>metacritic
Also skews when they have a corporate interest to protect, but it at least has the benefit of actually averaging scores, instead of a percentage score of "good or not so good" like RT does. When you break it down and look at the scores critics actually gave MM, it totals out to a 7/10, same as Flash or Little Mermaid.
7/10 is the universal shill critic score for "it's really not that good, but it's not bad enough for us to burn bridges by giving any sort of thoughtful criticism about it"
>Who are you quoting?
People who think a TMNT movie for younger audiences should get an easy pass just because of it's rating. The 2007 movie proved that's bullshit
>Hollywood paying critics is just a /misc/ conspiracy theory >All negative reviews are just review bombs from... uhm... the troll army!
Certified moron moment.
The part where you forgot to check your Redditspacing is icing on top.
>>what is ROTMNT
Exactly. Almost nobody knew it existed because Nick barely aired it and didn't even bother to make it accessible to watch on their app
>The type of humor that I can get by casually talking with a friends is unironically superior.
You should laugh the most around friends, how are you framing it as strange that you laugh more with friends than at a cartoon?
It's a movie about teenagers in 2023, that's how they talk anon. It's a Nickelodeon movie, it's for kids, not your 35 year old ass complaining it isn't the low budget cartoon you remember from the last time you were happy
>I-its kids movie what did you expect?!
Like clockwork
9 months ago
Anonymous
>heh, think you've got me cornered by pointing out that I'm mad about something that isn't catered to me specifically? That's where you're wrong pal, I anticipated this argument and have flipantly dismissed it!
9 months ago
Anonymous
Too many big words for a chud brain to comprehend.
>Kids movie arguement
I saw the movie and it was fine, but it doesn't deserve nearly the amount of praise it is getting. Their are "kids movies" like toy story, Shrek, how to train your dragon, kung fu Panda or any Miyazaki film, that has writing that both adults and kids can enjoy.
Usually starts with insistence that the new thing is as good or better than the original it's trying to replace. Then it turns into flinging shit and making excuses for why anyone could dislike it. Then it turns into excuses about how you're not supposed to like it, because it's not for you... and then eventually they just drop the act and say they always hated the TMNT anyways and it's all fricking stupid and frick you for having opinions and not just getting excited for next product.
>Cowabunga
Been a staple phrase of the turtles for over two decades, the zoomer speak is a poor substitution for personality to get all the broccoli heads to cum and piss and shidt their pants and will never last nor add anything of substance to the characters.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Actually they stopped saying that with the 2012 cartoon and changed it to "Booyakasha" or something
9 months ago
Anonymous
NTA,But they also cowabunga too even rise so thats moot.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Tbh I partly watched 2012 and what I saw they were phasing it out and referenced it on their writers blogs. They probably walked back that from what ive seen.
Yeah I liked this movie and I'm looking forward to the TV show and sequel film.
Ironically the posters on this board are more out of touch with teenagers than the Hollywood writers they're criticizing.
I regularly interact with high school kids and they got their mannerisms and habits down two a tea.
>Mario movie has childish writing
Yes >Compares this movies writing to spiderverse
No, this movie has zoomer one-note turtles who barley develop in any way, sheboon April who is nothing like the original, a pathetic splinter who learns martial arts from videos, villains who join the turtles almost instantly without any cool fight scenes, and to top it off Seth rogen tier humour.
Either you're moronic and don't know how to get your point across, or your just a shill.
It’s similar in the sense that both this and the Mario movies have way too much “we think our audience is fricking moronic to pick up on themes or backstory, so we’ll just drown you in exposition and pointing out the themes.”
I’m genuinely shocked all these people want sing this movie ‘s praises when it’s just a more charming version of Illumination’s sawdust writing. There’s a couple moments of genuine charm that make me think it was a victim of focus group response based rewrites but I’m thoroughly convinced that this is the movie shitposters claim ITSV/ATSV/Last Wish is: a very mediocre kid’s movie with pretty stylization to mask its dogshit writing.
>I’m thoroughly convinced that this is the movie shitposters claim ITSV/ATSV/Last Wish is: a very mediocre kid’s movie with pretty stylization to mask its dogshit writing.
That's what they all are though, the last animated movie with good writing was Shrek 2
>There’s a couple moments of genuine charm that make me think it was a victim of focus group response based rewrites
People were saying this shit was amazingly good back when they played the unfinished cut at the film festival. It really just comes down to brainless homosexuals being impressed by the pseudo-sketchy low framerate animation style. Any moments of charm or witty writing were likely accidental and not because focus groups or executives meddled, since Rogen and Goldberg had almost total creative control.
Well that’s depressing, what makes those other movies work is how they use the on-two’s animation to give the action scenes impact and focus. It’s not just the choreography being good, it’s the use of impact frames that Spiderverse does or the scale play Last Wish uses to really sell the intensity of the fights alongside more dynamic framing. The closest thing this got was the anti-mutagen delivery in the climax, but everything else just felt kind of uninspired.
Fricking yeah, after watching it, it’s very apparent that the sketchy style is pulling way more weight than crowds than anything. At the very least, it makes me appreciate the good movies that use this stylization more, but what a fricking disappointment this turned out to be. I had to fight the urge to groan when they had Splinter point out the themaric parallel between him and Superfly to make sure the dummies understood what was going on, fricking Christ.
Because Seth Rogan is this generation's Shakespeare...he truly did write one for the ages, with such timeless dialogue as "we don't even have nipples!" and "You've got a rage problem raph."
The writing in the mario movie is nothing like things like this or across the spiderverse. Mario has literal toddler illumination writing.
It’s similar in the sense that both this and the Mario movies have way too much “we think our audience is fricking moronic to pick up on themes or backstory, so we’ll just drown you in exposition and pointing out the themes.”
I’m genuinely shocked all these people want sing this movie ‘s praises when it’s just a more charming version of Illumination’s sawdust writing. There’s a couple moments of genuine charm that make me think it was a victim of focus group response based rewrites but I’m thoroughly convinced that this is the movie shitposters claim ITSV/ATSV/Last Wish is: a very mediocre kid’s movie with pretty stylization to mask its dogshit writing.
Still better than the Mario Movie though.
Both this movie and the mario movie had the shittiest use of licensed music in an animated movie
I don't even get why mario has that music in it other than its Illuminations usual slop. Mario has a multi-decades long OST to pull from all across different genres.
It was a late change most likely from Illumination heads, every scene with licensed music had an original song it replaced that matched up with the motif of remixed/orchestrated Koji Kondo music. See: https://youtube.com/watch?v=gWI46-ibmzU&pp=ygUYbWFyaW8gbW92aWUgdW51c2VkIG11c2lj
They absolutely knew they had plenty of legendary music to work with, but they switched it anyways cause parents love listening to the same 5-6 tracks in every fricking animated movie they are forced to watch with their kids and it absolutely worked in their favor. All they had to do was say it was “80’s throwback” inspired to justify the laziness.
The writing in the mario movie is nothing like things like this or across the spiderverse. Mario has literal toddler illumination writing.
Mario movie wasn't progressive "woke" pandering, simply because Nintendo Japan wouldn't let them do that shit.
TMNT MM is dripping with Seth Rogen and his disgusting politics, like everything else he does. And the critics are slurping it up like the thirsty homosexuals they are.
A lot of the general audience don't give a frick about TMNT, so any old bullshit is fine; Whereas something like Spider-Man or Batman have a bit more expectation to be a little more clever with its humor and writing
More like the general normies have no concept of turtles other then 80s they will watch this zoomer trash and think it's new and interesting when the turtles going to fricking school is the least ninja shit ever.
>Like what?
yellow, red hair, shes a reporter. her race isnt the most important part. This is coming from someone who would have still liked it if she had remained white, especially considering how black coded the entire movie is. i havent seen it and im not in a rush to, i think casey jones is in it? dunno.
>shes a reporter
April being a reporter is surprisingly inconsistent. In about 50% of depictions she's a scientist. Usually Baxter Stockman's assistant or intern or something like that.
I'm pretty sure she owned a junk store in the 2003 cartoon and in the movies too (though she was a reporter, the junk store was just property she owned)
The junk store is something she typically inherits from her parents and her actual job varies. in 2003 she was a scientist, and they specifically make fun of her being a reporter in the 80s cartoon a few times.
>yellow, red hair,
2003 April didn't wear yellow (90% of the time. There might be a fanservice scene I'm forgetting)
90's movie April didn't either and I think she was blonde.
Rise has brown hair.
Honestly, I know people wanna say this started with Rise, but it started with 2012.
Older versions, she was always an adult who had a job which brought her into contact with the insane situation that is the TMNT. Not just her either, I'm noticing that every fricking character is aged down in the reboots of their 80s franchises
1987 April is the main one used for videogames, crossovers and merch to this day, someone at Nickelodeon likes her
Also Shredder's Revenge is getting more DLC characters
People speculate that a chinese revision got accidentally slipped into western packaging. Won't know until shit releases in China, and somebody there can confirm, or deny.
It's funny though, because if this is just somehow a production mistake, then that 'rare white' April will be valued by collectors far more than the standard black April.
cause that cartoon was massively popular. thats like wonder why Kirk and Spock keep getting merch. They still make Merch for fricking Bela Lugosi Dracula! Banana Raincoat April is Iconic, but newer versions of her are gonna be different.
1987 April is the main one used for videogames, crossovers and merch to this day, someone at Nickelodeon likes her
Also Shredder's Revenge is getting more DLC characters
>Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (1987 TV series): 10 seasons 193 episodes. >Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (2003 TV series): 7 seasons 155 episodes. >Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (2012 TV series): 5 seasons 124 episodes. >Rise of the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (2018 TV series): 2 seasons 39 episodes.
I think the 2003 series waited too long to introduce the wilder aspects of TMNT.
It was a fairly street level show for 4 or so seasons and then there's magic and time travel and shit. It was pretty jarring.
He fricking simps for her two
He says your mouth is perfectly shaped or something like that
>You're the most beautiful mutant I've ever seen >I'm not a mutant >...was one of your parents a mutant >no >grandparents? >no >what happened to your face then
I remember the same people defending Aprils new design were the ones who sperged the hardest over the Donatello/April shit in 2012 so that’s hilarious if true.
I don't care for TMNT but it's fun seeing /chuds/ have a meltdown over the crushing success of this throwaway movie >inb4 you're not better than us
yes I am.
Cannibalistic Humanoid Underground Dwellers
You have to realize that every group has become a protected class (morons, gays,etc.) so the far left can't use any word that would be demeaning to those existing groups. So they latched on the a made up word from a movie to be an insult.
The problem is that insults work because of their association with real negative traits, so using a word with no association to anything carries no bite. They can't keep calling EVERYONE nazis (people got tired of that after years) so they use their superspecial can't-insult-real-people word.
You can always tell an insult hits when the recipient's best reply is to feign confusion.
It's a reference to a Larry Cohen movie mutants that live in the sewers and eat the homeless. Where it's an Abbreviation of Cannibalistic Humanoid Underground Dwellers.
'verified' ratings
...Okay, yea, sure. The actual audience rating may be equally as high, I don't care. But you shouldn't post the verified audience rating
It's slightly lower, but RT has purged negative reviews in the past.
I think the best indicator is looking at how many people find the top reviews on imdb helpful. Which, by that metric, this one's mixed.
Why? Anon’s image doesn’t mean anything, the scores are about the same, but all that’s changed is that more people who call themselves film critics exist than they did back in the day. It’s like being sad there’s more articles written about a modern day natural disaster than the Chicago Fire of 1871
Again, anon’s image doesn’t mean anything. More people exist who have “film critic” as a side hustle, so they’re gonna write more reviews for things coming out than retrospects from German Expressionist pieces. Not like people are saying The Cabinet of Dr. Caligiri is bad, actually in their Black Panther reviews, Rotten Tomatoes is a dumb, metric based website that organizes shit by numbers. You’re getting sad over a shitpost picture.
This. Aggregate sites are utterly useless especially when an online shitflinging match has been started against something. The best thing to do is find 2 or 3 reviewers you actually trust and just read/watch them. Rotten Tomatoes and Metacritic have literally been making the internet more moronic with number go up number go down shit.
This. Aggregate sites are utterly useless especially when an online shitflinging match has been started against something. The best thing to do is find 2 or 3 reviewers you actually trust and just read/watch them. Rotten Tomatoes and Metacritic have literally been making the internet more moronic with number go up number go down shit.
They dont even do that list any more because a bunch of 100% rated movies were just obscure movies that hate like 3 reviews from sites like ChristianMothersunited.com or DadReviewsMovies.com
>Studio has low expectations probably a Tax right off >Make dirt Cheap TMNT movie most likely with slave labor >Spend little to no marketing on it seriously all the commercials came out like a 1 or 2 months before premier. >Start Gay Splinter roomer for free marketing, so moron like some anons here can say "NAH UH MAN HE AINT GAY GONNA GO WATCH IT NOW" >The break even milestone is dirt cheap the mountain to conquer was not eve a Dirt ant mound at 70 million >OMG WE AT 50 MILLION WE ARE A HUGE SUCCESS >Really_homie.jpeg
Yeah I can see HOW, when your expectations are "Ah I got mud on my shoes, WELL AT LEAST I DIDN'T STEP ON ANY SHIT"
No the bug person he gets with is a girl. One of the 100s of promo posters said “himself” which was actually an error because she doesn’t have any non gibberish lines
It's opening weekend was nearly twice as big as Elementals, and that movie went on to make $400 million while this TMNT movie had a budget of ten dollars and a handjob. It won't be a top ten movie by box office, but it'll maybe have the best ROI of anything except Mario
>It's opening weekend was nearly twice as big as Elementals, and that movie went on to make $400 million while this TMNT movie had a budget of ten dollars and a handjob. It won't be a top ten movie by box office, but it'll maybe have the best ROI of anything except Mario
Elemental had incredible legs, it's a stupid comparison. It did 3/5 of Lightyear at the opening, and went to outgross is at 5:4 domestic (and crush it overseas). TMNT could do it too, but it's not reasonable to expect it.
>Spend little to no marketing on it seriously all the commercials came out like a 1 or 2 months before premier.
Because no one can promote movies during the Strike.
They were still posting clips, interviews, and behind the scenes stuff the entire time the strike has been going on. Not to mention all the billboards, painted walls, and other installations. Mutant Mayhem was undeniably very advertised.
Incidentally, this is also a reason why the movie failing to break even is an even larger loss. That much advertising and promotion was not cheap.
>Incidentally, this is also a reason why the movie failing to break even is an even larger loss. That much advertising and promotion was not cheap.
the film has only been out for seven days, one Fri-Sun weekend, and it hasn't yet released in the majority of the international market and is at 60/70 million of it's official budget while opening against Barbenheimer. I doubt it's going to do spider-verse numbers but the breakeven point is so low it's just flat out going to hit in the next few weeks. It's got strong word of mouth so I'm thinking at least 200m, possible even Puss in Boots 2 numbers.
It's a severely dumbed down take on the TMNT origin story that totally lacks substance and goes out of it's way to be as safe and boring as possible. There's nothing unique or refreshing about it unless you think being awful on purpose is some kind of artistic statement.
>There's nothing unique or refreshing about it
You're one of those gays who think subversions are the absolute pinnacle of media tropes, frick off tard
And you're one of those gays who can't read. It's not refreshing and it's not unique. It's a dumber, lamer, less interesting version of series that has existed for 40 years. It doesn't need to be subversive, but it needs to be good and this movie is not good.
This movie has some of the coolest frickign designs I've ever seen. I'm glad that a movie about mutants isn't afraid to look ugly. If I were like 9 years old, this shit would be all I talk about.
Sales, review aggregate scores, television ratings, and awards are the go-to statistics among trolls because they're too busy chasing their "precious" dopamine rush by behaving like anti social psychopaths to actually bother reading, watching, or playing anything, and instead just spend 5 seconds google searching and the rest of it making threads that blatently violate Global Rule 3. Civilized society would be infinitely better off if they were all subjected to immediate, involuntary, and indefinite institutionalization. But until that happens, fulfill your civic duty by reporting the OP as soon as possible and as much as possible.
https://sys.Cinemaphile.org/co/imgboard.php?mode=report&no=138732510
As far as the audience score is concerned, it's selection bias. Only people highly motivated to see this movie went to it. It had a $28 million first weekend, which is good for a movie of this size and budget, but it's not a blockbuster. You're not getting a large cross-section of the general movie-going audience.
I haven't seen it but I'm hearing people like the art. Come to think of it, it WAS rather suspicious how everyone complaining about the art on Cinemaphile was so fixated on O'Neil being black and fat.
The art in this movie is intentionally grungy looking and I was surprised how vulgar this movie actually was. They say "damn" a few times, Superfly talks about "Big booty boy races," Spinter violently makes out with a bug monster, and April has an extended vomiting sequence. It feels like a modernized gross out cartoon.
Keep trying. I'm some one day the whole board will believe you that people are just being shallow, and that this movie was actually a near perfect cinematic masterpiece. It's gonna happen. I believe in you. Just keep being a simple-minded homosexual and you'll be able to muster some sliver of self-worth from defending a bland corporate product.
It’s alright. The animation from this show always came off as a little tryhard, and the small tiff that happened after one storyboarder posted a fricking near complete animation as their “boards” for this film cemented that perception for me
It might be time for you to accept the reality that people here are jaded bitter and mostly let their identity politics dictate their opinions and are 9 times out of 10 out of step with what the rest of the world is thinking.
Why does everyone hate Seth Rogen so much now?
i liked him in Freaks & Geeks, 40 y/o virgin, Superbad, Pineapple Express, the interview, and more. The only thing I can think of that I hated was Sausage Party.
Besides being an extremely unfunny guy, and blaming Santa Inc.'s failure on white supremacy, the only other thing I can think of is when he told people that they should just accept break-ins as a completely normal part of life.
Him and kevin smith are the loser white dude stoner manchildren that actually ended up "making my movie" and got success. Its sour grapes from Cinemaphile
Maybe people are just salty that untalented, moronic fricks keep failing upwards and they're sick of seeing those same moronic fricks who can't act, write, direct, or even do voiceover getting jobs doing all of the above with obnoxious frequency.
Why does everyone hate Seth Rogen so much now?
i liked him in Freaks & Geeks, 40 y/o virgin, Superbad, Pineapple Express, the interview, and more. The only thing I can think of that I hated was Sausage Party.
>sausage party and how the animators were treated (was he aware?) >his dumb laugh >voice acting a bunch of shit, no thank you >weed luh-mao (unironically) >another israelite actor to miraculously appear in all your movies! >not that funny
outside of that, he seems like an okay guy and i would rather Rogan than Abrams any day of the week.
>despite all the names behind it, the promotion, and critics sucking off Seth Rogan, STILL loses out to Barbie, Oppenheimer and the fricking MEG 2
Absolute cancer being pushed as "LMAO THEY'RE REAL TEENS! BLAZE IT 420! xD!"
Just look at this fricking disgusting character design.
Cinemaphile is gonna Cinemaphile and declare films a flop 2 minutes after they release but it should be obvious why The Meg 2 outgrossing it isn't even really a fair comparison. One is clearly a kid's film that hasn't released to most of its international territories including China yet and the other is a big budget adult film that needs a lot more to break even.
It's a popular preexisting IP and brand that's been around for decades. The fact it's being beaten by the fricking MEG 2 IS relevant you moronic shill. A family friendly movie like TMNT should be in the top spot for at least a month.
It's garbage and cancer, and no matter how hard you shill no one wants this trash.
Meg 2 seems like a dumb movie that people want to watch to hoot and holler at with the audience. This TMNT movie is probably gonna drop on Paramount+ or Netflix not too long after and most families would rather hold out for that than spend $21-$45 dollars on movie tickets alone and overpriced concessions. I saw this movie and it sucked, but I think that’s more why the turnout has been low: families don’t wanna watch movies with other loud ass kids when a cheaper alternative like streaming exists.
>but I think that’s more why the turnout has been low: families don’t wanna watch movies with other loud ass kids when a cheaper alternative like streaming exists.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>bigger marketing budget >bigger outreach thanks to Nintendo Direct appealing directly to Nintendrones >Novelty of the first big budget Nintendo movie since the 80s Mario movie >has a significantly bigger chokehold on the Zeitgeist than TMNT ever did
I said what I said and I stand by it. Families do not wanna spend the money to go to theaters in it probably, and this is not an excuse to explain it’s apparent underperformance, I thought Mutant Mayhem was kind of shit. I’m just giving my best guess.
As a sidenote, I find it funny that the conversation for this movie begins and ends with “it made a lot of money.” It really is an Illumination film with Mario slapped on it, huh.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Also, that movie was marketed for like 4 years
9 months ago
Anonymous
marketing budget
Citation, otherwise you're full of shit.
outreach thanks to Nintendo Direct appealing directly to Nintendrones
Ok.
of the first big budget Nintendo movie since the 80s Mario movie >80s Mario movie >80s
At least know enough about what you're talking about before you spew bullshit.
>has a significantly bigger chokehold on the Zeitgeist than TMNT ever did
Ok. So anyway, apparently families didn't mind going out to see Mario movie in theatres. Everything else you said is moving goalposts.
>it made a lot of money
So, should we only go by critic score? Because Mario movie has a great user score by contrast, and critics hated it. So tell me anon, how should we all measure the quality of a movie, and why are you defending this cancer so hard when you clearly hate the Mario movie?
9 months ago
Anonymous
Why are you getting so needlessly aggressive? I don't care if the Mario movie made more money than TMNT, I didn't like either, I'm just inferring reasons why the former had more direct returns in the box office >Citation, otherwise you're full of shit.
The fricking aggressive cross promotions with Lush, McDonald's, and and all the other fricking companies they worked with didn't clue you in? Releasing it very close to the opening of Super Nintendo Land? Fricking... all the goddamn commercials for it? Do you need me to cite every single one of them as if you could not see and hear it with your eyes and ears? >At least know enough about what you're talking about before you spew bullshit.
Oh no, I got the decade of the massive flop piece of shit movie that scared Nintendo from movies up till now wrong, there was absolutely no curiosity from the public to see how a theatrical Nintendo movie would play out after 30 YEARS of never allowing Hollywood near their ips would work out, so sorry anon. >So anyway, apparently families didn't mind going out to see Mario movie in theatres. Everything else you said is moving goalposts.
Can you explain why would I want to move goalposts for, anon? I do not ascribe my personal well being with how much a movie I liked made in the box office, and I especially don't do that for movies I dislike (hint: Mutant Mayhem) nor do I gain anything for giving some speculations as to why the movie that got hyped for 4 fricking years vs some piece of shit dime a dozen TMNT reboot got more seats in theaters. TMNT is Nick property and is probably going to be on Paramount+ very soon. There is no real incentive to go out to watch it in theaters, especially when you know it'll drop on streaming soon vs the palpable excitement and speculation over the fricking Mario movie. What do you want from me?
9 months ago
Anonymous
Mario Movie's marketing campaign was the franchise itself. Nintendo just opened a fricking mario theme park
9 months ago
Anonymous
Arguably the movie itself is the "marketing" for the franchise, not the other way around. Just like the TMNTs media is marketing for their fricking action figures.
It's a lame and weak argument that Nintendo had a "bigger marketing budget" when your argument is that Mario games/ entertainment venues exist. We all know it's not the same thing.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>It's a lame and weak argument that Nintendo had a "bigger marketing budget"
They did. They advertised it for longer, had multiple collaboration campaigns with big name franchises to push the movie specifically, actively pushed said movie's advertisement into their own advertising queue. They had cute little fake websites and numbers you could call to get Luigi talk to you and advertise the movie.
Just a preface, this is not to say "waaah poor little TMNT", that also had some fairly meaty advertisement. Mario was just more aggressive and more prominent for much longer. Because it's an Illumination movie and those campaigns work.
It's almost impressive that they had years to work on the script and an entire movie to develop them as characters and their traits are Simp, Weeb, Hates his family, and Improv.
>make show for kids >kids like it >parents spend money for kids to see show >whiny neckbeards b***h about it on Cinemaphile >show ends up a success
>make show for 30-year-old neckbeards >kids don't like it >parents don't spend any money >whiny neckbeards b***h about it on Cinemaphile >show makes no money
Oh wow, imagine that. Imagine somebody making something that doesn't pander to you. How terrible.
This isn't Cinemaphile anon. We don't need to listen to shitty youtube patreon prostitutes or other dumbfricks. And complete your thought before posting. Even movie shill shitposting has standards.
Rotten Tomatoes is useless to me. I don't want to know If a movie is "passable", i want to know if it's above average and worth my time. A lot of reviewer ls give fresh ratings just for something not being awful.
That's what rotten tomatoes is though. That percentage is based on how many reviewers give it above 3/5 which is to say how many people say its actually worth going out and seeing vs waiting for home release or leaving it on in the background when it comes to cable.
>That's what rotten tomatoes is though.
Hence it being useless to me. This site quickly turns into things being celebrated for being just above mediocre.
>i want to know if it's above average and worth my time
In this case, not really. Even watching the camrip I didn't really feel like it was worth the time. Storyline is dumb and the characters aren't that likable (except Mondo Gecko) and the only good parts are a couple of action scenes that I'm sure will be be up on youtube in the next couple weeks.
>It's like a 6 out of 10
Would agree. I expected to be miserable, but I didn't hate it. Not nearly as funny or relatable as people claimed it was. The writing is dull as shit. Best parts are Superfly and Paul Rudd, but only because they're clearly having a lot of fun with the roles they got.
Reminder, Disney owns RottomTomatoes. Most reviews on that site are paid shills. Before you could trust the Audience Score on that site, but not anymore it seems.
I know, I've been buying bananas for my parents for years. But what could this even mean, in this case? Better get 80s April and then... like, wait? I don't even
>Whose behind the changes?
Jews >Why would learning about them make you hate the changes more?
I hate the people who make the changes more than the character changes themselves. There is clearly a personal agenda going on behind all the raceswapping of white characters.
>Whose behind the changes?
Jews >Why would learning about them make you hate the changes more?
I hate the people who make the changes more than the character changes themselves. There is clearly a personal agenda going on behind all the raceswapping of white characters.
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They're green before they turn yellow, moron
I guess? The big capitalist corporations are bleeding money to appease the lefties, anyone right of commiefornia has no good entertainment left, and this is the left celebrating their "victory" watching everything go down in flames
Because it's a genuinely great movie. The story is the strongest out of all the previous TMNT movies. The movie goes out of its way to make you have genuine sympathy for the main characters and that goes to the main antagonists as well which was completely out of left field for me.
The humor is extremely on point, I was having a hearty laugh all throughout my first viewing. Jackie Chan as Splinter definetly stole the show in that regard I have to say. He easily has the best bits.
The animation is pure eye candy. All the characters have unique and cool designs, even the regular human civilian characters. My favorite of the bunch has to be Rocksteady. His design is just pretty cool
It's easily a solid 10/10 in my eyes
>All the characters have unique and cool designs, even the regular human civilian characters. My favorite of the bunch has to be Rocksteady. His design is just pretty cool
Also this. Look at this "unique and cool" character design.
>despite all the names behind it, the promotion, and critics sucking off Seth Rogan, STILL loses out to Barbie, Oppenheimer and the fricking MEG 2
Absolute cancer being pushed as "LMAO THEY'RE REAL TEENS! BLAZE IT 420! xD!"
Just look at this fricking disgusting character design.
>Because it's a genuinely great movie.
It's a 4 out of 10 script with a couple of 6 out of 10 action scenes. Since they gutted too many things from the TMNT's origin and botched the others, the only way they can make things work is by handwaving them in and then pretending like they didn't. They have to have every character repeat their flimsy motivations and character traits repeatedly, because there's nothing else to fill the dead air with, which is incidentally why the scenes where they don't talk and the action takes the focus are the only good parts of the movie.
>MOVIE IS SHIT. CAMRIP IS OUT. IGNORE b***hES. TRUST YOUR EYES.
Easiest way to learn this movie is pretty mediocre and not even worth the energy homosexuals are putting into pretending it's got anything special going for it.
SuperDuperFly was an ugly, stupid finale, but the action scene was pretty well done. The animation team choreographed some decent fights, but I still think the overall plot, premise, and execution was terrible. It's a version of the TMNT that I barely wanted to watch one movie for. I don't want more movies and I don't want an entire series of them.
They do and you know what? It fricking sucks for those series too. We don't need a new modernized GI Joe every few years, just like we don't need a new reimagining of TMNT every few years.
It was pretty mediocre. Slightly better than the Bay TMNT movies but not by that much. Recency bias makes people elevate mediocrity if all they've been fed is trash for a while.
Yeah, it's their homosexuals parents who were just happy to make them shut the frick up for two hours while they dazed in and out of consciousness only paying attention to the action scenes
>confused about the anger over this movie >see that they're upset about it having good ratings and a mid screenplay, which many other highly rated films have as well
This is like PRIMOS all over again, except for U.S. white people lmao.
Mediocre things deserve to be criticized for what they are, rather than being celebrated for being "good enough", especially when half of hollywood is on strike and demanding more pay and better treatment for the rancid shit they serve up.
You're pretty much saying "okay, it's not great, but I don't like that you sound too angry when you say so!" which is homosexualry. It deserves to fail and every executive and producer responsible deserves to go bankrupt. Eat shit.
Skull-fricked idiots here are so unable to judge things on their own merit that they cry about literally everything. HOW??? I don't know - quality effort? Respecting the property? Talent? OP is at this moment sucking dick.
Its fun, my niece liked it. I actually laughed more than ATSV.
Paid reviews
>But grandpa struggled to stay awake, and he voted half a star!
Like anybody cares what a fricking boomer thinks.
Stale cope. Go leave.
>what is Shredder's Revenge
>what is Cowabunga Collection
>what is ROTMNT
>metacritic
Haven't you got a video game to reviewbomb?
Who are you quoting?
>metacritic
Also skews when they have a corporate interest to protect, but it at least has the benefit of actually averaging scores, instead of a percentage score of "good or not so good" like RT does. When you break it down and look at the scores critics actually gave MM, it totals out to a 7/10, same as Flash or Little Mermaid.
7/10 is the universal shill critic score for "it's really not that good, but it's not bad enough for us to burn bridges by giving any sort of thoughtful criticism about it"
>Who are you quoting?
People who think a TMNT movie for younger audiences should get an easy pass just because of it's rating. The 2007 movie proved that's bullshit
>People
Uh huh.
>what is Shredder's Revenge
>what is Cowabunga Collection
>what is ROTMNT
Shit nobody cared about except for TMNT fans
>Hollywood paying critics is just a /misc/ conspiracy theory
>All negative reviews are just review bombs from... uhm... the troll army!
Certified moron moment.
The part where you forgot to check your Redditspacing is icing on top.
What's the highest profile example of a movie company getting caught pubically paying for reviews?
Rotten Tomatoes purged negative reviews for Captain Marvel when it got down below 40% userscore you disingenuous homosexual.
>>what is ROTMNT
Exactly. Almost nobody knew it existed because Nick barely aired it and didn't even bother to make it accessible to watch on their app
Sometimes, fun things are fun
The joker were pretty bland imo. The type of humor that I can get by casually talking with a friends is unironically superior.
>The type of humor that I can get by casually talking with a friends is unironically superior.
You should laugh the most around friends, how are you framing it as strange that you laugh more with friends than at a cartoon?
This is so moronic I can’t believe i share this planet with someone like you
With that logic, the mario movie should've gotten a high critic score
The writing in the mario movie is nothing like things like this or across the spiderverse. Mario has literal toddler illumination writing.
The turtles saying rizz and Sus every five minutes while April vomits all over the place doesn't mean good writing, anon.
Did I say those things make the writing good or are you just going to continue to be moronic the whole thread?
You did compare the writing in this movie to ATSV, which this movie tried to be but fails on nearly every level.
Wait, anon was implying ATAV had good writing?
It's a movie about teenagers in 2023, that's how they talk anon. It's a Nickelodeon movie, it's for kids, not your 35 year old ass complaining it isn't the low budget cartoon you remember from the last time you were happy
>I-its kids movie what did you expect?!
Like clockwork
>heh, think you've got me cornered by pointing out that I'm mad about something that isn't catered to me specifically? That's where you're wrong pal, I anticipated this argument and have flipantly dismissed it!
Too many big words for a chud brain to comprehend.
Hey now, I’m pretty sure I enjoyed an orgasm once or twice since then.
>Kids movie arguement
I saw the movie and it was fine, but it doesn't deserve nearly the amount of praise it is getting. Their are "kids movies" like toy story, Shrek, how to train your dragon, kung fu Panda or any Miyazaki film, that has writing that both adults and kids can enjoy.
>It's not for you
Same fricking excuse every time
Usually starts with insistence that the new thing is as good or better than the original it's trying to replace. Then it turns into flinging shit and making excuses for why anyone could dislike it. Then it turns into excuses about how you're not supposed to like it, because it's not for you... and then eventually they just drop the act and say they always hated the TMNT anyways and it's all fricking stupid and frick you for having opinions and not just getting excited for next product.
Neither is “Cowabunga”
>Cowabunga
Been a staple phrase of the turtles for over two decades, the zoomer speak is a poor substitution for personality to get all the broccoli heads to cum and piss and shidt their pants and will never last nor add anything of substance to the characters.
Actually they stopped saying that with the 2012 cartoon and changed it to "Booyakasha" or something
NTA,But they also cowabunga too even rise so thats moot.
Tbh I partly watched 2012 and what I saw they were phasing it out and referenced it on their writers blogs. They probably walked back that from what ive seen.
Can any millennials ITT explain why you think teenagers should NOT speak like teenagers?
Teenagers don't actually talk like that. I know people are told by middle aged hollywood israelites that teens sound that way, but they just don't.
Yeah I liked this movie and I'm looking forward to the TV show and sequel film.
Ironically the posters on this board are more out of touch with teenagers than the Hollywood writers they're criticizing.
I regularly interact with high school kids and they got their mannerisms and habits down two a tea.
>April vomits all over the place
Is she pregnant?
>Implying that this movie has good writing
I find it hilarious that you made a post about writing but can’t read
>Mario movie has childish writing
Yes
>Compares this movies writing to spiderverse
No, this movie has zoomer one-note turtles who barley develop in any way, sheboon April who is nothing like the original, a pathetic splinter who learns martial arts from videos, villains who join the turtles almost instantly without any cool fight scenes, and to top it off Seth rogen tier humour.
Either you're moronic and don't know how to get your point across, or your just a shill.
It's hilarious how much of a homosexual you are
It’s similar in the sense that both this and the Mario movies have way too much “we think our audience is fricking moronic to pick up on themes or backstory, so we’ll just drown you in exposition and pointing out the themes.”
I’m genuinely shocked all these people want sing this movie ‘s praises when it’s just a more charming version of Illumination’s sawdust writing. There’s a couple moments of genuine charm that make me think it was a victim of focus group response based rewrites but I’m thoroughly convinced that this is the movie shitposters claim ITSV/ATSV/Last Wish is: a very mediocre kid’s movie with pretty stylization to mask its dogshit writing.
Still better than the Mario Movie though.
>I’m thoroughly convinced that this is the movie shitposters claim ITSV/ATSV/Last Wish is: a very mediocre kid’s movie with pretty stylization to mask its dogshit writing.
That's what they all are though, the last animated movie with good writing was Shrek 2
Shouldn't you be fighting your own demons in silence instead of posting on Chinese girl cartoon forums, Schaffrillas?
Shrek 2 isn’t funny it’s basically later family guy for children.
>There’s a couple moments of genuine charm that make me think it was a victim of focus group response based rewrites
People were saying this shit was amazingly good back when they played the unfinished cut at the film festival. It really just comes down to brainless homosexuals being impressed by the pseudo-sketchy low framerate animation style. Any moments of charm or witty writing were likely accidental and not because focus groups or executives meddled, since Rogen and Goldberg had almost total creative control.
Well that’s depressing, what makes those other movies work is how they use the on-two’s animation to give the action scenes impact and focus. It’s not just the choreography being good, it’s the use of impact frames that Spiderverse does or the scale play Last Wish uses to really sell the intensity of the fights alongside more dynamic framing. The closest thing this got was the anti-mutagen delivery in the climax, but everything else just felt kind of uninspired.
Fricking yeah, after watching it, it’s very apparent that the sketchy style is pulling way more weight than crowds than anything. At the very least, it makes me appreciate the good movies that use this stylization more, but what a fricking disappointment this turned out to be. I had to fight the urge to groan when they had Splinter point out the themaric parallel between him and Superfly to make sure the dummies understood what was going on, fricking Christ.
Because Seth Rogan is this generation's Shakespeare...he truly did write one for the ages, with such timeless dialogue as "we don't even have nipples!" and "You've got a rage problem raph."
Bing-bang-wahoo just can't compete.
Both this movie and the mario movie had the shittiest use of licensed music in an animated movie
God, this too. Completely forgot about it because of how little it added to the movie. Just like the fricking Mario movie.
I don't even get why mario has that music in it other than its Illuminations usual slop. Mario has a multi-decades long OST to pull from all across different genres.
It was a late change most likely from Illumination heads, every scene with licensed music had an original song it replaced that matched up with the motif of remixed/orchestrated Koji Kondo music. See: https://youtube.com/watch?v=gWI46-ibmzU&pp=ygUYbWFyaW8gbW92aWUgdW51c2VkIG11c2lj
They absolutely knew they had plenty of legendary music to work with, but they switched it anyways cause parents love listening to the same 5-6 tracks in every fricking animated movie they are forced to watch with their kids and it absolutely worked in their favor. All they had to do was say it was “80’s throwback” inspired to justify the laziness.
I'm still annoyed that Brian Tyler didn't say anything to the public abou that.
Oh wow frick Illumination, they're going to absolutely ruin Shrek
You know you've lose the argument went this is what you consider film criticism
He said sometimes
Mario movie wasn't progressive "woke" pandering, simply because Nintendo Japan wouldn't let them do that shit.
TMNT MM is dripping with Seth Rogen and his disgusting politics, like everything else he does. And the critics are slurping it up like the thirsty homosexuals they are.
There are alot of things wrong with this movie besides April
yet you only bring up April
no follow up questions for you, incel.
I brought up April because that's what you were implying?
Frick you and your consumer mindset
Only if you’re a chud.
The West has fallen unironically
Thanks!!! It was about time!
A lot of the general audience don't give a frick about TMNT, so any old bullshit is fine; Whereas something like Spider-Man or Batman have a bit more expectation to be a little more clever with its humor and writing
Evidently not since ATSV is the worst written and least funny Spider-Man ever yet has the highest rating
Also next worst performing
>A little more clever
>HE KICKED HIS OWN LE BUTT xD
More like the general normies have no concept of turtles other then 80s they will watch this zoomer trash and think it's new and interesting when the turtles going to fricking school is the least ninja shit ever.
The last TMNT property most people saw were the shitty Bay films, so anything was going to be good compared to that
Ugly morbidly obese black April only shows up for 6 mins in the entire movie
Aren’t there multiple threads about this in the catalog? Why attempt to turn this thread into another?
>keeping some of the details that makes her so iconic
Like what? Wearing yellow? That's not needed to be April.
>Like what?
yellow, red hair, shes a reporter. her race isnt the most important part. This is coming from someone who would have still liked it if she had remained white, especially considering how black coded the entire movie is. i havent seen it and im not in a rush to, i think casey jones is in it? dunno.
>shes a reporter
April being a reporter is surprisingly inconsistent. In about 50% of depictions she's a scientist. Usually Baxter Stockman's assistant or intern or something like that.
oh yeah, im moronic. she was a scientist in the comics, they made her a reporter in the cartoon so she will fluctuate between those two.
I'm pretty sure she owned a junk store in the 2003 cartoon and in the movies too (though she was a reporter, the junk store was just property she owned)
The junk store is something she typically inherits from her parents and her actual job varies. in 2003 she was a scientist, and they specifically make fun of her being a reporter in the 80s cartoon a few times.
>yellow, red hair,
2003 April didn't wear yellow (90% of the time. There might be a fanservice scene I'm forgetting)
90's movie April didn't either and I think she was blonde.
Rise has brown hair.
Honestly, I know people wanna say this started with Rise, but it started with 2012.
Older versions, she was always an adult who had a job which brought her into contact with the insane situation that is the TMNT. Not just her either, I'm noticing that every fricking character is aged down in the reboots of their 80s franchises
Yeah, since the 90's, but it's been more obvious since the 2000s I guess. Awful trend.
>"Relatable and grounded in the real world"
What?
Regular April looks a lot more "grounded" than this potato gremlin
1987 April is the main one used for videogames, crossovers and merch to this day, someone at Nickelodeon likes her
Also Shredder's Revenge is getting more DLC characters
>April in china
>Box in English stacked on top of the same exact box
?
People speculate that a chinese revision got accidentally slipped into western packaging. Won't know until shit releases in China, and somebody there can confirm, or deny.
It's funny though, because if this is just somehow a production mistake, then that 'rare white' April will be valued by collectors far more than the standard black April.
>You will never expand your girthy turtle meat into white goth April's tight butthole.
It hurts.
The white toy version kind of makes me think April and Erma did a fusion dance.
1987 turtles are used more in general is has nothing to do Nick liking her more.
cause that cartoon was massively popular. thats like wonder why Kirk and Spock keep getting merch. They still make Merch for fricking Bela Lugosi Dracula! Banana Raincoat April is Iconic, but newer versions of her are gonna be different.
They know that's the best and most popular version of her.
Really?
She's in there way more than that, actually see the fricking movie before spreading that fake shit.
>see the fricking movie
Nice try, but your shill marketing tricks don't work here.
>Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (1987 TV series): 10 seasons 193 episodes.
>Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (2003 TV series): 7 seasons 155 episodes.
>Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (2012 TV series): 5 seasons 124 episodes.
>Rise of the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (2018 TV series): 2 seasons 39 episodes.
I think the 2003 series waited too long to introduce the wilder aspects of TMNT.
It was a fairly street level show for 4 or so seasons and then there's magic and time travel and shit. It was pretty jarring.
>Rise of the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles
>2 seasons
LOL No one wants to see a black April O'Neil
I read a review of this and supposedly Leo is actually attracted to this April.
He fricking simps for her two
He says your mouth is perfectly shaped or something like that
Well she IS turtle shaped, so... yea, why not.
Wouldn't you?
Id rather frick the damn turtles
turtle cum
Powerful.
velma 2.0
>You're the most beautiful mutant I've ever seen
>I'm not a mutant
>...was one of your parents a mutant
>no
>grandparents?
>no
>what happened to your face then
I remember the same people defending Aprils new design were the ones who sperged the hardest over the Donatello/April shit in 2012 so that’s hilarious if true.
Leo's major trait is wanting a girlfriend and wanting to go to prom, and in the last scene, wanting to be a cool leader who pep talks his brothers.
She's not that obese but c'mon. Her height is twice her width. Maybe she's also a mutant.
If this is true, I might actually consider watching it now. when an hd torrent is available
I don't care for TMNT but it's fun seeing /chuds/ have a meltdown over the crushing success of this throwaway movie
>inb4 you're not better than us
yes I am.
>pic
Do they employees at Starducks call you She-Man by request, or does that slip when you ask them to call you "Serena?"
>chud
what the frick does that moronic buzzword mean it has been used so much lately and nobody's been able to give me a good definition
Unironically, it's a nothing word by trannies/Redditors to mean anyone who hates wokeshit.
Cannibalistic Humanoid Underground Dwellers
You have to realize that every group has become a protected class (morons, gays,etc.) so the far left can't use any word that would be demeaning to those existing groups. So they latched on the a made up word from a movie to be an insult.
The problem is that insults work because of their association with real negative traits, so using a word with no association to anything carries no bite. They can't keep calling EVERYONE nazis (people got tired of that after years) so they use their superspecial can't-insult-real-people word.
I literally only ever see it used on here and I kind of like it more now that I know it’s a film reference
It's a pretty good film.
It's a combination of Chuck+Sneed.
It tells you that the person who uses it isn't worth replying to
You can always tell an insult hits when the recipient's best reply is to feign confusion.
It's a reference to a Larry Cohen movie mutants that live in the sewers and eat the homeless. Where it's an Abbreviation of Cannibalistic Humanoid Underground Dwellers.
I didn't care about black April and I still thought it was mediocre sethslop
'verified' ratings
...Okay, yea, sure.
The actual audience rating may be equally as high, I don't care. But you shouldn't post the verified audience rating
It's slightly lower, but RT has purged negative reviews in the past.
I think the best indicator is looking at how many people find the top reviews on imdb helpful. Which, by that metric, this one's mixed.
lol
lmao even
>white boomer critics being out of touch
no surprise
The removal of The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari hurts me the most. I love that movie.
Why? Anon’s image doesn’t mean anything, the scores are about the same, but all that’s changed is that more people who call themselves film critics exist than they did back in the day. It’s like being sad there’s more articles written about a modern day natural disaster than the Chicago Fire of 1871
It's an excellent movie from a time these were made without the idea of "super stars" or big marketing with fantastic visual direction and I love it.
Again, anon’s image doesn’t mean anything. More people exist who have “film critic” as a side hustle, so they’re gonna write more reviews for things coming out than retrospects from German Expressionist pieces. Not like people are saying The Cabinet of Dr. Caligiri is bad, actually in their Black Panther reviews, Rotten Tomatoes is a dumb, metric based website that organizes shit by numbers. You’re getting sad over a shitpost picture.
This. Aggregate sites are utterly useless especially when an online shitflinging match has been started against something. The best thing to do is find 2 or 3 reviewers you actually trust and just read/watch them. Rotten Tomatoes and Metacritic have literally been making the internet more moronic with number go up number go down shit.
Right, I see now.
They dont even do that list any more because a bunch of 100% rated movies were just obscure movies that hate like 3 reviews from sites like ChristianMothersunited.com or DadReviewsMovies.com
It's because the Fresh/Rotten review system is fricking moronic and functionally useless for determining if a movie is actually good or not.
Both lists have moronic items on it. How the frick is E.T. That high up? How is A Hard Day’s Night up there?
>Fury Road
>not even literally any other Mad Max movie
It was good apparently
>Studio has low expectations probably a Tax right off
>Make dirt Cheap TMNT movie most likely with slave labor
>Spend little to no marketing on it seriously all the commercials came out like a 1 or 2 months before premier.
>Start Gay Splinter roomer for free marketing, so moron like some anons here can say "NAH UH MAN HE AINT GAY GONNA GO WATCH IT NOW"
>The break even milestone is dirt cheap the mountain to conquer was not eve a Dirt ant mound at 70 million
>OMG WE AT 50 MILLION WE ARE A HUGE SUCCESS
>Really_homie.jpeg
Yeah I can see HOW, when your expectations are "Ah I got mud on my shoes, WELL AT LEAST I DIDN'T STEP ON ANY SHIT"
Gay Splinter roomer for free marketing
What?
>Start Gay Splinter roomer for free marketing
Is he really gay?
No they scrapped that idea
No the bug person he gets with is a girl. One of the 100s of promo posters said “himself” which was actually an error because she doesn’t have any non gibberish lines
It's opening weekend was nearly twice as big as Elementals, and that movie went on to make $400 million while this TMNT movie had a budget of ten dollars and a handjob. It won't be a top ten movie by box office, but it'll maybe have the best ROI of anything except Mario
>It's opening weekend was nearly twice as big as Elementals, and that movie went on to make $400 million while this TMNT movie had a budget of ten dollars and a handjob. It won't be a top ten movie by box office, but it'll maybe have the best ROI of anything except Mario
Elemental had incredible legs, it's a stupid comparison. It did 3/5 of Lightyear at the opening, and went to outgross is at 5:4 domestic (and crush it overseas). TMNT could do it too, but it's not reasonable to expect it.
Somebody paid the “I like turtles” YouTube kid to come out and promote the film
>mfw they where one Dennys endorment away from flopping that would have put the the Break even line at 120 Million.
Lucky sons of b***hes
>Spend little to no marketing on it seriously all the commercials came out like a 1 or 2 months before premier.
Because no one can promote movies during the Strike.
They were still posting clips, interviews, and behind the scenes stuff the entire time the strike has been going on. Not to mention all the billboards, painted walls, and other installations. Mutant Mayhem was undeniably very advertised.
Incidentally, this is also a reason why the movie failing to break even is an even larger loss. That much advertising and promotion was not cheap.
>Incidentally, this is also a reason why the movie failing to break even is an even larger loss. That much advertising and promotion was not cheap.
the film has only been out for seven days, one Fri-Sun weekend, and it hasn't yet released in the majority of the international market and is at 60/70 million of it's official budget while opening against Barbenheimer. I doubt it's going to do spider-verse numbers but the breakeven point is so low it's just flat out going to hit in the next few weeks. It's got strong word of mouth so I'm thinking at least 200m, possible even Puss in Boots 2 numbers.
Not that many Audience reviews. Guess because they aren't "verified"
>believing review scores in current year + x
dood
It's a severely dumbed down take on the TMNT origin story that totally lacks substance and goes out of it's way to be as safe and boring as possible. There's nothing unique or refreshing about it unless you think being awful on purpose is some kind of artistic statement.
>There's nothing unique or refreshing about it
You're one of those gays who think subversions are the absolute pinnacle of media tropes, frick off tard
And you're one of those gays who can't read. It's not refreshing and it's not unique. It's a dumber, lamer, less interesting version of series that has existed for 40 years. It doesn't need to be subversive, but it needs to be good and this movie is not good.
Welcome to the state of modern art these days
>unless you think being awful on purpose is some kind of artistic statement.
This movie has some of the coolest frickign designs I've ever seen. I'm glad that a movie about mutants isn't afraid to look ugly. If I were like 9 years old, this shit would be all I talk about.
>"Mutant Mayhem is for younger audiences and quality doesn't matter! Also you're a dumb manchild if you criticize it."
Becasue its good.
The 99.9999999999999999% of the world aren't Cinemaphile posters.
That's not how Rotten Tomatoes works.
literally nothing else in theaters right now
The Meg 2 made 142Mil, opened 2 days after Mutant Mayhem, and reviewed like shit, actually.
the frick is meg 2?
Giant Shark movie. First one was shlock too, but also did really well in the box office.
>shark movie
another fricking one? remember when sharks were cool like 10 years ago?
There also re-releasing in theaters Sharknado next week
I swear discovery channel is the reason this shit keeps happening
The sequel to Family Guy: Meg
Sales, review aggregate scores, television ratings, and awards are the go-to statistics among trolls because they're too busy chasing their "precious" dopamine rush by behaving like anti social psychopaths to actually bother reading, watching, or playing anything, and instead just spend 5 seconds google searching and the rest of it making threads that blatently violate Global Rule 3. Civilized society would be infinitely better off if they were all subjected to immediate, involuntary, and indefinite institutionalization. But until that happens, fulfill your civic duty by reporting the OP as soon as possible and as much as possible.
https://sys.Cinemaphile.org/co/imgboard.php?mode=report&no=138732510
Haunted Mansion made more money.
As far as the audience score is concerned, it's selection bias. Only people highly motivated to see this movie went to it. It had a $28 million first weekend, which is good for a movie of this size and budget, but it's not a blockbuster. You're not getting a large cross-section of the general movie-going audience.
I haven't seen it but I'm hearing people like the art. Come to think of it, it WAS rather suspicious how everyone complaining about the art on Cinemaphile was so fixated on O'Neil being black and fat.
The art in this movie is intentionally grungy looking and I was surprised how vulgar this movie actually was. They say "damn" a few times, Superfly talks about "Big booty boy races," Spinter violently makes out with a bug monster, and April has an extended vomiting sequence. It feels like a modernized gross out cartoon.
>Big booty boy races
Excuse me?
beause some people dont judge an entire product because of one decision alone?
Keep trying. I'm some one day the whole board will believe you that people are just being shallow, and that this movie was actually a near perfect cinematic masterpiece. It's gonna happen. I believe in you. Just keep being a simple-minded homosexual and you'll be able to muster some sliver of self-worth from defending a bland corporate product.
This is still the best TMNT animated film.
>MM's release is on the 1 year anniversary of it
It’s alright. The animation from this show always came off as a little tryhard, and the small tiff that happened after one storyboarder posted a fricking near complete animation as their “boards” for this film cemented that perception for me
animation delight
dogshit writing
such many cases
Post woman king
>despite all the names behind it, the promotion, and critics sucking off Seth Rogan, STILL loses out to Barbie, Oppenheimer and the fricking MEG 2
Absolute cancer being pushed as "LMAO THEY'RE REAL TEENS! BLAZE IT 420! xD!"
Just look at this fricking disgusting character design.
At this rate I don’t think anything is beating Barbie. Hell I imagine it’ll dethrone Mario in a few more weeks. Wild shit.
Mario will at least remain the highest earning animated movie of the year
How the hell is this slop higher rated than Nimona?
Isnt that the e-girlshit made by the She-Ra reboot creator? Considering how messy that show was I can probably guess why
Still going to pirate it.
It might be time for you to accept the reality that people here are jaded bitter and mostly let their identity politics dictate their opinions and are 9 times out of 10 out of step with what the rest of the world is thinking.
I don't care how good the reviews are, I'm NOT watching another Seth Rogen movie.
What’d Rogen do?
Not that anon, but what amuses him does not amuse me.
I think that's a pretty good reason not to watch something.
He was born israeli. That's all it takes in post election Cinemaphile.
Besides being an extremely unfunny guy, and blaming Santa Inc.'s failure on white supremacy, the only other thing I can think of is when he told people that they should just accept break-ins as a completely normal part of life.
Huh. Literally my first time hearing about Santa Inc.
He used the same voice he used for Pumbaa in that god awful Lion King remake for Bebop in this movie.
Also dude weed lmao etc.
Shitty movies.
Him and kevin smith are the loser white dude stoner manchildren that actually ended up "making my movie" and got success. Its sour grapes from Cinemaphile
Maybe people are just salty that untalented, moronic fricks keep failing upwards and they're sick of seeing those same moronic fricks who can't act, write, direct, or even do voiceover getting jobs doing all of the above with obnoxious frequency.
my only question is...
CAN I KICK IT???
Why does everyone hate Seth Rogen so much now?
i liked him in Freaks & Geeks, 40 y/o virgin, Superbad, Pineapple Express, the interview, and more. The only thing I can think of that I hated was Sausage Party.
Yes ya can!
Shill detected.
>not hating everything makes you a shill
That's what I'm trying to figure out
They're hating the wrong Rogan.
He's Canadian and smokes a lot of good reefer.
>sausage party and how the animators were treated (was he aware?)
>his dumb laugh
>voice acting a bunch of shit, no thank you
>weed luh-mao (unironically)
>another israelite actor to miraculously appear in all your movies!
>not that funny
outside of that, he seems like an okay guy and i would rather Rogan than Abrams any day of the week.
Movie was so damn boring
It's bombing, so who cares
Lol
>pure copium
It's getting slaughtered by Barbie and the MEG 2.
Cinemaphile is gonna Cinemaphile and declare films a flop 2 minutes after they release but it should be obvious why The Meg 2 outgrossing it isn't even really a fair comparison. One is clearly a kid's film that hasn't released to most of its international territories including China yet and the other is a big budget adult film that needs a lot more to break even.
It's a popular preexisting IP and brand that's been around for decades. The fact it's being beaten by the fricking MEG 2 IS relevant you moronic shill. A family friendly movie like TMNT should be in the top spot for at least a month.
It's garbage and cancer, and no matter how hard you shill no one wants this trash.
>[fanfiction]
Paramount should hire you to steer their ship.
Meg 2 seems like a dumb movie that people want to watch to hoot and holler at with the audience. This TMNT movie is probably gonna drop on Paramount+ or Netflix not too long after and most families would rather hold out for that than spend $21-$45 dollars on movie tickets alone and overpriced concessions. I saw this movie and it sucked, but I think that’s more why the turnout has been low: families don’t wanna watch movies with other loud ass kids when a cheaper alternative like streaming exists.
>but I think that’s more why the turnout has been low: families don’t wanna watch movies with other loud ass kids when a cheaper alternative like streaming exists.
>bigger marketing budget
>bigger outreach thanks to Nintendo Direct appealing directly to Nintendrones
>Novelty of the first big budget Nintendo movie since the 80s Mario movie
>has a significantly bigger chokehold on the Zeitgeist than TMNT ever did
I said what I said and I stand by it. Families do not wanna spend the money to go to theaters in it probably, and this is not an excuse to explain it’s apparent underperformance, I thought Mutant Mayhem was kind of shit. I’m just giving my best guess.
As a sidenote, I find it funny that the conversation for this movie begins and ends with “it made a lot of money.” It really is an Illumination film with Mario slapped on it, huh.
Also, that movie was marketed for like 4 years
marketing budget
Citation, otherwise you're full of shit.
outreach thanks to Nintendo Direct appealing directly to Nintendrones
Ok.
of the first big budget Nintendo movie since the 80s Mario movie
>80s Mario movie
>80s
At least know enough about what you're talking about before you spew bullshit.
>has a significantly bigger chokehold on the Zeitgeist than TMNT ever did
Ok. So anyway, apparently families didn't mind going out to see Mario movie in theatres. Everything else you said is moving goalposts.
>it made a lot of money
So, should we only go by critic score? Because Mario movie has a great user score by contrast, and critics hated it. So tell me anon, how should we all measure the quality of a movie, and why are you defending this cancer so hard when you clearly hate the Mario movie?
Why are you getting so needlessly aggressive? I don't care if the Mario movie made more money than TMNT, I didn't like either, I'm just inferring reasons why the former had more direct returns in the box office
>Citation, otherwise you're full of shit.
The fricking aggressive cross promotions with Lush, McDonald's, and and all the other fricking companies they worked with didn't clue you in? Releasing it very close to the opening of Super Nintendo Land? Fricking... all the goddamn commercials for it? Do you need me to cite every single one of them as if you could not see and hear it with your eyes and ears?
>At least know enough about what you're talking about before you spew bullshit.
Oh no, I got the decade of the massive flop piece of shit movie that scared Nintendo from movies up till now wrong, there was absolutely no curiosity from the public to see how a theatrical Nintendo movie would play out after 30 YEARS of never allowing Hollywood near their ips would work out, so sorry anon.
>So anyway, apparently families didn't mind going out to see Mario movie in theatres. Everything else you said is moving goalposts.
Can you explain why would I want to move goalposts for, anon? I do not ascribe my personal well being with how much a movie I liked made in the box office, and I especially don't do that for movies I dislike (hint: Mutant Mayhem) nor do I gain anything for giving some speculations as to why the movie that got hyped for 4 fricking years vs some piece of shit dime a dozen TMNT reboot got more seats in theaters. TMNT is Nick property and is probably going to be on Paramount+ very soon. There is no real incentive to go out to watch it in theaters, especially when you know it'll drop on streaming soon vs the palpable excitement and speculation over the fricking Mario movie. What do you want from me?
Mario Movie's marketing campaign was the franchise itself. Nintendo just opened a fricking mario theme park
Arguably the movie itself is the "marketing" for the franchise, not the other way around. Just like the TMNTs media is marketing for their fricking action figures.
It's a lame and weak argument that Nintendo had a "bigger marketing budget" when your argument is that Mario games/ entertainment venues exist. We all know it's not the same thing.
>It's a lame and weak argument that Nintendo had a "bigger marketing budget"
They did. They advertised it for longer, had multiple collaboration campaigns with big name franchises to push the movie specifically, actively pushed said movie's advertisement into their own advertising queue. They had cute little fake websites and numbers you could call to get Luigi talk to you and advertise the movie.
Just a preface, this is not to say "waaah poor little TMNT", that also had some fairly meaty advertisement. Mario was just more aggressive and more prominent for much longer. Because it's an Illumination movie and those campaigns work.
Midnight’s Edge has gotten so cringe
I'll bite since it's been sometime since I've bothered to hear them cause of my schedule. When did they start falling off, anon.
It was good
No woke, go croak.
Superfly was literally a Hotep allegory.
>Ya'll not real mutants. Fake ass mutants!
I think rogan hires bots for his movie reviews.
Oh no I don't want people to think I support Trump better blindly love this move no matter how shit it is.
have a nice day Seth. You're the worst part of everything you're in.
>copied pasted bernie meme
ya'll just terminally unoriginal.
It was actually really enjoyable
They don't show the all audience score anymore, only "verified" scored because movies were getting their scores nuked and it got politicized
Turns out Racist hating on april are dumb as frick. morons even.
His character trait was that he loves anime
It's almost impressive that they had years to work on the script and an entire movie to develop them as characters and their traits are Simp, Weeb, Hates his family, and Improv.
April peaked with tmnt 2012 with underaged teenage April, also they kept frickimg up splinter.
>make show for kids
>kids like it
>parents spend money for kids to see show
>whiny neckbeards b***h about it on Cinemaphile
>show ends up a success
>make show for 30-year-old neckbeards
>kids don't like it
>parents don't spend any money
>whiny neckbeards b***h about it on Cinemaphile
>show makes no money
Oh wow, imagine that. Imagine somebody making something that doesn't pander to you. How terrible.
It's not a show
Anon, I find your trivial rebuttal to be shallow and pedantic.
So well suited to your initial gaslighting post.
Fricking lol, Cinemaphile wrong, Viacom wins again
Let's see how you do a U-turn on whether it was woke or not just like with Girlboss Mario
This isn't Cinemaphile anon. We don't need to listen to shitty youtube patreon prostitutes or other dumbfricks. And complete your thought before posting. Even movie shill shitposting has standards.
which had the best butt?
87 wins again
Rotten Tomatoes is useless to me. I don't want to know If a movie is "passable", i want to know if it's above average and worth my time. A lot of reviewer ls give fresh ratings just for something not being awful.
That's what rotten tomatoes is though. That percentage is based on how many reviewers give it above 3/5 which is to say how many people say its actually worth going out and seeing vs waiting for home release or leaving it on in the background when it comes to cable.
>That's what rotten tomatoes is though.
Hence it being useless to me. This site quickly turns into things being celebrated for being just above mediocre.
>i want to know if it's above average and worth my time
In this case, not really. Even watching the camrip I didn't really feel like it was worth the time. Storyline is dumb and the characters aren't that likable (except Mondo Gecko) and the only good parts are a couple of action scenes that I'm sure will be be up on youtube in the next couple weeks.
because it's good
it's a 6/10 movie, at best.
Because it’s a good movie & everyone here has elitist shit taste.
>it's good if you have low standards
Really proud of your shit taste, huh?
>not liking something = having standards
moron
Liking something because you have low standards doesn't mean it's good, my simple homosexual.
Disliking something doesn't mean that the people who like said thing have low standards.
That's literally what it means when something is lacking in positive qualities.
>something is lacking in positive qualities.
In your opinion.
You forgot
>RT treating 3/5 reviews as a 100% positive endorsement
You guys need to remember that most people aren't TMNT fanboys.
That said, the movie was ok, better than I thought it'd be for sure, but not without it's issues. It's like a 6 out of 10
>It's like a 6 out of 10
Would agree. I expected to be miserable, but I didn't hate it. Not nearly as funny or relatable as people claimed it was. The writing is dull as shit. Best parts are Superfly and Paul Rudd, but only because they're clearly having a lot of fun with the roles they got.
Paid shills. The movie is barely going to cover it's basic budget.
Reminder, Disney owns RottomTomatoes. Most reviews on that site are paid shills. Before you could trust the Audience Score on that site, but not anymore it seems.
Not to mention they change the way they measure user reviews and scores after every "review bombing" incident.
>Disney owns RottomTomatoes
Then why did Elemental get shit reviews?
First, they reduce her breast size. Then they turn her into a e-girl. Afterwards, they blackwash her followed by making her look as ugly as possible.
The more I learn about the people behind these changes, the more I grow to hate them.
but green bananas aren't ripe
Generally better to buy them green. They last longer at your house that way.
Unless you want a banana the minute you get back home.
I know, I've been buying bananas for my parents for years. But what could this even mean, in this case? Better get 80s April and then... like, wait? I don't even
Whose behind the changes? Why would learning about them make you hate the changes more?
>Whose behind the changes?
Jews
>Why would learning about them make you hate the changes more?
I hate the people who make the changes more than the character changes themselves. There is clearly a personal agenda going on behind all the raceswapping of white characters.
They're green before they turn yellow, moron
So '87 April is premature and tastes gross and '03 April is just right? Based
I'm not surely
realizes this
>Then they turn her into a lol
I don't think you know what e-girl means.
Wow, the right really lost the culture war, huh?
I guess? The big capitalist corporations are bleeding money to appease the lefties, anyone right of commiefornia has no good entertainment left, and this is the left celebrating their "victory" watching everything go down in flames
>big capitalist corporations are bleeding money
Based commies killing Pedowood.
You say this, but guess who wants kids on gay parades... it's more like spreading legalizing pedowood.
You don't deserve good entertainment
More like you don't want any, so you don't want anyone to have it.
Go chew on your lemons.
>green bananas
Maximum bait or the people who post on Cinemaphile no longer buy groceries for fear that the woke is pushing real food on them.
Clearly, anon preferred TMNT03 April over 80s cartoon April.
Well now that just doesn't make sense.
Who the frick would do that?
I appreciate the tummie for all of us tummie enthusiasts in the 2003. Shame about the pants.
nice meme
Because it's a genuinely great movie. The story is the strongest out of all the previous TMNT movies. The movie goes out of its way to make you have genuine sympathy for the main characters and that goes to the main antagonists as well which was completely out of left field for me.
The humor is extremely on point, I was having a hearty laugh all throughout my first viewing. Jackie Chan as Splinter definetly stole the show in that regard I have to say. He easily has the best bits.
The animation is pure eye candy. All the characters have unique and cool designs, even the regular human civilian characters. My favorite of the bunch has to be Rocksteady. His design is just pretty cool
It's easily a solid 10/10 in my eyes
>The animation is pure eye candy.
If it wasn't obvious, this is where it becomes obvious that it's a shill. No person in real life talks this way.
They even told you it was supposed to look like shit.
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/08/04/movies/spider-man-versus-teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles.html
cry more
the style is here to stay
Every line about your homosexual post makes me want to shove you in a locker for being such an effeminate homosexual.
I'm a different person, moron.
No, I'm talking about (you) and your "durr durr here an article i copypaste / [thought terminating cliche]"-self, you candyassed homosexual.
It's a fad and it won't stick around simply because it's not fit for every kind of movie.
Most animated movies arent doing 2d 3d hybrids like this though. In between the two spiderverse movies the only thing similar was Puss in Boots 2
>the style is here to stay
Not if every movie using it flops like they have so far
>All the characters have unique and cool designs, even the regular human civilian characters. My favorite of the bunch has to be Rocksteady. His design is just pretty cool
Also this. Look at this "unique and cool" character design.
Btw, here's that "pretty cool" Rocksteady.
>Because it's a genuinely great movie.
It's a 4 out of 10 script with a couple of 6 out of 10 action scenes. Since they gutted too many things from the TMNT's origin and botched the others, the only way they can make things work is by handwaving them in and then pretending like they didn't. They have to have every character repeat their flimsy motivations and character traits repeatedly, because there's nothing else to fill the dead air with, which is incidentally why the scenes where they don't talk and the action takes the focus are the only good parts of the movie.
I could keep going, but you're a homosexual.
I'm glad you liked it anon. Even posted something straight from the media kit. MOVIE IS SHIT. CAMRIP IS OUT. IGNORE b***hES. TRUST YOUR EYES.
We understand.
>MOVIE IS SHIT. CAMRIP IS OUT. IGNORE b***hES. TRUST YOUR EYES.
Easiest way to learn this movie is pretty mediocre and not even worth the energy homosexuals are putting into pretending it's got anything special going for it.
I thought the movie was fine, but I hate the overdone "milking" jokes and April puking all over the place. It was just pure "Seth rogen".
Considering this board loved Superjail you'd think they'd understand appealing ugliness.
>appealing ugliness
Yeah, stuff like Superjail or King Star King.
It was a really fun movie with a really fun artstyle. The whole April shit was from a vocal minority.
Hold up. First, name your favorite scene. Second. Did you like sausage party?
I thought the movie was fricking trash, but deliberately so, but I dont' expect everyone to think as I do.
>The whole April shit was from a vocal minority.
I await the day this version is called a disgusting racial caricature.
The scene where they took on the mob bosses, car chase scene, and the last chapter with Superfly. And no, never saw Sausage Party and never plan to.
SuperDuperFly was an ugly, stupid finale, but the action scene was pretty well done. The animation team choreographed some decent fights, but I still think the overall plot, premise, and execution was terrible. It's a version of the TMNT that I barely wanted to watch one movie for. I don't want more movies and I don't want an entire series of them.
>I don't want more movies and I don't want an entire series of them.
Bad news friend, before the movie even released they said they have a sequel and series in the works.
That's why shills are pushing this so hard, despite no one genuinely wanting it.
So you can see why I am understandably cranky about the whole thing.
I also enjoyed the scene where all the mutants are just hanging out at the bowling alley together
I mean still not the worse.
They can’t keep rebooting this shit. Just make a never ending series if you want to milk it that badly.
You act like most long running 80/90s toy commercial series dont constantly reboot
They do and you know what? It fricking sucks for those series too. We don't need a new modernized GI Joe every few years, just like we don't need a new reimagining of TMNT every few years.
Power Rangers is still great, even considering they started nostalgia pandering shit in the shows.
It was pretty mediocre. Slightly better than the Bay TMNT movies but not by that much. Recency bias makes people elevate mediocrity if all they've been fed is trash for a while.
Some of you are really angry about this? Damn.
>Dude you're mad about Star Wars<insert title>? Damn.
>Dude you're mad about DC<insert title>? Damn.
>Dude you're mad about Marvel <insert title>? Damn.
Yes anon, some people don't like it when a series they care about gets shit all over by someone like the "permanent teenager Seth Rogen."
But you, you keep consuming and don't ask questions.
What is it about this movies that's attracting all you annoying teenagers to defend it?
>What is it about this movies that's attracting all you annoying teenagers to defend it?
Nice try Shredder
Maybe its comfort,
Maybe its the laughs we shared watching the Turtles love and grow and mutate.
It looks fun.
I noticed there is no spamming about its box office.
Cinemaphile isn't the majority
>Verified Reviews
I agreed with its politics, so I gave it a good review. You have a problem with that, chud boy?
When will you autistics learn 10 year olds don't give a shit about source material.
Those who put these reviews are not ten years old
Yeah, it's their homosexuals parents who were just happy to make them shut the frick up for two hours while they dazed in and out of consciousness only paying attention to the action scenes
true
>confused about the anger over this movie
>see that they're upset about it having good ratings and a mid screenplay, which many other highly rated films have as well
This is like PRIMOS all over again, except for U.S. white people lmao.
Mediocre things deserve to be criticized for what they are, rather than being celebrated for being "good enough", especially when half of hollywood is on strike and demanding more pay and better treatment for the rancid shit they serve up.
Its fair to criticize, but its pretty fricking moronic to overreact in a way that makes it laughable.
You're pretty much saying "okay, it's not great, but I don't like that you sound too angry when you say so!" which is homosexualry. It deserves to fail and every executive and producer responsible deserves to go bankrupt. Eat shit.
>continuing to act more like the Oye Primos chimpout
Kek
It was a good film
Skull-fricked idiots here are so unable to judge things on their own merit that they cry about literally everything. HOW??? I don't know - quality effort? Respecting the property? Talent? OP is at this moment sucking dick.
>quality effort? Respecting the property? Talent?
found the skull-fricked idiot.
>I don't know - quality effort? Respecting the property? Talent?
That could work, but what did this movie do?
Fun movie. Cute turtles.