical as DC and only appeals to hispanics and pre-teens
More white kids and adults read manga than comics.
>Yes they are, that's why people don't read their comics not even the "classic" ones writen by Stan Lee, Dikto and Kirby
Americans don't read books let alone comics anymore. "Classic" comics were at the hayday in the 60s through 80s and Marvel sold well then.
Marvel should market their trades and classic collections better
>More white kids and adults read manga than comics.
No "adult" in America watches anime unless they are trans or stinky
Also if we are talking live action adaptations, shonen shit has a worse track record. Is that not an indictment on them? Or is it different because you're a weaboo?
If you're talking about Hollywood >>>Cinemaphile is that way
If you're talking about comics I'd say DC is doing slightly better than Marvel atm, but they're both flopping because no one involved in the industry cares anymore.
>DC flops because it's just "more of that thing" rather than their own thing.
DC flops because they are shitty at casting
Because they force diversity like mad
Because they apparently don't have any good SFX artists in their rolodex
Because they get the worst bang-for-their-buck of any Major Studio
Because Marvel continuously beats them to the cinematic punch
Because they can't decide between Faux Profundity and being Brazilian Knock-Off Marvel
Because they attempt to knit a bunch of movies into a "we cinematic universe too" with no narrative consistency.
Because they put people who Pretend they are fans and familiar with the mythos
They fail because the movies are ass, they do next to nothing with characters that arent related to their flagship titles, the characters they do shit with they obviously have no fricking clue what they are doing (tom king existing at all, alfreds death, ric grayson, clayface is/was a good guy who worked with the bat-family, the bat-family becoming like 20 people, etc). The best batman stories come from videogames now. Not to mention they do an awful job of cataloging past stories when marvel has things like marvel masterworks and a shitload of omnibuses for characters and eras. Alienating old fans and making characters unrecognizable for potential new fans is an awful business strategy turns out.
Dc copied marvel films that were already pretty bad . Of course no one would watch them
Plus they seemingly hate the characters they are making films out of , which doesn’t help
>Bad special effects should not be viewed as bad
>Movies should not be seen as competition
They flop because the movies are ass, their characters are a bit corny and antiquated, and they need to do something other than conventional capeshit to differentiate themselves
Why not do a horror or fantasy or monster character instead?
It's too risky, it might fail and lose money. Capeshit is in, so it's going to be a sure win!
Horror is a big money maker. WB is good at fantasy.
With capeshit tropes being oversaturated, they would benefit from looking at some other DC characters
No, they flop because they make shitty movies, just like Marvel is finally starting to flop now
DC film fans made an absolute snowflake infested Discord server. That's all you need to know.
>dc only flops because they make worse movies than marvel
OK. What's your point?
DC and Marvel are outdated that's why shonen manga is selling tens of times more, DC is even more outdated because they are 90 years old while Marvel characters are more like 60
Marvel isn't outdated. They had the "world outside your window" brand and bite/edge for years that only went away after being bought by Disney. The fact that they are succeeding despite the saccharine nature of the MCU is a testament to that leftover ethos.
>Shonen manga
Japanese capeshit who's biggest names are 20 years old, just as nonsensical as DC and only appeals to hispanics and pre-teens
>Marvel isn't outdated
Yes they are, that's why people don't read their comics not even the "classic" ones writen by Stan Lee, Dikto and Kirby
>Japanese capeshit who's biggest names are 20 years old, just as nonsensical as DC and only appeals to hispanics and pre-teens
More white kids and adults read manga than comics.
Yes Anon, adults read manga and that's fine, but people who read Shonens aren't adults
>Yes they are, that's why people don't read their comics not even the "classic" ones writen by Stan Lee, Dikto and Kirby
Americans don't read books let alone comics anymore. "Classic" comics were at the hayday in the 60s through 80s and Marvel sold well then.
Marvel should market their trades and classic collections better
>More white kids and adults read manga than comics.
No "adult" in America watches anime unless they are trans or stinky
Also if we are talking live action adaptations, shonen shit has a worse track record. Is that not an indictment on them? Or is it different because you're a weaboo?
i want to die
DC Discord Trannies
DC Discord Trannies
Why did our fandom crash?
>Why did our fandom crash?
Was it because of the DC discord trannies?
If you're talking about Hollywood >>>Cinemaphile is that way
If you're talking about comics I'd say DC is doing slightly better than Marvel atm, but they're both flopping because no one involved in the industry cares anymore.
No.
Warner destroyed DC because they were unhappy getting millions and wanted the billions Marvel was doing, so they became a shitty knockoff version.
DC flops because it's just "more of that thing" rather than their own thing.
>DC flops because it's just "more of that thing" rather than their own thing.
DC flops because they are shitty at casting
Because they force diversity like mad
Because they apparently don't have any good SFX artists in their rolodex
Because they get the worst bang-for-their-buck of any Major Studio
Because Marvel continuously beats them to the cinematic punch
Because they can't decide between Faux Profundity and being Brazilian Knock-Off Marvel
Because they attempt to knit a bunch of movies into a "we cinematic universe too" with no narrative consistency.
Because they put people who Pretend they are fans and familiar with the mythos
>Joss Whedon
>James Gunn
>Tom King
>Brian Bendis
>Kelley Thompson
I think DC should stop hiring hacks from Marvel.
They fail because the movies are ass, they do next to nothing with characters that arent related to their flagship titles, the characters they do shit with they obviously have no fricking clue what they are doing (tom king existing at all, alfreds death, ric grayson, clayface is/was a good guy who worked with the bat-family, the bat-family becoming like 20 people, etc). The best batman stories come from videogames now. Not to mention they do an awful job of cataloging past stories when marvel has things like marvel masterworks and a shitload of omnibuses for characters and eras. Alienating old fans and making characters unrecognizable for potential new fans is an awful business strategy turns out.
Dc copied marvel films that were already pretty bad . Of course no one would watch them
Plus they seemingly hate the characters they are making films out of , which doesn’t help