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Seriously? He canceled everything but the shitty Mindy Kaling Velma Self Insert show?
self insert shows are the only thing they care about anymore, look at gravity falls or amphibia or the owl house, they know there's money in that shit.
It's just annoying that the creators are just this autistic.
All writers self-insert on their first big production. You know the quote "Most first novels are disguised autobiographies." Whenever someone begins writing professionally, they always start with writing what they know.
Is Craig a PowerPuff Girl?
>amphibia or the owl house, they know there's money in that shit
why do you Cinemaphilemblrinas keep trying to push the narrative that these shows were successful?
Well clearly not since owl house got cancelled
Is there any pattern to what WAS cancelled?
Actually yeah
If your media
>Is a series and not a HBO Max movie
>Is close to finished production or done production
>Is backed by personal friends of Zaslav like Spielberg, Kaling, etc
You have a hell of a better chance not getting cut
Animated shows that weren't going to be completed by the end of Q1 2023. HBO Max is shifting away from cartoons in general, but if the show was far enough along they'll just air it at this point, the complete rebrand isn't until Q3 2023. The notion of the rebrand is literally to just shift HBO back to where it was pre-Max, and HBO was never really a place for cartoons.
why not just put the cartoons on cartoon network? like back in the day? of 2014?
Tiny Toons at least is going to CN
Cost is what matters. We're just not privy to every variable in the calculation.
The show may be cheaper to produce because she's the only celeb voice.
Kaling may have an ironclad development contract with WB, and buying it out is expensive.
This may be the one token show they use to counter the "Zaslav is anti-minority" narrative the media is concocting.
Who knows, it might even be testing well.
>This may be the one token show they use to counter the "Zaslav is anti-minority" narrative the media is concocting.
Zaslav is a minority though
>This may be the one token show they use to counter the "Zaslav is anti-minority" narrative the media is concocting.
He never touched live action shows / documentary that promote trannies. Black people still exist in HBOmax. They even added a black in Game of thrones.
I'm not sure any cartoon he axe made a political statement.
I'm not saying Zaslav is any of those thing, but the media certainly has been, and one would have to be very obtuse to deny it. They want to bury this guy.
I think even if he were to go about this purely based on dollars and cents, he will have to make some concessions because PR is part of business, even if it's been completely overblown in the age of social media. Velma might be that.
>They even added a black in Game of thrones.
There was always some POC in the books and Og show you /misc/ gay
>PoC
>Old Valeria
Literally ALBINO white with white hair and violet eyes. As per usual you could have gotten your hekkin representationirino through the actual cultures the show jumps to, but instead murdered all mystery and subtext by kanging up the Velaryons to the show's continued detriment. Any plot about a Velaryon = they're getting fricked over or cucked, so GG with the stunt casting.
Sure
Cartoon Network Studios
>Driftwood
>Untiled Movie by Raj Brueggemann
>Trick Moon
>The Wondeful Wingits
CANCELED but not made by CN Studios and WBA
>Lumberjanes
PAUSED
>Batman Caped Crusaders
-Looney Tunes The Day That Earth Blew Up
>Bye Bye Bunny A Looney Tunes Musical
>The Amazing World Of Gumball Movie
>The Powerpuff Girls Reboot by Craig McCracken
>Foster's Home For Imaginary Friends Preschool Mid-quel Series
>Genndy Tartakovsky's projects from his overall development deal
>The Powerpuff Girls Reboot by Craig McCracken
>Foster's Home For Imaginary Friends Preschool Mid-quel Series
>Genndy Tartakovsky's projects from his overall development deal
I haven’t seen anything suggesting these are paused
According to Craig, both reboots haven't been been pitched, i don't understand why WBD made a PR of two shows that haven't even been greenlight and are on the pitching process.
Genndy is like a lightning rod of ceo israeliteery. Also that fosters idea sounds awful and should never have been greenlit.
To be fair the leaked storyboard shows exactly why Sony cucked him out of the Popey reboot.
>it was the israeliteery
inane plot. Complete and total character assassination of Popey, reframed as a weirdo with a comedy sidekick invented whole cloth, complete with a15 minute cross dressing scene.
There isn't much meat on the bone for a "modern" adaptation of Popey. In the cartoons he's either a white trash fisherman fighting over a woman and/or committing domestic violence or a US navy sailor on shore leave in military propaganda. A faithful adaptation would be pretty neat, but as the leaked storyboard shows it isn't something we'd ever get.
The paused projects you mentioned are still in production, they're just homeless for now
>The paused projects you mentioned are still in production, they're just homeless for now
If they don't get picked up by another studio soon then they will be dead insted of homeless, I have a feeling Disney will buy out WB content.
As long as I get to see my silly Porky/Daffy movie I don't mind, but I'm curious about that Batman show too
>I have a feeling Disney will buy out WB content.
I will eat a cactus before I watch a Looney Tunes movie on Disney+.
Oh please the paused projects whch were mentioned have been homeless for some time now if any studio wanted to pick up that shit then they most likely would have done so already, as it they will most likely get cancelled for real soon since nobody will acquire them.
> CANCELED but not made by CN Studios and WBA
>Lumberjanes
Source?
>Trick Moon
>The Wondeful Wingits
these were not canceled by Discovery, they were dead long before the merger
>Lumberjanes
there's no word this is dead yet, also it was only ever in development
>The Powerpuff Girls Reboot by Craig McCracken
>Foster's Home For Imaginary Friends Preschool Mid-quel Series
>Genndy Tartakovsky's projects from his overall development deal
Craig said neither PPG or Foster's have started development yet, he's only signed on to make them. same with Genndy, he's not developing any new shows right now and is focused on finished Unicorn and Fixed
the only thing they scrapped was HBO Max's movie slate. all of the animated shows, especially these adult ones greenlit by the Max Original team, are still going forward
wait the producer was also the lead?
Maybe it wasn't cancelled because it's already been paid for.
Thank you Blackrock.
Why do people act as if Zaslav has some kind of anti-"""sjw""" agenda instead of being just another business guy just saving money by cancelling a lot of things?
>just another business guy just saving money by cancelling a lot of things
This. People give him too much credit to think he really considers his decisions when it comes to animation. In Zaslav's world, animation is for children so who gives a frick what gets put on the chopping block? He needs to cut x number of shows so he just picked some and moved on. He'd be more concerned about live action stuff because adults matter.
What is even SJW about a narcissistic woman self inserting into a character? That's just what women are like.
This particular woman happens to be brown, so in this instance it's very political, you see.
If Mindy voiced a white Velma in a normal Scooby cartoon no one would care. Instead, this is an "adult" show where Shaggy is black, Velma's a pajeet, Daphne's raised by lesbians and Fred was described like this:
>Much like the original Fred, our Fred is a white guy who loves to take credit for everyone else’s work. But our Fred is also a pretty boy gym rat, riddled with daddy issues big enough to make Eric Trump say “damn.” And yet, Fred knows that no matter how douchey he acts, he’ll never live up to his father’s expectations. Because Fred has a deep dark secret. He’s sixteen years old and hasn’t gone through puberty yet. Worse. His secret is getting harder and harder to hide.
>Not just from his father but from his girlfriend, Daphne. Who’s getting a little bored with just over-the-clothes stuff. Fortunately, Fred is wrongly imprisoned for murders he didn’t commit
I plan on ignoring this, but it would've been nice if it got the Zaslav slash.
So fred is a troon. so stunning and brave.
I think at this point they just make things like this just to prove how moronic people can be. Its like that Rogan israelite santa claus movie that no one watched.
Anyone reading this will automatically know its going to tank worse than shehulk, and be forgotten the week after it comes out. Because the the people with subscriptions wont watch it, and neither will the freaks who "show support" because they have no money and are terminally online.
>Shaggy is black
Why do you need to make things up to be upset. The series is before she meet the gang.
This site's had accurate information about WB shit in the past. The Mystery Inc characters might not be mainstays in the show, but they'll probably show up.
>Before Shaggy was America’s favorite self-medicating, squeaky-voiced teenager, with an undiagnosed eating disorder, he was Norville Rogers – the excitable, Black, handsome, and mildly spectrum editor-in-chief of Poortown High’s student newspaper, The Ranting Townie. Unfortunately, he was also completely oblivious to any and all social norms and cues, which is helpful when tracking down a story, but less good when it comes to being the closest thing Velma has to a friend. However, when Norville discovers a dark secret in his family’s past, Velma will be the only person who can help him make sense of his unraveling life. At least until, you know, he discovers weed and snacks.
https://thegww.com/exclusive-hbo-max-velma-character-descriptions/
>brand new literal who website from nobodies outside of the industry
Why is it always a new website for this outlandish claim? In the show creator own words its before mystery inc.
I will forever be pissed that the Looney Tunes musical film is permanently cancelled but this shit is allowed to air
The movie is being reworked into a full-fledged musical because the executives really liked the songs written by Tom Kitt
>riddled with daddy issues big enough to make Eric Trump say “damn.”
so this is an exaggeration now or
I don't know about any of that but the premise sounds sanctimonious.
there's the cope I expected to see
Trying to manufacture a narrative, being a sane businessman is all that is needed to improve the animation industry vastly. It makes failure after failure. Y'all are inserting ideology into it
Based Zaslav. I'm SO glad Zaslav did this to show two things:
1. These people do not care and are only looking to make money
2. Majority of fans are in an abusive relationship with these companies. The moment they give something that's new or has potential all is forgiven until the next time they'll screw you over.
This, too many people are farming ragebait over this. IMO? Move on and and detach yourself so you aren't like r/InfinityTrain going through the 8 Stages of Grief of scrambling to spend money on DVDs or trying to mass download all the episodes to have whenever.
>SJW
cringe
>anti-SJW
cringe
There would be too much negative press if they canned this. This is why so many folks are woke nowadays. If you make a big stink online about how much of an ally you are it makes it neigh impossible for companies to fire you because it looks bad on them.
Didn't stop him from cancelling Batgirl.
It really blows that they fully finished that movie and it will never see the light of day, but it's possible that it really really sucked. Like...maybe it was obvious that it was going to bomb so it was more profitable to take the tax break and run.
I'm not saying I agree with the practice, but if it was going to be a repeat of Halle Berry's Catwoman, I can understand the decision.
Well that's assuming Zaslav has taste and I don't think the guy does have any taste.
Never assume penny pinchers have taste.
Batgirl was canned because the reboot isn't happening anymore
Yeah no, companies are just waking up that woke failures will destroy their companies
You're saying this in the Velma thread. Reboot's off. They woke up to the fact that a universe without Superman and a 70 year old Batman was moronic
Didn't you come out of the closet recently
It's a cartoon, very few people know or even care about it.
My kink is watching Mindy going from a fairly decent 6/10 in the office to a face melting,horrific plastic surgery disaster'd uggo 43 year old.
I want to recreated that scene in Hook where all the kids push on Robin Williams face to find the young Peter Pan with her and my dick. The best part is that it works either way. I push on her face with my dick, she gets younger, she pushed on my dick with her face and I get a creamy steamy.
Double win.
>Scoob sequel with the animation already done gets cancelled
>this is allowed to stay
Either Zaslav is a bunch of chimps in a long coat or he's a rogue agent trying to crash this shit with no survivors on purpose
>Scoob sequel
good riddance
>cancel multiple shows, making everyone hate him
>company still in the shitter
and we have people here asking when did the MCU died.
>cancel multiple shows
He wrote-off mostly shows that were already considered "failures" in the corpos' eyes, and the ones that did attract some following (Mao Mao, Infinity Train, OKKO) were already screwed over not long before he took his position.
So that it can fail on its own terms?
I still think this shit will get cancelled. She-Hulk's bad ratings will be paid attention to closely.
Yo Mindy Kaling lost alot of weight. Like holy shit dude
My issue is this. Who is this for?
>The Daphne and Velma movie fell on its ass, showing that "feminist Scooby Doo" demographic isn't there.
>Velma's never been a particularly GREAT character fandom is largely artificially based around people feeling she's robbed of credit, the LGBT thing. and coomers liking her better than Daphne.
>There's no particularly smart commentary on scooby beyond "an actual murder this time" which has been a common joke for years.
>No one asked for a raunchy scooby doo adult animation
There's no real answer here as to who this is even for beyond coomers spite watching it and lesbians watching it to spite coomers.
There's no real goal here
>Thinking Zaslav was ever on our side
I have Say this before, I think this show is for the Harley Quinn audience, the style of the stills looks like The Venture Bros art but I don't know for sure if that by itself will attract any audience, the real question (for me) is if the fan base of Scooby Doo wil be divided? but NOT so much because Velma is black (or whatever) but because of the tone of an IP that has been consistently family friendly.
Worst fricking timeline.