Zendaya was better in this than in any other movie I've seen her in (mostly Spider-Man and Euphoria I guess), but she's still terrible. She's lucky she gets cast for successful series and I hope she doesn't think those franchises are successful because of her because I can't imagine that anyone actually likes this goblin.
>Zendaya was better in this than in any other movie I've seen her in
How? She was supposed to be part of an alien tribal culture and she was the ONLY one who sounded like modern day New York b***h, Every fremen put an effort except her.
>she was the ONLY one who sounded like modern day new york b***h
I wonder if she's responsible for this, or her handlers make that part of the contract since she has a big social media presence, and she needs to be "the Zendaya" in whatever role she takes
I really do wonder why they decided to take away Paul's first wife (which he won when he killed Jamis) and make Chani and unlikable b***h for no fricking reason
Paul fell in love with her for a REASON
Would take too much time in an already fast-paced movie and she's not really an important character. Not least of all because Twitter would throw a fit if the white boi killed a Fremen and took his wife >Paul fell in love with her for a REASON
Did he? In the book it seemed to come out of nowhere. Having them fight together was a good addition although they still don't have much reason to be together
>Did he? In the book it seemed to come out of nowhere
He dreamed with her and he barely had interaction with girls of his age also in the book she is kynes daughter so they bond over their parent death. They also see a vision of their son so they are "meant" be together. In the movie i see no reason why zendaya fell for him since she hates outsiders so much
I hate what he did with Chani, but I think Zendaya didn't help. I just saw it again and it's obvious sometimes that she is supposed to look at Paul with love and kindness, but she is so bad at acting that you only see anger in her eyes, kek.
Since he didn't want to do a proper timeskip, it kinda makes sense to change Chani, but in the end it's still a bad choice.
Their love isn't strong enough, not losing their child also remove a lot of weight to the story.
what do you mean ignore completely? they ignored his wife and child? yes, that was omitted bc who the frick cares, its already a 3 hour movie
they definitely didnt ignore janis or the aftermath of his death, as you are implying
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Anonymous
Not enough time to fit Dune in our Dune movie
1 month ago
Anonymous
yeah paul turning jamis' wife into his servant was really integral to the plot of the book, and denis should only appeal to autistic morons by making a 10 hour movie of just talking.
1 month ago
Anonymous
>denis should only appeal to autistic morons by making a 10 hour movie of just talking
This but unironically
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Anonymous
Shame. Everything with the aftermath of Jamis death serves as a great intro to Fremen society.
But such would not do in modern Hollywood where everywhere must be like an american suburb.
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Can't have exposition or buildup in an action schl... "masterpiece".
1 month ago
Anonymous
why do you have opinions of a movie you've never seen? if anything, the movie drags on with how long they focus on him living amongst the fremen
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Paul suddenly being informed of owning Harrah and the kids (including her being very practical about it) is a great blunt introduction to the otherness of Fremen society.
But I guess you rather prefer them being offended at colonialism and such stuff the average modern viewer already consider bad.
the scenes with that b***h and zendaya were so horrifically bad
it was honestly like some shit out of a drama for high schoolers, super embarrrassing stuff
Yeah, the girl in that role has no name or star power. DUNC has a lot of money behind it and they want teenage girls to see it so they can make a return on investment
Who else would you cast that fulfils that requirement?
>Star power
Zendaya still didn't brought euphoria fans to theaters though, the audience is still middle age white guys, "reinventing" chani was for nothing. they should have cast the other chick as Chani
>Zendaya still didn't brought euphoria fans to theaters though
Maybe in your theatre, I heard a couple of teens talking about how it won a lot of oscars and how weird it was, so clearly it's grabbing some of them
>She had plenty screentime and took out nine harkonnen soldiers before dying, the frick are you on about moron? >Plenty
One line of dialogue in like 4 scenes, "took out nine harkonenn soldiers" off-screen, we don't even see her death and is never mentioned again by her "best friend" chani
moron
I liked the film, but Zendaya is way too thin and it is extremely problematic. It made me want to leave the theatre and then I saw other queens leaving so I got up >with support ofc, be careful ladies!
and left as well. When will Hollywood wake up and realize it's audience is filled with REAL people?!?!
The casting could have worked with better writing and direction, but I guess they felt they had to make her a fedora tipping atheist otherwise people would complain the movie was glorifying colonialism.
Obviously people are still calling the movie problematic anyway so that was pointless
I liked her more in the first film where she had shots like this. Why didn't she get to be pretty in Part 2? I dont think its Zendaya's fault for how bad she was in 2, Chani was just poorly written in it.
Paul was more convincing as a crazy dictator in his own visions and she was also by his side, not an annoying c**t. part 1 was way better overall, Villeneuve fricked up
Part 1 sucked, the changes and cuts did not work. I read the first half of the book before seeing 2 because I couldn’t sit through 1. And 2 meshes well with it aside from the baron reveal being saved for later in the movies. 2 was great, I actually want to see how he changes Messiah which has good ideas but needs reworking.
>"Dune doesn't have enough female characters so I had to turn a blond guy into a black woman" >doesn't even attempt to include the Fremen woman with the second-most dialogue and purpose in the story
Total Lynch Vindication
>this 2 hour piece of shit movie contains a le book reference that the superior DUNCino does not, therefore this piece of shit movie is better
this is your brain on soi/estrogen, lack of meaningful socialisation, and chronic masturbation
Removing Harah was weird she is chani best friend in the book and passes from Paul to Stilgar's wife, they could have had her instead of the fanfic girlboss from the movie. The whole wife/conbunine stuff was deleted, i guess because is not feminist?
>have magical power to force people to do whatever you say >only ever used it for anything useful one time
the last fight should have been feyd pulling out his big knife and doing a bunch of backflips just for paul to be like "kys"
Bad casts:
Timmy
Zendaya
Stellan Skarsgaard
Christopher Walken
I understand famous actors draws money to the box office, but I really hate how every character has to be played by famous people, no matter how badly they fit.
>Why was Stellan bad?
Because Dennis Vileneuf has that very rare talent to get terrible performances out of even the best actors. He's better at this than even George Lucas.
Yes, and you also said that an excentric and over-the-top violent character "sucks", and turning him into a shallow Bon villain parody was a good change. So frick off.
nah, i'll remain here and there's nothing you can do about it except fume
1 month ago
Anonymous
Keep shitposting then if that makes you happy.
1 month ago
Anonymous
i like talking about media i enjoy, dune is one of them. i thought the harkonnens in the book were pretty pathetic (not badly written) and i enjoyed seeing a more menacing version
thinking every post you disagree with is "shitposting" is literally cope
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>dune is one of them
As is DUNC, apparently.
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it was alright as a movie but definitely carried by the visual and sound effects in the cinema, i don't know how much i would've liked seeing it on a tv for example. lots of the story is butchered for no reason however
literally all i said was that i enjoyed the harkonnens being more intimidating and you're trying to desperately police me
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>literally all i said was that i enjoyed the harkonnens being more intimidating and you're trying to desperately police me
Because the Harkonnens aren't more intimidating. They're more neutered. Or as Villeneuve would like to pretend, more "mature".
timmy was great. austin would have been better but other than him who else would do a good job? every other zoomer homosexual is way too awful at acting to pull this off
>dipshit desert apes take in Paul and his mom. >btw we will kill you and drink your fluids if he isn't le chosen one >nooooo why are you trying to corrupt us with superstition you are so evil!!!!
Behead all Fremen tards.
It's been a few days. Has anyone finally managed to figure out why Villeneuve added in the line where Helen says that she manipulated the emperor into fricking over the Atreides, saying she specifically wants to end their bloodline?
This seems like a major plothole considering she specifically made Baron swear not to kill Jessica or Paul but it seems weird to think that Denis would purposely add a plothole to a story for no real reason.
>Has anyone finally managed to figure out why Villeneuve ...
Autism. The answer for why Villeneuve does anything is always "autism". Of the clinical kind. The low-functioning kind.
Can I get a ‘TND’ in the chat
I liked the film, but Zendaya was so bad in this. Both as an actress and the writing that butchered the character.
Frick you
what are you so upset about?
Zendaya isn't a bad actress.
I've seen her act anything but angry or wienery girlboss.
imo she does her job well enough to not stand out, but good? eh
She didn’t do good in this particular film at all. Might not be entirely her fault though.
She isn't a good one.
I'm sorry Zendaya, I didn't mean to offend you. Maybe I could have sex with you as a gesture of forgiveness?
i thought she did well and that it really was the writing that failed her in the second half of the movie, honestly the only thing i really disliked
Classic Zendaya
Sometimes I like to think that actors actually do post on Cinemaphile. I'd like to think their posts would read something like this.
Didn't think you of all people would come to Cinemaphile, Zendaya.
SPBP. villeneuve really fricked up the character by casting the ogro de las americas and botching the script
She and Bardem were the two worst parts of the movie. Stilgar was reduced to comic relief.
Stilgar was kino.
Stilgar was the worst revision. Pure Marvelized slop, that character was.
talk like a homosexual, you do
seething
that's quite literally you though. in an extremely homosexualy fashion
You mean "kino" like redditors use it, right?
Zendaya was better in this than in any other movie I've seen her in (mostly Spider-Man and Euphoria I guess), but she's still terrible. She's lucky she gets cast for successful series and I hope she doesn't think those franchises are successful because of her because I can't imagine that anyone actually likes this goblin.
>Zendaya was better in this than in any other movie I've seen her in
How? She was supposed to be part of an alien tribal culture and she was the ONLY one who sounded like modern day New York b***h, Every fremen put an effort except her.
>she was the ONLY one who sounded like modern day new york b***h
I wonder if she's responsible for this, or her handlers make that part of the contract since she has a big social media presence, and she needs to be "the Zendaya" in whatever role she takes
Didn't say she was good, but she's far worse in Euphoria.
I really do wonder why they decided to take away Paul's first wife (which he won when he killed Jamis) and make Chani and unlikable b***h for no fricking reason
Paul fell in love with her for a REASON
Would take too much time in an already fast-paced movie and she's not really an important character. Not least of all because Twitter would throw a fit if the white boi killed a Fremen and took his wife
>Paul fell in love with her for a REASON
Did he? In the book it seemed to come out of nowhere. Having them fight together was a good addition although they still don't have much reason to be together
>Did he? In the book it seemed to come out of nowhere
He dreamed with her and he barely had interaction with girls of his age also in the book she is kynes daughter so they bond over their parent death. They also see a vision of their son so they are "meant" be together. In the movie i see no reason why zendaya fell for him since she hates outsiders so much
Chani wasn't really an important character in this movie either. Can we cut her out?
this is going to be such a mess when hollyjews force villeneuve to adapt children of dune.
>Can we cut her out?
Pretty sure there'll be such a fanedit within the first week after the homerelease.
Thank God we skipped the boring character development in your boom boom bang bang capeshit, right zoomie?
I hate what he did with Chani, but I think Zendaya didn't help. I just saw it again and it's obvious sometimes that she is supposed to look at Paul with love and kindness, but she is so bad at acting that you only see anger in her eyes, kek.
Since he didn't want to do a proper timeskip, it kinda makes sense to change Chani, but in the end it's still a bad choice.
Their love isn't strong enough, not losing their child also remove a lot of weight to the story.
/tv/'s constant hate-boner for Zendaya will forever prevent anyone from taking your opinions seriously.
BENE CHUDDERIT!!
>ola you white gringo b***hola puta
A better Chani than Zendaya
Who is that?
chanis friend who got roasted by feyd
Does he take the wife of the guy he killed at the end of part one?
No, they ignore it completely
what do you mean ignore completely? they ignored his wife and child? yes, that was omitted bc who the frick cares, its already a 3 hour movie
they definitely didnt ignore janis or the aftermath of his death, as you are implying
Not enough time to fit Dune in our Dune movie
yeah paul turning jamis' wife into his servant was really integral to the plot of the book, and denis should only appeal to autistic morons by making a 10 hour movie of just talking.
>denis should only appeal to autistic morons by making a 10 hour movie of just talking
This but unironically
Shame. Everything with the aftermath of Jamis death serves as a great intro to Fremen society.
But such would not do in modern Hollywood where everywhere must be like an american suburb.
Can't have exposition or buildup in an action schl... "masterpiece".
why do you have opinions of a movie you've never seen? if anything, the movie drags on with how long they focus on him living amongst the fremen
Paul suddenly being informed of owning Harrah and the kids (including her being very practical about it) is a great blunt introduction to the otherness of Fremen society.
But I guess you rather prefer them being offended at colonialism and such stuff the average modern viewer already consider bad.
the scenes with that b***h and zendaya were so horrifically bad
it was honestly like some shit out of a drama for high schoolers, super embarrrassing stuff
Was this on purpose? An actual cute middle eastern actress who had more chemistry with Paul was not Chani but that ugly amerimutt zendaya instead?
Yeah, the girl in that role has no name or star power. DUNC has a lot of money behind it and they want teenage girls to see it so they can make a return on investment
Who else would you cast that fulfils that requirement?
>Star power
Zendaya still didn't brought euphoria fans to theaters though, the audience is still middle age white guys, "reinventing" chani was for nothing. they should have cast the other chick as Chani
>Zendaya still didn't brought euphoria fans to theaters though
Maybe in your theatre, I heard a couple of teens talking about how it won a lot of oscars and how weird it was, so clearly it's grabbing some of them
Casting mistakes were made
https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=shared&v=4Bh4YgzyrQg&t=7m10s
She's gorgeous.
Lmao Villeneuve's pointless fanfic just HAD to be forced into the posters. What a disaster of a slop.
This b***h had almost no screentime and dies like a b***h. Why is she even on the poster?
To tease the fans into thinking Harah would show up
To show that dunc has many STRONG WOMEN
She had plenty screentime and took out nine harkonnen soldiers before dying, the frick are you on about moron?
>She had plenty screentime and took out nine harkonnen soldiers before dying, the frick are you on about moron?
>Plenty
One line of dialogue in like 4 scenes, "took out nine harkonenn soldiers" off-screen, we don't even see her death and is never mentioned again by her "best friend" chani
moron
Kek the fact that Zendaya is so ugly she cant not compete with older women is fricking hilarious
God imagine old Zendaya
Lady Jessica was mogging every other actress other than Margot so fricking hard it could be considered a crime against humanity
She cute
>your daughter-in-law comes to visit and you remember you fricked her husband until morning be like
The bene gesserit are basically the israelites of the DUNC universe so I don't blame her
Lady Jessica could get my worm juice, if you know what I mean
she could get me to have sex wither WITHOUT using the voice, if you know what I mean
reverend mother? more like reverend milf am i right
I liked the film, but Zendaya is way too thin and it is extremely problematic. It made me want to leave the theatre and then I saw other queens leaving so I got up
>with support ofc, be careful ladies!
and left as well. When will Hollywood wake up and realize it's audience is filled with REAL people?!?!
Good, good, let the hate flow through you.
The casting could have worked with better writing and direction, but I guess they felt they had to make her a fedora tipping atheist otherwise people would complain the movie was glorifying colonialism.
Obviously people are still calling the movie problematic anyway so that was pointless
>Obviously people are still calling the movie problematic anyway so that was pointless
this is always the case, but Villehack is too dumb to know
I liked her more in the first film where she had shots like this. Why didn't she get to be pretty in Part 2? I dont think its Zendaya's fault for how bad she was in 2, Chani was just poorly written in it.
Paul was more convincing as a crazy dictator in his own visions and she was also by his side, not an annoying c**t. part 1 was way better overall, Villeneuve fricked up
Part 1 sucked, the changes and cuts did not work. I read the first half of the book before seeing 2 because I couldn’t sit through 1. And 2 meshes well with it aside from the baron reveal being saved for later in the movies. 2 was great, I actually want to see how he changes Messiah which has good ideas but needs reworking.
>2 was great
Thanks to Part 1 being great,and even with all the setup part 2 still felt stupidly rushed
>2024
>watching this crap
SILENCE
Lmao, this is exactly like that picture where the little black girl is staring with hatred at the white girl next to her.
Imagine Jessica being your mom
>I hate you, sexy white milf
A little on the nose don't you think?
>"Dune doesn't have enough female characters so I had to turn a blond guy into a black woman"
>doesn't even attempt to include the Fremen woman with the second-most dialogue and purpose in the story
Total Lynch Vindication
its not so much as lynch vindication as it is modern shittyness
Honestly anybody should feel ashamed if a 2 hour adaptation manages to include something you couldn't fit into your 5 hour adaptation
>this 2 hour piece of shit movie contains a le book reference that the superior DUNCino does not, therefore this piece of shit movie is better
this is your brain on soi/estrogen, lack of meaningful socialisation, and chronic masturbation
Removing Harah was weird she is chani best friend in the book and passes from Paul to Stilgar's wife, they could have had her instead of the fanfic girlboss from the movie. The whole wife/conbunine stuff was deleted, i guess because is not feminist?
just found out it’s zen-day-uh not zen-die-uh
Actually useful post? On MY Cinemaphile?
>cast non-white actors
>CGI their eyes blue
thanks israelitelywood
Name one actor with blue eyes and blue sclera.
If I were Paul I'd marry my mom instead of the cream of the crop Chani and Irulan. Ferguson mogs Zendaya and Pugh HARD in this.
What do the Bene Gesserit do and why does anybody in the galaxy care?
>thinking racial slurs
I thought she was cringe in the first movie but fantastic in this one tbh
>I thought she was cringe in the first movie
She had 3 lines and around 5 mins of screentime
That shows how cringe she was XD
Did she really say "I hate you .. "?
I didnt catch that part
YOU BENE GESSERIT MADE ME A FREAK
You guys are just a bunch of racists virgins, Zendaya is not only talented but beautiful too.
zendaya is posting in this thread
fricking confirmed
>have magical power to force people to do whatever you say
>only ever used it for anything useful one time
the last fight should have been feyd pulling out his big knife and doing a bunch of backflips just for paul to be like "kys"
Literally explained in the book
reading is GAY, if it's important then put it in the FRICKING MOVIE
>just for paul to be like "kys"
You've been watching too much Frieren, anon.
Bad casts:
Timmy
Zendaya
Stellan Skarsgaard
Christopher Walken
I understand famous actors draws money to the box office, but I really hate how every character has to be played by famous people, no matter how badly they fit.
stellan was good, just underutilized
>stellan was good
Not when he's being directed by Dennis Vileneuf.
>Denis' teenage movie dream
Why was Stellan bad? He's a good actor and he's just playing a fat evil dude
He IS a good actor, but I didn't buy him as Vladimir Harkonnen.
>Why was Stellan bad?
Because Dennis Vileneuf has that very rare talent to get terrible performances out of even the best actors. He's better at this than even George Lucas.
the harkonnens in the book honestly kinda suck, making them intimating was one of the few changes i liked
>the harkonnens in the book honestly kinda suck
Frick off, Villeneuve drone.
>reading comprehension
i said one of the *few*, the book is obviously ridiculously superior
Yes, and you also said that an excentric and over-the-top violent character "sucks", and turning him into a shallow Bon villain parody was a good change. So frick off.
nah, i'll remain here and there's nothing you can do about it except fume
Keep shitposting then if that makes you happy.
i like talking about media i enjoy, dune is one of them. i thought the harkonnens in the book were pretty pathetic (not badly written) and i enjoyed seeing a more menacing version
thinking every post you disagree with is "shitposting" is literally cope
>dune is one of them
As is DUNC, apparently.
it was alright as a movie but definitely carried by the visual and sound effects in the cinema, i don't know how much i would've liked seeing it on a tv for example. lots of the story is butchered for no reason however
literally all i said was that i enjoyed the harkonnens being more intimidating and you're trying to desperately police me
>literally all i said was that i enjoyed the harkonnens being more intimidating and you're trying to desperately police me
Because the Harkonnens aren't more intimidating. They're more neutered. Or as Villeneuve would like to pretend, more "mature".
cool, i disagree
Baron is one of the highlights of the book
timmy was great. austin would have been better but other than him who else would do a good job? every other zoomer homosexual is way too awful at acting to pull this off
wish they didn't skimp out on the eyes, they're not supposed to have any white in them
>they're not supposed to have any white in them
The horse is the white of the eyes, and dark within.
>dipshit desert apes take in Paul and his mom.
>btw we will kill you and drink your fluids if he isn't le chosen one
>nooooo why are you trying to corrupt us with superstition you are so evil!!!!
Behead all Fremen tards.
>Behead all Fremen tards
Only chani (movie) is an unbeliever c**t, the fremen are based jihadists
It's been a few days. Has anyone finally managed to figure out why Villeneuve added in the line where Helen says that she manipulated the emperor into fricking over the Atreides, saying she specifically wants to end their bloodline?
This seems like a major plothole considering she specifically made Baron swear not to kill Jessica or Paul but it seems weird to think that Denis would purposely add a plothole to a story for no real reason.
>Has anyone finally managed to figure out why Villeneuve ...
Autism. The answer for why Villeneuve does anything is always "autism". Of the clinical kind. The low-functioning kind.
This picture is how every woman in America is going to look like in twenty years.
So hot white milfs and ugly brown teens?
I don't blame Zendaya. Any actress would suck with that script and character. The role of Chani was butchered hard in this movie.
This chick pulled the girlboss desert woman better, she should have been chani
chani isn't a girlboss
lmao
what's funny
You know.
I mean in the movie she is a girlboss
In movies she's a whiny petulant irritating non-person
Book chani murdering people seeking to challenge Paul for leadership is great. Only the based syfy miniseries gave us that.
i agree but what does that have to do with being a girlboss?
Brutally mogged by mommy Becky
>Brutally mogged by mommy Becky
Everyone is.