Excercise and stretching. What's that series of movies with Sam? I remember they used to have them on Prime Video. Jackie made an appearance in a few as a small role.
I think it was Jackie Chan who said he looked like a Panda but moved like a monkey. Whoever it was, it's very true. Sammo was responsible for so much of what made Hong Kong action movies great, he directed and choreographed way more than he was on screen, which was already a lot.
Yeah, the Lucky Stars movies are nowhere near as good as they're hyped up to be (unlike Project A). That said, the scene where the one guy thinks he's invisible is pretty funny.
I hate how fricking impossible it is to find the uncut version of most HK action flicks. It's one thing for streaming sites to not have them, but most torrent sites don't have them either. I've been looking for months and I can't find an uncut Armor of God anywhere.
He trained at the same school as jackie chan and bao yen. That school literally tortured children to get them to be able to do such incredible feats of martial arts skill.
The school no longer exists coz it's completely illegal. We will never see shit on the same level as their movies ever again.
I mean sure it’s nice that they don’t torture kids anymore but it sad that we will never get 80s/90s level Hong Kong action flicks again.
Probably too expensive to insure a movie like those too
They really weren't. Compare his stuff too 80-90s Hong Kong and there is no comparison to how much more beautiful and smooth the fight choreography and stunts were coming out from Hong Kong.
>That school literally tortured children to get them to be able to do such incredible feats of martial arts skill
Any chance North Korea is secretly making kino?
Padded. It’s why guys wear suits and other clothes that cover their whole body, so they can hide the pads from the camera. The guys body seems too big for his face, he’s definitely padded up. The neck definitely took a beating though
Training and skill, rare there days because of homosexuals like
He trained at the same school as jackie chan and bao yen. That school literally tortured children to get them to be able to do such incredible feats of martial arts skill.
The school no longer exists coz it's completely illegal. We will never see shit on the same level as their movies ever again.
Winners and Sinners. That and My Lucky Stars are my favorite HK movies and I don't know why. Other movies have better kung fu/action and the humor is juvenile but I love them.
>the one female character in the movie >the joke is how all the guys try to rape her
Sure it’s funny the first time but they kind of repeat the joke in the Lucky Stars trilogy
I am missing good stunts so fricking much bros.
Although shitty writers are just as much to blame for that as anybody, not like good stuntmen are all gone.
There's not nearly enough, but Everything Everywhere All At Once had some pretty good fight scenes, and seeing Michelle Yeoh back in action was really nice. I wish there had been (a lot) more in the film, since the few we got were genuinely pretty good. Not as good as 80s HK, but leagues better than everything else today.
>instead of training new martial arts stars we'll just keep dragging out Jet Li, Jackie Chan and Michelle Yeoh until they die on set
not too pleased with this timeline
I know, it's rough. I love them, but they're all clearly aging with their best stunt days behind them. I've read interviews with Sammo where he not so subtly blames the CCP takeover of HK for the death of HK cinema, but I don't get why that killed it basically everywhere else too. Bangkok Knockout had a godawful plot but the fact that that cast of amazing stunt performers never went on to do anything is as baffling as it is indicative of the modern action movie scene.
>Yes Madam's an absolute treat. Very funny movie.
Yep, but that ending
2 years ago
Anonymous
I'm not joking when I say it's one of my favorite endings to an action film. It's such a fricking downer out of nowhere, it makes me laugh every time.
2 years ago
Anonymous
what about it?
2 years ago
Anonymous
>movie is 95% slapstick comedy with 3 doofuses running around making fools of themselves >at the end one doofus gets killed and the bad guy boasts that he's so rich he'll never serve a day in jail for it >grief stricken one doofus kills the bad guy in front of police while crying about how unjust the world is >credits roll
2 years ago
Anonymous
you forgot to mention that before killing the rich guy he questions whether god can really exist if the world is so cruel
2 years ago
Anonymous
In my head the writer had some altercation with some rich guy and added that scene in last second
2 years ago
Anonymous
Rothrock said they didn’t have a script but just wrote the pages the day of the shoot.
Which makes sense because that ending is so stupid.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>same thing happened with Chinatown
I guess when you don't have a script the inclination is to have a weird downer ending with the mob boss winning in the eyes of the law. I wonder what the original ending was supposed to be?
>instead of training new martial arts stars we'll just keep dragging out Jet Li, Jackie Chan and Michelle Yeoh until they die on set
not too pleased with this timeline
Well, get me a martial artist who is good at choreography, acceptable at acting and also charismatic. It's pretty hard to have all of those.
Pic related, Tony Jaa was good at rhythim and martial arts, but had the acting and charisma of a brick. Michell Yeoh, Jackie Chan, Samo... are really rare finds
It was already mentioned in this thread but the school that saw the likes of Jackie Chan, Sammo, Yuen Bao etc was closed down - maybe that kind of training and oversight was needed but y todays standards it's just too harsh. I would argue there was a cultural and zeitgeist element to how we got so much great Hong Kong action choreography. Either way we'll never get that sort of thing today and martial arts films in general have become more soulless and less inspirational than they were back there,
Check this doc out, the name is Kung Fu Stuntmen (2020). A large part of the doc is about how shitty the HK stuntmen are treated: no pension, no insurance and they are basically pressured to do these stunts by the "big brothers". So, in the end, they've got nothing in their old age.
In one scene, they talked about how they had to jump off the 6th or 7th floor with the timed explosion behind them, and all they had to break their falls were 2 or 3 mattresses in the ground, no nets or anything, just some flimsy mattresses.
There's also a part about how the old guards of HK stuntmen are going to continue the tradition with the new blood, but these new kids aren't paid a dime and can't even do kungfu for shit. Just pathetic. But apparently there're loads of stunt schools in Mainland China so the art will probably live on.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>But apparently there're loads of stunt schools in Mainland China so the art will probably live on.
Would it really work with the fakeass kungfu that the CCP is protecting like pandas?
?t=184
I mean part of stuntwork is acting and choreography isn't exactly real fighting, but if you don't know the basics like breaking a fall, take a punch, etc. it's going to be really painful.
There were a tonne of far better actresses around. She sucked up to Hollywood and all we seem to get these days is her wrinkly old face in anything remotely kung fu from the United States. Go frick yourself and get better taste.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>There were a tonne of far better actresses around
The first shot with the crotch punch is 10/10. Americans think they can just use a wide shot and suddenly its a great fight scene. No you need creativity like sammo.
>Americans think they can just use a wide shot and suddenly its a great fight scene.
Why blame the Americans? They're just aping Thai shit(The Raid). As a reaction to shaky cam and rapid editing, we now have flat direction and uninspired editing.
None of those stunts from Sammo are that impressive. His kicks don't even go up that high. Meanwhile, Jackie Chan is fricking flipping around and doing decent stunt work. That clip is just embarrassing for Sammo really.
I watched it the other day with friends, and it doesn't really get better. You definitely settle into the groove of what kind of film it is after a while, but the tonal whiplash from scene to scene is just too much. I can't take a film seriously where the first major death is a guy with a stutter not being able to count to twenty and pull his parachute cord.
Life isn't a videogame being fat doesn't debuff yo on going slower, that's some made up bullshit
You do tire faster, but that's because you move more mass at the same speed
I watched all of this during the shutdowns. By the end there was an organization or something that gave the papers out, it could have been interesting, but this show was so slow.
Imagine the kino that could've been produced if Bruce Lee lived long enough to collaborate with Jackie Chan and Samo Hung. This world would never have been ready for it, bros. 🙁
Fun fact: Producers were worried about Mike Tyson severely injuring Donnie Yen in a mock fight, but Donnie ended up breaking Mike's finger by accident when he blocked a solid punch from Mike with his elbow.
There's actually a really good episode of Stuntmen React on Corridor where Scott Adkins (The US bad guy) talks about filming the fight scene with Donnie and Donnie stiffs him IIRC. Let me gran the video for you
I know this gets said a lot in that movie, but that kick where Benny kicks out the candles is fricking such great cinematography. Everytime I make some sort of "ooooh" or "ahhhh" noise at that bit.
Man I remember me and my friend choreographed this same fight scene and filmed it. But in the midst of fighting, we ended up going beyond the choreography and started improvising. Ended up getting punched in the face. Shit was fun.
I know this gets said a lot in that movie, but that kick where Benny kicks out the candles is fricking such great cinematography. Everytime I make some sort of "ooooh" or "ahhhh" noise at that bit.
for me it's right at the start when benny takes off his jacket and does a spinning back kick at the same time.
>those swings
It's pretty obvious at some point Jackie told him to go full throttle. You can see in some earlier shots where he was pulling punches for fear of nailing Jackie and suddenly switching to 70% power shots that would've wrecked Jackie if he messed up the choreography
supposedly they kept trying to one-up eachother, to the point that they basically just started fighting for real with the only limit being benny would avoid jackie's face since he was the star, but jackie was slugging him over and over which is why his face is so puffy by the end.
Which is why it always irritated me that the final blow in Dragons Forever, the money shot that they replay in slow motion, is clearly not Jackie but a stunt double. Great film but it's really jarring, the guy doesn't even look like him.
Does it get better? I tapped out at episode 5, it's pure hollywood without any of his hong kong charm
it's basically >95% basic 90s Police procedural >5% sammo doing sick ass stunts
>jackie once mentioning how their movies position the cameras on solid wide view locations and film steady footage as long as possible with little to no fake motion effects
It's honestly insulting comparing the sheer proficiency in the HK movie directing scene compared to modern movies which are more shaky cam shit than blair witch or whatever.
Only when they ahd money. A shit ton of movies were film in nearly a week. Look at Snake in the Eagle Shadow, they had like two days to do all the fight scenes.
What disgusts me the most is when a western action film takes on an HK expert as staff and then based on the end result, clearly ignores all of their feedback and opinions.
>Watched The Myth with some friends while browsing random old Jackie Chan movies. >Movie has some corny dub, but it's alright (Jackie Chan still dubbed himself) >Ending fight has the villain slowly get sucked into an ethereal worm hole or something. >Scream is a hilarious, pitiful high pitched squeal that has us all laughing our asses off partially because of alcohol.
Every fricking time I try to find that scene again, the dub is different any he instead lets out a manly death cry, and it's driving me mad. I feel like I got Berenstein'd, yet we ALL remember it.
You've most definitely seen most of these, but they haven't been mentioned and I can vouch that they're all at least mostly good. >Dragons Forever >Riki-Oh: The Story of Ricky >Royal Warriors >Outlaw Brothers
God of Cookery, All for the Winner, Fight Back to School, From Beijing with Love, Hail the Judge, Flirting Scholar, Out of the Dark, Forbidden City Cop, Legend of the Dragon
Has anyone else seen Fighting Madam/Angel/Iron Angels? I watched it the other day with a friend, that shit was hands down the worst HK action film I've ever seen. One or two good bits but every character is annoying and the action is largely just OK. I can't understand how it got a sequel.
>watch Ip Man >even though it's the usual chink propaganda it's still kino >fight scenes are grounded and believable >start watching Ip Man 2 >which stars this fat frick >he also did the fight choreography >get to a scene where fat frick and Donnie Ip Man have a brief fight >they're literally flipping bar stools over and standing on top of the legs to fight >turn the movie off and never watch another Ip Man movie ever again
And I love classic wuxia and kung fu movies where characters would do similar wonky shit, but to have that in Ip Man 2 after how great Ip Man 1 was with the fights being extremely grounded was too much. It was so gay.
They milked that franchise for every yuan it was worth. >Ip Man 1: I must participate in a brutal no-holds-barred death match for the future of my country because the comically villainous Japanese general is Goku incarnate and he will personally reenact Nanking on my wife and son if I refuse >Ip Man 2: huwyte man called me a chink
I don't think I've ever seen an action movie where they try to sell you on the ticket by promising you LOWER stakes in the sequel.
Is that the series where Mike Tyson were in it in one of the films? i remember the first film to be relatively grounded and they made sequels of it like crazy.
Yeah, I agree. I tried to watch Dragon Inn the other day after seeing a cool looking webm of it... holy shit, it's got the plot of a shitty action film with none of the action to make up for it. Hero does seem cool though, I've wanted to watch it for a while just for the visual gimmick.
Yeah, I agree. I tried to watch Dragon Inn the other day after seeing a cool looking webm of it... holy shit, it's got the plot of a shitty action film with none of the action to make up for it. Hero does seem cool though, I've wanted to watch it for a while just for the visual gimmick.
Imagine not watching the wuxia movies of Chang Cheh. Violent and action-packed as frick, testosterone-fuled as frick, hardly any women so no gay romance subplots dragging everything down.
My first Chang Cheh film was Five Element Ninjas which I randomly watched as a child. It blew my intestines right out of my butthole. Insanely violent and just a pure comic book bonkers movie.
He directed a ton of movies for Shaw Bros and a lot of them are bangers. Masked Avengers, Crippled Avengers, and New One-Armed Swordsman are some of my personal favorites from him.
>My first Chang Cheh film was Five Element Ninjas
That's a damned fun one.
2 years ago
Anonymous
It left an impression on me. I remember vividly watching it as a kid. >at grandma's house >she's taking a nap on the couch >flipping through channels on the TV >land on the INTESTINES scene >"WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT" >watch the rest of the movie without blinking once >when it finishes I go to the kitchen and use my granny's 500 year old frying pan lid as a bladed weapon; pretending I'm one of the ninjas in the movie
2 years ago
Anonymous
alright you just convinced me to rewatch this tonight.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Based
https://solarmovie.pe/movie/watch-five-element-ninjas-free-105
2 years ago
Anonymous
That's ok I have it saved with the rest of my movies, thanks though
>My first Chang Cheh film was Five Element Ninjas
That's a damned fun one.
It left an impression on me. I remember vividly watching it as a kid. >at grandma's house >she's taking a nap on the couch >flipping through channels on the TV >land on the INTESTINES scene >"WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT" >watch the rest of the movie without blinking once >when it finishes I go to the kitchen and use my granny's 500 year old frying pan lid as a bladed weapon; pretending I'm one of the ninjas in the movie
Based
https://solarmovie.pe/movie/watch-five-element-ninjas-free-105
I watched this movie and it ruined shaw bros for me because I could never find another one as nuts as this.
http://www.coolasscinema.com/2009/07/chang-chehs-13-best-action-films.html
http://www.coolasscinema.com/2010/09/chang-chehs-best-action-films-part-2.html
Here you go, fren.
i'm just talking about the style of movies
that movie was pretty based where he kills a bunch of soldiers and stands on a pile of corpses
also what's that movie with chinese soldiers, roman soldiers etc wheres he fights that hooked nose israelite actor
Dragon Blade. People shit on Dragon Blade, but John Cusack learned kickboxing from Benny the Jet Urquidez. Adrien Brody was laughably cartoonish, but I think that was his direction honestly.
I think I liked it better than The Myth or Little Big Soldier. Chinese Zodiac is kind of worse.
New Police Story is the best film he's made since being "old" other than The Foreigner.
I caught The Foreigner on tv a year or so ago while hanging with a friend who also likes HK action films, so we gave it a shot. Not at all what the action film we were expecting, but it was a genuinely good political thriller. Both Jackie and Brosnan can do no wrong.
All kung fu movie fans should be familiar with Project A. If you haven't seen it, go watch it right now. It's so good. Even normies will enjoy it because it's very funny. My parents were in stitches the entire time and they usually don't care for these types of movies.
About time we had a kung fu movie thread, I'll post more of my favorites.
Sammo was known for not pulling his punches and lighting people up with full power hits, when he came to America Jackie had to reign him in because he was smashing stuntmen in the face lmao
Feels like that whole new martial arts crew (Iko, Jaa, Phillip Ng) that seemed like they were going to be the next generation of kino just fizzled out into nothing after only 5 years.
Agreed. I remember when Triple Threat was first announced, starring Uwais, Jaa, Tiger Chen, and Scott Adkins. Such a great cast but terrible movie, even the fight scenes were bad.
Feels like that whole new martial arts crew (Iko, Jaa, Phillip Ng) that seemed like they were going to be the next generation of kino just fizzled out into nothing after only 5 years.
The Night Comes for Us was good
It's no Raid but still a solid action flick
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt6116856/?ref_=tt_mv_close
I really don't get China's hard on for destroying semingly ancient buildings. They even build fake old buildings right after to attarct tourists, it's so fricking moronic.
Their goal is to destroy everything related to pre-revolution china, but have nothing to replace it with. So modern Chinese culture is just consuming, far more than America's.
Chinese culture is based on the idea that If a copy is good as the original it worth the same as the original. So they have no problem with copying shit or rebuidling artefacts from scratch. It's not that moronic if you think about it.
frick, i been wanting to go to HK for so long, but i think the HK i want to see only exists in those old movies, new china HK i dont even know if its worth it to go
watched sammo beat up chinese zombies last halloween in encounter of the spooky kind and it was one of the best i've seen last halloween. very awesome end battle
He's been explained before anon
It's a lot of strength
He was in peakin china opera or something and a few years later broke his leg then became a fat bastard but still had the muscle memory
he's still a fat bastard because he's a fat hungry frick but has the strength to move around
Also most of his stunts take 2-3 times as long as most other actors it's one of the reasons he's not in that many stuff compared to shit like chan or lee who got their shit pushed out over here
It's not that Biao is underrated, I think it just speaks volumes about how GOOD Jackie and Sammo are.
If you speak to someone who's into Kung Fu movies, they likely rate Biao as highly as his opera house brothers, but Jackie and Sammo had more breakout roles, whereas Biao didn't
I also guess it's a niche thing. Where they're all good fighters, Jackie was known for his death defying stunt work, whereas Sammo was known for being a big guy, as we've discussed in this thread.
Biao, in my opinion, just didn't have that "gimmick" to separate him from his brothers
Anyone seen scorpion king? Legit hardest movie to track down. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTK_b-IhIpk I can't find a good torrent. Shame since its one of best hong movie ever made, great stunts.
he doesn't live off of high fructose corn syrup, dye, and yoga mat ingredients. he's not american
Rent fricking free.
>oh no the rest of the world is making fun of how disgusting we are again!
cope, you fat troony demons
I'm glad we live rent free in your head
>yoga mat ingredients
kek
Excercise and stretching. What's that series of movies with Sam? I remember they used to have them on Prime Video. Jackie made an appearance in a few as a small role.
Wheels on Meals? Lucky Stars? Dragons Forever?
The fights with Benny the Jet in Wheels and Dragons are too of my favourite fights in kung fu history
Winners and sinners?
lucky stars
Martial Law
For me, it's the crossover with Walker
>Say your prayers
>I arready have!
I watched Project A for the first time a couple weeks ago and it was kino. I also watched My Lucky Stars and it was not.
I think it was Jackie Chan who said he looked like a Panda but moved like a monkey. Whoever it was, it's very true. Sammo was responsible for so much of what made Hong Kong action movies great, he directed and choreographed way more than he was on screen, which was already a lot.
Yeah, the Lucky Stars movies are nowhere near as good as they're hyped up to be (unlike Project A). That said, the scene where the one guy thinks he's invisible is pretty funny.
>not liking Lucky stars
My Lucky Stars is a good Saturday afternoon watch while you fold clothes movie. It doesn't deserve 100% of your attention
Some big guys are light on their feet. He went to a Peking Opera School so that's where he learned footwork.
>Some big guys are light on their feet
Tell me about big guys. Why are they light on their feet?
There's this fat kid I knew growing up who would style on people in sports. But he liked watching anime instead.
He was Chinese. Reminded me of Sammo.
Millionaire's Express is great
I hate how fricking impossible it is to find the uncut version of most HK action flicks. It's one thing for streaming sites to not have them, but most torrent sites don't have them either. I've been looking for months and I can't find an uncut Armor of God anywhere.
What's cut in the Western release?
As always, a few comedy bits and one or two musical numbers. A minor action sequence here or there.
He trained at the same school as jackie chan and bao yen. That school literally tortured children to get them to be able to do such incredible feats of martial arts skill.
The school no longer exists coz it's completely illegal. We will never see shit on the same level as their movies ever again.
What is bluray?
I mean sure it’s nice that they don’t torture kids anymore but it sad that we will never get 80s/90s level Hong Kong action flicks again.
Probably too expensive to insure a movie like those too
Thailand and Indonesia were on a good track with people like Tony Jaa and The Raid movies. Seemed to have lost the momentum though.
I was hoping for more from Jeeja Yanin (chocolate) but we got covid shut down and she became a mom.
now no more kung fu kino
Tony Jaa is pretty good but he can't act anon
Ong Baak trilogy is kino, and I'm always upset that no one bring it up here. Glad there are plenty of Raid fans on the site though.
>were on a good track with people like Tony Jaa
They really weren't. Compare his stuff too 80-90s Hong Kong and there is no comparison to how much more beautiful and smooth the fight choreography and stunts were coming out from Hong Kong.
>That school literally tortured children to get them to be able to do such incredible feats of martial arts skill
Any chance North Korea is secretly making kino?
Try avistaz. Not sure if it's still on open reg though. Or try searching chink sites using the movie's original chink names + torrent.
There are trackers specifically for asian movies and tv shows in their original format. That's where you need to be.
Yuen Biao does a few of the flips
how is this possible?
the kick out of the window has to be one of my favorite stunts of all time, fricking brutal
He probably got paid $20 for that.
How did that not kill someone? His back landed on the stone wall.
Wait till you see this fall Jackie survived on Project A
Padded. It’s why guys wear suits and other clothes that cover their whole body, so they can hide the pads from the camera. The guys body seems too big for his face, he’s definitely padded up. The neck definitely took a beating though
Training and skill, rare there days because of homosexuals like
Source on film?
Watched the magnificent butcher last night, was kino.
meals on wheels.
Winners and Sinners. That and My Lucky Stars are my favorite HK movies and I don't know why. Other movies have better kung fu/action and the humor is juvenile but I love them.
>the one female character in the movie
>the joke is how all the guys try to rape her
Sure it’s funny the first time but they kind of repeat the joke in the Lucky Stars trilogy
Winners and Sinners
It's OK
I am missing good stunts so fricking much bros.
Although shitty writers are just as much to blame for that as anybody, not like good stuntmen are all gone.
There's not nearly enough, but Everything Everywhere All At Once had some pretty good fight scenes, and seeing Michelle Yeoh back in action was really nice. I wish there had been (a lot) more in the film, since the few we got were genuinely pretty good. Not as good as 80s HK, but leagues better than everything else today.
HAHAHAA FRICKING LOONEY TUNES
Yes Madam's an absolute treat. Very funny movie.
I know, it's rough. I love them, but they're all clearly aging with their best stunt days behind them. I've read interviews with Sammo where he not so subtly blames the CCP takeover of HK for the death of HK cinema, but I don't get why that killed it basically everywhere else too. Bangkok Knockout had a godawful plot but the fact that that cast of amazing stunt performers never went on to do anything is as baffling as it is indicative of the modern action movie scene.
>Yes Madam's an absolute treat. Very funny movie.
Yep, but that ending
I'm not joking when I say it's one of my favorite endings to an action film. It's such a fricking downer out of nowhere, it makes me laugh every time.
what about it?
>movie is 95% slapstick comedy with 3 doofuses running around making fools of themselves
>at the end one doofus gets killed and the bad guy boasts that he's so rich he'll never serve a day in jail for it
>grief stricken one doofus kills the bad guy in front of police while crying about how unjust the world is
>credits roll
you forgot to mention that before killing the rich guy he questions whether god can really exist if the world is so cruel
In my head the writer had some altercation with some rich guy and added that scene in last second
Rothrock said they didn’t have a script but just wrote the pages the day of the shoot.
Which makes sense because that ending is so stupid.
>same thing happened with Chinatown
I guess when you don't have a script the inclination is to have a weird downer ending with the mob boss winning in the eyes of the law. I wonder what the original ending was supposed to be?
>instead of training new martial arts stars we'll just keep dragging out Jet Li, Jackie Chan and Michelle Yeoh until they die on set
not too pleased with this timeline
Sounds like the WWE.
Yeah they would rather starve with vince as a boss
Well, get me a martial artist who is good at choreography, acceptable at acting and also charismatic. It's pretty hard to have all of those.
Pic related, Tony Jaa was good at rhythim and martial arts, but had the acting and charisma of a brick. Michell Yeoh, Jackie Chan, Samo... are really rare finds
>instead of training new martial arts stars
It was already mentioned in this thread but the school that saw the likes of Jackie Chan, Sammo, Yuen Bao etc was closed down - maybe that kind of training and oversight was needed but y todays standards it's just too harsh. I would argue there was a cultural and zeitgeist element to how we got so much great Hong Kong action choreography. Either way we'll never get that sort of thing today and martial arts films in general have become more soulless and less inspirational than they were back there,
Check this doc out, the name is Kung Fu Stuntmen (2020). A large part of the doc is about how shitty the HK stuntmen are treated: no pension, no insurance and they are basically pressured to do these stunts by the "big brothers". So, in the end, they've got nothing in their old age.
In one scene, they talked about how they had to jump off the 6th or 7th floor with the timed explosion behind them, and all they had to break their falls were 2 or 3 mattresses in the ground, no nets or anything, just some flimsy mattresses.
There's also a part about how the old guards of HK stuntmen are going to continue the tradition with the new blood, but these new kids aren't paid a dime and can't even do kungfu for shit. Just pathetic. But apparently there're loads of stunt schools in Mainland China so the art will probably live on.
>But apparently there're loads of stunt schools in Mainland China so the art will probably live on.
Would it really work with the fakeass kungfu that the CCP is protecting like pandas?
?t=184
I mean part of stuntwork is acting and choreography isn't exactly real fighting, but if you don't know the basics like breaking a fall, take a punch, etc. it's going to be really painful.
>tfw that mma fighter vs modern kung fu
Hated this movie the 3 stooges ruined Michelle Yeoh and cynthia kino.
Atrocious take
The movie is awful hong kong comedy michelle and cynthia are wasted. The end fight is the only good fight and its because the stooges don't ruin it.
>the puppet with the dynamite
KINO
>Michelle Yeoh
God I hate this c**t.
>I hate talent
ok incel
There were a tonne of far better actresses around. She sucked up to Hollywood and all we seem to get these days is her wrinkly old face in anything remotely kung fu from the United States. Go frick yourself and get better taste.
>There were a tonne of far better actresses around
Name 3
>how is this possible
Drugs I guess.
Hong Kong had so much SOVL, too bad the chinks took them over
you can be fat and trained. you'll have to carry some dead weight but he's not that fat.
The first shot with the crotch punch is 10/10. Americans think they can just use a wide shot and suddenly its a great fight scene. No you need creativity like sammo.
Black person will you stop seething about Americans already? It's like an illness.
have a nice day you fat mutt, your entire country should be nuked you ugly moronic frickhead.
>Americans think they can just use a wide shot and suddenly its a great fight scene.
Why blame the Americans? They're just aping Thai shit(The Raid). As a reaction to shaky cam and rapid editing, we now have flat direction and uninspired editing.
first of all it's not Thai second of all they were doing it long before
You mean action/fighting sequences done right?
None of those stunts from Sammo are that impressive. His kicks don't even go up that high. Meanwhile, Jackie Chan is fricking flipping around and doing decent stunt work. That clip is just embarrassing for Sammo really.
I watched it the other day with friends, and it doesn't really get better. You definitely settle into the groove of what kind of film it is after a while, but the tonal whiplash from scene to scene is just too much. I can't take a film seriously where the first major death is a guy with a stutter not being able to count to twenty and pull his parachute cord.
do it yourself anon and film it please
now compare this to seagul who is a true fat frick
Wow!
dude literally died but it was HK in the 80s so it was brushed under the rug for the sake of profit
wait really? wtf jackie
what fricking movie?
Enjoy kino for free on youtube
finally! took you long enough.
Low center of gravity
24 seconds and only 12 cuts, if this was Hollywood you'd have 24 cuts in 12 seconds
That guy who got kicked out the window is dead. That's a real method actor right there.
It's unfortunate that this movie sort of sucks outside this scene and one other fight. Wheels on Meals is far superior
I don't even care that he shill the CCP now. We don't deserve him.
He was hung
you can be heavy and still fit. lots of training and his stature was a selling point so he never got thin
Life isn't a videogame being fat doesn't debuff yo on going slower, that's some made up bullshit
You do tire faster, but that's because you move more mass at the same speed
Time to step away from vidya, moron.
he's not that fat. that's why.
if it works, it works
>carrying water for chinks
you're pathetic.
Him and Jackie Chan were trained from the time they were children. They literally did nothing else but train.
>thread about legendary asian stuntmen and actors
>shit it up with chinese liveleak vids
why is Reddit like this?
those are real life stunts you gayet
nothing wrong with eating insects. preferable to starving. how else are you going to feed a billion chinks? man cannot live off rice alone.
>man cannot live off rice alone
Japanese peasants would beg to differ.
AKSHUALLY Jap peasants mostly ate barley, maybe half a dozen meals of rice throughout the year on festival days.
what about pussy, did they eat much of that?
Have you seen Dream of the Fisherman's Wife?
A big man with pace is fricking kino. "Big man" nowadays seems to just mean a fat frick without hurting someone's feelings
Is there a list of essential 80s HK films?
>be Asian
>be called Hung
mmmmm
I wish this was better, I couldn't finish it
>crossover episode from Walker Texas Ranger
kek
>crossover episode from Early Edition
whut
CBS used to LOVE crossing over their popular dramas.
>this was a leading man in the 90's
thank god we know better now
I watched all of this during the shutdowns. By the end there was an organization or something that gave the papers out, it could have been interesting, but this show was so slow.
this was my favorite show as a kid I don't know why
But... but Marvel created crossovers!
Wasnt bruce lees daughter in this
Sammo Hung is essentially a strongfat.
But has anyone else seen Painted faces? Which is a biography he was in where he played his own teacher.
>Painted faces
>The story of Beijing Opera School, its teacher Master Yu and his students.
Sounds based
I managed to find it on here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4MgQXENp-XI&t=4245s
Anybody remember this? He moved pretty well for being obese. Also Kelly Hu was one of my favs.
I'm gonna assume he learned martial arts while he was thinner and just kept practicing as he got big.
Sammo... had a hard life
hes a big guy
Sam O’Hung is the greatest Irish action star of all time
Golden Harvest Box Set….WHEN?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Golden_Harvest_productions
>490 movies
how much would it cost?
if the Shaw Bros can do it than Golden Harvest can do it too
>anyone that shittalks americans is a chink
What's this weird-ass cope I keep seeing
Imagine the kino that could've been produced if Bruce Lee lived long enough to collaborate with Jackie Chan and Samo Hung. This world would never have been ready for it, bros. 🙁
Uhmmm...He did
We all know what he means - as in when Jackie and Sammo had matured as both directors, actors, and choreographers i.e. the decade after Bruce died.
Post the absolute kinoest fights in kung-fu movies
Tyson vs Donnie in Ip Man was frickin kino
Fun fact: Producers were worried about Mike Tyson severely injuring Donnie Yen in a mock fight, but Donnie ended up breaking Mike's finger by accident when he blocked a solid punch from Mike with his elbow.
There's actually a really good episode of Stuntmen React on Corridor where Scott Adkins (The US bad guy) talks about filming the fight scene with Donnie and Donnie stiffs him IIRC. Let me gran the video for you
Pretty cool Anon, thanks.
I know this gets said a lot in that movie, but that kick where Benny kicks out the candles is fricking such great cinematography. Everytime I make some sort of "ooooh" or "ahhhh" noise at that bit.
That was great
Man I remember me and my friend choreographed this same fight scene and filmed it. But in the midst of fighting, we ended up going beyond the choreography and started improvising. Ended up getting punched in the face. Shit was fun.
The cage fight scene in Bangkok Knockout might be my favorite fight in any movie, and that's saying something.
?t=90
Playground fight scene from Police Story 2
spolier-y, but the final fight from Drunken Master 2
The restaurant fight from Miracles
for me it's right at the start when benny takes off his jacket and does a spinning back kick at the same time.
>those swings
It's pretty obvious at some point Jackie told him to go full throttle. You can see in some earlier shots where he was pulling punches for fear of nailing Jackie and suddenly switching to 70% power shots that would've wrecked Jackie if he messed up the choreography
>"If we met in a dark alley, he would kick my ass."
-Jackie Chan on Benny Urquidez
supposedly they kept trying to one-up eachother, to the point that they basically just started fighting for real with the only limit being benny would avoid jackie's face since he was the star, but jackie was slugging him over and over which is why his face is so puffy by the end.
In both Wheels on Meals and Dragons Forever they got into an ego battle and were basically fighting for real within the confines of the choreography.
Which is why it always irritated me that the final blow in Dragons Forever, the money shot that they replay in slow motion, is clearly not Jackie but a stunt double. Great film but it's really jarring, the guy doesn't even look like him.
Too bad yackie is now a ccp apologist
based sammo appreciator there will never be kino like martial law again
Does it get better? I tapped out at episode 5, it's pure hollywood without any of his hong kong charm
it's basically
>95% basic 90s Police procedural
>5% sammo doing sick ass stunts
>jackie once mentioning how their movies position the cameras on solid wide view locations and film steady footage as long as possible with little to no fake motion effects
It's honestly insulting comparing the sheer proficiency in the HK movie directing scene compared to modern movies which are more shaky cam shit than blair witch or whatever.
they would spend days to film a five minute scene.
Its probably too expensive to do that in hollywood (even if people had the talent)
Only when they ahd money. A shit ton of movies were film in nearly a week. Look at Snake in the Eagle Shadow, they had like two days to do all the fight scenes.
What disgusts me the most is when a western action film takes on an HK expert as staff and then based on the end result, clearly ignores all of their feedback and opinions.
>Watched The Myth with some friends while browsing random old Jackie Chan movies.
>Movie has some corny dub, but it's alright (Jackie Chan still dubbed himself)
>Ending fight has the villain slowly get sucked into an ethereal worm hole or something.
>Scream is a hilarious, pitiful high pitched squeal that has us all laughing our asses off partially because of alcohol.
Every fricking time I try to find that scene again, the dub is different any he instead lets out a manly death cry, and it's driving me mad. I feel like I got Berenstein'd, yet we ALL remember it.
>Saw all movies mentioned in this thread already
Please lads, I need more HK kino
You've most definitely seen most of these, but they haven't been mentioned and I can vouch that they're all at least mostly good.
>Dragons Forever
>Riki-Oh: The Story of Ricky
>Royal Warriors
>Outlaw Brothers
I saw Ricky-Oh about 20 years ago in college, and that movie left its mark. It's one of the coolest things I have ever seen.
Ricki-Oh is amazing.
BASED Ricky-Oh enjoyer
I'LL SEND YOUR KARMA TO HELL. PASS ON TO THE NEXT LIFE!
Have you watched Stephen Chow's movies?
Not just Kung Fu Hustle or Shaolin Soccer
God of Cookery, All for the Winner, Fight Back to School, From Beijing with Love, Hail the Judge, Flirting Scholar, Out of the Dark, Forbidden City Cop, Legend of the Dragon
They are all very good.
Not the anon but I throw my support behind from Beijing with Love. Also King of Beggars.
Why am I looking at a Samo thread without Eastern Condors?
I couldn't finish it
Not only is it too series, having Samo playing a Rambo type character straight is too weird
The Paper Tigers 2021
>The Paper Tigers
Oh for fricks sake
Has anyone else seen Fighting Madam/Angel/Iron Angels? I watched it the other day with a friend, that shit was hands down the worst HK action film I've ever seen. One or two good bits but every character is annoying and the action is largely just OK. I can't understand how it got a sequel.
>watch Ip Man
>even though it's the usual chink propaganda it's still kino
>fight scenes are grounded and believable
>start watching Ip Man 2
>which stars this fat frick
>he also did the fight choreography
>get to a scene where fat frick and Donnie Ip Man have a brief fight
>they're literally flipping bar stools over and standing on top of the legs to fight
>turn the movie off and never watch another Ip Man movie ever again
And I love classic wuxia and kung fu movies where characters would do similar wonky shit, but to have that in Ip Man 2 after how great Ip Man 1 was with the fights being extremely grounded was too much. It was so gay.
lol i remember that one
They milked that franchise for every yuan it was worth.
>Ip Man 1: I must participate in a brutal no-holds-barred death match for the future of my country because the comically villainous Japanese general is Goku incarnate and he will personally reenact Nanking on my wife and son if I refuse
>Ip Man 2: huwyte man called me a chink
I don't think I've ever seen an action movie where they try to sell you on the ticket by promising you LOWER stakes in the sequel.
I heard there's a new one coming out this year
It's done. Donnie's character is already dead after 4 tho
Is that the series where Mike Tyson were in it in one of the films? i remember the first film to be relatively grounded and they made sequels of it like crazy.
Yep. The first one is great. After that the series only has good fights but the stories become crap
Ip Man 1 was absolutely fricking iconic. I turned Chinese during that movie. 2 and 3 were pretty funny but mediocre.
That's the best scene in the 4 movie saga.
Is Shaolin Soccer considered Kungfu movie? I like that movie a lot.
>How did a man Sammo's size move so fricking well?
He didn't skip leg day. I'm a fat bastard and I can jump around pretty well because I can max out the leg press.
And here I am can barely make it out of my fricking bed with my pathetic 66kilos of weight.
fricking laziness man. grab me a burger, will ya? please
>hongkong goofy stunt movies
never enjoyed those that much
personally i'm more of a mainland aesthetikino enjoyer
I find wuxia movies kind of boring.
Yeah, I agree. I tried to watch Dragon Inn the other day after seeing a cool looking webm of it... holy shit, it's got the plot of a shitty action film with none of the action to make up for it. Hero does seem cool though, I've wanted to watch it for a while just for the visual gimmick.
The old 6 hour long wuxia movies are an acquired taste, definitely.
They're good, that homosexual has shit taste, his mind is adhd riddle by modern fast paced quick cut bullshit. Dragon inn is like 90mins anyway.
old one or the new one
>tfw they all laugh at the emperor enunch for not getting to enjoy sex or something
old one
Dragon inn and other King hu movies are kino you pleb. A touch of Zen is even more Kino.
Imagine not watching the wuxia movies of Chang Cheh. Violent and action-packed as frick, testosterone-fuled as frick, hardly any women so no gay romance subplots dragging everything down.
>Chang Cheh
What do you recommend to watch first from him?
My first Chang Cheh film was Five Element Ninjas which I randomly watched as a child. It blew my intestines right out of my butthole. Insanely violent and just a pure comic book bonkers movie.
Downloading
He directed a ton of movies for Shaw Bros and a lot of them are bangers. Masked Avengers, Crippled Avengers, and New One-Armed Swordsman are some of my personal favorites from him.
>My first Chang Cheh film was Five Element Ninjas
That's a damned fun one.
It left an impression on me. I remember vividly watching it as a kid.
>at grandma's house
>she's taking a nap on the couch
>flipping through channels on the TV
>land on the INTESTINES scene
>"WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT"
>watch the rest of the movie without blinking once
>when it finishes I go to the kitchen and use my granny's 500 year old frying pan lid as a bladed weapon; pretending I'm one of the ninjas in the movie
alright you just convinced me to rewatch this tonight.
Based
https://solarmovie.pe/movie/watch-five-element-ninjas-free-105
That's ok I have it saved with the rest of my movies, thanks though
I watched this movie and it ruined shaw bros for me because I could never find another one as nuts as this.
http://www.coolasscinema.com/2009/07/chang-chehs-13-best-action-films.html
http://www.coolasscinema.com/2010/09/chang-chehs-best-action-films-part-2.html
Here you go, fren.
>Chang Cheh
>no gay romance subplots
you haven't seen five venoms?
you and me are enemies now. Jackie Chan is a treasure.
i'm just talking about the style of movies
that movie was pretty based where he kills a bunch of soldiers and stands on a pile of corpses
also what's that movie with chinese soldiers, roman soldiers etc wheres he fights that hooked nose israelite actor
Dragon Blade. People shit on Dragon Blade, but John Cusack learned kickboxing from Benny the Jet Urquidez. Adrien Brody was laughably cartoonish, but I think that was his direction honestly.
I think I liked it better than The Myth or Little Big Soldier. Chinese Zodiac is kind of worse.
New Police Story is the best film he's made since being "old" other than The Foreigner.
I caught The Foreigner on tv a year or so ago while hanging with a friend who also likes HK action films, so we gave it a shot. Not at all what the action film we were expecting, but it was a genuinely good political thriller. Both Jackie and Brosnan can do no wrong.
What's that movie about some guy fighitng for an elephant? I remember people being really excited about that one
RRR? I haven't seen it yet, but I want to. Anytime a non-american action pic gets big you know you're in for something good.
No, I think it was Thai and probably 10 years old now
Looks like The Protector
Tom Yung Goong AKA The Protector I think. Really only worth watching for the 10 minute long single-take fight
Any fans of Hero? It has some great cinematography
>that film where Sammo plays the moronic younger brother of Jackie Chan
Does anyone remember the name?
Lain Man
>tfw too weeb to enjoy Ip Man
All kung fu movie fans should be familiar with Project A. If you haven't seen it, go watch it right now. It's so good. Even normies will enjoy it because it's very funny. My parents were in stitches the entire time and they usually don't care for these types of movies.
About time we had a kung fu movie thread, I'll post more of my favorites.
>Competition would rip off our movie based on just the name and release it before you, so they had to call it Project A
This one will always be in my top ten at least. It's just very fun and I think the fight scenes are pretty cool too.
Based thread
Sometimes Cinemaphile isn't that bad
And just some more that I like
What a great thread
Does anybody have more samo webms
Not
>Does anybody have sa'mo webms
One job anon
If you're looking for other weird but enjoyable Sammo Hung films
Encounters of the Spooky Kind - which I remember has an actual chicken death in the film
Warriors Two
Odd Couple
Millionaire's Express
Sammos best movie in my opinion is Eastern Condors. Also has his sexy wife in it beautiful eyes.
I must have watched this like 50 times as a kid (Drunken Master 2)
Jackie was so fricking based
Sammo was known for not pulling his punches and lighting people up with full power hits, when he came to America Jackie had to reign him in because he was smashing stuntmen in the face lmao
Just want a 1980s hong kong gf bros...
gf's mom looks exactly like this
Give her the D, bro.
Unironically looks like my mom.
>we will only get CGI capeshit "fight" scenes from now on
we will never get kino like this again will we?
He train from child
Its not comfy HK kino and is very brutal, but Headshot had some insane fight scenes with almost zero editing cuts.
it's that one where he sees the world upside down i never got around to watching it
Iko Uwaisis great but He seems to only be in shit movies since the Raid 1 and 2
Feels like that whole new martial arts crew (Iko, Jaa, Phillip Ng) that seemed like they were going to be the next generation of kino just fizzled out into nothing after only 5 years.
Agreed. I remember when Triple Threat was first announced, starring Uwais, Jaa, Tiger Chen, and Scott Adkins. Such a great cast but terrible movie, even the fight scenes were bad.
Adkins made a lot of kino 2016-2020
He was cranking out almost 2 movies a year until he hurt his back
Avengement is his best performance. He should play more scumbags
Debt Collector 1 and 2 were great and I hope we get part 3 some day
The Night Comes for Us was good
It's no Raid but still a solid action flick
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt6116856/?ref_=tt_mv_close
Legit shit movie.
Watch Revenger - Bruce Khan.
"A game of chess is like a sword fight, you must think first before you move."
Who here /kungfu + horror/?
The genre that Sammo Hung single-handedly invented.
that was just comedy, not horror
Uses horror tropes.
His physique would be considered average to chubby compared to the average westerner nowadays
homie was backflipping in Enter the Dragon
He sad. 🙁
I really don't get China's hard on for destroying semingly ancient buildings. They even build fake old buildings right after to attarct tourists, it's so fricking moronic.
CCP is made up of inbred schizos
Their goal is to destroy everything related to pre-revolution china, but have nothing to replace it with. So modern Chinese culture is just consuming, far more than America's.
Chinese culture is based on the idea that If a copy is good as the original it worth the same as the original. So they have no problem with copying shit or rebuidling artefacts from scratch. It's not that moronic if you think about it.
>It's not that moronic if you think about it.
No - it still is.
frick, i been wanting to go to HK for so long, but i think the HK i want to see only exists in those old movies, new china HK i dont even know if its worth it to go
>new china HK i dont even know if its worth it to go
Its not. Chinks pretty much destroyed it.
>permabulk with calisthenics and acrobatics focus
Is this godmode?
I’m just here to say : I’m very happy that this this martial arts thread is still up
Same anon, I went to sleep after cloudflare went down but I had more to talk about, I love these threads.
He's hung.
Because he was muscle under that fat. Yes, it's a real thing. Sumos are an extreme example. In fact, technically this is peak performance.
I don't care if this movie is normie tier now, but the machete fight scene in The Raid is still my go to
watched sammo beat up chinese zombies last halloween in encounter of the spooky kind and it was one of the best i've seen last halloween. very awesome end battle
Nice. I've been looking for the movie for 20 years after catching a few minutes of it on TV when I was 12.
Asians' short legs give them a low center of gravity.
there was a fat adian in my school and evrertone called him samo lou
He's been explained before anon
It's a lot of strength
He was in peakin china opera or something and a few years later broke his leg then became a fat bastard but still had the muscle memory
he's still a fat bastard because he's a fat hungry frick but has the strength to move around
Also most of his stunts take 2-3 times as long as most other actors it's one of the reasons he's not in that many stuff compared to shit like chan or lee who got their shit pushed out over here
Why does Yuen Biao never get any love? He's a great performer through and through, but nobody ever really talks about him
It's not that Biao is underrated, I think it just speaks volumes about how GOOD Jackie and Sammo are.
If you speak to someone who's into Kung Fu movies, they likely rate Biao as highly as his opera house brothers, but Jackie and Sammo had more breakout roles, whereas Biao didn't
I also guess it's a niche thing. Where they're all good fighters, Jackie was known for his death defying stunt work, whereas Sammo was known for being a big guy, as we've discussed in this thread.
Biao, in my opinion, just didn't have that "gimmick" to separate him from his brothers
recenthomosexuals
I'm the OP, but go off I guess
>I'm OP, I can't possibly be a homosexual
what prompted your embarassing tantrum?
Yeah, you're probably right. Imo Biao was best at playing radically different characters, but that's not as marketable of a gimmick.
>Biao was best at playing radically different characters
I think some of his choreography was the smoothest in terms of what he pulled off.
No cross over success in the west. Righting Wrongs is a 10/10 film
A better question is how did he stay chubby with all the exercise that he does?
he ate more calories than he was burning. fricking imagine.
t.autist
the frick's a tautist
Overrated movie, but man the opening and closing set pieces are something else
It's his footwork.
Speaking of martial artists, I always read that donnie yen is one of the real MAs as in he'd fricking frick you up in a real fight. Is that true?
For me, it's Dragons Forever.
Anyone seen scorpion king? Legit hardest movie to track down. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTK_b-IhIpk I can't find a good torrent. Shame since its one of best hong movie ever made, great stunts.